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8-17: Luigi Mangione Pleads Guilty - Which Killer Will His Fans Support Now? · Wicked Radio with Bill Adams

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  Speaker 1: I go back and forth with this, you know, with
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  Speaker 1: this case, with this Luigi Mangioni, the guy the gunned
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  Speaker 1: down the United Healthcare CEO and cold blood assassinated him
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  Speaker 1: basically last year. I go back and forth with the supporters,
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  Speaker 1: the Manginistas as we call him. Oh yeah, that's a
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  Speaker 1: real thing, because they're all confused now that he's pled
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  Speaker 1: guilty and they don't know what to do. I always
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  Speaker 1: start to think, Wow, you know, this is like mass psychosis.
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  Speaker 1: This is crazy. Then you start to realize people like that,
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  Speaker 1: the supporters of the crazy people other crazy people have
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  Speaker 1: always been Are they crazy or they're just stupid? But
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  Speaker 1: the question is, now that he's gone away, their cause
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  Speaker 1: has gone away. Where do they go now? The mangione supporters,
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  Speaker 1: the Luigi lovers, they got to go somewhere. You got
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  Speaker 1: to direct that energy somewhere to some other killer or murderer.
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  Speaker 1: I've got some ideas, but they're going somewhere. But don't
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  Speaker 1: start to think that this is a new thing. You'll
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  Speaker 1: look back in history, pretty recent history too. They've always
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  Speaker 1: been there. Never forget people on death row, get marriage
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  Speaker 1: proposals in the mail, same kind of mindset anyway, we'll
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  Speaker 1: get to it. Weird story to start off Monday, but
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  Speaker 1: here we are. Thanks for finding the Wicked Radio live
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  Speaker 1: then you download whatever on your favorite podcast platforms. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get to the news. This happened late Friday afternoon, and
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  Speaker 1: then the news talking hit programs were digesting this over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend. Here's the announcement from his lawyer outside the courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: She called it a dark and sad day. Is it
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  Speaker 1: or did he come to his senses? Maybe? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But here's Luigi Mangioni, the guy that gunned down the
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  Speaker 1: United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson last year on the courthouse
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  Speaker 1: steps after he he pled guilty.
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  Speaker 2: With today's guilty plead, mister Mancioni has accepted full responsibility
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  Speaker 2: for the death of Brian Thompson, arising from the event
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  Speaker 2: of December fourth, twenty twenty four, outside of the United
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  Speaker 2: Healthcare Investor conference here in midtown Manhattan. It was a
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  Speaker 2: single tragic event yet he's being prosecuted twice for the
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  Speaker 2: same content.
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  Speaker 1: I think if he asks Brian Thompson's family, they'd say,
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  Speaker 1: you can't prosecute him enough. But anyway, there you go.
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  Speaker 1: And you also had the announcement from the police chief
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  Speaker 1: in New York City, this is a chief tish.
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  Speaker 3: And to those who idolize Luigi Mannioni, Mangioni, I say this,
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  Speaker 3: violence is not a cause, murder is not a message,
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  Speaker 3: and a killer is certainly not a hero.
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  Speaker 1: Now, now, if you're not familiar with this case, now
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  Speaker 1: it was a massive, massive headline because it was horrifying.
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  Speaker 1: But you heard her say for those that idolize mister Mangioni,
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  Speaker 1: and you're thinking, not idolize, what is going on? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, don't forget. This has become probably the bigger
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  Speaker 1: part of the story. Are the Luigi fans that came
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  Speaker 1: out of their crazy woodwork or they're insane asylum almost
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  Speaker 1: right away, almost right away, dozens of them who are
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  Speaker 1: supporting him outside the courtroom, hundreds more in the immediate
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  Speaker 1: vicinity of the area, thousands of them across the country
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  Speaker 1: as they all took to social media to support Luigi.
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  Speaker 1: He's a hero, he's a martyr, he's a no. He
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  Speaker 1: gunned down a United Healthcare ceo, shot him in the back.
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  Speaker 1: As you heard here, both the police commissioner and his
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  Speaker 1: lawyer say he's admitted it. He's pled guilty. Now you
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  Speaker 1: heard some of these nutcases say, it doesn't necessarily mean
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  Speaker 1: he's saying that he did it. He just pled guilty
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  Speaker 1: to murdering them. They knew he did it. They have
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  Speaker 1: all the evidence they needed, and this just kind of
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  Speaker 1: like puts it on the fast track to putting them
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  Speaker 1: away in the funny farm forever. But now this has
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  Speaker 1: led the Luigi supporters into a level they weren't expecting.
