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08/19/2026 Ask the Expert with Foster Foundation Repair · WCHS Network Podcasts

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Speaker 1: The views and opinions expressed on this program do not
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Speaker 1: necessarily reflect the views and opinions of five adwchs it's
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Speaker 1: employees or WVRC Media.
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Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes past eight o'clock, you're listening to ask
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Speaker 2: the expert w se HS the Voice of Charleston.
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Speaker 3: I'm Del Cooper.
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Speaker 4: Thanks for tuning in on this Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Wednesday morning.
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Speaker 4: Here in the year of twenty twenty six, welcoming back
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Speaker 4: into the studio, Brett Hashing is here. He is the
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Speaker 4: owner of Foster Foundation Repair. Brett, Good morning, how you
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Speaker 4: doing this morning?
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Speaker 5: Doing very well?
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 4: We appreciate you coming in and sharing your expertise this morning.
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Speaker 4: And frankly, I mean rough times in the area as
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Speaker 4: far as as water and things go, with the flooding
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Speaker 4: and the flash flooding right here in the Canall Valley
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Speaker 4: and in our area.
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Speaker 3: However, if people have questions about.
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Speaker 4: Those word of things right now, this is the time
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Speaker 4: where they can call into the radio station and get
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Speaker 4: those answered, because I know that you to be busy
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Speaker 4: with water related stuff.
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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I'm pretty much all the phone calls that
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Speaker 5: we're receiving right now or wet basements, wet crawl spaces.
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Speaker 5: You know, when it rains, heay, we get water in
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Speaker 5: and that's one of the primary things that that our
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Speaker 5: company does address. Now, obviously we can't do anything with flooding.
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Speaker 5: That's that's above and beyond what right we can handle,
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Speaker 5: but we certainly can help if if you if you
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Speaker 5: have been getting some water entry, if you've always had
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Speaker 5: a water problem, or you just periodically have it, or
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Speaker 5: just as a result of these last major storms, we
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Speaker 5: can we can certainly help you with maybe it's just diversion,
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Speaker 5: diverting the water away from the foundation, or full on
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Speaker 5: excavation and waterproofing, or or an interior water management system.
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Speaker 5: But there's there's a lot of different things that can do.
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Speaker 5: We always we always attempt to start at the source,
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Speaker 5: the gutters of the down spouts, the surface drainage essentially
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Speaker 5: creating drainage swales, or maybe installing French drains to try
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Speaker 5: to try to keep the water away from the foundation,
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Speaker 5: because not only is it obviously a nuisance to be
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Speaker 5: in the house, it can it can create the mold growth.
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Speaker 5: But probably of a bigger concern, at least from from
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Speaker 5: my standpoint, is what that water can do to to
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Speaker 5: the actual foundation.
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Speaker 6: Uh.
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Speaker 5: It essentially it creates a lot of pressure on the
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Speaker 5: on the walls. The hydrostatic pressure itself is very detrimental.
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Speaker 5: But also we have a lot of very expansive clay
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Speaker 5: soils in our region. So when when these when the
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Speaker 5: ground gets saturated, uh and and and in these clay
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Speaker 5: soils swell, that can exert a lot of lateral pressure
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Speaker 5: on a say, a basement foundation wall, which can cause
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Speaker 5: inward displacement and then necessitate some sort of stabilization. So
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Speaker 5: there's a lot of a lot of reasons why. I
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Speaker 5: mean a lot of what really what I tell people
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Speaker 5: a lot of times is we're either fixing a water
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Speaker 5: problem uh directly related to the water or some sort
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Speaker 5: of long term water related issue that we're fixing with
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Speaker 5: the foundation, whether it's lateral displacement or differentials differential settlement
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Speaker 5: that's typically related to a water issue as well.
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Speaker 4: Of course, we had the flooding that happened here in
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Speaker 4: the Canal Valley. There were more than fifty water rescue
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Speaker 4: calls log across Kanaal County. On the sixteenth loan from
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Speaker 4: Garrison Avenue to Cabin Creek, Campbell's Creek, Crosslanes, Tyler Mountain.
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Speaker 4: All of these places were hit hard. And of course
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Speaker 4: what you help folks with is with water to keep
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Speaker 4: water out of the areas and then to evaluate damage
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Speaker 4: and stuff that happens otherwise if folks are in a
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Speaker 4: because what we're dealing with right now is folks that
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Speaker 4: are still like in a clean up situation, and a
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Speaker 4: lot of situations like that and things.
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Speaker 3: Like that progressively.
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Speaker 4: What steps if somebody had some damage, they had water
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Speaker 4: that got into their basement, cross spaces, whatever it might be,
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Speaker 4: what should their steps be before they call you or
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Speaker 4: what could what should be cleared out before they expect
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Speaker 4: for you to come in and be able to help
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Speaker 4: them out.
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Speaker 5: So I mean, if they had a major flood that's
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Speaker 5: going to typically like a water rest ration company, would.
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Speaker 3: You have to get that cleaned up and everything first?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean get it mucked out. I unfortunately
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Speaker 5: have seen seen this.
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Speaker 3: Uh. I was heavily.
