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Harper's scare, Tito boycotts ABS, Dodgers SP debate, Trout’s dinger · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: But something to think about are the two best pictures
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  Speaker 1: Yamamota and Roki Sasaki? Because teams are throwing their best
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  Speaker 1: pictures games one and two in their seasons.
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  Speaker 2: Are they the Dodgers two best pictures.
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  Speaker 3: At t Spring training Tour? How we do in Krats
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  Speaker 3: in the.
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  Speaker 4: Sunshine, Todd bother in the lab me in parts known
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  Speaker 4: Brooklyn Krats.
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  Speaker 3: How's beautiful Jupiter?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it is nice.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly all the time that I spent I spent
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  Speaker 1: four games in Jupiter, this entire east coast, So this
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  Speaker 1: is all new for me. Four games in high A,
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  Speaker 1: I sat on the bench and watched games, But this
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  Speaker 1: is all new for me out here. The sun is
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  Speaker 1: definitely brighter over here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 4: They pay for that, they get brighter sunshine in Jupiter.
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  Speaker 4: Todd Father, you want me to show you the schedule
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  Speaker 4: that we've got running from.
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  Speaker 5: I would love a couple of weeks. Let's check it out.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, you want to tell the people on them through
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  Speaker 4: the calendar for the people that only do the the
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  Speaker 4: ear part later on the podcast people, because we've got Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'll give you the rest of this week. Tomorrow is Friday,
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  Speaker 4: so that's the end of the week. That's Mets camp.
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  Speaker 4: Today is Cardinals camp. So we'll talk to some Cardinals
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  Speaker 4: later on, and then next week's a party. We got
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  Speaker 4: a lot running. I don't know if we're gonna look
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  Speaker 4: at it yet, but maybe maybe later. Yeah, we'll look
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  Speaker 4: at it, like great, fantastic, how about this. I promise
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  Speaker 4: you will show it later. Let's charge a damn mound.
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  Speaker 4: Kratz is Bryce Harper, Okay, is Philadelphia?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think they're gonna be fine.
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  Speaker 1: The old the old elbow to the face, ninety two
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  Speaker 1: minter hour speedball, when you thought it was gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a breaking ball, I think it'll be Okay, it's just
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  Speaker 1: a bruise.
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  Speaker 2: The X race came back negative, so exhale.
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  Speaker 5: Those are those are scary. Those are scary.
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  Speaker 6: I mean listen, people are be like, oh, it's ninety
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  Speaker 6: two miles an hour. No, I mean, any any pitch,
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  Speaker 6: even a breaking ball, if it hits the right spot,
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  Speaker 6: it's gonna do some damage to spin on the ball.
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  Speaker 5: Bruises are good. We don't mind bruises, you know, for anybody.
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  Speaker 6: So whether it's Bryce Harp for anybody else, that was
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  Speaker 6: way up there too, and you can see Love Lady
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  Speaker 6: was you know, he was distraught a little bit. He
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  Speaker 6: knew he made a mistake and that's part of the game,
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  Speaker 6: of course. And this ball was really really close to
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  Speaker 6: the chin and it got him on a good piece
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  Speaker 6: of the you know, four arm arm area popped his
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  Speaker 6: helmet off too, as we're seeing here. Scary moment. You know,
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  Speaker 6: lefties got to control a little bit and sometimes it
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  Speaker 6: gets away. But that is baseball. I hopefully he'll be okay.
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  Speaker 4: I think the key that you brought up there, Todd Father,
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  Speaker 4: was close to the chin right eight. I mean, that
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  Speaker 4: could have been a lot worse if it was just
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  Speaker 4: a hair what up down left?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: It was close close to coming problem.
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  Speaker 6: And this is this is this is the tough that
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  Speaker 6: I mean, this is the part about spring training that
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  Speaker 6: you don't like because guys are just starting to get back.
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  Speaker 6: Then you get a minor leader that comes in that
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  Speaker 6: really hasn't pitched. Yeah I'm not I'm not saying he is,
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  Speaker 6: but you get these guys coming in, you know that
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  Speaker 6: aren't totally one hundred percent effective when I mean effective
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  Speaker 6: throwing strikes, and you know some guys as well coming
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  Speaker 6: and you're like all right man. I just want to
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  Speaker 6: see some pitches here, see maybe a little tilt on
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  Speaker 6: a breaking ball, and then boom, one comes up and
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  Speaker 6: in on the chin area.
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  Speaker 5: Scary little moment, but.
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  Speaker 6: You know, hopefully it's something that doesn't happen too often
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  Speaker 6: here in spring training.
