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MC Fireside Chats - October 6th, 2021 · MC Fireside Chats, an Outdoor Hospitality Podcast

• 0:51
  Good
• 0:51
  morning,
• 0:52
  everybody.
• 0:52
  Welcome
• 0:52
  to
• 0:52
  another
• 0:53
  episode
• 0:53
  of
• 0:53
  MC
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  Fireside
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  Chats.
• 0:54
  My
• 0:54
  name
• 0:54
  is
• 0:54
  Brian
• 0:55
  Searl
• 0:55
  with
• 0:55
  Insider
• 0:56
  Perks,
• 0:56
  super
• 0:57
  excited
• 0:58
  to
• 0:58
  be
• 0:58
  here
• 0:58
  with
• 0:58
  Cara
• 0:59
  as
• 0:59
  always
• 0:59
  Cara
• 1:00
  Csizmadia
• 1:00
  from
• 1:00
  the
• 1:00
  Canadian
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  Camping
• 1:01
  RV
• 1:02
  Council.
• 1:02
  And
• 1:02
  Mr.
• 1:02
  Darryle
• 1:03
  Busa
• 1:03
  the
• 1:03
  editor
• 1:04
  in
• 1:04
  chief
• 1:04
  of
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  Modern
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  Campground.
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  Our
• 1:06
  first,
• 1:07
  like
• 1:07
  we've
• 1:07
  been
• 1:08
  doing
• 1:08
  these
• 1:08
  open
• 1:08
  discussion
• 1:09
  shows
• 1:09
  for
• 1:09
  a
• 1:09
  long
• 1:09
  time,
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  and
• 1:10
  this
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  is
• 1:10
  the
• 1:10
  first
• 1:11
  time
• 1:11
  where
• 1:11
  we're
• 1:12
  going
• 1:12
  to
• 1:12
  have
• 1:12
  this
• 1:12
  panel
• 1:13
  of
• 1:13
  recurrent
• 1:13
  guests,
• 1:14
  half
• 1:14
  of
• 1:14
  which
• 1:14
  didn't
• 1:15
  show
• 1:15
  up
• 1:15
  and
• 1:15
  half
• 1:15
  of
• 1:15
  which
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  will
• 1:16
  show
• 1:16
  up
• 1:16
  next
• 1:16
  time,
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  because
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  it's
• 1:18
  not
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  their
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  fault
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  to
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  be
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  clear.
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  Like
• 1:20
  it's
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  always
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  something
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  that
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  blows
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  up
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  when
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  you're
• 1:22
  doing
• 1:23
  internet
• 1:23
  streaming
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  shows
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  or
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  whatever
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  else,
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  whether
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  it's
• 1:25
  time
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  zones
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  or
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  coordination
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  or
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  whatever,
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  but
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  it
• 1:27
  wouldn't
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  be
• 1:27
  exciting
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  otherwise.
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  So
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  I
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  feel
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  like
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  it's
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  a
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  good
• 1:29
  thing.
• 1:30
  It
• 1:30
  would
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  just
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  be
• 1:30
  boring
• 1:30
  and
• 1:30
  bland
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  but
• 1:31
  really
• 1:31
  excited,
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  with
• 1:32
  our
• 1:32
  open
• 1:32
  discussion
• 1:33
  show.
• 1:33
  For
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  those
• 1:33
  of
• 1:34
  you
• 1:34
  who
• 1:34
  don't
• 1:34
  know,
• 1:34
  we
• 1:34
  have
• 1:35
  just
• 1:36
  normally
• 1:36
  it's
• 1:36
  just
• 1:36
  me,
• 1:36
  Cara,
• 1:37
  and
• 1:37
  Darryle
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  now,
• 1:38
  and
• 1:38
  then
• 1:38
  maybe
• 1:38
  a
• 1:38
  special
• 1:39
  guest
• 1:39
  here
• 1:39
  and
• 1:39
  there,
• 1:40
  but
• 1:40
  we're
• 1:40
  just
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  talking
• 1:40
  about
• 1:40
  the
• 1:40
  latest
• 1:41
  news
• 1:41
  and
• 1:41
  topics
• 1:42
  and
• 1:42
  things
• 1:42
  like
• 1:42
  that.
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  And
• 1:42
  yeah.
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  I
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  feel
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  like
• 1:44
  I
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  didn't
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  see
• 1:45
  the
• 1:45
  emails,
• 1:45
  but
• 1:46
  I
• 1:46
  feel
• 1:46
  like
• 1:46
  somebody
• 1:46
  was
• 1:47
  constantly
• 1:47
  emailing
• 1:48
  Cara
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  and
• 1:48
  complaining
• 1:49
  that
• 1:49
  it
• 1:49
  was
• 1:49
  just
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  me
• 1:49
  talking
• 1:50
  too
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  much
• 1:50
  on
• 1:50
  these
• 1:51
  shows.
• 1:51
  And
• 1:51
  so
• 1:51
  we
• 1:51
  invited
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  new
• 1:53
  guests
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  on
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  here.
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  So
• 1:54
  you,
• 1:54
  Cara
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  is
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  not
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  in
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  your
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  head.
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  She
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  knows.
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  Yeah.
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  So
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  we've
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  set
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  up
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  a
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  panel
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  of
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  new
• 1:57
  guests
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  here.
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  Some
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  of
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  them
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  are
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  glamping
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  the
• 1:59
  glamping
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  show
• 2:00
  USA,
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  like
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  a
• 2:00
  bunch
• 2:01
  of
• 2:01
  them
• 2:01
  are.
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  And
• 2:01
  so
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  we've
• 2:02
  got
• 2:02
  Casey
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  who
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  live
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  from
• 2:03
  the
• 2:03
  glamping
• 2:04
  show
• 2:04
  from
• 2:04
  camp
• 2:05
  spot
• 2:05
  here
• 2:05
  is
• 2:05
  going
• 2:05
  to
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  be
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  one
• 2:06
  of
• 2:06
  our
• 2:06
  regular
• 2:06
  guests.
• 2:06
  We're
• 2:06
  going
• 2:06
  to
• 2:06
  go
• 2:06
  around
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  and
• 2:07
  do
• 2:07
  intros
• 2:07
  for
• 2:07
  bios,
• 2:08
  for
• 2:08
  people.
• 2:08
  Randy
• 2:09
  Hendrickson
• 2:09
  normally
• 2:09
  would
• 2:10
  be
• 2:10
  on
• 2:10
  the
• 2:10
  show
• 2:10
  with
• 2:10
  us.
• 2:10
  And
• 2:10
  we'll
• 2:11
  be
• 2:11
  the
• 2:11
  follow-up
• 2:11
  the
• 2:11
  future
• 2:12
  open
• 2:12
  discussion
• 2:12
  shows
• 2:13
  that
• 2:13
  he
• 2:13
  is
• 2:13
  in
• 2:13
  back-to-back
• 2:14
  meetings
• 2:14
  at
• 2:14
  the
• 2:14
  glamping
• 2:15
  show.
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  I
• 2:15
  think
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  Scott's
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  at
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  the
• 2:16
  glamping
• 2:16
  show
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  too.
• 2:17
  Are
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  you
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  there,
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  Scott?
• 2:18
  Yeah,
• 2:18
  that's
• 2:19
  right.
• 2:19
  I
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  don't
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  know
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  if
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  you
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  can
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  see
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  all
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  the
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  cool
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  structures
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  behind
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  me
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  Scott's
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  outside.
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  Like
• 2:23
  how
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  did
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  you
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  get
• 2:24
  stuck
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  inside
• 2:25
  Casey
• 2:25
  Scott?
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  Yeah,
• 2:26
  it's
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  beautiful
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  working
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  there.
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  So
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  he
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  must
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  have
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  the
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  VIP
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  pass
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  or
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  something.
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  I
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  did
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  get
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  a
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  special.
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  Okay,
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  rock
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  and
• 2:37
  roll.
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  Alright.
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  So
• 2:39
  yeah,
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  we're
• 2:40
  got
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  a
• 2:40
  couple
• 2:40
  of
• 2:40
  people
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  live
• 2:41
  from
• 2:41
  the
• 2:41
  gladly
• 2:41
  show.
• 2:41
  We're
• 2:41
  going
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  to
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  talk
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  about
• 2:42
  that
• 2:42
  kind
• 2:42
  of
• 2:42
  stuff.
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  We
• 2:43
  got
• 2:43
  Curt
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  pan
• 2:44
  check.
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  Is
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  that,
• 2:44
  how
• 2:44
  am
• 2:44
  I
• 2:45
  pronouncing
• 2:45
  it?
• 2:46
  Yeah,
• 2:46
  you
• 2:46
  got
• 2:46
  the
• 2:46
  Curt
• 2:47
  part.
• 2:47
  All
• 2:47
  right.
• 2:47
  How
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  do
• 2:47
  I
• 2:47
  say
• 2:48
  it
• 2:48
  then?
• 2:49
  Reverend
• 2:49
  Jack
• 2:50
  repping
• 2:51
  check.
• 2:51
  Okay.
• 2:52
  All
• 2:52
  right,
• 2:53
  got
• 2:53
  it.
• 2:53
  I
• 2:53
  won't
• 2:53
  mess
• 2:54
  it
• 2:54
  up
• 2:54
  again.
• 2:54
  So
• 2:54
  Kurt
• 2:55
  reppin
• 2:55
  check
• 2:55
  is
• 2:55
  here
• 2:55
  from
• 2:55
  national
• 2:56
  parks
• 2:56
  traveler.
• 2:57
  For
• 2:57
  those
• 2:57
  of
• 2:57
  you
• 2:57
  who
• 2:57
  don't
• 2:58
  know
• 2:58
  him
• 2:58
  in
• 2:58
  the
• 2:58
  industry
• 2:59
  I'm
• 2:59
  going
• 2:59
  to
• 2:59
  let
• 3:00
  him
• 3:00
  give
• 3:00
  his
• 3:00
  bio
• 3:00
  in
• 3:00
  a
• 3:00
  second,
• 3:01
  but
• 3:01
  super
• 3:01
  cool
• 3:02
  publication.
• 3:02
  That's
• 3:03
  been
• 3:03
  around
• 3:03
  for
• 3:03
  quite
• 3:03
  a
• 3:03
  number
• 3:04
  of
• 3:04
  years
• 3:04
  now,
• 3:05
  focusing
• 3:05
  on
• 3:05
  national
• 3:06
  parks
• 3:06
  and
• 3:06
  those
• 3:06
  issues
• 3:06
  and
• 3:06
  things
• 3:07
  like
• 3:07
  that.
• 3:07
  And
• 3:07
  so
• 3:08
  I
• 3:08
  think
• 3:08
  we're
• 3:08
  missing
• 3:08
  Sandy
• 3:09
  Ellenson,
• 3:10
  Ellingson,
• 3:10
  too,
• 3:11
  who
• 3:12
  is
• 3:12
  a
• 3:12
  RV
• 3:13
  industry
• 3:13
  consultant.
• 3:14
  She
• 3:14
  was
• 3:14
  supposed
• 3:15
  to
• 3:15
  be
• 3:15
  live
• 3:15
  from
• 3:15
  the
• 3:15
  Albuquerque
• 3:16
  balloon
• 3:16
  Fiesta.
• 3:17
  She's
• 3:17
  down
• 3:17
  there
• 3:17
  traveling
• 3:18
  as
• 3:18
  well.
• 3:18
  So
• 3:18
  hopefully
• 3:19
  she'll
• 3:19
  join
• 3:19
  us.
• 3:19
  Mark
• 3:20
  cap
• 3:20
  is
• 3:20
  somewhere
• 3:20
  floating
• 3:21
  around
• 3:21
  the
• 3:21
  glamping
• 3:22
  show
• 3:22
  too.
• 3:22
  So
• 3:23
  it
• 3:23
  just
• 3:23
  conferences
• 3:24
  are
• 3:24
  taking
• 3:25
  a
• 3:25
  bite
• 3:25
  out
• 3:25
  of
• 3:25
  our
• 3:25
  show
• 3:25
  today,
• 3:26
  but
• 3:26
  we're
• 3:26
  going
• 3:26
  to
• 3:26
  have
• 3:26
  a
• 3:26
  good
• 3:26
  discussion.
• 3:27
  So
• 3:27
  let's
• 3:27
  go
• 3:27
  around
• 3:28
  and
• 3:28
  just
• 3:28
  have
• 3:29
  Kurt.
• 3:29
  You
• 3:29
  want
• 3:29
  to
• 3:29
  start
• 3:29
  and
• 3:29
  just
• 3:30
  introduce
• 3:30
  give
• 3:30
  yourself,
• 3:31
  give
• 3:31
  an
• 3:31
  extended
• 3:31
  bio
• 3:32
  right
• 3:32
  first
• 3:32
  time
• 3:32
  on
• 3:32
  the
• 3:32
  show,
• 3:33
  but
• 3:33
  people
• 3:33
  in
• 3:33
  the
• 3:33
  industry
• 3:34
  don't
• 3:34
  know,
• 3:35
  I
• 3:35
  think
• 3:35
  who
• 3:35
  you
• 3:35
  are
• 3:36
  as
• 3:36
  much
• 3:36
  as
• 3:36
  they
• 3:36
  should.
• 3:37
  All
• 3:37
  right.
• 3:38
  National
• 3:38
  parks
• 3:38
  traveler
• 3:39
  is
• 3:39
  a
• 3:39
  nonprofit
• 3:40
  news
• 3:40
  organization
• 3:41
  that
• 3:42
  is
• 3:42
  focused
• 3:42
  specifically
• 3:43
  on
• 3:43
  national
• 3:43
  parks
• 3:44
  and
• 3:44
  protected
• 3:44
  areas
• 3:45
  predominantly
• 3:46
  across
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  United
• 3:46
  States.
• 3:47
  But
• 3:47
  we
• 3:47
  did
• 3:47
  establish
• 3:48
  a
• 3:48
  Canadian
• 3:48
  presence
• 3:49
  this
• 3:49
  year.
• 3:49
  And
• 3:50
  the
• 3:50
  law
• 3:50
  Green's
• 3:50
  goal
• 3:51
  is
• 3:51
  to
• 3:51
  cover
• 3:51
  national
• 3:52
  parks,
• 3:52
  the
• 3:52
  world
• 3:53
  over.
• 3:53
  And
• 3:54
  it's
• 3:54
  a
• 3:54
  a
• 3:54
  hybrid
• 3:55
  between
• 3:55
  a
• 3:56
  daily
• 3:56
  newspaper
• 3:57
  as
• 3:57
  well
• 3:57
  as
• 3:58
  a
• 3:58
  magazine
• 3:58
  because
• 3:59
  we
• 3:59
  do
• 3:59
  daily
• 4:00
  news
• 4:00
  coverage
• 4:01
  on
• 4:01
  things
• 4:01
  like
• 4:02
  the
• 4:02
  young
• 4:02
  lady
• 4:02
  who
• 4:02
  fell
• 4:02
  into
• 4:03
  a
• 4:03
  hot
• 4:03
  spring
• 4:03
  in
• 4:03
  Yellowstone
• 4:04
  national
• 4:04
  park
• 4:05
  alert.
• 4:05
  The
• 4:05
  bear
• 4:05
  attack
• 4:06
  incident
• 4:06
  in
• 4:06
  great
• 4:07
  smoky
• 4:07
  mountains,
• 4:07
  national
• 4:08
  park,
• 4:08
  of
• 4:08
  course,
• 4:08
  the
• 4:08
  wildfires
• 4:09
  out
• 4:09
  in
• 4:09
  Sequoia
• 4:10
  national
• 4:10
  park.
• 4:11
  And
• 4:11
  then
• 4:11
  we
• 4:11
  do
• 4:11
  a
• 4:12
  longer
• 4:12
  features
• 4:13
  that
• 4:13
  either
• 4:14
  a
• 4:14
  travel
• 4:14
  log
• 4:14
  type
• 4:15
  piece,
• 4:15
  how
• 4:15
  to
• 4:15
  enjoy
• 4:16
  a
• 4:16
  specific
• 4:16
  park
• 4:17
  or
• 4:17
  a,
• 4:18
  that
• 4:18
  delves
• 4:18
  into
• 4:18
  an
• 4:18
  issue
• 4:19
  I'm
• 4:19
  a
• 4:19
  little
• 4:19
  bit
• 4:20
  more
• 4:20
  deeply
• 4:20
  than
• 4:20
  you'll
• 4:21
  see
• 4:21
  most
• 4:22
  out
• 4:22
  there
• 4:22
  on
• 4:22
  most
• 4:23
  media
• 4:23
  outlets.
• 4:23
  For
• 4:24
  instance,
• 4:24
  we've
• 4:24
  got
• 4:24
  a
• 4:24
  story
• 4:25
  coming
• 4:25
  up,
• 4:25
  hopefully
• 4:26
  this
• 4:26
  Sunday
• 4:26
  about
• 4:27
  the
• 4:27
  Chesapeake
• 4:27
  bay
• 4:28
  area
• 4:28
  and
• 4:28
  efforts
• 4:29
  to
• 4:29
  make
• 4:29
  it
• 4:29
  part
• 4:29
  of
• 4:29
  the
• 4:30
  national
• 4:30
  park
• 4:30
  system
• 4:31
  and
• 4:31
  some
• 4:31
  of
• 4:31
  the
• 4:31
  unique
• 4:31
  stories
• 4:32
  that
• 4:33
  the
• 4:33
  bay
• 4:33
  has
• 4:33
  out
• 4:34
  there
• 4:34
  to
• 4:34
  tell
• 4:34
  to
• 4:34
  people.
• 4:35
  So
• 4:35
  it's
• 4:35
  a
• 4:36
  nonprofit.
• 4:38
  News
• 4:38
  organization
• 4:39
  that
• 4:39
  covers
• 4:40
  everything
• 4:40
  in
• 4:40
  anything
• 4:41
  involving
• 4:41
  national
• 4:42
  parks
• 4:42
  and
• 4:42
  protected
• 4:42
  areas.
• 4:44
  And
• 4:44
  so
• 4:44
  one
• 4:44
  of
• 4:44
  the
• 4:44
  reasons
• 4:45
  we
• 4:45
  had
• 4:45
  wanted
• 4:45
  to
• 4:45
  bring
• 4:45
  you
• 4:46
  on,
• 4:46
  and
• 4:46
  we'll
• 4:46
  explore
• 4:46
  this
• 4:47
  a
• 4:47
  little
• 4:47
  bit,
• 4:47
  as
• 4:47
  the
• 4:48
  shows
• 4:48
  go
• 4:48
  on
• 4:48
  as
• 4:48
  you
• 4:49
  have
• 4:49
  these
• 4:49
  regular
• 4:49
  appearances
• 4:50
  with
• 4:50
  us,
• 4:50
  Kurt,
• 4:50
  is
• 4:50
  it
• 4:51
  we
• 4:51
  want
• 4:51
  it,
• 4:51
  we
• 4:51
  felt
• 4:51
  like
• 4:52
  there's
• 4:52
  more
• 4:52
  of
• 4:52
  a
• 4:52
  symmetry
• 4:53
  here
• 4:53
  that
• 4:53
  people
• 4:54
  aren't
• 4:54
  exploring
• 4:54
  as
• 4:54
  much
• 4:55
  as
• 4:55
  they
• 4:55
  should
• 4:55
  between
• 4:56
  private
• 4:56
  campgrounds
• 4:56
  and
• 4:57
  national
• 4:57
  parks.
• 4:57
  It's
• 4:57
  a,
• 4:57
  it's
• 4:58
  an
• 4:58
  interesting
• 4:58
  dynamic
• 4:59
  there
• 4:59
  because
• 5:00
  you've
• 5:00
  got
• 5:00
  the
• 5:00
  national
• 5:01
  park
• 5:01
  system
• 5:02
  and
• 5:02
  their
• 5:03
  long-term
• 5:03
  philosophy
• 5:04
  on
• 5:05
  how
• 5:05
  to
• 5:05
  manage
• 5:05
  the
• 5:05
  parks.
• 5:06
  And
• 5:06
  you
• 5:06
  don't
• 5:07
  see
• 5:07
  as
• 5:07
  many
• 5:07
  amenities
• 5:08
  in
• 5:08
  the
• 5:09
  national
• 5:09
  park
• 5:09
  campgrounds
• 5:10
  for
• 5:10
  our
• 5:10
  veers
• 5:11
  and
• 5:11
  whatnot.
• 5:12
  And
• 5:12
  then
• 5:12
  you've
• 5:12
  got
• 5:12
  the
• 5:13
  commercial
• 5:13
  outfits
• 5:14
  outside
• 5:14
  the
• 5:14
  national
• 5:15
  parks,
• 5:15
  which
• 5:15
  provide
• 5:16
  those
• 5:16
  opportunities.
• 5:17
  And
• 5:17
  so
• 5:17
  between
• 5:18
  the
• 5:18
  two,
• 5:18
  hopefully
• 5:20
  we
• 5:20
  can
• 5:20
  meet
• 5:20
  all
• 5:20
  needs
• 5:21
  of
• 5:21
  our
• 5:21
  veers,
• 5:22
  whether
• 5:22
  you
• 5:22
  are.
• 5:23
  Hold
• 5:23
  on
• 5:23
  a
• 5:23
  fifth
• 5:24
  wheel
• 5:24
  or
• 5:24
  just
• 5:24
  got
• 5:25
  a
• 5:25
  camper
• 5:25
  on
• 5:25
  the
• 5:25
  back
• 5:25
  of
• 5:25
  your
• 5:26
  pickup
• 5:26
  truck.
• 5:26
  And
• 5:26
  it's
• 5:27
  interesting
• 5:27
  to
• 5:27
  see
• 5:27
  how
• 5:27
  they're
• 5:28
  evolving
• 5:28
  because
• 5:28
  right
• 5:29
  now
• 5:29
  the
• 5:29
  national
• 5:29
  park
• 5:29
  service
• 5:31
  for
• 5:31
  some
• 5:31
  months
• 5:31
  has
• 5:32
  been
• 5:32
  studying
• 5:32
  exactly
• 5:33
  what
• 5:33
  should
• 5:33
  the
• 5:34
  21st
• 5:34
  century
• 5:35
  Campground
• 5:35
  look
• 5:35
  like.
• 5:36
  And
• 5:36
  I
• 5:36
  know
• 5:37
  there's
• 5:37
  been
• 5:37
  a
• 5:37
  lot
• 5:37
  of
• 5:37
  input
• 5:38
  on,
• 5:38
  how
• 5:38
  do
• 5:38
  we
• 5:38
  deal
• 5:39
  with
• 5:39
  the
• 5:40
  growing
• 5:40
  size
• 5:40
  of
• 5:41
  RVs
• 5:42
  and
• 5:42
  how
• 5:42
  many
• 5:42
  hookups
• 5:43
  do
• 5:43
  we
• 5:43
  provide
• 5:44
  and
• 5:44
  should
• 5:44
  there
• 5:45
  be
• 5:45
  food
• 5:45
  stores
• 5:46
  at
• 5:46
  campgrounds?
• 5:47
  And
• 5:47
  what
• 5:47
  about
• 5:47
  wifi?
• 5:48
  Everybody
• 5:48
  wants
• 5:48
  more
• 5:49
  and
• 5:49
  more
• 5:49
  wifi.
• 5:50
  And
• 5:50
  does
• 5:50
  it
• 5:50
  properly,
• 5:51
  does
• 5:51
  it
• 5:51
  deserve
• 5:51
  to
• 5:52
  have
• 5:52
  a
• 5:52
  place
• 5:53
  in
• 5:53
  national
• 5:53
  parks?
• 5:56
  Yeah,
• 5:56
  so
• 5:57
  I
• 5:57
  can
• 5:57
  imagine
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  thousands
• 5:58
  of
• 5:58
  different
• 5:58
  topics
• 5:59
  we're
• 5:59
  going
• 5:59
  to
• 5:59
  delve
• 5:59
  in
• 5:59
  there,
• 5:59
  but
• 5:59
  let's
• 6:00
  maybe
• 6:00
  not
• 6:00
  just
• 6:00
  today,
• 6:01
  but
• 6:01
  as
• 6:01
  we
• 6:01
  ongoing
• 6:02
  and
• 6:02
  consider
• 6:02
  a
• 6:02
  relationship,
• 6:03
  mC
• 6:03
  Fireside
• 6:04
  Chats
• 6:04
  and
• 6:04
  super
• 6:04
  excited
• 6:05
  about
• 6:05
  that.
• 6:05
  Let's
• 6:05
  go
• 6:06
  to
• 6:06
  Casey,
• 6:06
  who
• 6:06
  is
• 6:06
  live
• 6:07
  from
• 6:07
  the
• 6:07
  glamping
• 6:07
  show.
• 6:08
  Cause
• 6:08
  he's
• 6:08
  got
• 6:08
  to,
• 6:09
  he's
• 6:09
  got
• 6:09
  to
• 6:09
  leave
• 6:09
  us
• 6:09
  a
• 6:09
  little
• 6:09
  bit
• 6:10
  early,
• 6:10
  cause
• 6:10
  he's
• 6:10
  super
• 6:10
  busy
• 6:11
  and
• 6:11
  camp
• 6:11
  spots
• 6:11
  amazingly
• 6:12
  popular.
• 6:12
  Apparently
• 6:13
  I've
• 6:13
  never
• 6:13
  heard
• 6:13
  of
• 6:13
  them.
• 6:13
  So
• 6:14
  just
• 6:14
  tell
• 6:14
  us
• 6:14
  who
• 6:14
  is
• 6:15
  Camping.
• 6:27
  The
• 6:27
  America
• 6:28
  showing
• 6:28
  that
• 6:28
  I
• 6:29
  have
• 6:29
  a
• 6:29
  connection
• 6:29
  issue.
• 6:32
  That's
• 6:32
  okay.
• 6:33
  Yeah.
• 6:33
  We
• 6:33
  can
• 6:33
  hear
• 6:33
  you
• 6:33
  a
• 6:33
  little
• 6:33
  bit.
• 6:34
  You're
• 6:34
  a
• 6:34
  little
• 6:34
  bit
• 6:34
  choppy.
• 6:35
  So
• 6:35
  I
• 6:35
  think
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  issue
• 6:36
  is
• 6:36
  across
• 6:36
  this
• 6:37
  whole
• 6:37
  glamping
• 6:37
  show,
• 6:37
  I've
• 6:38
  heard
• 6:38
  from
• 6:38
  several
• 6:38
  different
• 6:38
  people
• 6:39
  that
• 6:39
  the
• 6:39
  wifi
• 6:39
  isn't
• 6:40
  the
• 6:40
  best
• 6:41
  in
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  world,
• 6:41
  but
• 6:41
  I'll,
• 6:42
  hopefully
• 6:42
  we'll
• 6:42
  get
• 6:42
  Casey
• 6:43
  back,
• 6:43
  but
• 6:43
  Casey
• 6:43
  is
• 6:43
  obviously
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  business
• 6:44
  development
• 6:44
  manager
• 6:45
  of
• 6:45
  camp
• 6:46
  spot
• 6:46
  work
• 6:47
  with
• 6:47
  go
• 6:47
  ahead,
• 6:47
  Casey,
• 6:47
  if
• 6:48
  you're
• 6:48
  back.
• 6:48
  Yeah,
• 6:48
  the
• 6:48
  back
• 6:49
  Henry.
• 6:50
  So
• 6:50
  we
• 6:50
  work
• 6:50
  with,
• 6:50
  1500
• 6:51
  plus
• 6:51
  Campground
• 6:52
  across
• 6:52
  north
• 6:53
  America.
• 6:53
  Every
• 6:54
  big
• 6:54
  and
• 6:54
  small
• 6:55
  way.
• 6:55
  We
• 6:55
  try
• 6:55
  to
• 6:55
  provide
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  value
• 6:56
  with
• 6:57
  helping
• 6:57
  parks,
• 6:57
  maximize
• 6:58
  revenue
• 6:58
  and
• 6:59
  maximize
• 6:59
  them
• 6:59
  on
• 6:59
  a
• 7:00
  book
• 7:00
  and
• 7:00
  he's
• 7:00
  taking
• 7:00
  it
• 7:01
  at
• 7:01
  the
• 7:01
  parks.
• 7:01
  And
• 7:01
  so
• 7:02
  we're
• 7:02
  constantly
• 7:03
  learning
• 7:03
  and
• 7:03
  constantly
• 7:04
  seeking
• 7:04
  out
• 7:04
  as
• 7:04
  far
• 7:05
  as
• 7:05
  where
• 7:05
  this
• 7:05
  industry
• 7:05
  is
• 7:05
  moving
• 7:06
  and
• 7:06
  what
• 7:06
  it
• 7:06
  needs
• 7:06
  and
• 7:07
  trying
• 7:07
  to
• 7:07
  stay
• 7:07
  ahead
• 7:08
  of
• 7:08
  that,
• 7:08
  to
• 7:08
  provide
• 7:08
  the
• 7:09
  best
• 7:09
  software
• 7:09
  in
• 7:09
  this
• 7:09
  space
• 7:10
  to
• 7:10
  accommodate
• 7:12
  the
• 7:12
  growing
• 7:12
  number
• 7:12
  of
• 7:12
  campgrounds
• 7:13
  and
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  growing
• 7:13
  needs
• 7:13
  that
• 7:14
  Campground
• 7:15
  really
• 7:15
  should
• 7:15
  expect.
• 7:15
  So
• 7:16
  we're
• 7:17
  a
• 7:17
  number
• 7:17
  of
• 7:17
  great
• 7:17
  companies
• 7:18
  that
• 7:18
  are
• 7:18
  out
• 7:18
  there
• 7:19
  that
• 7:19
  provide
• 7:20
  this,
• 7:20
  but
• 7:20
  yeah,
• 7:21
  we're
• 7:21
  going
• 7:21
  to
• 7:21
  do
• 7:21
  our
• 7:21
  part
• 7:22
  to
• 7:22
  help
• 7:22
  the
• 7:22
  industry
• 7:22
  keep
• 7:22
  looking
• 7:23
  forward.
• 7:24
  We're
• 7:24
  excited
• 7:25
  to
• 7:25
  have
• 7:25
  you,
• 7:25
  but
• 7:25
  I
• 7:26
  can't
• 7:26
  think
• 7:26
  of
• 7:26
  as
• 7:26
  far
• 7:27
  as
• 7:27
  open
• 7:27
  discussions
• 7:28
  and
• 7:28
  timely
• 7:28
  topics
• 7:29
  and
• 7:29
  things
• 7:29
  as
• 7:29
  somebody
• 7:29
  who
• 7:30
  regularly
• 7:30
  interacts.
• 7:31
  1500
• 7:32
  plus
• 7:32
  parks,
• 7:33
  not
• 7:33
  you
• 7:33
  directly,
• 7:33
  but
• 7:33
  your
• 7:34
  company.
• 7:34
  I
• 7:34
  feel
• 7:34
  like
• 7:34
  there's
• 7:35
  a
• 7:35
  ton
• 7:35
  of
• 7:35
  insights
• 7:35
  and
• 7:35
  discussions
• 7:36
  we
• 7:36
  can
• 7:36
  always
• 7:36
  have
• 7:36
  with
• 7:37
  you.
• 7:37
  So
• 7:37
  looking
• 7:37
  forward
• 7:37
  to
• 7:37
  that
• 7:38
  Mr.
• 7:38
  Scott
• 7:38
  foods
• 7:39
  from
• 7:39
  horizon
• 7:40
  outdoors
• 7:41
  is
• 7:41
  also
• 7:41
  at
• 7:41
  the
• 7:41
  glamping
• 7:42
  show,
• 7:42
  but
• 7:42
  any
• 7:42
  much
• 7:43
  better
• 7:43
  background
• 7:44
  than
• 7:46
  what's
• 7:46
  going
• 7:47
  on
• 7:47
  today.
• 7:48
  Hey
• 7:48
  guys.
• 7:48
  Yeah.
• 7:49
  Happy
• 7:49
  to
• 7:49
  in
• 7:49
  glad
• 7:49
  to
• 7:50
  be
• 7:50
  here.
• 7:50
  Thanks
• 7:50
  for
• 7:50
  having
• 7:51
  us.