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Speaker 5: I did a lot of work down in the Clinton
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Speaker 5: and the Elk You area years ago when that that
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Speaker 5: flood occurred, when I was doing inspection, So I was
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Speaker 5: going in pretty soon after that and seeing what what
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Speaker 5: that looks like, which is shocking. I never never would
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Speaker 5: have believed it until I saw it, but yeah, I
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Speaker 5: mean essentially, if if you've gone through a major flood
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Speaker 5: like that, then you got to get it cleaned out,
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Speaker 5: get the get anything that's going to be potentially mold
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Speaker 5: growth UH growing out of there, and get it dried
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Speaker 5: out as quickly as possible with fans, dehumification, things of
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Speaker 5: that nature. You know, if it's just a regular you know,
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Speaker 5: I don't want to say it like an everyday water
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Speaker 5: entry problem where you just have a little bit of
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Speaker 5: sea pitch constantly, there's not much that that would need
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Speaker 5: to be done to prepare for us. Well we can.
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Speaker 5: We'll typically come in and do the demolition as long
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Speaker 5: as as long as there's no abestos containing material, will
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Speaker 5: handle all the demolition if there If there is which
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Speaker 5: which is something we will will engage up UH licensed
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Speaker 5: contractor come in and do asbestos testing for anything that
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Speaker 5: we're going to disturb. But as long as everything if
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Speaker 5: there is asbesis, obviously that company will will take care
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Speaker 5: of whatever they need to do. But essentially we'll handle
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Speaker 5: it from from start to finish. If there's HVAC equipment
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Speaker 5: or plumbing or anything that needs to be moved or relocated.
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Speaker 5: We'll engage an appropriate contractor.
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Speaker 3: To to assist us with.
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Speaker 5: With relocating that while the while the project's going on.
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Speaker 4: That makes a lot of sense. And of course folks
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Speaker 4: that are looking to sort of get ahead of the
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Speaker 4: game and to help these things out there and this
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Speaker 4: could this could affect you in many different ways. But
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Speaker 4: one of the things I was wondering about is kind
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Speaker 4: of going back to the beginning, if somebody had gone
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Speaker 4: through some of these damages and they're starting to go
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Speaker 4: and explore, is there any just as a homeowner as
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Speaker 4: it cautions to give folks, is there any like red
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Speaker 4: flags you would give people for like unsafe structures or
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Speaker 4: something like that if they start looking through cross spaces
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Speaker 4: or anything along those lines that. But what I'm worried
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Speaker 4: about is that people that you know, that water was
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Speaker 4: introduced maybe in places that there haven't been or the
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Speaker 4: pressure behind the water was so much that maybe people
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Speaker 4: are starting to uncover things that they were previously unaware of.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've very very rarely come across a quote
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Speaker 5: unsafe good like it's getting ready to collapse?
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Speaker 3: It does?
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Speaker 5: I mean, I have we've we see walls that collapse.
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Speaker 5: There's there's a house that was damaged by a broken
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Speaker 5: water line in South Charleston that I was was had
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Speaker 5: had stopped by and talked with the owner about and
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Speaker 5: literally the wall had fallen over the entire basement wall.
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Speaker 5: And I mean, that does happen, but it's pretty rare
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Speaker 5: and and I mean that's that safe standpoint. I'm glad
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Speaker 5: you brought that up because there is a lot of
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Speaker 5: I hear that from my clients that they've been told
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Speaker 5: by other companies that it's unsafe that the house is
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Speaker 5: going to fall down the hill. And I mean it's
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Speaker 5: very very rare that it ever gets to that point.
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Speaker 5: But it can't happen. I mean, typically it's going to
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Speaker 5: be a Boeing wall or a wall that's being displaced
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Speaker 5: laterally that will become unsafe, and that it takes a
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Speaker 5: lot I mean normally. So just kind of the way
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Speaker 5: we measure commonly, quickly measure a wall is with a
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Speaker 5: four foot level, will place that against the wall to
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Speaker 5: see how far out of plumb. So you put the
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Speaker 5: level against the wall, and you set your level to plumb,
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Speaker 5: and then you measure the gap between the level.
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Speaker 3: And the wall.
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Speaker 5: Typically around a half inch is the industry standard for
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Speaker 5: when repairs are recommended. Anything over an inch is getting
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Speaker 5: pretty significant. Two inches is very significant, and that's when
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Speaker 5: when you're going to start seeing some increased risk of
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Speaker 5: a failure.
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Speaker 4: Does does flooding events act then sort of like a
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Speaker 4: stress test for foundations and basements and things like that,
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Speaker 4: if you have problems that aren't necessarily surfacing yet, but
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Speaker 4: if it keeps getting repeatedly test and stressed, is that
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Speaker 4: going to speed?
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Speaker 3: How long? How far along those problems come?
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Speaker 4: I mean, having all this water that we've had recently,
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Speaker 4: if people have something that's right on the edge of
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Speaker 4: being an issue, could it now be an issue?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, certainly. As and it kind of goes back to
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Speaker 5: the expansive clay soil discussion. Once once that wall gets
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Speaker 5: displaced slightly because of the swelling of the soil as
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Speaker 5: it dries out, that the soil can consolidate further and
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Speaker 5: essentially move into the gap that was created by the
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Speaker 5: displaced wall. So it's kind of compounds on itself over time,
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Speaker 5: and typically the lateral displacement caused by water will typically
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Speaker 5: the pace will it will increase with time, so it
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Speaker 5: starts to move a little bit faster. It's a very
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Speaker 5: slow movement. I mean I've heard I don't know how
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Speaker 5: many times it's been like that for forty years. I mean,
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Speaker 5: unless you were actually physically measuring cracks and things. It's
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Speaker 5: hard to say because it grows so the cracks grow
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Speaker 5: so slowly, but yeah, it is. It is a progressive
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Speaker 5: thing with the lateral displacement and water.
