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Who Killed Alex Odeh? Documentary Trailer and Release Details · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: It is, it's the morning of October 11th, 1985. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And we are in, you know, sunny suburban Santa Ana,
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  Speaker 1: right in the heart of Orange County, California.
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  Speaker 2: Just a completely normal, typical morning.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. So a man named Alex O'Day walks up to
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  Speaker 1: the door of his office and he's a civil rights advocate.
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  Speaker 1: He's a father of three, just arriving for what should
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  Speaker 1: be a perfectly mundane day of work. Right. So he
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  Speaker 1: reaches out, you know, turns the handle and pushes the
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  Speaker 1: door open. But what he doesn't know, I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't possibly anticipate in this totally boring commercial building
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  Speaker 1: in Southern California is that someone has rigged the frame
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  Speaker 1: of that door. Oh, man. Yeah. When he pushes it,
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  Speaker 1: this mechanical tension is released, a tripwire triggers, and a
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  Speaker 1: literal military-grade explosive device explodes. detonates right there in his office.
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  Speaker 2: It is just I mean, it's a profound, shattering moment
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  Speaker 2: of violence. And it completely obliterated the sense of safety
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  Speaker 2: in that entire community.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And from a historical perspective, you know, it's a moment
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  Speaker 2: that we are honestly still living inside of today, like
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  Speaker 2: four decades later.
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  Speaker 1: We really are. So welcome to the deep dive. Today,
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  Speaker 1: we are immersing ourselves in this story that just flat
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  Speaker 1: out refuses to be relegated to the past.
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  Speaker 2: It really refuses.
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  Speaker 1: We are working from an exclusive report from Deadline. They
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  Speaker 1: brought us the trailer and some really extensive surrounding reporting
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  Speaker 1: for a highly decorated brand new documentary. It's titled Who
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  Speaker 1: Killed Alex O'Day? Right.
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  Speaker 2: And our mission for this deep dive today is to
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  Speaker 2: really trace the trajectory of this whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We're going to look at how this localized, just
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  Speaker 1: horrific assassination in an Orange County office space somehow spans
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  Speaker 1: a 40 year gap. Like it bypasses local police entirely
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  Speaker 1: and tangles itself up and incredibly high stakes. global geopolitics
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  Speaker 1: and you.
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  Speaker 2: Know we are doing this because this is definitely not
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  Speaker 2: a closed chapter of history not at all the FBI
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  Speaker 2: file on this assassination actually remains an active pulsing investigation
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  Speaker 2: today like right now which is wild it is and
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  Speaker 2: the filmmakers behind this documentary are stepping directly into that
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  Speaker 2: active void they're claiming they have unearthed the answers that
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  Speaker 2: federal investigators have allegedly you know either missed or just
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  Speaker 2: ignored for an entire generation okay but before.
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  Speaker 1: We go any further um I really need to pause
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  Speaker 1: and establish a hard boundary for you, our listener.
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  Speaker 2: Very important.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the source material we have in front of
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  Speaker 1: us today, the documentary trailer, the director's statements, this whole
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  Speaker 1: deadline article, it contains deeply, deeply politically charged claims. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it does. We are dealing with severe, direct allegations regarding
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  Speaker 1: the United States government, the nation of Israel, and specific
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  Speaker 1: extremist groups.
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  Speaker 2: So that requires a massive, crucial disclaimer here. We're doing
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  Speaker 2: this deep dive today strictly to perform an impartial analytical
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  Speaker 2: breakdown of the claims and ideas exactly as they are
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  Speaker 2: presented in this documentary and the article.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. We are absolutely not endorsing any political viewpoints here.
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  Speaker 1: We are not taking sides and we're not independently validating
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  Speaker 1: the allegations made by the filmmakers. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Our job is just to report the contents of the
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  Speaker 2: source text to you.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. We are examining the architecture of the story
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  Speaker 1: they have chosen to tell, the massive claims they are making.
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  Speaker 1: And just the sheer narrative weight of their investigation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we are analyzing how they build their argument, right?
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  Speaker 2: The evidence they claim to present. And what it actually
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  Speaker 2: means for a piece of media to challenge an official
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  Speaker 2: state narrative on this kind of massive scale.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's unpack this. Because to really understand the
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  Speaker 1: scale of what this documentary is attempting, we have to
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  Speaker 1: start at the physical scene of the crime.
