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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, September 11 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football touchdown Jacksonville. What
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Speaker 1: a playing thirty yard touchdown? Chad Any Huston Blackfoot, Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: Did you go? Jack Jaguars? Did you come? Jaguars Drive Time?
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Speaker 1: Ryan Sex steps Ran shows it actually Jaguars Drive Time
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Speaker 1: starts right now. Baguars Drive Time Wednesday Morning, brought to
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Speaker 1: you by Dooval Motor Company, as we look forward to
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Speaker 1: Sunday's game against the Houston Texans. Jaguars will travel up
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Speaker 1: to Houston on Saturday. As we welcome in Texans team
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Speaker 1: reporter Deep Sad, thanks for joining us so early. Deep,
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Speaker 1: Good morning, guys. How's it going in Jacksonville? Good? How
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Speaker 1: are you? How? Short week? I'm sure with Monday night football? Yes,
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Speaker 1: still recovering. Um, I think we would have all been
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Speaker 1: a little bit more energetic if that Saints game, if
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Speaker 1: if a certain field goal at the end has go
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Speaker 1: in a different way. Still, though, you have to feel
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Speaker 1: pretty good about the way that your offense looked on
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Speaker 1: opening day. I mean, with Tunsil coming in it left
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Speaker 1: tackle and the issues with the running back. Are the
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Speaker 1: people in that building energized by what they saw from
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Do we lose her? Oh? I hate when
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Speaker 1: that happens. All right, obviously question I've heard all day.
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Speaker 1: You want to hear that, been there, done that. It
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Speaker 1: was an exciting game though down to the wire. Well,
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Speaker 1: and uh, they are excited about their offense there. I
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Speaker 1: talked to John McClain the Houston Chronicle who also covers
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Speaker 1: the team. Uh, the offense is as good as they've
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Speaker 1: ever had in in Houston. Sounds like we're getting her
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Speaker 1: back at some point. They are concerned about the defense.
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Speaker 1: We can get to that later. Still looks like we're
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Speaker 1: trying again. Deeply, we apologize. I apologize for Brian asking
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Speaker 1: that question. You had to hang up on rude to
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Speaker 1: ask about entirely rude to ask about impressive offense performance.
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Speaker 1: I apologize, Well, I was just saying it was a
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Speaker 1: short week for the Texans, that it would have felt
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Speaker 1: we would have all been a little bit more energetic
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Speaker 1: if if the field goal, if well, let's have missed
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Speaker 1: that fifty eight yard or at the end. But you know,
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Speaker 1: there's still a lot of positive that we could have
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Speaker 1: taken from that game. From that loss, because with so
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Speaker 1: many new players on offense and a couple of rookies
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Speaker 1: out there on the field too. There were there was
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Speaker 1: a lot that uh that the Texans fans and and
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Speaker 1: this team can really be optimistic about moving forward. And
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Speaker 1: I think one of them is number four to Shaun Watson,
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Speaker 1: just seeing what he's able to do in a situation
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Speaker 1: like that so late in the game. You know, when
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Speaker 1: the balls in his hand, anything's possible. And I think
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Speaker 1: we knew that early on, but seeing him do it
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Speaker 1: against a team like the Saints against Drew Breesum, a
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender, that was just that was just pretty
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Speaker 1: pretty spectacular to watch. When you're reading about that game,
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Speaker 1: they talked about all the pauses, but the one negative
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Speaker 1: is that offensive line gave up six sacks. He brought
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Speaker 1: in Laramie Tunsel, but he can't fix the entire offensive line.
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Speaker 1: So where do you think that unit stands right now? Well,
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Speaker 1: I think there is a lot of excitement around Laramie.
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Speaker 1: He did early on. He did a good job of
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Speaker 1: holding up his side of the line. Now there is
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Speaker 1: a lot of youth on the offensive line, but you
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Speaker 1: know that we didn't see any of those those rookie starts,
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Speaker 1: but this is still a pretty young offensive line in
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Speaker 1: the sense that they haven't played together. So there have
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Speaker 1: been a lot of um substitutions throughout the off season
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Speaker 1: and throughout training camp, and they haven't really had um
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Speaker 1: much time that they've played together. And then you look
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Speaker 1: at a guy like Laramie Counsel, who you know, we've
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Speaker 1: all seen what his career has done for him in Miami,
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Speaker 1: and he comes in and you expect things to just
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Speaker 1: turn around immediately, and and they're not going to. Obviously
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Speaker 1: one guy is not going to fix the entire offensive line.
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Speaker 1: But the hope is that as they move forward and
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Speaker 1: they build that chemistry, um, that they can sort of
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Speaker 1: shore things up a little bit more. This is obviously
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Speaker 1: a problem coming from last year. They wanted to reduce
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Speaker 1: the number of stacks. The Shawn Watson was back sixty
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Speaker 1: two times last year and then seeing him back six
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Speaker 1: times that first game, UM, nobody wants to see that.
