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One on One: Jessica Kiper · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. I am all in with Scott
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  Speaker 1: Patterson and I heart radio podcast everybody, Scott Patterson, We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk to Jessica Kuyper, who played Shane in Lazy Hazy,
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  Speaker 1: Crazy Days of Summer, was Milo's girlfriend. We saw him
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  Speaker 1: kissing under a tree, which shocked Rory and who would
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  Speaker 1: put on a nice dress in case she ran into
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  Speaker 1: jess and she ran into jess and she ran into
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  Speaker 1: Jessica Kuyper as well. Um, so we're gonna talk to
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  Speaker 1: a little one on one, get some behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 1: and let's bring her in. Hi, how are you doing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good, good, Thanks for coming on. When years twenty years,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, I do remember you. I do
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  Speaker 1: remember you. You were very kind? Was I I was kind?
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  Speaker 1: You know? I used to be kind, you know, at
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  Speaker 1: least I used to be. No, I'm really I don't
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  Speaker 1: know you're you're that scene, I'll tell you that. What
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  Speaker 1: an impactful scene that was. First of all, let me look,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking to Jessica Kuyper here. Uh, you were in
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  Speaker 1: a total of like four episodes, right, You're in four
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  Speaker 1: episodes and when we first see you, my literally just
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  Speaker 1: talk about it. Oh, man, that really impacted me. Shane
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  Speaker 1: was used and abused. Yeah, but but I mean I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen I guess because I haven't seen those episodes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just seeing it for the first time. That's the
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  Speaker 1: first time, and I wow, I was shocked when I
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  Speaker 1: saw that episode. But then I realized, Well, it was
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  Speaker 1: a whole summer went by. You know, he was twiddling
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  Speaker 1: his thumbs all summer. He meets you and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: what twiddling more than the sum Yeah? Really like, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, wholesome is it? Yes? I've listened to a
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  Speaker 1: few of you. Aren't they wholesome? Is that was how
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  Speaker 1: you describe the fans? Are? So? I didn't want the
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  Speaker 1: same thing dirty. But so tell us what it was
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  Speaker 1: like getting that role. What do you remember about it,
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  Speaker 1: the audition process and all that when Oh, well, I
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  Speaker 1: guess he helped me get it. He told me that
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  Speaker 1: later when we met. He told me that he saw us,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember seeing him walking to Amy's office and
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  Speaker 1: at the you know, callbacks. I guess there was probably
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  Speaker 1: just like five people being seen, but I only saw
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  Speaker 1: two other women, girls, children, And he walked in and uh,
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  Speaker 1: we smiled at each other, and then he said, and
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  Speaker 1: you told her that I was the most interesting looking. Really,
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  Speaker 1: I probably just looked like the biggest hussey in the group.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine, whatever works, right, whatever gets you the gig
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  Speaker 1: competitions a monster, isn't it. Jesus, What a good gig
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  Speaker 1: to get though, huh. I remember how something about the
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  Speaker 1: audition besides him, besides seeing him. Oh well, I had
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  Speaker 1: never watched the show, and I still have not watched
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  Speaker 1: the entire series. We have that in common, um, but
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  Speaker 1: I knew it was a big show. Oh, my car
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  Speaker 1: had broken down on the side of the road, like
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  Speaker 1: a sim horizon from the eighties. But I was always
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  Speaker 1: driving around beaters, you know, are they and when you're
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  Speaker 1: stuggling actor and my car had just broken down on
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  Speaker 1: the side of the road on the East Kueanga before
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  Speaker 1: you go over. That's a bad place to break down. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there's a fire thing right down the road. But anyways,
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  Speaker 1: uh yeah, but it's such a skinny road. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of dangerous. Yes, it is dangerous, there's no But that's
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  Speaker 1: when I got the call. While I was waiting on
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  Speaker 1: the tow truck, that's when I got the call that
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  Speaker 1: I booked it. Really, that's one of those fun stories.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't know anything about it. I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: anything about Milo and uh, yeah, I did you read
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  Speaker 1: with him or did you just read for was Amy
