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Paul's new Super Duty, Gordie's angry at ANCAP & the hottest rap track of the year! · The Driver's Show

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Speaker 1: Paul and Gordy can do for you.
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Speaker 2: Cherry you yeah, Cherry's popped there you Cherry Hey, that's
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Speaker 2: why jey guys helloy not even hello.
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Speaker 1: The Driver's Show with Paul Marrick and Gordy Waters.
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Speaker 3: What's on the menu.
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Speaker 4: There's a bit of a Dubai chocolate.
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Speaker 3: Which, oh at the risky move.
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Speaker 4: The old Dubai chocolate for me always makes me.
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Speaker 3: Want to put Donna's nickname.
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Speaker 2: Don't you get me darling, Jesus Christ. I'm like your
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Speaker 2: favorite car brand, Pavley. You know what they say with
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Speaker 2: the Donna when you're blown away, there's no more to pay.
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Speaker 4: Hmm. How are you?
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Speaker 3: Oh good? I can see you still haven't fixed that hair.
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Speaker 3: It is troubling.
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Speaker 5: You claim that it was because you went for a swim,
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Speaker 5: but it looks like you've styled it.
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Speaker 3: There's like a quiff at the front.
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Speaker 4: It's really not do you know what it is?
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Speaker 2: It really is just it's kind of pools it's pool
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Speaker 2: water hair. I've got this new place. I've moved into
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Speaker 2: a new joint and it's quite fancy. I have to say,
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Speaker 2: go on, but go on. Well, a bit of a pool,
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Speaker 2: a bit of a tennis court.
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Speaker 5: Shut up, mate, right right, all right, right, So.
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of like living that life now. You know
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Speaker 2: people people who have tennis courts, they don't do their hair.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting, So is it a retirement village? Is that
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Speaker 5: the vibe mean Trevor have moved into a condo? Jesus,
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Speaker 5: one of those he's testing one of those beds, the
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Speaker 5: electric oncet.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: The house mate, he's always he's always pinching my bloody,
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Speaker 2: my bull cream. It's every time I had a lawn
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Speaker 2: bowls and I'm trying to like make sure my my
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Speaker 2: testes don't get sort of rubbing shaved, shafed bloody.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, where the hell's my where the hell's my
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Speaker 4: bull cream? And I find out Trevor's used it to
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Speaker 4: bat one off.
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Speaker 3: He's come over.
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Speaker 2: Apparently the new Dyson got released and he just couldn't
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Speaker 2: add himself.
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Speaker 4: Construction on this thing.
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Speaker 2: Bloody sucked the chrome off a Toba.
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Speaker 4: God.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, every time I think he's snacking on Lolli's I'm like,
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Speaker 2: what are they He's just he's just like he's just
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Speaker 2: feasting on a.
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Speaker 4: Bloody bottle of blue shoe viagras. He just pops some
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Speaker 4: light mold teesers. Anyway, fucking don't run in the house
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Speaker 4: with that, Trev. You bloody have my eye. This is
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Speaker 4: off to a great start.
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Speaker 3: This is good.
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Speaker 4: This is good.
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Speaker 2: I'd rate this episode if I were you and I
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Speaker 2: was listening to my own podcast, right, I'm talking to
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Speaker 2: the listeners, paplay not to you.
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Speaker 4: I'm talking to the.
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Speaker 2: Listener, I would probably go ahead and just around and
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Speaker 2: just just give this thing five stars, because holy this
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Speaker 2: is a ship show of just stellar automotive information.
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Speaker 3: Speaking of which, let's let's start talking about some car stuff.
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Speaker 4: I'd rather not.
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Speaker 2: Let's just before we talk about we are going to
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Speaker 2: talk about the Ford Ranger super Duty before we do.
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Speaker 2: Is there anything on the horizon it's exciting you, because yes,
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Speaker 2: tell me tell me one car.
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Speaker 3: Two things.
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Speaker 5: Okay, so one that I actually got to see the
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Speaker 5: other day, the BMW I X three.
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Speaker 3: Oh, so this sits on.
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Speaker 5: It's basically what BMW is calling the New Class, which
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Speaker 5: is an inspiration from the sixties when BMW did the
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Speaker 5: new Class and it kind of really supercharged the brand
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Speaker 5: in terms of sales and where it went.
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Speaker 3: And what they're hoping is this.
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Speaker 2: I just paused you there because we've seen this design
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Speaker 2: language of BMW's new Class already yep, and now this
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Speaker 2: has seeped into the IX three.
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Speaker 5: Well, this is the new IX three, So if you
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Speaker 5: picture the new X three, this looks nothing like it.