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Speaker 4: And then obviously if folks are seeing you know, if
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Speaker 4: you do the visual inspection of your property and you
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Speaker 4: notice little cracks or something that you've had for a while,
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Speaker 4: if you notice these things that maybe have gotten bigger,
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Speaker 4: you've introduced new ones in the last few weeks, or
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Speaker 4: something along those lines, that might be an indicator that
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Speaker 4: something's going on as well, if there's a sudden change
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Speaker 4: to those things.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So one of one of the things I look for
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Speaker 5: when assessing a foundation is it is if a crack
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Speaker 5: has been patched and then it's re separated. That that's something.
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Speaker 5: You know, anytime we do an inspection of a property,
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Speaker 5: there's no way to predict how fast it's moving if
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Speaker 5: it's still actively moving, but that's an indicator that it's
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Speaker 5: that it is a progressive concern, and that's that's one
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Speaker 5: of the main things that I'm looking for when I'm
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Speaker 5: going to recommend to repair, is evidence of a progressive movement.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 5: That's probably more so with differential settlement, because a foundation
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Speaker 5: can settle and then stabilize and then essentially never move again.
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Speaker 5: It could have been an initial poor compaction of the structure.
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Speaker 5: Condition with lateral displacement, that lateral pressure is always there.
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Speaker 5: If it's a basement, you've always got the soil pressure,
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Speaker 5: so that we would might be more inclined to recommend
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Speaker 5: a repair for lateral displacement than maybe differential settlement without
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Speaker 5: the evidence of the progressive movement.
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Speaker 4: Great information this morning, and relevant information for you as well.
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Speaker 4: If you have any questions about some issues that you
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Speaker 4: may have had recently with some problems with water intrusion
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Speaker 4: and things like that, after these recent flooding events, and
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Speaker 4: you have some issues with your basement or foundation, or
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Speaker 4: have some questions about that, you can give us a
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Speaker 4: call or send us a text this morning. The phone
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Speaker 4: get a hold of us in either one of those
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Speaker 4: ways if you have any questions for Brad Hashton from
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Speaker 4: Foster Foundation Repair and he can answer your questions about
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Speaker 4: any of the these issues that have come up recently.
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Speaker 4: What does it mean when waters receded or you're taking
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Speaker 4: a look around your basement and you see like white
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Speaker 4: mineral deposits on your wall, like you can kind of
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Speaker 4: flake off.
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Speaker 5: So that is known as efflorescence. And what that is
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Speaker 5: from is as the water seeps through the CMU or
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Speaker 5: the concrete masonry at your foundation, or it could be stone,
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Speaker 5: it could be concrete, whatever whatever your foundation is made of.
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Speaker 5: As the water is seeping through that material, it's picking
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Speaker 5: up salts and minerals. Once it gets to the interior
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Speaker 5: surface of the foundation, the water evaporates and the mineral
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Speaker 5: deposits are left behind, so that is evidence of water.
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Speaker 5: It'll show up as you mentioned, white flaky material. Sometimes
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Speaker 5: if the wall has been painted, that material will end
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Speaker 5: up building up behind the paint. And you'll kind of
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Speaker 5: get a bubbly, crackly sound in the paint if you
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Speaker 5: were to touch the wall. But that's that is a
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Speaker 5: common sign of minor water seepage.
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Speaker 4: So I think that we I think we sort of
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Speaker 4: addressed this. But we did get a text message over
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Speaker 4: from the three zero four six ninety. We got a
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Speaker 4: lot in our basement Sunday night for the first time
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Speaker 4: in twenty two years. About four inches dried out. But
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Speaker 4: I'm now noticing cracks that I didn't notice before. I
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Speaker 4: don't know if it was oversight on my partner, if
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Speaker 4: these are actually new, could that be normal after this
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Speaker 4: kind of water.
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Speaker 5: So I will say it's very common to notice cracks
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Speaker 5: after an event that may have always been there. Maybe
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Speaker 5: they weren't cracks. Cracks typically, if they are fresh, we'll
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Speaker 5: have very sharp edges. Cracks that have been around for
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Speaker 5: many many years will typically be more rounded they've been weathered.
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Speaker 5: But typically if it's a fresh crack, you'll still have
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Speaker 5: a little bit of debris from the actual when it fractured.
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Speaker 5: There will still typically be a little bit of fragmentation.
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Speaker 5: If it's in the area where the flood occurred, I'm
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Speaker 5: sure there was, there's going to be a lot of debris,
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Speaker 5: so it'd be hard to kind of you know, the
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Speaker 5: debris probably mixed in with the mud and everything else,
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Speaker 5: so that might be hard too hard to discern, but certainly,
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Speaker 5: you know, if a good example is you've built your
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Speaker 5: house twenty two years ago, the dirt immediately below your
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Speaker 5: basement floor slab hopefully has been dry for twenty two years,
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Speaker 5: it just got wet. If it's expansive, it would have swollen,
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Speaker 5: so that certainly could have caused some some heave on
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Speaker 5: the basement floor slab. Fortunately, most basement floor slabs if
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Speaker 5: the crackings in the floor slab, most basement floor slabs are.
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Speaker 5: They're important from the grand the structure, but they're typically
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Speaker 5: what is called a floating slab and they're not a
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Speaker 5: primary structural component.
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Speaker 4: Great information as always with bred Hodgmen from Foster Foundation Repair.
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Speaker 4: You can give us a call if you'd like. Three
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Speaker 4: zero four three four five fifteen to fifty eight is
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Speaker 4: our number. Three zer a four three four five fifty
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Speaker 4: none three five five zero zero eight one other text
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Speaker 4: message here and then we'll take a break and come
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Speaker 4: back and address more of your questions if you have
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Speaker 4: any your phone calls, and much more information from bred Houston.