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  Speaker 1: in the room when you read? No, it's just yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he was in the room now, it
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  Speaker 1: was just casting say something to her and left, and
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  Speaker 1: then luckily he saw me. Hey, you know what it's like? Hey, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: you know it's it's there's a million reasons you get
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  Speaker 1: a job. If it's because the lead actor thinks they're cute,
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  Speaker 1: that's okay, there's nothing wrong with that, and they're not. Look,
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to let you on the set if
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  Speaker 1: you can't deliver the goods right that far. So I
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  Speaker 1: beat out several girls. But that extra something right then,
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  Speaker 1: that had that a little extra something that Milo noticed
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  Speaker 1: and that's good. Good on him, right because that's the
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  Speaker 1: one he vibes with and that's going to make a
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  Speaker 1: better scene. Well, we we didn't have fun scenes. I
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  Speaker 1: was barried at the time. I have fun stories for
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  Speaker 1: you about my little go ahead nothing bad, No, no no,
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  Speaker 1: I know go ahead one day on set and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it was my first day. I think I
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  Speaker 1: mean it could have been. I don't know, it's all blurred,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But one day, on a break for the
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  Speaker 1: launch or something, he went to a Catholic church. He
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  Speaker 1: brought me. I don't know why I went with him
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  Speaker 1: or he asked me or how that worked out, but
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  Speaker 1: we were hanging out and he was like going, so
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  Speaker 1: I was with him. We went to this Catholic church
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  Speaker 1: very close to Warner Brothers. And he went in and
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  Speaker 1: spoke to a priest. And I mean he didn't try
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  Speaker 1: and uh convert me or anything. I'm not Catholic. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what he went to speak, maybe about something,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe he was, you know, researching something, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe he felt bad about kissing a married woman. I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea, because we went for it. We didn't
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  Speaker 1: take it. You know, we noticed that. Oh yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: noticed that in the scene. Yes, and what's a what's
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  Speaker 1: another Milo story? Um? We like, we like, we like
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  Speaker 1: behind the scene stories. Oh well, um, so my first
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  Speaker 1: day the a C did not work and my crappy
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  Speaker 1: little non star trailer I don't think I even had
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  Speaker 1: a TV and uh so, uh he let me hang
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  Speaker 1: out and his trailer, which was a store wagon, and
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  Speaker 1: then you know, how a c and and uh and
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  Speaker 1: so I just watched TV and his nice air conditioned
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  Speaker 1: Posh wagon while he very just like I guess, which
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  Speaker 1: is like weird because just is kind of jured anyway,
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  Speaker 1: He's like sitting outside inside reading a book on his
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  Speaker 1: you know, stoop um. And then Alexis came by and
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  Speaker 1: talked to him for a little bit. And then later
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  Speaker 1: he told me like, Alexis never comes to talk to me,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, well, it's like life is
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  Speaker 1: imitating art and so okay. So there was a security
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  Speaker 1: guard who I told I don't know if you remember her.
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  Speaker 1: She was there all the time, Brunette I think kind
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  Speaker 1: of Spanish, and she was nice, very nice. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you know who kind of something's kind Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he talked a lot. And one day I told
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  Speaker 1: her like, they're gonna get together, you know watched you
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  Speaker 1: just watched and she was like, no, been on the
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  Speaker 1: show for like I thought you were already together. Now
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  Speaker 1: there's no way they're going to get together. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, you mark my word. And then at the
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  Speaker 1: hundredth episode party, remember the um you know night thing um,
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  Speaker 1: she told me she's like they're together and she was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, you called it. I was like I
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  Speaker 1: could see it, you know, from worked my magic. I
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  Speaker 1: got it from from from the moment, from the moment
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  Speaker 1: he hit the set, right from the moment he showed up. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: the girls were going crazy and they were vying for him.
