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DJ Akademiks On "Dusty" Rappers, Reginae Carter, Meek Mill, 6ix9ine, Contributions To Culture + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club morning,
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  Speaker 1: everybody is DJ Envy and Jula Yee, Charlemagne the guy.
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  Speaker 1: We are to Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
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  Speaker 1: in the building, the bad guy Academics. One of those weeks. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it's my week. God damn, I say everything and you
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  Speaker 1: just pissed off everybody. You know. The funny part about
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  Speaker 1: it is, let me tell this, it's really when they
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  Speaker 1: select a nigga every single time where it's like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: we all attacking him. You know what I mean. It's
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  Speaker 1: an internet And by the way, just one of those weeks,
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  Speaker 1: Like it's not my first time, so I'm handling a
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  Speaker 1: little bit better so I know, like you know, after
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  Speaker 1: this tough week gets a little bit better. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't choosing. I've always by the way, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I always every opinion I'm giving where every opinion that's
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  Speaker 1: pissing everybody off. It's not like I'm just shooting out
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  Speaker 1: hot takes. If I'm just shooting out hot takes or
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  Speaker 1: shit to like be like shocking, I'd be like damn,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm tweaking. But a lot of these things are
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  Speaker 1: like you know again, um and I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you want to just jump into like go. Essentially, people
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  Speaker 1: are taking a thirty or forty or sixty second clip
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  Speaker 1: out of me streaming for five hours, and I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about all type of things. I'm breaking things down. I'm
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  Speaker 1: having full in depth conversation, fullward context. And obviously, if
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  Speaker 1: you gotta be you guys do radio. I mean I
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  Speaker 1: think so, I think. But even like when when you
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  Speaker 1: have to talk to a crowd or talk to any
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  Speaker 1: audience line for four or five hours and you got
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  Speaker 1: to be arenttaining. You got some jokes in there, you
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  Speaker 1: got some tongue in cheek comments, and those are the ship.
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  Speaker 1: They're only folks, and nobody wants to talk about nothing
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  Speaker 1: actually solid like yo, he said, he said, he said
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  Speaker 1: all the ogs are broken, Dusty, I say that. And
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  Speaker 1: also that wasn't even context. You did say that. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't say, oh you are I want to ask you
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  Speaker 1: about that because you said something. You said you didn't
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  Speaker 1: choose this, but you did. Because whenever you choose to
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  Speaker 1: having a pace union on something, you're making a choice
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  Speaker 1: to talk about somebody, and you know you might depend
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  Speaker 1: not disagree when I said I didn't choose like this
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  Speaker 1: timing is that if anyone knows aaron a culture, what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying is that it they could pick me in
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  Speaker 1: any week because I'm giving the same takes every week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not. It's not like I'm I'm like toning it
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  Speaker 1: down like everybody before, yes, opinions. So it's one of
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  Speaker 1: those things where like it's like cancelation and like people
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  Speaker 1: who claim they woke you know what I mean a
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  Speaker 1: lot of times like they when they want to go
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  Speaker 1: at you it's new. It's not like they're like, oh oh,
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  Speaker 1: so for everyone that's seen it for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: they like, oh, he's tweaking this week. People call me
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  Speaker 1: to like, yo, you should tone it down, like nigga,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I've been saving for the last three years.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get some structures. I would want to start
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  Speaker 1: with the DJ academics. That's what I seen it first.
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  Speaker 1: People was like, is he a DJO? That's the craziest thing.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I thought he answered that before. No. No,
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  Speaker 1: But but you know what's so funny about that conversation,
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  Speaker 1: the mere fact we're still talking about you know, even
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  Speaker 1: that like you know, it's trending. But I think only
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  Speaker 1: a certain subset of the population still has this very
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  Speaker 1: rigid what does it mean to be a DJ? Just
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  Speaker 1: like how you know, even now, people have this rigid
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  Speaker 1: definition of what it means to be a journalist, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, thinking about this, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of new media platforms owned by entrepreneurs. They have
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  Speaker 1: the editorial control over things that you could could see
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  Speaker 1: his journalism or they journalist. Like, a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: are being blurred now. Number one. Let's let's even also,
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  Speaker 1: you're new to a lot of people. Even though you've
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  Speaker 1: been doing this for like thirteen years, some people might
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  Speaker 1: have just found out about you this year. Over the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, I gonna lie a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the guys who, by the way I looked up to
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  Speaker 1: most of them that responded, and by the way, I
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  Speaker 1: won't say or ninety five percent of the people who
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  Speaker 1: responded to me in terms of like OG's they weren't broken, Dusty.