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Speaker 4: This is from the three zero four, five eight six
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Speaker 4: where in Cabin Creek had about two feet of water
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Speaker 4: in the cross space for multiple days. The water's gone
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Speaker 4: and it smells terrible. What do we do now that
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Speaker 4: this is a mitigation thing, So that's more mitigation area.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, just from a practical standpoint, you got
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Speaker 5: to get it dried out. If if all the water's gone,
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Speaker 5: you need to get fans moving, dehumidifiers, get air movement
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Speaker 5: underneath there. That's that's what I mean, that's really all
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Speaker 5: you're going to have. All you can do. Probably need
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Speaker 5: to pull the plastic to let the fans get to
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Speaker 5: the soil and get it as dried out as you can.
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Speaker 5: And then and then once that's done, assuming that you
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Speaker 5: don't have any other issues like mold that has developed,
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Speaker 5: get some plastic back in there. If it's a typical
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Speaker 5: vented cross space, consider I would I would consider installing
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Speaker 5: what is called crawl space encapsulation system, which is a
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Speaker 5: very nice way to keep your crawl space dry I
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Speaker 5: mean dry from a water vapor standpoint, it's not gonna
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Speaker 5: you know, if it floods that we're not we can't
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Speaker 5: stop that. But right now, you just got to get
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Speaker 5: a dried out, get fans moving to get the and
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Speaker 5: try to run a dehumidifire.
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Speaker 4: You know, this will come as no surprise to folks
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Speaker 4: that live here and have dealt with water issues in
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Speaker 4: our area in the Canal Valley for a long time.
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Speaker 4: But in some of the research I was going into,
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Speaker 4: I was getting into some of the wonky scientific literature
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Speaker 4: about water and areas and different things like that. But
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Speaker 4: the Kanal Valley's actually had and this is a little
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Speaker 4: technical for me, but if I understand this correctly, Kanal
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Speaker 4: Valley's actually had thirteen and this is a recorded history
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Speaker 4: where they've been able to do flood events and stuff.
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Speaker 4: But these the one percent threshold for like one hundred
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Speaker 4: year floods or whatever. I guess, the Charleston area Kanal
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Speaker 4: Valley's had thirteen of those in recorded time, much much
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Speaker 4: less than one hundred years. So they've had thirteen hundred
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Speaker 4: year floods over the core of several decades instead of
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Speaker 4: it only happening once every hundred years. But it doesn't
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Speaker 4: mean anything specifically, that's not actually all that unusual. It's
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Speaker 4: just a threshold that's been that's been exceeded. But what
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Speaker 4: it does mean is, just like what you're talking about,
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of those issues in this area because
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Speaker 4: we've we've seen this a lot.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well there's there's a lot goes into the floods.
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Speaker 5: We've certainly had a lot of rain. I think we
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Speaker 5: this is a kind of a government conversation, but I
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Speaker 5: feel like we don't do a very good job, especially
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Speaker 5: in this area with new construction and water managing our water.
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Speaker 5: What I think we have in part is a time
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Speaker 5: what it is called a time of concentration problem. We
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Speaker 5: we didn't make all these developments, and it increases the
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Speaker 5: pace in which water gets to a certain point and
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Speaker 5: it just you know, the streams and creaks can no
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Speaker 5: longer handle it. So a lot of areas I see
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Speaker 5: a lot in Putnam County, I see a lot of
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Speaker 5: storm water retain chimpons with new construction. I don't see
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Speaker 5: nearly that. You know, I'm not ever research this, but
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Speaker 5: I certainly don't see the number of those in Kanaal counties.
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Speaker 5: I do in Putnam County, Putnam Counties. It seems to
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Speaker 5: be very and has been for quite some time, very
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Speaker 5: strict about stormwater management.
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Speaker 3: Great information from Brett Hashton. Let's do this. Let's take
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Speaker 3: our break. When we come back.
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Speaker 4: We still have plenty of stuff that we won't get into,
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Speaker 4: including any questions that you have for Brett that has
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Speaker 4: to do with your foundation about water penetration, about quote
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Speaker 4: unquote waterproofing. We might get into that a little bit
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Speaker 4: when we come back, and on exactly what that means
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Speaker 4: for your basement, any questions you have along those lines
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Speaker 4: for Brett Brett Haschton from Foster Foundation Repair. He gives
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Speaker 4: a call this morning three zero four three four five
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Speaker 4: fifty to fifty eight, or you can text three zero
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Speaker 4: four nine three five five zero zero eight. We'll take
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Speaker 4: a break and be back right after this. You're listening
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Speaker 4: to ask the expert. I'm Del Cooper and that's Brett
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Speaker 4: Hoschton for Foster Foundation Repair on five eight WWCHS The
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Speaker 4: You're listening to the Voice of Charleston five ADWCHS. I'm
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Speaker 4: Del Cooper, thanks for tuning in on this Wednesday morning,
19:08
Speaker 4: and studio with me this morning is Brett hash and
19:10
Speaker 4: he's the owner of Foster Foundation Repair. What a great
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Speaker 4: time to have Bread and Studio because I know there's
19:14
Speaker 4: tons of questions that we have out there for things
19:16
Speaker 4: that may be happening with our foundations, our basements, with
19:19
Speaker 4: waterproofing and things along those lines, and I want to
19:21
Speaker 4: get into that a little bit this segment. If you
19:22
Speaker 4: have any questions about this, this is a great time
19:24
Speaker 4: to get in because we're going to talk a little
19:26
Speaker 4: bit about the services that Foster offers, how they can
19:28
Speaker 4: help folks with water related issues. And I'll have Brett
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Speaker 4: once again, we talk about this at least probably every
19:33
Speaker 4: other show, but exactly what quote unquote waterproofing means and
19:37
Speaker 4: why that phrase may not be quite quite what you
19:39
Speaker 4: think it is. But we'll go through the things that
19:42
Speaker 4: Foster can do and also answer your questions for any
19:44
Speaker 4: problems that you might have in your area. So you
19:46
Speaker 4: can give us a call three zero four three four
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Speaker 4: five fifty eight fifty eight. You can text three zero
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Speaker 4: four non through five five zero zero eight three zero
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Speaker 4: four non three five five zero zero eight. So let's
19:55
Speaker 4: talk about some of the stuff that Foster can help
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Speaker 4: with these things. First of all, when people think about waterproofing,
20:01
Speaker 4: whether you see it on you know the add on
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Speaker 4: on online or you see something about it. There should
20:06
Speaker 4: be some realistic expectations of what it means to have
20:09
Speaker 4: water management or water proofing in your basement.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So, so the the end of the foundation repair industry
20:15
Speaker 5: has has muddied the water on waterproofing quite a bit.