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  Speaker 1: I remember everybody on set on the cast, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the younger the younger cast members were all jostling for position.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I I remember Liza, you know, cruising his trailer. Everyone.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he caused quite a star. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: people's actor names, like you Liza, Liza played Pari. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I remember he just you know, it's like everybody
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  Speaker 1: wanted to date him, you know, man, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so lucky, but like I wish maybe like this
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  Speaker 1: is I'm not married to the same person anymore. That was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, very tumultuous relationship. But had I not been
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  Speaker 1: sang like you know how, like maybe I could have
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  Speaker 1: worked that angle like like I was so maybe I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, because I was so I was married, so
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  Speaker 1: like I didn't even think about it like that. But
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  Speaker 1: I did enjoy making out with him. So yeah, that's look,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's the main thing, and maybe if you were
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  Speaker 1: the type of girl that would have had something going
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  Speaker 1: on with him. That's why he went to talk to
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  Speaker 1: the priest just in case. Because I seem like that
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  Speaker 1: kind of girl. That's why the cast me is that
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  Speaker 1: kind girl. But you know, I'm a one guy right there,
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  Speaker 1: you go, Right, so every everybody felt safe and you
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  Speaker 1: know it was all good. Well, yeah, and he feels
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  Speaker 1: say if he was very he was a gentleman. He
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  Speaker 1: was you know, he was very kind to me. But
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  Speaker 1: he never made a move or anything like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that would be outside his character to do something like that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Since then, I've always thought because he had
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  Speaker 1: such a basis, like a religious like you know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's why he's who he is today. He is. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: I love this is us, Oh my god, and love that.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it to cry every episode
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  Speaker 1: like it's an amazing show and he's great on it.
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  Speaker 1: And then just like sometimes I'm like, I'm so honored
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  Speaker 1: that they just like hired me to be the eye
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  Speaker 1: candy that makes that with him I had, but hey,
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  Speaker 1: that's so nice. It's a nice game. Well, you've parlayed
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  Speaker 1: into a nice career. No, I mean I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I did, Like, well, I mean they're they're the fans
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  Speaker 1: of this show, which are huge, huge fans, and then uh,
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  Speaker 1: and then Survivor. So like Survivor came five years after
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  Speaker 1: this show. Nobody even remembered me from this show, and
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  Speaker 1: I did Survivor and they're really really about the very
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  Speaker 1: big fans of them. You seem so um, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: like I didn't. I didn't go further like I did
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  Speaker 1: a few other shows. So so what was that Survivor experience?
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  Speaker 1: Like where did they send you? And like, what what
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  Speaker 1: was that? All? You're in Africa? Okay, yeah, no, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I was one of my first season. I didn't I've
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  Speaker 1: never even seen that show. I'm I'm I do a
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  Speaker 1: lot of shows that I've never watched. Well, I they
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  Speaker 1: sent me five seasons to like, uh to study. So
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  Speaker 1: I on DVD back in the day. And I was
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  Speaker 1: in New York at the time and so and my
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  Speaker 1: my my father had just passed away, and so I
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  Speaker 1: was really not doing anything. I'd moved to New York.
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  Speaker 1: I decided to kind of give up acting. Um, and
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  Speaker 1: then I kind of got bored and was like maybe
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  Speaker 1: we should try acting in New York, which is like
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  Speaker 1: the worst idea. I had no representation out there, and like,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't equity, so I was like, what am I doing? Anyways? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they found me on a calendar, on a dog pan
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  Speaker 1: up calendar like a dog charity for some show and
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember the name. I want to say it's
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  Speaker 1: America's Greatest Dog, but I flipped it up and I
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  Speaker 1: can't be right. So something about dogs like dogs and
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  Speaker 1: people living in a house and having competitions or something,
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  Speaker 1: and I they flew me back from New York to
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  Speaker 1: l A had already lived in Elm for a long
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  Speaker 1: time and uh, with my dog and I took that
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  Speaker 1: trip because I wanted to come back and visit my friends.