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  Speaker 1: They don't know what to think about this right now.
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  Speaker 1: And there's another thing I was thinking. I thought they
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  Speaker 1: were just crazy. I really think, and you may agree
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  Speaker 1: when you hear these people, I think they just dumb.
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  Speaker 1: I think they just exhibit a. Here's when that guilty
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  Speaker 1: plea was fed into the court system. Here's our first
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  Speaker 1: genius who's trying to justify it in her own head
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  Speaker 1: and not really getting the job done.
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  Speaker 4: It's wrong that he murdered someone, regardless of why he
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  Speaker 4: did it.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone has a different opinion and I'm not going to
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  Speaker 5: say it was wrong or right, because I do think
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  Speaker 5: I exist within a gray area of the opinions around
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  Speaker 5: this case. But I see it more as a revolutionary
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  Speaker 5: active protests of the likes of which we haven't seen
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  Speaker 5: since the civil rights my reactions in court relief, I
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  Speaker 5: guess is the word I think for a very long time.
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  Speaker 1: I say it more as a revolutionary act of violence
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  Speaker 1: we have not seen since the several riots moment. So
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  Speaker 1: that's that's exhibit A of what you got here. But
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  Speaker 1: then we move on to this beauty. Here's another one.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of the ones that's been there from
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  Speaker 1: the beginning, one of the Manginistas. That's right, that's what
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  Speaker 1: they were calling themselves to listen to this brain trust.
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  Speaker 4: I would say it wasn't It was weird to hear
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  Speaker 4: him say it like guilty, Yes, like I plead guilty
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  Speaker 4: and yes I understand all these charges and kind of
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  Speaker 4: give his own statement.
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  Speaker 2: Ironic.
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  Speaker 4: Glad to find out both on the same sleep medication,
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  Speaker 4: so that's a little bonding moment there, Yeah, and just
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  Speaker 4: it was kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did find out he was on sleep medication,
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  Speaker 1: so we're bonding moment there. This is what we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about here. I got to get to this out of
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  Speaker 1: the way before we go into the more of the
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  Speaker 1: maginists who we first met when this first happened, you know,
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  Speaker 1: immediately they came out of the woodwork. They heard that
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  Speaker 1: a United Healthcare CEO was killed, and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: this became a hero. They don't care about the act
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  Speaker 1: of violence, they don't care about how it was done,
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  Speaker 1: the cowardice of it, the family that this guy left behind.
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  Speaker 1: And let me just say this, and I remember saying
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  Speaker 1: this to you guys at the time, nobody hates our
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  Speaker 1: healthcare system more than me. I absolutely hated This is
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  Speaker 1: why I tried my absolute best. My family does too,
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  Speaker 1: to try to avoid doctors, the healthcare system as much
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  Speaker 1: as you possibly can, right, to try to avoid that crap.
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  Speaker 1: I've been there where I'm waiting for my daughter to
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  Speaker 1: have a surgery, and less than twelve hours before we're there,
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  Speaker 1: and that very same city, by the way, we're told
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  Speaker 1: by the insurance company that it's not going to be covered.
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  Speaker 1: I've been through it, I get it, I understand it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let me just get that out of the way. Not
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  Speaker 1: once have I or any normal person ever thought to
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  Speaker 1: track down the CEO of the healthcare company and shoot
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  Speaker 1: him in cold blood. But that's just me and you.
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  Speaker 1: I guess we're the crazy ones. You know. We never
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  Speaker 1: did and we never became a hero to these lunatics.
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  Speaker 1: But again, remember, right after this incident happened, it was
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  Speaker 1: in record time, almost as if this wasn't organic. You
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  Speaker 1: had the man Genistas organizing. Now this is from last year.
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  Speaker 1: But here they are nice, nice caring people, aren't there.
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  Speaker 3: Brian Thompson, That's all I want to fay Brian Tompson, Mom,
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  Speaker 3: that lady been on.
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  Speaker 1: His children are cutter off without him.
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  Speaker 5: They enjoyed the.