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  Speaker 2: Right back to Santa Ana. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the assassination of Alex Oda. Like we mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: he was a Palestinian-American advocate for civil rights. And the
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  Speaker 1: method of his murder was a tripwire bomb.
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  Speaker 2: Which is just terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: It is. I want to linger on the mechanics of
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  Speaker 1: that for a second. Because, you know, we hear the
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  Speaker 1: word bombing and we so often think of, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: a pipe bomb tossed through a window in the dead
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  Speaker 1: of night.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Or a suspicious package left on a doorstep or something.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. But a tripwire bomb inside a civilian office building.
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  Speaker 1: The physical reality of actually executing that is just terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: It completely changes the profile of the crime, honestly, because
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  Speaker 2: to rig a tripwire bomb, you aren't just driving by
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  Speaker 2: and throwing something out a window.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're not.
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  Speaker 2: You have to gain covert entry into a commercial building.
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  Speaker 2: You have to have the technical expertise to rig a detonator,
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  Speaker 2: the explosives, and a tension wire to a doorframe facility.
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  Speaker 2: so perfectly that it won't go off prematurely. Right.
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  Speaker 1: You can't blow yourself up while making it.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. But it has to guarantee detonation the exact second
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  Speaker 2: the target enters. I mean, it requires a frightening level
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  Speaker 2: of premeditation, silence, and just pure engineering.
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  Speaker 1: It requires military-grade sophistication. This isn't some spontaneous crime of passion.
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  Speaker 1: It is a highly calculated, targeted assassination.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact that it happened in Orange County, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: a place that's practically synonymous with quiet suburbs and sunshine,
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  Speaker 2: it creates this Really jarring dissonance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was an act of domestic terrorism brought into
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  Speaker 1: a completely mundane everyday space. And, you know, the human
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  Speaker 1: toll was just devastating. As the text explicitly notes, Alex
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  Speaker 1: Oda was a father of three.
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  Speaker 2: He was a community leader. He was a father, a civilian.
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  Speaker 2: And he encounters a device that is essentially designed for
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  Speaker 2: maximum indiscriminate destruction.
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  Speaker 1: It's awful. It is. It is.
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  Speaker 2: And the deployment of a device like that on American
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  Speaker 2: soil instantly elevated the case out of the jurisdiction of
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  Speaker 2: a local homicide detective. It placed it squarely on the
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  Speaker 2: desk of federal counterterrorism authorities.
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  Speaker 1: Which brings us to, honestly, the most baffling part of
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  Speaker 1: this entire story. Yeah. The law enforcement reality of the aftermath.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where it gets crazy.
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  Speaker 1: For more than 40 years, despite the massive federal involvement
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  Speaker 1: and despite the high profile nature of the assassination... No
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  Speaker 1: one has ever been charged.
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  Speaker 2: Not a single indictment. Zero.
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  Speaker 1: None.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's crucial to distinguish between an unsolved
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  Speaker 2: case and a closed case because this is definitively not
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  Speaker 2: a closed case.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah. I kind of look at this ongoing 40
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  Speaker 1: year FBI investigation like a live wire just lying in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of a community.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great analogy.
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  Speaker 1: Because usually with true crime, the narrative eventually cools down.
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  Speaker 1: You know, even if a case goes unsolved, the leads
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  Speaker 1: dry up. The original detectives retire. The file gets shoved
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  Speaker 1: into a box in a basement somewhere, and it just
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  Speaker 1: becomes cold history.
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  Speaker 2: It fades away.
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  Speaker 1: Right. But this case hasn't been grounded at all. The
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  Speaker 1: FBI actually still has an active reward of up to
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  Speaker 1: $ 1 million for information leading to an arrest and conviction.
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  Speaker 1: $ 1 million. $ 1 million just sitting on the table for
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  Speaker 1: four decades.
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  Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is the institutional endurance of that specific reward.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, $ 1 million is an astronomical sum for a
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  Speaker 2: domestic terrorism reward.
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  Speaker 1: It really is.
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  Speaker 2: And maintaining it across... multiple generations of FBI directors and
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  Speaker 2: different field agents, it sends a very specific message. It
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  Speaker 2: tells the public and, frankly, the perpetrators that the Bureau
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  Speaker 2: still classifies this as an active priority.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the article actually gives us a direct quote
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  Speaker 1: that reinforces exactly that. So, Akeel Davis, who is the
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  Speaker 1: assistant director in charge of the FBI R.S. Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: field office, he gave a statement just last year on
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  Speaker 1: the 40th anniversary of the killing. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: What did he say?
