Latest / Brian Thomas / AFP - Dems need to end the shutdown now
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- 0:27Speaker 2: forward to having Russ in the studio talk about that.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Also looking forward to as I always do this segment,
- 0:31Speaker 2: because donovan' neil from Americans Were Prosperity joins a program
- 0:34Speaker 2: every every week at this time to talk about stuff
- 0:37Speaker 2: and things and what AFP is doing. Most notably today,
- 0:40Speaker 2: Let's get the government going again. That's the Democrats issue,
- 0:43Speaker 2: is it not, donovan' neil, Welcome back to the Morning Show, Brian.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to be with you. Yeah, at twenty
- 0:49Speaker 1: eight days and the federal government second longest shut down
- 0:53Speaker 1: in American history at this point.
- 0:55Speaker 2: And people are getting ready to start feeling the pain.
- 0:57Speaker 2: I know, the snaps in a notice out to snappership
- 1:00Speaker 2: in sid November. First, they're not going to have any
- 1:01Speaker 2: more money left. Donald Trump says there is no money left.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Lawsuit just filed by twenty five states saying, hey, you
- 1:07Speaker 2: got five billion dollars you're sitting on. Sadly, even if
- 1:09Speaker 2: they win that lawsuit and they allocate that pile of
- 1:12Speaker 2: money wherever that happens to be, Donovan, it's not going
- 1:14Speaker 2: to be enough to even cover the nut for the
- 1:16Speaker 2: month of November, which is widely reported as nine billion dollars,
- 1:20Speaker 2: far exceeding the five billion dollars that apparently is laying
- 1:22Speaker 2: in a pile somewhere in Washington.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's really what we're facing up against. And
- 1:29Speaker 1: you've got talking points coming out of you know, radio
- 1:32Speaker 1: shows and television interviews with Democrats. Who are you talking
- 1:36Speaker 1: about the political pressure point that they're using this for.
- 1:39Speaker 1: This is about policy, Brian, It's about politics for the
- 1:43Speaker 1: Democrats right now, and that's why they're not breaking ranks
- 1:45Speaker 1: in the Schumer shutdown.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Right. Well, let's go down the list. Here. We have it,
- 1:49Speaker 2: among others, Senators Martin Heinrich. Paying our troops gives the
- 1:54Speaker 2: president more leverage. Bernie Sanders, you reopen the government and
- 1:57Speaker 2: we lose our leverage, Chuck Schumer, every day gets better
- 2:00Speaker 2: for us, meaning the Senators, not the American people. Ruben Gallego,
- 2:04Speaker 2: then I'd get just go back to another shutdown again
- 2:07Speaker 2: after this one. Chris Coons. Frankly, this is our only
- 2:10Speaker 2: moment of leverage, and although a very unpleasant tool to use,
- 2:14Speaker 2: and finally we have Catherine Clark Congresswoman. There will be
- 2:17Speaker 2: families that are going to suffer, but it is one
- 2:20Speaker 2: of the few leverage times we have. While they're revealing
- 2:23Speaker 2: their hand quite openly, they know it's painful, they know
- 2:25Speaker 2: it's stupid, they know they own it. They know that
- 2:27Speaker 2: the funding levels have not been reduced. They don't have
- 2:30Speaker 2: any argument that the Republicans somehow gutted government spending and
- 2:34Speaker 2: passing the clean cr from the twenty twenty four funding levels.
- 2:37Speaker 2: I thought that was brilliant from the Republicans taking out
- 2:40Speaker 2: that argument that they of course would have. The only
- 2:42Speaker 2: thing they have the hand to hang on, have the
- 2:44Speaker 2: hang to hang their hat on, is that these subsidies
- 2:46Speaker 2: are going to end. For Obamacare, subsidies that in their
- 2:49Speaker 2: own legislation passed I believe exclusively by Democrats has a
- 2:53Speaker 2: cut off date of the end of this year. Hmm.
- 2:55Speaker 2: I guess this is a Democrat's fault. Huh, Donovan, that's
- 3:00Speaker 2: asolutely right.
- 3:00Speaker 1: They set temporary subsidies to end that have nothing to
- 3:03Speaker 1: do with the funding and function of our federal government.
