Latest / The Strength In Numbers Podcast / EP 23: Strength In Numbers—The Making of the Book
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- 0:00Welcome to the Strength in Numbers podcast.
- 0:02I'm your host John Bloom in today's episode is actually
- 0:04gonna be our first solo episode where I breakdown the process
- 0:09and idea and creation of the Strength in Numbers book, which
- 0:13is what this podcast originated from.
- 0:15The book was 108 coaches from different fields, different
- 0:19domains, contributing there inside and experience by
- 0:23answering 12 questions. And it's just an incredible
- 0:27guidebook of mentorship and coaching wisdom that impacted
- 0:31me, impacted a lot of people. So I wanted I wanted to continue
- 0:34that right. And so that's where this podcast
- 0:35is from. But I get AI get a lot of
- 0:37questions from people of like, what was that process of writing
- 0:40that book and putting it together and getting coaches to
- 0:44be in it? And so I want, you know, I
- 0:45wanted to take an episode and just kind of breakdown that
- 0:47process from the idea of having the book to all the way through
- 0:52releasing it and a little bit after there talk about in the
- 0:55introduction of the book where the idea came from.
- 0:58I can picture this moment vividly.
- 1:00I think it's September and when I was working at Oral Roberts on
- 1:04a Sunday, I was reading back through Tim Ferriss, his book
- 1:07Tribe of Mentors, which is something I'd read before.
- 1:09But I was reading back through his introduction where he
- 1:12describes his process of creating his book and how why he
- 1:16developed the questions and how he was struggling with finding
- 1:19his answer to his questions that he had on his own.
- 1:21Is like, I got, why not make this easy and go send these
- 1:25questions to the best people in the world from different
- 1:27domains, get their answers. And that's what he did.
- 1:30And that's what he turned into this book of wisdom from all
- 1:33types of highly successful people across the world.
- 1:37And I was reading through that and just had this idea like, why
- 1:41not do this for strength and conditioning?
- 1:43And I started thinking about all the people I'd want to ask, what
- 1:46I'd want to ask. I started typing those names and
- 1:49those questions into notes and, and my phone and just started
- 1:53thinking on that the next couple days as I was going through work
- 1:56and as I was making those questions, making that list of
- 2:00people, I started then just to think, you know, this shouldn't
- 2:04just be for strength and conditioning.
- 2:07It like it for me as a strength coach, I've gained so much
- 2:10knowledge and wisdom from looking outside of that to other
- 2:13people and and learning from, you know, sport coaches,
- 2:15different sports, and we should get these different perspectives
- 2:18in these different lenses. So that, OK, I want to create
- 2:20questions that could be applied across coaching and not just
- 2:26strength the machine, but it's still providing value for
- 2:28everybody. And then that that way it's also
- 2:30going to reach a lot more people than just being niched down to
- 2:33just strength coaches. So then I started reframing my
- 2:35questions where they could apply to a wider variety of people.
- 2:41And really the goal is I thought about too is like this is
- 2:44directed towards coaches, but ultimately, like, I want this to
- 2:47be a book that really anybody could pick up.
- 2:50And it, you know, 90% of it applies to their career where
- 2:55it's it's ultimately wisdom and guidance that's very, very
- 2:58transferable to everybody. So started shaping those
- 3:01questions and think of the people.
- 3:03And I remember I started, you know, talking to a few of my
- 3:06friends about the idea and sending them the questions and
- 3:09seeing kind of what they thought.
- 3:10And once I kind of got my questions together, the very
- 3:13first person that I sent them to and, and sent them back, I think
- 3:16even that week was actually Connor Agnew at Appalachian
- 3:20State strength coach there. And he also runs the Sampson
- 3:23strength coach collective podcast.
- 3:24So he was, he was the very first person to send in his answers.
- 3:28So shout out Connor. I appreciate you, man.
- 3:32And then I remember that fall at Oral Roberts with my, with my
- 3:35staff there. I, I was running these things.
- 3:37We, we did these 55 minute meetings where it was basically
- 3:41a staff, staff meet each Friday and each person got 5 minutes to
- 3:45present on something, whatever, whatever they wanted to come in
- 3:48and present on 5 minutes straight couldn't go over.
- 3:51We had, we put a timer up every time and we all had to come with
- 3:54something and then we go, we go around the room and do that no
- 3:58questions asked or anything until finally after everyone's
- 4:01gone. Then we kind of give feedback,
- 4:03break it down, and it's just a way to allow everybody to work
- 4:07on their communication skills, work on the presenting skills,
- 4:09and actually be able to take input and create some output and
- 4:14be able to communicate that at a higher level.
- 4:16And then also just give a variety of kind of knowledge
- 4:20across the room of what everybody's kind of digging into
- 4:22whatever they wanted to present and just educate each other.
- 4:26So, so that was when we were doing it.
- 4:28So then I decided on one of those to present on my 5 minutes
- 4:33on this idea and the questions and kind of the goal for that.