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  Speaker 1: And then I extended the plane for a week so
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  Speaker 1: I could hang out, and um, I didn't. I was
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  Speaker 1: never planning on doing a reality show because I was
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  Speaker 1: an actor. But I was in a wall and they
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  Speaker 1: caught me on it down you know, I was very
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  Speaker 1: sad a gig well then they then I came back
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  Speaker 1: to New York and the casting director said what you know,
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  Speaker 1: like we want you for a survivor and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm never even paid outside. There's no way I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: do Survivor. That is not my I've like seen the
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  Speaker 1: first episode or two of the very first season and
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  Speaker 1: so no, thank you. And then they were like, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna send you five seasons. So we watched. I watched
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  Speaker 1: it my ex husband at the time. He was already
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  Speaker 1: my ex husband, but his dad had died three days later,
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  Speaker 1: and my dad and a freak accident where somebody opened
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  Speaker 1: up their car door without looking in New York and
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  Speaker 1: knocked him in the street. He was riding a bike
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  Speaker 1: and in a bus or a truck. Hinnant tragic, three
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  Speaker 1: days after my dad had died of the three and
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  Speaker 1: a half year of cancer thing. Insane, So I, you know,
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  Speaker 1: went to New York and so I've been up there
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  Speaker 1: with my ex husband and we watched those seasons together
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  Speaker 1: and he was like, if you don't do this, you're
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  Speaker 1: in scening. So I was like, well, I guess you're right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty insane nowadays anyways. And and I needed
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  Speaker 1: like an adventure, and I had no plans on getting
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  Speaker 1: very far or winning or anything like that. I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to heal a little bit. And I ended up
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  Speaker 1: amongst winning, which is incredible crazy, And then I went
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  Speaker 1: back a couple of years later for a year later
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  Speaker 1: for season twining for Heroes Versus Fellons. Okay, um, so
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  Speaker 1: you've performed as Marilyn Monroe since the age of fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: How did you get star did in this crazy? Um? Well,
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  Speaker 1: when I was twelve, people started telling me I looked
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  Speaker 1: like her young Marilyn Monroe, and I had no idea
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  Speaker 1: who that was. And my parents were divorced, and I
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  Speaker 1: went to visit my dad that summer for like a
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  Speaker 1: month and I asked him to rent a movie because
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  Speaker 1: somebody told me, you know, a couple of people told
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  Speaker 1: me I looked like this person, and I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, what, you don't know who this is?
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  Speaker 1: So we watched it and I was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I had We were really, really poor, and I had
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  Speaker 1: super low self esteem. When I saw this angel the
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  Speaker 1: screen glowing, I was like, oh my god, so many
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  Speaker 1: things I looked like that, you know, And I was
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  Speaker 1: like while going out thirteen, So I was like, in
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  Speaker 1: the weirdest stage of my life, right, Uh. So that
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  Speaker 1: really gave me a lot of confidence. And then when
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  Speaker 1: I was fifteen, I did a talent show as Marilyn
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  Speaker 1: Monroe and I one second place, and it was like thinking,
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't even really think if I was going
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  Speaker 1: to get in the contest, because like, is that a talent?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know? And so uh. And then when I
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  Speaker 1: was sixteen, I won my first contest, And when I
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  Speaker 1: was seventeen, I me to San Francisco after high school
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  Speaker 1: and with my first job was that Laurie's Fishy's Diner,
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  Speaker 1: being Merrily Monroe walking around passing out things with Charley
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  Speaker 1: Chaplin and uh. And then when I was nineteen to
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  Speaker 1: move to l a and got with William Morris Agency.
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  Speaker 1: What what Yeah, I was on the show within six months,
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  Speaker 1: Called for Your Love. Wow. Yeah, It's been a wild ride.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'm a suburban mom. One of the valleys okay, okay, one,
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  Speaker 1: there's several and then, um, you know, I have a
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  Speaker 1: six year old daughter. You know, we just bought a house.