- 3:07Speaker 1: And I think that's why Republicans conservatives have the moral
- 3:10Speaker 1: high ground in this in this argument and are winning it.
- 3:14Speaker 1: But this isn't about winning the argument, right, Brian. It's
- 3:16Speaker 1: the budges getting to a normal order of business, opening
- 3:19Speaker 1: our federal government so that you know, these benefits that
- 3:23Speaker 1: are promised to individuals in this country are able to
- 3:26Speaker 1: flow to them, so that we can get back to
- 3:28Speaker 1: getting the budget done in both chambers and sent to
- 3:31Speaker 1: the President's desk, so for the first time in forever,
- 3:33Speaker 1: we can actually have a normal budget process and fund
- 3:36Speaker 1: our federal government. And here's the thing too, Brian, that
- 3:39Speaker 1: we're not talking about as well, but starting to come
- 3:42Speaker 1: into focus. We're not getting done because we're stuck in
- 3:45Speaker 1: this stalemate. Right. We've got opportunities to do immigration reform.
- 3:48Speaker 1: We've secured the border through the One Big, Beautiful Bill Act,
- 3:51Speaker 1: but there's opportunities here to further reformer immigration system so
- 3:55Speaker 1: that it works for the people coming to this country
- 3:58Speaker 1: and the people in this country. Already, we've got opportunities
- 4:00Speaker 1: to do more in terms of decisions in reforming government
- 4:03Speaker 1: to make it work better for the people. And here's
- 4:05Speaker 1: a big one, permitting reform. We've got to get permitting
- 4:07Speaker 1: reform done so we can unleash energy abundance and help,
- 4:11Speaker 1: you know, bring down the costs for homeowners as well
- 4:14Speaker 1: as manufacturers in this country when it comes to energy.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Although that's not happening, Brian, because we're stuck in the
- 4:20Speaker 1: Schumer shutdown. That's sucking all the oxygen out of the room.
- 4:24Speaker 2: All right, head caller earlier in the program, and I
- 4:25Speaker 2: think it's an important time to interject this question. Maybe
- 4:27Speaker 2: you have the answer, maybe you don't, But it seems
- 4:29Speaker 2: to me odd if the Republicans weren't in recess, couldn't
- 4:33Speaker 2: they be working on things? Couldn't they be sitting down
- 4:36Speaker 2: and working on appropriations bills or at least maybe making
- 4:39Speaker 2: phone calls. The Senators are obviously still doing their job, well,
- 4:41Speaker 2: not doing their job, but at at least still still
- 4:43Speaker 2: in Washington, DC. Get them out of recess, let them
- 4:45Speaker 2: start working on legislation. Couldn't they actually, is it possible
- 4:49Speaker 2: for them to pass something out of committee even during
- 4:52Speaker 2: a government shutdown? Because they're still being paid their salaries.
- 4:55Speaker 2: They could still do their work and show up in DC,
- 4:59Speaker 2: pass something out of committee, put it up for a vote,
- 5:02Speaker 2: and see what happened. Yeah.
- 5:05Speaker 1: I'm not entirely plugged into the strategy that Speaker Johnson
- 5:09Speaker 1: has in terms of how he's run in his chamber
- 5:11Speaker 1: with this, but my understanding is, and I think it
- 5:14Speaker 1: fits in is right as a matter of policy, is
- 5:17Speaker 1: the House of Representatives got their clean Continuing Resolution done
- 5:21Speaker 1: back on September nineteenth. That was the deal that was
- 5:23Speaker 1: negotiated with Jeffreys and Schumer and a Senate majority leadership.