- 4:37I created like a the cover and an intro.
- 4:39You just using Canva kind of wrote the intro almost really
- 4:44almost exactly what the book ends up being with the intro.
- 4:47I ended up, you know, as it as we got further along making
- 4:51edits and making it sound better.
- 4:53But really the essential ideas of that introduction that is
- 4:57actually published was from the fall of of that year from from
- 5:01from over a year before the book was actually published.
- 5:05And I the the cover was almost exactly the same that I created
- 5:09Lily that day before presenting on that main Canva.
- 5:13Besides, it was, I had some red in the cover and I changed that
- 5:17to blue and maybe change the fonts a little bit.
- 5:21But pretty much the cover was exactly what I made that day.
- 5:26And so I presented that to my staff, sent in the questions.
- 5:29And that was kind of like my commitment to like putting it
- 5:33out there a little bit of, OK, this is, this is something I'm
- 5:35saying I'm going to do rather than just having an idea in my
- 5:39head and put in, put in some pressure and put in some stakes
- 5:44on myself to actually, OK, this is something I've got to really
- 5:47start to work on. And I remember around that time
- 5:49I, I got a notebook kind of dedicated to this project.
- 5:55And I would just put in, I would have like the the name of a
- 5:58coach, a date for when I reached out to them about being in this,
- 6:03a date on, you know, if they committed to doing it.
- 6:07And then kind of a check mark and date on if they actually
- 6:10sent it in. And so started started then, OK,
- 6:14sending out these questions to these coaches and, and framing
- 6:17kind of the goal of the book of, you know, how all of us have
- 6:21been impacted by other coaches and wanting to now share that
- 6:25and impact other coaches with our experience and wisdom.
- 6:28And kind of, you know, what the questions are about and how it's
- 6:31wisdom on on career. As I thought about reaching out
- 6:34people like, obviously I had the most connections to strength
- 6:38coaches, so that was easy. But it's like, OK, I want to
- 6:41make sure there is a diversification and just doing
- 6:45research on, you know, different coaches from different sports
- 6:48and, and, and finding different perspectives.
- 6:52Like that was the goal and making sure that I'm reaching
- 6:55out to a variety of people. And obviously there's a, a
- 6:58heavier percentage of strength, which is just from my
- 7:01connections and network there. But I, I did try and be
- 7:04intentional and trying to make sure there was a diversification
- 7:07of sport and domain and, and kind of who was in there.
- 7:11And I thought it would be, you know, people ask me like, like
- 7:13how many people did you actually know as you reach out to how
- 7:15many were just brand new people? So I tried to I tried to do a
- 7:19little bit of of kind of break looking back research and break
- 7:22that down a little bit. And from what I found of the 108
- 7:25people, it looks like about 57 of them I had some form of
- 7:29connection or relation to some knowing them really well.
- 7:31Some of them maybe just a few interactions.
- 7:36But then there's at least 51 that I had zero prior
- 7:40interaction to reaching out about this book.
- 7:43I think one really cool thing throughout this whole project is
- 7:46how willing so many coaches were to help with this.
- 7:50And especially on some of these coaches that are at the
- 7:53absolute, you know, elite of what they're doing and being
- 7:56willing to respond and, and help somebody that they didn't even
- 7:59know with this project. When, when I was looking at my
- 8:02research, it, it looked like I think I asked when I looked back
- 8:05through all the DMS and emails and, and everything, it looks
- 8:09like at least 198 at least coaches I asked in total,
- 8:13probably even more than that. I mean, it looks like 136 said
- 8:17yes, obviously ended up receiving 108 of those plus six
- 8:22more bonus ones that I had for the the bonuses when I released.
- 8:25So there is and there is, there's, there's a lot of a lot,
- 8:29a lot of DNS and and crafting of messages to send out that that
- 8:33was, that was a draining. That was definitely a draining
- 8:35part of that. It was definitely a long process
- 8:38then to continue to follow up with lots of coaches where some
- 8:41of them send them right away, but there's definitely lots of
- 8:43follow-ups over the months and months and months to get those
- 8:47submissions. But it was so worth it, right?
- 8:49Even as as those as those trinkled in, you know, people
- 8:53send them in as it would always be exciting once you finally got
- 8:56some of them coming in. But to kind of read those over
- 8:58those periods of months and year was really cool and really
- 9:02impactful to myself. And, and my goal actually with
- 9:05the, the book was actually just to create APDF like, and I
- 9:08thought it'd be OK, like create this, this PDF like with these
- 9:11coaches and maybe send it to my friends, maybe try to get some
- 9:14people like, and really try to put this together as soon as I
- 9:17could. But as I got more and more
- 9:18responses and just saw like who was responding and, and the
- 9:23quality of the content that was coming in, because like, I want
- 9:26to, I want to do this right. Like, I want to put this
- 9:28together into an actual book. And for me personally, I always
- 9:32like to have, you know, hard copy of a book.