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  Speaker 1: He said, and I'll quote this directly, the FBI has
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  Speaker 1: never given up and will continue to investigate new leads
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  Speaker 1: on this case until it is solved.
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  Speaker 2: Now think about the mechanics behind a statement like that.
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  Speaker 2: When an assistant director in charge goes on the record
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  Speaker 2: 40 years later, it's not just a polite PR move.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It is a declaration of institutional memory. He is publicly
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  Speaker 2: committing current and future resources to a case that originated
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  Speaker 2: before many of his current agents were even born.
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  Speaker 1: See, I hear that. But I have to push back
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  Speaker 1: a little on the reality of that statement versus the
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  Speaker 1: reality on the ground. Fair enough. A statement of commitment
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  Speaker 1: is great, obviously. But 40 years without a single charge.
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  Speaker 1: That live wire has been sparking for a really long
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  Speaker 1: time without anyone successfully capping it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The results just aren't there.
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  Speaker 1: They aren't. And this massive gap between the FBI's stated
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  Speaker 1: commitment and their absolute lack of results is exactly the
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  Speaker 1: void that this new documentary who killed Alex O'Dea is
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  Speaker 1: stepping into.
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  Speaker 2: And the filmmakers aren't just stepping into that void to
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  Speaker 2: say like, hey, we found a new fingerprint. They are
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  Speaker 2: stepping in to fundamentally reframe why that void even exists
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  Speaker 2: in the first place. Right.
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  Speaker 1: They are taking this from a local California bombing and
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  Speaker 1: blowing it up into a massive geopolitical conspiracy. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the documentary's central thesis isn't just that they have a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good theory. They are arguing that the identities of
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  Speaker 1: the perpetrators are literally known.
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  Speaker 2: And that these known perpetrators successfully fled the jurisdiction of
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  Speaker 2: the United States and escaped to Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Which is a staggering logistical claim just on its own.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: But the film takes an even more monumental leap. They're
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  Speaker 1: aiming a direct accusation at the federal government. The documentary
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  Speaker 1: alleges that officials within the U.S. State Department actively discouraged
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  Speaker 1: American law enforcement agents from pursuing these assassins explicitly for
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  Speaker 1: political reasons.
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  Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture... The filmmakers
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  Speaker 2: are essentially accusing the diplomatic wing of the United States
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  Speaker 2: government of actively obstructing the law enforcement wing of the
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  Speaker 2: United States government.
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  Speaker 1: Which is wild to think about. It is.
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  Speaker 2: Mechanistically, how would something like that even work? You wouldn't see,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a shadowy meeting in a parking garage.
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  Speaker 1: Right, like in a movie. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It would look like diplomatic friction. It would look like
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  Speaker 2: the State Department dragging its feet on extradition requests. Or
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  Speaker 2: maybe classifying certain international communications. Or just telling the Department
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  Speaker 2: of Justice that pushing for warrants in a foreign country
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  Speaker 2: would jeopardize fragile Middle Eastern peace talks.
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  Speaker 1: Or geopolitical alliances.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: It totally recontextualizes the FBI's failure. The film is essentially
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  Speaker 1: arguing that the FBI didn't fail to solve the case
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  Speaker 1: because they lacked the detective skills, you know. They failed
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  Speaker 1: because they were politically tethered. Their hands were tied by
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  Speaker 1: the State Department.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely. The documentary basically shifts the genre of the story
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  Speaker 2: from a domestic hoodoonet to a massive international cover-up. And
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  Speaker 2: they point the finger of responsibility for the actual assassination
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  Speaker 2: directly at members of the Jewish Defense League.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's make sure we define that group exactly as
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  Speaker 1: our source material does. Good call. So the article describes
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  Speaker 1: the Jewish Defense League as a radical right-wing group based
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  Speaker 1: in the U.S., Canada, and France.
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  Speaker 2: And the film presents a very specific motive for them.
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  Speaker 2: They claim this group targeted Odeh specifically to silence his
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  Speaker 2: advocacy for Palestinian civil rights.
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  Speaker 1: I am really stuck on the magnitude of these accusations, though, because,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we see independent documentaries investigate cold cases all
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  Speaker 1: the time.
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  Speaker 2: True crime is huge right now.