- 5:29Speaker 1: But then when Schumer started getting unrest from his left flank,
- 5:36Speaker 1: he realized he had to This was a This was
- 5:39Speaker 1: a point where he had to put a put a
- 5:41Speaker 1: stake in the ground and cause the shutdown. What we
- 5:45Speaker 1: need to get done is it's real simple, pass the
- 5:48Speaker 1: clean Continuing Resolution. The Senate has had thirteen opportunities to
- 5:52Speaker 1: pass this. Republicans and three Democrats have joined consistently to
- 5:56Speaker 1: open the government up. That would cause Congress to come
- 5:59Speaker 1: back into session would get these committees moving, And I
- 6:02Speaker 1: think really, as a matter of principle, this is a
- 6:06Speaker 1: clarifying moment for America and for Congress. Are we going
- 6:09Speaker 1: to allow folks like Senator Schumer and the Democrats in
- 6:13Speaker 1: the Senate to use this as a circus to score
- 6:16Speaker 1: political points on President Trump and the new Republican majority,
- 6:19Speaker 1: or are we going to get to a normal order business,
- 6:21Speaker 1: reopen the government with a clean continuing resolution and then
- 6:25Speaker 1: go back to debating and discussing bills with an open
- 6:28Speaker 1: government rather than a closed federal government.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Well, I'm a little perplexed by the idea that they
- 6:34Speaker 2: in insisting on this painful government shutdown, which will become
- 6:37Speaker 2: more painful for a lot of regular Americans each and
- 6:39Speaker 2: every day, that they can score points against Trump off
- 6:42Speaker 2: of keeping the government shut down. Let's review Democrat bothes
- 6:46Speaker 2: required to open the government. Democrats have voted thirteen times
- 6:49Speaker 2: to keep it closed. Democrats refuse to fund government unless
- 6:53Speaker 2: Congress restores left wing projects, and Democrats admit to using
- 6:56Speaker 2: pain as leverage and boast every day that it gets
- 7:00Speaker 2: better for us. Some of the quotes I just gave
- 7:01Speaker 2: you all the all the arrows, all the facts, all
- 7:04Speaker 2: the information points of the Democrats owning this thing, How
- 7:06Speaker 2: in the hell could it possibly inure to their benefit?
- 7:10Speaker 2: And to be a point against Donald Trump, who's screaming
- 7:12Speaker 2: about trying to get the government back open again.
- 7:16Speaker 1: Well a lot of ways, it's it's that messaging war,
- 7:18Speaker 1: right and making sure that that folks aren't distracted with
- 7:21Speaker 1: the dips, dives and dodges that the crabs are doing
- 7:25Speaker 1: right now. And that's a lot of what you're seeing right.
- 7:27Speaker 1: It started out as this is about you know, health,
- 7:31Speaker 1: making sure that we make permanent these COVID subsidies for Obamacare. Well,
- 7:35Speaker 1: then it's about, you know, we've got we've got to
- 7:39Speaker 1: restore some things that were lost into one big beautiful bill,
- 7:41Speaker 1: acts that you know, impacted folks on Medicaid. And then
- 7:44Speaker 1: it's shifting, you know, it shifts every week into something
- 7:48Speaker 1: different that the Schumer shutdown is about. And why of
- 7:51Speaker 1: the Democrats they're looking for something to stick here. The
- 7:54Speaker 1: reality is September nineteenth, Republicans passed a clean continuing resolution
- 8:00Speaker 1: and over to the Senate, well ahead of the October
- 8:02Speaker 1: first funding deadline into the fiscal year. Democrats chose to
- 8:07Speaker 1: shut down the federal government rather than vote for a clean,
- 8:09Speaker 1: no frills continuing resolution, and that they've got to hang
- 8:13Speaker 1: that hat on their heads now. And that's the important
- 8:16Speaker 1: thing of getting out there and talking about this is
- 8:18Speaker 1: that it's a very easy fix, Brian, as you've outlined,
- 8:23Speaker 1: there's nothing to negotiate, nothing to a broker. It's just
- 8:26Speaker 1: open the government, a very simple premise that is being
- 8:31Speaker 1: convoluted in the mainstream media by by Democrats and their allies.
