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The Future of Women’s Sports: Amanda Lucci On Breaking Into the Press Room, the Power Of Narrative & Finding Growth In "No" · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: I think people are starting to realize, like, if you're
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  Speaker 1: a sports fan, then you'll love women's sports.
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  Speaker 2: It is for you.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Hurdler's Emily A Baddi.
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  Speaker 4: Here you are listening to another episode of Kurdle, a
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  Speaker 4: podcast featuring the mindset, secrets, and true stories of the
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  Speaker 4: most inspiring women in sports and wellness, empowering you to
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  Speaker 4: live a healthier, happier, more motivated life and of course,
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  Speaker 4: conquer your own hurdles. This week, I am sitting down
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  Speaker 4: with Amanda Lucci. She's the director of Special Projects at
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  Speaker 4: Women's Health. Amanda's a powerhouse in the media space, leading
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  Speaker 4: the brand's sports and athlete vertical and covering everything from
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  Speaker 4: the Olympics too the WNBA. In this week's episode, we're
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  Speaker 4: diving into the massive momentum behind women's sports and how
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  Speaker 4: Women's Health is doubling down on that energy. Amanda shares
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  Speaker 4: the behind the scenes of their recent Game Changers package,
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  Speaker 4: which highlights the woman literally transforming the future of sports.
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  Speaker 4: We also talk about their new exciting podcasts, The Huddle,
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  Speaker 4: not to be confused with Hurdle, which features incredible conversations
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  Speaker 4: with icons about longevity, performance and the grind behind the Glamour.
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  Speaker 4: Whether you're an athlete, a fan, or just someone looking
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  Speaker 4: for a little extra motivation, Amanda's perspective on the intersection
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  Speaker 4: of sport, health and culture is exactly what you need
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  Speaker 4: to hear. Make sure you're following along with Hurdle over
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  Speaker 4: on social It's over at Hurdle Podcasts. You can also
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  Speaker 4: check out Iheartwoman's Sports over at iHeart Women's Sports and
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  Speaker 4: Me over at Emily Abody. Listen to a hurdle with
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  Speaker 4: Emily A Body on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or
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  Speaker 4: wherever you get your podcasts.
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  Speaker 3: And with that, let's get to it. Let's get to
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  Speaker 3: hurdling today.
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  Speaker 4: I am sitting down with a man Andalucci. She is
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  Speaker 4: the director of Special Projects at Woman's Health.
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  Speaker 3: How are we doing, Amanda, Welcome to Hurtle.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: That's a dream.
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  Speaker 3: Oh a dream. I feel like it's a dream for me.
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  Speaker 4: It's always a fun moment when I get to bring
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  Speaker 4: friends into the studio. I get to sit down with
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  Speaker 4: my girls and make work out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, nothing better, no better way to spend.
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  Speaker 4: A Friday's That's what I'm talking about. So tell me
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  Speaker 4: I like the level set. Once we sit.
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  Speaker 3: Down here, How are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, pretty good. Actually, yeah, it's been really busy.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like I'm always saying.
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  Speaker 3: That, yeah, so good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I would be remiss if I didn't
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  Speaker 4: address liberty home opener not.
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  Speaker 5: I know, I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 1: Can you tell I'm in full liberty gear?
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  Speaker 4: Have you always been we'll jump right into it. A
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  Speaker 4: big fan of women's sports? Or has this become something
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  Speaker 4: that's really come with the job description And we'll get
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  Speaker 4: into that shortly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up a sports fan, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh and the Steelers, of the Pirates, the Penguins
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  Speaker 1: are in my blood so but those are all men's sports.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Pittsburgh has a growing women's sports landscape, but
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  Speaker 1: when I was growing up, I didn't really see it,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's why I love it so much.
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  Speaker 1: Now living in New York, having Gotham and the PWHL
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  Speaker 1: sirens and the Liberty of course, and being in this
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  Speaker 1: environment has been so amazing. I mean I've lived here
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  Speaker 1: for I want to say, over fifteen years at this point,
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  Speaker 1: and so you know, moving to New York changes you
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, and I think it made
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  Speaker 1: me a women's sports fan a lot.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of teams to highlight. But do we have
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  Speaker 4: a favorite team.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a Liberty season ticket holder, so I
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  Speaker 1: have to say, I have to say them. But also
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, well, I don't have to be neutral,
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  Speaker 1: you know what. Like at Women's Health, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we are very open about being fans and journalists at
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  Speaker 1: the same time. So I think I can I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm wearing Liberty merch today. I think I can confidently
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  Speaker 1: say I'm a big Liberty fan.
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  Speaker 3: Liberty Stan, Well, we love to hear it.
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  Speaker 4: And I am so inspired by everything that you do
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  Speaker 4: at Women's Health. I feel like the last few years
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  Speaker 4: have been a really fun time to be working at
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  Speaker 4: that brand, specifically as you've amped up the coverage of
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  Speaker 4: women's sports. So talk to me a little bit about
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  Speaker 4: what it is that you do in your role as
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  Speaker 4: Director of Special Projects.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a title that means a lot of different things. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I started at Women's Health, I would say, well, I'm
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  Speaker 1: in my tenth year now and I was hired as
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  Speaker 1: a social media editor and I still do that. I
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  Speaker 1: run our social team a group of amazing folks who
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  Speaker 1: kind of run the day to day. So I'm still
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  Speaker 1: working in that capacity, but that sort of evolved also
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  Speaker 1: into running our sports coverage, which it seems maybe it
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  Speaker 1: would seem like they don't connect, but really, how our
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  Speaker 1: sports coverage, I would say started is by posting on
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  Speaker 1: social when something cool would happen during an Olympics or
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  Speaker 1: you know, a WNBA championship or whatever it is. Even
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  Speaker 1: if we weren't doing something about it on the site,
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  Speaker 1: we could still post about it on social, post photos,
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  Speaker 1: post reactions, and we found that people were really excited
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  Speaker 1: about that, and it was getting a ton of engagement,
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  Speaker 1: and it just sort of naturally progressed into more and
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  Speaker 1: more coverage and on site and on the cover of
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  Speaker 1: the magazine and all the places.