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Speaker 1: And uh, that's definitely something that they've been focused on
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Speaker 1: moving forward, which is why they gave up two first
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Speaker 1: round picks in the second round pick to get Laramie Tunsel.
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Speaker 1: But that's definitely a focal point moving forward, and they're
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Speaker 1: going to continue to substitute guys on that offensive line
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Speaker 1: until they get it exactly where they wanted in the
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Speaker 1: protection exactly how they want it for de Shaun Watson.
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Speaker 1: I know there are some concerns coming out of last
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Speaker 1: season about the past defense, especially late. Uh is that
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Speaker 1: still a concern? I know against the Saints obviously at
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Speaker 1: the end, but that's Drew Brees overall. How do they
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Speaker 1: feel about the secondary? You know, the secondary that I
4:50
Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen the news recently, the former
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Speaker 1: jad war Aaron Colton. According to reports, the Texans released him. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's they've lost their safeties in the secondary, but then
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Speaker 1: they it too Shaun Gibson, former Jaguar, and they've got
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Speaker 1: Justin Reid back there. And then their cornerbacks Jonathan Joseph
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Speaker 1: has played. Um, I think this is your four team
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Speaker 1: for him, and they drafted a rookie and Ronnie Johnson,
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Speaker 1: and I think going against Drew Brees, there were there's
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Speaker 1: a litt bit a lot of criticism about how that
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Speaker 1: secondary performed against him. But then also you know it
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Speaker 1: works in tannem with the past rush. J. J. Watt
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Speaker 1: struggled um in that game. He didn't really put much
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Speaker 1: on the board. And when I say struggled, it means
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Speaker 1: there's two or three guys on J. J. Watt, so
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Speaker 1: you know he can't be j J. Watt. Obviously there's
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Speaker 1: no jadeveon Clowney, so that affects things too. It's a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a domino effect. But we've seen this
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Speaker 1: with Romeo Crennell's defenses. They generally are slow to start
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Speaker 1: early on in the season, and then as the season
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Speaker 1: start starts rolling on about October November, you really start
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Speaker 1: to see it come together. And I think that's gonna
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Speaker 1: be the case this year. Obviously they can't wait that
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Speaker 1: long to get it put together, but I think losing
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Speaker 1: Javan Clowney and then J. J. Watt being held the
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Speaker 1: that's certainly gonna help Whitney. Merciless is going to go
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Speaker 1: back to the role that he played a few years
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Speaker 1: ago where they don't drop him back and coverage as much.
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Speaker 1: They allow him to rush the pastor he had a
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Speaker 1: really great game, and then hopefully having a good pass
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Speaker 1: rush getting some pressure on the quarterback will help the secondary.
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Speaker 1: They just weren't able to do that against Drew Brees.
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Speaker 1: But you know that's also to Derees's credit. He gets
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Speaker 1: rid of the ball so quickly, and and he's a
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Speaker 1: very very very good quarterback. So uh, you know, hopefully
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Speaker 1: moving forward they can get being sort of firm done
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Speaker 1: in the secondary back there. The absence of Clowney is
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Speaker 1: the part that really interests me and watching obviously from Afar.
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Speaker 1: He just he wasn't a sixteen sack guy. Everybody knows that,
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Speaker 1: and he gets a lot of criticism for his edge rushing,
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Speaker 1: but he was so disruptive. He was a guy that
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Speaker 1: they could move and he could rush from the middle.
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Speaker 1: They could move him left and right and drop him
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Speaker 1: into coverage. And when he walked on the field and
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Speaker 1: he was he was the biggest guy on the field.
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Speaker 1: I just got the sense that that defense was missing
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Speaker 1: him in the middle. How long DP do you suppose
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Speaker 1: it is? But where they get into a rhythm without him,
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Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have much time to waste. But
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Speaker 1: you know you're right when when Jeff and Clowney is
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Speaker 1: on the field, he doesn't put up the numbers, he
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Speaker 1: doesn't put up the big staff numbers, but there definitely
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Speaker 1: was a presence when he was on the field. He
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Speaker 1: was really good against the run. He was just so
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Speaker 1: disruptive getting in the backfield. He was just a physical specimen.