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  Speaker 1: When Bryce Harper is going to see lefties, you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to get used to seeing lefties for the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: What do you have to do when you're left and
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  Speaker 1: left You got to keep that front shoulder in and
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  Speaker 1: I know he kind of like he even kind of
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  Speaker 1: like opened up a little bit on it, but that
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  Speaker 1: was because it just last second reaction. But he's trying
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  Speaker 1: to stay as closed as he possibly can this early.
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  Speaker 1: Like you're like, I gotta be extreme with it so
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  Speaker 1: I can stay on that breaking ball. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: it happens, but you gotta you almost kind of want
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  Speaker 1: to get it out of the way. I remember Brandon
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  Speaker 1: Moss used to come into live batting practices. We played
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  Speaker 1: together for three straight seasons, and he goes, he goes,
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  Speaker 1: I want the first dude and live VP before games
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  Speaker 1: even start. I want the first dude to hit me.
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  Speaker 1: So Joe Blanton came in there and Joe's like, what
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  Speaker 1: you want me to do?
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  Speaker 2: What? He goes? Hit me?
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  Speaker 1: He goes, are you serious? He goes, yeah, I have
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  Speaker 1: to realize that it hurts, but I'll be okay. So
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  Speaker 1: Joe's like, all right, cool. First one comes inside and
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  Speaker 1: misses him. He's like, Brandon Moscus, yeah he almost got me.
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  Speaker 1: Next one and everybody, all the fans are watching. They
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  Speaker 1: all go ooh, and Moss is like, he goes, looks
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  Speaker 1: at him, goes thanks.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously always positive, but man, you gotta get it out
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  Speaker 2: of the way. Not the way that Harper wanted to
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  Speaker 2: get it out of the way.
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  Speaker 3: So Brandon Moss is happy Gilmore.
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  Speaker 1: He's definitely three hundred and sixty five more days. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty four more days till next hockey season.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, but doesn't happy. At one point, go into.
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  Speaker 2: The batting cage and just get you. That's what he says.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just giving more detail for the kiddos who probably
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  Speaker 4: don't even know the movie.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, he's a hockey player. He's a hockey
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  Speaker 1: player that ends up playing golf. And then you sit
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  Speaker 1: there and he's in the batting cage after hockey tryouts,
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  Speaker 1: which he got cut by because he's got in a
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  Speaker 1: fight during hockey tryouts and he goes, he goes, stands
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  Speaker 1: in there in a pitching machine and just lets the
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  Speaker 1: ball hit him three.
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  Speaker 2: Hundred and sixty four more days till next hockey season.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's Brandon Moss.
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  Speaker 3: Got toughen up. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good story, Todd father, Do you know any
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  Speaker 4: psychos like that?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, there is a bunch out there, and you always
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  Speaker 6: want those guys on your side.
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  Speaker 5: That one.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you get it from all levels, you know,
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  Speaker 6: starting from high school on. You're like, all right, well
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  Speaker 6: we know this guy's probably not going to play, but
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  Speaker 6: we want them on our side in case it all
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  Speaker 6: help break through. So there are some guys out there
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  Speaker 6: that eat, sleep, drink baseball, whatever sport they play, and
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  Speaker 6: that's the guy I want on the bench when somebody
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  Speaker 6: gets hit or whatever and he's firing up the bench
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  Speaker 6: and that kind of stuff. So, yes, they're out there,
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  Speaker 4: and I do want to point out that Harper's had
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  Speaker 4: close calls and he's had actual calls in the last
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  Speaker 4: few years. So in twenty twenty two, left thumb broken
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  Speaker 4: hit by pitch surgery, returned a couple months later twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty one. Hit in the face, not a serious facial injury,
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  Speaker 4: not a concussion, but went on the IL a month
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  Speaker 4: later with an injured left forearm, and apparently back then took.
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  Speaker 3: Old time to get comfortable in the box again.
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  Speaker 4: So rats, all of Philly kind of holds their breath
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  Speaker 4: for a guy that they love dearly out there, right
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  Speaker 4: I mean, give me the Bryce Harper story in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 4: Aside from the fact that he hasn't brought him a title,
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  Speaker 4: he's no Jalen Hurts, yet.
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  Speaker 1: There's there's constantly, there's constantly you know, what have you
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  Speaker 1: done for me lately in Philly, And he's a guy
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  Speaker 1: that has escaped that he's a guy they don't even
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  Speaker 1: bring up the fact that he hasn't brought him a
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  Speaker 1: title yet he's brought him pretty close. Like he's got
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  Speaker 1: to pass in Philly right now, because he's performed, He's
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  Speaker 1: come through in huge moments in the playoffs, and that's
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  Speaker 1: all they remember. MVPs are cool, but to be on
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  Speaker 1: that upper echelon, to be in that top five, that
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  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore top four.
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  Speaker 2: In Philly he wins.