• 7:51
  Yeah
• 7:51
  we're
• 7:51
  here
• 7:52
  at
• 7:52
  the
• 7:52
  glamping
• 7:52
  show
• 7:53
  and
• 7:53
  from
• 7:53
  what
• 7:53
  I've
• 7:54
  heard
• 7:54
  out
• 7:54
  officially,
• 7:55
  it's
• 7:55
  three
• 7:56
  attendance
• 7:56
  is
• 7:56
  up
• 7:56
  three
• 7:56
  times
• 7:57
  from
• 7:57
  what
• 7:57
  it
• 7:57
  was
• 7:58
  two
• 7:58
  years
• 7:58
  ago
• 7:58
  and
• 7:58
  it
• 7:59
  was
• 7:59
  just
• 7:59
  live
• 8:00
  here
• 8:01
  and
• 8:01
  we're
• 8:01
  amazed
• 8:02
  at
• 8:02
  what
• 8:03
  we're
• 8:03
  seeing
• 8:03
  out
• 8:03
  here,
• 8:03
  but
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  little
• 8:04
  bit
• 8:04
  about
• 8:04
  us
• 8:05
  horizon
• 8:05
  outdoor
• 8:05
  hospitality's
• 8:06
  at
• 8:06
  third.
• 8:07
  Management
• 8:08
  and
• 8:08
  consulting
• 8:09
  firm
• 8:09
  extensively
• 8:10
  serving
• 8:10
  the
• 8:11
  RV
• 8:11
  resort
• 8:11
  and
• 8:12
  glamping
• 8:12
  space.
• 8:13
  We
• 8:13
  work
• 8:13
  with
• 8:14
  a
• 8:14
  handful
• 8:15
  of
• 8:15
  properties
• 8:16
  nationally
• 8:16
  and
• 8:17
  we
• 8:17
  really
• 8:18
  provide
• 8:18
  a,
• 8:18
  to
• 8:19
  Z
• 8:19
  services
• 8:20
  that,
• 8:20
  that
• 8:20
  you
• 8:20
  would
• 8:20
  expect
• 8:21
  with
• 8:21
  turnkey,
• 8:21
  full
• 8:21
  management,
• 8:22
  but
• 8:22
  also
• 8:23
  consulting
• 8:24
  and
• 8:24
  accounting
• 8:24
  and
• 8:24
  marketing
• 8:25
  services
• 8:25
  as
• 8:25
  well.
• 8:26
  So
• 8:26
  we're
• 8:27
  excited
• 8:28
  to
• 8:28
  see
• 8:28
  some
• 8:28
  of
• 8:28
  the
• 8:29
  some
• 8:29
  of
• 8:29
  the
• 8:29
  growth
• 8:29
  that
• 8:29
  our
• 8:30
  industry
• 8:30
  is
• 8:31
  currently
• 8:32
  experiencing
• 8:32
  and
• 8:32
  especially
• 8:33
  here
• 8:33
  in
• 8:33
  the
• 8:33
  glamping
• 8:34
  space
• 8:34
  and
• 8:34
  it's
• 8:35
  electric
• 8:35
  being
• 8:35
  here
• 8:36
  and
• 8:36
  it's
• 8:36
  it's
• 8:36
  been
• 8:37
  a
• 8:37
  really
• 8:37
  fun
• 8:37
  experience.
• 8:39
  Now,
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  know
• 8:39
  a
• 8:39
  lot
• 8:39
  of
• 8:39
  people
• 8:40
  have
• 8:40
  heard
• 8:40
  of
• 8:40
  you,
• 8:40
  Scott.
• 8:41
  But
• 8:41
  I
• 8:41
  feel
• 8:41
  like
• 8:41
  you're
• 8:41
  underselling
• 8:42
  yourself
• 8:42
  a
• 8:42
  little
• 8:43
  bit,
• 8:43
  when
• 8:43
  you
• 8:43
  say,
• 8:44
  which
• 8:44
  will
• 8:44
  have
• 8:44
  properties
• 8:48
  in
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  grand
• 8:49
  scheme
• 8:49
  of
• 8:49
  things.
• 8:49
  It's
• 8:50
  just
• 8:50
  a
• 8:50
  few
• 8:50
  yeah.
• 8:50
  We
• 8:50
  had
• 8:51
  a
• 8:51
  a
• 8:51
  few
• 8:51
  dozen
• 8:51
  properties
• 8:52
  from
• 8:53
  Oregon
• 8:53
  down
• 8:54
  to
• 8:54
  California
• 8:55
  and
• 8:55
  across
• 8:55
  the
• 8:56
  coast
• 8:56
  to
• 8:56
  Florida
• 8:57
  up
• 8:57
  to
• 8:57
  moving
• 8:57
  blend
• 8:57
  and
• 8:57
  everywhere
• 8:58
  in
• 8:58
  between.
• 8:58
  And
• 8:59
  we
• 8:59
  manage
• 9:00
  a
• 9:00
  wide
• 9:00
  variety
• 9:01
  of
• 9:01
  properties
• 9:01
  too,
• 9:01
  which
• 9:01
  is
• 9:02
  pretty
• 9:02
  interesting
• 9:02
  to
• 9:03
  see
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  differences
• 9:04
  between,
• 9:04
  in
• 9:04
  the
• 9:04
  RV
• 9:05
  and
• 9:05
  the
• 9:05
  RV
• 9:06
  resort
• 9:06
  space,
• 9:06
  the
• 9:07
  differences
• 9:07
  between
• 9:07
  like
• 9:07
  extended
• 9:08
  state
• 9:08
  properties
• 9:08
  and
• 9:08
  transient
• 9:09
  Oriental
• 9:09
  properties,
• 9:10
  but
• 9:10
  also
• 9:11
  more
• 9:11
  of
• 9:11
  the
• 9:12
  true
• 9:12
  glamping
• 9:13
  rated
• 9:13
  properties
• 9:13
  as
• 9:13
  well,
• 9:14
  but
• 9:14
  that
• 9:14
  we
• 9:14
  have
• 9:14
  to
• 9:15
  it's
• 9:15
  a
• 9:15
  small
• 9:16
  industry,
• 9:16
  but
• 9:16
  it's
• 9:16
  very
• 9:17
  different
• 9:17
  from
• 9:17
  one
• 9:18
  property
• 9:18
  type
• 9:18
  to
• 9:18
  the
• 9:19
  next
• 9:19
  and
• 9:19
  one
• 9:19
  area
• 9:19
  to
• 9:19
  the
• 9:19
  next,
• 9:20
  to.
• 9:20
  Yeah
• 9:20
  it's
• 9:20
  been
• 9:21
  a,
• 9:21
  it's
• 9:21
  been
• 9:21
  an
• 9:21
  interesting
• 9:21
  experience
• 9:22
  of
• 9:22
  the
• 9:22
  last
• 9:22
  couple
• 9:23
  of
• 9:23
  years.
• 9:23
  And
• 9:23
  your
• 9:23
  growth
• 9:24
  has
• 9:24
  really
• 9:24
  taken
• 9:24
  off
• 9:25
  at
• 9:25
  horizon
• 9:25
  outdoors,
• 9:25
  which
• 9:26
  we'll
• 9:26
  get
• 9:26
  into
• 9:26
  as
• 9:26
  we
• 9:26
  talk
• 9:27
  to
• 9:27
  you
• 9:27
  across
• 9:27
  many
• 9:28
  different
• 9:28
  shows,
• 9:28
  but
• 9:28
  it'd
• 9:29
  be
• 9:29
  your
• 9:29
  back.
• 9:29
  You're
• 9:30
  not
• 9:30
  new
• 9:30
  to
• 9:30
  the
• 9:30
  industry.
• 9:31
  So
• 9:31
  talk
• 9:31
  just
• 9:31
  briefly
• 9:32
  about,
• 9:33
  yeah.
• 9:33
  Yeah.
• 9:34
  I
• 9:34
  entered
• 9:34
  the
• 9:34
  industry
• 9:35
  in
• 9:35
  2005
• 9:36
  as
• 9:36
  a
• 9:36
  housekeeping
• 9:37
  front
• 9:38
  desk
• 9:38
  maintenance
• 9:39
  do
• 9:39
  it
• 9:39
  all
• 9:39
  kind
• 9:39
  of
• 9:39
  guy
• 9:40
  at
• 9:40
  one
• 9:40
  of
• 9:40
  Colorado's
• 9:41
  premier
• 9:41
  resorts
• 9:42
  and
• 9:42
  quickly
• 9:43
  began
• 9:43
  to
• 9:43
  manage
• 9:44
  that
• 9:44
  property.
• 9:44
  I
• 9:45
  managed
• 9:45
  it
• 9:45
  through
• 9:45
  college
• 9:46
  and
• 9:46
  after
• 9:47
  college
• 9:47
  I
• 9:47
  joined
• 9:47
  horizon
• 9:48
  it
• 9:48
  was
• 9:48
  surprise
• 9:49
  that
• 9:49
  RV
• 9:49
  resorts
• 9:49
  at
• 9:49
  the
• 9:49
  time,
• 9:50
  Randy
• 9:50
  Hendrickson
• 9:51
  was
• 9:51
  the
• 9:51
  owner.
• 9:51
  Horizon
• 9:52
  itself
• 9:52
  has
• 9:52
  been
• 9:52
  in
• 9:53
  business
• 9:53
  since
• 9:53
  2004.
• 9:54
  And
• 9:55
  we
• 9:55
  have
• 9:55
  we,
• 9:56
  my
• 9:56
  wife
• 9:56
  and
• 9:56
  I
• 9:57
  Lindsey
• 9:57
  she
• 9:57
  and
• 9:57
  I
• 9:57
  purchased
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  company
• 9:58
  last
• 9:59
  August
• 9:59
  and
• 10:00
  yeah.
• 10:00
  Business
• 10:01
  in
• 10:01
  that
• 10:01
  time
• 10:01
  is
• 10:01
  about
• 10:01
  tripled.
• 10:02
  And
• 10:02
  it's
• 10:02
  been
• 10:03
  a,
• 10:03
  it's
• 10:03
  been
• 10:03
  a
• 10:03
  wild
• 10:03
  ride
• 10:04
  and
• 10:04
  I
• 10:04
  think
• 10:04
  it's
• 10:04
  I
• 10:05
  think
• 10:05
  it's
• 10:05
  indicative
• 10:05
  of
• 10:06
  what
• 10:06
  we're
• 10:06
  seeing
• 10:06
  in
• 10:06
  from,
• 10:06
  the
• 10:07
  demand
• 10:07
  overall.
• 10:08
  So
• 10:10
  that's
• 10:10
  awesome.
• 10:10
  Excited
• 10:11
  to
• 10:11
  have
• 10:11
  you
• 10:11
  here.
• 10:11
  I
• 10:11
  think
• 10:11
  Angela
• 10:12
  is
• 10:12
  geared
• 10:12
  to,
• 10:12
  she
• 10:13
  has
• 10:13
  her
• 10:13
  a
• 10:13
  camera
• 10:14
  off,
• 10:14
  but
• 10:14
  we'll
• 10:14
  have
• 10:15
  her
• 10:15
  introduce
• 10:15
  herself
• 10:16
  in
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  second.
• 10:16
  When
• 10:16
  she
• 10:16
  gets
• 10:16
  back,
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  know
• 10:18
  she's
• 10:18
  dealing
• 10:18
  with
• 10:18
  a
• 10:18
  sick
• 10:19
  child
• 10:19
  this
• 10:19
  morning,
• 10:20
  so
• 10:20
  juggling
• 10:20
  multiple
• 10:21
  things.
• 10:22
  So
• 10:22
  hopefully
• 10:22
  he
• 10:22
  feels
• 10:23
  better
• 10:23
  and
• 10:23
  all
• 10:23
  that
• 10:23
  kind
• 10:23
  of
• 10:23
  stuff,
• 10:24
  but
• 10:24
  what
• 10:24
  are
• 10:24
  we
• 10:24
  going
• 10:24
  to
• 10:24
  talk
• 10:25
  about
• 10:25
  today?
• 10:25
  I
• 10:25
  feel
• 10:26
  obviously
• 10:26
  let's
• 10:26
  start
• 10:26
  with
• 10:27
  a
• 10:27
  glamping
• 10:27
  show,
• 10:27
  right?
• 10:27
  We've
• 10:28
  got,
• 10:28
  I
• 10:28
  think
• 10:28
  Casey's
• 10:29
  here.
• 10:29
  Do
• 10:29
  you
• 10:29
  just
• 10:29
  turn
• 10:29
  it
• 10:29
  off
• 10:30
  his
• 10:30
  video?
• 10:30
  Maybe
• 10:30
  has
• 10:30
  some
• 10:31
  internet
• 10:31
  connection
• 10:31
  issues
• 10:31
  inside,
• 10:32
  but
• 10:33
  tell
• 10:33
  us
• 10:33
  give
• 10:33
  us
• 10:33
  what
• 10:34
  you've
• 10:34
  seen
• 10:34
  so
• 10:34
  far,
• 10:34
  Scott
• 10:35
  at
• 10:35
  the
• 10:35
  glamping
• 10:35
  show.
• 10:38
  Yeah.
• 10:38
  What's
• 10:38
  been
• 10:38
  really
• 10:39
  interesting
• 10:40
  here
• 10:40
  at
• 10:40
  the
• 10:41
  forum
• 10:41
  is
• 10:41
  great.
• 10:42
  You've
• 10:42
  got
• 10:42
  the
• 10:43
  indoor
• 10:44
  seminars
• 10:45
  that
• 10:45
  are
• 10:45
  every
• 10:45
  other
• 10:46
  hour,
• 10:46
  I
• 10:46
  believe
• 10:47
  they're
• 10:47
  about
• 10:47
  an
• 10:47
  hour
• 10:48
  long
• 10:48
  and
• 10:48
  there's
• 10:48
  an
• 10:48
  indoor
• 10:49
  exhibit.
• 10:49
  And
• 10:49
  then
• 10:49
  there's
• 10:49
  the
• 10:49
  outdoor
• 10:50
  structure
• 10:51
  exhibit.
• 10:51
  And
• 10:52
  every
• 10:52
  single
• 10:52
  area
• 10:53
  is.
• 10:53
  And
• 10:54
  we
• 10:54
  were
• 10:54
  surprised
• 10:55
  to
• 10:55
  see
• 10:55
  so
• 10:56
  many
• 10:56
  people
• 10:56
  here
• 10:56
  again
• 10:56
  today
• 10:57
  on
• 10:57
  the
• 10:57
  second
• 10:57
  day
• 10:58
  it
• 10:58
  looks
• 10:58
  like
• 10:58
  a
• 10:58
  lot
• 10:59
  of
• 10:59
  new
• 10:59
  faces
• 10:59
  as
• 10:59
  well.
• 11:00
  The
• 11:00
  structures,
• 11:01
  there's
• 11:01
  a
• 11:01
  wide
• 11:01
  variety
• 11:01
  of
• 11:02
  things
• 11:02
  out
• 11:02
  here,
• 11:02
  and
• 11:02
  that's
• 11:03
  been
• 11:03
  really
• 11:03
  interesting
• 11:04
  to,
• 11:04
  to
• 11:05
  see
• 11:05
  the
• 11:05
  development
• 11:06
  of
• 11:06
  as
• 11:06
  well
• 11:07
  with
• 11:07
  anything
• 11:07
  from
• 11:07
  canvas
• 11:08
  to
• 11:08
  hard
• 11:08
  sided.
• 11:09
  And
• 11:09
  now
• 11:09
  we're
• 11:09
  seeing
• 11:09
  some
• 11:09
  really
• 11:10
  cool
• 11:10
  some
• 11:10
  really
• 11:11
  cool
• 11:11
  units
• 11:11
  that
• 11:12
  are
• 11:12
  like
• 11:12
  a
• 11:12
  hybrid
• 11:13
  hard
• 11:13
  sided
• 11:13
  canvas
• 11:14
  that
• 11:14
  I
• 11:14
  think
• 11:14
  to
• 11:14
  do
• 11:14
  really
• 11:15
  well
• 11:15
  in
• 11:15
  certain
• 11:15
  environments.
• 11:16
  So
• 11:16
  that's
• 11:17
  been,
• 11:17
  that
• 11:18
  seemed,
• 11:18
  the
• 11:18
  structure
• 11:18
  seemed
• 11:19
  to
• 11:19
  be
• 11:19
  generating
• 11:19
  the
• 11:19
  most
• 11:20
  buzz.
• 11:20
  It
• 11:20
  looks
• 11:20
  like
• 11:21
  and
• 11:21
  rightfully
• 11:21
  it's
• 11:22
  fun
• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
  walk
• 11:22
  him
• 11:22
  through.
• 11:24
  But
• 11:24
  it's
• 11:24
  great
• 11:24
  to
• 11:24
  see
• 11:24
  a
• 11:24
  lot
• 11:25
  of
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  vendors
• 11:25
  inside
• 11:26
  too.
• 11:26
  Anything
• 11:27
  that,
• 11:27
  that
• 11:27
  you
• 11:27
  would
• 11:27
  expect
• 11:28
  to
• 11:28
  see
• 11:28
  at
• 11:28
  a,
• 11:28
  at
• 11:29
  an
• 11:29
  event
• 11:29
  like
• 11:29
  this
• 11:30
  from,
• 11:30
  camp
• 11:30
  spot
• 11:31
  in
• 11:31
  other
• 11:31
  reservation
• 11:31
  systems
• 11:32
  to,
• 11:33
  insurance
• 11:33
  and
• 11:33
  some
• 11:34
  furniture
• 11:34
  and
• 11:34
  that
• 11:34
  sort
• 11:34
  of
• 11:35
  thing.
• 11:35
  And
• 11:35
  the
• 11:35
  seminars
• 11:36
  are
• 11:36
  great.
• 11:36
  All
• 11:36
  the
• 11:37
  speakers
• 11:37
  seem
• 11:37
  like
• 11:37
  they're
• 11:37
  really
• 11:38
  knowledgeable.
• 11:38
  And
• 11:39
  we
• 11:39
  just
• 11:39
  got
• 11:39
  out
• 11:39
  of
• 11:39
  the,
• 11:40
  it
• 11:40
  was
• 11:40
  a
• 11:41
  technology
• 11:41
  and
• 11:42
  the
• 11:42
  glamping
• 11:42
  seminar
• 11:43
  with
• 11:43
  it
• 11:43
  was
• 11:43
  a
• 11:43
  round
• 11:44
  table.
• 11:44
  There
• 11:44
  was
• 11:44
  a
• 11:45
  couple
• 11:45
  of
• 11:45
  industry
• 11:46
  leaders
• 11:46
  posting
• 11:47
  that,
• 11:47
  and
• 11:47
  it
• 11:47
  was,
• 11:48
  you're
• 11:48
  always
• 11:48
  learning
• 11:48
  something
• 11:49
  new
• 11:49
  and
• 11:50
  it's
• 11:50
  just,
• 11:50
  it's
• 11:50
  great
• 11:50
  to
• 11:51
  be
• 11:51
  in
• 11:51
  that
• 11:51
  environment
• 11:52
  where
• 11:52
  it
• 11:52
  seems
• 11:52
  like
• 11:52
  everybody
• 11:53
  really
• 11:53
  is
• 11:53
  caring
• 11:54
  for
• 11:54
  each
• 11:54
  other.
• 11:54
  Everybody,
• 11:55
  we
• 11:55
  are
• 11:55
  all
• 11:56
  in
• 11:56
  the
• 11:56
  same
• 11:56
  industry
• 11:57
  together
• 11:57
  and
• 11:58
  we
• 11:58
  all
• 11:58
  rise
• 11:58
  together.
• 11:59
  So
• 11:59
  the
• 11:59
  more
• 11:59
  sharing
• 11:59
  that
• 12:00
  we
• 12:00
  can
• 12:00
  do
• 12:00
  seems
• 12:01
  to
• 12:01
  benefit
• 12:01
  everybody.
• 12:02
  Okay.
• 12:03
  I
• 12:03
  think
• 12:03
  it's
• 12:03
  fascinating
• 12:04
  how
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  glamping
• 12:05
  show
• 12:05
  I
• 12:05
  don't
• 12:05
  want
• 12:05
  to
• 12:05
  say
• 12:05
  popped
• 12:06
  out
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  nowhere.
• 12:06
  Cause
• 12:07
  obviously
• 12:07
  they
• 12:07
  have
• 12:07
  European
• 12:08
  division
• 12:08
  and
• 12:08
  things
• 12:08
  like
• 12:09
  that.
• 12:09
  But
• 12:09
  when
• 12:09
  you
• 12:09
  look
• 12:10
  at
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  complete
• 12:10
  competing
• 12:11
  conferences
• 12:11
  and
• 12:11
  they're
• 12:12
  not
• 12:12
  really
• 12:12
  competitors
• 12:13
  with
• 12:13
  each
• 12:13
  other,
• 12:14
  but
• 12:14
  the
• 12:14
  similar
• 12:15
  conferences
• 12:15
  from
• 12:15
  Arvik
• 12:16
  to
• 12:16
  Koa,
• 12:16
  to
• 12:16
  LSI
• 12:17
  to
• 12:17
  the
• 12:17
  state
• 12:17
  associations,
• 12:18
  glamping
• 12:19
  is
• 12:19
  definitely
• 12:19
  a
• 12:19
  baby
• 12:20
  when
• 12:20
  it
• 12:20
  comes
• 12:20
  to
• 12:21
  some
• 12:21
  of
• 12:21
  those
• 12:21
  shows.
• 12:22
  But
• 12:22
  it
• 12:22
  seems
• 12:22
  to
• 12:23
  be
• 12:23
  catching
• 12:23
  fire
• 12:24
  like
• 12:24
  much
• 12:24
  more
• 12:25
  quickly
• 12:25
  than
• 12:25
  I
• 12:25
  would
• 12:25
  have
• 12:26
  thought,
• 12:26
  like
• 12:26
  the
• 12:26
  attendance
• 12:27
  in
• 12:27
  2019
• 12:28
  when
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  was
• 12:28
  there,
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  wish
• 12:29
  it
• 12:29
  was
• 12:29
  there
• 12:29
  now.
• 12:29
  I
• 12:29
  just
• 12:30
  stuck
• 12:30
  in
• 12:30
  limbo
• 12:30
  here
• 12:30
  in
• 12:31
  Canada.
• 12:31
  But
• 12:31
  but
• 12:32
  yeah,
• 12:32
  it
• 12:32
  just
• 12:32
  seems
• 12:32
  like
• 12:33
  there's
• 12:33
  so
• 12:33
  much
• 12:33
  engagement,
• 12:34
  so
• 12:34
  much
• 12:34
  interest.
• 12:35
  Were
• 12:35
  you
• 12:35
  there
• 12:35
  in
• 12:36
  2019
• 12:36
  Scott?
• 12:36
  I
• 12:36
  think
• 12:37
  Randy
• 12:37
  was,
• 12:38
  but
• 12:38
  I
• 12:38
  know
• 12:39
  even
• 12:39
  though
• 12:39
  it's,
• 12:39
  even
• 12:40
  though
• 12:40
  I
• 12:40
  live
• 12:40
  45
• 12:41
  minutes
• 12:41
  from
• 12:41
  here
• 12:41
  I
• 12:41
  was
• 12:41
  out
• 12:42
  of
• 12:42
  town.
• 12:43
  This
• 12:43
  is
• 12:43
  my
• 12:43
  first
• 12:43
  time,
• 12:44
  but
• 12:44
  Casey,
• 12:45
  you
• 12:45
  were
• 12:45
  there
• 12:45
  in
• 12:45
  2019,
• 12:46
  right?
• 12:47
  Yeah,
• 12:47
  I
• 12:48
  was
• 12:48
  here.
• 12:48
  Yeah,
• 12:49
  it
• 12:49
  is.
• 12:49
  It's
• 12:49
  incredible.
• 12:50
  How
• 12:50
  many
• 12:50
  people
• 12:51
  all
• 12:51
  over
• 12:51
  the
• 12:51
  world
• 12:51
  really?
• 12:52
  It's
• 12:52
  incredible
• 12:52
  how
• 12:52
  many
• 12:53
  people
• 12:53
  from
• 12:54
  Mexico
• 12:55
  that
• 12:55
  are
• 12:55
  putting
• 12:56
  up
• 12:56
  campgrounds
• 12:56
  are
• 12:57
  trying
• 12:57
  to
• 12:57
  get
• 12:57
  into
• 12:57
  the
• 12:57
  space.
• 12:58
  Yeah,
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  think
• 12:58
  the
• 12:58
  interesting
• 12:59
  thing
• 12:59
  here
• 12:59
  is
• 12:59
  how
• 13:00
  many
• 13:00
  people
• 13:01
  are
• 13:01
  actively
• 13:02
  pursuing
• 13:03
  using
• 13:04
  whatever
• 13:04
  space
• 13:05
  or
• 13:05
  land
• 13:05
  or
• 13:06
  potential
• 13:06
  they
• 13:07
  have
• 13:07
  to
• 13:08
  build
• 13:08
  something
• 13:08
  and
• 13:09
  all
• 13:09
  that.
• 13:09
  And
• 13:09
  a
• 13:09
  lot
• 13:09
  of
• 13:09
  people
• 13:10
  here,
• 13:10
  it's
• 13:10
  building
• 13:10
  something
• 13:11
  small,
• 13:11
  right?
• 13:11
  One
• 13:12
  to
• 13:13
  five
• 13:13
  units
• 13:13
  or
• 13:14
  something
• 13:14
  like
• 13:14
  that,
• 13:14
  with
• 13:14
  the
• 13:15
  hopes
• 13:15
  to
• 13:15
  expand
• 13:16
  it
• 13:16
  to
• 13:16
  15
• 13:16
  or
• 13:16
  20,
• 13:17
  we
• 13:18
  have
• 13:18
  some
• 13:18
  larger,
• 13:18
  40
• 13:19
  to
• 13:19
  60
• 13:19
  site
• 13:20
  just,
• 13:21
  alternative
• 13:21
  lodging,
• 13:22
  but
• 13:22
  just
• 13:23
  the
• 13:23
  better
• 13:23
  experience.
• 13:24
  And
• 13:24
  I
• 13:24
  think
• 13:24
  it
• 13:24
  just
• 13:25
  speaks
• 13:25
  to
• 13:25
  the
• 13:25
  industry
• 13:26
  as
• 13:26
  far
• 13:26
  as.
• 13:27
  How
• 13:27
  much
• 13:27
  it's
• 13:27
  expanding
• 13:28
  and
• 13:28
  growing
• 13:28
  because
• 13:29
  people
• 13:29
  want
• 13:29
  to
• 13:29
  get
• 13:29
  outside.
• 13:30
  I
• 13:30
  unfortunately
• 13:31
  stayed
• 13:31
  in
• 13:31
  a
• 13:31
  hotel
• 13:32
  last
• 13:32
  night
• 13:33
  and
• 13:33
  each
• 13:33
  time
• 13:33
  I
• 13:34
  do
• 13:34
  I'm
• 13:34
  used
• 13:34
  to
• 13:34
  it,
• 13:35
  a
• 13:35
  program
• 13:35
  to
• 13:35
  doing
• 13:36
  that.
• 13:36
  But
• 13:37
  as
• 13:37
  soon
• 13:37
  as
• 13:37
  I,
• 13:37
  step
• 13:38
  out
• 13:38
  of
• 13:38
  that
• 13:38
  and
• 13:38
  get
• 13:38
  into
• 13:39
  a,
• 13:39
  an
• 13:39
  outdoor
• 13:40
  lodging
• 13:41
  environment,
• 13:41
  it's
• 13:41
  just,
• 13:41
  it's
• 13:42
  better.
• 13:42
  It's
• 13:42
  just
• 13:43
  as
• 13:43
  a
• 13:43
  better
• 13:43
  experience
• 13:43
  overall.
• 13:44
  So
• 13:44
  I
• 13:45
  just
• 13:45
  love
• 13:45
  to
• 13:46
  see
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  growth
• 13:46
  of
• 13:48
  how
• 13:48
  many
• 13:48
  people
• 13:48
  are
• 13:50
  taking
• 13:50
  their
• 13:50
  money
• 13:50
  and
• 13:50
  doing
• 13:51
  this
• 13:51
  with
• 13:51
  it.
• 13:52
  Yeah.
• 13:52
  I
• 13:53
  think
• 13:53
  it
• 13:53
  really
• 13:53
  speaks
• 13:53
  to
• 13:53
  the
• 13:54
  adaptability
• 13:54
  of
• 13:55
  folks
• 13:56
  in
• 13:56
  this
• 13:56
  industry
• 13:57
  who
• 13:57
  could
• 13:58
  just
• 13:58
  see
• 13:58
  that,
• 13:59
  despite
• 13:59
  there
• 13:59
  being
• 14:00
  tons
• 14:00
  of
• 14:00
  RVs
• 14:01
  on
• 14:01
  the
• 14:01
  road
• 14:01
  and
• 14:02
  RV
• 14:02
  units
• 14:03
  selling
• 14:04
  all
• 14:04
  the
• 14:04
  time,
• 14:04
  there
• 14:04
  was
• 14:05
  still
• 14:05
  this
• 14:06
  tangible,
• 14:06
  significant
• 14:07
  portion
• 14:07
  of
• 14:07
  market
• 14:08
  that
• 14:08
  wasn't
• 14:09
  as
• 14:09
  accessible
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  us.
• 14:11
  And
• 14:11
  so
• 14:11
  this
• 14:11
  ability
• 14:12
  to
• 14:12
  expand,
• 14:13
  to
• 14:14
  access
• 14:14
  those,
• 14:14
  even
• 14:15
  in
• 14:15
  those
• 14:15
  small
• 14:15
  ways
• 14:16
  to
• 14:16
  begin
• 14:16
  with
• 14:17
  just
• 14:17
  makes
• 14:17
  such
• 14:17
  good
• 14:17
  business
• 14:18
  tends
• 14:18
  to
• 14:18
  better
• 14:18
  use.
• 14:18
  Casey
• 14:19
  said
• 14:19
  your
• 14:19
  property.
• 14:21
  It
• 14:21
  also
• 14:21
  impacts
• 14:22
  things
• 14:22
  like
• 14:22
  operating
• 14:23
  season
• 14:23
  lengths.
• 14:24
  It
• 14:24
  can
• 14:25
  really
• 14:26
  extend
• 14:26
  your
• 14:27
  operating
• 14:27
  season
• 14:27
  into
• 14:28
  those
• 14:28
  shoulder
• 14:28
  seasons
• 14:29
  and
• 14:29
  potentially
• 14:29
  winter
• 14:30
  defending
• 14:30
  obviously
• 14:31
  things
• 14:31
  specifically
• 14:32
  to
• 14:32
  our
• 14:32
  Northern
• 14:33
  climate.
• 14:34
  But
• 14:34
  those
• 14:34
  things
• 14:35
  make
• 14:35
  a
• 14:35
  ton
• 14:35
  of
• 14:35
  sense.
• 14:36
  And
• 14:36
  I
• 14:36
  think
• 14:37
  folks
• 14:38
  in
• 14:38
  this
• 14:38
  industry
• 14:39
  are
• 14:39
  by
• 14:39
  nature,
• 14:39
  very
• 14:40
  typically,
• 14:41
  very
• 14:41
  adaptable.
• 14:42
  So
• 14:42
  I'm
• 14:42
  not
• 14:43
  surprised
• 14:43
  at
• 14:43
  all
• 14:44
  to
• 14:44
  see.
• 14:44
  I
• 14:44
  think
• 14:45
  lamping
• 14:45
  is
• 14:46
  such
• 14:46
  a
• 14:46
  big,
• 14:47
  curling
• 14:47
  through
• 14:48
  the
• 14:48
  list
• 14:48
  of
• 14:49
  sessions
• 14:49
  at
• 14:49
  the
• 14:50
  at
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  glamping
• 14:50
  show
• 14:50
  right
• 14:51
  now.
• 14:51
  And
• 14:51
  there's
• 14:51
  so
• 14:52
  many
• 14:52
  topics
• 14:53
  to
• 14:53
  cover.
• 14:53
  I
• 14:53
  think
• 14:54
  that's
• 14:54
  part
• 14:55
  of
• 14:55
  why
• 14:56
  those
• 14:56
  existing
• 14:57
  conferences
• 14:58
  we
• 14:58
  see.
• 14:58
  You
• 14:58
  can
• 14:58
  touch
• 14:59
  on
• 14:59
  only
• 14:59
  touch
• 14:59
  on
• 15:00
  so
• 15:00
  many
• 15:00
  things
• 15:00
  during
• 15:01
  that
• 15:02
  time.
• 15:02
  And
• 15:02
  so
• 15:02
  this
• 15:03
  ability
• 15:03
  to
• 15:03
  really
• 15:04
  focus
• 15:04
  in
• 15:04
  on
• 15:04
  it
• 15:05
  there's
• 15:05
  obviously
• 15:05
  a
• 15:05
  need
• 15:06
  judging
• 15:06
  by
• 15:06
  how
• 15:06
  many
• 15:07
  people
• 15:07
  apparently
• 15:08
  are
• 15:08
  there.