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  Speaker 4: In all the places, and now you are truly in
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  Speaker 4: all of the places. Where was your most recent travels
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  Speaker 4: to cover women's sports?
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  Speaker 5: Phoenix?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe Phoenix for the Final four.
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  Speaker 4: And that is only the tip of the iceberg. I
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  Speaker 4: know that you've been to Paris to cover the Olympics.
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  Speaker 4: You also recently went to Milan to cover the Olympics.
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  Speaker 4: When I say that out loud, can you even believe
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  Speaker 4: that this is part of the work that you get
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  Speaker 4: to do.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's completely insane and so fun, and I'm so grateful.
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  Speaker 1: I'm grateful that like Women's Health is willing to invest
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  Speaker 1: in this coverage and that you know, I can be
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  Speaker 1: a woman journalist over there, which the people might be surprised.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe they would be surprised to know
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  Speaker 1: that there's not that many women's sports journalists.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: So when you go to something like the Final four,
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  Speaker 4: what is the climate of the people that you are
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  Speaker 4: surrounded by?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in the press rooms, it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of men. I mean, I would say, like in international
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  Speaker 1: media you notice it a lot more and it's getting better,
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  Speaker 1: but it's definitely a lot of men.
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  Speaker 5: Yea.
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  Speaker 1: And it's noticeable to me, especially in the questions that
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  Speaker 1: are asked the way they're asked sometimes, And so that's
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  Speaker 1: why I feel like it's so important for us to
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  Speaker 1: be in that room and to hopefully be able to
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  Speaker 1: change that narrative.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So when you say the type of questions that are asked,
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  Speaker 4: can we paint a picture here?
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  Speaker 1: Sure? I mean you've probably seen some of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that's gone viral recently, like getting people's names wrong, or
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  Speaker 1: getting the player wrong entirely, getting the position they play wrong,
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  Speaker 1: getting the team they play for wrong, generally getting it wrong,
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  Speaker 1: I find happens quite frequently. I there was a moment
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  Speaker 1: in Paris. I was in the so after an athlete competes,
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  Speaker 1: they go to something called the mix zone and they
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  Speaker 1: like basically go down the line and all the reporters
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  Speaker 1: are there to interview them. And I was covering women's
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  Speaker 1: three on three basketball and the US they had just
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  Speaker 1: won bronze, and that winning bronze in a tournament at
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  Speaker 1: the Olympics is really kind of a complicated result, right,
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  Speaker 1: because you had to lose a game that would have
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  Speaker 1: taken you to the gold medal game. And so you're
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  Speaker 1: coming off a loss and now you have to compete
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  Speaker 1: for a medal and it's not the medal you wanted,
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  Speaker 1: but you're still competing for a medal. And in on
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  Speaker 1: three you have to do that in a matter of
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  Speaker 1: like an hour, like you have to pivot like that.
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  Speaker 1: And so someone came through, I want to say it
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  Speaker 1: was Hayley van Lyth came through and I basically asked
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  Speaker 1: her about that, like, how did you make that mental
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  Speaker 1: pivot to come back and win a medal for our country?
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  Speaker 1: And after she left, one of the reporters, all the
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  Speaker 1: other reporters in the mix, ohone, by the way, we're
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  Speaker 1: all men. And after she left, one of them like
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  Speaker 1: turned to me and was like, thank you for asking
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  Speaker 1: that question, because I would have asked that in a
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  Speaker 1: really like disrespectful way. He was like, I just like,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't really sure how to phrase what I wanted to ask,
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  Speaker 1: And you knew how to talk to another woman in
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  Speaker 1: a way that would get, you know, their reaction to
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  Speaker 1: that experience. So I mean that just shows why it's
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  Speaker 1: so important to have women in the room.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, it's so important to have women in the room,
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  Speaker 4: especially when we're talking about women covering women's sports. But
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  Speaker 4: speaking of which, covering women's sports wasn't a exactly where
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  Speaker 4: you imagine that you would be in your career, and
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  Speaker 4: it's certainly far from where you started in your career.
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  Speaker 4: Talk to me a little bit about your desire to
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  Speaker 4: go into entertainment journalism and how that morphed over time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you did your research, girl, Well, do you know
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  Speaker 1: what's funny? I was actually thinking about this on the
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  Speaker 1: way over here. When I was in college, I worked
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  Speaker 1: for our student paper and I wrote one sports story.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to write about sports. I did like a
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. They needed someone to jump in and
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  Speaker 1: do like a recap of a baseball game or something,
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  Speaker 1: and the editor was like, I don't think this is
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like not so good.
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  Speaker 1: And it didn't make me like not want to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, of course I'm doing it now, but I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of like, nah, I don't know, like I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to entertainment. I mean, I always wanted to write
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  Speaker 1: about music. I love celebrities. I love celebrity culture. It's
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  Speaker 1: a guilty pleasure for me. So I kind of just
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  Speaker 1: found my way into that world.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 1: When I graduated, it was the era of like the
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  Speaker 1: intern runs your social media, so it was very I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say easy to break into social media.
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  Speaker 1: But like when I got to New York, I kind
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  Speaker 1: of found my footing that way, and I was doing
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  Speaker 1: that in the tabloid world, and then I would say, I,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I got to women's health in twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: It was a very interesting time in our country, and
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  Speaker 1: I really felt like, I wanted to make content that
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  Speaker 1: would help not just help people, and help women and
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  Speaker 1: help women navigate that time and their health and what
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  Speaker 1: their rights were. And Women's Health was looking for a
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  Speaker 1: social editor, so it was kind of the perfect moment
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  Speaker 1: to do that. So that's kind of how I ended
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  Speaker 1: up here, and then it just so happened. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Women's Health has always covered athletes in a way, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's very much a part of the brand, DNA, but
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  Speaker 1: then I just kind of took that and.
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  Speaker 3: Went nuts with it as a suggestion.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I pitched stories over and over and
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  Speaker 1: over and over, and then they finally were like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you can do it now.
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  Speaker 3: You can do it now.
