Latest / KIIS Breakfast / 🤝 Etiquette expert William Hanson gives advice and critiques Amy's etiquette
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Kiss Breakfast.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Here's the world's most famous etiquette coach, William Hanson, is
- 0:07Speaker 2: joining us live on air. You can listen to both
- 0:09Speaker 2: of his podcasts, by the way. I want to know
- 0:11Speaker 2: about this one. Help, I sexted my boss and the
- 0:15Speaker 2: luxury podcast. Wherever you get your pods.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Hello, mate.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Good morning.
- 0:20Speaker 3: Hi, William.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Hello, Beau. Thank you for having me.
- 0:24Speaker 2: And thank you for coming on. You began teaching etiquette
- 0:28Speaker 2: at a very young age. What was your attraction to etiquette?
- 0:31Speaker 2: Why did you get into it?
- 0:34Speaker 4: Well, I'm just quite uptight, so really it sort of
- 0:37Speaker 4: naturally just came to me. Granny gave me a book
- 0:40Speaker 4: of etiquette when I was 12 for Christmas because I
- 0:43Speaker 4: was quite a precocious child, apparently. Hard to believe. And
- 0:47Speaker 4: I thought it was quite fun. And I didn't want
- 0:50Speaker 4: to play rugby at school. And so I was looking
- 0:52Speaker 4: for an excuse of what to do. And they said,
- 0:54Speaker 4: would you like to come teach the young years how
- 0:56Speaker 4: to set a table? This is one of the members
- 0:57Speaker 4: of staff. I said, oh, yeah, all right, I'll do
- 1:00Speaker 4: that if I don't need to play rugby. And 20
- 1:03Speaker 4: years later, no one stopped me.
- 1:05Speaker 2: It's still going for you. In your opinion, what is
- 1:08Speaker 2: the rudest thing someone can do?
- 1:13Speaker 4: Oh, look, I don't mind if people haven't read any
- 1:15Speaker 4: of my books, seen any of my videos, gone to
- 1:17Speaker 4: etiquette school, whatever. If you just don't say please and
- 1:20Speaker 4: thank you, that annoys me more than anything else.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Have you got.
- 1:23Speaker 2: To do both? Because it's so basic. Can I just
- 1:26Speaker 2: say thank you instead of please? Or have I got
- 1:29Speaker 2: to say both in a conversation? Absolutely you do, Mikey.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Well done, Amy. Fine colours already.
- 1:35Speaker 3: William, I am already– my mum is English and my
- 1:39Speaker 3: dad is Aussie, but he liked to try to raise
- 1:43Speaker 3: me with very big, big manners and I was always taught–
- 1:48Speaker 3: to stand up straight with my shoulders back and my
- 1:50Speaker 3: chest out. And he taught me how to eat with
- 1:54Speaker 3: the right cutlery. He always said, I will raise you
- 1:58Speaker 3: so that if you ever have dinner with the queen
- 2:00Speaker 3: one day, you will know the right table manners. Never
- 2:03Speaker 3: put your elbows on the table.
- 2:05Speaker 2: I'm doing that right now. Oh, I've got to get
- 2:07Speaker 2: them off. I don't need adequate training.
- 2:10Speaker 3: I've actually been in training my entire life.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Well, Amy, we're going to see in a moment about you,
- 2:14Speaker 2: all right? So don't get too antsy there. What about, okay,
- 2:17Speaker 2: let's talk about some everyday situations. So let's say you're
- 2:21Speaker 2: on a dinner date. What is something incredibly rude someone
- 2:24Speaker 2: could do?
- 2:26Speaker 4: Um, I think, well, I think on any sort of date,
- 2:28Speaker 4: not asking questions about the other person, you're there, you know,
- 2:31Speaker 4: it's not an interview per se, but you want to
- 2:33Speaker 4: be interested in them. You don't want to just talk
- 2:35Speaker 4: about yourself. You should ask questions about them. They should
- 2:38Speaker 4: ask questions about you. And in terms of, you know,
- 2:41Speaker 4: what you're eating, if you're going to go out for
- 2:42Speaker 4: dinner for date one or two, just pick something straightforward.