• 15:09
  And
• 15:10
  I
• 15:10
  want
• 15:10
  to
• 15:10
  dive
• 15:11
  more
• 15:11
  into
• 15:11
  the
• 15:12
  yeah.
• 15:12
  Kurt.
• 15:12
  That's
• 15:12
  what
• 15:12
  I
• 15:13
  was
• 15:13
  going
• 15:13
  to
• 15:13
  ask
• 15:13
  you.
• 15:13
  If
• 15:13
  glamping
• 15:14
  has
• 15:14
  crossed
• 15:15
  over
• 15:15
  into
• 15:15
  the
• 15:15
  national
• 15:15
  parks
• 15:16
  yet,
• 15:16
  and
• 15:16
  then
• 15:16
  I
• 15:16
  want
• 15:16
  to
• 15:16
  dive
• 15:17
  more
• 15:17
  into
• 15:17
  it,
• 15:17
  Casey
• 15:17
  and
• 15:18
  Scott
• 15:18
  are
• 15:18
  seen,
• 15:18
  it's
• 15:18
  a,
• 15:18
  it's
• 15:19
  an
• 15:19
  interesting
• 15:19
  issue.
• 15:20
  And
• 15:20
  of
• 15:20
  course
• 15:21
  it's
• 15:21
  a
• 15:21
  controversial
• 15:21
  issue.
• 15:22
  Some
• 15:22
  years
• 15:22
  ago,
• 15:23
  national
• 15:23
  parks
• 15:24
  travel
• 15:24
  did
• 15:24
  a
• 15:24
  feature
• 15:25
  on
• 15:25
  a
• 15:26
  outfitter
• 15:27
  that.
• 15:28
  Took
• 15:28
  it
• 15:28
  back,
• 15:29
  took
• 15:29
  the
• 15:29
  glamping
• 15:30
  experience
• 15:30
  into
• 15:30
  the
• 15:30
  back
• 15:31
  country.
• 15:31
  They
• 15:31
  went
• 15:31
  into
• 15:32
  Yellowstone
• 15:32
  lake
• 15:33
  and
• 15:33
  set
• 15:33
  up
• 15:33
  at
• 15:34
  one
• 15:34
  of
• 15:34
  the
• 15:34
  back
• 15:34
  country,
• 15:34
  campsites
• 15:35
  there,
• 15:35
  and
• 15:35
  they
• 15:35
  had,
• 15:36
  tents
• 15:36
  set
• 15:36
  up
• 15:37
  and
• 15:37
  you
• 15:37
  would
• 15:37
  get
• 15:37
  your
• 15:37
  hot
• 15:38
  towels
• 15:38
  in
• 15:38
  the
• 15:38
  morning
• 15:39
  and
• 15:39
  your
• 15:39
  car
• 15:39
  was
• 15:39
  set
• 15:40
  up
• 15:40
  in
• 15:40
  warm
• 15:40
  cups
• 15:41
  of
• 15:41
  coffee
• 15:41
  and
• 15:41
  all
• 15:41
  that.
• 15:42
  Wow.
• 15:43
  It's
• 15:43
  interesting
• 15:43
  to
• 15:43
  see
• 15:44
  it
• 15:44
  explore,
• 15:45
  expand
• 15:45
  into
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  back
• 15:46
  country
• 15:46
  of
• 15:47
  national
• 15:47
  parks
• 15:47
  and
• 15:48
  Scott
• 15:48
  in
• 15:48
  a
• 15:49
  minute.
• 15:49
  I'd
• 15:49
  like
• 15:49
  to
• 15:49
  hear
• 15:50
  from
• 15:50
  you
• 15:50
  as
• 15:50
  far
• 15:51
  as
• 15:51
  whether
• 15:52
  any
• 15:52
  of
• 15:52
  the
• 15:52
  companies
• 15:52
  you
• 15:53
  were
• 15:54
  meeting
• 15:54
  with
• 15:54
  or
• 15:54
  your
• 15:55
  company
• 15:55
  is
• 15:55
  looking
• 15:55
  at
• 15:56
  national
• 15:56
  parks
• 15:56
  as
• 15:56
  potential
• 15:57
  avenues
• 15:58
  for
• 15:58
  glamping.
• 15:59
  At
• 15:59
  the
• 15:59
  same
• 15:59
  time
• 16:00
  here
• 16:00
  in
• 16:00
  Utah,
• 16:01
  it's
• 16:02
  caused
• 16:03
  quite
• 16:03
  a
• 16:03
  controversy
• 16:04
  down
• 16:04
  in
• 16:04
  the
• 16:04
  Moab
• 16:05
  and
• 16:05
  Zion
• 16:06
  areas.
• 16:06
  I
• 16:06
  national
• 16:06
  park,
• 16:07
  arches,
• 16:07
  national
• 16:07
  park
• 16:08
  companies
• 16:08
  are
• 16:08
  moving
• 16:09
  in
• 16:09
  with
• 16:09
  these
• 16:09
  grandiose
• 16:10
  plans
• 16:10
  of,
• 16:12
  I
• 16:12
  think,
• 16:13
  upwards
• 16:13
  of,
• 16:13
  hundreds
• 16:14
  of
• 16:14
  thousands
• 16:15
  of
• 16:15
  guests.
• 16:16
  Glamping
• 16:17
  right
• 16:17
  on
• 16:17
  the
• 16:17
  doorstep
• 16:18
  of
• 16:18
  a
• 16:18
  national
• 16:18
  park,
• 16:20
  BLM
• 16:20
  lands,
• 16:21
  public
• 16:22
  lands.
• 16:22
  And
• 16:22
  so
• 16:22
  the
• 16:23
  question
• 16:23
  is
• 16:23
  this
• 16:24
  appropriate?
• 16:25
  Is
• 16:25
  it
• 16:25
  putting
• 16:25
  too
• 16:25
  much
• 16:26
  pressure
• 16:26
  on
• 16:26
  the
• 16:26
  national
• 16:26
  park?
• 16:27
  Are
• 16:28
  we
• 16:28
  really
• 16:29
  turning
• 16:29
  national
• 16:29
  parks
• 16:30
  into
• 16:30
  these
• 16:30
  biological
• 16:31
  islands
• 16:31
  that
• 16:32
  are
• 16:32
  surrounded
• 16:33
  by
• 16:33
  human
• 16:34
  presence?
• 16:36
  Yeah,
• 16:36
  it's
• 16:36
  interesting.
• 16:37
  I'll
• 16:37
  just
• 16:38
  touch
• 16:38
  on
• 16:38
  this
• 16:38
  in
• 16:39
  Canada
• 16:39
  parks.
• 16:39
  Canada
• 16:40
  does
• 16:40
  have
• 16:40
  a
• 16:41
  glamping
• 16:41
  program.
• 16:42
  They
• 16:42
  actually
• 16:42
  do
• 16:43
  a
• 16:43
  learn
• 16:43
  to
• 16:43
  camp
• 16:44
  program
• 16:45
  and
• 16:45
  they've
• 16:45
  got
• 16:46
  your
• 16:46
  units
• 16:47
  and
• 16:47
  other
• 16:47
  canvas
• 16:47
  structures
• 16:48
  set
• 16:48
  up
• 16:48
  in
• 16:48
  several
• 16:49
  of
• 16:49
  their
• 16:49
  parks
• 16:50
  and
• 16:50
  they.
• 16:50
  Sex
• 16:50
  pairs
• 16:50
  sections
• 16:51
  of
• 16:51
  the
• 16:51
  market
• 16:52
  that
• 16:52
  aren't
• 16:52
  technically
• 16:53
  campers
• 16:53
  yet.
• 16:53
  So
• 16:54
  whether
• 16:55
  that's
• 16:55
  a
• 16:56
  new
• 16:56
  Canadians
• 16:57
  who
• 16:57
  maybe
• 16:57
  just
• 16:57
  immigrated
• 16:58
  or
• 16:58
  something
• 16:59
  like
• 16:59
  that
• 16:59
  they
• 16:59
  run
• 17:00
  programs
• 17:00
  specifically
• 17:01
  using
• 17:02
  glamping
• 17:02
  units
• 17:03
  inside
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  national
• 17:04
  parks
• 17:04
  to
• 17:04
  get
• 17:04
  more
• 17:05
  folks
• 17:05
  Camping.
• 17:05
  And
• 17:05
  those
• 17:06
  are
• 17:06
  great
• 17:06
  examples
• 17:06
  of
• 17:07
  how
• 17:08
  our
• 17:08
  national
• 17:08
  and
• 17:09
  provincial
• 17:09
  park
• 17:10
  spaces
• 17:10
  really
• 17:11
  support
• 17:11
  our
• 17:11
  industry
• 17:12
  as
• 17:12
  a
• 17:12
  whole.
• 17:12
  And,
• 17:13
  I
• 17:13
  think
• 17:13
  private
• 17:14
  operators
• 17:15
  sometimes
• 17:15
  struggle
• 17:16
  with
• 17:16
  having
• 17:17
  a
• 17:17
  good
• 17:17
  collaborative
• 17:18
  relationship
• 17:19
  with
• 17:19
  those
• 17:19
  parks,
• 17:19
  but
• 17:20
  that's
• 17:20
  one
• 17:20
  of
• 17:20
  the
• 17:21
  ways
• 17:21
  that
• 17:21
  they
• 17:22
  really
• 17:22
  impact
• 17:22
  our
• 17:22
  industry
• 17:23
  in
• 17:23
  such
• 17:23
  a
• 17:23
  positive
• 17:23
  way.
• 17:27
  Scott.
• 17:27
  Did
• 17:28
  you
• 17:28
  have
• 17:28
  anything
• 17:28
  to
• 17:28
  say
• 17:28
  to,
• 17:29
  to
• 17:29
  what
• 17:29
  Kurt
• 17:29
  was
• 17:29
  saying,
• 17:29
  or
• 17:30
  I
• 17:31
  think
• 17:31
  it's
• 17:31
  a
• 17:31
  really
• 17:31
  important
• 17:32
  question.
• 17:33
  I
• 17:33
  don't
• 17:33
  know
• 17:33
  that
• 17:33
  I've,
• 17:33
  I
• 17:34
  don't
• 17:34
  have
• 17:34
  the,
• 17:35
  I
• 17:35
  don't
• 17:35
  have
• 17:36
  a
• 17:36
  S
• 17:36
  a
• 17:36
  solution
• 17:37
  by
• 17:37
  any
• 17:37
  means,
• 17:37
  but
• 17:37
  I
• 17:37
  think
• 17:38
  what's
• 17:38
  really
• 17:38
  important
• 17:39
  is
• 17:39
  being
• 17:40
  a
• 17:40
  good
• 17:40
  steward
• 17:41
  of
• 17:41
  the
• 17:41
  national
• 17:41
  parks
• 17:42
  and
• 17:43
  what
• 17:43
  it
• 17:43
  means
• 17:43
  to
• 17:43
  visit
• 17:44
  them
• 17:44
  responsibly
• 17:45
  and
• 17:45
  what
• 17:46
  it
• 17:46
  also
• 17:46
  means
• 17:46
  to
• 17:47
  be
• 17:48
  a
• 17:48
  I
• 17:48
  Camping
• 17:49
  or
• 17:49
  glamping
• 17:49
  establishment
• 17:50
  and
• 17:51
  how
• 17:51
  you
• 17:51
  can
• 17:51
  partner
• 17:52
  and
• 17:52
  support
• 17:53
  the
• 17:53
  national
• 17:53
  parks
• 17:53
  as
• 17:53
  well.
• 17:54
  I
• 17:54
  think
• 17:54
  there's
• 17:54
  a
• 17:54
  lot
• 17:55
  of,
• 17:55
  I've
• 17:55
  seen
• 17:55
  a
• 17:55
  lot
• 17:55
  of
• 17:55
  backlash.
• 17:57
  To
• 17:57
  my
• 17:57
  cart
• 17:58
  was
• 17:58
  saying
• 17:59
  not
• 17:59
  necessarily
• 18:00
  from,
• 18:00
  it
• 18:00
  seems
• 18:01
  like
• 18:01
  government
• 18:01
  agencies,
• 18:02
  but
• 18:02
  more
• 18:02
  so
• 18:02
  from
• 18:03
  local
• 18:03
  communities
• 18:03
  that
• 18:04
  live
• 18:04
  near
• 18:04
  these
• 18:05
  national
• 18:05
  parks
• 18:05
  that,
• 18:06
  they
• 18:06
  moved
• 18:06
  there
• 18:06
  for
• 18:07
  a
• 18:07
  certain
• 18:07
  seclusion
• 18:08
  and,
• 18:08
  ability
• 18:09
  to
• 18:09
  access
• 18:09
  them
• 18:10
  and
• 18:10
  enjoy
• 18:10
  the
• 18:10
  tranquility
• 18:11
  and
• 18:11
  of
• 18:11
  that.
• 18:12
  And,
• 18:12
  I
• 18:12
  think
• 18:12
  the
• 18:13
  issue
• 18:13
  really
• 18:13
  does
• 18:14
  stem
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  how
• 18:15
  you
• 18:15
  can
• 18:16
  support
• 18:16
  them
• 18:17
  and
• 18:17
  operate
• 18:17
  a
• 18:17
  business
• 18:18
  that
• 18:18
  brings
• 18:19
  awareness
• 18:19
  to
• 18:19
  the
• 18:19
  national
• 18:20
  parks
• 18:20
  and
• 18:20
  brings
• 18:20
  awareness
• 18:21
  to
• 18:22
  the
• 18:22
  intrinsic
• 18:23
  values
• 18:23
  of.
• 18:23
  Visiting
• 18:24
  these
• 18:24
  places,
• 18:24
  but
• 18:25
  in
• 18:25
  a
• 18:25
  way
• 18:25
  that
• 18:26
  in
• 18:26
  a
• 18:26
  way
• 18:26
  that
• 18:26
  doesn't
• 18:27
  overrun
• 18:27
  them
• 18:28
  and
• 18:28
  which
• 18:28
  is
• 18:28
  something
• 18:29
  that
• 18:29
  I
• 18:29
  think,
• 18:29
  the
• 18:29
  national
• 18:30
  park
• 18:30
  system
• 18:30
  is
• 18:30
  dealing
• 18:31
  with
• 18:31
  already.
• 18:31
  I
• 18:31
  just
• 18:32
  saw
• 18:32
  yesterday
• 18:32
  that,
• 18:33
  somebody,
• 18:33
  I
• 18:33
  think
• 18:33
  for
• 18:34
  the
• 18:34
  first
• 18:34
  time
• 18:34
  in
• 18:34
  awhile
• 18:35
  is
• 18:35
  able
• 18:35
  to
• 18:35
  move
• 18:36
  away
• 18:36
  from
• 18:36
  a
• 18:36
  reservation
• 18:37
  system
• 18:37
  for
• 18:37
  access.
• 18:38
  So
• 18:39
  I
• 18:39
  don't
• 18:39
  know
• 18:39
  what
• 18:39
  that
• 18:40
  really
• 18:40
  means
• 18:40
  in
• 18:40
  the
• 18:40
  grand
• 18:41
  scheme
• 18:41
  of
• 18:41
  things,
• 18:42
  but
• 18:42
  I
• 18:42
  think
• 18:42
  it
• 18:43
  is
• 18:43
  very
• 18:43
  interesting
• 18:43
  to
• 18:43
  see
• 18:44
  how
• 18:44
  we
• 18:44
  can
• 18:45
  partner
• 18:45
  with
• 18:45
  national
• 18:46
  parks.
• 18:46
  And
• 18:46
  I
• 18:46
  think
• 18:47
  Kurt,
• 18:47
  we
• 18:47
  should
• 18:47
  have
• 18:47
  some
• 18:47
  discussions,
• 18:48
  as
• 18:48
  maybe
• 18:49
  in
• 18:49
  a
• 18:49
  future
• 18:50
  ways,
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  weekend
• 18:51
  ways
• 18:52
  that
• 18:52
  the
• 18:52
  private
• 18:52
  sector
• 18:52
  can
• 18:53
  help
• 18:53
  support
• 18:54
  what
• 18:54
  you're
• 18:54
  doing
• 18:54
  in
• 18:54
  the
• 18:55
  national
• 18:55
  park
• 18:56
  system
• 18:56
  as
• 18:56
  well.
• 18:56
  I'll
• 18:57
  say
• 18:57
  that
• 18:57
  you
• 18:57
  have
• 18:57
  seventies
• 18:58
  reservation
• 18:58
  system
• 18:59
  that
• 18:59
  was
• 18:59
  just
• 19:00
  implemented
• 19:01
  largely
• 19:01
  during
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  COVID
• 19:02
  crisis.
• 19:02
  And
• 19:03
  Rocky
• 19:03
  mountain
• 19:03
  national
• 19:04
  park
• 19:04
  had
• 19:04
  a
• 19:05
  similar
• 19:05
  one.
• 19:06
  Acadia
• 19:06
  national
• 19:06
  park
• 19:07
  has
• 19:07
  a
• 19:07
  reservation
• 19:07
  system
• 19:08
  as
• 19:08
  well.
• 19:08
  If
• 19:08
  you
• 19:08
  want
• 19:08
  to
• 19:08
  go
• 19:08
  up
• 19:09
  to
• 19:09
  the
• 19:09
  summit
• 19:09
  of
• 19:09
  Cadillac
• 19:10
  mountain,
• 19:10
  but
• 19:10
  that
• 19:11
  was
• 19:11
  more
• 19:11
  to
• 19:12
  address
• 19:12
  just
• 19:13
  general
• 19:13
  congestion.
• 19:14
  Whereas
• 19:14
  what
• 19:14
  was
• 19:14
  going
• 19:15
  on
• 19:15
  at
• 19:15
  Rocky
• 19:16
  and
• 19:16
  Yosemite
• 19:17
  was
• 19:17
  tied
• 19:17
  directly
• 19:18
  to
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  Corona
• 19:19
  virus
• 19:19
  pandemic,
• 19:20
  although
• 19:21
  Rocky
• 19:21
  mountain
• 19:22
  acknowledges
• 19:22
  that
• 19:22
  they
• 19:22
  do
• 19:23
  have
• 19:23
  a
• 19:23
  congestion
• 19:24
  problem.
• 19:24
  A
• 19:25
  lot
• 19:25
  of
• 19:25
  people
• 19:25
  have
• 19:25
  told
• 19:26
  park
• 19:26
  staff
• 19:26
  that
• 19:26
  they
• 19:26
  won't
• 19:27
  be
• 19:27
  coming
• 19:27
  back
• 19:27
  until
• 19:28
  it's
• 19:28
  stress
• 19:28
  addressed.
• 19:29
  And
• 19:29
  we
• 19:29
  had
• 19:29
  a
• 19:30
  podcast,
• 19:30
  I
• 19:30
  think
• 19:30
  it
• 19:31
  was
• 19:31
  last
• 19:31
  week
• 19:31
  with
• 19:31
  the
• 19:31
  superintendent
• 19:32
  of
• 19:32
  Rocky
• 19:32
  mountain
• 19:33
  delving
• 19:33
  into
• 19:33
  that.
• 19:34
  But
• 19:34
  I
• 19:34
  think
• 19:34
  it's
• 19:34
  a
• 19:35
  larger
• 19:35
  problem
• 19:35
  because
• 19:36
  not
• 19:37
  just
• 19:37
  inside
• 19:37
  the
• 19:37
  national
• 19:38
  parks,
• 19:38
  but
• 19:38
  surrounding.
• 19:40
  How
• 19:40
  much
• 19:40
  is
• 19:40
  too
• 19:40
  much.
• 19:41
  How
• 19:41
  much
• 19:41
  before
• 19:41
  you
• 19:42
  kill
• 19:42
  that
• 19:42
  golden
• 19:42
  goose,
• 19:43
  which
• 19:43
  is
• 19:44
  the
• 19:44
  national
• 19:44
  park
• 19:44
  system.
• 19:45
  There's
• 19:45
  incredible
• 19:46
  overcrowding
• 19:47
  and
• 19:47
  in
• 19:47
  places
• 19:47
  like
• 19:48
  Zion
• 19:48
  and
• 19:48
  Yosemite
• 19:49
  and
• 19:49
  Yellowstone
• 19:50
  and
• 19:50
  Rocky
• 19:50
  mountain,
• 19:52
  how
• 19:52
  much
• 19:52
  is
• 19:52
  too
• 19:52
  much
• 19:52
  before
• 19:53
  people
• 19:53
  start
• 19:53
  saying,
• 19:54
  I'm
• 19:54
  not
• 19:54
  going
• 19:54
  to
• 19:54
  go
• 19:54
  to
• 19:54
  those
• 19:55
  parks.
• 19:55
  And
• 19:56
  the
• 19:56
  commercial
• 19:57
  industry
• 19:57
  suffers
• 19:57
  because
• 19:58
  of.
• 19:58
  It's
• 19:59
  a
• 19:59
  tough
• 19:59
  one
• 19:59
  to,
• 20:00
  I'm
• 20:00
  glad
• 20:00
  I'm
• 20:01
  not
• 20:01
  managing
• 20:01
  either
• 20:01
  a
• 20:01
  park
• 20:02
  or
• 20:02
  a
• 20:03
  Campground
• 20:03
  community.
• 20:06
  Yeah.
• 20:06
  It's
• 20:06
  a
• 20:06
  delicate
• 20:07
  balance
• 20:07
  that
• 20:07
  we'll
• 20:07
  figure
• 20:07
  out.
• 20:08
  I'm
• 20:08
  sure
• 20:08
  we'll
• 20:08
  dive
• 20:08
  into,
• 20:09
  over
• 20:09
  the
• 20:09
  course
• 20:10
  of
• 20:10
  maybe
• 20:10
  even
• 20:10
  later
• 20:10
  on
• 20:10
  this
• 20:10
  show,
• 20:11
  but
• 20:11
  just
• 20:11
  before
• 20:11
  Casey,
• 20:12
  I
• 20:12
  know
• 20:12
  Casey
• 20:12
  is
• 20:12
  not
• 20:12
  going
• 20:13
  to
• 20:13
  be
• 20:13
  on
• 20:13
  the
• 20:13
  show
• 20:13
  with
• 20:13
  us
• 20:13
  too
• 20:14
  long.
• 20:14
  So
• 20:14
  Casey,
• 20:15
  one
• 20:15
  of
• 20:15
  the
• 20:15
  questions
• 20:16
  that
• 20:16
  I
• 20:16
  have
• 20:16
  real
• 20:16
  quick,
• 20:16
  and
• 20:16
  you
• 20:17
  can
• 20:17
  talk
• 20:17
  more
• 20:17
  about
• 20:17
  glamping
• 20:18
  and
• 20:18
  what
• 20:18
  you're
• 20:18
  seeing
• 20:18
  as
• 20:18
  a
• 20:18
  vendor
• 20:18
  perspective
• 20:19
  too,
• 20:19
  but,
• 20:20
  and
• 20:20
  maybe
• 20:20
  this
• 20:20
  is
• 20:20
  throwing
• 20:21
  you
• 20:21
  into
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  fire
• 20:21
  a
• 20:21
  little
• 20:22
  bit,
• 20:22
  cause
• 20:22
  it's
• 20:22
  a
• 20:22
  controversial
• 20:23
  topic.
• 20:23
  But
• 20:23
  when
• 20:23
  I
• 20:23
  was
• 20:24
  there
• 20:24
  in
• 20:24
  2019,
• 20:25
  I
• 20:25
  would
• 20:25
  meet
• 20:25
  a
• 20:25
  lot
• 20:25
  of
• 20:25
  people.
• 20:26
  And
• 20:26
  I
• 20:26
  think
• 20:26
  you
• 20:27
  and
• 20:27
  Scott
• 20:27
  both
• 20:27
  touched
• 20:28
  on
• 20:28
  this
• 20:28
  with
• 20:28
  people
• 20:28
  who
• 20:28
  are
• 20:28
  looking
• 20:29
  to
• 20:29
  set
• 20:29
  up
• 20:29
  the
• 20:29
  one
• 20:30
  site,
• 20:30
  the
• 20:30
  two
• 20:30
  sites,
• 20:30
  the
• 20:31
  10
• 20:31
  sites,
• 20:31
  the
• 20:31
  whatever,
• 20:32
  is
• 20:32
  there
• 20:32
  a
• 20:33
  sense
• 20:33
  of
• 20:33
  the
• 20:34
  difference
• 20:34
  between
• 20:34
  the
• 20:35
  people
• 20:35
  who
• 20:35
  are
• 20:35
  looking
• 20:35
  to
• 20:35
  operate
• 20:36
  glamping
• 20:36
  from
• 20:37
  a
• 20:37
  Campground
• 20:38
  perspective
• 20:38
  versus
• 20:39
  an
• 20:39
  individual
• 20:40
  land
• 20:40
  use
• 20:40
  hip
• 20:41
  camp
• 20:41
  type
• 20:41
  perspective?
• 20:48
  I
• 20:48
  don't
• 20:49
  have
• 20:49
  any
• 20:49
  audio
• 20:49
  from
• 20:49
  you,
• 20:50
  Casey.
• 20:50
  I'm
• 20:50
  sorry.
• 20:52
  I
• 20:52
  don't
• 20:53
  know
• 20:53
  if
• 20:53
  you're
• 20:53
  muted,
• 20:53
  but
• 20:55
  I
• 20:55
  think
• 20:55
  I'm
• 20:55
  good
• 20:55
  now.
• 20:55
  Sorry.
• 20:58
  Yeah.
• 20:58
  So
• 20:59
  th
• 20:59
  that
• 20:59
  is
• 20:59
  an
• 20:59
  interesting
• 21:00
  thing,
• 21:00
  because
• 21:01
  there's
• 21:01
  just
• 21:01
  a
• 21:01
  lot
• 21:01
  of
• 21:02
  legalities
• 21:03
  to
• 21:03
  people
• 21:03
  just
• 21:03
  setting
• 21:03
  up
• 21:04
  shop,
• 21:04
  like
• 21:04
  you
• 21:04
  have
• 21:05
  this
• 21:05
  space
• 21:05
  here,
• 21:05
  or
• 21:06
  actually
• 21:06
  zoning
• 21:06
  it
• 21:07
  to
• 21:07
  actually
• 21:07
  be
• 21:08
  a
• 21:08
  legitimate
• 21:08
  Campground
• 21:09
  spot
• 21:10
  specifically.
• 21:10
  We've
• 21:10
  taken
• 21:11
  the
• 21:11
  stance
• 21:11
  that
• 21:11
  we
• 21:12
  were
• 21:12
  only
• 21:12
  working
• 21:13
  with,
• 21:13
  say
• 21:13
  legitimate
• 21:14
  a
• 21:14
  in
• 21:14
  a
• 21:14
  negative
• 21:14
  way
• 21:15
  or
• 21:15
  the
• 21:15
  other
• 21:15
  way,
• 21:15
  but
• 21:16
  with
• 21:16
  real
• 21:16
  campgrounds,
• 21:17
  with
• 21:17
  analyse
• 21:18
  that
• 21:18
  set
• 21:18
  up
• 21:18
  and
• 21:18
  zones
• 21:19
  specifically
• 21:19
  for
• 21:19
  that
• 21:20
  type
• 21:20
  of
• 21:20
  business.
• 21:21
  But
• 21:21
  it's
• 21:21
  interesting
• 21:22
  because
• 21:22
  in
• 21:22
  that
• 21:22
  same
• 21:22
  breath,
• 21:23
  we're
• 21:23
  probably
• 21:23
  telling
• 21:24
  50,
• 21:25
  quote
• 21:25
  unquote
• 21:25
  non
• 21:26
  parks
• 21:26
  a
• 21:26
  week.
• 21:27
  Hey,
• 21:27
  this
• 21:27
  isn't
• 21:27
  a
• 21:27
  good
• 21:28
  fit.
• 21:28
  Either
• 21:28
  for
• 21:28
  our
• 21:28
  stocker
• 21:29
  or
• 21:29
  for
• 21:29
  our
• 21:29
  marketplace,
• 21:30
  just
• 21:31
  because
• 21:31
  that's
• 21:32
  where
• 21:32
  we're
• 21:32
  focused
• 21:32
  on
• 21:32
  right
• 21:33
  now,
• 21:33
  because
• 21:33
  we
• 21:33
  don't
• 21:33
  know
• 21:33
  what
• 21:33
  the
• 21:34
  future
• 21:34
  holds
• 21:34
  for
• 21:34
  a
• 21:34
  lot
• 21:35
  of
• 21:35
  kind
• 21:35
  of
• 21:35
  hip
• 21:35
  to
• 21:35
  hip
• 21:35
  camp
• 21:36
  type
• 21:36
  properties.
• 21:37
  Are
• 21:37
  those
• 21:37
  going
• 21:37
  to
• 21:37
  still
• 21:38
  be
• 21:38
  legal?
• 21:38
  Are
• 21:39
  they
• 21:39
  getting
• 21:39
  shut
• 21:39
  down?
• 21:39
  Are
• 21:40
  they
• 21:40
  having
• 21:40
  to
• 21:41
  adjust
• 21:41
  change?
• 21:41
  And
• 21:42
  really
• 21:42
  us
• 21:43
  being
• 21:43
  focused
• 21:43
  on
• 21:43
  the
• 21:43
  Campground
• 21:44
  market
• 21:44
  campgrounds
• 21:45
  are
• 21:45
  at
• 21:45
  a
• 21:45
  disadvantage.
• 21:46
  If
• 21:46
  someone
• 21:46
  can
• 21:46
  just
• 21:47
  throw
• 21:47
  up
• 21:47
  a
• 21:47
  year,
• 21:48
  and
• 21:48
  not
• 21:48
  have
• 21:48
  to
• 21:48
  get
• 21:48
  zoned
• 21:49
  for
• 21:49
  it
• 21:49
  and
• 21:49
  I'd
• 21:49
  have
• 21:49
  to
• 21:49
  have
• 21:49
  proper
• 21:51
  Tricity
• 21:51
  and
• 21:51
  bathrooms
• 21:52
  and
• 21:52
  things
• 21:52
  of
• 21:52
  that
• 21:52
  sort.
• 21:53
  We're
• 21:53
  erring
• 21:53
  on
• 21:53
  the
• 21:54
  side
• 21:54
  of,
• 21:54
  supporting
• 21:54
  the
• 21:54
  Campground
• 21:55
  space.
• 21:55
  So
• 21:56
  which
• 21:56
  hopefully
• 21:57
  means
• 21:57
  that
• 21:57
  we
• 21:57
  turned,
• 21:57
  two
• 21:58
  thirds
• 21:58
  of
• 21:58
  the
• 21:58
  people
• 21:58
  here
• 21:59
  away
• 21:59
  that
• 21:59
  it's
• 21:59
  just
• 22:00
  really
• 22:00
  not
• 22:00
  a
• 22:00
  good
• 22:00
  fit
• 22:01
  for
• 22:01
  our
• 22:01
  business.
• 22:02
  But
• 22:02
  it'll
• 22:02
  be
• 22:02
  interesting
• 22:03
  to
• 22:03
  see.
• 22:03
  Scott
• 22:03
  would
• 22:04
  be
• 22:04
  a
• 22:04
  good.
• 22:04
  A
• 22:04
  lot
• 22:04
  of
• 22:04
  parks
• 22:05
  are
• 22:05
  adding
• 22:05
  clamping.
• 22:06
  We
• 22:06
  see
• 22:06
  that
• 22:06
  a
• 22:06
  ton
• 22:06
  of
• 22:07
  back
• 22:07
  and
• 22:07
  pay
• 22:07
  that
• 22:07
  by
• 22:08
  the
• 22:08
  amount
• 22:08
  of
• 22:09
  edits
• 22:09
  that
• 22:09
  we're
• 22:09
  doing
• 22:10
  right
• 22:10
  now
• 22:10
  for
• 22:10
  Campground.
• 22:13
  And
• 22:13
  we
• 22:14
  almost
• 22:14
  at
• 22:14
  a
• 22:14
  double
• 22:15
  down
• 22:15
  on
• 22:15
  our
• 22:15
  graphic
• 22:15
  designers
• 22:16
  just
• 22:16
  to
• 22:16
  come
• 22:16
  up
• 22:16
  with
• 22:16
  them.
• 22:17
  And
• 22:17
  a
• 22:17
  lot
• 22:17
  of
• 22:17
  it
• 22:17
  is
• 22:17
  lodging,
• 22:18
  right?
• 22:18
  They're
• 22:18
  adding
• 22:19
  cabins
• 22:20
  or
• 22:20
  tiny
• 22:20
  home
• 22:21
  type
• 22:21
  aspects
• 22:21
  or
• 22:22
  yurts.