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Speaker 5: So the new class and this modular platform they've created
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Speaker 5: will spawn something like forty new models, both plug in
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Speaker 5: hybrid and fully electric, and they're launching with the IX three.
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Speaker 5: It'll be closely followed by the I three, which is
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Speaker 5: the electric version of the three series.
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Speaker 3: And I've got to see this in.
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Speaker 5: Person and the outside like it's very striking. And to
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Speaker 5: get the range that they've got out of this, they've
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Speaker 5: kind of lowered the roofline so it has SUV proportions,
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Speaker 5: but it isn't sort of really tall like most other
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Speaker 5: su and it means that they've been able to get
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Speaker 5: in the model that we saw the fifty basically eight
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Speaker 5: hundred kilometers of driving range out of a fully electric car,
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Speaker 5: which is really impressive. Over one hundred kils what hours
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Speaker 5: of battery capacity. But the thing that blew me away
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Speaker 5: the most was the interior. This is on another planet.
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Speaker 5: So they've got the new version of BMW's I Drive
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Speaker 5: OS X, which is basically OS ten.
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Speaker 3: Which is cool. But the thing that really blows your
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Speaker 3: way is.
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Speaker 5: Over forty inches forty inches of screen on the dashboard.
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Speaker 4: Oh sorry it is I thought that was a structures.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, from one side to the other. It is huge.
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Speaker 5: So it basically allows you to fully customize what you
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Speaker 5: see ahead of you, and it acts in place of
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Speaker 5: a head up display, so you can actually have whatever
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Speaker 5: you want up there.
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Speaker 3: Basically, it is just it is out of this world.
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Speaker 5: So I think they have done an incredible job with
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Speaker 5: the interior and the tech. This to me is what
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Speaker 5: new cars are about. Like Mercedes Benz the other week
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Speaker 5: launched the new S class Oh yeah, and I was like,
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Speaker 5: what the hell is this? It looks exactly like the
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Speaker 5: old one. They debuted heated seat belts. It's like, wow, yeah,
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Speaker 5: whooped de doo. Like it is just such a low
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Speaker 5: effort car. And the fact that they had to have
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Speaker 5: so many like influencer types there like Roger Federer and
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Speaker 5: all these other people just shows you.
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Speaker 2: And they were all doing like a happy Birthday Mercedes
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Speaker 2: or something.
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Speaker 4: Did you see that?
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Speaker 5: It was just it really just felt very like just
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Speaker 5: legacy car company and like them genuinely feels like they've
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Speaker 5: given up. So to see BMW come out with this
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Speaker 5: brand new type of vehicle and just so much Yeah,
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Speaker 5: it is just so cool.
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Speaker 3: I'm actually excited by this.
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Speaker 5: I haven't been excited by something new from the Germans
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Speaker 5: for quite some time. So yeah, really impressed with this.
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Speaker 5: I just hope they don't go nuts with the pricing.
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Speaker 5: The previous generation of the IX three came in at
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Speaker 5: under LCT threshold, so under ninety thousand dollars. I really
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Speaker 5: hope they can squeeze in the entry level under that
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Speaker 5: ninety k mark, because if they can, I reckon they're
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Speaker 5: going to sell sell quite a few of these.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that screen you're talking about, is that part of
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Speaker 2: the windscreen I don't understand.
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Speaker 4: Instead of a hare, it.
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Speaker 5: Basically sits Yeah, it sits on this black panel that
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Speaker 5: stretches across the entire windscreen and it's projected onto there.
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Speaker 5: So it basically projects this image onto this black section.
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Speaker 3: And it's so hard to explain it it's basically real time.
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Speaker 5: If you open up the infotainment system and move things around,
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Speaker 5: it follows your finger as you're putting it up there
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Speaker 5: like it is super high end. They've also ditched the
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Speaker 5: eye drive controller that's now completely gone as well, so
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Speaker 5: it is strictly a touch screen for the infotainment system.
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Speaker 5: So yeah, it's just full on. You've got to see
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Speaker 5: this thing in person. It is really impressive.
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Speaker 2: Wow, I cannot wait. You know what impressed me the
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Speaker 2: other day? What I was driving a good On two
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Speaker 2: thousand and four nine.
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Speaker 5: Six oh go on, like a base carera Yeah, base
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Speaker 5: corren Or Auto.
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Speaker 4: It was auto.
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Speaker 2: It was trip Tiptronic, and it was like that was
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Speaker 2: I think that's the only way I'm going to get
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Speaker 2: my missus over the line with with me getting one
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Speaker 2: of these cars, because she she's going to have to
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Speaker 2: drive it eventually.