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  Speaker 1: He wins a championship, He'll never throwne Mike Schmidt unless
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: he wins two championships. But to go from being a
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  Speaker 1: gnat that got a national that got hit by Cole
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  Speaker 1: Hamil's and everyone was like boo Royce Harper to signing
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: in Philly and being what he is in that city,
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  Speaker 1: it's been unbelievable because it is a tough city that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't deal with ups and downs of baseball very well,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna have those. This dude has been nothing
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  Speaker 1: but their favorite. I mean he is he is the
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  Speaker 1: guy there and you see threes all over the stadium
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  Speaker 1: wearing his jersey.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, number one goal of spring training in most cases,
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  Speaker 4: keep your superstars healthy and on the field. Police, I
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  Speaker 4: know you can't control where the baseball's coming from certain
• 9:48
  Speaker 4: pitchers on the mound, but Bryce did not look pleased
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  Speaker 4: with mister Lovelady on that one.
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: The box scores.
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  Speaker 4: Let's run through some things that you might have missed
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  Speaker 4: from spring training. Will start with your boy Todd father
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  Speaker 4: Mike Trout going long. You know, we had some interesting
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  Speaker 4: combos earlier this week.
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  Speaker 3: Whoa nice swing.
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  Speaker 4: We had some interesting combos this week, Todd father you
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  Speaker 4: were in here the other day, but Andrew McCutchen essentially
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  Speaker 4: said he should accept a good amount of DH time
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: if he can just to stay on the field. And
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  Speaker 4: because father time hits us all. What are your thoughts
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  Speaker 4: on this swing? And Troudy, you know, having to look
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: in the mirror and be like, damn, I am probably
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  Speaker 4: a top ten hitter, but I got to figure out
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  Speaker 4: how to stay on the field.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't think we're far from it.
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  Speaker 6: I think we've also heard put in him in one
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  Speaker 6: of the corner.
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  Speaker 5: Spots as well.
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  Speaker 6: Knowing him, I don't think he will would want to
• 11:00
  Speaker 6: do that, but I think he'd be up for it,
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  Speaker 6: explaining I think he wants to be that guy in
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  Speaker 6: centerfield that tracks the ball down. He feels like he
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  Speaker 6: still can do it. I know he still can do it,
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  Speaker 6: but will it be better for him in the long run.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you still got to run, You're still in
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  Speaker 6: the outfield. You still got to find a way to
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  Speaker 6: you know, back up throws and go track down balls.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it's far fetch at all. I mean, listen.
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  Speaker 6: Every every you know, every three four days, put him
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  Speaker 6: in a DH spot I don't see that being a
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  Speaker 6: problem at all. I think he'll be fine with that,
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  Speaker 6: and I think it will only help him. Again, you
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  Speaker 6: are getting older, understandably do you want to be out
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  Speaker 6: there the whole time yet? But you got to understand too,
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  Speaker 6: you want to be out there for the full season.
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  Speaker 6: So I think there's gonna be a lot of question
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  Speaker 6: marks on that. I think there's gonna be a lot
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  Speaker 6: of talks and conversations. And you know, he does he
• 11:49
  Speaker 6: kind of looks a little leaner to a little bit,
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  Speaker 6: you know, not not as big and you know, bulky
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  Speaker 6: as he is. I don't think he'll lose any power
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  Speaker 6: to that, and I think he's gonna be just fine.
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  Speaker 1: I think what somebody's I think when somebody's hurt and
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  Speaker 1: like the narrative is always like, ah, if he just
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  Speaker 1: stays in the field, I think you start to forget,
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  Speaker 1: like what kind of player he is and says see
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  Speaker 1: a homer this early. It puts people who are just
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  Speaker 1: kind of casual and like haters like back in their place.
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  Speaker 1: Don't don't forget he had a OPS plus of like
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  Speaker 1: one forty I think last year. So you're sitting there
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  Speaker 1: going this dude can still do it. How do we
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: get one hundred and sixty out of him? How do
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  Speaker 1: we get the best one hundred and fifty out of him?
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  Speaker 1: Because when he's out there, you don't just fall into
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  Speaker 1: MVP aboards. And he said it before when he's on
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  Speaker 1: the show, like, hey, you know what, I'm learning some
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  Speaker 1: new things, things that will keep me out on the field.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see what he can do because
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  Speaker 1: he's he is, he's a Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean my bold prediction recently was MVP candidate
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  Speaker 4: Mike Trout, obviously assuming he keep in mind on the field,
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  Speaker 4: and that's a reminder that the talent is still very
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: much there. We haven't seen the talent dip off. You
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  Speaker 4: see that with certain players. That has not been the case.
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  Speaker 4: Some guys it's like they can't stay on the field
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  Speaker 4: and you're not seeing the same guy anymore. That's most
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  Speaker 4: players that start to hit that. Not seeing that yet
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  Speaker 4: with Trout, So that's cool.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully he's good to go.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, next up, Chicano debut for the Orioles to scoreless.