20:19
Speaker 5: And the pretty much there everybody is is being pushed
20:23
Speaker 5: that they're going to be they're going to waterproof your basement.
20:27
Speaker 5: There is a there is a definition in the Residential
20:31
Speaker 5: codebook that defines what waterproofing is. And well, I don't
20:34
Speaker 5: want to say it's a definition. It gives you different
20:36
Speaker 5: options on how to create a quote waterproofed foundation and
20:41
Speaker 5: that that is done from the exterior that is as
20:44
Speaker 5: as basically with certain components applied to the to the
20:48
Speaker 5: actual foundation wall that will, as as defined, will waterproof
20:54
Speaker 5: the foundation. It's not waterproof in the sense like a
20:56
Speaker 5: swimming pool line or where if water builds up it's
20:59
Speaker 5: going to one hundred percent and hold water out. So
21:01
Speaker 5: a good quality waterproofing system on the exterior, at least
21:05
Speaker 5: the way we install it is with a self adherin
21:08
Speaker 5: rubber membrane it applied to the exterior wall and then
21:11
Speaker 5: a vertical drainage plane that consists of a plastic nippled
21:16
Speaker 5: plastic membrane with a filter cloth on it that goes
21:19
Speaker 5: up against the rubber membrane. So that does two things.
21:23
Speaker 5: It creates a vertical plane for water to travel down
21:25
Speaker 5: the wall to where it can then get to a
21:27
Speaker 5: drainage system. But it also that that uh, that drainage
21:32
Speaker 5: board also acts as a protector for the rubber membrane.
21:36
Speaker 5: But a good waterproofing, a proper waterproofing system is installed
21:40
Speaker 5: in conjunction with a proper foundation drainage system, which consists
21:43
Speaker 5: of a perforated pipe and previous gravel that's backfilled up
21:49
Speaker 5: against the foundation. So any water that gets near the
21:51
Speaker 5: foundation easily drains down to the pipe and then it
21:55
Speaker 5: has a gravity. Typically in every case where we can,
21:59
Speaker 5: we'll drain it via gravity to to daylight. Some rare
22:02
Speaker 5: cases we have to install an external sump pump, which
22:06
Speaker 5: is not ideal, but sometimes we just don't have any
22:09
Speaker 5: any other way to get the water away. I mean
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Speaker 5: that's so that's that's that's a true water proofing system.
22:16
Speaker 5: And what what our industry is kind of pushing as
22:20
Speaker 5: as what is water proofing is typically an interior water
22:24
Speaker 5: management system, and and this is what most companies in
22:29
Speaker 5: our area are going to offer in the event that
22:32
Speaker 5: you have a water concern that you're trying to address.
22:35
Speaker 5: And the reason is is it's it's it's less expensive.
22:38
Speaker 5: The interier water management system is less expensive. Uh, it's
22:41
Speaker 5: less technical, so you don't need the it's you don't
22:47
Speaker 5: need the skilled equipment operators and equipment, you know, things
22:52
Speaker 5: of that nature. So it's it's it's a lot easier
22:54
Speaker 5: to install. But this is what a lot of companies
22:56
Speaker 5: are going to push is the interior water management system.
22:59
Speaker 5: So essentially, once the water gets into the building, it
23:01
Speaker 5: is collected uh in some sort of piping system and
23:04
Speaker 5: then in most cases conveyed over to a sump pump
23:07
Speaker 5: and then pumped back out. And and again that's what
23:12
Speaker 5: most most are going to push to to you as
23:14
Speaker 5: a client if you're if you're looking to address this
23:17
Speaker 5: water as a waterproofing system, and it will keep your
23:20
Speaker 5: basement dry well, you will, if installed correctly, you'll be
23:23
Speaker 5: able to put dry wall up up against the walls.
23:26
Speaker 5: If they put an impervious membrane on the wall, you
23:29
Speaker 5: would be able to to finish out the basement again.
23:33
Speaker 5: But it is, it is a water management system, and
23:35
Speaker 5: we we do install these systems too. They're they're functional,
23:38
Speaker 5: they're they're they serve the purpose, but you definitely need
23:41
Speaker 5: to make sure there's not other uh, you know, other
23:44
Speaker 5: concerns related to the water, like a bowing wall or
23:47
Speaker 5: something before these things are installed. But the way these
23:50
Speaker 5: the way these are installed is there's a couple of
23:53
Speaker 5: different ways. Most people in the industry are going to
23:55
Speaker 5: install what I call it top a foot or drain UH.