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  Speaker 1: There was five percent that worth though, ain't gonna lie,
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  Speaker 1: But the ninety five cent of them, those guys, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: these are like success stories. But even then y'all admitted
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  Speaker 1: the context I was talking about passing on game, I
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  Speaker 1: was talking about educating the next generation rather than criticizing them.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, sometimes you don't understand why they
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  Speaker 1: might not listen to y'all. One of the reason they
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  Speaker 1: might not listen to y'all, y'all fucked up, whether they're
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  Speaker 1: signed a contract, bad contract, or or whatever like pitfalls
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  Speaker 1: you you kind of get into in this game. You
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  Speaker 1: never passed it on. You never passed that knowledge. So
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  Speaker 1: now when now you're not a DJ, academic doesn't DJ
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  Speaker 1: anymore DJ when you're in college. I still consider myself
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  Speaker 1: a DJ. I got a DJ, be a DJ. No
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  Speaker 1: he does DJ every morning I go in that room
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  Speaker 1: and name and I do my mixes button. So you
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  Speaker 1: so you still DJ? No? No, Well, I don't DJ
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  Speaker 1: professionally anymore. I started out DJ and then I got
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  Speaker 1: into media and then pretty much listen, I'm an entrepreneur
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  Speaker 1: at first, you know what I mean? So I like
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  Speaker 1: people be hemmed up over the DJ name. I'm academics regardless.
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  Speaker 1: So if you want to call me DJA, a big
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  Speaker 1: act name, and that's what it is. So I'm not
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  Speaker 1: over here trying to oh drop the DJ from my name.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still me. When the last time you was up
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  Speaker 1: here with ten years ago, twenty two thirteen. First, so
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  Speaker 1: your first, your first interview ever was with me? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: your first, my first, my first interview outside of like
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  Speaker 1: just talking to regular people was with you. And I remember,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and this is why I give you so
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  Speaker 1: much credit. Like there's there's a lot of backstories to it,
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  Speaker 1: but I want you to explain that back because I
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  Speaker 1: want people to know how long you've been doing this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so twenty thirteen. Um, you know, I'm trying to get
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  Speaker 1: into the media game. You know, I was just never
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  Speaker 1: somebody who Um, I was bad at networking and I'm
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  Speaker 1: still bad a networking because even though I'm I'm quote
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  Speaker 1: quote you know, gained some popularity, a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: don't know me still because I'm not out there shaking
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  Speaker 1: hands hanging around, right. I do mean, if you know
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  Speaker 1: about me, cool, you know, these days, a knee you
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  Speaker 1: could live completely off a niche. I've always thought I
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  Speaker 1: had a niche. So when I see everybody in the
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  Speaker 1: mainstream reaction to the niche, I'm like, oh shit, it's cool.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm anyway back then. I'm just trying to get
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  Speaker 1: interviews with everybody, and I'm just hitting up everybody. I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to like, yo, yo, can I can I sit
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  Speaker 1: down with you for twenty minutes? I make it comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: I'll go to wherever you at and I'm hitting up everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Me and Charlomagne I used to always listen to Breakfast something.
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  Speaker 1: I followed his career and kind of study because I'm
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  Speaker 1: always wanted to study the greats. So I've studied his
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  Speaker 1: career a lot. And you know, I was one of
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  Speaker 1: those people where I'm also not a dick, right, So
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  Speaker 1: I used to try to challenge him, like, nah, you
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  Speaker 1: were wrong here or you know what I mean. And
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  Speaker 1: we kind of developed a rapport on Twitter, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was cool because I didn't know nobody famous, right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn. I didn't want to seem like I
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  Speaker 1: was like asking her begging, and I expected to know.
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  Speaker 1: So one day I just DMed him, I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: I'm starting to do some interviews. Would you let me
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  Speaker 1: interview you? And he actually said, yeah, come up to
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  Speaker 1: the station, don't run around, no nothing, And that was
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  Speaker 1: like one of the realist ship I've ever seen. You
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  Speaker 1: know what, I needed that little room over there right right,
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  Speaker 1: And you know that's how I kind of got my start,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and you know I gave him credit for
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  Speaker 1: that because you know, he was just a real individual.