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  Speaker 3: I think a lot's gonna be riding on this.
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  Speaker 5: Dude.
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  Speaker 3: Kratzy is more of your crafty six pitch guy, command control,
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  Speaker 3: low strikeout, but should give a very different look to hitters.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes this really works out and sometimes
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  Speaker 4: it really doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: So he was a stud.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Japan Central League MVP, huge, huge year overseas.
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  Speaker 4: I know it's not the same once you come over
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  Speaker 4: to the bigs, but they're really really high on this guy.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I was looking at some of the metric right, like,
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  Speaker 4: obviously it's a low blow guy.
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  Speaker 3: In vert which is the sexy word.
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  Speaker 4: For the fastball, also low vert fastball, so you're not
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  Speaker 4: going to necessarily see this guy punching tickets at the
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  Speaker 4: top of the zone with his heater. But the sweeper
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  Speaker 4: is super super effective, or at least looks like it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be. It's got a ton of horizontal movement
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  Speaker 4: on it, and I'll let you take it away for
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  Speaker 4: the rest. Because we had a pretty good debate last
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: year about Imenaga, to me, this is very different.
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  Speaker 3: I was very high on Immenaga. I'm more lukewarm on
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  Speaker 3: this one.
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  Speaker 1: But he's also not like twenty four, twenty six years
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  Speaker 1: old and trying to like get his feet under him,
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  Speaker 1: Like this is a veteran pitcher, who they brought in,
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  Speaker 1: and he's going to give them innings. He's going to
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  Speaker 1: give them something that they desperately needed. And he's also
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: not gonna be the guy that like, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if Grayson struggles really early, like this is our number one,
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  Speaker 1: there's not that kind of pressure on him. There's not
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: that kind of there's not that kind of expectation. But
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: when we were in Orioles camp, like some of the guys,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: I talked to two of their catchers, Adlee and Gary,
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  Speaker 1: and they were like, he knows what he's doing, Like,
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  Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing, and it it alleviates that
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  Speaker 1: issue of all right, we got to have a young
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  Speaker 1: guy that comes up. Is this the you know, is
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  Speaker 1: this a aging veteran who's not going to stay together.
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  Speaker 1: It really seems like a very solidified spot for the Orioles,
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  Speaker 1: which they needed.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously.
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  Speaker 1: I hope they would they would have gotten another number
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  Speaker 1: one to pair with Grayson, but they haven't yet. Spring
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  Speaker 1: training is still going. They're still dudes out there just
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  Speaker 1: saying but to me, solidifies that four or five spot
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  Speaker 1: for him, and that was something they needed too.
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  Speaker 4: One year, thirteen million bucks for Chicano to be in
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  Speaker 4: the Orioles rotation. Also, there are some teams that are
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: trying to open up relations with players coming from Japan. Again,
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  Speaker 4: since the Dodgers have been dominating on that front. The
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: Cubs done a pretty nice job lately. But Todd Father,
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  Speaker 4: I know the Phillies have been trying to recruit some
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  Speaker 4: players from Japan and the Ools are starting to get
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  Speaker 4: involved here too, So this is a big signing for them.
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  Speaker 3: They wanted to work out.
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  Speaker 4: Well, do you know the last player to sign out
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  Speaker 4: of Japan to make it to the bigs for the Orioles.
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  Speaker 4: It's in the two thousands. Oh yeah, good good, I asked.
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  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure, I asked Todd Father. I want him
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  Speaker 4: to think about it. But it's like that kidding class
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  Speaker 4: is like then you don't pick on him, and he
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: still is like coach Uhara nine.
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  Speaker 6: I would not have guessed that. But yeah, we are
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  Speaker 6: seeing a lot more of this. I mean, these guys
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: are polished, they're well polished, they're trained well, they're respectable,
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: and they can play the game of baseball and they
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: know how to pitch.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: It just seems that you see it all the time.
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: You see a lot of American players go to Japan,
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: kind of polish themselves out, figure some things out, come
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: back a year or two later, and next thing, you know, boom.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: You know, they're starting on another team. Will they be elite, No,
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: not necessarily, but they find ways and they find their
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: niches and they find basically you know, maybe let's try this.
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: They tailor their game to what they need and to
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: be back in the professional ranks. And Japan is no slouch.
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: It's right there with you know, professional baseball. They have
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: some really good ballplayers and the other ones too as well.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: So we might see a lot more of this as
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: we are seeing a lot more come through in the
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: last couple of years.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Yep, let's get to or all this Chapman. You guys
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: both know him well, still feeling it? We don't know,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I know, because I think we're gonna say the same thing.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: What's yours?
