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Santa Fe Spa Denies Supplying Massage Therapists to Jeffrey Epstein (5/6/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. Well, it looks like the investigation into Jeffrey
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  Epstein in New Mexico is heating up, and a spa
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  down in Santa Fe named ten thousand Waves has entered
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  the chat. And according to ten thousand Waves, they had
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  nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. But we do know
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  that Epstein love to go to these kinds of places
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  or send his people there to recruit people to come
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  and give him massages. So if there's any evidence that's
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  been uncovered by the investigation in New Mexico that that
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  was happening, then that should be looked at. Now, to
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  be clear, I've never even heard of ten thousand Waves
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  or this spa ever before, so I'm not going to
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  sit here and tell you that it's something that we've
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  talked about or someplace that's been accused previously. But when
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  you're having an investigation like this and you have to
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  go back over all the details, you have to take
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  a look at everything. And according to the reports and
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  more crucially in the files, Epstein certainly had some kind
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  of relationship with ten thousand Waves. Were they sending them girls? Well,
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  that's the question. And if they were, was it on
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  a professional basis or was something else happening. So today's
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  article is from the Albuquerque Journal and the headline ten
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  thousand Waves denies allegations of Epstein ties. This article was
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  authored by Nikaela mcclealan. A Santa Fe spa and resort
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  has denied on social media allegations it sent massage therapists
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  to disgrace financier Jeffrey Epstein's new Mexico ranch after the
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  business appeared in various files released by the US Department
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  of Justice. Social media accusers have accused ten thousand Waves,
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  a Japanese inspired resort that offers massages, hot tubs, and
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  skincare services, as sending messuses in supplying girls to Zoro Ranch,
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  a property Epstein owned in Santa Fe County. Now, look,
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  I don't know. I'll be very honest with you. I
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  have no idea. But if the name is appearing in
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  the files, why was he sending girls to this place
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  or vice versa. That's a legitimate question and was anyone abused?
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  And I'm sure that's what the investigators are trying to
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  hammer down. In response, ten thousand Waves refuted all claims
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  that the business was associated with Epstein in any way,
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  and said the SPA has never provided therapist for off
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  premise house calls. According to a social media post from
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  ten thousand Waves, well is that on an official basis?
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  Did girls that work there go on their off time? Again?
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  I don't know. These are the questions that we have
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  to dig into, though, and if we want to get
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  to the bottom of it, again, no rock can be
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  left unturned. Got to dive in, God, ask the questions,
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  got to do the legwork, and it looks like in
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  Mexico they're doing that. We never tolerate any behavior that
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  would jeopardize the health or safety of our massage therapists
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  and guests, according to the statement. Sarah Bean, chief operations
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  officer for ten thousand Waves, said that she had known
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  since February that the business had been mentioned in the
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  Epstein files, but it wasn't until the end of April
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  that there had been less reasonable implications towards ten thousand Waves.
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  And I just caution everybody to be very very careful
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  what they believe on social media. You have to keep
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  in mind that there is financial incentive for people to
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  push the most salacious claims. That's how they draw engagement.
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  That's how they end up on the Piers Morgan Show.
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  That's how they end up, you know, selling you merchandise
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  and looking at you like a customer. And there's a
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  lot of people that are out there pitching a lot
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  of bs and look, that doesn't mean that what people
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  are saying is always incorrect. There's a lot of people
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  out there that are on point, but you have to
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  be aware that there are certainly a bunch of snake
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  oil salesmen out there that are looking to benefit from
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  the most salacious parts of this story. They have no
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  desire to get to justice. They have no desire for
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  this to end. What they want is to keep the
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  grift going, and if that means making things up, they'll
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  do that. We don't farm our massage therapists out the
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  third party locations or at other businesses. Being told the
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  Journal on Monday, our massage therapists are all independent contractors
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  and we're perfectly happy if they take work outside of
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  the waves. That's something we encourage, but we also don't
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  control what they do outside of work they do here
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  on the property. So it looks like they were independent contractors,
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  right and some of these women. Most certainly, we're at
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  Epstein's house given massages. Whether it advanced past that, who knows.
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  We'll have to listen to what the women say. But
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  words matter, and what being saying here is that these
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  women might have done it on their own, but it
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  wasn't the facility that was sending them to Jeffrey Epstein.
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  The Epstein files mentioned ten thousand Waves twenty times. Although
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  some of the documents are duplicates, a majority of the
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  mentions come from FBI investigation documents and two emails from
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  Epstein where he mentions going to the spa for a massage.