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  Speaker 1: It's so warm, that's nice. What do you love most
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  Speaker 1: about Maryland? Oh my god, you know, I'm a really
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  Speaker 1: big nerd. I'm in the fan club. Well, there's several,
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  Speaker 1: but the longest running bank Marilyn remembered, and um, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I go to meetings we do, like a birthday we do.
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  Speaker 1: I've spoken at one of her memorials. We do a
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  Speaker 1: memorial every year and either Christmas party. I am a
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  Speaker 1: super herd, Like everybody's a nerd about something. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I'm a nerd about. I have a guest room in
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  Speaker 1: my house with Marilyn stuff. But what what do I
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  Speaker 1: love the most about her? I mean, I think that
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  Speaker 1: most of us that love Maryland gravitate too. You know,
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  Speaker 1: her hard upbringing and you know, poor upbringing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: no solid foundation. But then she made it like she
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  Speaker 1: made that happen. And you know she did it pretty
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  Speaker 1: without too much you know, you know giving, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, She like worked for it. She did
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  Speaker 1: a lot of like work on herself, which I wish
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  Speaker 1: I could say that I go to class. I've gone
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  Speaker 1: to classes for years. I don't. I don't get to
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  Speaker 1: class for acting. But she did. She really made that happen.
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  Speaker 1: She moved to New York and and and was invited
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  Speaker 1: into the Actors Studio and married h Arthur Miller, for
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  Speaker 1: God's sake. I mean, that's taking your craft pretty seriously.
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  Speaker 1: Those are those are the three highlights that you know
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  Speaker 1: or you love Maryland two and you're just saying that
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  Speaker 1: are like I do. I mean I thought she was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a very rare combination of beauty, I mean
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  Speaker 1: just overwhelming, uh sensuality and beauty and vulnerability and comedic timing.
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  Speaker 1: I think she was very skilled and and she controlled
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  Speaker 1: every scene she was in with relative these So I
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  Speaker 1: think she was a very very special special talent on
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  Speaker 1: not just the obvious uh you know gifts that she had.
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  Speaker 1: She was she was a very gifted actress as well,
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  Speaker 1: very very gifted, and she never I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: she really ever got credit for it. Oh yeah. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so are you similar to her in ways? In different
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  Speaker 1: in ways? How how are you similar? How are you different? He? Um?
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  Speaker 1: Since since I grew up pretending to be her, Um, like,
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  Speaker 1: I really developed a completely different personality so that I
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  Speaker 1: would know the difference between me and her. Um. I'm
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  Speaker 1: very into vintage and stuff, but I'm like a little
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  Speaker 1: punk rock. I try not to be as punk rock
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  Speaker 1: as I'm so hard like trying to be U a
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  Speaker 1: Valley mom and like, I have a group of moms
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  Speaker 1: and we all have kids in the same class, and
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  Speaker 1: like I felt like a real weirdo when guy here.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, but I made myself that weird how so,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I like me. I think it's to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: keep me separate. I think I even I made my
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: voice maybe even lower, just because I wanted to make
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  Speaker 1: there there'll be a difference. I didn't think when I
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  Speaker 1: was fifteen that there wasn't even a job called impersonating.