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Speaker 4: She picks me up from the pub.
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Speaker 2: Every now and then, so she's going to have to
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Speaker 2: drive this thing, and she doesn't want to drive a manual.
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Speaker 5: But the problem is a pre PDK nine to eleven
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Speaker 5: they were a bit ship as an auto, so you
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Speaker 5: kind of have to get either a manual or go
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Speaker 5: to a what was it. Did you say nin nine six?
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Speaker 5: So when did the PDK debut?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was about two thousand.
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Speaker 4: I think it was later.
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Speaker 2: So this is a because this is about a two
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Speaker 2: thousand and four okay, so.
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Speaker 3: That wasn't nine nine seven maybe nine nine seven. Was
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Speaker 3: PDC going to google this?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because my my, my old Porsche had a PDK
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Speaker 2: and okay, and that was actually quite deep larded.
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Speaker 5: Okay, So two thousand and eight in the nine ninety seven.
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Speaker 5: So can you stretch the budget to a nine nine seven?
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Speaker 3: Yes?
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Speaker 4: I think so.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, if you.
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Speaker 5: Can, then I think the auto is fine in that.
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Speaker 5: Then what on earth is what are you? Was a
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Speaker 5: protein bars? Getting my protein in coming from you? Mister
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Speaker 5: three caramel?
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Speaker 4: I think thank you? Fucking went for a.
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Speaker 5: Fourth no comment, but yes, I reckon nine seven he's
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Speaker 5: going to be the way to go.
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Speaker 2: I'm aboud to do an ad because we need a sponsor,
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Speaker 2: and this is the sort of ads that we could
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Speaker 2: do for you.
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Speaker 4: If you've got a company or a bus.
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Speaker 5: By the way, if we need a sponsor, we probably
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Speaker 5: need to tell them to email us at the right
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Speaker 5: place because in the ad it's for the wrong email address.
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Speaker 2: Oh fuck has it really, I'll tell our Bozz, the
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Speaker 2: guy who does our bits and pieces out and stuff, Bozz,
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Speaker 2: fucking can you get that right? That's costing us thousands
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Speaker 2: every single episode, thousands of yen.
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Speaker 4: Thousands and thousands of yen.
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Speaker 3: That's what it admits.
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Speaker 2: Jam and Maw have really tried to contact us many times,
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Speaker 2: have hacked into my iPhone, but they can't send us
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Speaker 2: a fucking email because of you anyway.
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Speaker 4: So can I just tell you one thing.
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Speaker 2: It was so refreshing to jump in his car and
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Speaker 2: just to smell a fucking car from the early two
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Speaker 2: thousands that has clearly probably done some sort of like
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Speaker 2: executive cocaine and all sorts of stuff in it, but
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Speaker 2: the plastic, that shitty kind of early two thousands pluses
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Speaker 2: that the Porsches had.
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Speaker 4: He could hear it creaking, and it was brilliant. I
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Speaker 4: loved it. Not a fast car by any stretch.
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Speaker 2: Fuck it was slow, but it was so refreshing to
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Speaker 2: be driving along in a car that was so well
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Speaker 2: engineered and no warning systems whatsoever on that thing.
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Speaker 4: Zero, Just fucking delight those.
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Speaker 2: I would love to have a chat to the people
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Speaker 2: at an CAP and the people who represent an cap
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Speaker 2: and the people who make up the fucking criteria for
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Speaker 2: selling you what they call a safe car, because the
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Speaker 2: amount of safety systems that I would argue till the
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Speaker 2: day I die, these are not these are doing anything
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Speaker 2: but fucking keeping you safe. I just think like, when
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Speaker 2: you're getting that many confusing warnings and you don't know
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Speaker 2: what the fuck is going on, it is absolutely pointless
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Speaker 2: and it does more harm than good. I wonder if
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Speaker 2: let's quickly ask chat GPT one question, right.
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Speaker 4: Hey there, Gordy bitched it.
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Speaker 2: Can you tell me if the safety systems on these
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Speaker 2: cars have made any difference to the road tolls in
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Speaker 2: the last ten years.
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Speaker 6: I get you on a straightforward answer, and I'm happy
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Speaker 6: to help. The safety systems on modern cars, things like
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Speaker 6: autonomous emergency breaking, lane departure warnings, and stability control have
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Speaker 6: definitely contributed to reducing road fatalities over time.
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Speaker 4: But it's not I'm sorry, I keep dying means no worries.