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  Speaker 1: Money, and f Brian Thompson. You know the guy that
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  Speaker 1: just got killed. This was days after it. This is
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  Speaker 1: immediately after it. They other lunatic at the end there
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  Speaker 1: his children are better off without him, enjoy the blood money. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's uh, that's pretty special. You know again, I
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  Speaker 1: kind of hinted around at this in the introduction, though,
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  Speaker 1: It's easy to fall into this trap because we're so
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  Speaker 1: engulfed by social media these days, because news is immediate,
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  Speaker 1: we see so much of it. I mean, even this
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  Speaker 1: case with the Luigi case. Even if you weren't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: really familiar with all the details, you've heard of it
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  Speaker 1: at least, right, because we're in the information age and
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  Speaker 1: we get so much of this stuff now. So these
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  Speaker 1: absolute lunatics that are saying he's better off dead, his
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  Speaker 1: children are better off without him. He's a hero, he's
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  Speaker 1: a martyr. It's easy to think that this is a
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  Speaker 1: new thing because we see it all the time time now, right,
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  Speaker 1: It's not a new thing when you look back. There
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  Speaker 1: have always been these absolute crazy people who attach themselves
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  Speaker 1: to the other, absolute crazy people who have done the
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  Speaker 1: worst things of all. I'll give you a little example,
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  Speaker 1: and this has happened through It's just human nature. This
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  Speaker 1: has happened throughout history. But this wasn't that long ago.
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  Speaker 1: It's before our was born, probably before you were born too.
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  Speaker 1: But it's nineteen sixty nine member Helter Skelter and the
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  Speaker 1: Manson Girls. He was able to, this little troll of
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  Speaker 1: a human being, was able to convince this cult like
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  Speaker 1: gathering of women that followed him to commit murder. Not
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  Speaker 1: only that during his murder trial and their trial, they
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  Speaker 1: still supported them throughout the entire thing. Do you remember
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  Speaker 1: that Now you audio only listeners, you can't really see this.
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  Speaker 1: But this is them marching down a la hall in
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  Speaker 1: the courtroom, singing songs, still supporting them. This is in
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  Speaker 1: the late sixties. This is nothing more about sound familiar,
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  Speaker 1: eerily familiar to the man Ginistas who are still supporting him. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it was an admission of guilt. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's a here. He just turned to his lawyer
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  Speaker 1: and said, I'm pleading guilty. Let's get out of this
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  Speaker 1: and get the best deal we can possibly get. Admitted
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  Speaker 1: to doing that and they can't even see that. You're
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  Speaker 1: going with this. This is where we are. But where
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  Speaker 1: did they go? You heard it there? They don't know
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  Speaker 1: what to do. They've supported him since December of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four, almost immediately. This has been like their life,
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  Speaker 1: cause that kind of crazy, crazy energy doesn't just go away.
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  Speaker 1: They have to direct it somewhere else, like it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: just dissipate. Now that he's pled guilty, they're not just
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  Speaker 1: going to follow him his story from behind bars. No,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing to appear to. There's no more court appearances,
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  Speaker 1: no more cameras they can run to, no more statements
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  Speaker 1: or interviews. They can give. So that energy is like,
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  Speaker 1: it's got to go somewhere. So where did they go?
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  Speaker 1: Where did they go? They got to support some other
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  Speaker 1: kind of killer, like the Maginistas, the one saying, enjoy
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  Speaker 1: the blood money. His kids are better off without him.
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  Speaker 1: He's a martyr, he's a hero. Right. Who else in
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  Speaker 1: society in recent history would they have supported? Who do
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  Speaker 1: you think we already had the Manson thing? They would
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  Speaker 1: have been just like the Manson girls. And I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 1: as soon as this story broke and they immediately had
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  Speaker 1: his supporters almost almost all female by the way, which
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  Speaker 1: I thought was interesting. It reminded me immediately of the
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  Speaker 1: Manson family, those girls. There's something eerily similar to it,
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  Speaker 1: something really similar. Does this attraction to the most evil thing,
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  Speaker 1: the people sitting behind bars on death row where they
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  Speaker 1: get love letters and marriage proposals and visitations. It's not new.