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't think that I would be doing that
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  Speaker 1: my whole life or anything like that. I was. We
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: didn't do that. That wasn't like, you know, I didn't
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: come from the city. There wasn't a girl on the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: corner taking pictures and so so you're doing that. Still
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  Speaker 1: you're still impersonating Maryland and being hired to do it.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: So what I don't do like singing telegrams and I
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: don't hang out on Hollywood full of no no, I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: know that. So describe, Describe what you do, and what
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: you do basically just walk around and stay in character
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: for a few hours, take pictures with people, help have
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a host you on stage, and you have an agent
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: for that that books you for these things. I have
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: a couple of different agents for that, you know, my
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: regular acting manager and then a commercial agent. That's great. Yeah,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: well be crazy if I was working a lot. I
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: have very very rarely go out and I don't know,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I just tick some of your headshots. We'll see what happens. Oh,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: their business is impossible. It's impossible. And people don't people
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: go where did they go? Or like, what have they've
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: been doing? Oh? You know it's not that easy. Like
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you can't you can't get work if you don't get
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the audition. And if you're not you know what they're
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: needing right now, then you're not auditioning a lot. You
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: know you're feeling that way. I feel you there. There
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: are very few people that work all the time. That
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: is That is the the exception, But the norm is
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: like everybody's fighting for a job and it's a it's
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: a tough slog out there, man, it really is. I mean,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy that I got into this part of
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: my life where I have the family and like normalcy.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: But at this point we're feeling very not stagnant at all.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: We have wall to paint, I have like rooms to decorate,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: but I really do want to do so. But but
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not hungry, like I just moved to town. You
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm not you know, I'm not
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: out there, you know, pushing myself and like you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: you know, So tell me what is your best Gilmore memory? Oh? Man, um, well,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Fred Savage directed my first episode. I'm a huge wonder
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: wonder years. Wait minute, he directed a Gilmore Girls episode.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: He directed a couple of them. Did he really? Did
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you not talk to you know what? I didn't know this.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: The series that I did after Gilmore Girls was up
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: in Vancouver doing is called oh God, what was the
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: name of that thing? Aliens in America for c W
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and Fred Fred Fred rect did I don't know, three
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: or four episodes and that we only did one season,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: so he did three or four episodes. But I guess
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I did remember him from Gilmore, but I don't really
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: remember him from Gilmore. I remember him from that that
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I said, Savage, right, Fred Savage? Yeah? Okay, yeah, okay,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I wanted to. I didn't want to say Armison on accident.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Fred Savage all full of all, full of energy and yes,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: hold my load, to put his hands in my back pockets.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And I was thinking, how cute and eighties that was,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: That's very eighties. I was like, hell, that's very seventies
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: as well. I'll tell you I think they did that
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: in wonder years too. But I mean it's a thing anyway.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I just remember him coming and telling him that, and
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, go right ahead. You know, an actor
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: makes choices based on many different things, and well that's
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: what you know, I guess the story there. The moral
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: of the story there is just grabbing what's right front
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: of you, right right, something like that. Um, but so
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: what is so what is your what is your best
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: memory of Gilmore working with Fred Savage? Um? Okay, well
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: that was. That was so cool to me, not not
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Milo but working Fred Savage. But yeah, no, that that
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Fred Savage was directing My first episode was Yeah, that was.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: And then I worked at one in one coffee shop,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you know on Franklin. One on one coffee shop is
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: named something different. Now, okay, yes, yes, this is this. Yeah,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about, a lot of famous
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: people went in there all the time because it came
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: down from the hip, came down something else. And he
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: would come in a lot with his family and so like,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: you know, one time I said something to him and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: then he remembers. So it's very random that like I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: was waiting on him a lot after Huh that's light
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: in l A as a matter Yeah, yeah, Um, well listen,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: it has been a delight catching up with you. Thank
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: you for coming on and sharing some of you have great,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: great stories, um, and we really appreciate it. Just before
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: we go, I want to say that it was really
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: an honor to be on such a beautiful, wholesome show.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: It was so well written and all the characters are
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: amazing and you're great. Thank you, and uh, and I
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: hope to see you play somewhat yourself but not less
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Luke and something else and the next thing so that
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: we can. You know, on TV you get stuck in
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the same character, you know. Actually, Uh, we're negotiating on
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: something now that is kind of luke ish. It's but
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it's it's more me than Luke. And so if we
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: end up doing it, it'll it'll be a nice it'll
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: be a nice thing. I'm glad I picked Jessica. Has
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: been a pleasure. Thank you so much, and uh, good
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: luck with everything. And I hope we talked soon. Okay,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: all right, take care alright, bye bye. All that was fun,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: wasn't she great? I loved her? Stories. Uh, I gotta
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: have her back on what a what a what a nice?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: What a nice gal Um. Anyway, that's going to wrap
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: it up for this little minisode one on one with
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Jeff Jessica keiper Um. We'll see you next time. Thanks
• 26:30
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