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Speaker 1: He was big, he was fast. Um, I don't think
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen a person that large move as quickly
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Speaker 1: as I've seen Givian Clownie move and and defense has
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Speaker 1: had to account for him, which really freed up J
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Speaker 1: J Watt a lot of times. And so there's a
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Speaker 1: lot more attention on JJ, which puts a lot more
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Speaker 1: pressure on JJ. But we talked to Romeo Cornell about
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Speaker 1: it last week and he said, the system doesn't change
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Speaker 1: whether or not Clownie's there. They're they're going to have
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Speaker 1: to have other guys step up in his place, and
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Speaker 1: they're going to have to get good against the run,
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Speaker 1: which they were last year. They were first in the
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Speaker 1: league in rushing yards allowed. So uh, you know, with
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Speaker 1: a guy like Romeo Cornell at the helm, he's going
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Speaker 1: to have to take the pieces that he has and
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Speaker 1: sort of fill in the gaps of Clownie. Can you
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Speaker 1: replace Clownie? No, you can on but you can find
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Speaker 1: a couple of guys move them around and like Whitney Morsels,
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Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, changed his role and then a
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Speaker 1: guy like Brendan Scarlett start to do what Whitney was
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Speaker 1: doing last year, UM, where he drops back and then
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Speaker 1: fills in those gaps and and you hope that you're
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Speaker 1: able to sort of fill in the gaps and with
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Speaker 1: everyone playing their part, you can sort of make up
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Speaker 1: for the loss of Clowney. But you know, that was
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Speaker 1: just sort of what they had to do in the
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Speaker 1: off season. UM, and they added a couple of new
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Speaker 1: linebackers in there, so they're hoping that a combination of guys,
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Speaker 1: hopefully in the right substitution, uh, they can fill in
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Speaker 1: those gaps, stop the run and get to where they
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Speaker 1: were last year. Because even with Jevin Clowney the years
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Speaker 1: that he was hurt, you know, there was the season
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Speaker 1: that we didn't have j. J. Watt for an entire season,
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Speaker 1: and it was the defense was ranked first in the league.
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Speaker 1: So you know, you'd almost treat it like that when
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Speaker 1: when when a guy is not on the field, everyone
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Speaker 1: else has to step up. And that's just sort of
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Speaker 1: the attitude moving forward. Yeah, I think that Watt is
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Speaker 1: the guy who's going to struggle without Clowney. I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's a story this week about you know, hundred and
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Speaker 1: five games in his career, he'd always had at least
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Speaker 1: a tackle, and just my opinion is is that the
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Speaker 1: reason he didn't was because they could all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden focus on what and not clowning. So yeah, he's
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Speaker 1: always It's funny because you always see him and there
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Speaker 1: was one holding call I do remember on him, but
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Speaker 1: it seems like that's every single play if you just
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Speaker 1: watch what, he's always got two or three, uh two
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Speaker 1: or three guys on him and rarely does a holding
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Speaker 1: call get held on what. But um, you know he's
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Speaker 1: used to it. He's even said he said, well, that
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Speaker 1: can't be my excuse, you know. I mean, that's just
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Speaker 1: how it's going to be. But a really good player
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Speaker 1: sort of have to outplay that and find other ways
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Speaker 1: to make plays. And whether it and and maybe that's
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Speaker 1: the way he makes plays that he ties up a
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Speaker 1: couple of guys and allows a guy like Whitney merciless
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Speaker 1: to get a stack and to get an interception. Maybe
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Speaker 1: that's going to be his role. But I just find
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Speaker 1: that hard to believe. I think J. J. Watt we're
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Speaker 1: gonna see him sho up on the stat sheets. But
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Speaker 1: it's gonna take it's gonna take a few a few games.
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Speaker 1: Maybe for him to sort of find his rhythm as well. CB.
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Speaker 1: It's early in the week, but what are the Texans
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Speaker 1: saying about the Jaguars now, with a new quarterback and
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Speaker 1: a disappointing performance on defense, How are they looking at
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Speaker 1: this game on Sunday. Well, I don't think any one's
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Speaker 1: taking Gardner Minshew for granted. I mean, I think he
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Speaker 1: did such a great job against Kansas City, coming in
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Speaker 1: there through the ball deep, he took a lot of chances.
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Speaker 1: He's packed twelve Player of the Year, he was he
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Speaker 1: who's really lighting it up at Washington State. Everyone here
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Speaker 1: sort of knows his backstory, and no one everyone knows
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Speaker 1: that the backup quarterbacks in this division have sometimes really
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Speaker 1: challenged the Texans, and Chad Henny obviously being one of them,
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Speaker 1: and and no one is more worried about that. I guess,
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Speaker 1: I guess worried is the wrong word. But no one's
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Speaker 1: taking it too slightly that Nick Foles is out for
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Speaker 1: this game and and probably the Texans won't face them
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Speaker 1: this year, So I think they're they're taking it as
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Speaker 1: a very big challenge because coming off of a lass
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Speaker 1: like the one they had to Orleans, they don't want
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Speaker 1: to start the season off. Oh and two, they need
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Speaker 1: to win this home opener against the division rival. They
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Speaker 1: need to sort of take charge of the division and
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Speaker 1: you know that's something that they're going to have to
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Speaker 1: work on. The defense, I think is the big question
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Speaker 1: this week. They want to be they want they want
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Speaker 1: to allow five hundred passing yards like they did last week,
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna shore things up a little bit, like
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Speaker 1: I said, in the secondary, and they have to keep
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson upright, and they know what this Jaguars pass
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Speaker 1: rush cadn do and we all see those battles between
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and DeAndre Hopkins. I think if there's one
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Speaker 1: strength of the Texans moving forward, it's the fact that
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Speaker 1: they have so many offensive weapons UM in this game,
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Speaker 1: the wide receivers are all pretty much healthy UM with
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Speaker 1: the exception of Kiki qt who could return this week
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Speaker 1: as well. But you've got DeAndre Hopkins, will Fuller, and
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Speaker 1: then the addition of Kenny's Spills who brings a lot
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Speaker 1: of speed, DeAndre Carter in the slot, and then two
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Speaker 1: brand new running backs who we saw for the first
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Speaker 1: time last Monday Night against the Saints and Carlos Hide
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Speaker 1: and Duke Johnson, and they were really able to run
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Speaker 1: the ball well with those two hundred and forty rushing
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Speaker 1: yards between the two of them. And and Bill O'Brian
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Speaker 1: says he's going to use those backs differently every week.