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: He's a monster exactly.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I was going to say.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: He can lift monster trucks and probably does that as
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: part of his offseason training regimen. So if you'd like
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: to throw like or all this Chapman at his age too,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: this guy's bringing it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: So he'll be in the Red Sox bullpen for me. Kratz.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: This is the part of Boston that I'm probably most
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: concerned about right now is the bullpen.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: To me, on.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Paper, it looks okay, But I can often be surprised
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: on bullpens.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Bullpens are volatile names that you don't think about at all,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: can suddenly become studs for several years and be high
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: leverage guys.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: It's just on paper.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at Boston's bullpen and I'm like, that could
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: hold them back. That could be the part where they're
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: like they need to trade for some bullpen help at
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: the deadline.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: One of the things we saw last year of Boston
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: was early on their rotation, you were like, okay, Paveta
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Cutter Tanner, So you were sitting there and going, okay,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: beyo's gonna take a next step. They know how to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: get the most out of guys, and I think that
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: in bullpen or in organizations where the pitching staff, like
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: pitching coaches, know how to get the most out of guys.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: It takes a couple of years to really unlock things
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: in the bullpen. I'm not saying from like, Okay, we
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: had this guy for three years. I'm saying, hey, we
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: want to look for this type of picture. We want
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to think of the Brewers. Everybody in their bullpen last year,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: besides Devin Williams was a DFA candidate. What are they
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: looking for? What is the thing that they look for?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: And they're claiming these guys And that's why we don't
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: necessarily know all the bullpen guys. But what Boston did
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: was they kind of hedged their bet a little bit
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and they were like, Okay, we know this this trajectory
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: that this player. We can get this extra value as
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Todd loves it, surplus value out of this picture. And
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: we're also going to hedge our bet and get Liam
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Hendricks early on. So now we have Liam for this year,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: we're going to get a raw to us in free agency.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: They don't need to dip into more of the free
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: agency because they can really get value out of these
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: guys that they're claiming out of the minor leagues and
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: all that stuff.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's usually what I say for Todd father.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: What's Tom Father's two favorite words? Oh, I go surplus value.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: He talks about that with everything in life. Yeah, He'll
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: be like.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: To his kids, it'll be like, give me an extra
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: you know, give me an extra candy bar surplus value. See,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I got an extra kid. I get to take an
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: extra candy bar and get away with it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Now, I'm kidding you.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Go all right, let's get to your boy top father.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Rowdy Tellez is on the.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Mariners, and I think he's going to crack that roster.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Signed a minor league deal, put together a little four
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: hundred thirty two foot bomb yesterday in their spring training game.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: One hundred and ten miles an hour off the bat.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Minor league contracts for Rowdy, who had a really rough
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: start with the Pirates in the first couple months last year,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: but then picked it up until the end of the
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: season when they would have had to pay him a
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: little extra money. So of course they cut him to
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: save that for the yacht. But this dude is a
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: big league hitter.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Still.
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he looks really good. If you want the truth,
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: you know, he's his body looks good. He looks like
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: he's in better shape as well. I think you said
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: it best. One hundred and ten miles off the bat,
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: the bats feed is still there. You cannot sneak cheese
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: past the rat. That's if it's one guy. As you know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: kind of like a Matt Stairs kind of guy. He
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: is ready to rip the ball and try and hit
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: a home run anytime, any place. And if you're gonna
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: try and blowing fastball a little bit up where he
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: likes to hit the ball, oh my, it's gonna go far.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: So he did.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: He looked a little slimmer around on the bases. He
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: looks focused and he's determined. You know, when you have
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: a little chip on your shoulder, guess what you're coming
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: in for a minor league stint. Basically they said, a
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: minor league contract. You're a little pissed. I'm gonna show
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: you why he should be on the big league team.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: And right now that's a good start. His thirty bat,
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: going deep, going yammies, and good for him, man four
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: thirty two. That's the way to start off his spring
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: trading the season.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: They need him, they they need him, they need if
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: the if the Marriners are not going to go out
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: and get guys, they need a guy like Rowdy to
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I'll step up and I'll have my
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: every other good year like look and down here last
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: year he had thirteen Like you sit there and you
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: go this is a guy that had thirty five just
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: two years ago, and two he's kind of like an every.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Other year guy.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: So maybe, especially since it's nice for lefties to hit
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: in Seattle, Like, hey, maybe he doesn't see the angled
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: batter's eye.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Who knows what to ask him?
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: We will definitely get rowdy on the show at some
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: point to ask him about that. Oh, Todd Father, remember
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: the good old days when we would have the cards
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: and the binders. But then they get all messed up
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: and we're trying to sell online and it's just real clunky.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: They really actually weren't the good old days, were they?
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: No, they were definitely not. But now there's a better way.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: The Arena Club has been dominant with this. They get
• 22:54
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• 22:56
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• 23:00
  Speaker 6: everything about that, this new age of getting cards graded.