• 22:22
  And
• 22:23
  just
• 22:23
  to
• 22:23
  add
• 22:23
  that
• 22:23
  experience.
• 22:24
  So
• 22:24
  I
• 22:24
  think
• 22:24
  there's
• 22:25
  a
• 22:25
  lot
• 22:25
  to
• 22:25
  be
• 22:26
  decided
• 22:27
  on
• 22:27
  will
• 22:27
  this
• 22:28
  new
• 22:28
  experience
• 22:28
  last
• 22:29
  will
• 22:29
  people
• 22:30
  default
• 22:30
  back
• 22:31
  to
• 22:31
  a
• 22:32
  really
• 22:32
  cool
• 22:32
  tenant
• 22:33
  or
• 22:33
  the
• 22:33
  people
• 22:34
  that
• 22:34
  are
• 22:34
  looking
• 22:34
  for
• 22:34
  lodging,
• 22:35
  they're
• 22:35
  going
• 22:35
  to
• 22:36
  want
• 22:36
  to
• 22:37
  go
• 22:37
  back
• 22:37
  to
• 22:37
  the
• 22:37
  traditional
• 22:37
  cabin.
• 22:38
  Because
• 22:38
  right
• 22:38
  now
• 22:39
  you
• 22:39
  can't
• 22:40
  miss
• 22:40
  right
• 22:40
  now
• 22:40
  with
• 22:40
  outdoor
• 22:41
  lodging,
• 22:41
  right?
• 22:41
  Almost
• 22:42
  anything
• 22:42
  that's
• 22:43
  outdoor.
• 22:43
  For
• 22:44
  the
• 22:44
  most
• 22:44
  part,
• 22:44
  people
• 22:44
  are
• 22:45
  eating
• 22:45
  up.
• 22:45
  It's
• 22:45
  a
• 22:46
  matter
• 22:46
  of
• 22:47
  a
• 22:47
  cabin.
• 22:48
  We
• 22:48
  know
• 22:48
  it
• 22:48
  has
• 22:49
  been
• 22:49
  proven,
• 22:49
  we
• 22:49
  know
• 22:50
  that
• 22:50
  having
• 22:50
  return
• 22:51
  on
• 22:51
  the
• 22:51
  investments
• 22:51
  that
• 22:51
  are.
• 22:52
  And
• 22:52
  we
• 22:52
  know
• 22:52
  that
• 22:53
  there's
• 22:53
  a
• 22:54
  audience
• 22:54
  that
• 22:55
  want
• 22:55
  to
• 22:55
  be
• 22:55
  in
• 22:55
  a
• 22:55
  camper,
• 22:57
  an
• 22:57
  RV
• 22:57
  trailer,
• 22:58
  but
• 22:59
  they
• 22:59
  all
• 23:00
  are
• 23:00
  dedicated
• 23:01
  to
• 23:01
  being
• 23:01
  in
• 23:01
  the
• 23:01
  Campground.
• 23:01
  That's
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  experience
• 23:02
  that
• 23:03
  they
• 23:03
  want.
• 23:03
  W
• 23:03
  we'll
• 23:03
  glamping,
• 23:04
  the
• 23:04
  longevity
• 23:05
  of
• 23:05
  it
• 23:05
  work
• 23:05
  as
• 23:05
  well
• 23:06
  as
• 23:06
  those
• 23:06
  cabins
• 23:07
  have,
• 23:07
  I
• 23:07
  think
• 23:07
  that's
• 23:07
  yet
• 23:07
  to
• 23:07
  be
• 23:07
  proven,
• 23:08
  but
• 23:08
  Scott
• 23:08
  probably
• 23:09
  has
• 23:10
  properties
• 23:10
  that
• 23:10
  have
• 23:11
  them
• 23:11
  on
• 23:11
  there
• 23:11
  and
• 23:12
  he
• 23:12
  would,
• 23:12
  he
• 23:12
  would
• 23:12
  know
• 23:12
  better
• 23:12
  than
• 23:13
  I.
• 23:13
  No,
• 23:13
  I
• 23:13
  think
• 23:14
  everything
• 23:14
  you
• 23:14
  said
• 23:15
  rings
• 23:15
  true
• 23:15
  to
• 23:15
  me
• 23:15
  as
• 23:16
  well,
• 23:16
  Casey.
• 23:16
  And
• 23:17
  I
• 23:17
  probably
• 23:17
  should
• 23:17
  talk
• 23:18
  quietly
• 23:18
  because
• 23:18
  that's
• 23:19
  probably
• 23:19
  not
• 23:19
  a
• 23:19
  popular
• 23:19
  thing
• 23:20
  to
• 23:20
  say
• 23:20
  here,
• 23:20
  but
• 23:20
  think
• 23:21
  that
• 23:21
  yeah,
• 23:21
  the
• 23:21
  number
• 23:22
  of
• 23:22
  people
• 23:22
  that
• 23:22
  we've
• 23:22
  talked
• 23:23
  to
• 23:23
  that
• 23:24
  that
• 23:24
  are,
• 23:24
  that
• 23:24
  have
• 23:25
  land,
• 23:25
  and
• 23:25
  they're
• 23:25
  just
• 23:26
  going
• 23:26
  to
• 23:26
  pop
• 23:26
  up
• 23:26
  a
• 23:26
  few
• 23:27
  safari
• 23:27
  tents
• 23:28
  and
• 23:28
  do
• 23:28
  off
• 23:28
  the
• 23:28
  grid,
• 23:29
  Camping
• 23:29
  and
• 23:29
  they're,
• 23:30
  outside
• 23:30
  of
• 23:30
  Portland
• 23:30
  or,
• 23:31
  in
• 23:31
  these
• 23:31
  probably
• 23:32
  really
• 23:32
  cool
• 23:32
  spots
• 23:33
  and
• 23:33
  they
• 23:33
  probably
• 23:33
  have
• 23:33
  really
• 23:33
  beautiful
• 23:34
  properties
• 23:34
  and
• 23:34
  great
• 23:35
  intentions,
• 23:35
  but
• 23:36
  a
• 23:36
  lot
• 23:37
  of
• 23:37
  it
• 23:37
  is
• 23:37
  really
• 23:38
  illegal
• 23:38
  from
• 23:38
  a
• 23:38
  zoning
• 23:39
  perspective.
• 23:39
  Yeah.
• 23:40
  And
• 23:40
  so
• 23:40
  what
• 23:40
  we
• 23:41
  what
• 23:41
  we
• 23:41
  have
• 23:41
  found
• 23:42
  in,
• 23:42
  in,
• 23:42
  in
• 23:43
  a
• 23:43
  true
• 23:43
  RV
• 23:43
  resort
• 23:44
  in
• 23:44
  Camping
• 23:44
  space
• 23:45
  and,
• 23:45
  permitted
• 23:46
  glamping
• 23:46
  properties,
• 23:49
  How
• 23:49
  you
• 23:49
  do
• 23:50
  it.
• 23:50
  I
• 23:50
  think
• 23:51
  how
• 23:51
  we
• 23:51
  build
• 23:51
  it
• 23:52
  will
• 23:52
  help
• 23:52
  to
• 23:53
  determine
• 23:54
  how
• 23:54
  long
• 23:54
  this
• 23:55
  wave
• 23:55
  may
• 23:55
  last.
• 23:56
  And
• 23:56
  what
• 23:56
  I
• 23:56
  mean
• 23:57
  specifically
• 23:57
  by
• 23:57
  that
• 23:58
  is
• 23:58
  we've
• 23:58
  got
• 23:58
  a
• 23:58
  couple
• 23:59
  of
• 23:59
  properties
• 23:59
  that
• 23:59
  are
• 23:59
  like
• 24:00
  this.
• 24:00
  We've
• 24:00
  got,
• 24:00
  safari
• 24:01
  really
• 24:01
  beautiful
• 24:02
  safari
• 24:02
  lodges
• 24:03
  with
• 24:03
  bathrooms,
• 24:03
  but
• 24:03
  they're
• 24:04
  10
• 24:04
  feet
• 24:05
  from
• 24:05
  their
• 24:05
  neighbor.
• 24:06
  And
• 24:06
  we're
• 24:07
  working
• 24:07
  to
• 24:07
  actively
• 24:08
  figure
• 24:08
  out
• 24:08
  how
• 24:08
  we
• 24:08
  resolve
• 24:09
  that
• 24:09
  because
• 24:10
  people
• 24:10
  say
• 24:10
  we
• 24:10
  love
• 24:11
  the
• 24:11
  experience,
• 24:12
  but
• 24:12
  it
• 24:13
  felt
• 24:13
  like
• 24:13
  we
• 24:13
  were
• 24:13
  in
• 24:13
  a
• 24:13
  beautiful
• 24:14
  hotel
• 24:14
  room,
• 24:15
  but
• 24:15
  we
• 24:15
  could
• 24:15
  hear
• 24:15
  everything
• 24:16
  our
• 24:16
  neighbors
• 24:16
  were
• 24:16
  doing
• 24:16
  at
• 24:16
  their
• 24:17
  campfire
• 24:17
  until
• 24:18
  1:00
• 24:18
  AM
• 24:18
  or
• 24:18
  whatever
• 24:19
  it
• 24:19
  was.
• 24:19
  And
• 24:19
  so
• 24:20
  I
• 24:20
  think
• 24:20
  if
• 24:20
  we
• 24:21
  continue
• 24:22
  in
• 24:22
  the
• 24:22
  private
• 24:22
  space,
• 24:23
  if
• 24:23
  we
• 24:23
  continue
• 24:23
  to
• 24:23
  develop
• 24:24
  properties
• 24:24
  that
• 24:25
  have
• 24:25
  high
• 24:25
  density
• 24:26
  and
• 24:26
  glamping
• 24:26
  units,
• 24:27
  and
• 24:27
  we
• 24:27
  don't
• 24:27
  really
• 24:28
  give
• 24:28
  them.
• 24:29
  To
• 24:29
  the
• 24:29
  experience
• 24:30
  that
• 24:30
  our
• 24:30
  guests
• 24:31
  should
• 24:31
  be
• 24:31
  having
• 24:31
  at
• 24:32
  these?
• 24:32
  I
• 24:32
  think
• 24:32
  it
• 24:32
  might,
• 24:33
  I
• 24:33
  think
• 24:33
  it
• 24:33
  may
• 24:33
  be
• 24:33
  short-lived.
• 24:34
  I
• 24:34
  think
• 24:35
  that
• 24:35
  people
• 24:35
  might
• 24:35
  be
• 24:35
  reverting
• 24:36
  back
• 24:36
  to
• 24:36
  hard
• 24:36
  sided
• 24:37
  units,
• 24:37
  which
• 24:37
  we
• 24:38
  tend
• 24:38
  to
• 24:38
  prefer
• 24:39
  anyways
• 24:39
  because
• 24:40
  of
• 24:40
  the
• 24:40
  seasonality
• 24:40
  and
• 24:40
  all
• 24:41
  sorts
• 24:41
  of
• 24:41
  maintenance
• 24:41
  operating
• 24:42
  benefits
• 24:42
  that
• 24:42
  you
• 24:42
  get
• 24:43
  in
• 24:43
  the
• 24:43
  familiarity
• 24:44
  to
• 24:44
  the
• 24:44
  hotel
• 24:44
  space.
• 24:44
  But
• 24:45
  I
• 24:45
  think
• 24:45
  it's
• 24:45
  going
• 24:45
  to
• 24:45
  be
• 24:45
  interesting
• 24:46
  to
• 24:46
  see
• 24:47
  if
• 24:47
  we
• 24:47
  can,
• 24:47
  if
• 24:47
  we,
• 24:48
  as
• 24:48
  private
• 24:48
  parks
• 24:48
  can
• 24:49
  can
• 24:49
  do
• 24:49
  this
• 24:49
  responsibly
• 24:50
  and
• 24:50
  make
• 24:51
  sure
• 24:51
  we're
• 24:51
  keeping
• 24:51
  the
• 24:51
  guests
• 24:51
  experience
• 24:52
  in
• 24:52
  mind,
• 24:53
  which
• 24:53
  I
• 24:53
  think
• 24:53
  is
• 24:53
  overlooked.
• 24:54
  I
• 24:54
  think
• 24:54
  that
• 24:55
  we
• 24:55
  can
• 24:55
  have
• 24:55
  this
• 24:56
  be
• 24:56
  more
• 24:56
  impactful
• 24:57
  to
• 24:57
  the
• 24:57
  RV
• 24:58
  industry
• 24:58
  and
• 24:59
  give
• 24:59
  folks
• 25:00
  zoned
• 25:01
  and
• 25:01
  legal
• 25:01
  places
• 25:02
  to
• 25:02
  go
• 25:02
  stay.
• 25:04
  Yeah.
• 25:05
  And
• 25:05
  you
• 25:05
  can
• 25:05
  add
• 25:05
  to
• 25:05
  that,
• 25:06
  Scott,
• 25:06
  most
• 25:06
  Campground
• 25:07
  you
• 25:07
  want
• 25:07
  to
• 25:07
  get
• 25:07
  someone
• 25:08
  to
• 25:08
  commit
• 25:09
  to
• 25:09
  your
• 25:09
  park,
• 25:10
  then
• 25:10
  you
• 25:10
  want
• 25:11
  them
• 25:11
  coming
• 25:11
  back,
• 25:11
  right?
• 25:12
  You
• 25:12
  might
• 25:12
  not
• 25:12
  want
• 25:13
  them
• 25:13
  there
• 25:13
  for
• 25:13
  six
• 25:13
  months
• 25:14
  at
• 25:14
  a
• 25:14
  time.
• 25:14
  Do
• 25:14
  you
• 25:14
  want
• 25:14
  to
• 25:14
  go
• 25:15
  more
• 25:15
  of
• 25:15
  the
• 25:16
  transient
• 25:16
  route
• 25:16
  than
• 25:17
  the
• 25:17
  permanent
• 25:18
  or
• 25:18
  long-term
• 25:18
  rough?
• 25:19
  Your
• 25:19
  goal
• 25:20
  really
• 25:20
  is
• 25:20
  to
• 25:21
  say
• 25:21
  that
• 25:21
  someone
• 25:21
  you
• 25:21
  bring
• 25:22
  them
• 25:22
  in
• 25:22
  for
• 25:22
  an
• 25:23
  experience
• 25:24
  and
• 25:24
  they
• 25:24
  want
• 25:24
  to
• 25:24
  come
• 25:24
  back
• 25:25
  for
• 25:25
  that
• 25:25
  experience,
• 25:25
  whether
• 25:26
  it's
• 25:26
  once
• 25:26
  a
• 25:26
  year,
• 25:26
  whether
• 25:26
  it's
• 25:26
  once
• 25:27
  a
• 25:27
  month
• 25:27
  or
• 25:27
  at
• 25:27
  least
• 25:27
  just
• 25:28
  when
• 25:28
  they
• 25:28
  do
• 25:28
  wanna
• 25:29
  want
• 25:29
  to
• 25:29
  go
• 25:29
  Camping
• 25:30
  that
• 25:30
  they're
• 25:30
  coming
• 25:30
  back
• 25:30
  there.
• 25:31
  And
• 25:32
  that
• 25:32
  just
• 25:32
  to
• 25:32
  Scott's
• 25:32
  point
• 25:33
  is
• 25:33
  the
• 25:33
  interesting
• 25:33
  thing.
• 25:34
  That's
• 25:34
  what
• 25:34
  the
• 25:34
  Camping
• 25:34
  industry
• 25:34
  has
• 25:35
  done
• 25:35
  such
• 25:35
  a
• 25:35
  good
• 25:35
  job
• 25:35
  of
• 25:36
  is
• 25:36
  right
• 25:36
  this
• 25:37
  spot
• 25:37
  in
• 25:37
  this
• 25:37
  area.
• 25:38
  Or
• 25:38
  I
• 25:38
  want
• 25:38
  this
• 25:38
  cabin
• 25:38
  here.
• 25:39
  I
• 25:39
  want
• 25:39
  to
• 25:39
  be
• 25:39
  by
• 25:39
  this
• 25:39
  pool
• 25:40
  or
• 25:40
  in
• 25:40
  this
• 25:41
  spot.
• 25:41
  With
• 25:41
  the
• 25:41
  glamping
• 25:41
  aspect,
• 25:42
  that
• 25:42
  entire
• 25:43
  experience
• 25:43
  or
• 25:44
  people
• 25:44
  that
• 25:44
  are
• 25:44
  coming
• 25:44
  back
• 25:45
  to
• 25:45
  it,
• 25:45
  are
• 25:45
  they
• 25:45
  going
• 25:45
  to
• 25:45
  leave?
• 25:46
  They're
• 25:46
  going,
• 25:46
  I
• 25:46
  want
• 25:47
  to
• 25:47
  book
• 25:47
  this
• 25:47
  again
• 25:48
  next
• 25:48
  year
• 25:48
  for
• 25:49
  this
• 25:49
  time
• 25:49
  with
• 25:49
  my
• 25:49
  family
• 25:51
  or
• 25:51
  with
• 25:51
  my
• 25:51
  wife
• 25:51
  or
• 25:51
  with
• 25:52
  my
• 25:52
  kids.
• 25:53
  And
• 25:53
  that,
• 25:53
  I
• 25:53
  think
• 25:53
  that's
• 25:54
  going
• 25:54
  to
• 25:54
  determine
• 25:54
  a
• 25:54
  lot.
• 25:54
  I
• 25:55
  think
• 25:55
  keeping
• 25:55
  an
• 25:55
  eye
• 25:56
  on
• 25:56
  the
• 25:56
  amount
• 25:56
  of
• 25:56
  people,
• 25:57
  rebooking
• 25:57
  is
• 25:58
  important
• 25:58
  thing
• 25:58
  to
• 25:58
  keep
• 25:58
  an
• 25:59
  eye
• 25:59
  on
• 25:59
  because
• 25:59
  that's
• 25:59
  what
• 26:00
  a
• 26:00
  lot
• 26:00
  of
• 26:00
  campgrounds
• 26:01
  rely
• 26:01
  on.
• 26:01
  Not
• 26:01
  as
• 26:01
  much.
• 26:02
  So
• 26:02
  right
• 26:02
  now
• 26:02
  there's
• 26:02
  so
• 26:03
  many
• 26:03
  new
• 26:03
  people,
• 26:03
  but
• 26:03
  ultimately
• 26:04
  you
• 26:04
  want
• 26:04
  the,
• 26:05
  you
• 26:05
  want
• 26:05
  people
• 26:05
  coming
• 26:05
  back
• 26:06
  to
• 26:06
  your
• 26:06
  park,
• 26:06
  right?
• 26:06
  That's
• 26:07
  the
• 26:08
  guaranteed
• 26:08
  way
• 26:08
  to
• 26:08
  have
• 26:08
  your
• 26:08
  revenue
• 26:09
  come
• 26:09
  back
• 26:09
  is,
• 26:09
  people
• 26:10
  rebooking.
• 26:13
  No,
• 26:13
  I
• 26:13
  completely
• 26:13
  agree.
• 26:14
  I
• 26:14
  think
• 26:14
  it's
• 26:14
  vital
• 26:15
  that
• 26:15
  we
• 26:15
  are
• 26:15
  incredibly
• 26:16
  intentional
• 26:17
  about
• 26:18
  the
• 26:18
  entire
• 26:18
  experience
• 26:19
  as
• 26:20
  a
• 26:20
  whole,
• 26:20
  as
• 26:20
  opposed
• 26:21
  to
• 26:21
  just,
• 26:21
  this
• 26:22
  unit
• 26:22
  looks
• 26:22
  nice.
• 26:23
  How
• 26:23
  many
• 26:23
  can
• 26:23
  we
• 26:23
  squeeze
• 26:24
  in
• 26:24
  here?
• 26:24
  I
• 26:24
  have
• 26:25
  to
• 26:25
  say
• 26:25
  I,
• 26:25
  especially
• 26:26
  in
• 26:26
  the
• 26:26
  last
• 26:27
  probably
• 26:27
  year,
• 26:28
  I
• 26:28
  get
• 26:29
  a
• 26:29
  few
• 26:30
  contacts
• 26:30
  a
• 26:30
  week
• 26:31
  from
• 26:31
  people
• 26:31
  who
• 26:33
  don't
• 26:33
  want
• 26:33
  to
• 26:33
  Campground
• 26:34
  yet,
• 26:34
  but
• 26:34
  want
• 26:35
  to
• 26:35
  and
• 26:35
  they're
• 26:35
  always
• 26:36
  surprised
• 26:37
  when
• 26:37
  they
• 26:37
  say,
• 26:38
  what
• 26:38
  are
• 26:38
  the
• 26:38
  steps?
• 26:38
  What
• 26:39
  do
• 26:39
  I
• 26:39
  do?
• 26:39
  And
• 26:40
  the
• 26:40
  first
• 26:40
  thing
• 26:40
  I
• 26:40
  say
• 26:41
  is
• 26:42
  you
• 26:42
  need
• 26:42
  a
• 26:42
  property
• 26:43
  that
• 26:43
  has
• 26:43
  the
• 26:44
  accurate,
• 26:44
  the
• 26:44
  appropriate
• 26:45
  zoning
• 26:46
  in
• 26:46
  order
• 26:46
  to
• 26:46
  operate
• 26:47
  this
• 26:47
  business
• 26:48
  legally.
• 26:48
  And
• 26:48
  that's
• 26:49
  sometimes
• 26:49
  can
• 26:49
  be
• 26:49
  a
• 26:49
  big
• 26:50
  challenge.
• 26:50
  And,
• 26:50
  Brandon,
• 26:50
  I
• 26:50
  think
• 26:51
  earlier
• 26:51
  when
• 26:51
  you
• 26:52
  were
• 26:52
  saying
• 26:52
  something
• 26:52
  about,
• 26:53
  a
• 26:53
  lot
• 26:53
  of
• 26:53
  people
• 26:53
  come
• 26:54
  in,
• 26:54
  maybe
• 26:54
  with
• 26:54
  the
• 26:54
  intention
• 26:55
  of
• 26:55
  starting
• 26:55
  this.
• 26:57
  That
• 26:58
  kind
• 26:58
  of
• 26:58
  fizzles
• 26:58
  over
• 26:59
  time,
• 26:59
  and
• 26:59
  maybe
• 26:59
  that
• 27:00
  doesn't
• 27:00
  happen
• 27:00
  for
• 27:00
  them.
• 27:01
  I
• 27:01
  think
• 27:01
  this
• 27:01
  is
• 27:02
  frankly,
• 27:02
  a
• 27:02
  big
• 27:03
  part
• 27:03
  of
• 27:03
  that
• 27:04
  hurdle
• 27:04
  is
• 27:05
  often
• 27:06
  the
• 27:07
  getting
• 27:07
  the
• 27:07
  zoning
• 27:08
  and
• 27:08
  that
• 27:09
  stuff
• 27:09
  in
• 27:09
  place.
• 27:09
  I
• 27:09
  think
• 27:10
  it's
• 27:10
  an
• 27:10
  important
• 27:11
  from
• 27:11
  an
• 27:11
  industry
• 27:11
  standpoint
• 27:12
  and
• 27:12
  maybe
• 27:12
  it's
• 27:12
  an
• 27:13
  association
• 27:13
  tasks
• 27:14
  that
• 27:14
  we
• 27:14
  should
• 27:14
  be
• 27:15
  doing
• 27:15
  better
• 27:15
  at,
• 27:16
  but
• 27:16
  we
• 27:16
  really
• 27:16
  need
• 27:17
  to
• 27:17
  be
• 27:17
  communicating
• 27:18
  with
• 27:18
  municipalities
• 27:19
  and
• 27:19
  counties
• 27:20
  across
• 27:20
  the
• 27:20
  continent
• 27:21
  about
• 27:22
  this
• 27:23
  business
• 27:23
  and
• 27:24
  being
• 27:24
  intentional
• 27:25
  with
• 27:25
  them
• 27:25
  as
• 27:25
  well
• 27:26
  about
• 27:27
  the
• 27:27
  type
• 27:27
  of
• 27:27
  economic
• 27:28
  diversity
• 27:28
  and
• 27:29
  impact
• 27:29
  we
• 27:29
  can
• 27:29
  have.
• 27:30
  So
• 27:30
  that
• 27:30
  those
• 27:31
  zoning
• 27:31
  changes
• 27:33
  are
• 27:33
  not
• 27:33
  such
• 27:34
  a
• 27:34
  mountainous
• 27:35
  battle
• 27:36
  to
• 27:37
  fight
• 27:37
  to
• 27:37
  get
• 27:37
  properties
• 27:38
  like
• 27:38
  this
• 27:38
  off
• 27:38
  the
• 27:39
  ground
• 27:39
  and
• 27:39
  running
• 27:39
  and
• 27:40
  operational.
• 27:42
  So
• 27:42
  I
• 27:42
  that's
• 27:43
  something
• 27:43
  important
• 27:43
  to
• 27:43
  me
• 27:44
  at
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  association
• 27:45
  level.
• 27:45
  I
• 27:45
  am
• 27:45
  committed
• 27:46
  to
• 27:46
  continuing
• 27:47
  to
• 27:47
  do
• 27:48
  that
• 27:48
  with
• 27:48
  our
• 27:49
  more
• 27:49
  local
• 27:50
  officials
• 27:51
  and
• 27:51
  things
• 27:51
  like
• 27:52
  that.
• 27:52
  Things
• 27:52
  like
• 27:53
  shows
• 27:53
  like
• 27:53
  this
• 27:53
  help,
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  glamping
• 27:54
  show
• 27:54
  helps
• 27:55
  the
• 27:55
  more
• 27:55
  people
• 27:55
  who
• 27:56
  are
• 27:56
  championing
• 27:57
  this
• 27:57
  will
• 27:57
  just
• 27:58
  continue
• 27:58
  to
• 27:58
  broaden
• 27:59
  all
• 27:59
  of
• 27:59
  that
• 27:59
  for
• 27:59
  sure.
• 27:59
  I
• 28:00
  think
• 28:00
  that's
• 28:00
  a
• 28:00
  good
• 28:01
  point,
• 28:01
  right?
• 28:01
  Like
• 28:02
  I
• 28:02
  think
• 28:02
  I'm
• 28:02
  hopeful
• 28:03
  that,
• 28:04
  and
• 28:04
  I
• 28:04
  firmly
• 28:05
  come
• 28:05
  down
• 28:05
  on
• 28:05
  the
• 28:05
  same
• 28:05
  side
• 28:06
  that
• 28:06
  Casey's
• 28:06
  on.
• 28:06
  Like
• 28:06
  we
• 28:07
  want
• 28:07
  to
• 28:07
  work
• 28:07
  primarily
• 28:07
  with
• 28:08
  campgrounds
• 28:08
  and
• 28:08
  places
• 28:09
  like
• 28:09
  that.
• 28:09
  But
• 28:09
  we
• 28:09
  are
• 28:10
  turning
• 28:10
  away.
• 28:10
  People
• 28:10
  just
• 28:11
  like
• 28:11
  Casey
• 28:11
  is
• 28:11
  at
• 28:11
  the
• 28:11
  same
• 28:12
  time.
• 28:12
  And
• 28:12
  so
• 28:12
  I
• 28:12
  think.
• 28:13
  Ideally
• 28:14
  like
• 28:14
  a
• 28:14
  perfect
• 28:15
  goal
• 28:15
  that
• 28:15
  comes
• 28:15
  out
• 28:16
  of
• 28:16
  this
• 28:16
  is
• 28:16
  the
• 28:16
  raised
• 28:17
  awareness
• 28:17
  from
• 28:17
  COVID
• 28:18
  more
• 28:18
  people
• 28:19
  who
• 28:19
  want
• 28:19
  to
• 28:19
  get
• 28:19
  into
• 28:19
  this
• 28:19
  space.
• 28:20
  More
• 28:20
  people
• 28:21
  want
• 28:21
  to
• 28:21
  start
• 28:21
  glamping
• 28:21
  businesses,
• 28:22
  but
• 28:22
  maybe
• 28:22
  that
• 28:22
  interest
• 28:23
  translates
• 28:23
  into
• 28:24
  more
• 28:24
  governmental
• 28:24
  awareness,
• 28:25
  more
• 28:25
  regulation,
• 28:26
  awareness,
• 28:26
  more
• 28:26
  willingness
• 28:27
  of
• 28:27
  permits
• 28:27
  to
• 28:27
  be
• 28:28
  approved
• 28:28
  in
• 28:28
  a
• 28:28
  quicker,
• 28:29
  more
• 28:29
  robust
• 28:29
  fashion.
• 28:30
  And
• 28:30
  then
• 28:30
  that
• 28:31
  not
• 28:31
  only
• 28:31
  helps
• 28:31
  the
• 28:31
  glamping
• 28:32
  businesses
• 28:33
  become
• 28:33
  campgrounds,
• 28:34
  but
• 28:34
  the
• 28:34
  campgrounds
• 28:35
  get
• 28:35
  easier
• 28:36
  to
• 28:36
  approvals
• 28:36
  and
• 28:37
  loans
• 28:37
  and
• 28:37
  regulations
• 28:38
  too.
• 28:38
  And
• 28:39
  so
• 28:39
  I
• 28:39
  think
• 28:39
  they
• 28:39
  meet
• 28:39
  in
• 28:40
  the
• 28:40
  middle.
• 28:41
  Yep.
• 28:41
  No,
• 28:42
  I
• 28:42
  completely
• 28:42
  agree.
• 28:43
  I
• 28:44
  completely
• 28:44
  agree.
• 28:45
  We're
• 28:45
  seeing
• 28:45
  on
• 28:45
  the
• 28:45
  news.
• 28:46
  I've,
• 28:46
  I
• 28:46
  see
• 28:47
  articles
• 28:48
  a
• 28:48
  couple
• 28:48
  of
• 28:48
  times
• 28:48
  a
• 28:48
  week
• 28:49
  of
• 28:49
  non
• 28:50
  zoned
• 28:51
  or
• 28:51
  regulated
• 28:53
  Campground
• 28:53
  space
• 28:54
  being
• 28:54
  closed
• 28:55
  or,
• 28:55
  they're
• 28:55
  fighting
• 28:56
  a
• 28:56
  battle
• 28:56
  with
• 28:56
  their
• 28:56
  county
• 28:57
  to
• 28:57
  stay
• 28:57
  open
• 28:57
  and
• 28:58
  things.
• 28:58
  That's
• 28:58
  probably
• 28:59
  a
• 28:59
  costly
• 28:59
  undertaking.
• 29:01
  We
• 29:01
  should
• 29:01
  avoid
• 29:02
  those
• 29:02
  where
• 29:02
  we
• 29:02
  can
• 29:03
  for
• 29:03
  sure.
• 29:04
  Got
• 29:04
  it.
• 29:04
  I
• 29:04
  got
• 29:04
  a
• 29:04
  question
• 29:05
  for
• 29:05
  me.
• 29:05
  If
• 29:05
  you
• 29:05
  had
• 29:06
  a
• 29:06
  lot
• 29:06
  of
• 29:06
  new
• 29:06
  parks
• 29:07
  and
• 29:07
  your
• 29:07
  guys'
• 29:07
  portfolio
• 29:08
  where
• 29:08
  people
• 29:09
  go
• 29:09
  in,
• 29:09
  they
• 29:10
  buy
• 29:10
  the
• 29:10
  land,
• 29:10
  which
• 29:11
  is
• 29:11
  obviously
• 29:11
  the
• 29:12
  important
• 29:12
  that
• 29:12
  it
• 29:12
  happened
• 29:13
  and
• 29:13
  get
• 29:14
  into
• 29:14
  that
• 29:14
  the
• 29:14
  bill
• 29:15
  they
• 29:15
  realize,
• 29:15
  of
• 29:15
  course,
• 29:16
  it's
• 29:16
  way
• 29:16
  more
• 29:16
  expensive
• 29:17
  than
• 29:17
  they
• 29:17
  thought
• 29:17
  it
• 29:17
  was
• 29:18
  going
• 29:18
  to
• 29:18
  be
• 29:18
  when
• 29:19
  there's
• 29:19
  a
• 29:19
  lot
• 29:19
  more
• 29:19
  that
• 29:20
  can
• 29:20
  go
• 29:20
  into
• 29:20
  it.