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Speaker 1: So I think that they don't want it to be
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Speaker 1: a shoot out, but if it has to be a
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Speaker 1: shootut I think they feel very confident in the offensive
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Speaker 1: weapons they have, but they're not taking this Jaguars defense
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Speaker 1: lightly at all. It's gonna be exciting game. Nonetheless, it
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Speaker 1: should be fun. It's all a lot of fun. I
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Speaker 1: love these divisional games. All right, we will see you
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Speaker 1: on Sunday, DP. Thanks so much for waking up early
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Speaker 1: Motor Company. It's time for big things. We got a
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Speaker 1: different run now this morning. We're changing things up right,
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Speaker 1: John Change is evil, evil, as he likes to say.
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Speaker 1: All right, Big thing one is staying alive. That is
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Speaker 1: the goal for Gardner minshore, keeping this team afloat and
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Speaker 1: keeping them in the conversation. You're not asking me to
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Speaker 1: go on the field on Sunday against the Texans and
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Speaker 1: lighted up like he did against the Chiefs. You just
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Speaker 1: want him to be consistent, no turnovers, keep the ball
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Speaker 1: in the hands, and just stay alive. Big thing too
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Speaker 1: is doubt. Dak Dallas quarterback Dak Prescott. You would never
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Speaker 1: say you doubt him right now. Maybe back in two
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Speaker 1: thousand sixteen when he went in for an injured Tony Romo,
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Speaker 1: you might have doubted him if you were a Cowboys fan.
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Speaker 1: Now he's the Cowboys franchise quarterback, needless to stay. Doug
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Speaker 1: Brown does not doubt Gardner Minshew, and he says very
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Speaker 1: few quarterbacks could do what he did last Sunday. I
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Speaker 1: really don't know how many people, especially rookies you know,
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Speaker 1: can go out there and not having done anything. You know.
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Speaker 1: I mean during the week and that's the truth. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know Nick took all the snaps. You know, they
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Speaker 1: go out there and play like that. You know that
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Speaker 1: that's a credit to Hill and big thing three is
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Speaker 1: what we've been asking before. We've been talking about it
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Speaker 1: all offseason. You need these young talented players to develop
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Speaker 1: and be key contributors on Sunday because the cap space
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Speaker 1: and because all of the franchise players. But we saw
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Speaker 1: that on Sunday, especially with DJ Chark getting those touchdowns.
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Speaker 1: That is a prime example of a young talent developing,
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Speaker 1: like we've been talking about all off season. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: Westbrook's already doing it. Shark Richardson. Uh, will Richards was
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Speaker 1: a great sign there that it was like John Taylor
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Speaker 1: is Um Williams on the defensive side of the bowl. Yeah, youth,
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Speaker 1: there are the first little glimpses of maybe what this
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Speaker 1: offense might be becoming down the right. I want to
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Speaker 1: just conclusions based on one game, say this is gonna
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Speaker 1: be the core, but some of these young guys drafted
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Speaker 1: starting to show up. Now, maybe this is what the
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Speaker 1: offense is gonna start gearing towards over the next a
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Speaker 1: few years. Uh, we'll see. That's way too long term
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Speaker 1: for one week, but bigger picture, right. You've someone asked
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Speaker 1: me the other day, well, why Josh Dobbs, that's all
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Speaker 1: they could afford, right, I mean he's coming into play
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Speaker 1: for six d grand this year, it's seven under grand
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Speaker 1: next year. Somebody said, why don't they go sign Caperhey
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Speaker 1: forget all the political issues. They could never go and
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Speaker 1: do that. Right, So, when you have the salary cap
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Speaker 1: issues that this team has, you have to have these
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Speaker 1: young guys step up. You mentioned the guys on offense,
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, on defense, Quincy Williams. Uh. There's potential for
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Speaker 1: Tavin Bryan obviously to eventually rise here. Some of the
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Speaker 1: young defensive backs that we've seen, Ronnie Harrison obviously is talented.