- 2:47Speaker 4: You might think, oh, I'd love to have the spaghetti. Well,
- 2:50Speaker 4: if you can't eat spaghetti beautifully, just go back and
- 2:53Speaker 4: And have it on your own when you can relax
- 2:55Speaker 4: and have the spaghetti.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Just pick something straight forward.
- 2:58Speaker 3: Burgers are a no-go on a first date, right?
- 3:02Speaker 4: No, I mean, it's so unattractive eating a burger, eating
- 3:04Speaker 4: with your hands and it all flopping out your mouth and,
- 3:08Speaker 4: you know.
- 3:08Speaker 2: I know.
- 3:09Speaker 1: It's not very nice.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Well, you might bet you eat a burger with a
- 3:12Speaker 2: knife and fork, don't you?
- 3:14Speaker 3: Deconstructed?
- 3:15Speaker 1: It has been known. It has been known.
- 3:17Speaker 4: I did a video a while ago on my social
- 3:19Speaker 4: media on how to eat a burger with a knife
- 3:21Speaker 4: and fork. You know, a big proper burger, not like
- 3:23Speaker 4: a takeaway burger from McDonald's or something. And I don't
- 3:26Speaker 4: think they'll let me back into America.
- 3:27Speaker 1: No.
- 3:28Speaker 2: What about a meat pie? Very famous in Australia. We
- 3:31Speaker 2: love our meat pies. I bet you're doing that with
- 3:34Speaker 2: a knife and fork as well, whereas we just hold
- 3:36Speaker 2: it in our hands.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Yeah, in the foil.
- 3:38Speaker 1: What the dickens is a meat pie?
- 3:42Speaker 2: What's the dickens? I'm sure like most things here in Australia,
- 3:46Speaker 2: it originated in Britain. It's basically minced meat in a pastry,
- 3:49Speaker 2: like a pie. The Pom is one of our producers here.
- 3:54Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 3:54Speaker 1: I'm just, you know. No. I'm just looking at it now.
- 3:58Speaker 1: I'm Googling it. It just looks, we'll just call it
- 4:01Speaker 1: a pie and you eat that with your hands.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Yeah, we eat it with our hands.
- 4:05Speaker 3: You usually get them from bakeries, local country bakeries, and
- 4:08Speaker 3: you squirt a little bit of tomato sauce on and
- 4:11Speaker 3: you just, you either eat it out of the paper
- 4:12Speaker 3: bag or the little tin foil that it comes. It
- 4:15Speaker 3: is very messy though. You would absolutely hate it, William.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Have you ever been to Australia?
- 4:22Speaker 4: No, I haven't.
- 4:23Speaker 1: I'm desperate to come.
- 4:23Speaker 4: We were potentially going to come this year with my podcast,
- 4:27Speaker 4: but for various.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Reasons, we're not.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Yes, okay.
- 4:29Speaker 3: I would love to– I'd love for you to come
- 4:32Speaker 3: and I'd love to get your take on how you
- 4:34Speaker 3: think the Australian culture, you know, does with their manners
- 4:40Speaker 3: and stuff because, I mean– I think we're a really
- 4:44Speaker 3: friendly bunch. I think we're very open to meeting new
- 4:49Speaker 3: people and making new friends. And I think the manners
- 4:52Speaker 3: are still there, but they're very casual. You get a
- 4:55Speaker 3: slap on the back and there's some C-bombs dropped.
- 4:59Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you feel about that, like just dropping
- 5:01Speaker 2: the C-word in public? Oh, mate.
- 5:04Speaker 1: You mean common?
- 5:05Speaker 2: Common.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
- 5:08Speaker 3: Basically.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you feel about that?
- 5:11Speaker 1: No, the C word for me is common. Right. And, yeah,
- 5:16Speaker 1: and there's no other word.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Yeah. What's your perception of Aussies? I know you haven't
- 5:20Speaker 2: been here, but, you know, I'm sure that you've met
- 5:22Speaker 2: plenty in your life. Do you think we.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Have your manners or not? Yes, you're everywhere, aren't you?