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Speaker 6: As I was saying, the drop in road tolls over
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Speaker 6: the last decade is a combination of safer vehicles and
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Speaker 6: other factors that are road design, stricter laws, and public awareness.
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Speaker 6: So yes, those safety features have helped, but they're part
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Speaker 6: of a bigger picture.
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Speaker 2: Do you know what I do love about chat JP tay.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to show this to my wife because when
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Speaker 2: I talk.
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Speaker 4: She stopped.
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Speaker 7: The floor.
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Speaker 4: Sorry, please don't interrupt my show. Thank you got it?
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Speaker 4: No interruptions for me.
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Speaker 3: Say later, good lucky with that. Yep.
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Speaker 2: Oh Ford RNA, super Judy, she a big super Duty.
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Speaker 2: Go are you gonna buy one of these?
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Speaker 4: Yes or no?
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Speaker 3: Yes? I have bought one, did just waiting for yet delivered. Yep.
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Speaker 5: So the I didn't get the Taliban Tanna and I
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Speaker 5: got the dark.
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Speaker 3: Green whatever it's called, but it is.
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Speaker 5: I'm getting the style side versions of the one with
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Speaker 5: the tube.
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Speaker 4: Good choice, yep.
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Speaker 5: But yeah, we just drove the Super Duty and you
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Speaker 5: know what I came away with mixed thoughts. And I'll
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Speaker 5: start off with probably the first thing, which is what
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Speaker 5: I said to them back when we first looked at
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Speaker 5: the car. I said that for this to work, it
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Speaker 5: needs to be reliable, like it needs to be a
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Speaker 5: lot more reliable than you know, you go to a
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Speaker 5: range of forum and yes it's going to have problems
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Speaker 5: in it.
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Speaker 3: But if people have problems with.
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Speaker 5: This and it is meant to be a heavy duty.
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Speaker 5: You know, it's in the name super duty. It is
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Speaker 5: not going to have the reputation of something like a
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Speaker 5: seventy series.
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Speaker 3: So I say that from the start.
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Speaker 5: Then I watched a video by four Wheel Drive twenty
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Speaker 5: four to seven where they were testing super Duty.
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Speaker 3: And now, these guys probably go.
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Speaker 5: Beyond what a normal person would do, but in this instance,
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Speaker 5: I think it was at the start of their test
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Speaker 5: they didn't really sort of do anything, and basically they had.
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Speaker 3: The car start shutting down on them.
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Speaker 5: And Ford's rationale was that the alternator was clogged up
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Speaker 5: with mud, and as a result to that, once the
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Speaker 5: alternator clogs up, you end up training in twelve volve
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Speaker 5: battery and then all of the car systems gradually stopped working.
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Speaker 5: Now that's a normal thing for any car, right in
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Speaker 5: terms of what happens when an alternator stops. But you
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Speaker 5: shouldn't have an alternator stop on a range of super duty.
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Speaker 5: It should be designed in a way that that doesn't
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Speaker 5: become a problem. Second, the failure mode of this was
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Speaker 5: just catastrophically bad. While the host of the channel, I'm
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure what his name was.
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Speaker 3: But while he was driving it.
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Speaker 5: It had all these warnings on the screen that he
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Speaker 5: obviously just ignored for some reason, but he kept driving
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Speaker 5: and when he went to pull over, he lost power
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Speaker 5: assisted steering, power assisted brakes, and then the car truck
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Speaker 5: to put itself into. This is like just insanely bad
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Speaker 5: failure mode for this type of vehicle.
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Speaker 3: So and then just before we filmed our.
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Speaker 5: Thing, one of those raffle companies that was giving one
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Speaker 5: away switched their car on and the thing had like
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Speaker 5: a diesel runaway, which happens if you overfill a vehicle
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Speaker 5: with oil. And they threw someone at this dealership under
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Speaker 5: the bus because the car was delivered to them on
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Speaker 5: a tilt tray, and then when they switched it on,
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Speaker 5: it it had this diesel runaway event.
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Speaker 3: Even in that regard your.
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Speaker 5: Car, they should have systems in place that if the
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Speaker 5: car is overfilled with oil, don't start the thing, you know,
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Speaker 5: don't let it get to the stage where it'll have.
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Speaker 3: This runaway event where you know, it can just be dangerous.
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Speaker 5: Like it's just a simple stuff like that. So if
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Speaker 5: you put that to one side, we did a lot
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Speaker 5: of testing with the car. We hooked it up to
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Speaker 5: our trailer, dine and instead of testing at three killing uons,
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Speaker 5: which is what normally what we test all the dual
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Speaker 5: caveats and SUVs, I thought, let's just double that to
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Speaker 5: six because this is the super duty. And basically it
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Speaker 5: sort of did reasonably well. But what started showing itself
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Speaker 5: was that this thing has quite a lack of punch.