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Speaker 1: Despite the miscuse we saw the other day. These young
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Speaker 1: guys have got to step up, especially when you're fifteen
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Speaker 1: million dollar linebacker is watching the game from the locker room.
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Speaker 1: You've got to have this. I want to go back
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Speaker 1: to the top though, big things, And I love the suit, John,
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Speaker 1: you could pull it off. Um, what is staying alive me?
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Speaker 1: I've had somebody saying, look, Becauld, they go four and
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Speaker 1: five to the bye League and then potentially get Nick
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Speaker 1: Foles back. He's four and five. Staying alive seems to
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Speaker 1: be he did too much to ask he's the question
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Speaker 1: right now? Well it it absolutely is. Historically, you know,
17:19
Speaker 1: if if Minshew comes in and leads them to four
17:23
Speaker 1: and four, it's an outlier, It's it's a it's a
17:26
Speaker 1: huge story. It's unbelievable. It would be, you know, on
17:30
Speaker 1: a pie chart, most of them would not happen. He'd
17:34
Speaker 1: be the small pie chart. What if you change the question.
17:36
Speaker 1: What if it's the defense leads the way and Minshew
17:38
Speaker 1: just doesn't screw it up and he stays alive. Where's
17:41
Speaker 1: the pie chart go? At this point, you guys say
17:42
Speaker 1: you believe when you see it from the defense, Yeah,
17:44
Speaker 1: you skeptical. But here's the thing about Gardner. Um your
17:52
Speaker 1: first instinct is to say, well, you can't keep doing it.
17:54
Speaker 1: But you hear Doug Moron say this again. I talked
17:58
Speaker 1: to John McClean from the Houston Chronicle, who's one of
18:00
Speaker 1: the most respected NFL guys. All he could talk about
18:03
Speaker 1: to me last night when we spoke was Gardner. Because
18:06
Speaker 1: he had watched the game in Texans. Weren't playing. He
18:09
Speaker 1: said in forty three years covering the league, he had
18:11
Speaker 1: never seen a rookie quarterback come in and do that. Well,
18:16
Speaker 1: that sort of started maybe you know, there's maybe there's
18:20
Speaker 1: something to this kid that we just assumed because of
18:24
Speaker 1: what we saw in preseason. You're too close to it.
18:26
Speaker 1: We'll see, you know. The realist YA says, no way,
18:32
Speaker 1: but who knows. All right, But that's where the Dak
18:35
Speaker 1: Prescott comparison comes in. And that's why I'd be interested
18:37
Speaker 1: to see how they handle him, because look, Prescott came
18:39
Speaker 1: in and went into the lineup when Tony Romo injured
18:42
Speaker 1: his back and never came out of the lineup. I'm
18:45
Speaker 1: not saying that's what's gonna happen. But the reason why
18:47
Speaker 1: he was so effective they didn't ask him to do
18:49
Speaker 1: what he could do. He had Ezekiel Elliott and the
18:52
Speaker 1: best offensive line in football. Still had des Bryant that
18:55
Speaker 1: we only made fifty catches, right, still had Jason Witten
18:58
Speaker 1: that we only made sixty catches. They were in their prime.
19:01
Speaker 1: But he did what he could do. Their defense wasn't
19:04
Speaker 1: all that good in and it worked, and they were
19:08
Speaker 1: hoping to stay alive until such point that Romo could
19:12
Speaker 1: come back to when an eight game winning streak before
19:13
Speaker 1: you know what the thirteen and three quarterback? No, no, no,
19:19
Speaker 1: don't you know me? Well, I know, I don't do
19:21
Speaker 1: that crap. That's for the Twitter people. What I'm saying
19:25
Speaker 1: is is that there's a reason to think, based on
19:28
Speaker 1: what we saw in recent history, that this kid can
19:32
Speaker 1: come in and the Jaguars can craft a game plan,
19:35
Speaker 1: hoping that the defense plays like we saw them play
19:37
Speaker 1: in Miami, hoping that you get a contribution from Leonard
19:40
Speaker 1: for that greater than we've seen since, and then all
19:43
Speaker 1: he has to do is do what they ask him
19:45
Speaker 1: to do well enough to stay alive. You're so used
19:48
Speaker 1: to it not happening that you start to believe it
19:51
Speaker 1: can't happen. Maybe this is the one where it happens
19:55
Speaker 1: for the Jags. I mean, and again, the pessimists in
19:59
Speaker 1: me says no, But you keep on going back to
20:01
Speaker 1: that game, and there were things that he did that
20:03
Speaker 1: made you go, well, I don't have any pessimists in mean,
20:06
Speaker 1: I do have a little bit of realist in me.