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  I'm going to ten thousand Waves tomorrow at four thirty pm,
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  Epstein wrote in an August twenty fifteen email. Now that
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  doesn't prove anything, right, doesn't mean that ten thousand Waves
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  was part of Epstein's operation, but it does put him there,
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  and I would guess that he was friendly with people
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  at ten thousand Waves, whether it was management, ownership, whatever.
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  When you have that kind of money, you have that
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  kind of power. The people who own the place where
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  you're hanging out, they're going to want to get to
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  know you. And Jeffrey Epstein, well, he always wanted to
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  get to know everybody. That way he could figure out
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  who he could use and who he couldn't. Another document
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  in the files details a transcribed interview between the FBI
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  and Epstein's former chief pilot, Larry Vasoski, in which he
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  describes the scheduled massages Epstein would receive at Zoro Ranch.
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  When the messuss showed up, they were from a professional
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  salon in Santa Fe, asked an FBI agent that was
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  called ten thousand Waves. Is that right? I know that
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  the salon existed and it was famous for massage service. Yes,
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  Vasoski said, I don't think anybody should doubt that Jeffrey
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  Epstein was using massage therapists from this facility. The question
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  is were they just professional massages or was it something else.
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  In one of the documents, FBI investigation detailed that Epstein
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  acquired messuses from ten thousand Waves or by referrals. Records
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  state that there have been approximately five different therapists used
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  in the past, though it's unclear how many, if any,
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  worked at ten thousand Waves. We do our best to
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  create a safe space for a massage therapists and our clients,
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  and we have always done that we were not involved
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  directly in providing any sort of service to Jeffrey Epstein
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  while he was here, Well except when he was at
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  the property, right, didn't you give him massages then? And look,
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  there's nothing illegal about that. Let's be very clear, let's
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  not get too carried away. Now. The question is were
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  any of these women sent from somebody over at ten
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  thousand Waves, because that's a different story entirely. If they
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  went on their own in their own time and they
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  happened to work at ten thousand Waves, well that's kind
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  of a gray area, right. They're not being sent from
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  their job, they're doing it on their off time, their
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  personal time. So is ten thousand Waves responsible if they
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  get abused, Well, that's the question, and I think that
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  it depends. If they were sent there by somebody at
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  ten thousand Waves and they were told, look, you have
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  to go see Epstein work for them whatever, then that
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  was the work event, and I think ten thousand Waves
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  should be held accountable for that. However, if it's something
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  that happened after they might have met Epstein at ten
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  thousand Waves and then the abuse happened at Epstein's ranch,
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  that's more of a gray area. Right, because these women,
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  at least according to what we're hearing here, were adults, right.
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  So they went to Epstein's house of their own accord.
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  But what happened when they got to that house is
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  the big question. Were they abused? Did they just give
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  them a massage? Are there women out there who haven't
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  come forward who might have worked at ten thousand Waves?
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  All questions that need to be answered, right, And hopefully
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  with this investigation that we're seeing from New Mexico, they're
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  going to get to the bottom of all of it,
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  because there's a lot that happened in New Mexico that
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  really was just never reported. And I know I talk
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  about it all the time, and I'm sure you're tired
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  of hearing about it. But Zoro Ranch it was pretty
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  much the key to all of this. And if they
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  would have rated Zoro Ranch, I can only imagine what
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  kind of information they would have found. Look, everybody knew
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  about Epstein's townhouse in New York, everybody knew about the
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  island in Florida. Not very many people were hit to
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  Zoro Ranch. So if you were somebody like Epstein and
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  you had a bunch of things you wanted to keep secret,
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  a bunch of things you wanted, private, things you wanted
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  to keep in as safe or whatever. Which property would
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  you keep them at? I know, for me it would
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  be Zoro Ranch without a doubt. I mean, the place
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  basically functioned as an impregnable fortress. So if I was
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  gonna hide secrets, that's where I'd stash them. But of
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  course we'll never know, because the investigators, the DOJ, the state,
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  everybody at the time, well, they all decided that Zoro
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  Ranch wasn't worth rating. And because of that decision, and
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  it was a decision, not an oversight. That means we're
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  never gonna know what really happened there, and the evidence
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  that could have backed it all up is long go.
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  And now that the State of New Mexico has decided
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  to actually investigate, how much evidence has been lost, how
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  much has walked away, how many people who had evidence
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  have passed away? And of course that's one of the
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  biggest problems that we're dealing with at this point. There's
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  been so much time that has elapsed since what went
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  down at Zoro Ranch and now and with all that
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  evidence not being preserved, it's very hard to get to
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  the bottom of what actually went down, so hopefully the
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  authorities in New Mexico can figure some of it out
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  and try and paint a picture for the rest of
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  us about Jeffrey Epstein and his activities at Zoro Ranch.
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  The question is just how deep and how far are
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  they going to go. All of the information that goes
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