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  Speaker 1: So if they went back in time in the Maginista chicks,
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  Speaker 1: this Luigi cult, if you went back in time, who
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  Speaker 1: else would they have supported? What other mass murderers would
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  Speaker 1: they have supported? The same people? Ted Bundy he had
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  Speaker 1: supporters because he was they said, an attractive guy before
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  Speaker 1: they put him to death. He was a mass murderer,
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  Speaker 1: he was a serial killer. They would have supported him,
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  Speaker 1: these same people, you know they would have who else
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  Speaker 1: like somebody like the unibomber. You think these same people,
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  Speaker 1: if they were old enough back in the day, would
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  Speaker 1: have supported him when they finally caught him. Oh he's not.
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  Speaker 1: He's not as in the mass murderer. He's he was
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  Speaker 1: just trying to send a message about society and the oligarchs.
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  Speaker 1: You know they would have, You absolutely know they would have.
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  Speaker 1: But there's something else. This has to go somewhere, Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, all of this evil, wicked energy has to
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  Speaker 1: go somewhere. Where they go now, though, this is the
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  Speaker 1: big question. I have one prediction. I think they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: support one specific person now because it's always in the news.
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  Speaker 1: They go to the hottest trend, They support the craziest,
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  Speaker 1: most evil people, and they justified all the way around.
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  Speaker 1: And it's in a weird way. Maybe not these specific
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  Speaker 1: women yet, not the Luigi supporters yet, but it's already happening.
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  Speaker 1: How about Lindsey Clancy, She's the Massachusetts mom who killed
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  Speaker 1: her kids who is on trial right now. In this
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna go into it in the sickest,
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  Speaker 1: most disgusting way. Have you seen the support and the
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  Speaker 1: GoFundMe set up for this chick? Oh yeah, that's raised
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars for her. She's breaking down
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  Speaker 1: in cord admitting she didn't do it. I hope you're
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  Speaker 1: not spending too much time in the comment section for
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  Speaker 1: the new story of this, Lindsay Clancy chick. I'll try
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  Speaker 1: to save you from that. And I'm not even going
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  Speaker 1: back into it because the justification for this murder of
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  Speaker 1: her own children that she's admitted to, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: it's the sickest thing you could ever possibly imagine. It's
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  Speaker 1: absolutely horrific. People say, I saw the new trend. Now
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  Speaker 1: get this. The new trend is she couldn't have done
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  Speaker 1: it because she's a Libra's sorry, there's no justifying that.
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  Speaker 1: There's no wrap in your head, there's no wrapping your
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  Speaker 1: normal brain around that kind of psychosis. You just can't
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  Speaker 1: do it. Justifying that she didn't do it she was
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  Speaker 1: under stress, and then the medical excuses and then everything.
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  Speaker 1: Get That's why I say, and here's my prediction. These
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  Speaker 1: very same people that were outside the courtroom and they're
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  Speaker 1: on social media, and they've raised funds, and they've organized,
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  Speaker 1: and they've come up with their posters and their T
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  Speaker 1: shirts for Luigi MANGIONI. Now that he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: out of the news and very few court appearances coming
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  Speaker 1: up from here on out, they got to put that
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  Speaker 1: sick energy somewhere. I think they're going to send it
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  Speaker 1: towards Lindsay Clancy in Massachusetts, the murdering mom I think anyway.
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  Speaker 1: That's just my opinion. But the takeaway is because this
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  Speaker 1: stuff in the information age can start to drive you
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  Speaker 1: really crazy. I totally get it. That's why I go
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  Speaker 1: through this stuff and try to save you from it.
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  Speaker 1: It's easy to think that this is a new phenomenon
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  Speaker 1: where these new sickos will support the most degenerate murderers
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  Speaker 1: that we have in society. It's not new. And if
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  Speaker 1: you ever want an example, and the next time you
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  Speaker 1: see on some clip on reels or social media or
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  Speaker 1: even actual mainstream newscasting, you start to see these sikos
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  Speaker 1: supporting somebody like Luigi, remind yourself of the Charles Manson Girls,
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  Speaker 1: And if you're not familiar with them, just look back
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  Speaker 1: and look at some of their videos. Eerily similar. They've
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  Speaker 1: always been there, They've always been crazy, but that crazy
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  Speaker 1: energy goes somewhere else, so just hopefully not in your
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  Speaker 1: life anywhere or mine. Who knows. Anyway, you can hear
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  Speaker 1: a lot less from those nutcases soon, hope. Anyway, thanks
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  Speaker 1: for finding me. I appreciate you making a wicked awesme Monday.
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