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: You could display them on your online showroom, your mobile device.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: It's the coolest thing in.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: The world, whether you're buying, selling, trading, or displaying. Arena
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• 23:41
  Speaker 4: In the weeds means not much gets buy ft, but
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: this one did for a couple days.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Then we bring it to the weeds.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: The story here from C Trent Rosecrans from The Athletic
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: on Terry Francona, who basically said, screwabs testing and spring trading.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: All right, So the quote from Ta new Red Skipper
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: was we're not using it in the regular season, so
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: why work on a strategy we're not going to use
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: it just muddies the waters. He basically said that Red's
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: minor leaguers have the green light, but not big leaguers,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: which is the entire reason why we have this going
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: in spring training. Just for clarification, Okay, we've been doing
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: this testing in the minor leagues for years. We have
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: it in spring training so that major leaguers can weigh
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: in on it. Give feedback vote on it, even if
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: the vote is fake and MLB's going to implement it anyway.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: This is to give them some time to actually experience
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: it and say we like this, we love this. We
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: have comments about this, all good, but it's for big leaguers.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Big leaguers are different from minor leaguers. But I'll let
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: the two former big leaguers here chime in in.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: Just a sec.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: One more comment from Tito in the story. He said,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I'll be interested in seeing how it works, but I'm
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: okay with seeing our younger guys do it because they've
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: done it. It's not a strategy for us at the
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: major league.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Level, so why work on it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I don't want to make a farce of anything, but
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: we're here getting ready for a season, and that's not
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: helping us get ready, Krats. We are trying to make
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: the game better. And you tell me, like, would this
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: really affect you? Like you guys are both vets. Did
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: this really affect you if your manager came to you
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: and was like, hey, you're going to be a worse
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: player this year if you're focusing on this thing that
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: is not going to be implemented yet, So don't do
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: it for the better of the game.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, we just had ali On Alli was just
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: sitting right here and he was like, I really don't
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: want my minor league guys doing and I want these
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: guys to kind of get used to it in case
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: it happens. Like you don't want to you don't want
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: to get ambushed by this. You don't want all of
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: a sudden be like, oh wait, we didn't work on this.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Now all we have is next year's spring training, because
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I don't see him implementing it during the season unless
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: it goes like crazy, crazy awesome, but you like an
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: extra spring training, it's not gonna take that much. To me,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it would have helped me because it would have helped
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: me lock into the strike zone, which I wasn't good
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: at controlling the strike zone, So it helped me lock
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: into that and not chase and be like, you know what,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on figuring it out so maybe I
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: can use it in the game and then oh, okay,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: get one of these. Oh I was right, Wow, there
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: is a lot more room out there. You know, I
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: don't need to chase that slider away to me. Yeah,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not in the Tito's camp. I
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: like avoiding distractions, but I'm not in Tito's camp on
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: this one.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe it's just one of those things where it's
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: like his coaching methods. Like, Listen, I have my plans,
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: I have my set schedule. I want my guys to
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: do bang, bang and boom. I'm not really worried about
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: this right now. This is something that is not in
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: my possibilities. It's not a part of my plan. You know, Listen,
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know how to take it, but I think
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: you got you gotta talk about it at least and
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: maybe have some guys try it out for sure. But
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: you know, Tito's been very successful in what he's been
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: doing and where he's been coaching and managing, and he's
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: not going to steer away from that. He wants these
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: guys focused on, you know, finding a way to win
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: games and do you know, the little things to win
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: those games and not find a way to lose those
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: games early and often.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: So this might be a little distraction for him, and
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: you know, so be it. No, it's time to move on.