- 5:28Speaker 1: We are.
- 5:29Speaker 2: We're definitely popular in the UK.
- 5:30Speaker 1: I would....
- 5:32Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say you are very friendly. I think
- 5:34Speaker 4: you're much friendlier than, let's say, Americans, if we're comparing
- 5:37Speaker 4: Brits with Americans versus Australians. I think you get our
- 5:43Speaker 4: sense of humour more than the Americans. But yes, you're
- 5:47Speaker 4: sort of like us in Britain, but far, far, far
- 5:50Speaker 4: too relaxed.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Right, a little too relaxed. Hey, what about some of
- 5:54Speaker 2: the girls here on the team admitted to going to
- 5:56Speaker 2: the bathroom, doing a number two with the door open
- 6:00Speaker 2: in front of their partner. He's offended. But I want
- 6:02Speaker 2: to know your thoughts on that. I know Nat, our producer,
- 6:04Speaker 2: is admitted to defecating with the door open. Yeah, I'm
- 6:07Speaker 2: proud of it. Yeah, proud of it. Yeah, what do
- 6:09Speaker 2: you think about that?
- 6:11Speaker 1: Horrified. Well, I think she should be deported. Where will
- 6:17Speaker 1: I be sent?
- 6:18Speaker 2: I'm from here.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Well, I guess... You see, in our country, we'd send
- 6:23Speaker 1: people to Australia. I don't know what we'd... We'll have
- 6:27Speaker 1: to send it to the middle of the country.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Take them back to England. Hey, good on you, mate. Now,
- 6:32Speaker 2: stick around. We have Amy here. I have noticed you
- 6:35Speaker 2: started sitting up properly. Yeah, what do you mean?
- 6:37Speaker 1: Sit normally.
- 6:38Speaker 3: I sit like this all the time.
- 6:39Speaker 2: And are you sitting with your feet crossed again like
- 6:41Speaker 2: you always do? I'm sitting cross-legged. Oh, you are? Okay.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Hang around. We want you to judge Amy and see
- 6:46Speaker 2: how ladylike she is, okay? We're going to do that next.
- 6:49Speaker 2: I can turn it on and off. I want you
- 6:51Speaker 2: to be yourself in front of William.
- 6:53Speaker 3: Sure.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Don't bung it on.
- 6:54Speaker 3: Of course, I'm being myself right now.
- 6:55Speaker 2: We're doing that next with the world-famous etiquette expert, William Hanson,
- 7:00Speaker 2: right here on KISS. Good morning. And we have world-famous
- 7:03Speaker 2: etiquette expert, William Hanson, joining us now. You think you're
- 7:07Speaker 2: a proper lady, Amy. William is about to judge you.
- 7:10Speaker 2: I believe he has a series of questions for you,
- 7:12Speaker 2: but you're not rough. You're not a... I'm like a.
- 7:18Speaker 3: What are those animals that can mould to their environment? Chameleons?
- 7:22Speaker 2: Chameleons, yes.
- 7:23Speaker 3: So in William's company, I can be an absolute lady, yes.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Okay, right.
- 7:30Speaker 3: When William is not here and it's just you and
- 7:32Speaker 3: you're an absolute bogan, I can.
- 7:35Speaker 2: You can bung it on. Yeah, right. And your dad,
- 7:37Speaker 2: you were saying when you were growing up and mum
- 7:39Speaker 2: were quite strict?
- 7:40Speaker 3: My mum and dad are very strict and they are
- 7:42Speaker 3: very big on manners. Please, thank you. I always had
- 7:46Speaker 3: to call every adult by their last name. So Mr.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
- 7:51Speaker 3: It would be Mr. Hanson or Mrs.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Blah, blah, blah. William's loving this, I'm sure. And you
- 7:57Speaker 2: were talking about the elbows. Is that really a thing, William?
- 8:01Speaker 2: Can you not put your elbows on the table?
- 8:04Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, don't do that.