- 9:34I can actually, you know, write in highlight, carry with me.
- 9:39That's for me that far as far superior than an ebook in terms
- 9:44of just actually having that physically there.
- 9:47Obviously we did. I did make the ebook version,
- 9:50but you know, it just hit that point.
- 9:52It's like, Hey, I want some, I want to I want to try and do
- 9:54this right. I've always wanted to write a
- 9:56book, but I never, I thought it would be this soon or, or who
- 10:00knows when it would actually happen.
- 10:01It was like, let's try and do this, right.
- 10:04So that's when they said, OK, we're going to make this actual
- 10:06book. And so, you know, I was working
- 10:08throughout that whole year or Robert's my, my position there
- 10:12and just continuing to reach out and ask people if they could be
- 10:16in it. Continue to try and collect
- 10:18these answers to the questions as I got to the spring of that,
- 10:23especially once we got out of basketball season and I had I
- 10:26had a little more sponsors still lots of lots to collect, but I
- 10:29wanted to start putting together the themes at the end of the the
- 10:33book. I put themes of what are the
- 10:35common answers, the common things that keep popping up from
- 10:38these top coaches that maybe, you know, maybe they got some
- 10:42different ways, but like they do things different ways, but the
- 10:45guiding principles or kind of places they end up are pretty
- 10:49similar for these 12 questions that people think can go to, to
- 10:53reference and, and see these centralizing ideas.
- 10:56And so I tried to start putting those together and, and, and
- 10:59throughout the process of collecting, I would take notes
- 11:01of, OK, these things are starting to pop up.
- 11:03But but then as I want to start trying to write some of those
- 11:06themes and put that together so I can start to prepare for as I
- 11:09get closer to collecting all the responses.
- 11:13And obviously there is not really a, a, a finite timeline
- 11:17for that because I could, you could continue to collect
- 11:20forever in my, my, my head. I kind of had to go like, I want
- 11:22to get at least 100. I think it'd be really cool to
- 11:24have at least 100 coaches in there.
- 11:26So I put those themes in the spring.
- 11:29At that same time, it's the time where I'm making a transition
- 11:33from leaving college athletics to the end of that school year
- 11:35at Oral Roberts, moving back to Dallas and starting my my
- 11:38business with training and with coaching education stuff.
- 11:43So there's a lot going at that time.
- 11:44So I'm still collecting stuff. So reaching out, but also
- 11:47putting some of the editing in and, and working on this book on
- 11:50the on the back seat a little bit because of the other
- 11:53transitions happening. So during that summer, I really
- 11:56wasn't working on it quite as much.
- 11:58Besides, I was, you know, doing quite a bit of interviews
- 12:02through Zoom for it where there was a number of coaches that
- 12:05asked to do whether it's phone calls or Zooms instead of
- 12:09writing. So then I could record that and
- 12:11put that together. So as able to take care of quite
- 12:14a few of those. But from the editing process
- 12:16wasn't doing quite as much as I got settled into running the
- 12:19business. When I hit the fall, most of my
- 12:21training would then be in the evening from an actual in person
- 12:25coaching standpoint. So I was able to start spending
- 12:27a lot of time during the days actually working on the process
- 12:31of collecting, but also really editing, especially those those
- 12:37zoom ones, those phone calls. That was a hey long process of
- 12:42using an app called Descript to get a transcript from that.
- 12:46But then having to then go and edit and, you know, edit the
- 12:49grammar, edit out all the filler words, try and make it sound a
- 12:53lot smoother from conversation to actually written text where
- 12:57it was good to read. So that took that took a lot of
- 13:01time to do, but there was so much value that came from having
- 13:05those in person calls and videos and and just so much wisdom.
- 13:10And I'm so glad that I had those opportunities with those coaches
- 13:12to get that. Those are those are some of the
- 13:14most impactful conversations and sections of the book to me.
- 13:19Originally, I'd wanted to release the book in the summer.
- 13:23That kept getting pushed back and was like, hey, I want to do
- 13:25in the fall. And then I kind of settled on
- 13:27like December time frame. I think it's good, you know,
- 13:30with a lot of people that will be listening to this probably in
- 13:33the college sector, that's when, you know, especially a lot of
- 13:36college basketball, OK, the season starts in November.
- 13:38There's a lot going on during the school.
- 13:40Let that beginning fall apart. So again in December ish, that's
- 13:43when a lot of people in that Christmas break period.
- 13:45So it might be a good time to try and release this at that
- 13:48point. So that was kind of a mind
- 13:50frame. I wanted to announce it about
- 13:52two months before. So then kind of set on that,
- 13:55that, that preview date of in the beginning mid-october, about
- 14:00two months before that December release date.
- 14:02I remember. So with that, that preview, I,
- 14:06I, you know, haven't I set a hard deadline for myself of, of
- 14:09that date in October that, that preview created a high sense of
- 14:15urgency to get what I needed done before that, right?