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  Speaker 4: And when you did it, you saw, as you said before,
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  Speaker 4: some really great success with it. So it was indicative that, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: we see this success now, we see that there's a
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  Speaker 4: little room for momentum. Let's really see what happens when
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  Speaker 4: we go all in exactly. And so, as you have
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  Speaker 4: now been at Women's Health for nine plus years at
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  Speaker 4: this point, that's a long time to be at one brand,
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  Speaker 4: so you've seen a fair amount of change. What would
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  Speaker 4: you say when you got into your first role there
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  Speaker 4: working as a social editor was what you expected versus
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  Speaker 4: what was completely different.
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  Speaker 1: Well, when I interviewed for this job, I truly I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of like, I thought they would never hire
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  Speaker 1: me because I was not a traditional like fitness girly.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still not. I mean I like to I work
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  Speaker 1: out like we all do, but I felt like I
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  Speaker 1: didn't fit the mold. And then I realized that a
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  Speaker 1: women's health girl is not There is no mold like
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  Speaker 1: it is. You know, it's not just like you work
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  Speaker 1: out all the time. It's like you're mentally strong, you
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  Speaker 1: love sports, you you know, you have all these other
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  Speaker 1: interests and facets about you. And I realized how broad
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  Speaker 1: the scope of what women's health is and what it means.
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  Speaker 5: That was so exciting to me because then I was like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, like I can write about sports here, like this fits,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so much fits in our brand that I
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  Speaker 1: never would have thought when I first started.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so as you get your feet wet, you're thinking,
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  Speaker 4: maybe I don't know if this is right for me,
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  Speaker 4: and then it quickly becomes a parent that yes, this
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  Speaker 4: is something that I can totally get on board with
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  Speaker 4: one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: And the team is amazing. They're still amazing and have
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  Speaker 1: been really supportive of that.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, and also the climate of media has
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  Speaker 4: drastically changed since you started at this magazine. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: when you started at this magazine, I think my magazine
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  Speaker 4: still existed, and then my magazine didn't exist anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean layoffs, magazines folding.
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  Speaker 4: How does it feel for you to be in this
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  Speaker 4: space right now knowing that the climate, for lack of
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  Speaker 4: a better word, is kind of volatile.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's certainly scary. It's always kind of
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  Speaker 1: been scary. I mean, I'm very grateful to have the
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  Speaker 1: job that I have. I don't know if I think
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  Speaker 1: that anyone that any job is like.
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  Speaker 6: A guarantee, Yeah, in any industry exactly where.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of operate like while I'm here, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to do the best work that I possibly can do.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to live out my dreams. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: go to everything that I can, probably cool new stuff.
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  Speaker 1: One thing I like about this, the place that media
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  Speaker 1: is in right now, is that it feels a little
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  Speaker 1: bit like you can kind of try anything. Yeah, Like
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  Speaker 1: there's no rules anymore. There's so much of our coverage,
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  Speaker 1: especially our sports coverage used to be kind of defined
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  Speaker 1: by the algorithms and Google and all these things, and
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  Speaker 1: now it's sort of like, do we think it's cool,
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  Speaker 1: let's do it.
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  Speaker 4: And that experimentation can be really fun, especially as someone
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  Speaker 4: who has a social first background, because I believe that
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  Speaker 4: means that when you got involved in this career in
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  Speaker 4: the first place, you have to be really nimble and
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  Speaker 4: really quick thinking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you do. And sports is a lot like that, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like whatever happens in the WNBA today on the season
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  Speaker 1: opener is not We're gonna be onto something else on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I feel like it our content started
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  Speaker 1: in that space, yeah, because it was kind of like
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  Speaker 1: we could just react to it. And it has been
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  Speaker 1: a challenge, especially because for the most part, our sports
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  Speaker 1: team is me, so I kind of have to think
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  Speaker 1: about our content in that way, like what can I
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  Speaker 1: create that feels like it will live on longer than tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we don't really do game recaps and box
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  Speaker 1: scores and that kind of stuff, like we're doing more
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  Speaker 1: like deep dives into the actual players and who they
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  Speaker 1: are and who they are outside of their sport, and
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  Speaker 1: that stuff I feel like has a much longer shelf life.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, players and who they are outside of their sport.
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  Speaker 4: It makes me want to ask you more about Amanda,
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  Speaker 4: who she is outside of your role. I appreciated what
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  Speaker 4: you said about this kind of questioning of identity. When
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  Speaker 4: you came to Women's Health and you knew you were
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  Speaker 4: qualified for the job, but you weren't really super let's say,
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  Speaker 4: uh Women's Health air quotes expected woman knowing that. Now,
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  Speaker 4: what has your relationship been like with movement coming of
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  Speaker 4: age and then today?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Well I was an athlete growing up. I was on
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  Speaker 1: the rowing team, which is weird. I never meet other rowers,
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  Speaker 1: but that was my sport. I don't know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I did some other things, but I didn't really refall
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  Speaker 1: in love with movement until I started working at Women's Health.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when I moved here, it was very much
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  Speaker 1: like I was on the grind, like job to job,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: trying to just get by.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I would say I fully fell back
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  Speaker 1: in love with movement during COVID because that's when I
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  Speaker 1: discovered kettlebells and the idea that you don't need a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot to just work out. In your house, and
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  Speaker 1: that opened everything for me because I'm such a like
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  Speaker 1: I'm one of those people that it'll take me two
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  Speaker 1: hours to just like get it started. I'm like a
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  Speaker 1: night exercise or like I put it off, and that
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  Speaker 1: really opened up like a whole world for me. Shout
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  Speaker 1: out to Lauren Kanski and Madeline Kanti who are slash
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  Speaker 1: War on the Ladder app. They they were my kettlebell Shirpas.