- 8:05Speaker 4: It's very hard to eat, to be honest, with the
- 8:06Speaker 4: elbows on the table, and it looks unsightly even when
- 8:08Speaker 4: there's no food. I mean, it goes back to the
- 8:10Speaker 4: medieval times where tables were very insecure. They weren't tables
- 8:13Speaker 4: like we have today, and so food was balanced very
- 8:16Speaker 4: carefully on the table. And so if you put your
- 8:18Speaker 4: elbows on the table, it would tip, and the food
- 8:20Speaker 4: would go everywhere, which is why you don't do that.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Okay, so you want to judge, Amy, mate? I'm going
- 8:24Speaker 2: to let you take it away. You've stalked her socials,
- 8:27Speaker 2: I believe, so you know all about her.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Okay. I feel like- Yes. You like having your hair done,
- 8:33Speaker 1: which is nice, don't you? I do. I do. Yes.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Which is gorgeous. You've got lovely hair.
- 8:37Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 8:38Speaker 1: It's looking lovely on you. Thank you. Okay.
- 8:42Speaker 4: So let's pretend that person, although your father used to
- 8:45Speaker 4: say the queen, it's now obviously the king, was coming
- 8:47Speaker 4: over to Australia- how would you greet him as an Australian?
- 8:52Speaker 1: What would you do?
- 8:53Speaker 3: I would say, well, depending on what day, time of
- 8:57Speaker 3: the day it was, I would say, good morning, Mr. Charles.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Wait, what's his last name? Charles. No, no, keep going.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Do what you do.
- 9:07Speaker 3: And I would say, could I invite you in for
- 9:11Speaker 3: a cup of tea?
- 9:12Speaker 1: Right.
- 9:12Speaker 2: William?
- 9:13Speaker 1: Right. Yes. No. Okay, start the car.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Start the car.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just say, good morning, Your Majesty. I
- 9:21Speaker 1: wouldn't say Mr Charles.
- 9:22Speaker 2: Mr, okay. Thank you very much.
- 9:24Speaker 4: Is there anything, I dread to ask this question, Amy Darling,
- 9:28Speaker 4: but is there anything physical that you would do when
- 9:31Speaker 4: meeting the king?
- 9:32Speaker 3: I would give him a handshake and curtsy at the
- 9:36Speaker 3: same time.
- 9:37Speaker 2: You said handshake.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Lovely, good.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Yes. A very firm handshake, nothing flappy or soft like
- 9:44Speaker 3: how Mikey says.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Likes to handshake.
- 9:46Speaker 1: That's not true.
- 9:47Speaker 2: It would be a very firm, yes, handshake. Throw it
- 9:49Speaker 2: on me.
- 9:51Speaker 4: Okay, that's very nice. Let's sort of go domestic now.
- 9:54Speaker 4: Let's forget members of the royal family. You're going to
- 9:56Speaker 4: someone's house for dinner.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Yes. What would you turn up to? up with, if anything?
- 10:02Speaker 3: Oh, no, I never turn up to anyone's house with nothing.
- 10:05Speaker 3: I would always bring over either a salad or dessert
- 10:11Speaker 3: and always a bottle of wine for the house, whoever's hosting.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Okay, that's nice.
- 10:18Speaker 4: I would say bottle of wine, fine, or champagne, chocolates,
- 10:20Speaker 4: all lovely. I wouldn't turn up with a dessert or
- 10:22Speaker 4: a salad unless the host has specifically asked you to
- 10:25Speaker 4: bring that.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Oh, you're going to offend them, are you, if they've
- 10:27Speaker 2: been preparing food?
- 10:29Speaker 4: Yeah, I might have been doing Spotted Dick all afternoon,
- 10:32Speaker 4: and if you then turn up with something, it's a
- 10:35Speaker 4: pudding that we have here.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Oh, right, right. Yeah. And you have meat pies, for
- 10:40Speaker 1: God's sake. You're in no position to judge other countries' cuisine.
- 10:43Speaker 2: LAUGHTER Yes.