- 14:17I needed to, I put together APDF of the, of the 1st 10 coaches.
- 14:21So there's a lot to get done in terms of learning to edit that
- 14:25and how to create how that looked using Adobe Print.
- 14:28So creating the landing page for it on the website.
- 14:31And at that point, I've done no e-mail marketing.
- 14:33So I had to learn how to create that whole e-mail marketing
- 14:36process where then it would automatically send the PDF of
- 14:40somebody submitted their e-mail, you know, just creating the post
- 14:43on Instagram and LinkedIn and all that.
- 14:45So the week before that release date, I worked non-stop.
- 14:50The night before it, I was up, so probably almost midnight
- 14:54editing things and getting things ready from that.
- 14:56The day of I was trying to make sure the e-mail stuff
- 15:00automations were working and really got that rolling just
- 15:03within the 24 hours, really probably 12 hours before that.
- 15:07So there were there was so much going into that, you know, and
- 15:11yeah, I found one more. This was a great example of
- 15:14having some set deadlines with stakes set with it creates A
- 15:18creates can create a high level of productivity.
- 15:21And I, I saw that and those that week for sure.
- 15:24So with that, that evening in October released the, the
- 15:28preview on Instagram or announced it on Instagram and
- 15:31LinkedIn that I was going to have this book coming out.
- 15:33And it was so cool to see the feedback and so many of the
- 15:37coaches that were in the book reposting and sharing it.
- 15:40And then that was one of the, the cool things about the books.
- 15:42Like I knew if I was, if I was going to write a book by myself,
- 15:45like I don't necessarily have a name that's like going to sell a
- 15:48book where a lot of people are interested, but there's so many
- 15:50people in this book that that I can reach their audiences and
- 15:54reach the people that are following them and market the
- 15:57book from that way. So I think, you know, that was a
- 15:59really cool unique aspect of strength in numbers.
- 16:02But it was so cool see it, see all that and see the number of
- 16:04people commenting to get that free preview and just getting
- 16:08really cool feedback on the preview as well.
- 16:11But then once that was done is like, man, we, you know, it's
- 16:14it, it was then grinding for two months to make sure, OK, we have
- 16:18the stakes now to actually get this ready to actually print.
- 16:22And there's still so much to figure out.
- 16:23Like the entire Amazon Kindle direct publishing, which, which
- 16:27I self published through Amazon there.
- 16:29I had to figure out that whole process really.
- 16:32And there's a lot to figure out, a lot to figure out on still
- 16:35editing the entire book. You know, a lot of people I, I,
- 16:38I committed to wanting to try and do as pretty much all of
- 16:42this on my own. It's just kind of my head of
- 16:44like trying not have to hire like a marketer or a publisher,
- 16:48an editor. I just just figure this out like
- 16:50I had the time during the day, figure this out and try and just
- 16:53create this this project amount. So in terms of actually doing
- 16:56the internal editing of like creating the formatting to print
- 17:02and publish, I took a course, I was called Stone Ridge
- 17:05Publishing, Mandy Lynn, she had a like a $55 course on how to
- 17:09create the internal formatting for your book.
- 17:12And I dove into that and learn to format it internally for
- 17:16myself. And I, I wanted to look high
- 17:17level. So I, I've put a lot of time
- 17:20into formatting that and learning to do that through
- 17:22Adobe print, which was a tedious process, but I think really cool
- 17:27and really valuable to do on my own.
- 17:29And, and also just be able to create edits and, and make the
- 17:32things exactly how I wanted them and go and tweak different
- 17:35things along the way if I wanted to, not have to rely on other
- 17:38people to pay them to do that. And, and just allow myself to
- 17:43create the vision I wanted for and constantly update it while
- 17:47while I was also creating, working on creating all that.
- 17:50I, you know, I want to start drip marketing for the book
- 17:54after announcing it. So what that was, if you go see
- 17:57kind of the the post I make for Instagram, where I would what I
- 18:00really went to is carousels where it was a picture of the
- 18:03coach with one of the questions that they answered.
- 18:07And on the next part, then I had a, their quote from that book of
- 18:11kind of their answer. And then also then another slide
- 18:14with kind of the background of who that coach was, their
- 18:16experience, where they're at. And then kind of a the last one
- 18:20is just a call to action to go get the preview for the book.
- 18:23And, you know, I start having like one or two of those a week.
- 18:26I tried to do some reels for the coaches that we did a Zoom and
- 18:29just found that didn't really get much reach.
- 18:31So I kind of settle on just doing these carousels there and
- 18:34then with the collaboration with those coaches, sent it to their
- 18:37their people, their followers. That got really, really good
- 18:41reach there and really good feedback.
- 18:45And, you know, did that for a while.
- 18:47And and actually I wanted to listen with that carousel idea
- 18:49that was from some conversations Tim Riley in Austin of, of
- 18:53thinking of kind of how we could best market this.