• 29:21
  Are
• 29:21
  you
• 29:21
  finding
• 29:22
  more
• 29:22
  new,
• 29:23
  like
• 29:24
  new
• 29:24
  owners
• 29:25
  are
• 29:25
  reaching
• 29:26
  out
• 29:26
  to
• 29:26
  you
• 29:26
  guys
• 29:26
  more
• 29:27
  than
• 29:27
  the
• 29:27
  existing
• 29:28
  ones
• 29:28
  that
• 29:28
  essentially
• 29:29
  need
• 29:29
  to
• 29:29
  revamp?
• 29:29
  Where
• 29:30
  are
• 29:30
  you
• 29:30
  seeing
• 29:31
  the
• 29:31
  industry
• 29:31
  going
• 29:32
  for
• 29:32
  using
• 29:32
  services
• 29:33
  like
• 29:33
  yours?
• 29:33
  Yeah.
• 29:34
  Yeah.
• 29:35
  That's
• 29:35
  a
• 29:35
  great
• 29:35
  question.
• 29:35
  A
• 29:36
  hundred
• 29:36
  percent
• 29:36
  it's
• 29:37
  it
• 29:37
  seems
• 29:37
  like
• 29:38
  it's
• 29:38
  the
• 29:38
  majority
• 29:38
  of
• 29:39
  it
• 29:39
  is
• 29:39
  new
• 29:39
  ownership.
• 29:40
  And
• 29:40
  the
• 29:40
  majority
• 29:41
  of
• 29:41
  that
• 29:41
  new
• 29:41
  ownership
• 29:42
  is
• 29:42
  private
• 29:42
  sector.
• 29:43
  Capital
• 29:43
  fund
• 29:43
  groups
• 29:44
  that
• 29:44
  are
• 29:44
  getting
• 29:44
  into
• 29:44
  the
• 29:44
  space
• 29:45
  about,
• 29:45
  cry
• 29:46
  three
• 29:46
  or
• 29:46
  four
• 29:46
  years
• 29:46
  ago.
• 29:47
  90%
• 29:47
  of
• 29:47
  our
• 29:48
  business
• 29:48
  was
• 29:48
  mom
• 29:49
  and
• 29:49
  pop
• 29:49
  ownership
• 29:50
  and
• 29:50
  10%
• 29:51
  was
• 29:51
  capital
• 29:51
  funds.
• 29:52
  And
• 29:52
  that
• 29:52
  is
• 29:53
  entirely
• 29:54
  flipped
• 29:54
  in
• 29:54
  the
• 29:54
  last
• 29:55
  couple
• 29:55
  of
• 29:55
  years.
• 29:56
  And
• 29:56
  it
• 29:56
  makes
• 29:56
  sense
• 29:57
  in
• 29:57
  some
• 29:57
  ways
• 29:57
  too,
• 29:58
  because
• 29:58
  for
• 29:59
  a
• 29:59
  mom
• 29:59
  and
• 29:59
  pop
• 29:59
  to
• 30:00
  bring
• 30:00
  in
• 30:00
  a
• 30:00
  consultant
• 30:01
  or
• 30:01
  a
• 30:01
  management
• 30:01
  company,
• 30:02
  we
• 30:02
  can
• 30:02
  help
• 30:02
  with
• 30:02
  certain
• 30:02
  things.
• 30:03
  But,
• 30:03
  oftentimes
• 30:04
  the
• 30:04
  property
• 30:05
  that
• 30:05
  they're
• 30:05
  running
• 30:05
  might
• 30:05
  not
• 30:05
  be
• 30:06
  able
• 30:06
  to
• 30:06
  support,
• 30:06
  management
• 30:07
  fees.
• 30:07
  But
• 30:07
  then
• 30:08
  also
• 30:08
  these
• 30:08
  investment
• 30:09
  groups
• 30:09
  have
• 30:10
  the
• 30:10
  need
• 30:10
  to
• 30:11
  be
• 30:11
  able
• 30:12
  to
• 30:12
  partner
• 30:12
  with
• 30:13
  a
• 30:13
  consultant
• 30:13
  for
• 30:14
  further.
• 30:15
  Sometimes
• 30:15
  it's
• 30:15
  written
• 30:16
  in
• 30:16
  their
• 30:16
  bylaws
• 30:16
  of
• 30:17
  their
• 30:17
  funds
• 30:17
  to
• 30:17
  be
• 30:18
  able
• 30:18
  to
• 30:18
  have
• 30:19
  to
• 30:19
  partner
• 30:19
  with
• 30:19
  a
• 30:19
  management
• 30:20
  company.
• 30:20
  And,
• 30:20
  really
• 30:21
  we
• 30:21
  view
• 30:21
  ourselves
• 30:22
  as.
• 30:23
  And
• 30:23
  the
• 30:23
  strategic
• 30:24
  partners
• 30:24
  more
• 30:25
  than
• 30:25
  a
• 30:25
  service
• 30:25
  provider
• 30:26
  our
• 30:26
  success,
• 30:27
  their
• 30:27
  success
• 30:27
  is
• 30:27
  our
• 30:27
  success.
• 30:28
  And
• 30:28
  so
• 30:28
  we
• 30:29
  focus
• 30:29
  on
• 30:29
  them
• 30:29
  first
• 30:30
  and
• 30:30
  foremost.
• 30:30
  So
• 30:31
  I
• 30:31
  think
• 30:32
  that,
• 30:32
  the
• 30:32
  new
• 30:32
  development,
• 30:33
  Greenfield
• 30:33
  development
• 30:33
  that
• 30:33
  we're
• 30:34
  seeing
• 30:34
  is
• 30:34
  I
• 30:34
  think
• 30:35
  in
• 30:35
  the
• 30:35
  last
• 30:35
  year
• 30:35
  we've
• 30:35
  opened
• 30:36
  six
• 30:36
  or
• 30:36
  seven
• 30:36
  brand
• 30:37
  new
• 30:37
  shovel
• 30:38
  properties
• 30:39
  from
• 30:39
  ground
• 30:39
  up
• 30:39
  which
• 30:40
  has
• 30:40
  been
• 30:40
  very
• 30:40
  interesting.
• 30:40
  We've
• 30:40
  got
• 30:41
  a
• 30:41
  few
• 30:41
  more
• 30:41
  in
• 30:41
  the
• 30:41
  queue.
• 30:41
  And
• 30:42
  so
• 30:42
  I
• 30:42
  think
• 30:43
  what's
• 30:43
  going
• 30:43
  to
• 30:43
  be
• 30:43
  interesting.
• 30:44
  Moving
• 30:44
  forward
• 30:45
  is
• 30:45
  seeing
• 30:45
  the
• 30:46
  turn
• 30:46
  of
• 30:46
  our
• 30:47
  industry
• 30:48
  move
• 30:48
  from
• 30:48
  being
• 30:49
  so
• 30:49
  mom
• 30:49
  and
• 30:49
  pop
• 30:50
  prevalent,
• 30:50
  which
• 30:51
  there,
• 30:51
  there's
• 30:51
  thousands
• 30:52
  of
• 30:52
  campgrounds
• 30:52
  in
• 30:52
  there.
• 30:52
  There
• 30:53
  will
• 30:53
  always
• 30:53
  be
• 30:53
  a
• 30:54
  majority
• 30:54
  of
• 30:54
  mom
• 30:55
  and
• 30:55
  pop,
• 30:55
  but
• 30:55
  the
• 30:55
  large,
• 30:56
  the
• 30:56
  larger
• 30:57
  properties
• 30:57
  that
• 30:57
  have
• 30:58
  higher
• 30:58
  our
• 30:58
  top
• 30:59
  line
• 30:59
  revenue,
• 30:59
  I
• 30:59
  think
• 31:00
  continue
• 31:01
  to
• 31:01
  move
• 31:01
  towards
• 31:02
  capital
• 31:02
  fund
• 31:02
  groups.
• 31:04
  And
• 31:04
  I
• 31:04
  think
• 31:04
  what
• 31:05
  we're
• 31:05
  really
• 31:05
  advocating
• 31:06
  to,
• 31:06
  to
• 31:06
  our
• 31:06
  clients
• 31:07
  that,
• 31:07
  and
• 31:07
  we
• 31:07
  work
• 31:08
  with
• 31:08
  amazing
• 31:08
  clients,
• 31:10
  we're
• 31:10
  advocating.
• 31:12
  Okay,
• 31:12
  make
• 31:13
  sure
• 31:13
  that
• 31:13
  they
• 31:14
  hold
• 31:14
  these
• 31:15
  properties
• 31:15
  and
• 31:16
  run
• 31:16
  these
• 31:17
  in
• 31:17
  a
• 31:17
  way
• 31:17
  that
• 31:18
  makes
• 31:18
  sense
• 31:18
  for
• 31:19
  future
• 31:19
  growth,
• 31:20
  isn't
• 31:21
  it.
• 31:21
  And
• 31:22
  provides
• 31:22
  unique
• 31:23
  experiences
• 31:23
  at
• 31:24
  each
• 31:24
  location
• 31:24
  that
• 31:24
  we
• 31:25
  don't
• 31:25
  turn
• 31:25
  them
• 31:25
  into,
• 31:26
  chains
• 31:26
  of
• 31:27
  Fairfield.
• 31:28
  It
• 31:29
  could
• 31:29
  be,
• 31:29
  yeah,
• 31:29
  exactly.
• 31:30
  Because
• 31:31
  our
• 31:31
  industry
• 31:31
  with
• 31:33
  unique
• 31:34
  locations,
• 31:34
  unique
• 31:35
  experiences,
• 31:36
  like
• 31:36
  just
• 31:37
  the
• 31:37
  uniqueness
• 31:38
  and
• 31:38
  difference
• 31:38
  of
• 31:39
  each
• 31:39
  location.
• 31:40
  And
• 31:41
  I'd
• 31:41
  hate
• 31:41
  for
• 31:41
  us
• 31:41
  to
• 31:41
  lose
• 31:42
  that
• 31:42
  industry.
• 31:43
  So
• 31:43
  far
• 31:43
  it
• 31:43
  seems
• 31:43
  like
• 31:44
  everybody's
• 31:44
  getting
• 31:45
  into
• 31:45
  the
• 31:45
  space.
• 31:45
  They
• 31:45
  know
• 31:46
  that's
• 31:46
  why
• 31:46
  it's
• 31:46
  been
• 31:46
  so
• 31:46
  successful.
• 31:47
  So
• 31:47
  let's
• 31:47
  just
• 31:48
  keep
• 31:48
  leaning
• 31:48
  into
• 31:48
  that.
• 31:50
  It's
• 31:50
  the
• 31:50
  fundamental
• 31:51
  of
• 31:51
  the
• 31:51
  industry
• 31:52
  is,
• 31:52
  we
• 31:52
  w
• 31:53
  folks
• 31:53
  are
• 31:53
  moving
• 31:54
  around
• 31:54
  between
• 31:54
  all
• 31:54
  of
• 31:55
  these
• 31:55
  parks.
• 31:55
  We
• 31:55
  want
• 31:55
  to
• 31:55
  offer
• 31:56
  them
• 31:56
  different
• 31:56
  experiences
• 31:57
  and
• 31:57
  all
• 31:58
  of
• 31:58
  those
• 31:58
  places
• 31:59
  to
• 31:59
  get
• 31:59
  them
• 31:59
  in
• 32:00
  the
• 32:00
  door
• 32:00
  in
• 32:00
  multiple
• 32:01
  properties.
• 32:02
  Yeah.
• 32:02
  Season.
• 32:03
  And
• 32:03
  so
• 32:03
  I
• 32:03
  completely
• 32:04
  agree
• 32:04
  with
• 32:04
  Scott.
• 32:05
  I'm
• 32:05
  seeing
• 32:05
  the
• 32:05
  same
• 32:06
  thing
• 32:06
  here.
• 32:06
  I
• 32:07
  have
• 32:07
  several
• 32:08
  the
• 32:08
  last
• 32:08
  several
• 32:09
  members
• 32:09
  that
• 32:09
  have
• 32:10
  joined
• 32:10
  the
• 32:10
  association
• 32:11
  in
• 32:11
  my
• 32:11
  province
• 32:12
  have
• 32:12
  all
• 32:12
  been
• 32:13
  investment
• 32:13
  group
• 32:13
  members
• 32:14
  who
• 32:14
  purchased
• 32:15
  campgrounds
• 32:16
  in
• 32:16
  the
• 32:16
  last
• 32:16
  year
• 32:17
  and
• 32:17
  are
• 32:17
  looking
• 32:18
  both
• 32:18
  for
• 32:18
  management
• 32:20
  staff
• 32:20
  or
• 32:20
  services
• 32:21
  to
• 32:21
  help
• 32:21
  them
• 32:21
  with
• 32:22
  operations
• 32:23
  and
• 32:23
  also
• 32:24
  happy
• 32:24
  to
• 32:24
  network
• 32:24
  with
• 32:24
  other
• 32:25
  operators.
• 32:25
  I
• 32:26
  think,
• 32:26
  they're
• 32:26
  happy
• 32:26
  to
• 32:26
  keep
• 32:27
  their
• 32:28
  eyes
• 32:28
  open
• 32:29
  for
• 32:29
  any
• 32:29
  more
• 32:29
  potential
• 32:30
  deals
• 32:30
  and
• 32:30
  things
• 32:31
  like
• 32:31
  that.
• 32:31
  So
• 32:32
  I
• 32:32
  completely
• 32:32
  agree.
• 32:33
  I'm
• 32:33
  seeing
• 32:33
  that
• 32:33
  same
• 32:34
  shift
• 32:34
  up
• 32:34
  here
• 32:35
  and
• 32:35
  I
• 32:35
  don't
• 32:36
  anticipate
• 32:36
  that
• 32:36
  really
• 32:37
  slowing
• 32:37
  down
• 32:37
  as
• 32:37
  long
• 32:38
  as
• 32:38
  the
• 32:38
  industry's
• 32:38
  performance.
• 32:40
  Yeah.
• 32:41
  And
• 32:41
  what
• 32:41
  things
• 32:41
  do
• 32:41
  you
• 32:41
  mean
• 32:41
  with
• 32:41
  the
• 32:41
  minute?
• 32:42
  Scott
• 32:42
  mentioned
• 32:42
  this
• 32:42
  and
• 32:43
  it's
• 32:43
  so
• 32:43
  important
• 32:43
  as
• 32:43
  far
• 32:44
  as
• 32:44
  finding
• 32:45
  some
• 32:45
  of
• 32:45
  that
• 32:45
  niche,
• 32:46
  or
• 32:46
  at
• 32:46
  least
• 32:46
  just
• 32:47
  expanding
• 32:47
  on
• 32:47
  what
• 32:48
  your
• 32:48
  work
• 32:48
  does
• 32:48
  and
• 32:49
  what
• 32:49
  it
• 32:49
  does
• 32:50
  and
• 32:50
  just
• 32:51
  playing
• 32:51
  it.
• 32:51
  We
• 32:51
  went
• 32:51
  to
• 32:51
  the
• 32:52
  extent
• 32:52
  where
• 32:53
  we
• 32:53
  were
• 32:53
  having
• 32:53
  such
• 32:53
  a
• 32:53
  hard
• 32:54
  time
• 32:54
  getting
• 32:55
  quality
• 32:56
  photos
• 32:56
  and
• 32:56
  listings
• 32:57
  to
• 32:57
  be
• 32:57
  able
• 32:57
  to,
• 32:58
  basically
• 32:58
  showcase,
• 32:59
  Park's
• 33:00
  properties,
• 33:00
  online
• 33:02
  coffee
• 33:03
  book,
• 33:03
  mine
• 33:04
  we're
• 33:05
  planning
• 33:05
  on
• 33:05
  doing
• 33:05
  photo
• 33:05
  shoots
• 33:06
  for
• 33:06
  them
• 33:07
  saying,
• 33:07
  look,
• 33:07
  you
• 33:07
  desperately
• 33:08
  need
• 33:09
  to
• 33:09
  showcase
• 33:09
  the
• 33:10
  good
• 33:10
  things
• 33:10
  that
• 33:11
  your
• 33:11
  property
• 33:11
  and
• 33:12
  how
• 33:12
  you
• 33:13
  talk
• 33:13
  about
• 33:14
  style
• 33:14
  and
• 33:14
  how
• 33:14
  you
• 33:15
  display
• 33:16
  different
• 33:16
  site
• 33:17
  types.
• 33:17
  It,
• 33:17
  and
• 33:18
  I
• 33:18
  don't
• 33:18
  necessarily
• 33:19
  need
• 33:19
  a
• 33:19
  photo
• 33:19
  every
• 33:20
  single
• 33:20
  day
• 33:20
  because
• 33:21
  some
• 33:21
  of
• 33:21
  the
• 33:21
  sites
• 33:21
  don't
• 33:21
  look
• 33:22
  great.
• 33:23
  Some
• 33:23
  of
• 33:23
  them
• 33:23
  don't
• 33:23
  work
• 33:25
  to
• 33:25
  do
• 33:25
  for
• 33:25
  sure.
• 33:26
  Just
• 33:26
  getting
• 33:26
  something
• 33:26
  out
• 33:27
  there
• 33:27
  is
• 33:27
  getting.
• 33:28
  Bookings
• 33:29
  let's
• 33:29
  think
• 33:29
  again,
• 33:29
  that's
• 33:30
  just
• 33:30
  the
• 33:30
  overall
• 33:31
  shift
• 33:31
  that
• 33:31
  the
• 33:32
  camper
• 33:33
  or
• 33:33
  should
• 33:34
  exp,
• 33:34
  right?
• 33:35
  You
• 33:35
  were
• 33:35
  able
• 33:35
  to
• 33:36
  not
• 33:36
  have
• 33:36
  that
• 33:36
  much
• 33:37
  photos
• 33:37
  and
• 33:37
  display
• 33:38
  of
• 33:38
  your
• 33:38
  park
• 33:38
  in,
• 33:39
  in,
• 33:39
  in
• 33:39
  recent
• 33:40
  years,
• 33:40
  but
• 33:40
  that's
• 33:40
  really
• 33:41
  the
• 33:41
  expectation
• 33:42
  now,
• 33:42
  especially
• 33:42
  if
• 33:42
  you
• 33:42
  want
• 33:42
  to
• 33:42
  stay
• 33:43
  for
• 33:43
  keep
• 33:43
  attracting,
• 33:45
  because
• 33:45
  the
• 33:45
  goal
• 33:46
  is
• 33:46
  to
• 33:46
  attract
• 33:46
  new
• 33:46
  customers,
• 33:47
  as
• 33:47
  well
• 33:47
  as
• 33:47
  get
• 33:47
  the
• 33:47
  other
• 33:47
  ones
• 33:48
  back,
• 33:48
  because
• 33:49
  that's
• 33:49
  going
• 33:50
  to
• 33:50
  drive
• 33:50
  the
• 33:50
  price
• 33:50
  point
• 33:51
  of
• 33:51
  each,
• 33:51
  each
• 33:51
  night,
• 33:52
  never
• 33:52
  want
• 33:52
  to
• 33:52
  stop
• 33:53
  getting
• 33:53
  new
• 33:53
  customers.
• 33:53
  But
• 33:54
  the
• 33:54
  best
• 33:54
  way
• 33:55
  to
• 33:55
  do
• 33:55
  that
• 33:55
  in
• 33:55
  some
• 33:55
  cases
• 33:56
  is
• 33:56
  to
• 33:56
  let
• 33:56
  them
• 33:56
  know
• 33:56
  what
• 33:57
  you
• 33:57
  have
• 33:57
  in
• 33:57
  and
• 33:59
  that
• 33:59
  in
• 33:59
  some
• 33:59
  capacity
• 34:00
  is
• 34:00
  so
• 34:00
  important.
• 34:01
  And
• 34:01
  we've
• 34:01
  seen
• 34:02
  a
• 34:02
  good
• 34:02
  shift
• 34:02
  in
• 34:02
  that
• 34:03
  where,
• 34:03
  even
• 34:03
  three
• 34:04
  years
• 34:04
  ago,
• 34:04
  we'd
• 34:04
  look
• 34:04
  at,
• 34:05
  it
• 34:05
  seems
• 34:05
  like
• 34:05
  one
• 34:05
  of
• 34:05
  the
• 34:05
  10
• 34:06
  parks
• 34:06
  actually
• 34:07
  had
• 34:07
  a
• 34:07
  good
• 34:07
  representation
• 34:09
  of
• 34:09
  what
• 34:09
  was
• 34:10
  at
• 34:10
  their
• 34:10
  park
• 34:10
  for,
• 34:11
  with,
• 34:11
  from
• 34:11
  a
• 34:11
  photo
• 34:11
  standpoint
• 34:13
  and
• 34:13
  just
• 34:13
  an
• 34:13
  explanation.
• 34:14
  And
• 34:14
  even.
• 34:14
  Giving
• 34:15
  a
• 34:15
  general
• 34:15
  creative
• 34:16
  overview
• 34:17
  of
• 34:17
  your
• 34:17
  park,
• 34:17
  like
• 34:17
  what
• 34:18
  to
• 34:18
  expect
• 34:18
  when
• 34:18
  you
• 34:18
  come
• 34:19
  here.
• 34:19
  We've
• 34:19
  been
• 34:19
  trying
• 34:20
  to,
• 34:20
  you,
• 34:20
  we,
• 34:20
  you
• 34:20
  don't
• 34:21
  wanna
• 34:21
  write
• 34:21
  it
• 34:21
  for
• 34:21
  you
• 34:21
  cause
• 34:21
  it's
• 34:22
  dark,
• 34:22
  but
• 34:23
  then
• 34:23
  it
• 34:23
  gives
• 34:24
  some
• 34:24
  sort
• 34:24
  of
• 34:24
  snack.
• 34:26
  Hi,
• 34:26
  should
• 34:27
  I
• 34:27
  come
• 34:27
  there?
• 34:27
  What
• 34:27
  is
• 34:28
  it
• 34:28
  about
• 34:29
  that
• 34:29
  part?
• 34:30
  That's
• 34:30
  good
• 34:30
  to
• 34:30
  speak
• 34:31
  to
• 34:31
  certain
• 34:31
  customers.
• 34:32
  We're
• 34:32
  seeing
• 34:32
  a
• 34:32
  good
• 34:33
  switch
• 34:33
  in
• 34:33
  that
• 34:33
  too,
• 34:33
  but
• 34:34
  it's
• 34:34
  still
• 34:34
  the
• 34:35
  Camping
• 34:35
  industry
• 34:35
  overall,
• 34:36
  still
• 34:36
  has
• 34:36
  a
• 34:36
  long
• 34:36
  way
• 34:36
  to
• 34:37
  go.
• 34:37
  There's
• 34:37
  still
• 34:37
  a
• 34:37
  lot
• 34:37
  of
• 34:37
  parts
• 34:38
  that
• 34:38
  don't
• 34:38
  have
• 34:38
  that.
• 34:40
  And
• 34:40
  that's
• 34:40
  why
• 34:40
  so
• 34:41
  many
• 34:41
  new
• 34:41
  Campground
• 34:42
  operators
• 34:43
  feel
• 34:43
  there's
• 34:43
  such
• 34:43
  a
• 34:43
  good
• 34:44
  opportunity
• 34:44
  because
• 34:45
  they're
• 34:45
  like,
• 34:45
  geez,
• 34:46
  there
• 34:46
  might
• 34:46
  be
• 34:46
  eight
• 34:46
  parks
• 34:47
  in
• 34:47
  the
• 34:47
  area.
• 34:48
  One
• 34:48
  of
• 34:48
  them's
• 34:48
  online
• 34:49
  or
• 34:49
  two
• 34:49
  of
• 34:49
  them
• 34:50
  online.
• 34:50
  And
• 34:50
  I
• 34:50
  can
• 34:50
  immediately
• 34:51
  act
• 34:52
  by
• 34:52
  putting
• 34:53
  in
• 34:53
  just
• 34:53
  doing
• 34:53
  some
• 34:53
  basic
• 34:54
  things
• 34:55
  to
• 34:55
  show
• 34:55
  still
• 34:56
  people
• 34:56
  that
• 34:56
  I
• 34:56
  that
• 34:57
  we
• 34:57
  exist.
• 34:58
  So
• 34:58
  we're
• 34:58
  seeing,
• 34:59
  yeah,
• 34:59
  it's
• 34:59
  incredible.
• 35:00
  How
• 35:00
  many
• 35:00
  new
• 35:00
  park
• 35:00
  owners
• 35:03
  I'm
• 35:03
  going
• 35:03
  to
• 35:03
  see?
• 35:03
  I
• 35:03
  would
• 35:03
  say
• 35:04
  maybe
• 35:05
  out
• 35:05
  of
• 35:05
  the
• 35:06
  700
• 35:06
  or
• 35:06
  so
• 35:07
  parks
• 35:07
  over
• 35:07
  the
• 35:07
  last
• 35:08
  year
• 35:08
  that
• 35:08
  we've
• 35:08
  onboarded.
• 35:09
  I
• 35:09
  would
• 35:09
  say
• 35:10
  maybe
• 35:10
  150
• 35:11
  have
• 35:11
  been
• 35:12
  new
• 35:12
  parks.
• 35:12
  So
• 35:12
  it's
• 35:13
  crazy.
• 35:13
  It's
• 35:13
  crazy.
• 35:14
  How
• 35:14
  many,
• 35:14
  new
• 35:14
  parks
• 35:14
  that,
• 35:15
  that
• 35:15
  we're
• 35:15
  seeing
• 35:16
  getting
• 35:16
  opened
• 35:16
  right
• 35:16
  now?
• 35:18
  I
• 35:18
  just
• 35:18
  want
• 35:18
  to
• 35:18
  highlight
• 35:19
  this
• 35:20
  what
• 35:20
  he's
• 35:20
  talking
• 35:21
  about
• 35:21
  specifically
• 35:22
  and
• 35:22
  how
• 35:23
  much
• 35:23
  of
• 35:24
  an
• 35:24
  added
• 35:24
  benefit
• 35:25
  this
• 35:26
  stuff
• 35:26
  is
• 35:27
  when
• 35:27
  you
• 35:27
  partner
• 35:28
  with
• 35:28
  somebody
• 35:28
  like
• 35:28
  Camping.
• 35:29
  I
• 35:29
  think
• 35:30
  it's
• 35:30
  important
• 35:30
  to
• 35:31
  note
• 35:31
  that
• 35:31
  this
• 35:31
  is
• 35:32
  so
• 35:32
  much
• 35:32
  more
• 35:32
  than
• 35:32
  just
• 35:33
  reservation
• 35:33
  software
• 35:34
  Kemp.
• 35:34
  Squat
• 35:35
  offers
• 35:35
  you
• 35:36
  a
• 35:36
  full
• 35:36
  team
• 35:37
  of
• 35:37
  pros
• 35:38
  who
• 35:38
  are
• 35:38
  going
• 35:38
  to
• 35:39
  give
• 35:40
  you
• 35:40
  tons
• 35:40
  of
• 35:40
  advice
• 35:41
  and
• 35:41
  resources
• 35:42
  and
• 35:42
  perspective
• 35:43
  that
• 35:43
  maybe,
• 35:44
  I
• 35:44
  was
• 35:44
  a
• 35:44
  campground
• 35:44
  owner
• 35:45
  for
• 35:45
  a
• 35:45
  long
• 35:45
  time.
• 35:45
  It's
• 35:46
  easy
• 35:46
  to
• 35:46
  get
• 35:47
  tunnel
• 35:47
  vision
• 35:48
  when
• 35:49
  you're
• 35:49
  in
• 35:49
  the
• 35:49
  midst
• 35:49
  of
• 35:49
  a
• 35:50
  season
• 35:50
  where
• 35:50
  your
• 35:50
  sites
• 35:51
  are
• 35:51
  full
• 35:51
  and
• 35:51
  you're
• 35:52
  busy
• 35:52
  every
• 35:52
  day.
• 35:52
  And
• 35:53
  so
• 35:53
  you're
• 35:53
  not
• 35:53
  technically
• 35:54
  thinking
• 35:54
  about
• 35:55
  like,
• 35:55
  how
• 35:55
  can
• 35:55
  I
• 35:56
  harness
• 35:56
  other
• 35:56
  sections
• 35:57
  of
• 35:57
  the
• 35:57
  market
• 35:57
  and
• 35:58
  how
• 35:58
  can
• 35:58
  I
• 35:58
  access
• 35:59
  a
• 35:59
  different
• 36:00
  demographic
• 36:00
  and
• 36:01
  all
• 36:01
  of
• 36:01
  those
• 36:01
  things
• 36:01
  at
• 36:02
  that
• 36:02
  time,
• 36:02
  that
• 36:03
  partnership
• 36:03
  with.
• 36:05
  Somebody
• 36:05
  like
• 36:05
  campfire
• 36:06
  is
• 36:06
  a,
• 36:06
  bring
• 36:06
  so
• 36:07
  much
• 36:07
  more
• 36:07
  to
• 36:07
  the
• 36:08
  table
• 36:08
  than
• 36:08
  just
• 36:09
  software.
• 36:12
  I
• 36:12
  brought
• 36:12
  your
• 36:12
  20
• 36:12
  bucks
• 36:12
  in
• 36:13
  the
• 36:13
  mail
• 36:16
  to
• 36:16
  touch
• 36:16
  on
• 36:16
  what
• 36:16
  Casey
• 36:17
  was
• 36:17
  saying
• 36:17
  too
• 36:17
  about
• 36:17
  images,
• 36:18
  not
• 36:19
  just
• 36:19
  on
• 36:19
  the
• 36:19
  reservation
• 36:20
  system
• 36:20
  side,
• 36:21
  but
• 36:21
  just
• 36:21
  images
• 36:21
  across
• 36:22
  all
• 36:22
  of
• 36:22
  your
• 36:22
  branding
• 36:23
  across
• 36:23
  your
• 36:23
  website,
• 36:23
  across
• 36:24
  your
• 36:24
  social
• 36:24
  media
• 36:24
  and
• 36:24
  stuff
• 36:25
  like
• 36:25
  that.
• 36:25
  We
• 36:25
  encounter
• 36:25
  a
• 36:26
  lot
• 36:26
  of
• 36:26
  clients.
• 36:26
  It's
• 36:26
  getting
• 36:27
  better.
• 36:27
  I
• 36:27
  find
• 36:28
  that
• 36:28
  the
• 36:29
  group
• 36:29
  or
• 36:29
  the
• 36:30
  properties
• 36:30
  that
• 36:30
  are
• 36:30
  working
• 36:31
  with
• 36:31
  management
• 36:31
  groups
• 36:31
  tend
• 36:32
  to
• 36:32
  have
• 36:32
  nicer
• 36:33
  pictures,
• 36:33
  more
• 36:33
  pictures,
• 36:34
  that
• 36:34
  sort
• 36:34
  of
• 36:34
  thing.
• 36:35
  We
• 36:35
  still
• 36:35
  have
• 36:35
  I
• 36:36
  joke
• 36:36
  and
• 36:36
  people
• 36:36
  laugh,
• 36:36
  but
• 36:37
  we
• 36:37
  still
• 36:37
  have
• 36:37
  clients
• 36:37
  where,
• 36:38
  we've
• 36:38
  got
• 36:38
  pictures
• 36:38
  that
• 36:38
  we
• 36:38
  have
• 36:38
  to
• 36:39
  pull
• 36:39
  from
• 36:39
  that
• 36:39
  are
• 36:39
  like,
• 36:40
  from
• 36:40
  a
• 36:40
  flip
• 36:40
  phone
• 36:40
  like
• 36:41
  Motorola,
• 36:41
  razor
• 36:41
  images
• 36:42
  and,
• 36:42
  the
• 36:42
  thing.
• 36:43
  I
• 36:44
  just
• 36:44
  don't
• 36:45
  people
• 36:45
  see
• 36:45
  a
• 36:45
  price
• 36:45
  tag
• 36:46
  on
• 36:46
  what
• 36:46
  it
• 36:46
  costs
• 36:46
  to
• 36:46
  have
• 36:47
  someone
• 36:47
  come
• 36:47
  into
• 36:47
  your
• 36:47
  park
• 36:47
  and
• 36:48
  take
• 36:48
  pictures.
• 36:48
  And
• 36:48
  it's
• 36:49
  really
• 36:49
  not
• 36:49
  difficult
• 36:49
  if
• 36:49
  you
• 36:50
  have
• 36:50
  a
• 36:50
  nice
• 36:50
  smartphone
• 36:51
  to
• 36:51
  take
• 36:52
  some
• 36:52
  of
• 36:52
  your
• 36:52
  own
• 36:52
  pictures,
• 36:52
  but
• 36:53
  the
• 36:53
  negative
• 36:53
  reviews
• 36:54
  and
• 36:54
  the
• 36:54
  people
• 36:54
  that
• 36:54
  don't
• 36:54
  want
• 36:54
  to
• 36:54
  come
• 36:55
  back
• 36:55
  and
• 36:55
  the
• 36:55
  people
• 36:55
  that
• 36:55
  don't
• 36:56
  even
• 36:56
  want
• 36:56
  to
• 36:56
  give
• 36:56
  you
• 36:56
  a
• 36:56
  first
• 36:57
  chance.