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  Speaker 1: But usually that involves finding a lost witness or maybe
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  Speaker 1: testing some DNA that just wasn't available in 1985. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Small scale breakthroughs.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. But it requires an entirely different universe of evidence
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  Speaker 1: to confidently accuse the U.S. State Department of a literal
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  Speaker 1: cover up. I mean, how does a documentary crew effectively
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  Speaker 1: navigate accusing their own government of obstructing justice to protect
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  Speaker 1: international terrorists.
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  Speaker 2: It's a huge task.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like a massive leap from, hey, we made
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  Speaker 1: a movie about an unsolved crime to we are taking
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  Speaker 1: on the entire federal state apparatus.
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  Speaker 2: That is the defining tension of this entire project, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: because how do you prove an absence of action was
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  Speaker 2: actually intentional?
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  Speaker 1: That's the question.
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  Speaker 2: The logistics of what they are alleging are incredibly complex.
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  Speaker 2: You have a bombing in California. perpetrators who allegedly coordinate
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  Speaker 2: an international flight to Israel, and an accused group, the
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  Speaker 2: Jewish Defense League, that operates across North America and Europe.
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  Speaker 2: The filmmakers are basically trying to map out a global
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  Speaker 2: network of violence and subsequent state protection.
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  Speaker 1: And as we stated in our disclaimer earlier, we are
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  Speaker 1: looking at the narrative weight of the film's arguments. We
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  Speaker 1: obviously don't have the State Department memos from 1985. sitting
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  Speaker 1: here in front of us to verify.
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  Speaker 2: We can't fact check the archives ourselves right now.
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  Speaker 1: But as a story structure, it's just explosive. It is.
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  Speaker 2: But, you know, if we pull back from the geopolitics
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  Speaker 2: and the international borders and the state departments for a moment,
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  Speaker 2: we really have to look at where the story actually
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  Speaker 2: lives on a day to day basis.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point.
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  Speaker 2: Because for 40 years, the fallout of this assassination hasn't
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  Speaker 2: just been felt in the halls of Washington. It has
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  Speaker 2: been felt in a very specific, very human community.
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  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the directors themselves. Because this project
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  Speaker 1: is not some abstract, you know, academic exercise for them.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the co-director, William Lafayette. Right. He is Palestinian-American,
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  Speaker 1: and the article details his deep personal connection to the
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  Speaker 1: source material. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't just stumble across this case in a Wikipedia
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  Speaker 2: rabbit hole late one night.
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all. He grew up inside of it.
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  Speaker 1: The text notes that the story of Alex O'Dea's killing
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  Speaker 1: was a frequent recurring topic of conversation in the Arab-American
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  Speaker 1: community during his entire childhood.
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  Speaker 2: It was essentially a foundational piece of his cultural landscape.
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  Speaker 2: And the director's statement provides a really nuanced look at
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  Speaker 2: how Odeh's legacy functioned within that community. Because it wasn't simple,
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  Speaker 2: you know. It was a deeply fractured dual legacy.
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  Speaker 1: How so?
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  Speaker 2: Well, on one side, Alex Odeh was celebrated as a martyr.
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  Speaker 2: A man who paid the ultimate price for his civil
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  Speaker 2: rights advocacy.
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  Speaker 1: Right. But the other side of that legacy is incredibly dark.
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  Speaker 1: Because the case was never solved, it bred a massive
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  Speaker 1: amount of cynicism.
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  Speaker 2: Totally understandably.
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  Speaker 1: Right. The failure of the investigation was viewed by many
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  Speaker 1: in the community as glaring evidence of government discrimination. And
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  Speaker 1: the directors note that his murder was sometimes used as
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  Speaker 1: this terrifying warning against getting politically involved in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: It's tragic.
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  Speaker 1: It is. Here's where it gets really interesting to me, though.
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  Speaker 1: I see Odeya's story functioning within that community almost like
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  Speaker 1: a generational ghost story.
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  Speaker 2: Ghost story.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but not the kind of ghost story you tell
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  Speaker 1: around a campfire to scare kids for fun. This is
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  Speaker 1: a highly functional, lethal, cautionary tale that is passed down
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  Speaker 1: to actively shape and unfortunately suppress how a marginalized community
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  Speaker 1: interacts with the political sphere.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's a story told out of rational, survival-based fear.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Don't raise your voice. Don't run for office. Don't organize.
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  Speaker 1: Because look what happened to Alex O'Day. They blew up
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  Speaker 1: his office and nobody ever faced consequences.