- 18:55And we kind of he kind of really helped me think about and create
- 18:59kind of that model for Howard is doing that carousel.
- 19:02So I just want to shout out him and thank him for his help and
- 19:05thinking about that because those did really well.
- 19:08And so then as I got closer, then I increased it to from just
- 19:13like 2 times per week, coaches going like 3 times per week and
- 19:16really trying to get that out and, and getting more people to
- 19:19get the preview of those first ten coaches.
- 19:21So then they get on the e-mail list and, and have updates and,
- 19:24and get into seeing what was happening for the book.
- 19:27Now, as we go back to those themes that I talked about
- 19:30writing for the book, I'd written some of the stuff in the
- 19:32spring, but then in August, I remember I got some whiteboards
- 19:36out and once I pretty much had all of the most of the most of
- 19:40the questions collected from coaches.
- 19:42Not all of them, but a lot of them.
- 19:44I literally wrote all of the coaches and went through every
- 19:47one of their answers for that section and kind of wrote a
- 19:50theme of what they had. And then started kind of
- 19:53circling, OK, how many, how many were saying this or how many
- 19:56were kind of talking about this and kind of counting it up to
- 19:59centralized what the actual main themes were that had the most.
- 20:03Talking points from different coaches throughout and then kind
- 20:06of grouping those together and allowing me to have these key
- 20:09points for each question that I could then go and put my
- 20:12thoughts on to. And then craft into a section of
- 20:16kind of the Cliff Notes version where people could get these key
- 20:20ideas. And then go reference back to
- 20:21quotes and go dive deeper into that.
- 20:24If maybe they were going through a job change and they want to go
- 20:27see the things for that and see the people for that.
- 20:30So I remember I actually have pictures of it if anybody wanted
- 20:32to see, but of of those whiteboards with literally 100
- 20:35plus names and then you know, page numbers and quotes and
- 20:39stuff next to all them. So that was that was pretty,
- 20:42pretty tedious process, but I think helped, really helped me
- 20:45craft what, what the themes actually were and kind of how
- 20:49how I was viewing that and my thoughts on that too.
- 20:51And it's similar process with a whiteboard.
- 20:53I started to craft what I wanted the order of the coaches in the
- 20:57book to be. And I wanted to be specific with
- 21:00that, where it's not like, OK, I'm just putting the best
- 21:02coaches 1st and and then whatever.
- 21:04But it's like, I want to make sure that the great insights are
- 21:07spread throughout and there's also a flow within the book to
- 21:10help the reader as they're reading through it.
- 21:12And kind of what I said on, I was like, I want there to be
- 21:15like an order of a shorter section than a medium section
- 21:19and then a longer section. And my purpose of that is like,
- 21:22you know, because there's some sections where it's like this
- 21:24like almost 20 pages and then somewhere it's literally just
- 21:27one page. So I know it's hard.
- 21:29If it's like, OK, I'm going to have back-to-back like super
- 21:32long sessions that are sections that might make it harder for
- 21:35the reader from a flow standpoint.
- 21:36So they OK, if I can have a really short section followed by
- 21:39medium and then a long section, which within then lead back into
- 21:42a short section, it kind of helps the reader with a flow of
- 21:45OK, if I read a really long section, then I kind of get a
- 21:47break with a shorter section. So that was that was it.
- 21:51You you can look back and see. So I can I then had all the page
- 21:55numbers and kind of grouped it within that, spreading that out
- 21:58throughout the book. And also sometimes where it's
- 22:00like if I knew there was some coach that a lot of people knew
- 22:03their name and would go read, but then maybe there was a coach
- 22:06that had an incredible section, incredible value, but maybe
- 22:09people didn't know as much. I might put that section after
- 22:13be really well known coach. So then it leads into that
- 22:16section and then people will discover that that that high
- 22:19value there. So that that was kind of my
- 22:21thought process with the order the book.
- 22:22Now I talked about before of having to figure out the whole
- 22:25Amazon KDP process and there was a lot to figure out through the
- 22:30so much online and just YouTube videos of people and, and their
- 22:34process of how they how they do that and what you need to do for
- 22:37that. And just diving into that.
- 22:39Once I had more of the actual PDF internal formatting ready.
- 22:42And and The funny thing is with Amazon KDP, you can have
- 22:45different formats. Obviously the hardcover, the
- 22:48paperback and then the on Amazon just kindle ebook version.
- 22:52And when I finally got my internal format all done and I
- 22:55had everything collected, I had the PDF that I needed and I was
- 22:59uploading that to submit for the hardcover for the trim size 7 by
- 23:0410 I had the amount of pages I had was actually over the limit
- 23:08for that size. So I had to go in and really
- 23:12break down and do so much editing where I tried to edit
- 23:15where you can edit different spacing on like last lines to
- 23:18make sure it pops, pops over and does doesn't have just like one
- 23:22word hanging over the next page, but makes that just one page.