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Speaker 5: They've basically tuned the emission system to meet European emissions
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Speaker 5: requirements and as a result of that, it is basically
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Speaker 5: starved of power. It has quite a lot of emissions
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Speaker 5: control equipment on an including ad Blue, and you can
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Speaker 5: really feel that this thing weighs, you know, more than
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Speaker 5: a wild track. And that's before you put the tray
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Speaker 5: on it. You put a train accessories on, you're looking
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Speaker 5: at five or six hundred kilos more than a WildTrack,
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Speaker 5: with less power than a V six WildTrack. It really
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Speaker 5: starts showing itself as being underpowered for what it is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you could have probably would have known
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Speaker 2: that from the moment and jumped in though, right.
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Speaker 3: No, not really. I knew the power figure.
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Speaker 5: I just didn't expect it to be as sluggish as
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Speaker 5: it is, even with no load in it.
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Speaker 3: It feels really sluggish the second you loaded up.
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Speaker 5: We loaded it up to eight thousand kilos gcm, which
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Speaker 5: is the vehicle's maximum carrying capacity, and at that stage
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Speaker 5: I didn't feel comfortable with that much load, and in
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Speaker 5: terms of its acceleration like it felt like, yes, yes,
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Speaker 5: it can move from A to B, but the second
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Speaker 5: we got to our hill climb, it felt like it
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Speaker 5: was really struggling. So I think that they've gone a
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Speaker 5: bit too hard with the emission stuff and also probably
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Speaker 5: detuned it so you get longevity out of it. And
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Speaker 5: as a result of that, it just feels like it
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Speaker 5: lacks punch, which is a shame because the rest of
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Speaker 5: the car is absolutely bulletproof and we stuck it up
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Speaker 5: on the hoist and had to look under it.
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Speaker 3: This isn't just a tartt up ranger.
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Speaker 5: They have really gone to town on this huge load,
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Speaker 5: control arms, a massive diff out of a full transit.
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Speaker 5: You've got parabolic leaf springs, bigger dampers, quite incredible underbody
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Speaker 5: protection all the way through.
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Speaker 3: Protected fuel tank.
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Speaker 5: Fuel tank is bigger and it needs to be because
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Speaker 5: this us pretty much as much.
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Speaker 3: Fuel, if not more than a raptor.
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Speaker 5: So it is a big, sturdy, vehicle, So certainly from
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Speaker 5: that point of view, it's excellent. I just think they've
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Speaker 5: potentially missed a trick there with the engine.
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Speaker 2: I wonder who's going to buy this. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: feel like this is very much a farmer's car. It's
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Speaker 2: positively like a trading car or some sort of a
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Speaker 2: like a trade fleet sort of car, if you know
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Speaker 2: what I mean. But yeah, I'm due to jump in
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Speaker 2: this next week, I think, and I'm looking forward to it.
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Speaker 2: I had a bit of a quick go the other
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Speaker 2: week and nice. It's it's almost like I did feel
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Speaker 2: how sluggish it was, and I didn't toe anything obviously,
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Speaker 2: but yeah, I feel like they got ninety five percent
18:40
Speaker 2: of this car right, But there was just like some
18:42
Speaker 2: really fucking obvious, obvious bits and pieces that stood out
18:46
Speaker 2: and you're like, ah, guys, what what are you doing? Wow?
18:49
Speaker 3: And it's expensive. It is a big old chunk of change.
18:52
Speaker 5: So I think that when you put it in the
18:53
Speaker 5: context of how much work you have to do to
18:55
Speaker 5: a seventy series to get it to the level where
18:57
Speaker 5: it can carry this load and even carry this.
19:00
Speaker 3: Load, but to get it to a level where it's
19:02
Speaker 3: it's useful.
19:02
Speaker 5: As a as a vehicle that is going to be
19:05
Speaker 5: taken out to the bush and used by some of
19:07
Speaker 5: these industries like fire industries and load carrying. I think
19:11
Speaker 5: that's where you really start seeing the advantage of the
19:14
Speaker 5: super Duty.
19:15
Speaker 3: But you know, it is a narrow use case.
19:18
Speaker 5: I think that their sales are probably like, we're already
19:21
Speaker 5: starting to see discounts on super Duty, so it just
19:23
Speaker 5: tells you that private. Yeah, look, they may have sold
19:28
Speaker 5: a few to start with, but I think most of
19:29
Speaker 5: the sales are going to be in the sort of
19:31
Speaker 5: passenger version with the.