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  Speaker 1: Like I think a lot of people would have just
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  Speaker 1: turned it down, or a lot of people would just
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  Speaker 1: ignore me, you know what I mean. I think about
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  Speaker 1: that now when you know, I try to still remain
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  Speaker 1: humble and and remember that there's somebody else who's trying
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  Speaker 1: to be me. And also one of the things, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know if you remember this, after we
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  Speaker 1: did the interview, I texted you. I said, listen, I
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  Speaker 1: just want to keep an open line of communication from me,
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  Speaker 1: And that was me asking for mentorship. Basically say I'm
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  Speaker 1: not I'm not going to abuse the fact that you
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  Speaker 1: gave me a chance to talk to you and I
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  Speaker 1: got your number and be like, yo, I get a job,
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  Speaker 1: but at night, I don't know now how night i'm
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  Speaker 1: powered up, whatever the case is. No, I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to handouts, but I would love if you see me
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  Speaker 1: doing something for you to be like nah or yo,
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  Speaker 1: hey you could do it better here, just kind of
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  Speaker 1: give me mentorship. It's very important for anybody who's coming
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  Speaker 1: up in the game. He did that, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, in a lot of situations over the years,
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  Speaker 1: he's always reached out and just show me a lot
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  Speaker 1: of loving. You know, I hope that I've not only reciprocated,
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  Speaker 1: but also I look at it for other people coming
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  Speaker 1: in the game, you know what I mean again, going
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  Speaker 1: back to some of the things that people are mad
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  Speaker 1: at me about. Granted, the broken dusty thing is triggering,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's it seems very naturally
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  Speaker 1: it is very disrespectful, so you immediately disrespectful. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if if I call him nigga broken dusty, it like
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  Speaker 1: it's not there's no way to say, oh, this is great.
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  Speaker 1: But but I wasn't told about everybody. It was a
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  Speaker 1: four our conversation basically saying, you feel that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these older artists, Yeah, and I'll even take it
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  Speaker 1: outside of older artists, older DJs should look out for
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  Speaker 1: the people coming up so they don't do the same
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  Speaker 1: thing that they did, the pitfalls that they did. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta pass the ball and also, like you know, when
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  Speaker 1: we think about it, even our legends of pioneer. Because
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  Speaker 1: Ella responded, and I want to sleut to Lla. I
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  Speaker 1: think you know, um, everything he said was right, So
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  Speaker 1: let me, let me, let me put that out on
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  Speaker 1: the table. I agree one percent with everything he said. However,
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  Speaker 1: eighty percent of what he said wasn't focused on what
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  Speaker 1: I was saying because he got off center. He said, well,
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  Speaker 1: you're equating money to contribution and like like respect and
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  Speaker 1: all that. That's not what I was saying. That's not
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  Speaker 1: what I was saying at all. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I'm never like questioning the contribution or you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not appreciating the contribution of anyone who came before me,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm never saying that money is the only thing
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  Speaker 1: that validates that contribution. I was more so and again
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  Speaker 1: you know the way I used my platform. I try
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  Speaker 1: to be very transparent. That's what gets me in trouble too.
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  Speaker 1: I'm mad transparent, Like I let people know what's really
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  Speaker 1: going on behind these industry doors as the best that
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  Speaker 1: I know, the best everything I hear and see, so
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  Speaker 1: I could educate somebody else. Because I was a super fan.
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  Speaker 1: I was sitting at home listening to the Breakfast Club
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  Speaker 1: every fucking morning, wondering is that real? Is this? Like?
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  Speaker 1: What's the real ship going on? So like, once I
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  Speaker 1: got fortunate enough to kind of like peek through the
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  Speaker 1: window and then I saw through the crack of the door,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm trying to has that knowledge along. I don't
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  Speaker 1: see that a lot in a hip hop I don't
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  Speaker 1: think people be passing the knowledge along. I thought you
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  Speaker 1: asked the valid question, and the valid question is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if if you invented hip hop, if you wanted the
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  Speaker 1: founders of hip hop, why are you not financially well off?