- 23:26But then also just cutting down some people's answers and taking
- 23:29some stuff out to trim that down to literally like I literally
- 23:33had the exact, I put it down the I think 548 pages of that 7 by
- 23:3710 hardcover is, is the literally the limit.
- 23:41And that's what I had in the book.
- 23:42So literally we have the Max amount of pages in that book
- 23:46that, you know, it's a it's a very thick book, but I always
- 23:48tell people you don't have to read up front to back.
- 23:50So that was a lot. That was that was hard.
- 23:52It's hard. You don't want to take anything
- 23:54out. But obviously I have to get it
- 23:55down to the number. So I did my best to not to, to
- 23:58take away as little as I could with that.
- 24:01When it comes to the book cover, you know, like I said way back
- 24:03in that fall when I first had the idea, I kind of made the
- 24:05cover, but then I had to learn how to actually create the
- 24:09formatting that fits onto Amazon KDP.
- 24:13Oh, lately you've learned that through YouTube, created that
- 24:15through Canva, created that that whole thing myself.
- 24:19And then one of the one of the final process I had for the book
- 24:22was confirming the transcripts that I had made from the people
- 24:25that did phone calls or Zoom calls and just saying those
- 24:29Google Docs back and forth. And if they wanted any edits
- 24:32from what they said and just going back and forth to that and
- 24:35making sure that that people were OK with everything I had
- 24:37there. And then through that process of
- 24:40finally getting it all together, finally finalizing everything
- 24:44through Amazon KDP. And I was able to finally submit
- 24:46for a proof copy, which Amazon will then basically send you
- 24:50what it'll look like. It has a thing on the front that
- 24:52says not for sale. So you can't really get it, but
- 24:54it's basically what it's going to look like once you actually
- 24:57publish your your thing. And I submit all that.
- 24:59And I remember it was November 2nd because I was me and my wife
- 25:03are literally moving up into a new apartment that day and it
- 25:06was a Saturday. And that morning the proof copy
- 25:10came in of the heart of the hard copy of the book.
- 25:13And that was probably the most rewarding and best moment and
- 25:17most gratifying moment of this whole process where I remember
- 25:21open it up and, and I honestly, my mindset was that with, with
- 25:27doing the, the Amazon KDP was that the first one was probably
- 25:31going to be messed up. Like with doing the internal
- 25:34form writing myself in the book cover myself.
- 25:36I was like, I'm probably going to have to edit a ton once I
- 25:38actually see what it looks like. But I remember opening up that
- 25:41Amazon package pointed out and it looking so much better than I
- 25:46actually thought it would. And, and like being so happy
- 25:49with how it looked that that was, that was honestly such a
- 25:52cool moment getting to see the cover and hold it and open it up
- 25:56and being really happy with what the internal formatting looked
- 25:59like. And there was, there's a couple,
- 26:00there's some edits I found through there that I, you know,
- 26:03on the on the back cover at the Megan stuff and different
- 26:05things. But really it was pretty much
- 26:07exactly how like better than I envisioned wanting it.
- 26:10That that was such a cool moment on that November 2nd Saturday.
- 26:13I remember getting to see it and through that process, then I
- 26:16literally just reading, reading the book myself and looking for
- 26:20any errors that I had and looking for anything with
- 26:24grammar or just the formatting the book and reading through
- 26:28that whole thing. Just I would highlight if I
- 26:30found anything and then submitting again for proofs kind
- 26:34of once I edit all that and get in another copy of that, there's
- 26:37after a couple of rounds that finally is like, OK, this, this
- 26:40is it. And driving myself crazy reading
- 26:43that over and over again is like, fine.
- 26:44It's like, OK, we're at a point where I like, I think it's time
- 26:47and I was over. Then submit it all and get it
- 26:49ready for that December release date that I had.
- 26:54And then as I'm getting ready for that release date, I kind of
- 26:56had the idea to have the bonuses to hopefully draw more people.
- 26:59And so if you don't know those bonuses, I did 6 bonus sections
- 27:04from coaches as APDF from six coaches that aren't on the
- 27:07actual hard copy of the book. That has some really great
- 27:09value. But then I had the idea to do
- 27:12these Zoom calls with coaches in the book and just dive deeper
- 27:15and actually ask questions on on their answers and have some
- 27:18really cool conversations. And I had to be like 20 of those
- 27:21with just awesome conversations and uploaded those into my
- 27:24website where then if people would and got the book within
- 27:28the first week, they got access to all of these bonuses and can
- 27:32watch these videos, get the extra PDF and hopefully push
- 27:35them to get that book. And so that was super, super
- 27:37cool. I, you know, I wish more people
- 27:40had access or really got went into those bonuses because I'm
- 27:43not sure a ton even did or knew too much about them, but there's
- 27:47so much value in those. So it was super cool, I think
- 27:50and wish more people had that. But that was, that was a ton of
- 27:53work doing all those zoom calls and getting them uploaded within
- 27:57a pretty short time. Frankly, there was, there was,
- 27:59there was a couple of those weeks where I was probably
- 28:01having like, I probably like 10 or so of those zoom calls within
- 28:04one week. Some of them I like 3 in a day.