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  Speaker 2: What you are describing there is the exact psychological mechanism
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  Speaker 2: of a chilling effect.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And if we connect this to the bigger picture, this
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  Speaker 2: is why the unsolved nature of the crime is so
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  Speaker 2: incredibly toxic. When justice is deferred for four decades, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't just leave the immediate family in pain. It creates systemic,
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  Speaker 2: deeply rooted distrust across an entire demographic.
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  Speaker 1: It sends a message.
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  Speaker 2: It sends a very clear, chilling message. An unsolved political
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  Speaker 2: assassination implies, whether it is the intentional position of the
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  Speaker 2: state or simply the result of bureaucratic failure, that certain
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  Speaker 2: lives and certain political voices are just not afforded the
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  Speaker 2: full protection of the law.
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  Speaker 1: It creates a literal hierarchy of citizenship. Yes. It tells
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  Speaker 1: the Arab American community. If you advocate for civil rights,
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  Speaker 1: you are taking a mortal risk and the institutions of
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  Speaker 1: justice will not prioritize your safety or avenge your death.
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  Speaker 2: And that kind of trauma, it compounds over time. It's
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  Speaker 2: not just the grief of 1985. You know, it is
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  Speaker 2: the ongoing vulnerability felt every single year that the FBI
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  Speaker 2: reward goes unclaimed. The failure to close the case just
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  Speaker 2: keeps the psychological wound open generation after generation.
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  Speaker 1: Which means William Lafayette Humans isn't just making a movie here.
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  Speaker 1: He is trying to perform a kind of narrative surgery
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  Speaker 1: on a 40-year-old open wound in his own community.
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  Speaker 2: That's a heavy lift for one person.
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  Speaker 1: It is. And I think he realized how heavy that
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  Speaker 1: burden was because he made a very specific, deliberate, creative choice.
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  Speaker 1: To tell a story so deeply embedded in his own
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  Speaker 1: community's trauma, he teamed up with someone entirely outside of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And the collaboration at the helm of this documentary
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  Speaker 2: is arguably its most compelling structural feature.
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  Speaker 1: So... He co-directed the film with Jason Oster, who is
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  Speaker 1: Jewish American. And the article gives us a really fascinating
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  Speaker 1: window into Oster's personal evolution through the process of making
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  Speaker 1: this film.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: For Oster, the Oda case wasn't a childhood ghost story.
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  Speaker 1: It was an entry point. It literally became the catalyst
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  Speaker 1: for him to actively learn about the Middle East.
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  Speaker 2: And the director's statement points out something very raw about that.
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  Speaker 2: They say that making this film was the first time
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  Speaker 2: Oster had ever learned about Jewish extremism.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a massive paradigm shift for a filmmaker
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  Speaker 2: to undergo while the cameras are actually rolling.
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  Speaker 1: And he didn't just do archival research either. The article
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  Speaker 1: notes he made a physical journey traveling to Israel and
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  Speaker 1: the occupied West Bank. The text uses a very loaded
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  Speaker 1: phrase to describe the outcome of this journey. It says,
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  Speaker 1: Oster came to understand his heritage with a new sense
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  Speaker 1: of privilege and responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: Think about the weight of those two words together, privilege
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  Speaker 2: and responsibility. It indicates a transition from a passive, perhaps
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  Speaker 2: unexamined relationship with his cultural identity to an active, critical
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  Speaker 2: and accountable engagement with it.
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  Speaker 1: The directors also described their early discussions while building the film.
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  Speaker 1: They say those conversations were rich in a way that
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  Speaker 1: speaks to the power of the American experiment, creative collaboration
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  Speaker 1: and storytelling.
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  Speaker 2: It's a powerful way to frame it. It is.
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  Speaker 1: But let's pause there because I have a structural question
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  Speaker 1: about this dynamic.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what is it?
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  Speaker 1: When you have a trauma that is so deeply lived
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  Speaker 1: in for one director humans, does bringing in an outsider
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  Speaker 1: like Oster risk deluding the story? Or conversely, does it
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  Speaker 1: provide the documentary with a necessary narrative balance?
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  Speaker 2: That's an interesting tension.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Does it act as an anchor that prevents the
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  Speaker 1: film from becoming completely insular? forcing them to explain the
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  Speaker 1: context in a way that a broader audience can actually digest.