20:07
Speaker 1: So I understand that most football people would say no, no, no,
20:10
Speaker 1: because they've seen it, and I had somebody you know
20:13
Speaker 1: throw the Brady Well, why not? I mean, Brady was
20:15
Speaker 1: a six round pick. What you tink the greatest quarterback
20:16
Speaker 1: has ever played the game? Right, It's time to stop
20:18
Speaker 1: thinking every six round picks. You can't that is that outlier.
20:22
Speaker 1: Isn't even the right word for that. But a fourth
20:25
Speaker 1: round pick from three years ago in a very similar
20:28
Speaker 1: situation is worthy of comparison. We'll see if they can
20:31
Speaker 1: do the same thing here. Quarterback controversy up here in
20:35
Speaker 1: checks of the stopster in the pot. That's that. That
20:38
Speaker 1: is the low hanging fruit. That's what people. That's Twitter people,
20:42
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20:44
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23:03
Speaker 1: hot takes. John, you guys are kind of similar this
23:07
Speaker 1: week that the quarterback controversy to I'll go first and
23:17
Speaker 1: I'll say that Jalen Ramsey will lead the charge this week.
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Speaker 1: The worst game of his career was last year against
23:24
Speaker 1: Indianapolis in Indianapolis. Easy for me to say. He rebounded
23:29
Speaker 1: with two interceptions against the Steelers the next week, including
23:33
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23:37
Speaker 1: front of Antonio Brown. So I'm gonna say that based
23:41
Speaker 1: on what I heard from him in the post game
23:44
Speaker 1: locker room. The look that I saw in his eye,
23:46
Speaker 1: the feeling that I got that will see the same
23:48
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. They're gonna need to be Look, the only
23:51
Speaker 1: way that the Jaguars beat the Texans is if Ramsey
23:57
Speaker 1: takes Hopkins and minimizes the impact. He was targeted thirteen
24:01
Speaker 1: times on Monday Night football called eight thenleven passes round
24:05
Speaker 1: eleven yards and two scores. By comparison, Will Fuller and
24:11
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills, who deeps to do mentioned a few moments ago,
24:14
Speaker 1: we're only targeted six times. I mean, look, they just
24:16
Speaker 1: give it to this guy, and give it to this
24:17
Speaker 1: guy to soften up the defense and then run the
24:21
Speaker 1: ball through the middle. Right. Not that Carlos hide skiers anybody,
24:24
Speaker 1: but Watson showed you the mobility there. Ramsey's going to
24:27
Speaker 1: need to equal the rebound from a year ago against Hopkins,
24:32
Speaker 1: who he loves to play against. So I say he
24:35
Speaker 1: does it this week. I m he needs to because
24:41
Speaker 1: it was at his best game on Sunday. Uh. There
24:44
Speaker 1: are times with this whole defense that she's If we're
24:47
Speaker 1: looking at that game the other day, you want to say, look, guys,
24:50
Speaker 1: just calm down, play your game. It looked like there
24:53
Speaker 1: were things all of them doing. Miles Jail and Ronnie
24:56
Speaker 1: Harrison just too fired up in the secondary. Just just
25:00
Speaker 1: play the scheme and everything. I'll be fine. I think
25:02
Speaker 1: too often this defense plays as if they are bigger, stronger, faster,
25:06
Speaker 1: more athletic than everyone else. And in many ways they are.
25:09
Speaker 1: But they've got to mix in the mental side of
25:11
Speaker 1: the game. Smart play, mental toughness, and the discipline that
25:15
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25:19
Speaker 1: discipline and the the back end to your big, strong, fast
25:22
Speaker 1: to get home. I shouldn't have this week we see
25:24
Speaker 1: some of it. I think. Um my hot take is
25:27
Speaker 1: that this is I'm not a must win game early
25:31
Speaker 1: in the season, guy, but this feels like as much
25:34
Speaker 1: of one as it possibly can be. I think this
25:36
Speaker 1: game has a chance to define the defense and the
25:38
Speaker 1: season because I think they all go together. Uh. If
25:41
Speaker 1: this defense comes out and the Texans aren't as good
25:45
Speaker 1: as the Chiefs, but there you know, if if the
25:50
Speaker 1: Chiefs and Patriots are two, the Texans are in that
25:53
Speaker 1: group right behind them in terms of offense, big plays. Uh.
25:56
Speaker 1: The secondary has to cover in this game and allow
25:58
Speaker 1: the pass rush to take advantage of what the Texans
26:00
Speaker 1: weaknesses um to me. If they don't do it this week,
26:05
Speaker 1: I think you're talking about a slip slide. Seas the
26:07
Speaker 1: Saints have a okay defensive front. It's not littered with
26:12
Speaker 1: pass rushers like this one is. They should be able
26:15
Speaker 1: to equal six sacks. Yeah, but the secondary has to
26:18
Speaker 1: cover and give the line more than two and a
26:22
Speaker 1: half seconds to get rid of the ball. If they
26:24
Speaker 1: do today, right, if they do, they should equal to six.