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  Speaker 1: Now we know all answered that, and he gave some
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  Speaker 1: great reasons. So the next thing to me is how
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  Speaker 1: do we make sure that these founding fathers are taking
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  Speaker 1: care of financially? I agree. I mean, listen, and it's interesting,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I listened to your response to it, and
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  Speaker 1: you're you're right. I think anytime I bring up any
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  Speaker 1: valid points in hip hop, granted, I'm gonna keep saying
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: that the if you only go for that clip, you're
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: just gonna take um offense to it. And I understand that,
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  Speaker 1: but usually people just attack me, like people don't want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about these real, real conversations. Yeah, they don't
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about Okay, all right, cool, y'all have
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  Speaker 1: y'all whole week. Everybody responded to me y'all cracked yat
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  Speaker 1: jokes back, I got it. Cool, I'm taking it. But
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  Speaker 1: let's further the conversation now, or we do a talk
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  Speaker 1: about the actual conversation and we're down to talk about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, helping out some of these guys who are
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  Speaker 1: some of the founding fathers, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Like it shouldn't take the guy you hate or the
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  Speaker 1: guy who's irrelevant, the guy who didn't know to actually
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  Speaker 1: bring up the conversation about well, a lot of the pioneers, well,
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  Speaker 1: some of their business weren't in order, um shoot, financially
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  Speaker 1: they should be doing what way well off compared to
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  Speaker 1: like what's actually going on for some I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: at all, right, And I don't know if people want
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  Speaker 1: to have those conversations, do you but do you feel like,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure you do, do you feel like the
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  Speaker 1: industry never wants to have a conversation. It always wants
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  Speaker 1: to attack you. Because when Russell Simmons, you know, said
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  Speaker 1: what he said, right yeah out in Bali, your reply was,
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  Speaker 1: we could have this conversation, but you have to have
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  Speaker 1: a conversation with me about the ship that you're doing too.
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  Speaker 1: That's a stab back. That's a that's a stab. That
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  Speaker 1: wasn't you know. Let me talk to Russ. That was like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Russ, I got you. But because no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't even really can't because again I think
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  Speaker 1: we've beaten that horse too. So I'm not the nigga
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  Speaker 1: trying to I ain't trying to handible birds to ship
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  Speaker 1: back around, you know. You know what i mean. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just saying I always I always say this. I've been
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  Speaker 1: trying to live by this, you know model a bit
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  Speaker 1: a little more. I'm like, if you're gonna dig, if
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: you're gonna dig a grave for somebody, make sure you
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  Speaker 1: dig one one for yourself to him. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? This whole, this whole thing where we all
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  Speaker 1: attack one person, just remember it's gonna be your day.
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  Speaker 1: It's all the circular fires, absolutely all of it. I've
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  Speaker 1: had weeks where I see, oh, we all jump at him.
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  Speaker 1: I fuck it, well, I know some shit about him too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, get jump before well physically with you one top.
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  Speaker 1: But so once it was my week, and that's what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's not my first week. I was just like,
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: all right, cool, I'm gonna taking this week. It's cool.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody was doing well. Let's say you're good mentally. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine, but we should probably advance the conversations.
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  Speaker 1: We're not good with having conversations, Like I'll give another
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: thing that they usually try to jump me on. They're like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: will you built your brand off exploiting the depth of
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: black kids in it like Chicago? Right now, here's a
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  Speaker 1: bigger here's a bigger discussion. Okay, cool, cool, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: got me for the week. I got me for those moments.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: I said, are we gonna talk about you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? The effect like we just had Rolled Aloud.