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  Speaker 1: I would say, but yeah, and now, I mean, now
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  Speaker 1: my relationship to movement is like I basically like, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I have a kid now and he's twenty five pounds
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: of dead weight that I'm carrying her out my house
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: all the time. So it is fully I mean, I
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: thought people were so porny when they say this, but
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: it's true.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Like I need to be strong for him.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to be able to lift way more
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: than that to be able to keep up with him.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: So that's really how I think about it.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: What I'm hearing you say is it's a motivating factor
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: not only to be able obviously to lift him and
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: move around with him, but also I'm sure to an
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: extent set an example as he's growing up to be
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: in an active household.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves to watch my husband and I work
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: out at home and it's so fun. He has his
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: own little like toy kettlebells.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: And buddy, I know.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: It's so sweet and I love I mean him getting
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: in the way is certainly dangerous when you're swinging a
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: very large kettlebell, but it is worth it because I
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: think it's fun for him to see it as fun, right,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: and for him to grow up seeing that as just
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: like part of life.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I think about it a lot, because I bless them.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Grew up in a household where neither of my parents
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: really worked out a bit. I mean, I think my
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: mom maybe belonged to the YMCA. Yeah, but we would
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: sporadically go on walks, maybe a bike ride here and there,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: but otherwise life was really just not revolving around movement.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: And so I don't know if I'm going to have children,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: but if I do, it's something I do think about
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: a lot that like that is such an opportunity to
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: model for them a lifestyle that has given me so much. Obviously,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: they can make their own decisions, but at least I
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: want to, within my capacity, show them this can be
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: fun and it can be something that you can do regularly.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I always had I had had a similar thought.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Although I will say when you do have a kid,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: it does sort of feel like you feel a little
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: bit guilty. You feel like, Okay, I should be hanging
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: out with him and playing with him and teaching him
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: something and you know, doing all these other things instead
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: of like making him watch me work out right, it's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: so selfish, you know, the mom guilt and all those
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: like whatever things that people say, but like you make
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it fun for them, Like you, it's it's not so serious.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: It's just fitness, like you can, I'll have funny.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that you've made this a priority for
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: yourself because you know it's important for your family. But then,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: in speaking of things that you're making a priority for yourself,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: like you said, you're all over the place, and so
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: you're figuring out right now how to do as much
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: as possible. I don't want to say do it all,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: because you can't do it all, but you are putting
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: in a lot of effort to be as many places
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: as you can while showing up for your family. Talk
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: to me a little bit about how that transition has
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: been for you.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Well, here's what I'll say about my son. First of all,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: my son is like a miracle baby. I mean, like
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: all babies are miracles, but he's literally he's a product
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: of multiple years and three rounds of IUI and four
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: rounds of IBF.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: We went through a lot to have him.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And when I was going through all of that, I
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: at work was the ultimate yes girl. I said yes
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: to every trip and every interview and literally everything, because
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: women's sports was like my lifeline, Like that was my passion.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: That was like my saving grace, the thing that got
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: me excited to like get out the door every day.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And so it's funny because so many of the things
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: that we've been talking about that I've worked on or
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: whatever are like a product of that time in my life.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: And what's been interesting and sort of difficult about this
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: transition into now having him is that now I can't
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: say yes to everything, and that's become part of like
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: who I am, right Like I want to be everywhere.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I know how fun like every championship and All Star
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Weekend and everything. I know how fun it is and
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: how much great content comes of that and interviews, and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I want to do it all still but I also
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: like need to be with him right now, like he's
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: he's my priority now.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: So I have been my word.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: For twenty twenty six, Like my word of the year
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: is no. Oh, I am being much more selective with
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: what I say yes to and the stories that I
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: take on. You know, I can't do the all night
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: writing grind that I've used to, and I love I
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: love that, but yeah, I've had to be a lot
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: more selective. I'm very grateful that we are now, our
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: coverage is now in a place where we can be
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: more selective about what we do. But like I want
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: to cover everything. I want to write about everyone, like,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: especially because women's sports deserves it. So that's been a
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: challenge for sure.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Aside from it being a challenge, how have you been
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: able to offer yourself some grace knowing that you have
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: multiple priorities.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm still working on it. Honestly, You're always
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: going to feel like you're not one hundred percent in something,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and that is I'm still working through how to.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: How to tackle that. To be totally honest, I yeah,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: I I don't know.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean, and I think that is like
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: a completely relatable and understandable experience, right because whether it's
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: a child, or whether it's wanting to show up for
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: other family members or friends, or just multiple obligations and
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: works in the way, and there's just so many different
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: factors in the equation. Everyone's trying to do the best
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: they can at any given time. It's that recognition that
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: you are going into a situation with the best intentions.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: That's what I find for me is my north star.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: It's like, totally, I know, I'm truly trying to do
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: the best I can with what I have, and there
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: are going to be moments that I might quote unquote
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: fall short in one arena, but the goal is just
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: never to let any of the buckets run dry.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, totally, And that's like I mean not to get
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you know whatever. But that's like something I've talked about
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a lot in therapy and it is like, really that
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: has been helpful to me is to remember, like I
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: really am doing the best I can.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: I try not to Like I always.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Especially when I was going through in fertility, I never
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: liked people to create this idea that like your time
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: is more valuable because you have a kid, or you know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: you can be excused from not being one hundred percent
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: there because you have a kid. I don't think that's
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: fair necessarily, So I really try to like bring my
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: best self to everything while also like understanding that I
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: can say no and I can, you know, pull out
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: of things I used to maybe say yes too, and
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that has to be like my new standard.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my new standard. This is how it is now.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: It's different than five minutes ago, and it's going to
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: be different five minutes from now for you as you're
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: embracing this new standard.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I actually really appreciate.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Your opening up about the fertility. I think that that
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: is something that is certainly not talked about enough. I
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: have so many after I froze my eggs, I felt
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: like I had like four other friends that did the
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: same thing within a month and a half, and it
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: just becomes a height end awareness when it's something that
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: you're going through. You mentioned going to therapy during that time.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: It's almost like I want to ask you how you
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: kept showing up when it felt really difficult, because going
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: through IUI, you said three times and then multiple rounds
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: of IVF.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: It's not easy.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, therapy certainly helps. I'm very glad that
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I was doing that, like I started that practice before
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I got into all of the IVF stuff. But also
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I would say, honestly having other things that I was
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: passionate about, Like it's like what I was saying about
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: kind of throwing myself into work.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: And maybe to.