26:26
Speaker 1: I think Sheland is going to stir up the quarterback
26:28
Speaker 1: controversy right now. For you know, I was starting up
26:30
Speaker 1: how do you know? How do you know? It wasn't
26:32
Speaker 1: about Gardner Minshew. My hot take is Gardner Minshew is
26:35
Speaker 1: about to be a national treasure. He's already tracking that way.
26:39
Speaker 1: But a lot of people didn't really know about Gardner Minshew,
26:41
Speaker 1: at least on Sunday, until they saw the ticker on
26:44
Speaker 1: the bottom of the screen and saw those staff and said, wow, okay,
26:47
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. Now you're watching National TV and he has
26:50
Speaker 1: everyone talking. Everyone's got their stashes on talking about Gardner Mintshew.
26:54
Speaker 1: This week, take a national treasure off the field. Don't
27:00
Speaker 1: don't start the controversy Week two. I didn't start it.
27:05
Speaker 1: You did. Is if he can keep this team alive,
27:09
Speaker 1: like we go back to big things. If he can
27:11
Speaker 1: go for and for, he's going to have everyone in
27:14
Speaker 1: this country talking about him more so than he is
27:16
Speaker 1: right now. The most importantly, he's going to have everybody
27:18
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville talking about That's what we need. Optimism, controversy,
27:23
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27:28
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Atlanta with Austin. More often
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Speaker 1: than not, we see backups coddled with bubble screens and
29:30
Speaker 1: handoffs to minimize their potential downside in the game. What
29:34
Speaker 1: are the odds we actually open the playbook up to
29:36
Speaker 1: the new QB one. Seems like he earned that chance
29:39
Speaker 1: last week. Well, I would say they're not going to
29:41
Speaker 1: share this until they do it. Um, I think there's
29:44
Speaker 1: more of a chance with Minshoe. I've been with a
29:47
Speaker 1: normal backup quarterback. You scored forty two in the Wonderlook,
29:50
Speaker 1: he's really small, right because and even beyond that, his
29:53
Speaker 1: ability we've all heard it, his ability to take from
29:56
Speaker 1: the classroom see it on the field. Uh, he doesn't
29:59
Speaker 1: seem to you make the silly mistake and the game
30:05
Speaker 1: changing mistake that you worry about when you open at
30:08
Speaker 1: the offense. I don't think you do it right off
30:11
Speaker 1: the bat because you want to make sure that he's
30:13
Speaker 1: functioning as high level as possible. But I think you'll
30:15
Speaker 1: see it quicker than you usually would with a player
30:18
Speaker 1: of this experience. It's open for him. They'll go to
30:20
Speaker 1: him and decide what he likes, what he's comfortable with. Right,
30:24
Speaker 1: So they're not going to run some of the plays
30:25
Speaker 1: that they would run with Folds because he's just not
30:27
Speaker 1: that same quarterback. But they will tailor the playbook that's
30:30
Speaker 1: open to him based on what he likes and what
30:32
Speaker 1: he's comfortable with well done. Morrell mentioned on Monday that
30:35
Speaker 1: he was so prepared going in that when he went in,
30:37
Speaker 1: they said, all right, what do you want to run?
30:39
Speaker 1: He said, I like this play. I like this play,
30:40
Speaker 1: I like this place. He knew the entire playbook for
30:42
Speaker 1: fools and picked out what he liked and Taylor to him. Yea,
30:45
Speaker 1: And as we said Monday, it was impressive just because
30:48
Speaker 1: of the circumstance, the poise. Ah, he will be given
30:53
Speaker 1: more than most. Now throws down field the other day.
30:58
Speaker 1: I mean, what more do you need? It wasn't like
31:00
Speaker 1: they went bubble screen and hand on didn't. No, he
31:03
Speaker 1: threw down on the field to d J Chark. He
31:05
Speaker 1: threw down the field to Chris Conley. Playbooks are open.
31:07
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that. All right, let's go to Rob
31:10
Speaker 1: from Jacksonville. Yes, this defense was overwhelmed Sunday, out of
31:14
Speaker 1: sync on discipline and pretty much just awful. Everyone has
31:18
Speaker 1: those days. Doesn't the body of work over the past
31:21
Speaker 1: two years support this being an anomaly versus a crisis.
31:25
Speaker 1: It does, uh, but they still have to prove it.
31:27
Speaker 1: And I've got a lot of emails this week Brian
31:31
Speaker 1: about well, the defense hasn't been good since Tudos seventeen.
31:34
Speaker 1: That's not true. Last year, at the end of the season,
31:38
Speaker 1: they had one stinker game and that was Tennessee. Beyond that,
31:42
Speaker 1: the last six or seven games this team put together, Uh,
31:45
Speaker 1: they shut out Andrew look in the Colts and and
31:48
Speaker 1: that wasn't the only game where they played like that.