• 36:57
  It's
• 36:57
  because
• 36:58
  you're
• 36:58
  setting
• 36:58
  an
• 36:58
  expectation
• 36:59
  with
• 36:59
  the
• 36:59
  images
• 36:59
  that
• 37:00
  they're
• 37:00
  seeing
• 37:00
  and
• 37:00
  if
• 37:00
  your
• 37:00
  images
• 37:01
  stick,
• 37:01
  there's
• 37:01
  not
• 37:01
  anything
• 37:02
  for
• 37:02
  them
• 37:02
  to
• 37:02
  look
• 37:02
  forward
• 37:03
  to.
• 37:03
  There's
• 37:03
  no,
• 37:03
  there's
• 37:04
  nothing
• 37:04
  enticing
• 37:04
  them
• 37:04
  to
• 37:04
  book.
• 37:05
  And
• 37:05
  then
• 37:05
  the
• 37:05
  negative
• 37:05
  reviews
• 37:06
  that
• 37:06
  you
• 37:06
  see
• 37:06
  you
• 37:07
  want
• 37:07
  to
• 37:07
  have
• 37:07
  nice
• 37:07
  pictures,
• 37:08
  but
• 37:08
  you
• 37:08
  also
• 37:08
  want
• 37:08
  to
• 37:08
  have
• 37:08
  an
• 37:08
  honest
• 37:09
  depiction.
• 37:09
  If
• 37:09
  you
• 37:09
  only
• 37:10
  have
• 37:10
  one
• 37:10
  nice
• 37:11
  bath
• 37:11
  house
• 37:11
  and
• 37:11
  everything
• 37:12
  else
• 37:12
  is
• 37:12
  junk,
• 37:13
  and
• 37:13
  you
• 37:13
  only
• 37:14
  have
• 37:14
  a
• 37:14
  few
• 37:14
  nice
• 37:14
  Heights,
• 37:15
  you
• 37:15
  need
• 37:15
  to
• 37:15
  find
• 37:16
  a
• 37:16
  nice
• 37:16
  way
• 37:16
  to
• 37:16
  display
• 37:17
  the
• 37:18
  reality
• 37:18
  of
• 37:18
  your
• 37:18
  part
• 37:18
  because
• 37:19
  the
• 37:19
  negative
• 37:19
  reviews
• 37:19
  you
• 37:19
  get
• 37:20
  are
• 37:20
  because
• 37:21
  of
• 37:21
  unmet
• 37:21
  expectations
• 37:22
  that
• 37:22
  you've
• 37:23
  already
• 37:23
  set
• 37:23
  before
• 37:23
  they
• 37:24
  set
• 37:24
  foot
• 37:24
  on
• 37:24
  your
• 37:24
  property.
• 37:25
  Yeah,
• 37:26
  maybe
• 37:26
  to
• 37:26
  your
• 37:26
  point,
• 37:27
  Angela
• 37:27
  with
• 37:27
  that
• 37:27
  too.
• 37:28
  Cause
• 37:28
  you.
• 37:30
  You
• 37:30
  guys
• 37:30
  are
• 37:31
  right
• 37:31
  on
• 37:31
  the
• 37:31
  frontline
• 37:31
  with
• 37:32
  marketing
• 37:33
  and
• 37:33
  making
• 37:34
  sure
• 37:34
  that
• 37:34
  we've
• 37:34
  got
• 37:34
  great
• 37:35
  content.
• 37:35
  And
• 37:36
  I
• 37:36
  think
• 37:36
  that
• 37:37
  it's
• 37:37
  not
• 37:37
  as
• 37:37
  complicated
• 37:38
  or
• 37:38
  as
• 37:38
  expensive
• 37:39
  as
• 37:40
  it
• 37:40
  sounds
• 37:41
  like
• 37:41
  it
• 37:41
  could
• 37:41
  be
• 37:41
  to
• 37:41
  get
• 37:42
  those
• 37:42
  great
• 37:42
  images.
• 37:43
  We've,
• 37:44
  I'll
• 37:44
  admit
• 37:45
  up
• 37:45
  until
• 37:45
  a
• 37:45
  couple
• 37:45
  of
• 37:45
  years
• 37:45
  ago.
• 37:46
  We
• 37:46
  were
• 37:46
  some
• 37:46
  of
• 37:46
  the
• 37:46
  worst
• 37:47
  offenders
• 37:47
  with
• 37:47
  that.
• 37:47
  Find
• 37:48
  some
• 37:48
  great
• 37:48
  stock
• 37:48
  images
• 37:49
  that
• 37:49
  look
• 37:49
  like
• 37:49
  your
• 37:49
  park
• 37:50
  and
• 37:50
  call
• 37:51
  it
• 37:51
  a
• 37:51
  day.
• 37:51
  But
• 37:51
  we've
• 37:52
  really
• 37:52
  pivoted
• 37:52
  that
• 37:53
  in
• 37:53
  the
• 37:53
  last
• 37:53
  year.
• 37:54
  And
• 37:54
  we've
• 37:54
  focused
• 37:55
  first
• 37:55
  on
• 37:56
  of.
• 37:56
  And
• 37:56
  what
• 37:56
  the
• 37:56
  experience
• 37:57
  is
• 37:57
  that
• 37:57
  we're
• 37:58
  trying
• 37:58
  to
• 37:58
  set
• 37:58
  at
• 37:58
  the
• 37:58
  property,
• 37:59
  why
• 37:59
  we
• 37:59
  want,
• 37:59
  how
• 38:00
  we
• 38:00
  want
• 38:00
  guests
• 38:00
  to
• 38:01
  experience
• 38:01
  our
• 38:01
  locations
• 38:02
  and
• 38:02
  how
• 38:02
  we
• 38:03
  want
• 38:03
  them
• 38:03
  to
• 38:03
  feel
• 38:04
  designing
• 38:04
  the
• 38:04
  on-sites
• 38:05
  spaces
• 38:06
  and
• 38:06
  physical
• 38:07
  structures
• 38:07
  and
• 38:07
  amenities
• 38:08
  around
• 38:08
  that.
• 38:08
  But
• 38:08
  then
• 38:09
  also
• 38:09
  partnering
• 38:09
  with
• 38:09
  influencers
• 38:10
  and
• 38:11
  there's
• 38:11
  ways
• 38:11
  that
• 38:11
  you
• 38:12
  can
• 38:12
  have
• 38:12
  someone
• 38:12
  come
• 38:13
  and
• 38:13
  stay
• 38:13
  at
• 38:13
  your
• 38:13
  property
• 38:13
  for
• 38:14
  a
• 38:14
  week
• 38:15
  and
• 38:15
  your
• 38:15
  shoulder
• 38:16
  season
• 38:16
  for
• 38:17
  free,
• 38:17
  and
• 38:17
  they'll
• 38:17
  exchange,
• 38:18
  10
• 38:19
  or
• 38:19
  20
• 38:19
  images
• 38:19
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• 38:20
  are
• 38:20
  high
• 38:20
  quality
• 38:20
  professional
• 38:21
  images
• 38:21
  that
• 38:21
  you
• 38:22
  can
• 38:22
  use
• 38:22
  for
• 38:22
  your
• 38:23
  social
• 38:23
  media
• 38:23
  channels.
• 38:24
  But
• 38:24
  even
• 38:24
  if
• 38:24
  you
• 38:24
  do
• 38:25
  go
• 38:25
  for
• 38:25
  professional
• 38:25
  shoot,
• 38:26
  which
• 38:26
  you
• 38:26
  should.
• 38:26
  Maybe
• 38:26
  a
• 38:26
  couple
• 38:27
  thousand
• 38:27
  dollars,
• 38:27
  but
• 38:28
  the,
• 38:28
  we
• 38:29
  as
• 38:29
  an
• 38:29
  industry,
• 38:30
  we
• 38:30
  can
• 38:30
  really
• 38:31
  focus
• 38:31
  on
• 38:32
  reinventing
• 38:32
  how
• 38:33
  we're
• 38:33
  approaching
• 38:33
  marketing
• 38:34
  from
• 38:34
  just,
• 38:35
  focusing
• 38:35
  on
• 38:35
  Google
• 38:36
  ads
• 38:36
  and
• 38:36
  Facebook
• 38:37
  ads,
• 38:37
  which
• 38:37
  you
• 38:37
  need
• 38:37
  to
• 38:37
  be
• 38:38
  there,
• 38:38
  but
• 38:38
  really
• 38:40
  focusing
• 38:40
  on
• 38:40
  content
• 38:41
  generation
• 38:41
  and
• 38:42
  not
• 38:42
  afraid
• 38:42
  to
• 38:42
  spend
• 38:42
  money
• 38:43
  on
• 38:43
  that.
• 38:43
  We'll
• 38:43
  all
• 38:44
  benefit
• 38:44
  as
• 38:45
  the
• 38:45
  industry
• 38:45
  elevates
• 38:46
  overall,
• 38:46
  but
• 38:46
  it's
• 38:46
  really
• 38:47
  not
• 38:47
  to
• 38:47
  Angela's
• 38:47
  point.
• 38:48
  It's
• 38:48
  really
• 38:48
  not
• 38:48
  that
• 38:48
  difficult
• 38:49
  and
• 38:49
  expensive
• 38:50
  really
• 38:50
  to
• 38:50
  get
• 38:50
  that
• 38:51
  high
• 38:51
  quality
• 38:51
  imagery.
• 38:52
  We
• 38:53
  just
• 38:53
  talk
• 38:53
  about
• 38:53
  bay
• 38:53
  point
• 38:54
  landing
• 38:54
  for
• 38:54
  one
• 38:55
  second,
• 38:55
  there
• 38:56
  was
• 38:56
  there's
• 38:56
  some
• 38:56
  gorgeous
• 38:56
  photos
• 38:57
  at
• 38:57
  bay
• 38:57
  0.1
• 38:58
  thing,
• 39:02
  that's
• 39:02
  on
• 39:02
  my
• 39:02
  bucket
• 39:03
  list
• 39:03
  of
• 39:03
  properties
• 39:04
  to
• 39:04
  visit
• 39:04
  it.
• 39:04
  And
• 39:05
  to
• 39:05
  Scott's
• 39:05
  point
• 39:05
  too
• 39:06
  like
• 39:06
  you
• 39:06
  said,
• 39:06
  it
• 39:06
  is
• 39:06
  a
• 39:06
  couple
• 39:07
  thousand
• 39:07
  dollars
• 39:08
  to
• 39:08
  have
• 39:08
  someone
• 39:08
  come
• 39:08
  in
• 39:09
  and
• 39:09
  in
• 39:09
  the
• 39:09
  grand
• 39:09
  scheme
• 39:10
  of
• 39:10
  things,
• 39:10
  the
• 39:10
  ROI
• 39:11
  that
• 39:11
  you're
• 39:11
  going
• 39:11
  to
• 39:11
  see
• 39:11
  on
• 39:12
  that,
• 39:12
  because
• 39:12
  you
• 39:13
  have
• 39:13
  displayed
• 39:14
  your
• 39:14
  property
• 39:14
  in
• 39:14
  a
• 39:14
  really
• 39:15
  nice.
• 39:16
  A
• 39:16
  really
• 39:16
  nice,
• 39:17
  consistent
• 39:17
  way.
• 39:17
  It'll
• 39:18
  pay
• 39:18
  for
• 39:18
  itself.
• 39:19
  It
• 39:19
  really
• 39:19
  well.
• 39:19
  And
• 39:20
  sometimes
• 39:20
  you
• 39:20
  just
• 39:21
  have
• 39:21
  to,
• 39:21
  you
• 39:21
  have
• 39:21
  to
• 39:22
  pull
• 39:22
  the
• 39:22
  trigger
• 39:22
  and
• 39:23
  rip
• 39:23
  the
• 39:23
  band-aid
• 39:24
  off,
• 39:24
  but
• 39:25
  pays
• 39:25
  for
• 39:25
  itself
• 39:25
  in
• 39:26
  a
• 39:26
  very
• 39:26
  short
• 39:26
  amount
• 39:26
  of
• 39:26
  time.
• 39:27
  And
• 39:28
  one
• 39:28
  last
• 39:28
  thought
• 39:28
  on
• 39:28
  that
• 39:28
  too,
• 39:29
  Angela,
• 39:30
  and
• 39:30
  I'm
• 39:30
  not
• 39:30
  a
• 39:30
  marketing
• 39:31
  guy,
• 39:31
  but
• 39:31
  I
• 39:31
  know
• 39:32
  enough
• 39:32
  to
• 39:32
  be
• 39:32
  dangerous,
• 39:33
  but
• 39:33
  if
• 39:33
  you
• 39:33
  focus
• 39:34
  and
• 39:34
  spend
• 39:34
  money
• 39:34
  on
• 39:35
  great
• 39:35
  content,
• 39:35
  you
• 39:36
  can
• 39:36
  really
• 39:36
  narrow
• 39:37
  your
• 39:37
  audience
• 39:38
  down
• 39:38
  to
• 39:39
  the
• 39:39
  folks
• 39:40
  that
• 39:40
  are
• 39:40
  actually
• 39:40
  going
• 39:40
  to
• 39:40
  book
• 39:41
  at
• 39:41
  your
• 39:41
  site.
• 39:41
  And
• 39:42
  so
• 39:42
  your
• 39:42
  Google
• 39:42
  and
• 39:43
  Facebook
• 39:43
  ad
• 39:43
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• 39:44
  is
• 39:44
  so
• 39:44
  much
• 39:44
  more
• 39:44
  efficient
• 39:45
  as
• 39:45
  well.
• 39:45
  So
• 39:45
  it
• 39:46
  almost,
• 39:46
  in
• 39:47
  some
• 39:47
  ways,
• 39:49
  Not
• 39:49
  only
• 39:49
  will
• 39:49
  make
• 39:49
  you
• 39:50
  more
• 39:50
  money,
• 39:50
  but
• 39:50
  can
• 39:50
  also
• 39:51
  start
• 39:51
  your
• 39:51
  marketing
• 39:51
  efforts
• 39:52
  because
• 39:52
  it
• 39:52
  can
• 39:52
  be
• 39:52
  more
• 39:52
  narrowed
• 39:53
  and
• 39:53
  focused
• 39:53
  as
• 39:53
  well.
• 39:56
  And
• 39:56
  it
• 39:56
  also
• 39:57
  ends
• 39:57
  up
• 39:57
  another
• 39:58
  point
• 39:58
  to
• 39:58
  that
• 39:59
  is
• 39:59
  the
• 40:00
  reviews
• 40:00
  that
• 40:00
  you
• 40:00
  get
• 40:01
  more
• 40:01
  consistent
• 40:02
  review
• 40:03
  ratings.
• 40:03
  So
• 40:03
  you're
• 40:03
  not
• 40:03
  getting
• 40:04
  as
• 40:04
  many
• 40:04
  negative
• 40:04
  reviews
• 40:05
  because
• 40:05
  they
• 40:05
  have,
• 40:06
  false
• 40:06
  expectations
• 40:07
  of
• 40:07
  what
• 40:07
  they're
• 40:07
  going
• 40:07
  to
• 40:07
  see.
• 40:08
  Yeah
• 40:08
  it's
• 40:08
  a
• 40:08
  multifaceted
• 40:09
  thing
• 40:10
  and,
• 40:10
  but
• 40:10
  really
• 40:10
  simple
• 40:11
  fix
• 40:11
  do.
• 40:14
  Yeah.
• 40:15
  And
• 40:15
  it's
• 40:15
  all
• 40:15
  just
• 40:15
  it's
• 40:16
  about
• 40:16
  putting
• 40:16
  thought
• 40:16
  into
• 40:16
  it,
• 40:17
  and
• 40:17
  thought
• 40:17
  and
• 40:17
  care
• 40:17
  in
• 40:18
  the
• 40:18
  same
• 40:18
  way
• 40:18
  that
• 40:18
  Scott
• 40:19
  does
• 40:19
  on
• 40:19
  the
• 40:19
  management
• 40:19
  operation
• 40:20
  side.
• 40:20
  And
• 40:20
  obviously
• 40:21
  he's
• 40:21
  got
• 40:21
  marketing
• 40:21
  people
• 40:21
  on
• 40:22
  his
• 40:22
  team
• 40:22
  to
• 40:23
  focus
• 40:23
  on
• 40:24
  that,
• 40:24
  but
• 40:24
  just
• 40:25
  putting
• 40:25
  thought
• 40:25
  and
• 40:26
  care
• 40:26
  into
• 40:26
  all
• 40:26
  the
• 40:26
  little
• 40:26
  things
• 40:27
  that
• 40:27
  go
• 40:27
  into
• 40:27
  the
• 40:27
  guest
• 40:27
  experience
• 40:28
  and
• 40:28
  the
• 40:28
  journey
• 40:28
  that
• 40:29
  people
• 40:29
  take
• 40:29
  the
• 40:29
  book
• 40:29
  with
• 40:29
  you
• 40:30
  from
• 40:30
  the
• 40:30
  photos
• 40:30
  like
• 40:30
  Casey
• 40:31
  was
• 40:31
  talking
• 40:31
  about
• 40:31
  Scott,
• 40:32
  and
• 40:32
  we've
• 40:32
  been
• 40:32
  talking
• 40:32
  about
• 40:32
  discussion
• 40:33
  to,
• 40:33
  the
• 40:33
  copy
• 40:34
  on
• 40:34
  your
• 40:34
  website
• 40:35
  to
• 40:35
  the
• 40:35
  blog
• 40:35
  posts
• 40:36
  you're
• 40:36
  writing
• 40:36
  to,
• 40:36
  we've
• 40:36
  got
• 40:37
  we've
• 40:37
  got
• 40:37
  a
• 40:37
  client
• 40:38
  that
• 40:38
  talks
• 40:39
  and
• 40:39
  portrays
• 40:40
  their
• 40:40
  entire
• 40:40
  glamping
• 40:41
  experience
• 40:42
  from
• 40:42
  a
• 40:42
  dog's
• 40:43
  perspective.
• 40:43
  And
• 40:43
  the
• 40:43
  copy
• 40:44
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• 40:44
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• 40:44
  website
• 40:45
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• 40:45
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• 40:45
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• 40:45
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• 40:45
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• 40:46
  perspective.
• 40:46
  And
• 40:46
  so
• 40:47
  it's,
• 40:47
  I
• 40:47
  don't
• 40:48
  know
• 40:48
  if
• 40:48
  it's
• 40:48
  something
• 40:48
  that
• 40:48
  obviously
• 40:49
  should
• 40:49
  be
• 40:49
  widespread
• 40:50
  or
• 40:50
  wide-scale,
• 40:50
  but
• 40:50
  for
• 40:50
  their
• 40:51
  park
• 40:51
  and
• 40:51
  their
• 40:51
  theme,
• 40:51
  it
• 40:52
  fits
• 40:52
  and
• 40:52
  it
• 40:52
  works
• 40:52
  for
• 40:52
  them.
• 40:53
  And
• 40:53
  it's.
• 40:53
  But
• 40:53
  the
• 40:53
  key
• 40:54
  is
• 40:54
  that
• 40:54
  if
• 40:54
  they're
• 40:54
  putting
• 40:55
  that
• 40:55
  thought
• 40:55
  into
• 40:56
  it,
• 40:56
  they're
• 40:56
  thinking
• 40:57
  about
• 40:57
  here's
• 40:57
  how
• 40:57
  I
• 40:57
  want
• 40:58
  to
• 40:58
  theme
• 40:58
  it.
• 40:58
  Here's
• 40:58
  how
• 40:58
  I
• 40:58
  want
• 40:59
  the
• 40:59
  guests
• 40:59
  to
• 40:59
  perceive
• 40:59
  it.
• 40:59
  Here's
• 41:00
  how
• 41:00
  I
• 41:00
  want
• 41:00
  it
• 41:00
  to
• 41:00
  do.
• 41:00
  And
• 41:01
  they're
• 41:01
  really
• 41:01
  like
• 41:02
  taking
• 41:02
  the
• 41:02
  time
• 41:02
  to
• 41:03
  create
• 41:03
  that
• 41:03
  stuff.
• 41:04
  And
• 41:04
  to
• 41:04
  Scott's
• 41:05
  point
• 41:05
  about
• 41:05
  even
• 41:05
  Google
• 41:06
  ads,
• 41:06
  all
• 41:06
  the
• 41:06
  directions
• 41:07
  we
• 41:07
  can
• 41:07
  take
• 41:07
  with
• 41:07
  us.
• 41:07
  We've
• 41:08
  got
• 41:08
  clients.
• 41:09
  Yeah.
• 41:09
  We've
• 41:09
  got
• 41:10
  clients
• 41:10
  again,
• 41:11
  like
• 41:11
  we
• 41:11
  talk
• 41:12
  about
• 41:12
  look
• 41:12
  at
• 41:12
  Arizona,
• 41:12
  for
• 41:13
  example,
• 41:13
  just
• 41:13
  cause
• 41:13
  this
• 41:13
  is
• 41:14
  the
• 41:14
  one
• 41:14
  that's
• 41:14
  popping
• 41:14
  into
• 41:14
  the,
• 41:15
  into
• 41:15
  my
• 41:15
  head.
• 41:15
  You
• 41:15
  narrow
• 41:16
  your
• 41:16
  focus
• 41:16
  and
• 41:17
  you
• 41:17
  T
• 41:17
  you
• 41:18
  target
• 41:18
  your
• 41:18
  Google
• 41:18
  ads
• 41:18
  and
• 41:19
  Facebook
• 41:19
  ads
• 41:19
  to
• 41:19
  people
• 41:20
  who
• 41:20
  are
• 41:21
  looking
• 41:21
  for
• 41:21
  places
• 41:21
  to
• 41:22
  stay
• 41:22
  near
• 41:22
  the
• 41:22
  city
• 41:22
  where
• 41:23
  the
• 41:23
  Campground
• 41:23
  is,
• 41:23
  the
• 41:23
  further
• 41:24
  you
• 41:24
  go
• 41:24
  out
• 41:24
  from
• 41:24
  that,
• 41:25
  the
• 41:25
  less
• 41:26
  narrow
• 41:26
  your
• 41:26
  targeting
• 41:27
  becomes,
• 41:27
  and
• 41:27
  you
• 41:27
  can
• 41:27
  still
• 41:28
  get
• 41:28
  guests
• 41:28
  as
• 41:29
  you
• 41:29
  increase
• 41:29
  that,
• 41:29
  but
• 41:30
  the
• 41:30
  ROI,
• 41:30
  the
• 41:30
  return
• 41:31
  on
• 41:31
  investment,
• 41:32
  the
• 41:32
  conversions,
• 41:32
  the
• 41:33
  all
• 41:33
  that
• 41:34
  goes
• 41:34
  down,
• 41:34
  because
• 41:35
  you're
• 41:35
  expanding
• 41:36
  your
• 41:36
  targeting.
• 41:36
  And
• 41:36
  and
• 41:37
  that's
• 41:37
  not
• 41:37
  just
• 41:37
  with
• 41:37
  Google
• 41:37
  ads,
• 41:38
  with
• 41:38
  everything
• 41:38
  you
• 41:38
  do
• 41:38
  copy
• 41:39
  and
• 41:39
  all
• 41:39
  that
• 41:39
  kind
• 41:39
  of
• 41:40
  stuff.
• 41:40
  Kurt,
• 41:40
  what
• 41:40
  have
• 41:40
  you
• 41:40
  seen
• 41:41
  from
• 41:41
  you've
• 41:41
  been
• 41:41
  quiet
• 41:42
  over
• 41:42
  there.
• 41:42
  Kurt,
• 41:42
  I
• 41:42
  feel
• 41:42
  like,
• 41:42
  cause
• 41:43
  we're
• 41:43
  talking
• 41:43
  a
• 41:43
  little
• 41:43
  about
• 41:43
  glamping,
• 41:44
  but
• 41:44
  like
• 41:44
  how
• 41:44
  do
• 41:44
  you
• 41:45
  envision
• 41:46
  some
• 41:46
  of
• 41:46
  these
• 41:46
  glamping
• 41:47
  operators
• 41:47
  as
• 41:47
  they
• 41:48
  increase
• 41:48
  their
• 41:48
  operations
• 41:49
  as
• 41:49
  they
• 41:50
  become
• 41:50
  more
• 41:51
  niche?
• 41:51
  In
• 41:51
  some
• 41:51
  cases
• 41:52
  working,
• 41:53
  not
• 41:53
  with
• 41:53
  directly
• 41:54
  the
• 41:54
  national
• 41:54
  parks,
• 41:55
  but
• 41:55
  working
• 41:56
  in,
• 41:56
  I
• 41:56
  don't
• 41:57
  know,
• 41:57
  coordination
• 41:58
  with
• 41:59
  the
• 41:59
  theming,
• 41:59
  the
• 41:59
  areas
• 42:00
  that
• 42:00
  things
• 42:00
  like
• 42:00
  that
• 42:01
  to
• 42:01
  help
• 42:01
  maybe
• 42:01
  amplify
• 42:02
  or
• 42:02
  increase
• 42:03
  the
• 42:03
  glamping
• 42:03
  experience
• 42:04
  at
• 42:04
  their
• 42:04
  properties
• 42:05
  that
• 42:05
  are
• 42:05
  near
• 42:05
  national
• 42:05
  parks.
• 42:06
  It's
• 42:06
  a
• 42:06
  good
• 42:06
  question.
• 42:06
  And
• 42:07
  it's
• 42:07
  outside
• 42:07
  my
• 42:08
  purview
• 42:08
  because
• 42:08
  I'm
• 42:09
  really
• 42:09
  focused
• 42:10
  inside
• 42:10
  national
• 42:10
  parks.
• 42:11
  And
• 42:11
  that's
• 42:11
  what
• 42:11
  I
• 42:12
  mean,
• 42:12
  like
• 42:12
  the
• 42:12
  theming,
• 42:12
  like
• 42:13
  if
• 42:13
  you're
• 42:13
  talking
• 42:13
  about
• 42:13
  Utah,
• 42:14
  right?
• 42:14
  Moab
• 42:14
  and
• 42:14
  stuff
• 42:14
  like
• 42:15
  that,
• 42:15
  obviously
• 42:15
  there's
• 42:15
  ways
• 42:16
  that
• 42:16
  I
• 42:16
  think
• 42:16
  that
• 42:17
  private
• 42:17
  parks
• 42:17
  can
• 42:18
  tie
• 42:18
  in
• 42:18
  the
• 42:18
  glamping
• 42:19
  experience
• 42:19
  at
• 42:19
  a
• 42:19
  park
• 42:20
  in
• 42:20
  Utah
• 42:21
  with
• 42:21
  the
• 42:21
  theming
• 42:22
  of.
• 42:23
  And
• 42:23
  make
• 42:23
  that
• 42:24
  kind
• 42:24
  of
• 42:24
  a
• 42:24
  more,
• 42:24
  I
• 42:24
  guess
• 42:25
  that's
• 42:25
  where
• 42:25
  I'm
• 42:25
  going.
• 42:25
  Maybe.
• 42:26
  I
• 42:26
  don't
• 42:26
  know.
• 42:28
  I
• 42:28
  think
• 42:29
  I
• 42:29
  know
• 42:29
  I'll
• 42:30
  I
• 42:30
  can
• 42:30
  speak
• 42:30
  from
• 42:31
  local
• 42:31
  parks
• 42:32
  here
• 42:32
  in
• 42:32
  Alberta.
• 42:33
  I
• 42:33
  just
• 42:33
  finished
• 42:34
  sitting
• 42:34
  on
• 42:34
  an
• 42:35
  outdoor
• 42:35
  recreation
• 42:36
  Roundtable
• 42:36
  and
• 42:37
  Alberta
• 42:37
  is
• 42:38
  the
• 42:38
  provincial
• 42:38
  parks
• 42:39
  are
• 42:39
  actively
• 42:40
  working
• 42:41
  to
• 42:42
  expand
• 42:43
  or
• 42:44
  enhance
• 42:45
  their
• 42:45
  regulatory
• 42:46
  requirements
• 42:47
  on
• 42:48
  outdoor
• 42:49
  recreation
• 42:50
  use
• 42:50
  on
• 42:51
  the
• 42:51
  crowns
• 42:51
  land,
• 42:52
  crown
• 42:52
  land
• 42:52
  properties
• 42:53
  surrounding
• 42:54
  immediately
• 42:54
  surrounding
• 42:55
  their
• 42:55
  provincial
• 42:55
  parks
• 42:56
  in
• 42:56
  a
• 42:57
  way
• 42:57
  to,
• 42:58
  Kurt
• 42:58
  touched
• 42:58
  on
• 42:58
  this
• 42:59
  earlier
• 42:59
  to
• 42:59
  both
• 43:00
  reduce
• 43:01
  human
• 43:01
  impact
• 43:02
  in
• 43:02
  those
• 43:02
  areas
• 43:03
  and
• 43:04
  do
• 43:04
  some
• 43:04
  more
• 43:04
  regulatory
• 43:05
  stuff,
• 43:05
  but
• 43:05
  also
• 43:06
  be
• 43:06
  more
• 43:06
  intentional
• 43:07
  about
• 43:08
  how
• 43:08
  visitors
• 43:08
  are
• 43:08
  using
• 43:09
  those
• 43:09
  spaces
• 43:10
  in
• 43:11
  order
• 43:11
  to
• 43:11
  cultivate
• 43:11
  experiences
• 43:12
  and
• 43:12
  things
• 43:13
  too.
• 43:13
  So
• 43:13
  things
• 43:13
  like.
• 43:14
  OHV
• 43:14
  like
• 43:15
  ATV
• 43:15
  use
• 43:16
  and
• 43:16
  things
• 43:16
  like
• 43:16
  that.
• 43:17
  They're
• 43:17
  putting
• 43:18
  in
• 43:18
  regulatory
• 43:18
  expectations
• 43:20
  and
• 43:20
  resources
• 43:21
  and
• 43:21
  facilities
• 43:22
  and
• 43:22
  things
• 43:22
  like
• 43:22
  that
• 43:23
  to
• 43:23
  better.
• 43:25
  I
• 43:25
  hate
• 43:25
  to
• 43:25
  say
• 43:26
  it
• 43:26
  control
• 43:26
  just
• 43:27
  to
• 43:27
  mitigate
• 43:27
  our
• 43:28
  impacts
• 43:28
  on
• 43:28
  those
• 43:29
  really
• 43:29
  vital
• 43:30
  kind
• 43:30
  of
• 43:31
  natural
• 43:31
  ecosystems
• 43:32
  that
• 43:32
  frankly
• 43:32
  can
• 43:33
  make
• 43:33
  up
• 43:33
  a
• 43:33
  large
• 43:34
  portion
• 43:34
  of
• 43:34
  this
• 43:34
  province.
• 43:35
  And
• 43:35
  we
• 43:35
  have
• 43:36
  several
• 43:36
  member,
• 43:36
  Campground
• 43:37
  member
• 43:37
  operators
• 43:38
  whose
• 43:38
  properties
• 43:39
  are
• 43:39
  either
• 43:39
  on
• 43:40
  those
• 43:40
  lands
• 43:41
  or
• 43:41
  directly
• 43:42
  border
• 43:42
  them.
• 43:43
  In
• 43:43
  the
• 43:43
  cases
• 43:43
  where
• 43:44
  they're
• 43:44
  on
• 43:44
  those
• 43:44
  lines,
• 43:44
  they
• 43:44
  have
• 43:45
  lease
• 43:45
  agreements
• 43:46
  with
• 43:46
  any
• 43:46
  Campground
• 43:47
  privately
• 43:47
  operated
• 43:47
  campgrounds
• 43:48
  there.
• 43:50
  But
• 43:50
  it
• 43:50
  certainly
• 43:50
  does
• 43:51
  have
• 43:51
  the
• 43:52
  potential
• 43:52
  to
• 43:52
  really
• 43:53
  impact
• 43:53
  their
• 43:53
  businesses.
• 43:54
  There
• 43:54
  are
• 43:54
  a
• 43:54
  few,
• 43:55
  we've
• 43:55
  had
• 43:56
  the
• 43:56
  owner
• 43:56
  of
• 43:56
  Sundance
• 43:57
  lodges
• 43:57
  on
• 43:57
  this
• 43:58
  show
• 43:58
  before
• 43:58
  quite
• 43:59
  some
• 43:59
  time
• 43:59
  ago,
• 43:59
  but
• 43:59
  her
• 43:59
  property
• 44:00
  is
• 44:00
  on
• 44:00
  CA
• 44:01
  in
• 44:01
  Canon
• 44:01
  ASCUS,
• 44:02
  provincial
• 44:02
  park.