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: Some people that sounds a little like yikes, but it
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: truly was like I had some that I was so
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: excited about, and I got to a point in my
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: journey where I was like, even if this doesn't work
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: out for me, if we don't have a baby, I
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: have such a full life, yeah, that I will be
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: okay and I will be happy, and I don't need
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: this to complete me, Like this is adding on to
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: my already full life.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: It was so important to me to just do everything
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and travel, Like it's so easy when you're going through
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a down day to curl up in bed and be
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: like I'm never coming.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Out so true.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: But it also for me it was easy to get
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: on the plane and go have fun and live my
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: best life and do my best work and just feel
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: fulfilled in other ways, because otherwise you just let this
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: thing consume you.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And both sides of the coin are so understandable.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: I think it's so commendable on you to be able
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: to take a step out and take a step back
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: and look at your life and say I can be
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: good as I am because I know that that it's
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: truly just such a struggle for so many women that
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: are going through and walking a similar path.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: It's tough to.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Be like, oh, like you know, a couple of rounds
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: in you're like, maybe this isn't the cards for me.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you do sort of have to.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Face that reality of like, at any point this could
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: go wrong. The entire experience is totally out of your control. Yeah,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do to you know, as much
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: as you want to say, oh, these supplements, these whatever,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: there's truly nothing you can do.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: So to get to a place towards the end where
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, if this doesn't work out for me,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I will be okay, I will say. My therapist also
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: like something that she said that really stuck with me
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: was like, if you worry about something that hasn't happened,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: then it does happen. You just worried twice, Yeah, so
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you're really because I'm a big warrior, and she was like,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you're kind of wasting your time girl, Like you're gonna
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: have to go through that pain now and later, right,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: So you should live now and we'll deal with it later.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Like think of all the stuff you've been through already.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll get through it. You know, you'll get through it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: And it's such a beautiful reminder one of the many
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: lessons I'm sure that you learned from that time when
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: you reflect on that challenging hurdle moment.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: What else would you say has really stuck with you?
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: M that?
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I was when we started trying
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: to have a baby, I was like, I'm ready, you know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Like we moved into a new place, and we were
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: like all set up, and we were we were we
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: felt like we were ready, right. But then as we
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: were going through all of this, then you know, work happened,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and the Paris Olympics happened, and the Women's World Cup happened,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and all of these things that I got to do
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and experience, and my husband and I took so many
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: trips and we did so many fun things, and we both,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you know, are worked so hard in our careers and
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: other things. And I just feel like the time of
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: when we did have our son ended up being so
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: perfect and things. You know, it really was a reminder
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: like things work out the way they're supposed to and
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: you kind of just have to let go and trust
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: that that will be the case. Yeah. I think about
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: like if I had had a baby when I thought
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I was going to my whole life would be totally
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: different now. And but it all happened exactly the way
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: it was meant to.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Because he went to Paris as well, right, yea on vacation.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: I saw you pounding the pavement in those streets. You
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: were just running from one arena to the next arena
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: to the next arena.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Like three sports today. That poor guy was like, do
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you want to get dinner?
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: I was like, uh no, actually I'm actually incapable of
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: doing that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Actually McDonald's at one am will be great.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, I mean that was your first experience covering in
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Olympic Games.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: When you think back to.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: That, let's call it to three week period of your life,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: what's one of the most resounding bright memories that comes
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: up for you?
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, bright memory?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I mean that was just such a like hole, late crap,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I'm covering my first Olympics. Yeah, what a dream, Like
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: like people work their whole lives to be able to
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: do this, Like I was very like I've peaked.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is amazing.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: And when you say I'm covering the Olympics, what does
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: that look like for you?
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Sure?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, we had our credentials and basically I
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: was going to as many things as possible, looking for
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: as many good stories as I possibly could. Social content.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. It is such a whirlwind. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: was writing all night and just kind of trying to
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: like get in there in the press rooms and in
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the mix zone. And I learned so much about being
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: like a confident, you know, putting myself out there as
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: a reporter. Yeah, the first couple of days were like
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: an adjustment and then I was like, you know what
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I'm all in and it was pretty It was it
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: was like you were getting like a crash course in
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: like a whole different type of journalism.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, real time.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: And so when you say putting yourself out there, it's
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: it's kind of multifaceted. I'm sure part of it is
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: being willing to be the person that speaks up in
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: a room of a lot of people terrifying positioning.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: And they're men, Like, it's a lot of men, right,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and they're tall, and there's like it's basically I mean,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: it's a scrum. It's like there's a ton of people
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: and everyone's got their phones out there, and you're kind
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: of just all squished together and you're like, you know, simone, simone,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: like yeah, like yelling, just trying to get their attention,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: and that is really stressful. Like I'm very used to
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a one on one interview over the phone whatever. And
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I certainly saw my confidence grow over the eighteen days
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: that I was there, and I was really proud of
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that because I have not traditionally been like an outgoing.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Type of reporter.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: How has that reverberated, you know, in the years since
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: the first Olympics, How has that really impacted you?
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean well now I feel confident going to
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: just about anything. Yeah, there's no quotes. I won't ask
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: you if it needs to be asked, because you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the worst thing they can say is no. But I
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: also learned sort of what not to do again being
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: in a room full of men and seeing the way
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: they can intimidate other reporters.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Don't want to be like that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I want to be kind to the other reporters who
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: come after me, who it's their first Olympics or their
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: first time in the press room or whatever, Like I
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: want to try to be a welcoming face.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Do you remember the last time someone said no to you?