31:50
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh until the very end they played well. Um, it
31:53
Speaker 1: wasn't great, but they got no help from the offense. Uh,
31:56
Speaker 1: You're going to have some stinker games on What you
32:03
Speaker 1: hope is that Sunday was a combination of bad game,
32:06
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of panic early once it stopped
32:08
Speaker 1: working players around, players around to do too much, and
32:12
Speaker 1: then it was Kansas City that could take advantage of everything.
32:15
Speaker 1: The margin for error was almost nothing. So you know,
32:19
Speaker 1: there are some questions. You know, the safeties, especially Ryan Harrison,
32:21
Speaker 1: didn't play great. Uh, Myles Jack didn't play great. Uh
32:26
Speaker 1: were those outliers? Is that who they are? I think
32:28
Speaker 1: Myles Jack is a lot better than he played the
32:30
Speaker 1: other day. He's shown that are the safety is better.
32:32
Speaker 1: I think that's where you're gonna find out as you
32:35
Speaker 1: go on how good those guys really are. Can they
32:38
Speaker 1: hold up? I believe it was an outlier. Um, but again,
32:42
Speaker 1: this would be a theme all week. Secondary has to
32:45
Speaker 1: play better to let the defense get home. Me and
32:47
Speaker 1: the defensive line we saw again it was against Miami,
32:50
Speaker 1: but we saw them for a couple of series. Just
32:52
Speaker 1: own the line of screen, right, And that was with
32:54
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and Larreamy Tunseil played right. Who will see
32:57
Speaker 1: this week for the Texans? Now, this unit is as
33:01
Speaker 1: talented a defense as there is in football. What they
33:04
Speaker 1: have not shown this this year is discipline and mental toughness.
33:09
Speaker 1: Show those things and I'm back on board with this defense.
33:12
Speaker 1: I would expect that what we saw last week was
33:13
Speaker 1: an outlier, but how far out depends on how far
33:17
Speaker 1: forward the defense goes this week. Right. We always talk
33:19
Speaker 1: about them playing with emotion as a positive and it
33:22
Speaker 1: fires them up and it makes them play better. Last
33:25
Speaker 1: week emotional intelligence. Right, Let's played with some emotion and
33:30
Speaker 1: some intelligence this week. Yeah, all right, John, you'll know
33:33
Speaker 1: the answer to this because you have swag for sure?
33:35
Speaker 1: Right picked out the question. I wouldn't have done that
33:39
Speaker 1: fitted into the answer, Virginia. Would you say that the
33:43
Speaker 1: Jaguars defense has fake swag? You know, I don't think
33:48
Speaker 1: it's fake. Um. I think sometimes they get to a
33:53
Speaker 1: point where maybe the swag hurts them a little bit.
33:56
Speaker 1: I thought it heard of me. It's Kansas City a
33:57
Speaker 1: little bit. Uh. When have swag and things go against you,
34:02
Speaker 1: sometimes your response to that is I'm just gonna have
34:06
Speaker 1: more swag. Well, at some point, put away the swag
34:09
Speaker 1: and covered the swag matter at all. Just go play.
34:11
Speaker 1: I want to see sacks, not swag. Well, so it
34:14
Speaker 1: was cool and seventeen. Yeah, but in order for it
34:19
Speaker 1: to be cool, it has to work. Right. So the
34:22
Speaker 1: only reason that works is because you're getting sacks and
34:24
Speaker 1: interceptions and strips. And give me the steak, swaging right there,
34:28
Speaker 1: right at that, give me this damn right it is.
34:32
Speaker 1: It's my eagle scalt pin you you give me the
34:36
Speaker 1: steak before you give me the sizzle. I'm tired of
34:38
Speaker 1: the sizzle. I want the damn steak. Is that too
34:41
Speaker 1: much to ask these days? No, it's not again. I
34:45
Speaker 1: go back to the hundred and forty character thing. It's
34:47
Speaker 1: just all like this. It's all fashion, pops and buzzes.
34:50
Speaker 1: Give me the substance I want mental toughness. Football is
34:54
Speaker 1: a game of human confrontation. I want toughness, I want discipline.
34:58
Speaker 1: You can take all the swag and mix it all in.
35:01
Speaker 1: After that, it's all noise, white noise, until you sack
35:06
Speaker 1: the quarterback, strip the quarterback, intercept the ball. Forget swag,
35:11
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm tired of people talking about swag. Touch
35:14
Speaker 1: that man's jack and give him the steak. Dang it. Hey,
35:18
Speaker 1: you know what, Let's get to the point, and the
35:20
Speaker 1: point is is that the swag didn't work on Sunday.
35:22
Speaker 1: Did the sizzle didn't work? So bring the steak and
35:26
Speaker 1: let's see if that works. Let's see. I guarantee you
35:28
Speaker 1: go back to step one hover just play football, don't
35:33
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