23:58
Speaker 5: And essentially what they do is they cut out about
24:00
Speaker 5: four inches of concrete of your basement floor concrete and
24:04
Speaker 5: put in a rectangular shaped drain that sits on top
24:09
Speaker 5: of the footing, and then they put about an inch
24:11
Speaker 5: of concrete back in on top of that. The primary
24:16
Speaker 5: benefit to that, in my opinion, is it's a very
24:20
Speaker 5: quick UH and it's a cheaper version of an interior
24:24
Speaker 5: draining system. That's to me, those are the only two benefits.
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Speaker 5: The biggest concerns I have with that type of drain
24:30
Speaker 5: system is the basement floor slab. And this kind of
24:32
Speaker 5: goes back to where it's we discussed earlier. The floor
24:35
Speaker 5: slab is not a primary structural structural component, but it
24:38
Speaker 5: does have very important conditions that it needs to serve
24:41
Speaker 5: and this is one of them. That floor slab is
24:44
Speaker 5: acting as a pin for the bottom of the retaining
24:46
Speaker 5: wall or bottom of your basement foundation wall. So when
24:50
Speaker 5: this top of foot of drain is installed, you're effectively
24:54
Speaker 5: removing that pen. So now you've created a risk of
24:57
Speaker 5: a lateral displacement of the bottom of the wall. So
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Speaker 5: if there was not a foundation issue at the time
25:05
Speaker 5: of installation, this type of top of foot or drain
25:08
Speaker 5: can create the potential for one to develop that was
25:11
Speaker 5: not present previously. Uh So for that reason, we don't
25:14
Speaker 5: we our company does not install the top of foot
25:16
Speaker 5: or drains Westall. We install an interior foundation drain in
25:20
Speaker 5: a little bit different manner. It is it is more
25:22
Speaker 5: labor intensive, and it does it is more expensive than
25:26
Speaker 5: that top of foot or drain, but it also puts
25:31
Speaker 5: the floor basically puts the foundation back as it was
25:34
Speaker 5: originally intended and constructed. And the way we do it
25:37
Speaker 5: is we will actually remove a little bit more concrete
25:39
Speaker 5: and put a perforated pipe below the floor slab next
25:42
Speaker 5: to the toe of the footing. So the water is
25:46
Speaker 5: being collected at a lower elevation, which is a pro
25:51
Speaker 5: positive and also uh down and away from from the
25:56
Speaker 5: floor slab.
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Speaker 4: The way my basement works, it's some and this was
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Speaker 4: done I don't know how long ago, probably forty years
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Speaker 4: ago when when the basement was redone at my house.
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Speaker 4: My family had some history with this house, so I
26:08
Speaker 4: remember a little.
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Speaker 3: Bit about it.
26:10
Speaker 4: But it's there's a there's there's a drain in the
26:13
Speaker 4: in the basically the center of the U of the basement,
26:17
Speaker 4: and then there is like grade that goes to that drain,
26:20
Speaker 4: and I have a sump pump that's in there. And
26:21
Speaker 4: it's interesting when it when it does rain or there's
26:23
Speaker 4: some water, I can stand in my basement and I
26:24
Speaker 4: can hear the water coming from all around the house
26:26
Speaker 4: through the various collection points, and then it's being sent
26:29
Speaker 4: to the sump pump. And frankly, however old that thing
26:32
Speaker 4: is and whatever else it happens, it as long as
26:34
Speaker 4: the sump is working, my basement stays really good. I mean,
26:37
Speaker 4: it doesn't get I mean, if there is any any
26:39
Speaker 4: moisture that gets in there, that it does its job.
26:41
Speaker 3: But I don't have any active leaks or anything. It
26:43
Speaker 3: has done its job for years.
26:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's and that's a typical older home. I mean,
26:48
Speaker 5: these houses on the east end of Charleston, there was
26:51
Speaker 5: nowhere to take the water. They didn't we didn't have
26:53
Speaker 5: we didn't have grade to drain the water. You know,
26:57
Speaker 5: early nineteen hundreds, there weren't some pumps. I mean, some
27:00
Speaker 5: of these houses didn't have electricity. So a wet basement
27:03
Speaker 5: in certain properties is sort of to be expected unless
27:08
Speaker 5: and that's why the floor is. You know a lot
27:10
Speaker 5: of these older homes that the basement floor is actually
27:12
Speaker 5: sloped two floor drains or somes or whatever it may be.
27:16
Speaker 5: And we knew water was going to come in when
27:18
Speaker 5: they built it, and they planned for it, and you
27:21
Speaker 5: took steps to protect your storage. You kept it off
27:24
Speaker 5: the ground or what it might be. But yeah, that's
27:27
Speaker 5: very common. And a lot of these basements, if you know,
27:30
Speaker 5: somebody wanted to convert them to a dry, a dryer space,
27:33
Speaker 5: you could do the extra your waterproofing or you can
27:35
Speaker 5: do an into your foundation drain. Either one. Either one
27:38
Speaker 5: would work. So it's not like just because they once
27:43
Speaker 5: once we're wet, they can't be made dry.
27:45
Speaker 4: Now let's I think we have a phone call. This
27:47
Speaker 4: come in on the line collar. You've come in under
27:49
Speaker 4: an autocue. So what's your first name? Fine, hey Frank,
27:53
Speaker 4: you're on line with bread here.