19:33
Speaker 3: Normal tray in it.
19:34
Speaker 5: So I think that's what we're going to see this
19:36
Speaker 5: sort of uptick, because you're going to get people buy
19:37
Speaker 5: it for the sake of buying it it being a
19:40
Speaker 5: useful tool.
19:40
Speaker 2: I felt the interior was a little lacking in parts,
19:44
Speaker 2: like you're really getting basic cloth seats, well launched with.
19:50
Speaker 3: What they launched with was the base model.
19:52
Speaker 5: So what is coming is the XLT and that picks
19:54
Speaker 5: up your sort of headed in cooled seats and a
19:56
Speaker 5: few other sort of bits and pieces. They launched with
19:59
Speaker 5: the base model to start with. But excel T will
20:02
Speaker 5: bring some of those creature comforts that some some industries
20:05
Speaker 5: may want.
20:05
Speaker 4: Mmm, so would you get them one? The green one?
20:09
Speaker 3: Yeah? I know what the color is it?
20:11
Speaker 4: And when do you get it?
20:12
Speaker 3: April ish.
20:14
Speaker 2: You can put some little bits and pieces on it,
20:15
Speaker 2: some fluffy seat covers or something.
20:17
Speaker 3: Like that, just a little exhaust. Yeah, nutholder, nutholder salted nuts.
20:23
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I was going to say a nutholder for
20:25
Speaker 4: a year.
20:26
Speaker 3: That wouldn't be much.
20:27
Speaker 2: Get a little tea speech, they'd be salted speaking about
20:31
Speaker 2: big utes.
20:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cherry, Yeah.
20:35
Speaker 3: Cherries popped their ute.
20:36
Speaker 5: Cherry, Hey, not even hello. So Cherry has unveiled the
20:46
Speaker 5: basically their unnamed yute. And this thing looks bloody sensational.
20:52
Speaker 5: I'm going to show you a picture Gordy.
20:54
Speaker 4: Looking at a silver one. Jesus, it looks there.
20:58
Speaker 3: You haven't.
21:00
Speaker 4: Oh look at that.
21:02
Speaker 2: Oh god, it's got the same headlights in it as
21:05
Speaker 2: that that other thing.
21:06
Speaker 3: It's kind of like a Bronco.
21:08
Speaker 4: No, it's like a Bronco.
21:11
Speaker 2: Stop the headlights. Okay, the headlights the car. It gives
21:16
Speaker 2: another one of the front squeezy squeeze. It's not bad.
21:22
Speaker 4: It actually looks all right.
21:24
Speaker 5: So yeah, they're they're going pretty hard with this and
21:27
Speaker 5: they're kind of late to the party, but I think
21:29
Speaker 5: deliberately so because they're looking at what everyone else has
21:32
Speaker 5: done and they want to try and fill the gaps
21:33
Speaker 5: where those others haven't worked out how to do what
21:36
Speaker 5: they're doing. So I'm talking about a half ton YEP
21:40
Speaker 5: that's one of them, three and a half done break
21:42
Speaker 5: towing capacity, diesel and petrol plug in hybrid from my understanding,
21:46
Speaker 5: which is pretty crazy talking about a thousand kilos of payload.
21:51
Speaker 5: The interior looks absolutely next level. So they've got auxiliary
21:55
Speaker 5: switches similar to Ranger. You've got headed and cooled seats, front, center, rear,
21:59
Speaker 5: deer flock. It is like a rocket ship here in
22:03
Speaker 5: terms of the equipment you have inside the cabin.
22:06
Speaker 3: And it's big as well. So they didn't talk dimensions.
22:08
Speaker 5: Today, but you know, this appears to me like a
22:12
Speaker 5: vehicle that sits bigger than a Ranger like it is.
22:14
Speaker 3: It is a whopper of a thing. So this is
22:17
Speaker 3: huge for.
22:17
Speaker 5: Cherry because you know, this this is a brand that
22:20
Speaker 5: has poached a lot of people from other car companies
22:23
Speaker 5: and they're really trying to build this stable of vehicles
22:27
Speaker 5: and having driven some of the recent stuff like the
22:29
Speaker 5: T nine.
22:31
Speaker 3: I mean the value that you're.
22:32
Speaker 5: Getting out of that car, three electric motors, explosive acceleration
22:37
Speaker 5: on thousand k's plus of driving range is really impressive
22:41
Speaker 5: there in terms of what you can do with it.
22:43
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm excited to see what this is like.