• 44:03
  And
• 44:03
  she
• 44:03
  has
• 44:04
  the
• 44:04
  majority
• 44:04
  of
• 44:04
  her
• 44:05
  sites
• 44:05
  are
• 44:05
  TPS
• 44:06
  and
• 44:06
  outfitter
• 44:07
  tents.
• 44:07
  So
• 44:07
  she's
• 44:08
  actively
• 44:08
  operating
• 44:09
  a
• 44:09
  really
• 44:09
  successful
• 44:10
  glamping
• 44:10
  business
• 44:11
  on
• 44:11
  provincial
• 44:12
  public
• 44:12
  lands,
• 44:13
  through
• 44:14
  lease
• 44:14
  agreements
• 44:14
  and
• 44:15
  all
• 44:15
  of
• 44:15
  those
• 44:15
  things.
• 44:15
  I
• 44:15
  think
• 44:16
  there's
• 44:16
  obvious,
• 44:16
  there's
• 44:17
  great
• 44:17
  ways
• 44:17
  to
• 44:18
  facilitate
• 44:18
  good
• 44:19
  partnerships
• 44:19
  here
• 44:20
  that,
• 44:20
  she,
• 44:21
  as
• 44:21
  much
• 44:21
  as
• 44:21
  she
• 44:22
  is
• 44:22
  operating
• 44:22
  her
• 44:22
  business,
• 44:23
  she's
• 44:23
  also
• 44:24
  really
• 44:24
  passionate
• 44:25
  about
• 44:25
  keeping
• 44:26
  the
• 44:26
  environment
• 44:27
  prioritizing
• 44:28
  the
• 44:28
  treatment
• 44:29
  of
• 44:29
  the
• 44:29
  park
• 44:29
  and
• 44:30
  ensuring
• 44:31
  that
• 44:31
  her
• 44:31
  guests
• 44:32
  are
• 44:33
  great
• 44:33
  stewards
• 44:34
  of.
• 44:34
  Our
• 44:35
  natural
• 44:35
  environment
• 44:36
  and
• 44:37
  she's,
• 44:38
  in
• 44:38
  my
• 44:38
  opinion,
• 44:39
  the,
• 44:39
  a
• 44:39
  great
• 44:40
  example
• 44:40
  of
• 44:40
  the
• 44:40
  type
• 44:41
  of
• 44:41
  person
• 44:41
  that
• 44:42
  I
• 44:43
  think
• 44:43
  that
• 44:43
  those
• 44:43
  parks
• 44:43
  should
• 44:44
  be
• 44:44
  partnering
• 44:44
  with.
• 44:44
  She's
• 44:46
  not
• 44:46
  only
• 44:46
  prioritizing
• 44:47
  her
• 44:47
  bottom
• 44:47
  line,
• 44:48
  but
• 44:48
  also
• 44:48
  that
• 44:49
  stewardship
• 44:50
  and
• 44:51
  I
• 44:51
  do
• 44:51
  think
• 44:51
  it,
• 44:52
  the
• 44:52
  Alberta
• 44:52
  government
• 44:52
  is
• 44:53
  actively
• 44:53
  seeking
• 44:54
  other
• 44:54
  partners
• 44:55
  to
• 44:55
  do
• 44:55
  more
• 44:56
  agreements
• 44:56
  like
• 44:57
  that
• 44:57
  with,
• 44:57
  so
• 44:58
  there
• 44:58
  is,
• 44:59
  I
• 44:59
  don't
• 44:59
  think
• 44:59
  we
• 44:59
  can
• 44:59
  compare
• 45:00
  apples
• 45:00
  to
• 45:00
  oranges
• 45:01
  here.
• 45:02
  We
• 45:02
  have
• 45:03
  different
• 45:03
  dynamics
• 45:04
  in
• 45:04
  terms
• 45:05
  of
• 45:05
  population
• 45:05
  densities
• 45:06
  and
• 45:06
  those
• 45:06
  kinds
• 45:07
  of
• 45:07
  things,
• 45:07
  but
• 45:07
  there
• 45:08
  is
• 45:08
  an
• 45:08
  an
• 45:08
  active
• 45:08
  push
• 45:09
  on
• 45:09
  the
• 45:10
  provincial
• 45:10
  government's
• 45:10
  part
• 45:11
  to
• 45:11
  expand
• 45:12
  access
• 45:13
  to
• 45:13
  those
• 45:14
  public
• 45:14
  lands,
• 45:15
  to
• 45:16
  disperse.
• 45:17
  Some
• 45:17
  of
• 45:17
  the
• 45:17
  traffic
• 45:17
  that's
• 45:18
  really
• 45:18
  concentrated
• 45:19
  in
• 45:19
  places
• 45:19
  like
• 45:20
  Banff
• 45:20
  and
• 45:20
  cannon
• 45:20
  ASCUS,
• 45:22
  other
• 45:22
  areas
• 45:22
  of
• 45:22
  the
• 45:22
  province
• 45:23
  that
• 45:23
  are.
• 45:24
  Incredibly
• 45:24
  gorgeous
• 45:25
  and
• 45:25
  offer
• 45:26
  those
• 45:26
  unique
• 45:27
  experiences
• 45:28
  that
• 45:28
  are
• 45:28
  just
• 45:28
  not
• 45:29
  really
• 45:29
  well-known.
• 45:30
  And
• 45:31
  so
• 45:32
  those
• 45:32
  private
• 45:32
  businesses
• 45:33
  like
• 45:34
  Sundance
• 45:34
  lodges
• 45:35
  can
• 45:35
  really
• 45:35
  benefit
• 45:36
  from
• 45:36
  those
• 45:36
  government
• 45:37
  initiatives
• 45:37
  that
• 45:38
  are
• 45:38
  targeting
• 45:39
  those
• 45:39
  things.
• 45:40
  Sorry,
• 45:40
  Brian,
• 45:40
  I
• 45:40
  feel
• 45:41
  like
• 45:41
  that's
• 45:41
  a
• 45:41
  long-winded
• 45:42
  way
• 45:42
  of
• 45:42
  saying
• 45:43
  those
• 45:43
  things
• 45:43
  are
• 45:43
  starting
• 45:44
  to
• 45:44
  happen
• 45:44
  and
• 45:45
  are
• 45:45
  proving
• 45:46
  to
• 45:46
  be
• 45:46
  successful
• 45:47
  here.
• 45:47
  And
• 45:47
  so
• 45:48
  I
• 45:48
  think
• 45:48
  as
• 45:48
  long
• 45:48
  as
• 45:49
  it's,
• 45:49
  again,
• 45:49
  I
• 45:49
  keep
• 45:50
  saying
• 45:50
  this
• 45:50
  word
• 45:50
  intentional
• 45:51
  and
• 45:52
  really
• 45:52
  focused
• 45:53
  on
• 45:54
  not
• 45:54
  just
• 45:54
  bottom
• 45:55
  line
• 45:55
  and
• 45:55
  dollars
• 45:56
  and
• 45:56
  things
• 45:56
  like
• 45:56
  that.
• 45:56
  I
• 45:56
  think
• 45:57
  there's
• 45:57
  ways
• 45:57
  we
• 45:57
  can
• 45:58
  Be
• 45:58
  really
• 45:58
  successful.
• 45:59
  Hey
• 45:59
  Kara,
• 46:00
  I
• 46:00
  think
• 46:01
  Cara,
• 46:01
  I
• 46:01
  guess
• 46:02
  I'm
• 46:02
  more
• 46:02
  cynical
• 46:02
  than
• 46:02
  you
• 46:03
  are.
• 46:05
  Firstly,
• 46:05
  what
• 46:06
  I
• 46:06
  hear
• 46:06
  talk
• 46:06
  about
• 46:07
  investment
• 46:08
  companies
• 46:08
  and,
• 46:09
  looking
• 46:09
  into
• 46:09
  the
• 46:09
  glamping
• 46:10
  business
• 46:10
  and
• 46:11
  displacing
• 46:11
  the
• 46:12
  mom
• 46:12
  and
• 46:12
  pop
• 46:12
  operations.
• 46:13
  And
• 46:13
  I
• 46:13
  think,
• 46:13
  what's
• 46:14
  going
• 46:14
  on
• 46:14
  in
• 46:14
  Utah
• 46:15
  is
• 46:15
  a
• 46:15
  perfect
• 46:15
  example
• 46:16
  of
• 46:16
  what
• 46:18
  we
• 46:18
  have
• 46:18
  to
• 46:18
  watch
• 46:18
  out
• 46:19
  for
• 46:19
  when
• 46:20
  these
• 46:20
  companies
• 46:21
  that
• 46:21
  have
• 46:21
  the
• 46:21
  political
• 46:22
  clout
• 46:22
  in
• 46:22
  the
• 46:22
  financial
• 46:23
  clout
• 46:24
  to,
• 46:25
  to
• 46:25
  move
• 46:25
  on
• 46:25
  to
• 46:26
  public
• 46:26
  lands,
• 46:27
  fringing
• 46:28
  national
• 46:28
  parks
• 46:30
  and
• 46:30
  increasing
• 46:30
  the
• 46:30
  pressure
• 46:31
  on
• 46:31
  those
• 46:31
  parks.
• 46:32
  And
• 46:32
  how
• 46:32
  much
• 46:33
  a
• 46:33
  night
• 46:33
  do
• 46:33
  you
• 46:33
  want
• 46:33
  to
• 46:33
  spend
• 46:34
  to
• 46:34
  sleep
• 46:35
  in
• 46:35
  a
• 46:35
  tent?
• 46:35
  I
• 46:36
  see
• 46:36
  there's
• 46:36
  an
• 46:37
  Airstream
• 46:37
  model
• 46:37
  coming
• 46:38
  towards
• 46:38
  Zion
• 46:39
  national
• 46:39
  park
• 46:39
  and
• 46:39
  $300
• 46:40
  a
• 46:40
  night.
• 46:41
  We're
• 46:41
  gonna,
• 46:41
  price
• 46:42
  the
• 46:42
  experience.
• 46:43
  Out
• 46:44
  for
• 46:44
  a
• 46:44
  lot
• 46:44
  of
• 46:44
  folks.
• 46:45
  Now
• 46:45
  moving
• 46:45
  away
• 46:46
  from
• 46:46
  Western
• 46:47
  cynical
• 46:48
  voice
• 46:50
  down
• 46:50
  in
• 46:50
  Everglades
• 46:51
  national
• 46:51
  park,
• 46:51
  there's
• 46:51
  an
• 46:52
  interesting
• 46:52
  operation
• 46:53
  at
• 46:53
  Flamingo
• 46:54
  down
• 46:54
  on
• 46:55
  the
• 46:55
  very
• 46:55
  Southern
• 46:55
  tip
• 46:55
  of
• 46:55
  the
• 46:55
  park
• 46:56
  where
• 46:56
  the
• 46:56
  concessionaire,
• 46:57
  because
• 46:57
  of
• 46:58
  some
• 46:59
  hurricanes
• 47:00
  that
• 47:00
  wiped
• 47:00
  out
• 47:00
  the
• 47:00
  lodge
• 47:01
  there
• 47:01
  back
• 47:01
  in
• 47:01
  2005,
• 47:02
  I
• 47:02
  think
• 47:03
  it
• 47:03
  was
• 47:03
  they're
• 47:04
  slowly
• 47:04
  rebuilding
• 47:05
  some
• 47:05
  hard
• 47:06
  lodging
• 47:06
  facilities
• 47:07
  there,
• 47:07
  which
• 47:07
  I
• 47:07
  think
• 47:07
  are
• 47:07
  going
• 47:07
  to
• 47:07
  open
• 47:08
  next
• 47:08
  year.
• 47:08
  But
• 47:09
  they've
• 47:09
  also
• 47:09
  dabbled
• 47:10
  with,
• 47:10
  glamping.
• 47:11
  They've
• 47:11
  got
• 47:11
  some
• 47:11
  beautiful
• 47:12
  tents
• 47:12
  for
• 47:13
  mango
• 47:13
  with
• 47:13
  beds
• 47:14
  and
• 47:14
  dressers
• 47:14
  and
• 47:14
  lamps
• 47:15
  and
• 47:15
  whatnot.
• 47:16
  But
• 47:16
  again,
• 47:17
  you
• 47:17
  run
• 47:17
  into,
• 47:17
  what
• 47:18
  Scott
• 47:18
  was
• 47:18
  saying
• 47:18
  earlier
• 47:19
  about,
• 47:19
  do
• 47:19
  you
• 47:19
  want
• 47:19
  to
• 47:20
  go
• 47:20
  to
• 47:20
  sleep,
• 47:20
  listening
• 47:20
  to
• 47:21
  your
• 47:21
  neighbor?
• 47:21
  You
• 47:21
  have
• 47:22
  to
• 47:22
  be
• 47:22
  a
• 47:22
  little
• 47:22
  bit
• 47:23
  sensitive
• 47:23
  to
• 47:24
  how
• 47:24
  you
• 47:25
  disperse
• 47:25
  those
• 47:26
  glamping
• 47:26
  operations.
• 47:28
  So
• 47:29
  as
• 47:29
  not
• 47:29
  to
• 47:29
  ruin
• 47:29
  the
• 47:29
  experience.
• 47:30
  And
• 47:30
  even
• 47:31
  that
• 47:31
  goes
• 47:31
  beyond
• 47:32
  tents.
• 47:32
  I
• 47:32
  was
• 47:32
  in
• 47:33
  summit
• 47:33
  from
• 47:34
  cabins
• 47:34
  where
• 47:34
  I
• 47:34
  could
• 47:34
  hear
• 47:35
  the
• 47:35
  couple
• 47:35
  of
• 47:35
  next
• 47:35
  door
• 47:35
  most
• 47:36
  of
• 47:36
  the
• 47:36
  night,
• 47:39
  but
• 47:39
  I
• 47:39
  do
• 47:39
  think
• 47:40
  as
• 47:40
  the
• 47:40
  national
• 47:40
  park
• 47:40
  service
• 47:41
  looks
• 47:41
  towards
• 47:42
  what
• 47:42
  the
• 47:42
  21st
• 47:42
  century
• 47:43
  Camping
• 47:43
  experience
• 47:44
  should
• 47:45
  be.
• 47:46
  I'd
• 47:46
  like
• 47:46
  what
• 47:46
  parks
• 47:47
  Canada
• 47:47
  has
• 47:47
  done
• 47:48
  with
• 47:48
  introducing
• 47:48
  some
• 47:49
  glamping
• 47:49
  options.
• 47:50
  We
• 47:50
  had
• 47:50
  a
• 47:51
  story
• 47:51
  on
• 47:51
  that
• 47:51
  earlier
• 47:52
  this
• 47:52
  year
• 47:52
  and
• 47:53
  really
• 47:53
  unique
• 47:54
  The
• 47:54
  combinations
• 47:55
  that
• 47:56
  they're
• 47:56
  offering
• 47:56
  out
• 47:56
  there,
• 47:57
  but
• 47:57
  I
• 47:57
  think
• 47:57
  it
• 47:58
  has
• 47:58
  to
• 47:58
  be
• 47:58
  done
• 47:58
  in
• 47:58
  a
• 47:58
  sensitive
• 47:59
  way.
• 47:59
  It
• 47:59
  shouldn't
• 47:59
  be
• 48:00
  listed.
• 48:00
  We
• 48:00
  can
• 48:00
  shoehorn
• 48:01
  in
• 48:02
  because
• 48:02
  that's
• 48:02
  where
• 48:04
  it's
• 48:04
  going
• 48:04
  to
• 48:04
  ruin
• 48:05
  the
• 48:05
  natural
• 48:06
  habitat
• 48:06
  and
• 48:06
  natural
• 48:07
  resources.
• 48:09
  And
• 48:09
  it's
• 48:09
  just
• 48:09
  going
• 48:10
  to
• 48:10
  trash
• 48:10
  the
• 48:10
  place.
• 48:11
  I
• 48:11
  couldn't
• 48:12
  agree
• 48:12
  more
• 48:13
  Curt.
• 48:13
  I
• 48:13
  think
• 48:14
  I
• 48:14
  know
• 48:14
  specifically
• 48:15
  here
• 48:15
  in
• 48:15
  Alberta,
• 48:16
  there's
• 48:16
  been
• 48:17
  up
• 48:17
  until
• 48:17
  now
• 48:18
  a
• 48:18
  real
• 48:19
  frankly,
• 48:19
  a
• 48:19
  complete
• 48:20
  limitation
• 48:20
  on
• 48:20
  developments
• 48:21
  of
• 48:21
  certain
• 48:22
  types
• 48:22
  on
• 48:23
  our
• 48:23
  public
• 48:23
  lands.
• 48:24
  And
• 48:24
  the
• 48:24
  intention
• 48:25
  of
• 48:25
  this
• 48:25
  outdoor
• 48:25
  recreation
• 48:26
  round
• 48:27
  table
• 48:27
  was
• 48:27
  to
• 48:28
  start
• 48:28
  that
• 48:28
  regulatory
• 48:29
  conversation
• 48:30
  process
• 48:31
  so
• 48:31
  that
• 48:31
  the
• 48:31
  government
• 48:32
  can
• 48:32
  begin
• 48:32
  to
• 48:33
  assess,
• 48:33
  I
• 48:34
  think
• 48:34
  we
• 48:34
  can
• 48:34
  be,
• 48:35
  they
• 48:35
  can,
• 48:35
  their
• 48:35
  intention
• 48:36
  is
• 48:36
  to
• 48:37
  be
• 48:37
  focused
• 48:38
  on
• 48:39
  ensuring
• 48:39
  that
• 48:40
  the
• 48:40
  right
• 48:40
  types
• 48:41
  of
• 48:41
  partnerships.
• 48:41
  Coming
• 48:42
  to
• 48:42
  place
• 48:43
  in
• 48:43
  those
• 48:43
  areas
• 48:45
  in
• 48:45
  order
• 48:46
  to
• 48:46
  prioritize
• 48:47
  the
• 48:47
  things
• 48:47
  that
• 48:47
  you're
• 48:48
  saying,
• 48:48
  the
• 48:48
  experience
• 48:49
  the
• 48:49
  you
• 48:49
  know,
• 48:50
  equitable
• 48:50
  access
• 48:51
  to
• 48:51
  those
• 48:51
  public
• 48:51
  lens
• 48:52
  for
• 48:52
  as
• 48:53
  much
• 48:53
  of
• 48:53
  the
• 48:53
  population
• 48:54
  as
• 48:54
  possible.
• 48:55
  Those
• 48:55
  kinds
• 48:55
  of
• 48:55
  things
• 48:56
  have
• 48:56
  to
• 48:56
  stay
• 48:56
  at
• 48:57
  the
• 48:57
  top
• 48:57
  of
• 48:57
  the
• 48:57
  priority
• 48:58
  list
• 48:58
  above
• 48:59
  a
• 48:59
  lot
• 49:00
  of
• 49:00
  or
• 49:00
  above
• 49:01
  any
• 49:01
  frankly,
• 49:02
  private
• 49:02
  interest.
• 49:04
  When
• 49:04
  you
• 49:04
  start
• 49:05
  talking
• 49:05
  about
• 49:05
  an
• 49:05
  investment
• 49:06
  companies
• 49:06
  coming
• 49:06
  in,
• 49:07
  you're
• 49:07
  getting
• 49:07
  lose
• 49:07
  that
• 49:08
  well,
• 49:08
  and
• 49:09
  I
• 49:09
  think
• 49:09
  there's
• 49:10
  there
• 49:10
  is
• 49:11
  going
• 49:11
  to
• 49:11
  be,
• 49:12
  I
• 49:12
  don't,
• 49:12
  I
• 49:12
  don't
• 49:13
  want
• 49:13
  to
• 49:13
  speak
• 49:13
  out
• 49:13
  of
• 49:13
  turn,
• 49:13
  but
• 49:14
  in
• 49:14
  my
• 49:14
  opinion,
• 49:15
  I
• 49:15
  don't
• 49:15
  see
• 49:16
  them
• 49:17
  there
• 49:18
  being
• 49:18
  willingness
• 49:19
  to,
• 49:19
  to
• 49:19
  partner
• 49:20
  with
• 49:21
  investment
• 49:22
  firms.
• 49:22
  I
• 49:22
  think
• 49:23
  maybe
• 49:23
  I'm
• 49:23
  pipe
• 49:23
  dreaming,
• 49:23
  but
• 49:24
  I
• 49:24
  do,
• 49:25
  I
• 49:25
  have
• 49:25
  seen
• 49:26
  applicants.
• 49:27
  They've
• 49:27
  actively
• 49:28
  got
• 49:28
  applications
• 49:29
  for
• 49:29
  Perks.
• 49:30
  Open
• 49:30
  for
• 49:30
  over
• 49:30
  a
• 49:30
  year
• 49:31
  now.
• 49:31
  And
• 49:31
  I
• 49:31
  haven't
• 49:32
  seen
• 49:32
  them
• 49:32
  refuse
• 49:34
  partnerships,
• 49:35
  based
• 49:35
  on
• 49:36
  the
• 49:37
  relationship,
• 49:38
  not
• 49:39
  being,
• 49:40
  not
• 49:40
  aligning
• 49:40
  with
• 49:41
  their
• 49:41
  goals
• 49:41
  or
• 49:41
  priorities.
• 49:42
  I
• 49:42
  think
• 49:42
  I'm
• 49:43
  hopeful
• 49:44
  again.
• 49:45
  There's
• 49:45
  it's
• 49:46
  easy
• 49:46
  to
• 49:46
  imagine.
• 49:47
  I
• 49:47
  agree
• 49:47
  with
• 49:47
  you,
• 49:47
  Kurt.
• 49:48
  It's
• 49:48
  easy
• 49:48
  to
• 49:48
  imagine
• 49:49
  that
• 49:49
  dollars
• 49:50
  are
• 49:50
  going
• 49:51
  to
• 49:51
  dictate
• 49:51
  how
• 49:52
  these
• 49:52
  decisions
• 49:53
  get
• 49:53
  made.
• 49:53
  And
• 49:53
  so
• 49:54
  I
• 49:54
  think
• 49:54
  it's
• 49:54
  important
• 49:54
  that
• 49:55
  we
• 49:56
  remain
• 49:56
  strong
• 49:57
  advocates
• 49:57
  about
• 49:58
  how
• 49:59
  our
• 49:59
  public
• 49:59
  parks
• 50:00
  should
• 50:01
  look
• 50:01
  and
• 50:01
  how
• 50:01
  those
• 50:01
  partnerships
• 50:02
  should
• 50:02
  work.
• 50:03
  The
• 50:03
  private
• 50:04
  operations
• 50:05
  that
• 50:06
  currently
• 50:06
  exist
• 50:07
  there
• 50:07
  or
• 50:07
  bordering,
• 50:08
  there
• 50:08
  are
• 50:09
  very
• 50:09
  reliant
• 50:10
  on
• 50:11
  the
• 50:11
  continued
• 50:13
  success
• 50:14
  and
• 50:15
  longevity
• 50:16
  of
• 50:16
  those
• 50:16
  lens.
• 50:17
  And
• 50:17
  it's
• 50:17
  in
• 50:18
  their
• 50:18
  interest
• 50:18
  as
• 50:18
  well
• 50:19
  to
• 50:19
  not
• 50:19
  see
• 50:20
  them
• 50:20
  reduced
• 50:21
  to,
• 50:21
  corporate
• 50:23
  hotels,
• 50:24
  arcades
• 50:25
  and
• 50:25
  stuff.
• 50:26
  Yeah,
• 50:26
  I
• 50:26
  think
• 50:26
  there's
• 50:26
  a
• 50:26
  big
• 50:26
  group
• 50:27
  of
• 50:27
  folks
• 50:27
  who
• 50:28
  want
• 50:29
  to
• 50:29
  see
• 50:29
  them,
• 50:29
  stay
• 50:30
  very
• 50:30
  focused
• 50:31
  on
• 50:31
  the
• 50:31
  intention,
• 50:32
  the
• 50:32
  fundamental
• 50:33
  intention
• 50:34
  of
• 50:34
  our
• 50:34
  public
• 50:34
  lands
• 50:35
  and
• 50:35
  what
• 50:35
  they're
• 50:35
  there
• 50:36
  for.
• 50:38
  I
• 50:38
  hope
• 50:38
  they'll
• 50:38
  stay
• 50:38
  noisy.
• 50:41
  We'll
• 50:42
  go
• 50:42
  ahead.
• 50:43
  Think
• 50:43
  you
• 50:43
  wanted
• 50:43
  to
• 50:43
  add
• 50:43
  something.
• 50:46
  Oh,
• 50:46
  I've
• 50:47
  a
• 50:48
  few
• 50:48
  thoughts,
• 50:48
  but
• 50:49
  I
• 50:49
  think
• 50:50
  it's
• 50:50
  all,
• 50:50
  I
• 50:50
  think
• 50:50
  Kurt
• 50:51
  and
• 50:51
  Cara
• 50:52
  will
• 50:52
  bring
• 50:52
  up
• 50:52
  really
• 50:53
  good
• 50:53
  points
• 50:53
  about
• 50:54
  how
• 50:54
  we
• 50:54
  could
• 50:55
  how
• 50:55
  we
• 50:55
  need
• 50:56
  to
• 50:56
  navigate
• 50:56
  this
• 50:57
  as
• 50:57
  an
• 50:57
  industry
• 50:58
  and,
• 50:58
  from
• 50:58
  a
• 50:59
  group
• 50:59
  that
• 50:59
  works
• 50:59
  with
• 51:00
  a
• 51:00
  lot
• 51:00
  of
• 51:01
  investment
• 51:01
  money,
• 51:02
  I
• 51:02
  think
• 51:02
  I
• 51:02
  can
• 51:03
  say.
• 51:03
  Yeah,
• 51:04
  there's
• 51:04
  groups
• 51:04
  out
• 51:04
  there
• 51:04
  that
• 51:05
  do
• 51:05
  it
• 51:05
  better
• 51:05
  than
• 51:05
  others.
• 51:06
  One
• 51:06
  thing
• 51:06
  to
• 51:06
  keep
• 51:07
  in
• 51:07
  mind,
• 51:07
  and
• 51:07
  I
• 51:07
  don't
• 51:07
  know
• 51:08
  how
• 51:08
  this
• 51:09
  it's
• 51:09
  not
• 51:09
  perfect,
• 51:10
  but
• 51:10
  out
• 51:11
  of
• 51:11
  these
• 51:11
  these,
• 51:12
  auto
• 51:12
  camps
• 51:13
  of
• 51:13
  the
• 51:13
  world
• 51:13
  and
• 51:13
  others
• 51:14
  are
• 51:14
  going
• 51:14
  into
• 51:15
  existing
• 51:15
  properties,
• 51:16
  existing
• 51:16
  camp
• 51:17
  grounds
• 51:17
  that,
• 51:18
  had
• 51:18
  more
• 51:18
  RVs
• 51:20
  on
• 51:20
  them
• 51:20
  than
• 51:21
  the
• 51:21
  density
• 51:21
  that
• 51:21
  they're
• 51:22
  being
• 51:22
  redeveloped
• 51:23
  into.
• 51:23
  And
• 51:23
  I'm
• 51:23
  curious
• 51:24
  to
• 51:24
  know,
• 51:24
  how
• 51:25
  those
• 51:25
  groups
• 51:26
  can
• 51:26
  partner
• 51:27
  with
• 51:27
  the
• 51:28
  national
• 51:28
  park
• 51:29
  system
• 51:29
  and
• 51:29
  the
• 51:30
  local
• 51:30
  community
• 51:30
  to
• 51:31
  like,
• 51:31
  let's
• 51:31
  not
• 51:31
  forget
• 51:32
  it's
• 51:32
  not
• 51:32
  just
• 51:32
  the
• 51:32
  national
• 51:33
  park
• 51:33
  system,
• 51:33
  but
• 51:34
  how
• 51:34
  we
• 51:34
  can
• 51:34
  help
• 51:34
  benefit
• 51:35
  those
• 51:35
  local
• 51:35
  communities
• 51:36
  through
• 51:37
  tax
• 51:37
  dollars
• 51:38
  and
• 51:38
  community
• 51:38
  outreach
• 51:39
  and
• 51:39
  ways
• 51:39
  to
• 51:39
  be
• 51:40
  a
• 51:40
  good
• 51:40
  neighbor
• 51:40
  by
• 51:41
  allowing
• 51:41
  our
• 51:41
  guests
• 51:42
  to
• 51:42
  connect
• 51:43
  to
• 51:43
  nature,
• 51:43
  to
• 51:43
  connect
• 51:44
  to
• 51:44
  the
• 51:44
  national
• 51:44
  parks
• 51:44
  that
• 51:45
  they're
• 51:45
  going
• 51:45
  to
• 51:45
  visit
• 51:46
  in
• 51:46
  a
• 51:46
  different
• 51:46
  way
• 51:47
  than
• 51:47
  they
• 51:47
  would
• 51:47
  even
• 51:47
  in
• 51:47
  an
• 51:48
  RV.
• 51:48
  That
• 51:48
  was
• 51:48
  the.
• 51:49
  Point
• 51:50
  of
• 51:50
  the
• 51:50
  property
• 51:51
  that,
• 51:51
  that
• 51:51
  they're
• 51:51
  redeveloping
• 51:52
  or,
• 51:52
  another,
• 51:53
  five
• 51:53
  story
• 51:53
  hotel
• 51:54
  that's
• 51:54
  going
• 51:54
  up
• 51:55
  in
• 51:55
  town.
• 51:55
  So
• 51:56
  I
• 51:56
  think
• 51:56
  there's
• 51:56
  a
• 51:56
  way
• 51:57
  that
• 51:57
  the
• 51:57
  glamping
• 51:58
  and
• 51:58
  outdoor
• 51:58
  hospitality
• 51:59
  industry
• 52:00
  be
• 52:00
  very
• 52:00
  good
• 52:01
  stewards.
• 52:01
  I
• 52:01
  just
• 52:02
  don't
• 52:02
  think
• 52:02
  we
• 52:03
  know
• 52:03
  exactly
• 52:03
  how
• 52:03
  yet.
• 52:04
  So
• 52:04
  I
• 52:04
  think
• 52:04
  we
• 52:04
  have
• 52:05
  to
• 52:05
  take
• 52:05
  small
• 52:06
  short,
• 52:06
  intentional
• 52:07
  steps.
• 52:11
  Yeah.
• 52:11
  And
• 52:11
  that's
• 52:12
  the
• 52:12
  thing,
• 52:12
  that's
• 52:12
  the
• 52:12
  point
• 52:13
  of
• 52:13
  opening
• 52:13
  up?
• 52:13
  Yeah.
• 52:14
  Oh,
• 52:14
  that's
• 52:14
  the
• 52:14
  point
• 52:14
  of
• 52:14
  opening
• 52:15
  up
• 52:15
  this
• 52:15
  conversation.
• 52:15
  That's
• 52:16
  why
• 52:16
  I
• 52:16
  invited
• 52:16
  Kurt
• 52:17
  on
• 52:17
  the
• 52:17
  show
• 52:17
  and
• 52:17
  I
• 52:17
  want
• 52:17
  him
• 52:17
  to
• 52:17
  be
• 52:18
  a
• 52:18
  regular
• 52:18
  guest
• 52:18
  because
• 52:19
  prompting
• 52:20
  enforcing
• 52:20
  these
• 52:20
  discussions
• 52:21
  that
• 52:21
  kind
• 52:21
  of
• 52:21
  make
• 52:22
  people
• 52:22
  uncomfortable.
• 52:23
  They're
• 52:23
  not
• 52:23
  sure
• 52:23
  where
• 52:23
  to
• 52:23
  start
• 52:24
  is
• 52:24
  the
• 52:24
  way
• 52:24
  that
• 52:24
  we
• 52:24
  make
• 52:24
  progress.