- 28:06I'm so I felt like that kind of got, got me prepared for doing
- 28:08these podcasts and, and learning to interview and craft those
- 28:12questions out. That was, that was really great
- 28:14practice for getting to do this podcast.
- 28:16So finally we get to that point in December where the book is
- 28:20released. And I remember the the day of
- 28:22it, I was, I had it set for that evening to release, I think
- 28:26around 6:00 or so. And I, yeah, I was doing my, my,
- 28:28my business. So, so I was coaching actually
- 28:30when it released. And I remember my wife was there
- 28:33trained too. And I told her I had, I need you
- 28:34to order a couple of these so I can have some because I was
- 28:37going to go to Austin that weekend to go deliver them to.
- 28:40I want to give it a Darby Rich, who, you know, one of my, one of
- 28:43my closest mentors and he also wrote the Ford for the book.
- 28:46So I wanted to give him be the first one to give him a copy and
- 28:50also give it to Zach Zillner since he was also there at Texas
- 28:53with the women's basketball team.
- 28:55I'm sorry, I was like, I tell them if I need to, to order a
- 28:58couple copies as soon as possible so I can have those
- 29:01hopefully shipped in in time to leave in a couple of days and
- 29:04deliver those because I can get, I can get author copies, but
- 29:07those take like 3 or 4 weeks and take a lot longer than actually
- 29:11ordering from Amazon. I mean, I get done with
- 29:13training, we go home and we have a really cool book release party
- 29:18my parents and my wife helped put together and had a lot of
- 29:21friends and family there to support.
- 29:23Kind of show them about the book, talk about the book.
- 29:25And just that was a really special moment that they put
- 29:29some really cool stuff together and just get to relax for a
- 29:32brief moment after really working really hard on that and
- 29:35get to kind of celebrate that. And just, you know, just finally
- 29:39had that moment of, you know, a year plus of work to have this
- 29:44thing finally released. And it is so cool too, because
- 29:48it was even within that day, it was it was in the number one in
- 29:51new releases in a couple sections on Amazon, which which
- 29:53was completely unexpected. And that was that was really,
- 29:57really special to see and just just really gratified and, and,
- 30:01and grateful for all the people that supported that the coaches
- 30:04that supported that were in it and supported getting out there
- 30:07and just my family and their help and support.
- 30:09And especially when I didn't, I didn't pay for a single thing of
- 30:12marketing. So just being what kind of self
- 30:14market organically and just to help these coaches was, was, was
- 30:18really special. I mean, and right now it's cool.
- 30:20I, you know, I've, it's about, I think about 450 copies of sold
- 30:24without doing any paid marketing.
- 30:25So it's super cool. Just the amount that it's been
- 30:28able to have been been spread and the things that I've gotten
- 30:31back in terms of the impact it's had for coaches and kind of
- 30:35their journey. I think some cool messages too
- 30:37from different coaches on hey, like I've bought multiple of
- 30:40these to give to my interns or my assistants and this is great
- 30:42for our staff development. Yeah.
- 30:44I was just not that like I told myself along the way as like if
- 30:47this impacts one person, I think it's worth it.
- 30:50Like like there's so much time and energy and like money on my
- 30:54end to to create this. But like if it if it impacts 11
- 30:57coach, like it's worth it. So it has been far, far and
- 31:01beyond worth it from seeing the impact and the notes of feedback
- 31:06from coaches and how it's impacted them.
- 31:09So, so thank you for the people that have sent in those notes
- 31:11that have shared things like that, that have shared it with
- 31:14other coaches, because that's that's made all the hours worth
- 31:17doing this. And you know, I want to give a
- 31:19special thank you to Josie and my wife and just her constant
- 31:23support throughout it, through the heat, the ups and downs of
- 31:27the, the process and the the doubts and all that comes with
- 31:31it. Like she was always a rock by my
- 31:33side and just helping me and my family, my family too, just
- 31:36their constant support and seeing the vision and supporting
- 31:41the vision of what I had for this.
- 31:43And you know, I'm just the the messages and in the thing I got.
- 31:47Like that's that's why I wanted to do this podcast because of
- 31:50that impact and just continue to have those conversations.
- 31:54And like, for those of you that read the book, like, you know,
- 31:56like a lot of it, and the goal of a lot of the book is again,
- 32:00to not be just XS and OS specific to strengthen machine
- 32:03or specific sport, but kind of the conversations that aren't
- 32:06always being had being had by coaches or being had by people
- 32:10going through school. But the, the conversations that
- 32:13actually really important determine our day-to-day and
- 32:15determine our career and determine our ability to make
- 32:19money and be there with our family and in our, our mental
- 32:21States and, and how we're living our life and having an actual
- 32:25career with longevity and purpose.