22:46
Speaker 5: Launching in Australia late this year. It's just crazy to
22:49
Speaker 5: me that they can take what is a rolling like
22:52
Speaker 5: clay slash wood model that they showed us to a
22:55
Speaker 5: production car within a matter of you know, twelve months.
23:00
Speaker 3: It's pretty pretty awesome.
23:01
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'll be keen to see what it's actually
23:04
Speaker 5: like and how it drives, because it's easier to come
23:06
Speaker 5: up with a concept, but executing it and making it
23:08
Speaker 5: work that's the hard part.
23:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, do we know about off road equipment on the set?
23:13
Speaker 3: Look, it's the car they had on display.
23:15
Speaker 5: It was kind of like a bit of a demo car,
23:17
Speaker 5: so it had beef Goodrich Ko three tires, external reservoir suspension.
23:22
Speaker 5: You know, it was pretty sort of meety. I suspect
23:25
Speaker 5: this is like a hardcore off road version, perhaps just
23:27
Speaker 5: a concept. I think the standard one will have a
23:30
Speaker 5: more sedate setup, but the car that we did see
23:32
Speaker 5: had switches for front, rear and center diflocks, which is
23:35
Speaker 5: a pretty impressive sort of repertoire of off road equipment
23:39
Speaker 5: to be able to get around in.
23:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, what are they pricing this at.
23:42
Speaker 5: We don't know yet, but I think logically they'd have
23:45
Speaker 5: to be starting at about the fifty thousand dollar mark.
23:48
Speaker 5: If you want to compete with a Shark, which is
23:49
Speaker 5: high fifties, you'd want to be within that fifty to
23:52
Speaker 5: sixty price bracket. So I think that's going to be
23:55
Speaker 5: where they need to be, And it's just going to
23:57
Speaker 5: be interesting if you're a mid to be issue with
23:59
Speaker 5: the Try or a Nissen with the new Navara, which
24:02
Speaker 5: bizarrely they've priced much higher than Triton even though it's
24:05
Speaker 5: the same car. I just think that you're going to
24:08
Speaker 5: be struggling if you're one of those brands. These guys
24:10
Speaker 5: are really just going to be taking a lot of
24:12
Speaker 5: sales from legacy car brands.
24:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
24:14
Speaker 2: God, even the Bloody We didn't really talk about it
24:17
Speaker 2: last year, but even though fucking High Lucks debacle, I
24:21
Speaker 2: actually think this looks way nicer than the Highluks.
24:24
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's not hard.
24:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, looks better with a giant bullbar on it.
24:29
Speaker 2: But yeah, actually I saw a really good looking twenty
24:32
Speaker 2: twenty six high Lucks. It had crashed into a tree
24:36
Speaker 2: and it was it was burning. There's no one in there.
24:39
Speaker 2: I just lit the thing on via myself. A big
24:45
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Speaker 2: five Stars podcast, five Starts podcasts.
24:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, run out of cars, I don't have anything? Yeah
24:58
Speaker 4: what else?
24:58
Speaker 3: What we did say? This was going to be quick
25:00
Speaker 3: and dirty.
25:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like you, Just like me with my stupid hair.
25:04
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get my hairself a haircut.
25:06
Speaker 2: I'm going to book myself as soon as we're done
25:07
Speaker 2: with this, I'm going to book myself in a fucking haircut.
25:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, do it? Do it?
25:11
Speaker 4: Actually, I've got some you know what I'm excited about.
25:14
Speaker 2: I'm about to jump in my first.
25:15
Speaker 4: Jacu Oh who Jacob?
25:20
Speaker 3: Get it? Which one?
25:24
Speaker 4: I don't know?
25:25
Speaker 2: The one that's probably like this, not the smallest SUVs
25:29
Speaker 2: like the five J five J five BB.
25:32
Speaker 4: They look good, don't they? They really do look nice?
25:35
Speaker 3: Yeah?
25:36
Speaker 5: Jake, who is under that sort of Cherry umbrella and
25:41
Speaker 5: it's kind of their sort of more premium brand. Cherry
25:44
Speaker 5: is the sort of entry level JKU and a motor
25:46
Speaker 5: and then the sort of more premium things. So yeah, look,
25:49
Speaker 5: I think that I've seen a few of these on
25:50
Speaker 5: the road down They actually look really decent and they
25:52
Speaker 5: offer a really good range of colors as well, so
25:54
Speaker 5: you kind of you really have a fair bit there
25:57
Speaker 5: to choose from.
25:59
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm to bring this up really quickly. There's going
26:01
Speaker 2: to be like a mid year release of the Ranger
26:05
Speaker 2: Wild Track. They're phasing out the four cylinder we're getting.