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, people say no all the time.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, It's very true.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: People say no all the time. There are so many
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: things I want to do or you know that I've
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: been turned down, and.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: You know you move on?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: How how I mean, because there's always there's so much
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: There's so much to do, there's so much to cover.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I don't really have time to dwell on a no
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: because I have my to do list is so long,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: and my list of like people that I want to
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: talk to and write about and cover and feature.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Is so long.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that I can move on to the next.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Thing, knowing that if I feel really passionate about getting
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: something specific, I will come back to it and I
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: will make you say yes.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: And that's probably part of the reverberation of that confidence
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: that you started to build upon in Paris.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: I would say, so.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of it is like just being
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: in the room, making the effort to be there and
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: show that, like women's health is coming to these spaces
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and we're serious, and we want to cover this just
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: like any other outlet and really kind of proving ourselves
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: in the women's sports space. And I take that very seriously.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like if I get to
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: know now, maybe the work that I do in the
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: next week or the next month will be the thing
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: that that person sees and says, yeah, maybe I should
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: give her a.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Yues Yeah, maybe I should give her a yes, or
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: maybe I should give Women's health a follow. Which again,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: as we talk, as we talk about the payoff of
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: all of this work, it must feel quite rewarding, as
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: you so beautifully articulated. I mean, you're doing this kind
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: of as a one man band, and that's a lot
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: of pressure.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: It is, but it also isn't Like what's kind of
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: nice about it is that I and I don't want
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: to say I do anything alone. I mean, we have
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: an incredible team. Our art team is absolutely amazing. Our
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: executive editor Abby, who you know, is like ed its
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: every single thing I write and it makes me so
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: much better.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: And we have a fantastic video.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Team and all of these and social team and all
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: these things that.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Help it all come together.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't feel like pressure because I kind of
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: like it's just me right, Like I can kind of
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: make it what I want. It's like what I'm saying before,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like I have the beautiful opportunity to just
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: try things and see what works. So I kind of
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: take that pressure off of myself, which maybe is you know,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: in media, obviously there's goals you have to hit, and
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: there's traffic, and there's sales.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: And all these things.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: But I really firmly believe that if you just make
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the stuff you really believe in and you are passionate
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: about that, that it comes through. And like, like, if
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: you don't want to read it, why is anyone else
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: going to want to read it? So I'm making the
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: stuff that I just feel like should be out there
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: that I feel like is missing.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: And what a dope opportunity that is.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Again, it just makes me so happy to hear you
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: talk about this, And I'm giggling in my head thinking
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: about when we crossed paths in Phoenix and you were
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: working on a voiceover for a video and you were like, this.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Is not in the wheelhouse.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is not in the wheelhouse. I
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: was like, well, I cannot do it for you, so
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: it must be in the wheelhouse.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I really had to pull that out of somewhere. I
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: have been pulled out of my comfort zone so many
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: times this job, I mean, like doing our podcast, the huddle,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: not hurdle, the huddle doing, but doing our podcast has
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: been totally out of the comfort zone for me.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: What is it about that that feels so left field?
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Well, just a new platform. I have never been, you know,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: the person that does this. I've always been the social person,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the person that's behind the phone or behind the camera.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: But it's really exciting to get to talk about sports
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and well, as we say in our podcast, sports sweat
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and everything in between. It's really fun to get to
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: talk about those things, like in a new environment.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: What would you say the most challenging part of that process,
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: of the podcasting process is for.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: You ooh, well, well, I would say that interviewing on
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: a podcast, as you know, is different than interviewing for
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: a digital story or for social media. And I tend
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like I lean on my like knowledge
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: of what goes quote unquote viral, and you kind of
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: have to use a different part of your your brain
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: when you're when you're doing each of these platforms and medms.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: So we're learning as we go, but so far it's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: been really fun.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: We're learning as we go, and you've had some pretty
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: stellar guests so far.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Are you kind of losing it in the chair.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: A little bit?
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: We've had Hillary Knight from the women's hockey team. We've
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: had Alana Meyers, Taylor the Bob's Letter. We had this
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: incredible episode with Kara Swisher, who has been on this
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: like crusade to like take down the longevity bros. And No,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: that's needed. So that was a really fun conversation. We
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: have We've just shot some that I can't wait for
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you to see. But yeah, it's been really, really fun
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: and it's fun to connect with people in this way.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: And Gabrielle Lyon recently, Yes, oh my.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: God, she's the best talking about you know, how important
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: muscle is and to your overall like life span, and yeah,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I've learned so much from doing this. Also, like I'm
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: so in the sports world that when we have the
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: health like the health focused people on, I am just
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: sitting there like, oh my god.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a total light bulb moment.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you must feel like that every day.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: I definitely feel I feel super fortunate to be able
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: to learn from so many people that I'm inspired by.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: And to your point earlier about am I asking the
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: questions that I would want to know, I'm always going
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: back to that, and I think that is also a
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: big part of the reason why I don't believe that
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: there is anything like a small question, because if I'm
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: sitting here wondering something, yeah, someone else listening to this
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: right now is probably wondering the exact same thing. I
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: find that oftentimes people choose not to ask a question
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: because they might be worried that it's silly or dumb
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: or they should know.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I have no ego.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: I'm okay if I'm just sitting here and I'm like,
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know the answer at all.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like how I felt. I mean, that's how
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I feel in the mix zone at the Olympics. That's
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: how I sometimes feel on the podcast. I'm like, I
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: want to jump in, but I don't know. Like it's
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: it's really cool to like get out of your comfort
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: zone and be like, no, it's there are no dumb questions.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Here, and yeah, yeah, I've learned a lot from doing that.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: You've learned a lot, and you've also covered a lot.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: What would you say over the last few years, has
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: been one of your most exciting stories to cover.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: M I know, everything is like so exciting, but I
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: think more about like experiences, and I mean, I'm really
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: proud of the package that we just put out in
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: our spring issue called Game Changers, which is like sort
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: of a new way of sports storytelling. We've featured six
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: women who are like moving the needle in sports behind
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the scenes. So they're people that you if you're a
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: sports fan, you may or may not have heard of them,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: but they are like literally some of the people who
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: are making this world what it is, not just women's sports,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: but women's and men's sports. So we have folks like
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you know, Sam Rappaport, who's like a personal hero of mine.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: She's a consultant at the NFL, and she's like the
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: the person who she's the reason why we have women
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL right now. I could not be
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: more obsessed with her, and I'm so happy she's in this.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: We have you know, Maria Taylor, who is on NBC
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and she's been telling like all sorts of untold stories
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: because she says, you know, She's someone who has been
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the first and the only in a room, and so
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: she feels now like it's her responsibility to tell those
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: stories of the other folks. Yeah, we're in that position,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: and so anyways, we've been kind of trying to tell
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: those sorts of stories and that feels like an evolution
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: in our coverage and I'm so proud of that because
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: it's it's less about like who's trending in sports right
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: now you or what is trending, and more just like
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: these women are awesome and you should know them.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: It's really cool to see that this is the first
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: person to do it this way. Theme happening more and
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: more regularly throughout women's sports. I mean, for me, as
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: I sit here, Jessica Campbell comes to mind. Now hopefully
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping she's going to go over to the woman's
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: side of that.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean it would be a big deal.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: But for those of you that aren't familiar with Jessica,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: she was on the show, I'll linked in the show notes.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: But the first female coach within the NHL, which is
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: such a major deal, and we're just seeing more and
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: more of that, and it's just again that through line
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: that we say over and over and over again that
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: in order to be her, you need to see her
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: and less women are afraid of being her.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Now, Yes, exactly, And there are so many women who
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: work so tirelessly behind the scenes like that to create
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: that opportunity for others, and like we should give them
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: their flowers too, Like these athletes deserve all the attention
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: they get, and so do all the women working behind
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the scenes.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: So you said before something that I thought was really
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: beautiful in that I'm gonna do the best I can
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: with what I have while I get to do it
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: knowing that you're in an industry that has a slew
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: of question marks all over the place. When you look
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: at the job that you're doing now, the work that
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: you're doing, Now, what is it that you hope that
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: people see through the work that you're putting out?