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Speaker 3: What's your question?
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Speaker 8: Okay? My house was built in nineteen sixty six, and.
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Speaker 9: Well, of course we had all that rain fo near
28:03
Speaker 9: thing like that, and I went, I didn't think I'd
28:05
Speaker 9: have any problem. So I go down to my basement
28:07
Speaker 9: and the shower I have down there, all the water
28:11
Speaker 9: come up out of there when all over the floor
28:13
Speaker 9: runned all my rugs, and I'm thinking it is don't
28:16
Speaker 9: the shower up to.
28:19
Speaker 8: Piping go into a sewer system? Why put that back
28:22
Speaker 8: up into my shower.
28:23
Speaker 5: So, depending on where your home is located, there are
28:26
Speaker 5: a lot of areas that have a combined storm and
28:30
Speaker 5: sanitary system, so when the system gets overwhelmed with storm water,
28:36
Speaker 5: it can back up through sewer lines.
28:40
Speaker 1: Uh.
28:40
Speaker 5: This is common in Kanall City a lot of if
28:43
Speaker 5: you if you are in a property that has a
28:46
Speaker 5: combined system, would be a good idea to install a
28:49
Speaker 5: check valve or a one way valve on on the
28:51
Speaker 5: main line. And essentially what that's going to do is
28:54
Speaker 5: it's going to prevent that water from backing up. That's
28:57
Speaker 5: nothing that that would be a call to a plumber.
28:59
Speaker 5: But that step one would be to confirm if you
29:02
Speaker 5: have a combined storm and sanitary drain system with a plumber,
29:08
Speaker 5: and if so, have them install at check valve.
29:11
Speaker 8: Because I know my down spouts coming off my roof
29:14
Speaker 8: goes underground and shoots out the ground into the river,
29:18
Speaker 8: which is you know, that's good clean water, nothing wrong
29:20
Speaker 8: with that, and I'm wondering made me wonder, well, wonder
29:22
Speaker 8: where my or my shower water.
29:25
Speaker 3: Is going to.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that commode didn't back up or blow up or anything,
29:30
Speaker 8: just a shower.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's well showers probably at the low point drain,
29:35
Speaker 5: so that would it is Yeah, that would make a
29:37
Speaker 5: little bit of sense. But with your your downspouts going
29:39
Speaker 5: over the hill to the river, you're probably not on
29:41
Speaker 5: a combined system, or at least your your house was
29:44
Speaker 5: taken out of that scenario. But if it's still a
29:48
Speaker 5: if the entire system is combined, then that could be
29:53
Speaker 5: the issue. There's also I mean, there's also a lot
29:55
Speaker 5: of basically sewer lines. There's a lot of groundwater that
30:00
Speaker 5: enters a sewer system and that can contribute to some
30:03
Speaker 5: extent as well, But I'd have a plumber take a
30:06
Speaker 5: look at it. It sounds like, I mean, there could
30:08
Speaker 5: be a clog. There's various things that it could be,
30:10
Speaker 5: but if it was from during the flood event, a
30:12
Speaker 5: flood event, it's it's probably something got overwhelmed in a
30:16
Speaker 5: check valve. Yeah, might solve your problem.
30:19
Speaker 8: Yeah, there everything got overwhelmed.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, thanks a lot, Yes, sir, appreciate the phone call, Frank,
30:24
Speaker 4: thanks a botch for that. Appreciate that leaves a fune
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Speaker 4: line open for you if you want to go to
30:28
Speaker 4: call this morning three zero four three four five fifty
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Speaker 4: fifty eight three zero four, three four five fifty eight
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Speaker 4: fifty eight if you want to get in and ask
30:33
Speaker 4: Brett questions. A lot of this is poking around the issues.
30:37
Speaker 4: You know, that wasn't directly something that that Foster could
30:40
Speaker 4: help with on the on the front end, but if
30:42
Speaker 4: there was ended up being a water problems or damage
30:45
Speaker 4: or something along those lines that needed to be repaired
30:47
Speaker 4: on the on the back end of things, and that's
30:48
Speaker 4: certainly something there. But getting your experience and getting some
30:53
Speaker 4: idea on what might be the problem is partially what
30:55
Speaker 4: we're here for. He gives a call three zero four,
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Speaker 4: three four five fifty eight fifty eight. Right before Frank called,
31:00
Speaker 4: We've got a text message in from the three zero
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Speaker 4: four to three eight nine that was right in the
31:03
Speaker 4: middle of what we were talking about.
31:04
Speaker 3: And I don't I have no idea.
31:06
Speaker 4: Is there any situation where flooding actually help helps you
31:09
Speaker 4: make the case for waterproofing to your insurance company or
31:12
Speaker 4: as foundation repair basically never covered.
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Speaker 5: I we don't. Typically we're typically not involved in insurance claims.
31:20
Speaker 5: Insurance claims are typically a one time event and normally
31:26
Speaker 5: a foundation Now I mean, obviously if a water main
31:29
Speaker 5: breaks and it blows that house that had the foundation
31:31
Speaker 5: get blown in by a waterman, that there's going to
31:33
Speaker 5: be an insurance situation there. But insurance is typically a
31:37
Speaker 5: one time event, a windstorm, a hailstorm, something of that nature.
31:42
Speaker 5: Foundation repair is typically something that or foundation issues are
31:46
Speaker 5: typically something that has developed over a long period of time,
31:49
Speaker 5: and a lot of people have made insurance claims regarding
31:54
Speaker 5: foundation repair, and typically what happens in that scenario is
31:58
Speaker 5: the insurance of company will send out it professional engineer
32:01
Speaker 5: and they will determine the cause of the cause of
32:04
Speaker 5: the foundation movement, and it typically comes back to either
32:07
Speaker 5: improper original construction or improper maintenance. And that's so it's
32:11
Speaker 5: typically not covered.