- 10:46Speaker 4: So, you know, if you then turn up, I then
- 10:48Speaker 4: feel obliged to then actually serve your dessert when I've done,
- 10:52Speaker 4: you know.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Spotted a trifle.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
- 10:57Speaker 4: And with your table setting, when you've set the lovely table,
- 11:00Speaker 4: if you're hosting your own dinner for us, we're all
- 11:03Speaker 4: coming around to yours. Which side does each person's bread
- 11:05Speaker 4: plate go? The left hand side of the place setting
- 11:08Speaker 4: or the right hand side?
- 11:09Speaker 1: The left.
- 11:09Speaker 3: Right.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Correct. Oh, well done.
- 11:12Speaker 4: Yes, it's like talking to the Princess of Wales.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you, William. Is she dead? Is that
- 11:18Speaker 2: the other one?
- 11:19Speaker 1: No, the Princess. No. No, Catherine.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Oh, right. Yes, yes. Diana was the Princess of Wales, yeah?
- 11:27Speaker 1: She was.
- 11:27Speaker 4: I mean, we've had many Princesses of Wales in history, yes,
- 11:31Speaker 4: but the current one is Catherine.
- 11:35Speaker 2: How do you feel about spitting? I see a lot
- 11:37Speaker 2: of men just walk around on the street and just...
- 11:39Speaker 2: How do you feel about that?
- 11:40Speaker 1: No, yeah, I prefer to swallow.
- 11:45Speaker 2: William Hanson. We love that. You can listen to both
- 11:48Speaker 2: of his podcasts. Help, I sexted my boss. What is
- 11:52Speaker 2: that one all about, by the way?
- 11:55Speaker 4: Yeah, I should just say, I mean, I don't have
- 11:56Speaker 4: a boss. I am freelance. And I mean, I was
- 11:58Speaker 4: single for many years, but I was never that lonely.
- 12:00Speaker 4: So I haven't, this is not, it's not autobiographical, that title.
- 12:04Speaker 4: It is a podcast where my Bogan friend, to use
- 12:08Speaker 4: your vernacular, Jordan and I, he's a radio presenter in
- 12:12Speaker 4: the UK. He and I, it's an agony art podcast.
- 12:16Speaker 4: He comes from his walk of life. I come from mine.
- 12:18Speaker 4: We're best friends in real life. We've known each other
- 12:20Speaker 4: for quite some time. and we present our life experience
- 12:24Speaker 4: to solve listeners' dilemmas.
- 12:26Speaker 3: Yes, I love it.
- 12:27Speaker 2: The Luxury Podcast is the other one, wherever you get
- 12:29Speaker 2: your pods. William Hanson, great to have you on, mate.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Good on you.
- 12:33Speaker 3: So nice chatting.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Thank you, Mikey. Thank you, Amy.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Thanks, William. William Hanson, world-famous etiquette coach there. Our nut
- 12:40Speaker 2: has got a hit of celeb news coming up for us. Yeah,
- 12:43Speaker 2: he is, isn't he? I prefer to swallow. Yes, and
- 12:46Speaker 2: I like spotted dick. I love that ending from him.
- 12:49Speaker 2: What is spotted dick?
- 12:51Speaker 1: He said it was a pudding.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Oh, is that? That's what he said. I'm going to Google.
- 12:56Speaker 2: Have we got a problem with a pom? I've asked
- 12:57Speaker 2: him a series of questions. He's just on the phone
- 12:59Speaker 2: actually working. Yeah. Talking to the listeners, you know.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Spotted dick, it's some dessert involving custard and cake, I think.
- 13:05Speaker 2: Oh, there you go. It looks like a.
- 13:07Speaker 3: Oh, that looks good. It's a traditional steamed pudding made
- 13:11Speaker 3: with suet and dried fruit.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Suet and dried fruit.
- 13:15Speaker 3: Lovely. Suet and often served with custard. It's kind of
- 13:18Speaker 3: like a whole take on....
- 13:21Speaker 2: Yeah, fruit pudding.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, nah. Yeah, people would like that.