- 32:30And that's why we're doing this podcast too, is to have those
- 32:32questions. And like, I think it's so cool.
- 32:35And I've talked about this a number of times with people, but
- 32:37how vulnerable and open so many coaches were in the book.
- 32:41And these are coaches that are at the highest level of how open
- 32:44they were to their failures and their, their, you know, mental
- 32:49struggles and they're burned out and the, the things that they've
- 32:53gone through. Because for me, like, it just
- 32:56helps to see that. And I know for so many other
- 32:58coaches, like it's helped to see these other people talk about
- 33:01that, go through that. So we don't have to feel like we
- 33:04got to keep that internally in our own heads and not talk about
- 33:07that or not feel like, or feel like we shouldn't be going
- 33:10through that. So I think just being able to
- 33:12have these conversations and open up dialogue around that is
- 33:16needed within, within coaching, within all, all careers within
- 33:19life, within for everybody. I'm so I think that's, that's
- 33:23one special thing that I think I've been able to see and
- 33:26witness is, is that being talked about more by by so many coaches
- 33:31and especially coaches that we might think are perfect or at
- 33:36the highest level and haven't had to go through this.
- 33:38But like, OK, we say, hey, they, they went through this too.
- 33:41They're still where they're at. People still view them the way
- 33:43they view them, but they're not perfect.
- 33:45None of us are and life is not perfect for them.
- 33:48So so as we continue this, this podcast coming off the book like
- 33:52that's the goal is continue to impact coaches, continue to give
- 33:55them tools to be the best at what they do, but also have
- 33:59longevity and doing it and and and keep purpose and what
- 34:02they're doing and have a sustainable career and have
- 34:05those conversations too. And really like the goal.
- 34:08Also. I, I, I always thought about
- 34:10those young coaches, like what, what would I want when I first
- 34:13started coaching? And you know, I was also, I
- 34:16still do. I look to these top coaches like
- 34:18what, like what are the things that allow them to be who they
- 34:21are and the guiding principles. And like, I want to continue to
- 34:24uncover that and, and give those to the young, young coaches
- 34:28especially, but also all types of coaches that we can now have,
- 34:32not just a copy this coaches, but we can take these bits and
- 34:35pieces from all these top people and influence how we make
- 34:38decisions and how we shape our careers.
- 34:41And I want this, you know, I want the book to be something
- 34:43that coaches can give to their young assistants or their young
- 34:47interns as a mentorship guidebook, right?
- 34:50Because mentorship is so critical.
- 34:51That's what our field of coaching is built on.
- 34:54And we all need mentors in life. I, you know, I would not be
- 34:57here. So many people would not be
- 34:58where they're at without those mentors.
- 34:59But I think it's great to get mentorship from other people,
- 35:02other perspective and lenses too.
- 35:04And I think that's what this book provides because, you know,
- 35:07we're not going to connect. You're not going to connect with
- 35:09all 108 coaches in this book, but I, I guarantee you there are
- 35:12some people, some coaches in there that are speaking to
- 35:15exactly what you need in the moment of your life or career.
- 35:19And that's the goal is to be able to provide that guidebook
- 35:22of mentorship, just so much coaching experience and wisdom
- 35:26and, and continue that also with the people we're bringing on to
- 35:30the podcast and share that so that we can impact other coaches
- 35:34because that's what it's about, right?
- 35:35Coach is about impacting the athletes that were around their
- 35:38parents, like the other people, but also each other, right?
- 35:42We, we can't do this alone. None of us do it on our own.
- 35:45That's why we need strength in numbers with the coaches and
- 35:48families and people around us to build us up and allow us all to
- 35:52go much further than we could. We could all go alone.
- 35:55So I, I hope that you feel I'm doing that and providing those
- 35:59conversations and providing those guests to do that.
- 36:02If there's any way I can do a better job of that, please reach
- 36:05out to me on social media or my e-mail or wherever, you know,
- 36:09get my cell phone number. If there's anything I can do or
- 36:12people you want to see on this podcast or topics you want
- 36:15covered, reach out and let me know.
- 36:17But I, I, I, I hope, I hope this was valuable, kind of seen this
- 36:20process. If, if there's somebody that
- 36:22wants to write a book on their own, there's so much I learned
- 36:25from that process that please reach out to me.
- 36:28I can try and help you give you some pointers of what I learned
- 36:31along the way. But hopefully this was
- 36:33interesting and cool insight into kind of the building that
- 36:36whole book. I'm, I'm grateful for each one
- 36:38of you that are listening and supporting, supporting the show,
- 36:41supporting the book and I appreciate, appreciate all of
- 36:43y'all. Next episode I will be a guest
- 36:46in with Christian Placencia. It's an incredible episode that
- 36:49you are definitely not going to want to miss.
- 36:51Look forward to having you listen again next week.