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Speaker 4: Wrapping up the show, here is just about five minutes left.
32:15
Speaker 4: If you want to get in, you can still get
32:16
Speaker 4: in on the phone call three zer A four three
32:18
Speaker 4: four five fifty to fifty eight. You can text threes
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Speaker 4: er A four nine three five fives zers or eight
32:21
Speaker 4: from the threes or four nine to five to one.
32:23
Speaker 4: We've flooded three times in the last eight year, same
32:25
Speaker 4: corner every time. At what point is that a drainage
32:27
Speaker 4: problem versus a foundation problem? And can fixing one actually
32:30
Speaker 4: fix the other?
32:32
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't necessarily say it's a foundation problems, it's
32:37
Speaker 5: some sort of water related issue. Step one is we
32:41
Speaker 5: would look at surface drainage, the ground, the way the
32:44
Speaker 5: ground is contoured. Step two is to start looking at
32:47
Speaker 5: the stormwater drains that are below ground with a camera,
32:50
Speaker 5: make sure there's not a failure or a clog. Unfortunately,
32:56
Speaker 5: when homes are built, the storm water drains are seen
33:00
Speaker 5: to be the the least important thing on the contractor's mind.
33:04
Speaker 5: They're typically haphazardly thrown in uh they're installed in. You know,
33:10
Speaker 5: when a house is built, you've got a big hole
33:11
Speaker 5: or a pit around the house, they backfill it and
33:14
Speaker 5: they put these these stormwater drains in that same dirt,
33:17
Speaker 5: and over time that dirt will consolidate or settle, and
33:20
Speaker 5: that that causes the pipes to move down UH and
33:23
Speaker 5: it can cause them to disconnect, it can cause them
33:25
Speaker 5: to get bellies or break. So Unfortunately, stormwater drains from
33:30
Speaker 5: original construction are typically not done in a very in
33:35
Speaker 5: the best, in the best manner. So I would start
33:38
Speaker 5: I would start with the drains UH. After that then
33:41
Speaker 5: we could start looking at the xier waterproofing UH or
33:46
Speaker 5: intier water management. It would just depend on the scenario.
33:49
Speaker 5: And that's a discussion that I'll have with every client.
33:51
Speaker 5: You know, there's there's two ways to address it outside
33:53
Speaker 5: or inside.
33:55
Speaker 3: If you build it.
33:55
Speaker 5: You know, if you go get a set of architectural
33:57
Speaker 5: plans for a new construction, you're all aways going to
34:00
Speaker 5: see an exterier foundation drain xterior waterproofing system. That is
34:04
Speaker 5: the most appropriate way to always address water infiltration. It
34:09
Speaker 5: is collecting water at the source and diverting water at
34:12
Speaker 5: ground level and through proper storm water management. You're diverting
34:16
Speaker 5: the water away from the foundation, So that is always
34:18
Speaker 5: the most appropriate, it's not always the most cost effective
34:21
Speaker 5: or feasible because of decks and air conditioners and porches
34:26
Speaker 5: and that, you know, things, you know, things that are
34:28
Speaker 5: around your house. Sometimes we just can't do it at
34:32
Speaker 5: a reasonable cost, so we start talking about the interior
34:36
Speaker 5: foundation drain, and sometimes it's just a budget decision that
34:39
Speaker 5: the budget does not allow, you know, I would say
34:43
Speaker 5: the exterior option is typically about double the cost of
34:46
Speaker 5: the interior option. So a lot of people do to
34:49
Speaker 5: elect to go with the interior foundation drain for that
34:52
Speaker 5: reason alone. And we have these If I'm out at
34:55
Speaker 5: your house, I'm gonna have all these conversations directly with you,
34:58
Speaker 5: the pros and cons of each one and why your
35:01
Speaker 5: specific situation would one maybe better than the other, or
35:06
Speaker 5: at least give you, give you the information that you
35:08
Speaker 5: can make the educated decision on what you're what would
35:11
Speaker 5: be best for you.
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Speaker 4: Foster Foundation of pair threes er four seven seven six
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Speaker 4: sixty two sixty three seven seven six sixty two sixty three.
35:17
Speaker 4: And what Bret's talking about there and what makes that
35:19
Speaker 4: so important in context of the conversation that we're having
35:22
Speaker 4: and usually we talk about this a little bit more.
35:24
Speaker 4: But you're also a professional engineer, so this gives you
35:28
Speaker 4: it helps with with the evaluation of these properties. You
35:31
Speaker 4: try to make sure that you give as as an
35:34
Speaker 4: objective as an assessment as possible, and the options that
35:37
Speaker 4: you give are all going to be solvent issues. It's
35:39
Speaker 4: just you give them the spectrum of what level of
35:42
Speaker 4: work they need to have done.
35:43
Speaker 5: Correct and I am I am the I am our
35:46
Speaker 5: loan estimator. We've got Zach he's going to start learning
35:49
Speaker 5: a little bit about it. But I you know, if
35:51
Speaker 5: you call, if you call Foster, I'm going to be
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Speaker 5: the one that comes out and go over everything with
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Speaker 4: thank you so much for your time. Great time to
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: We'll talk to you next time next month. Brett Hawschon
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Speaker 4: from Foster Foundation Repair, Thank you for listening listen morning.
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