- 8:36Speaker 2: All right, let's just say, for the sake of discussion
- 8:38Speaker 2: that the Democrats capitulate, they open the government back up,
- 8:40Speaker 2: and they continue this ongoing discussion over the extension of
- 8:43Speaker 2: these supplements, which is what the Republicans say they are
- 8:46Speaker 2: willing to do once you get the government open. Now,
- 8:48Speaker 2: do I really believe the Republicans are going to be
- 8:50Speaker 2: interested in continuing these subsidies down the road? Not really
- 8:53Speaker 2: in the Democrats, I think appreciate that, which means opening
- 8:56Speaker 2: the government up is going to end the debate over
- 8:58Speaker 2: the continuation of the subsidies. But do you think, I
- 9:00Speaker 2: think in the back of your mind, or do you
- 9:01Speaker 2: think as a matter of going forward, if it were
- 9:04Speaker 2: to go in that order, the government opens, they sit
- 9:06Speaker 2: back down with the negotiation table. Do you think there's
- 9:08Speaker 2: a lot of Republicans or enough Republicans to capitulate and
- 9:11Speaker 2: give them something in return by way of supplements.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Oh. I mean that's part of how Washington works, right,
- 9:18Speaker 1: That's politics, is a lot of negotiating, debating and discussing
- 9:22Speaker 1: on ideas. Now, whether you know certain folks will come
- 9:25Speaker 1: to the table in good faith or not, that there's
- 9:27Speaker 1: a whole other factor at play. But I think you know,
- 9:30Speaker 1: throughout the process, going back to the passing the one
- 9:33Speaker 1: big beautiful bill at the working Families tax cuts, right,
- 9:36Speaker 1: there were opportunities for Democrats to vote to support of
- 9:39Speaker 1: many of those provisions right that they would say they
- 9:41Speaker 1: agree with, right, no tax on overtime, no tax on tips,
- 9:44Speaker 1: making sure that working Ohioans Americans keep their lower tax rates.
- 9:50Speaker 1: But you know they allowed themselves, they think, to get
- 9:53Speaker 1: tangled up on the areas where there's more disagreement than agreement.
- 9:56Speaker 1: And I think there's opportunities for debate on that. That's
- 9:59Speaker 1: how this works, That's how the process works, and the
- 10:02Speaker 1: opportunity we have now. And I believe it was Senator
- 10:04Speaker 1: Housted who said this at a function I was at
- 10:06Speaker 1: a few weeks back. You know, we can debate and
- 10:08Speaker 1: discuss these things with the government shut down and not functioning,
- 10:12Speaker 1: or we can debate and discuss these things with the
- 10:14Speaker 1: government open and functioning like normal. And that's really the question.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Do we want to debate these things while people are
- 10:21Speaker 1: losing their snap benefits, military members are going and paid
- 10:25Speaker 1: air traffic controllers are going on demonstration and walking off
- 10:29Speaker 1: the job. Or do we want to do this where
- 10:31Speaker 1: folks are getting their benefits, Federal employees are being paid
- 10:36Speaker 1: to do their jobs. D see, police are getting paid
- 10:38Speaker 1: to do their jobs, and our military men and women
- 10:40Speaker 1: are being able to send their paychecks home to their families.
- 10:43Speaker 1: It's real simple. I choose that option. Right, Let's open
- 10:46Speaker 1: the government up and have continue to have these debates
- 10:48Speaker 1: and discussions and see where we land.
- 10:49Speaker 2: All right. I presume that the call of action will
- 10:52Speaker 2: be for our the listening audience to have these discussions
- 10:55Speaker 2: out loud with their neighbors and their friends. Is there
- 10:57Speaker 2: any other action item you might suggest, Donovan O'Neil.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Well, yeah, got, that's absolutely right. Also go to makes
- 11:03Speaker 1: Governmentwork dot com. Makes Government work dot Com. There are
- 11:06Speaker 1: a number of active pieces of legislation that when we
- 11:09Speaker 1: get the government back open to get done, to get
- 11:12Speaker 1: sent to the President, that would prevent government shutdowns like
- 11:15Speaker 1: this from happening ever again in the future. So go
- 11:17Speaker 1: to Make Government Work dot com to learn more.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Donald Neo Americans for Prosperity. I always appreciate what you're
- 11:22Speaker 2: doing for well everybody, and thanks for coming to on
- 11:26Speaker 2: the show every week to talk about these issues. And folks,
- 11:30Speaker 2: it's within your grasp to help out. Get over to
- 11:32Speaker 2: the websites Donovan recommends every week and engage. They make
- 11:35Speaker 2: it very easy. Donovan, we'll talk again next week. Have
- 11:38Speaker 2: a fantastic week between now and then.