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: But you know, what he's been doing over the years
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: has been has really it's been successful and at times
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: been very very good. So he's going to put this
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: one on the back burner and and you know, he
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: might just leave it as it is, just you know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: don't know really what else to say about that.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: It's freaking spring training, Tito.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Relax, We're not asking you to dial in on every
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: pitch and freak out and put pressure on people to
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: use the system or not.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: But at the same time.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Todd Father, it's just a casual Oh hey, I think
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: that was wrong. Let me do one of these, just
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: like you wouldn't maybe right if you're like I felt
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: like that one was off. Okay, cool, And even if
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: the Vets use it in the first couple of innings, fine,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: But the other thing is it's going to be a
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: part of our game by twenty twenty six. So if
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: that's the case, don't you want to have a little
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: bit of input, especially from someone who's been in the
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: game for a while. And also if there's any Vets
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: on the team that are like, yo, this is perfect.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Except there's one thing they really need to consider, and
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: it's this, because otherwise it's going to come next to
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: your kratz and you might get a complain about a
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: certain way the system's running.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: The league should go.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Sorry about it.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: You boycotted it in spring training and we brought it
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: there for you. Otherwise, why don't we just implement it
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: now in the regular season. Do you think I'm going
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: too hard? If everybody felt this way and did it,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: then nobody would practice it in spring training and give input,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: and then it would make the league worse. And then
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: also they could just implement it right away. I just
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I think it's very shortsighted in not being a team
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: player with the league. And I would understand it if
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: it was really hurting the team or the development, but
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: it's not.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I was talking to a guy that has played under
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the challenge system in the minor leagues for the last
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: however long they've had it. He's been down there, and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: he's like, there are definitely things you have to get
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: used to it. It's not just the size of the zone.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: It's the cadence of the game, and like you're in
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: that moment you're like, oh wait, you know, even when
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: you're used to it, you're not just like thinking ahead
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: of time, Okay, pitch, oh yeah yeah, challenge like this
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: pitch might be a ball, I'll challenge like, no, you like,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: you have to get into the rhythm of it, and
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I don't understand because you're not gonna see all the
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: things that don't apply in games without actually using it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: So yeah, they should totally use it. They need to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: use it so that so that we can get big
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: leaguers on the Guardians, not just big leaguers on twenty
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: nine other teams, to give their input. Oh no, this
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't work, like we can't see this, or this is
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: a big league stadium, this doesn't isn't the same as
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: a minor league stadium. So I think I really think
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: it should I really think they should use it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: But hey, Tito's gonna be Tito.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: I'm with you.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: And lastly, on a high note, some people commenting in
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: the chat about the beautiful topic bar at the bottom
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: of the screen, which features flowers that extend beyond the
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• 30:23
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• 31:02
  Speaker 4: We'll go over some big boy debuts. Oh there it is.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: See that Todd father. You haven't seen these?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: You like that red, that red smoke in the back.
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  Speaker 5: I like it. All to sign a spring to come.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: Let's go.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Wins.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: You can still bet on wins, folks. It's there for you.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: So which pitcher will have the most wins in twenty
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: twenty five? Top names on the board Zach Wheeler plus
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: nine hundred, Trek School plus nine hundred, Paul Skins plus
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: one thousand, Chris Sale plus fourteen hundred, Corbin Burns plus
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: fourteen hundred. I know where I'm not going, Fellas.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Come on, Paul can win. Paul can win a lot
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: of games.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: He can win a lot of games, but your chances
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: aren't as high looking for a banger team with a
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: big offense.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, and that's my top and bottom.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: That's why it's at nine hundred plus, nine hundred and
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: plus fourteen hundred. Burns and Wheeler. I feel like Burns,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like the Diamondbacks are going to be a
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: focused team. People say, well, they're gonna lose some games
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: to Dodgers.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: They're probably also gonna lose a game to the to
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the Rockies. Corbyn Burns, Zach Wheeler to me, are the
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: are the values on there? They are the huge values.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Nothing against Chris Sale, Scooble. You know, I get it.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I get what those guys can do, but they're on
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: teams that have banger offenses and score for them. There's
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: plenty of games. Last year Tarrek Scouble was coming out
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: of the game winning one nothing. Well, that's not conducing
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  Speaker 1: to the lead the league and wins.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, see, I think you're you're spot on. I think
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: you're definitely there.
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  Speaker 6: I think Chris Sale can have another spectacular year if
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: he's healthy two as well. You can't go wrong with
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: Zach Wheeler. This guy's an absolute stud. He's been doing
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: it for a lot of years now, and he has
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: the same stoic look on his face, and when he
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: does good or if he does bad, he goes out
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: there and just dominate. So seeing Zach Wheeler at the
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: top of that list put the smile on my face
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: and knowing that that could be easily an easy win
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: for most wins in Major League Baseball.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: I like that when he gives the innings, he's a vet.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: You don't have to be careful with him. I feel
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: the same way with Burns. I'm with you, Krat. So
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: if I'm picking one, I'm going Burns because I'm gonna
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: get the value at plus fourteen hundred, so I would
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: drop a hondo down on that one. And ft FAM
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: will continue to remind you about the one and a
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: half mil in guaranteed money that's being thrown out there
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: in the purse this week on those Poker Winter Online Championships.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: It's actually over a several week period. It started already
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: still going for another week or so, so if you
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: want more details, just you can even just go to
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Google and type in that MGM poker and see all