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like as a media brand that
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: covers women's sports, we have just as much of a
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: responsibility as the teams in the leagues and the athletes
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: to grow the game right. We care about it, and
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: it's our job to tell those stories because I feel like,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things I love about sports
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: is knowing who the people are and what makes them
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: take and their interesting hobbies and their families and you
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: know the things that are important to them, And that
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: makes me more locked in when I watch a game,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: So to me, like, I want people to read our
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: coverage and really watch the game within through a new lens,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: maybe learn about a player they had never heard of
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: before that they're like, wow, she's I relate to her
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: in this way, or she's got a cool like we
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: just did. We just did a story on Dominique Malanga
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: from the Seattle Storm, who I absolutely love and she's
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: like going to school on the weekends to get her
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: computer science degree, and she also like plays piano, and
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: she has all these interesting things about her. And what
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: most people know about her is just that she can dunk.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: She's six six and she can dunk, and that's incredible.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: But there's so much more to her and that makes
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: me so much more invested in her success on her
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: team this year. So that's what I want people to
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: take away from our coverage is just like a new
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: or a bigger appreciation for these athletes and these women
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: who are part of this game.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: What makes women's health sports coverage different than another outlets
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: sports coverage.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I really think it is that it's
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: not a lot about the breaking news. I think a
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: lot of the other outlets have that covered. We are,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: you know when you talk about like our competitive set
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Our coverage used to focus a lot on,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: like like very literal women's health coverage, like how they
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: exercise it right, how they fuel and all those things.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: And I really feel like we've evolved since then, not
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: that that's not an important part of who an athlete is,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: but we've really gone deeper and really gotten to like
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: the core of who these folks are, and we are honestly,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: we're getting exclusives and we're the only people that are
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: getting that information. We're not really regurgitating sports coverage it's
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: already out there. We're like doing our own reporting. And
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I think that makes it special.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: That makes it special.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: How does that when you when you say, I mean
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: like it's really cool if you think about it. And also,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: like again taking a step back, I'm realizing like there
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: just aren't a lot of people doing what it is
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: you do.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, someone has to do it. Somebody, somebody's got to
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: So when you think.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: About, now, what you're most excited for in the seasons
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: to come, and again we're on the cusp of this
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: WNBA season, but so much more to be amped about
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: right now within women's sports.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: What comes to mind.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely the w I would not be
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: sitting here in a New York Liberty Jersey thinking about
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: anything else. I'm so excited for this season now that
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the players are getting paid and free agency was nuts,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: and like the rosters all look different, it is going
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: to be so much freaking fun to watch. I am
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: excited for the NWSL season which is in full swing,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the PWHL playoffs, and the PWHL Draft where so many
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: of our Olympians who like are like Leila.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Who I know you had to show like they're not even.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Pro yet, Like we're about We're on such a like
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: just on the brink of an insane new wave of athletes.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I'm also so excited for some of the quote unquote
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: smaller sports to have a bigger platform, like volleyball and
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: flag football, which I'm obsessed with and will be in
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty eight Olympics. I think is really having
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: a moment. You know, the Women's Pro Baseball League is
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: starting this summer Athletes Unlimited Softball league. So all of
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: these I feel like all of the growth when you
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: talk about like the WNBA and NWSL and all those leagues,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: that is really like like opening things up for these
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: other leagues to shine, because I think people are starting
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: to realize, like, if you're a sports fan, then you'll
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: love women's sports. It is for you, right, and so
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: all these other I'm just so excited for all these
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: other sports to like get their day.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: It is for you.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: It's for everyone, I promise you. I mean, I doubt
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: there's anyone listening to this who's not in love with
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: women's sports. Yea, But if they're out there, I'm telling you,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: there's something there for you.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: There's something there for you.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Speaking of all of these sports, is there one in
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: particular that you're hoping to get the opportunity to cover
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: more in the next year?