• 52:25
  And
• 52:25
  so
• 52:26
  there's
• 52:26
  so
• 52:26
  many
• 52:27
  nuances
• 52:27
  involved
• 52:28
  in
• 52:28
  this
• 52:28
  from
• 52:28
  the
• 52:28
  basic
• 52:29
  of
• 52:29
  what
• 52:29
  I
• 52:29
  said,
• 52:30
  partnering
• 52:30
  and
• 52:30
  what
• 52:30
  we're
• 52:30
  talking
• 52:31
  about
• 52:31
  with
• 52:31
  Scott,
• 52:31
  to
• 52:32
  the
• 52:32
  things
• 52:32
  that
• 52:33
  Cara
• 52:33
  talked
• 52:33
  about,
• 52:34
  like
• 52:34
  the
• 52:34
  concessionaires
• 52:35
  and
• 52:35
  the
• 52:35
  businesses
• 52:36
  that
• 52:36
  are
• 52:36
  actually
• 52:37
  within
• 52:37
  national
• 52:37
  parks
• 52:38
  that
• 52:38
  have
• 52:38
  a
• 52:38
  deeper
• 52:38
  partnership
• 52:39
  with
• 52:39
  them.
• 52:39
  I
• 52:39
  went
• 52:39
  up
• 52:40
  to
• 52:40
  Jasper
• 52:41
  national
• 52:41
  park
• 52:41
  here
• 52:42
  in.
• 52:42
  A
• 52:42
  week
• 52:42
  and
• 52:42
  a
• 52:42
  half
• 52:42
  ago
• 52:43
  or
• 52:43
  something
• 52:43
  like
• 52:43
  that.
• 52:43
  And
• 52:43
  we
• 52:43
  stayed
• 52:44
  at
• 52:44
  a
• 52:44
  beautiful
• 52:44
  place
• 52:45
  called
• 52:45
  pine
• 52:45
  bungalows.
• 52:46
  That
• 52:46
  was
• 52:47
  a
• 52:47
  little
• 52:47
  tiny
• 52:48
  lodge.
• 52:48
  They
• 52:48
  had
• 52:48
  a
• 52:48
  little,
• 52:49
  a
• 52:49
  couple
• 52:49
  hotel
• 52:49
  rooms,
• 52:50
  but
• 52:50
  for
• 52:50
  the
• 52:50
  most
• 52:50
  part,
• 52:50
  it
• 52:50
  was
• 52:51
  standalone
• 52:51
  cabins
• 52:52
  that
• 52:52
  were
• 52:52
  right
• 52:52
  by
• 52:52
  the
• 52:52
  river.
• 52:53
  And
• 52:53
  they
• 52:53
  were
• 52:53
  on
• 52:54
  like,
• 52:54
  not
• 52:54
  near,
• 52:55
  they
• 52:55
  were
• 52:55
  in
• 52:55
  the
• 52:55
  national
• 52:56
  park.
• 52:57
  And
• 52:57
  so
• 52:57
  as
• 52:57
  we
• 52:57
  expanded
• 52:58
  to
• 52:58
  glamping
• 52:59
  and
• 52:59
  Campground
• 52:59
  is
• 52:59
  try
• 52:59
  to
• 53:00
  innovate
• 53:00
  and
• 53:01
  create
• 53:01
  more
• 53:01
  partnerships,
• 53:02
  both
• 53:02
  with
• 53:02
  our
• 53:02
  local
• 53:02
  community
• 53:03
  like
• 53:03
  Scott
• 53:03
  was
• 53:03
  saying,
• 53:03
  but
• 53:04
  also
• 53:04
  with
• 53:04
  these
• 53:04
  national
• 53:05
  parks,
• 53:05
  there's
• 53:06
  ways
• 53:06
  that
• 53:06
  these
• 53:06
  can
• 53:06
  be
• 53:06
  intertwined
• 53:07
  in
• 53:07
  a
• 53:07
  more
• 53:07
  thoughtful
• 53:08
  way
• 53:09
  than
• 53:10
  just
• 53:11
  money
• 53:11
  or
• 53:11
  just
• 53:11
  investment
• 53:12
  groups
• 53:12
  or
• 53:12
  just
• 53:13
  whatever.
• 53:13
  Yeah.
• 53:15
  I
• 53:15
  agree.
• 53:16
  I
• 53:16
  think
• 53:16
  the
• 53:17
  so
• 53:18
  much
• 53:18
  of
• 53:18
  our
• 53:20
  potential
• 53:20
  market
• 53:21
  is
• 53:22
  enters
• 53:22
  the
• 53:23
  Camping
• 53:23
  kind
• 53:24
  of
• 53:24
  realm
• 53:24
  and
• 53:24
  world.
• 53:26
  By
• 53:27
  experiencing
• 53:28
  those
• 53:28
  public
• 53:29
  lands
• 53:29
  and
• 53:30
  those
• 53:30
  public
• 53:30
  spaces.
• 53:31
  And
• 53:31
  so
• 53:31
  whether
• 53:32
  private
• 53:33
  operators
• 53:33
  like
• 53:33
  it
• 53:33
  or
• 53:33
  not,
• 53:34
  we
• 53:34
  are
• 53:34
  very
• 53:34
  reliant
• 53:35
  on
• 53:35
  their
• 53:36
  longevity
• 53:36
  and
• 53:36
  success.
• 53:37
  And
• 53:37
  embracing
• 53:38
  that
• 53:38
  and
• 53:39
  seeing
• 53:39
  where
• 53:39
  we
• 53:39
  all
• 53:39
  fit
• 53:40
  together
• 53:40
  in
• 53:40
  this
• 53:40
  puzzle
• 53:42
  as
• 53:42
  a
• 53:42
  big
• 53:42
  picture
• 53:42
  is
• 53:43
  incredibly
• 53:43
  vital.
• 53:44
  I.
• 53:45
  Like
• 53:46
  I
• 53:46
  said,
• 53:46
  we
• 53:46
  have
• 53:47
  several
• 53:47
  operators
• 53:48
  here
• 53:49
  specifically
• 53:49
  in
• 53:49
  Alberta,
• 53:50
  but
• 53:50
  I'm
• 53:50
  sure
• 53:50
  across
• 53:51
  Canada
• 53:51
  who
• 53:52
  can
• 53:53
  attest
• 53:53
  to,
• 53:54
  the
• 53:54
  success
• 53:54
  of
• 53:55
  their
• 53:55
  business
• 53:56
  being
• 53:56
  completely
• 53:57
  reliant
• 53:57
  on
• 53:58
  the
• 53:58
  success
• 53:58
  of
• 53:59
  the
• 53:59
  park.
• 53:59
  And
• 53:59
  so
• 54:00
  the
• 54:00
  interest
• 54:01
  from
• 54:01
  our,
• 54:01
  from
• 54:02
  those,
• 54:03
  from
• 54:03
  the
• 54:04
  government
• 54:04
  to
• 54:05
  not
• 54:05
  only
• 54:06
  make
• 54:06
  those
• 54:06
  parks
• 54:07
  continue
• 54:07
  to
• 54:07
  make
• 54:07
  those
• 54:08
  parks
• 54:08
  amazing,
• 54:08
  we're
• 54:09
  seeing
• 54:09
  tons
• 54:09
  of
• 54:09
  financial
• 54:10
  investment
• 54:11
  in
• 54:11
  Campground
• 54:11
  spaces
• 54:12
  to
• 54:12
  add
• 54:12
  RV
• 54:13
  connections
• 54:13
  and
• 54:13
  things
• 54:14
  like
• 54:14
  that.
• 54:14
  But
• 54:14
  then
• 54:15
  we're
• 54:15
  also
• 54:15
  seeing,
• 54:16
  like
• 54:16
  I
• 54:16
  said
• 54:16
  before
• 54:17
  directive
• 54:17
  to
• 54:18
  really
• 54:19
  start
• 54:20
  to
• 54:20
  harness
• 54:20
  some
• 54:21
  of
• 54:21
  the
• 54:21
  other
• 54:21
  areas
• 54:22
  in
• 54:22
  the
• 54:22
  province
• 54:23
  to
• 54:23
  help
• 54:24
  disperse
• 54:25
  some
• 54:25
  of
• 54:25
  the
• 54:26
  traffic
• 54:26
  from
• 54:26
  the
• 54:27
  really
• 54:27
  popular
• 54:28
  spots
• 54:28
  like
• 54:28
  Banff
• 54:28
  and
• 54:29
  Jasper
• 54:29
  and
• 54:29
  whatnot.
• 54:30
  And,
• 54:30
  I'm
• 54:30
  confident
• 54:30
  that's
• 54:31
  happening
• 54:31
  across
• 54:31
  the.
• 54:33
  Yeah,
• 54:33
  and
• 54:33
  I
• 54:34
  definitely
• 54:34
  want
• 54:34
  to
• 54:34
  continue
• 54:35
  this
• 54:35
  discussion
• 54:35
  and
• 54:35
  we
• 54:35
  can't.
• 54:36
  I
• 54:36
  just
• 54:36
  want
• 54:36
  to
• 54:36
  bring
• 54:36
  Scott
• 54:36
  in
• 54:37
  one
• 54:37
  more
• 54:37
  time.
• 54:37
  Cause
• 54:37
  we
• 54:37
  did
• 54:37
  tell
• 54:38
  him
• 54:38
  we
• 54:38
  were
• 54:38
  only
• 54:38
  going
• 54:38
  to
• 54:38
  take
• 54:38
  an
• 54:39
  hour
• 54:39
  of
• 54:39
  his
• 54:39
  time
• 54:39
  and
• 54:39
  his
• 54:39
  life
• 54:40
  here
• 54:40
  at
• 54:40
  the
• 54:40
  show.
• 54:40
  So
• 54:42
  feel
• 54:42
  free
• 54:42
  to
• 54:42
  drop
• 54:43
  off
• 54:43
  anytime
• 54:43
  you
• 54:43
  want.
• 54:44
  But
• 54:44
  just
• 54:44
  before
• 54:44
  you
• 54:45
  leave,
• 54:45
  if
• 54:45
  you
• 54:45
  have
• 54:45
  to
• 54:45
  go
• 54:46
  here,
• 54:46
  just
• 54:46
  tell
• 54:47
  us
• 54:47
  what
• 54:47
  are
• 54:47
  you
• 54:47
  looking
• 54:47
  forward
• 54:47
  to
• 54:48
  at
• 54:48
  this
• 54:48
  glamping
• 54:48
  show?
• 54:48
  What's
• 54:49
  coming
• 54:49
  up
• 54:49
  for
• 54:49
  you.
• 54:49
  What
• 54:50
  are
• 54:50
  you
• 54:50
  excited
• 54:50
  about
• 54:51
  as
• 54:51
  you
• 54:51
  continue
• 54:51
  the
• 54:52
  show?
• 54:53
  Yeah.
• 54:54
  Yeah.
• 54:54
  What's,
• 54:55
  I
• 54:55
  think
• 54:55
  as
• 54:55
  a
• 54:56
  company,
• 54:56
  we
• 54:56
  have
• 54:56
  been
• 54:56
  trending
• 54:57
  towards,
• 54:58
  really
• 54:58
  understanding
• 54:59
  the
• 54:59
  need
• 54:59
  to
• 54:59
  create
• 55:01
  the
• 55:01
  why
• 55:02
  create,
• 55:02
  why
• 55:03
  our
• 55:03
  guests
• 55:03
  are
• 55:03
  coming
• 55:04
  and
• 55:04
  why
• 55:04
  they're
• 55:04
  coming
• 55:05
  to
• 55:05
  our
• 55:05
  locations
• 55:06
  and
• 55:06
  how
• 55:06
  we
• 55:07
  can
• 55:07
  really
• 55:07
  create
• 55:07
  those
• 55:08
  experiences.
• 55:09
  And
• 55:09
  it
• 55:10
  sounds
• 55:10
  buzzworthy
• 55:11
  to
• 55:11
  say,
• 55:11
  things
• 55:12
  like
• 55:12
  experiential
• 55:12
  hospitality,
• 55:13
  but
• 55:14
  as
• 55:14
  a
• 55:14
  company
• 55:14
  we're
• 55:15
  doubling
• 55:15
  down
• 55:15
  in
• 55:15
  that,
• 55:16
  and
• 55:16
  we've
• 55:16
  hired
• 55:17
  some
• 55:17
  really
• 55:17
  high
• 55:18
  powered
• 55:18
  people
• 55:18
  that
• 55:19
  have
• 55:19
  designed
• 55:20
  experience
• 55:21
  stores
• 55:21
  for
• 55:21
  Nike
• 55:22
  and
• 55:22
  that
• 55:22
  sort
• 55:22
  of
• 55:22
  thing
• 55:22
  of
• 55:23
  how
• 55:23
  guests
• 55:24
  should
• 55:24
  be
• 55:24
  using
• 55:25
  spaces
• 55:25
  and
• 55:25
  how
• 55:26
  they
• 55:26
  should
• 55:26
  be
• 55:26
  feeling
• 55:26
  in
• 55:26
  those
• 55:27
  spaces.
• 55:27
  And
• 55:27
  I
• 55:27
  think.
• 55:29
  I'm
• 55:29
  really
• 55:29
  excited
• 55:30
  about
• 55:30
  that
• 55:30
  direction
• 55:31
  that
• 55:31
  we're
• 55:31
  taking
• 55:31
  as
• 55:32
  a
• 55:32
  company.
• 55:32
  And
• 55:32
  that
• 55:32
  I
• 55:32
  think
• 55:33
  I
• 55:33
  see
• 55:34
  our
• 55:34
  industry
• 55:34
  moving
• 55:35
  towards
• 55:35
  is
• 55:36
  really
• 55:36
  focusing
• 55:37
  on
• 55:37
  how
• 55:37
  our
• 55:37
  guests
• 55:37
  feel,
• 55:38
  not
• 55:38
  just
• 55:38
  providing
• 55:39
  sites
• 55:39
  and
• 55:40
  the
• 55:40
  clubhouse
• 55:40
  of
• 55:40
  the
• 55:40
  pool
• 55:41
  and
• 55:41
  an
• 55:41
  affordable
• 55:42
  rate
• 55:42
  and
• 55:42
  really
• 55:42
  what
• 55:43
  that
• 55:43
  means
• 55:43
  and
• 55:43
  how
• 55:44
  we
• 55:44
  can
• 55:44
  improve
• 55:45
  as
• 55:45
  an
• 55:45
  industry
• 55:45
  and
• 55:45
  grows
• 55:46
  in
• 55:46
  industry.
• 55:46
  That's
• 55:46
  what
• 55:47
  I
• 55:47
  think
• 55:47
  I'm
• 55:47
  most
• 55:47
  excited
• 55:48
  about
• 55:48
  this.
• 55:48
  I
• 55:49
  also
• 55:49
  love
• 55:49
  seeing
• 55:50
  the
• 55:50
  innovation
• 55:51
  of,
• 55:51
  again,
• 55:51
  you've
• 55:52
  got
• 55:52
  all
• 55:52
  these
• 55:53
  structures
• 55:53
  back
• 55:53
  here
• 55:54
  and
• 55:54
  that's
• 55:54
  just
• 55:54
  a
• 55:54
  small
• 55:54
  sampling
• 55:55
  of
• 55:55
  them.
• 55:55
  There
• 55:56
  are
• 55:56
  all
• 55:56
  sorts
• 55:56
  of
• 55:56
  things
• 55:57
  that
• 55:57
  we're
• 55:57
  seeing
• 55:58
  that
• 55:58
  I
• 55:58
  think
• 55:59
  how
• 55:59
  practical
• 55:59
  they
• 55:59
  are
• 56:00
  in
• 56:00
  in
• 56:00
  in
• 56:00
  in
• 56:00
  our
• 56:01
  line
• 56:01
  of
• 56:01
  work
• 56:01
  from
• 56:01
  an
• 56:02
  operating
• 56:02
  standpoint
• 56:03
  and
• 56:03
  how
• 56:03
  well
• 56:03
  the
• 56:04
  up
• 56:04
  might
• 56:04
  be
• 56:05
  a
• 56:05
  question,
• 56:05
  but
• 56:05
  I
• 56:05
  love
• 56:06
  the
• 56:06
  ingenuity
• 56:07
  of
• 56:07
  our
• 56:07
  industry
• 56:07
  and
• 56:07
  how
• 56:08
  we're
• 56:08
  constantly
• 56:08
  reinventing.
• 56:09
  So
• 56:10
  that's
• 56:10
  what
• 56:10
  I'm
• 56:10
  most
• 56:10
  excited
• 56:11
  about
• 56:11
  seeing
• 56:11
  here.
• 56:12
  And
• 56:12
  I
• 56:12
  think
• 56:13
  the
• 56:13
  direction
• 56:13
  that
• 56:14
  the
• 56:14
  industry
• 56:14
  is
• 56:14
  going.
• 56:17
  Awesome.
• 56:17
  If
• 56:18
  you,
• 56:18
  again,
• 56:18
  feel
• 56:18
  free
• 56:18
  to
• 56:19
  stay
• 56:19
  with
• 56:19
  us,
• 56:19
  Scott,
• 56:19
  but
• 56:19
  if
• 56:19
  you
• 56:19
  need
• 56:20
  to
• 56:20
  jump
• 56:20
  off,
• 56:20
  please,
• 56:20
  I
• 56:20
  know
• 56:21
  you
• 56:21
  were
• 56:21
  at
• 56:21
  the
• 56:21
  show
• 56:21
  and
• 56:21
  you've
• 56:22
  got
• 56:22
  all
• 56:22
  kinds
• 56:22
  of
• 56:22
  other
• 56:22
  commitments
• 56:23
  and
• 56:23
  things
• 56:23
  to
• 56:23
  do
• 56:23
  there.
• 56:23
  But
• 56:24
  yeah,
• 56:24
  I
• 56:24
  think
• 56:24
  we're
• 56:25
  at
• 56:25
  an
• 56:25
  hour
• 56:25
  and
• 56:26
  five
• 56:26
  minutes
• 56:26
  here.
• 56:26
  My
• 56:27
  phone's
• 56:27
  going
• 56:27
  off.
• 56:27
  Cause
• 56:28
  people
• 56:28
  that
• 56:28
  I
• 56:28
  was
• 56:28
  only
• 56:28
  gonna
• 56:28
  be
• 56:29
  available
• 56:29
  for
• 56:29
  an
• 56:29
  hour
• 56:29
  or
• 56:29
  two
• 56:29
  are
• 56:30
  gone
• 56:30
  for
• 56:30
  an
• 56:30
  hour.
• 56:30
  Is
• 56:30
  there
• 56:30
  anything
• 56:31
  else
• 56:31
  that
• 56:31
  we
• 56:31
  want
• 56:31
  to
• 56:31
  cover,
• 56:31
  wrap
• 56:32
  up,
• 56:32
  talk
• 56:32
  about
• 56:32
  glamping
• 56:33
  care
• 56:33
  or
• 56:33
  anything
• 56:34
  else
• 56:34
  that
• 56:34
  you
• 56:34
  can
• 56:34
  think
• 56:34
  of?
• 56:34
  No,
• 56:35
  I
• 56:35
  think
• 56:36
  it
• 56:36
  was
• 56:36
  a
• 56:36
  great
• 56:36
  show
• 56:37
  touched
• 56:37
  on
• 56:37
  lots
• 56:37
  of
• 56:38
  stuff.
• 56:38
  So
• 56:38
  thankful
• 56:39
  to
• 56:39
  everybody
• 56:39
  for
• 56:39
  joining
• 56:40
  us.
• 56:40
  I
• 56:40
  know
• 56:40
  Casey
• 56:41
  had
• 56:41
  to
• 56:41
  drop
• 56:41
  off.
• 56:41
  Thanks.
• 56:42
  Appreciate
• 56:42
  Casey
• 56:43
  for
• 56:43
  joining
• 56:43
  us.
• 56:44
  Sorry.
• 56:44
  We
• 56:44
  miss
• 56:45
  Randy
• 56:45
  and
• 56:45
  mark
• 56:45
  cap
• 56:46
  and
• 56:46
  Susan
• 56:47
  I
• 56:47
  look
• 56:48
  forward
• 56:48
  to
• 56:48
  the
• 56:48
  next
• 56:49
  big
• 56:49
  group
• 56:49
  chat
• 56:50
  at
• 56:50
  the
• 56:50
  beginning
• 56:51
  of
• 56:51
  November
• 56:51
  3rd.
• 56:53
  Yeah,
• 56:53
  we'll
• 56:53
  have
• 56:53
  everybody
• 56:54
  back
• 56:54
  on
• 56:54
  on
• 56:54
  November
• 56:55
  3rd
• 56:55
  and
• 56:55
  we'll
• 56:55
  have
• 56:55
  some
• 56:56
  of
• 56:56
  those
• 56:56
  people
• 56:56
  that
• 56:56
  we
• 56:56
  missed,
• 56:56
  hopefully
• 56:57
  as
• 56:57
  well.
• 56:57
  It
• 56:57
  was
• 56:57
  Sandy
• 56:57
  Ellingson.
• 56:58
  She
• 56:58
  was
• 56:59
  from
• 56:59
  the
• 56:59
  balloon
• 56:59
  Fiesta.
• 57:00
  Just
• 57:00
  had
• 57:00
  some
• 57:00
  trouble
• 57:00
  getting
• 57:01
  on.
• 57:01
  She
• 57:01
  emailed
• 57:01
  me
• 57:02
  and
• 57:02
  stuff
• 57:02
  like
• 57:02
  that.
• 57:02
  So
• 57:02
  that's
• 57:03
  expected.
• 57:03
  We're
• 57:03
  traveling,
• 57:04
  things
• 57:04
  happen,
• 57:04
  stuff
• 57:04
  like
• 57:04
  that.
• 57:05
  I
• 57:06
  know
• 57:06
  Randy
• 57:06
  will
• 57:06
  be
• 57:06
  back
• 57:06
  joining
• 57:07
  us
• 57:07
  next
• 57:07
  month.
• 57:08
  And
• 57:08
  obviously
• 57:08
  we'll
• 57:08
  have
• 57:08
  Scott
• 57:09
  and
• 57:09
  Kurt
• 57:09
  back
• 57:09
  with
• 57:09
  us.
• 57:09
  Casey.
• 57:10
  Darryle
• 57:10
  is
• 57:10
  here
• 57:10
  to
• 57:11
  you
• 57:11
  was
• 57:11
  super
• 57:11
  quiet.
• 57:11
  I
• 57:11
  don't
• 57:11
  think
• 57:12
  he
• 57:12
  said
• 57:12
  a
• 57:12
  word,
• 57:12
  the
• 57:12
  whole
• 57:12
  show.
• 57:12
  But
• 57:13
  you
• 57:13
  gotta,
• 57:13
  we're
• 57:14
  gonna
• 57:14
  break
• 57:14
  Darryle
• 57:14
  out
• 57:14
  of
• 57:14
  his
• 57:15
  shell
• 57:15
  and
• 57:15
  make
• 57:15
  them
• 57:15
  a
• 57:15
  little
• 57:15
  less
• 57:16
  shy
• 57:16
  as
• 57:16
  the
• 57:16
  weeks
• 57:17
  go
• 57:17
  on.
• 57:17
  But
• 57:17
  yeah
• 57:17
  there's
• 57:17
  so
• 57:18
  many
• 57:18
  cool
• 57:18
  things
• 57:18
  that
• 57:18
  Darryle
• 57:19
  has
• 57:19
  seen
• 57:19
  and
• 57:19
  covered
• 57:19
  for
• 57:20
  glamping
• 57:20
  and
• 57:20
  stuff
• 57:20
  like
• 57:20
  that
• 57:21
  on
• 57:21
  Modern
• 57:21
  Campground
• 57:21
  too.
• 57:22
  It's
• 57:22
  a
• 57:22
  worldwide
• 57:23
  only
• 57:23
  growing
• 57:24
  phenomenon,
• 57:24
  so
• 57:25
  I'm
• 57:25
  sure
• 57:26
  we'll
• 57:26
  have
• 57:26
  more
• 57:26
  shows
• 57:26
  on
• 57:26
  that
• 57:27
  and
• 57:27
  talk
• 57:27
  about
• 57:27
  more
• 57:27
  than
• 57:27
  that.
• 57:28
  So
• 57:28
  Kurt,
• 57:28
  any
• 57:29
  last
• 57:29
  thoughts?
• 57:29
  I
• 57:29
  think
• 57:29
  it's
• 57:29
  really
• 57:30
  interesting
• 57:31
  topic.
• 57:32
  Obviously
• 57:32
  there's
• 57:32
  a
• 57:32
  lot
• 57:32
  of
• 57:32
  people
• 57:33
  want
• 57:33
  to
• 57:33
  get
• 57:33
  to
• 57:33
  the
• 57:33
  outdoors.
• 57:34
  The
• 57:35
  question
• 57:35
  is
• 57:35
  whether
• 57:35
  it's
• 57:35
  sustainable.
• 57:36
  There
• 57:36
  was.
• 57:37
  The
• 57:37
  big
• 57:38
  rush
• 57:38
  for
• 57:38
  the
• 57:38
  RV
• 57:39
  vehicles
• 57:39
  the
• 57:39
  past
• 57:40
  year
• 57:40
  or
• 57:40
  so.
• 57:40
  And
• 57:41
  a
• 57:41
  lot
• 57:41
  of
• 57:41
  insiders
• 57:42
  told
• 57:42
  me
• 57:42
  that
• 57:42
  you're
• 57:42
  going
• 57:43
  to
• 57:43
  see
• 57:43
  a
• 57:43
  lot
• 57:43
  of
• 57:43
  gently
• 57:44
  used
• 57:44
  RVs
• 57:45
  for
• 57:45
  sale
• 57:45
  coming
• 57:45
  up
• 57:46
  in
• 57:46
  the
• 57:46
  coming
• 57:46
  year.
• 57:46
  So
• 57:47
  it'll
• 57:47
  be
• 57:47
  interesting
• 57:47
  to
• 57:47
  see
• 57:48
  whether
• 57:48
  those
• 57:48
  sales
• 57:49
  hold
• 57:49
  up
• 57:49
  and
• 57:50
  turn
• 57:50
  into
• 57:51
  full-time
• 57:51
  year
• 57:52
  round
• 57:52
  RV
• 57:53
  enthusiasts,
• 57:53
  and
• 57:54
  the
• 57:54
  same
• 57:54
  thing
• 57:54
  with
• 57:54
  the
• 57:54
  national
• 57:55
  parks.
• 57:55
  There's
• 57:55
  been
• 57:55
  a
• 57:55
  lot
• 57:56
  of
• 57:56
  crowding
• 57:56
  out
• 57:56
  there.
• 57:57
  And
• 57:57
  is
• 57:57
  it
• 57:57
  just
• 57:58
  a
• 57:58
  a
• 57:58
  blip
• 57:58
  because
• 57:59
  of
• 57:59
  COVID
• 57:59
  or,
• 58:00
  are
• 58:00
  ESE
• 58:01
  year
• 58:01
  round,
• 58:01
  more
• 58:01
  and
• 58:01
  more
• 58:02
  visitors
• 58:02
  don't
• 58:02
  want
• 58:02
  international
• 58:03
  parks
• 58:03
  and
• 58:03
  will
• 58:04
  they
• 58:04
  become
• 58:04
  national
• 58:05
  park
• 58:05
  advocates?
• 58:08
  Yep.
• 58:08
  Absolutely
• 58:09
  agreed
• 58:09
  to
• 58:09
  seeing
• 58:09
  how
• 58:09
  that
• 58:09
  takes
• 58:10
  shape
• 58:10
  and
• 58:10
  all
• 58:10
  kinds
• 58:10
  of
• 58:10
  discussions
• 58:11
  that
• 58:11
  we're
• 58:11
  going
• 58:11
  to
• 58:11
  have
• 58:11
  from
• 58:12
  it.
• 58:12
  So
• 58:12
  appreciate
• 58:12
  you
• 58:12
  guys
• 58:13
  joining
• 58:13
  us
• 58:13
  as
• 58:13
  a
• 58:13
  reminder.
• 58:14
  If
• 58:14
  you're
• 58:14
  watching
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• 58:15
  live
• 58:15
  here,
• 58:15
  you've
• 58:15
  already
• 58:16
  seen
• 58:16
  the
• 58:16
  show
• 58:16
  and
• 58:16
  you
• 58:16
  don't
• 58:16
  need
• 58:17
  to
• 58:17
  pay
• 58:17
  attention
• 58:17
  to
• 58:17
  what
• 58:17
  I'm
• 58:17
  saying
• 58:17
  now,
• 58:18
  but
• 58:18
  if
• 58:18
  you
• 58:18
  haven't
• 58:18
  watched
• 58:19
  this
• 58:19
  live
• 58:19
  you
• 58:19
  can
• 58:19
  go
• 58:20
  check
• 58:20
  out
• 58:20
  us
• 58:20
  on
• 58:20
  our
• 58:21
  podcast
• 58:21
  will
• 58:21
  be
• 58:21
  available
• 58:22
  on
• 58:22
  Spotify,
• 58:22
  Google,
• 58:23
  apple
• 58:23
  podcasts,
• 58:23
  all
• 58:24
  those
• 58:24
  kinds
• 58:24
  of
• 58:24
  places.
• 58:24
  Afterwards,
• 58:25
  you
• 58:25
  can
• 58:25
  listen
• 58:25
  to
• 58:25
  us
• 58:25
  on
• 58:26
  MC
• 58:26
  Fireside
• 58:26
  Chats,
• 58:27
  as
• 58:27
  well
• 58:27
  as
• 58:27
  all
• 58:27
  the
• 58:27
  backstory
• 58:28
  episodes.
• 58:29
  And
• 58:29
  we
• 58:29
  will
• 58:29
  see
• 58:30
  you
• 58:30
  next
• 58:30
  week.
• 58:30
  I
• 58:30
  think
• 58:30
  we're
• 58:31
  going
• 58:31
  to
• 58:31
  talk
• 58:31
  with
• 58:31
  Christine
• 58:32
  Taylor
• 58:32
  from
• 58:32
  town
• 58:33
  law
• 58:33
  firm,
• 58:33
  and
• 58:34
  a
• 58:34
  couple
• 58:34
  other
• 58:34
  guests.
• 58:34
  We're
• 58:35
  going
• 58:35
  to
• 58:35
  just
• 58:35
  dive
• 58:35
  into
• 58:36
  this
• 58:36
  potential
• 58:37
  vaccine
• 58:38
  mandate
• 58:38
  that
• 58:39
  might
• 58:39
  be
• 58:39
  coming
• 58:39
  across
• 58:40
  the
• 58:40
  United
• 58:40
  States,
• 58:41
  Canada,
• 58:41
  things
• 58:41
  like
• 58:41
  that.
• 58:42
  It's
• 58:42
  already
• 58:42
  here
• 58:42
  in
• 58:42
  Canada,
• 58:43
  but
• 58:43
  how
• 58:44
  that
• 58:44
  might
• 58:44
  impact
• 58:44
  Campground
• 58:45
  and
• 58:45
  park
• 58:45
  owners,
• 58:46
  specifically
• 58:47
  state
• 58:47
  by
• 58:47
  state
• 58:48
  jurisdiction
• 58:48
  by
• 58:48
  jurisdiction,
• 58:49
  what
• 58:49
  they
• 58:49
  need
• 58:49
  to
• 58:49
  look
• 58:50
  at,
• 58:50
  how
• 58:50
  they
• 58:50
  can
• 58:50
  work
• 58:51
  with
• 58:51
  employees
• 58:51
  and
• 58:51
  things
• 58:52
  like
• 58:52
  that.
• 58:52
  As
• 58:52
  far
• 58:52
  as
• 58:53
  I
• 58:53
  want.
• 58:54
  Colleagues
• 58:54
  to
• 58:54
  be
• 58:54
  vaccinated
• 58:55
  and
• 58:55
  unvaccinated
• 58:56
  and
• 58:56
  all
• 58:56
  kinds
• 58:57
  of
• 58:57
  crazy
• 58:57
  issues
• 58:58
  that
• 58:58
  we
• 58:58
  can
• 58:58
  dive
• 58:58
  into
• 58:59
  there.
• 58:59
  So
• 59:00
  looking
• 59:00
  forward
• 59:00
  to
• 59:00
  a
• 59:00
  good
• 59:01
  discussion
• 59:01
  next
• 59:02
  week
• 59:02
  and
• 59:02
  really
• 59:02
  appreciate
• 59:03
  you
• 59:03
  all.
• 59:03
  Scott,
• 59:03
  Kurt
• 59:04
  Darrow,
• 59:04
  Angela
• 59:05
  Cara,
• 59:05
  all
• 59:05
  joining
• 59:06
  us
• 59:06
  Casey,
• 59:06
  who
• 59:06
  had
• 59:07
  to
• 59:07
  drop
• 59:07
  off
• 59:07
  early
• 59:07
  and
• 59:08
  we
• 59:08
  will
• 59:08
  see
• 59:08
  you
• 59:08
  next
• 59:08
  week
• 59:09
  for
• 59:09
  another
• 59:09
  good
• 59:09
  show.