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  Speaker 2: It is definitely the latter, and it's a brilliant architectural
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  Speaker 2: choice for the film. In fact, the text explicitly answers this.
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  Speaker 2: The filmmakers state that their ultimate goal is to actually
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  Speaker 2: deliver Oster's own emerging awareness to the audience.
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  Speaker 1: That is fascinating. They are using Oster's learning curve as
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  Speaker 1: the blueprint for the audience's learning curve.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. What we are observing is a metanarrative. You have
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  Speaker 2: two directors from historically conflicting cultural backgrounds. And instead of
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  Speaker 2: ignoring that friction, they are weaponizing their collaboration as a
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  Speaker 2: deliberate investigative tool.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Think about the mechanics of their partnership. Osder asks
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  Speaker 2: the fundamental questions that humans might just take for granted
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  Speaker 2: because he grew up with it. And humans provides the
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  Speaker 2: emotional gravity that prevents Oser from treating it purely as
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  Speaker 2: a detached academic exercise.
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  Speaker 1: That's brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: The collaboration itself models the exact difficult dialogue required to
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  Speaker 2: untangle the shared painful history.
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  Speaker 1: It's a literal manifestation of that American experiment they mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: Forcing disparate backgrounds into a room to just hammer out
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  Speaker 1: a singular objective truth. Right. And this unique partnership didn't
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  Speaker 1: just produce a retrospective essay. You know, it produced a
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  Speaker 1: piece of media that actively took on the burden of
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  Speaker 1: investigation itself.
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  Speaker 2: Which brings us to the actual execution of the film. Like,
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  Speaker 2: how did they build it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the methodology.
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  Speaker 2: Right. The article outlines three distinct modes of filmmaking that
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  Speaker 2: the directors utilized.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. The text says they used a blend of observational, investigative,
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  Speaker 1: and archival modes of filmmaking. And they promise that this
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  Speaker 1: blend allows them to reopen the mystery in real time.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: That's a big promise.
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  Speaker 1: They claim to be tracking new leads, bringing long buried
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  Speaker 1: records to light, and confronting the forces beyond the assassination.
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  Speaker 2: Breaking down how those three modes interact mechanistically is vital
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  Speaker 2: to understanding why the film is generating so much buzz.
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  Speaker 1: So let's dissect them, because an editor can just throw
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  Speaker 1: those three styles in a blender and hope it works.
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  Speaker 1: They have to serve distinct narrative functions. They do. Let's
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  Speaker 1: start with the archival mode. This is the foundation.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: This is the footage from 1985. It's the grainy VHS
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  Speaker 1: news reports, the photographs of the crime scene, the old
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  Speaker 1: press conferences. The archival footage anchors the viewer in the
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  Speaker 1: indisputable reality of the past. It literally proves the blast happened.
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  Speaker 2: Then you transition into the investigative mode, and this is
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  Speaker 2: the friction.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This is where the filmmakers stop being passive observers and
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  Speaker 2: start acting as detectives. Mechanistically, this is where they deploy
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  Speaker 2: FOIA requests to get those long buried records. This is
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: where they track down individuals who might have fled or
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: press government officials on why certain leads were dropped back
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  Speaker 2: in the 80s. They are actively trying to fill the
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  Speaker 2: 40-year vacuum left.
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  Speaker 1: By the FBI. And finally, you have the observational mode.
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  Speaker 1: This is the human tether. This is the camera just
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  Speaker 1: sitting quietly in a room watching how the Arab-American community,
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  Speaker 1: or Odeh's family, continues to process this grief today. It's
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  Speaker 1: capturing that generational ghost story in real time.
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  Speaker 2: It is an incredibly potent recipe. I mean, the archive
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  Speaker 2: establishes the crime, the investigation chases the alleged cover-up, and
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  Speaker 2: the observation proves why the audience should care today.
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  Speaker 1: And it's clear that this methodology struck a major chord.
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  Speaker 1: Because the film received massive critical acclaim right out of
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  Speaker 1: the gate. It did. The article highlights its debut at
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: the Sundance Film Festival, where it didn't just premiere, it
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  Speaker 1: actually won two awards. But one of those awards is
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: incredibly specific. Which one? It won the Special Grand Jury
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Prize for Journalistic Excellence. Oh, wow.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: That specific accolade cannot be overstated when we are analyzing
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the credibility of the project.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So what does this all mean? When a festival
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: like Sundance, which is fundamentally an arts festival celebrating cinematography,
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  Speaker 1: narrative pacing, and emotional resonance, chooses to carve out an
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  Speaker 1: award specifically for journalistic excellence, it sends a massive signal.