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Definitely, Flag ye I one. I feel it's really important
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and this is like sort of how I've seen I'm
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: seeing this change more.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: But I think it's so important.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: To cover Olympic sports, not in an Olympic year, and
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Olympic athletes and constantly be hyping them up.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, they compete all the time.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they get so much attention right then, and
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: then we kind of like it wanes a way. So
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: flag is an example of a sport that I think
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight, everyone is going to be talking
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: about flag football and I.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: Want to cover it now.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Why do we have to wait? There's so many incredible
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: athletes and women working on growing the sport in the US.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: It's like sanctioned as a high school sport and like
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I want to say almost maybe more than half the states.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: You'd have to fact check me, but it's really blowing up,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: and I just like, let's.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Cover it now. Yeah, I share that sentiment especially also.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: I mean when it comes to track and field, it's
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: like in off years, I'll put that in air quotes
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: for track and field and that there's just not the
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: usual cycle of comp petitians and so so many of
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: the people that the population couldn't stop talking about are
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: now on the back burner, which is another reason why
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: so many of some of your favorite track athletes have
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: taken the time now to start a family.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, totally, but that makes them interesting, right, Like there's
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: so many little stories in the track and field world
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like in that realm, like the runner who
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: lost her sponsorship when she was pregnant, and I'm like,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: we should be talking about that.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, trust me, the people the people are talking
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: the Reddit threads are the running threads feel some kind
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: of way, that is to say the least.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I gotta get on there. I'm I'm like neck deep
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: in WNBA threads.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know of being on threads for any amount
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: of extended time is good for anyone. It's actually just
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: like a wild place to be. But I will say
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: that I have stumbled at times onto really wholesome threads content.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: I had a friend who recently lost her job and
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: I venmoed her for race photos and I think the
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: like I said, check your venmo on thread, she posted
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: a basically the story is, she posted a thread that said, like,
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: I just ran this race. The pictures are in my inbox.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Should I buy them? I don't know, I just lost
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: my job. And I replied to her thread and I
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: said check your Venmo. And I think our thread together
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: got like over ten thousand lights.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Like people were so excited.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: They were like, this is the kind of relationships that
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: we all need like this is so sweet, Oh my god, and.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I'm like it was just fifty bucks.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is what the Internet need, Like, we
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: need stories like that.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: We need more good people kind of joy, every positive emotion. Yes,
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: right now, someone comes to your Instagram page and they
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: see a woman that is behind the scenes, often covering
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: women's sports, for women's health, and also a new mom.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: But when you look in the mirror, what is it
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: that you see looking back at you.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Amanda, ooh girl, girl, this feels like there. I wouldn't
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: say I look at the mirror every day and I'm like,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you go, girl, I don't know if anybody does every
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: single day a year, you know. But ultimately, I am
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: so proud of.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: What I have.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Overcome and what I have the way I've grown, both.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: Personally and professionally.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I truly feel like I can do anything, and that
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: is a really awesome place to be. I'm just like
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I'm a journalist and I'm a mom
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: and multiple things at once. I'm a wife, I'm a friend,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I'm a daughter. You know, all of those things exist
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: in one person, and all of those things make me
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: who I am.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really special.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it has been a really hectic, crazy, wild
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: few years for you. So there's just so much to
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  Speaker 4: be proud of. I like to think, so yeah, you can,
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  Speaker 4: you can be certain in that. I want to ask
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: you this, but I know it's also going to align
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: with the last question. So the last question here is
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: what advice do you have to offer yourself when maybe
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: you didn't have that same perspective when you were going
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: through IUI after IUI after IUI to IVF, when you
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: were asking yourself, who is it that I am outside
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: of all of this pain and frustration? What advice would
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: you offer to yourself knowing what you know now going
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: through that hurdle moment.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I wish I could just tell her that
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: everything is going to work out exactly the way it
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: was supposed to. And you know, nothing is nothing is linear, right,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Like there's ups and downs, and there's extreme highs and
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: extreme lows in work and in life. I mean that's
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: just you know, in everything, but it will all be
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: okay if I think about all the things in my
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: life that I've made it past, and I'm like I
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: can do it, you know, like I got through it
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and I will get through something else. Again, and it's
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I don't wish like an infertility experience on anybody, but
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful that I went through it because it taught
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: me how strong I am. And you know, when I
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: think about all of our coverage that came out of
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: those like three years that we were trying, and all
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: of the things that were going on behind the scenes,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: like getting calls from my IVF doctor in Paris and putting,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: you know, stabbing my butt with progesterone, and the end
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: of US SOLD Championship, like all of those things are
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: so intertwined, and I am just like, man, if you
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: can do that, you can do anything.
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  Speaker 3: You can do anything.
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  Speaker 4: Predictions for the upcoming couple of years of women's sports,
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: What do you got for me? Ooh, well, women's sports Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, about to blow.
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  Speaker 5: Up, about to blow up?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I wish I had thought.
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  Speaker 5: About this before.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, we could have had a couple of
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: hot takes here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay. Predictions for the well, I really
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: do think flag is going to be massive at the
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Olympics in twenty twenty eight. I think everyone's going to
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: be talking about it, men's and women's and I think
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a totally new era for sport.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I also think volleyball is about to become absolutely massive.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: College volleyball is so fun to watch.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: High school of volleyball is the number one sport in
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: the United States. Like it's the most played sport by
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: high school aged women.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: It is, like I mean, and massive.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: It's massive and it is so fun to watch. Like
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I just see it's like I was saying before, I
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: just see these smaller sports absolutely blowing up. What I
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: hope too, is that we see more of the legacy
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: media outlets covering sports in a way that's thoughtful and
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: not just like, oh this is trending. Let me hop
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: on big name, like I really want to see you know.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, these these like red carpets are getting so
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: massive and everyone is trying to cover this now and
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: it's so exciting. But I really have faith that the
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: future of women's sports media is going to be, you know,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: really thoughtful and well researched.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: So women's health is applying for a mech gala cred ANGELI.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you don't want to see me
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: in heels.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: I cannot.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I heard moost people that go to the mecal are
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: actually barefoot.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they probably.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I think they just like take all their shites up.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I was just thinking this week, I was like, man,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: the Mechal is something I probably should do.
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: They got so many athletes.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: There's so many athletes there.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe next year.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: Amanda Lucci, how do the people keep up with you?
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: Where do they find you on the socials? Give us
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: your details?
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: Oh my goodness.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Well, please follow our work at Women's healthmag dot com.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: We have a sports and athletes hub that you can
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: click right on the top of our homepage, and at
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Women's Health magg on Instagram and TikTok and all the
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: social places. Watch our podcast The Huddle, also on Women's
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: healthmag dot.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: Com and I'm a Luci on Instagram, On Instagram, I'm
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: over at Emilybody and at Hurdle Podcast Another Hurdle Conquered.
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  Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.