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: of the juicy details. Gotta be in Michigan or Jersey
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: or Pennsylvania if you want to face crafts. All right,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: looking ahead, we got some debuts and some news show
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: how O Tani is going to appear in his first
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: spring training game on Friday against the Angels.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: That's according to Dave Roberts. So that's cool. I get
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: to see o Tani take some swings.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: That's great to.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: See him swing. We saw we saw it happen all
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: last year. He's locked in. He doesn't need to take
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: any extra swings. I want to see Otani on the mound.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I want to see it. I don't want to see
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: bullpens off of plastic turf mound. I want to see
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I want to see the big fellow sling in some
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: rocks up at the up there, and then I want
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: to see him hit dangers.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Agreed true.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Also on the topic of the Dodgers, so they go
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: to Tokyo, of course to play the Cubbies, and then
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: they come back and then they've got their home opener.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: I think it's on the twenty seventh, and that should
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: be Blake's snell, is what some are guessing.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they've officially. Did they officially announced
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: that or no? I think so, but it sounds like
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: it's a snell.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Okay, I think it's snell because you'll have Yamamoto and
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Rookie Sasaki out in Japan, which is kind of mandatory
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: that they have the Japanese pitchers for the Dodgers pitching
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: in that game. Someone joked about that, and of course
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: I Minaga is going to pitch in one of the
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: games for the Cubbies. But on the other side, in
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: that opener matchup in LA. This one is official, and
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: of course it was never going to be anyone else
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: but Trek Scougle starts Opening Day for the Tigers. That'll
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: be their first game of the.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Year in LA. S Google against LA.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of excited to bet on that game. I'll
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: think about it, but I just feel like Gooogle is
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: going to be hopping and poffin and he loves bringing
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: it on the road, going up against the team that's
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: gonna go one hundred and sixty two and oh can
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: he put an l on the hoh against the Dodgers
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Day one.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Scott, this is something to think about. We won't discuss it,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: but something to think about. Are the two best pitchers,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Yamamoda and Roki Sasaki, and the Dodgers because no team
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: ever wants to give one game away.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers are gonna be fine. They can give you know,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying giving them away. I just want fans
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: to think about it. We'll discuss it before their opener.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: But are they the two best pitchers? Because teams are
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: throwing their best pictures games one and two in their season,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: are they the Dodgers two best pitchers?
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I mean no, no in both cases.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: So why are they throwing extra.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Games because it's mandatory?
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: No, the Cubs are the If the cubs two best
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: pitchers are Imanagua and Tayon, the Cubs are gonna go
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: imenagu ti On and then the first two games of
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: the season, who are they throwing I and Tyan a break?
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: To me, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, don't let
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: don't let your don't let your your girth, of your
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: dearth of talent.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Get in the way.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: You start your your top dogs. Right, Is that what
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: you're saying? Or you're not you're not agreeing with that?
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I wanted to run around you start, your.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: Your top guys are going because then they'll be ready
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: to go. What what is that ten days later whatever
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: whatever it is. Yeah, maybe seven days later that they start.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: I think in some cases it matters. But I just
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: I get what you're saying. But those guys both can
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: be top end starters, and.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: Yes, and that's why they're going to go through.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: They're they're mapping out.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Hey, I got thirty starts for each guy or twenty
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: five or thirty five or whoever it is. So I
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: just feel like they map it out. Obviously, a million
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: things happen, they go wrong during the season. You're saying,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: for example, if you feel like your top two arms
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: on that team are glass Now and Snell, they should
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: be pitching games one and two, and then they should
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: be pitching games one and two again because you get
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: to kind of double up.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's what every other team is doing.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: And any team that's saying they're not doing that, I
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: would say they're lying, Like you have to throw your
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: best two guys.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: Scott, imagine something else.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: Imagine getting seven days off in between starts.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: That's how good of a team. Wow, that's right?
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Crazy, I get what Kratz is saying, and it's a
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: topic that's not going to get a lot of play,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: but it's not off. It's just that those two talents
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: are still top end talents. The bigger debate would have
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: been if you know, those two are really clear cut,
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: back end starters, and you're like, oh, we got to
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: pitch him, but you're like, they're not as good, And
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: what if we don't make the playoffs by a couple
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: of games, or obviously with the Dodgers that's a pretty
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: tough sell, but what if we don't get the number
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: one seed or something like that, and we look back
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: and you know, our top two dudes, we're not pitching
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: in those first two games. The case also can be
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: made for rookie Sasaki because you don't know what you're
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: gonna get yet. Do you remember Yamamoto last year against
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: the Padres?
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: That fast game is first big league started, got real fast.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: So we talked about that.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know, and I know Chicago. He's gonna
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: see Chicago. He's be like Chicago, Kyle TiAl does he
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: play on this team?
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Oh different Chicago team, Like he's already Chicago has already
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: got It's one nothing on Chicago right now. I know
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: it's a White Sox, but Rookie's giving up a dinger.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, as a team, as a competitor, you're
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: always looking to put your best team out there, your
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: best pitchers out there.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Probably more of a discussion when we get closer.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what this show's for. I don't hate it.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: And and lastly, on our way out, I'm going to
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: work hard on teaching crats what the word dearth means,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: because I think it means the opposite.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I said it the wrong way again. You had called
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: me on. I said it
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Before a lot dearth a little, yes,