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  Speaker 2: It really does.
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  Speaker 1: To me, it implies that the jury looked at the
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  Speaker 1: film and concluded that it wasn't just a well-crafted movie,
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  Speaker 1: but that it was actively performing the rigorous, hard-nosed investigative
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: labor that the filmmakers accused the government of abandoning.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. It acts as a massive institutional endorsement of the
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: film's findings. It basically tells the public, hey, the massive
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: geopolitical claims you are about to watch aren't just fringe
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  Speaker 2: conspiracy theories. They are grounded in serious, commendable journalistic practice.
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  Speaker 1: That is huge.
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  Speaker 2: It validates the film as a legitimate act of journalism.
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  Speaker 1: And the public is actually going to have the chance
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: to judge that journalism for themselves very soon. The rollout
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: plan is officially in motion. Good. The article notes that
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Watermelon Pictures is handling the release. And they're opening the
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: film theatrically in New York and Los Angeles on October 30th,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: which will then expand into a nationwide rollout.
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  Speaker 2: It's also really important to acknowledge the scale of the
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: team required to pull something like this off.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, definitely.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: The article details a massive collaborative roster. Alongside Osder and Newmans,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the film was produced by Daniel J. Chalfin and Don Langford.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: It clearly takes an army to investigate a four-decade cold case. Yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, the executive producer list alone is extensive. You
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: have Badi Ali, Hams Ali, Hassan El-Masri, Rasha Manzuri El-Masri,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Jim Butterworth, and Diane Shamas.
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  Speaker 2: And weaving those three complex modes of filmmaking together, the archival,
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  Speaker 2: the investigative, and the observational, that fell to the editors
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  Speaker 2: Anne Alvergue and Tyler H.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Walk. Right.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: And of course, the atmosphere of the film is driven
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: by music from Dana Kaprow.
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  Speaker 1: It is just a massive coordinated effort to confront a
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  Speaker 1: massive historical silence.
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  Speaker 2: Which basically brings us back to the core mission of
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: our deep dive today.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We started at a doorway in a suburban California
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: office space in 1985. We started with a localized tragic assassination.
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  Speaker 1: But as we've traced the contours of this documentary, we've
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: seen how the shockwaves of that blast have traveled.
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  Speaker 2: They've traveled all the way to the State Department in Washington, D.C.,
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  Speaker 2: across international borders to Israel and the West Bank, and
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  Speaker 2: deep into the psyche of a marginalized community living with
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: a generational fear.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: This story bridges the gap between a domestic crime scene and...
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: global geopolitical maneuvering. And out of all that tragedy, it
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: inspired a cross-cultural cinematic partnership dedicated to just shaking the
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: dust off this file.
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  Speaker 2: And this is why it is so crucial for us
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: to unpack stories like this. We aren't just previewing a
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: movie today. We are really examining the mechanics of how
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: history is written.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: We're looking at who has the power to decide when
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: justices serve and who has the power to declare a
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  Speaker 2: case closed.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: It really highlights the vital role that independent media and
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: documentary journalism can play in our society. You know, when
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the official institutions hit a wall, or as the film alleges,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: when they are politically forced to build a wall, storytellers
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: can step in to ensure the live wire isn't just
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: buried in the sand.
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  Speaker 2: It raises an important final question for you, the listener,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: to mull over long after this deep dive in.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's hear it.
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  Speaker 2: The source text tells us that a team of independent
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: documentary filmmakers, armed with cameras and FOIA requests, managed to
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: unearth long buried records and track new leads regarding an
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: international assassination.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, a massively funded official federal investigation, equipped with international
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: jurisdiction and a $ 1 million reward, remains officially unsolved for
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: 40 years.
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  Speaker 2: The disparity between those two realities is staggering, and it
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: forces us to ask, What does that disparity ultimately suggest
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: about the structural limitations or perhaps the intentional, politically motivated
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: blind spots of institutional justice? And conversely, what does it
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: say about the persistent, enduring and perhaps unstoppable power of
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: human storytelling to demand an answer when the state refuses
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: to provide one?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if the official machinery of justice is broken
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: or jammed, maybe a camera and a stubborn refusal to
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: forget are the only tools we have left to finally
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: see the truth in the dark.