26:08
Speaker 4: They're saying a.
26:08
Speaker 2: Slight face left, so I think we'll probably just get it.
26:12
Speaker 4: We'll get a different grill. I reckon.
26:14
Speaker 5: It's very minor. The changes they've made are almost insignificant.
26:18
Speaker 5: But the biggest one is that the end of the
26:20
Speaker 5: full cylinder. That is huge, because you know, the full
26:23
Speaker 5: cylinder was kind of people's go to.
26:25
Speaker 3: They're now forced into the V six.
26:26
Speaker 5: A lot of this comes as a result of the
26:29
Speaker 5: ENVEZ the tax. It's forcing manufacturers to start culling their
26:34
Speaker 5: ranges and it is disappointing because it really reduces options
26:39
Speaker 5: for customers and it means that you are forced into
26:41
Speaker 5: a V six now if it's not what you.
26:43
Speaker 3: Wanted and ironically, that is just going to emit more.
26:47
Speaker 4: I had a V six, I had the wild Track.
26:50
Speaker 4: What do you call it? The fucking hybrid? Oh, it's such.
26:54
Speaker 2: A Again, this goes back to like they nailed it
26:57
Speaker 2: ninety five percent of the way. But why they Why
27:00
Speaker 2: you're paying extra for this hybrid that does forty five
27:03
Speaker 2: k's and that's generous, It's silly. I mean, the only
27:07
Speaker 2: thing is the only good thing I was thinking of
27:09
Speaker 2: the positives is maybe the outboard power that you've got.
27:15
Speaker 5: I mean, that stuff is fantastic because you can then
27:17
Speaker 5: run the engine as a generator. Yeah, the problem is
27:20
Speaker 5: the generator is going to kick on pretty early if
27:22
Speaker 5: you really sucking the juice out of it, because the
27:24
Speaker 5: battery is so small. So it is just a bizarre
27:27
Speaker 5: choice to design it the way they did, and I
27:29
Speaker 5: think that they probably made a mistake. They didn't know
27:31
Speaker 5: what the rest of the Chinese competitors were going to
27:34
Speaker 5: be doing, and I think they've been caught napping with this.
27:36
Speaker 5: It is expensive, it's under resourced in terms of battery.
27:41
Speaker 5: It's just a weird choice.
27:42
Speaker 2: And doesn't really serve too much of a purpose. Like
27:45
Speaker 2: to put it in perspective, I took this up to
27:47
Speaker 2: Port Macquarie started like, I'm driving out of Sydney within
27:50
Speaker 2: twenty five minutes half an hour that battery and I
27:54
Speaker 2: wasn't going on full evmode at all.
27:55
Speaker 4: I was just going in full hybrid mode. That fucking
27:57
Speaker 4: battery had drained the time.
28:00
Speaker 2: I was just I'm not going to stop and pull
28:03
Speaker 2: over and charge that pissy little battery. So most of
28:06
Speaker 2: the time I was just getting around in whatever was
28:09
Speaker 2: left of that engine. I mean it was great. I
28:11
Speaker 2: drove it on the SAD. I had fucking lots of
28:13
Speaker 2: fun in that car. I love I love the Rangers.
28:15
Speaker 2: But again, just a weird, weird choice. I'll tell you
28:19
Speaker 2: what's bloody good. You know the little flexi brackets that
28:22
Speaker 2: that one has and it comes in the oh yes, premium.
28:25
Speaker 2: Those flexi brackets are great.
28:27
Speaker 5: They were designed and engineered here in Australia, which is great,
28:30
Speaker 5: so an Australian engineer basically designed them. They have the
28:35
Speaker 5: patent for it, and I think that system is sensational
28:38
Speaker 5: for people who don't know what it is. It's basically
28:39
Speaker 5: a sports bar that using one hand you can pull
28:43
Speaker 5: to the back of the vehicle and it will act
28:46
Speaker 5: as effectively a ladder rack. So it means you don't
28:48
Speaker 5: need to have this ungainly hoop at the back of
28:50
Speaker 5: your yout. You just pull the sports bar back for
28:53
Speaker 5: whenever you need it. It is just a genius system
28:56
Speaker 5: and it's so cool to see that we are still
28:58
Speaker 5: innovating with these things here in Australia. It's not all
29:01
Speaker 5: just you know, importing stuff from China.
29:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I reckon it's worth whatever it is twenty
29:07
Speaker 2: a half grand extra.
29:08
Speaker 4: You pay you.
29:09
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29:12
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29:16
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