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  Speaker 1: They took like five drill rappers off of it. There's
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: mad killings that are happening because of music that are
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: that's actually promoting the ship. We look on DSPs, those
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  Speaker 1: songs are at the top of playlists. Are we gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about those bigger issues or no, let's put the
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: band aid over that. Let's attack act. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: only saying I'm the only person that gets attacked. I'm
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: just saying, could anybody bring up some valid points in
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  Speaker 1: hip hop and actually have serious discussions? And by the way,
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: that's why I'm down to talk to LLL and and
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to Ti reached out too. You know,
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: he Ta is hilarious. Tia was like trying to talk
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: to me and say said, Yo, listen man, my birthday
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  Speaker 1: festivities starts today. Yeah. Yeah, but we don't have an
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  Speaker 1: official talk today. I mean it was birthday, so you know,
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: we don't want to do too much. But um yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I told you too, I hate you this weekend.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: I said, you know, tone is gonna cause people that's
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  Speaker 1: not hear you either. That's a fact, because that's why
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I know you're not going to talk to
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  Speaker 1: LLL like that in person. And and I understand when
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  Speaker 1: when you're when you're performing, it's performative, right, Okay, but
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  Speaker 1: if you was actually talking to LLL, I was staying
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  Speaker 1: on every point conversation, I would stay on everybody. I
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  Speaker 1: believe my points wouldn't change. Yeah, you know what I mean,
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: even when people saw when I'm um, when I got
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: like my first big opportunity I guess in the quot
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  Speaker 1: unquote industry, like when I got on everybody struggle. Yeah,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: obviously as a different way of like you know, um communicating,
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  Speaker 1: then my stream. So yeah, the tone changed. But even
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  Speaker 1: if I was wrong or quote unquote wrong to most
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  Speaker 1: people about any point, I still stood on it, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. So again, of course I'm on
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  Speaker 1: the stream, which, by the way, as a broadcast, I've
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: been learning that a lot, like you know this recent
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  Speaker 1: thing about um, you know, even with with with with Toya,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: I did a tone check before because I knew that
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: was gonna get lost in it, you know what I mean.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna get lost in it. But
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: I do have to say, like you know, this is
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: a newer medium which I think a lot of peop
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: are should be understanding. A live stream, a live stream
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: discussing hip hop topics, okay, and this is a and
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: I do it on Twitch and you're drinking and I'm drinking.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: But also I'm trying to entertain people, Like when it's
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: you versus the whole feeling, it's just use a microphone, nigga,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: you better be funny. You've been as some jokes. You
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: better be You gotta be a little theatric. You can't
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: just be there just monotones. She ain't gonna work. So
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: at times when you're discussing things, right, if it's clipped,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: and my clips always either look super hilarious or damn,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: he's disrespectful, you know what I mean? Now I have
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: spirited the base. I really love hip hop. I love
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: this culture, you know what I mean. It's giving me everything,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: it's allowing me to time my mom. I love it.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: But I'm passionate, and that's why I'm trying to learn
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: as a broadcaster. But even then it's hard to control.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Where I could just immediately know that, oh, they're gonna
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: clip this part. Get your tone in check. You do
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: understand why toy is mad though of course even all right,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear a clip because it was it was
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: so and what reference did you call her daughter a bitch?
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: If you ever called a bit? Okay, so I didn't
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: necessarily refer to her as a bitch. I was speaking about, right, um,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: a public relationship that's been posting on Shade Room and
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: everywhere else. And that's another thing everybody keeps saying, you'll
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: act while you're comment on these things. We're in an
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: age that people are monetizing a relationship. You can't, like
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I monetize my life and if I share stuff, I can't.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: But you show me why you talked about that dog.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: That's facts. Now, granted, there's sensitive areas there, and that's
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: where I wanted to make sure when I addressed in
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: my tone was right. Number one, she's a black woman, right, Toya,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: and of course reginate right. I was extrapolating from commenting
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: directly on that relationship to making a larger point. I'll
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: try to break it down simply. And it was really
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: also I'm riffing. I'm cracking jokes, cracking jokes, okay. And
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I even said it on the I think she had
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: shade you posted and I said, I said, listen, it
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: was a joke. And by the way I did say
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: the B word, I attracted it. One second later I
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: said I shouldn't say that because her name was slightly
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: associated with it. Right, So I was talking about regin day,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I said, it's kind of interesting and funny. I'm cracking jokes, yo.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: She was with wife and Lucy Couerto Rico. She smooth
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: just dipped on that dude. She got like the opposite
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: of like his archetype, which which I'm just saying, a gangster, right,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I know a lot of And that's when
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I used the word. I know a lot of the
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: B words, and I said, I shouldn't say that. A
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: lot of women who do the same thing. Do you
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: get what I mean? Yeah, the B word is a conundrum, right,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: because it's it's like the N word. Um. You know,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: when you use it the way you used it, or
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: when you hear it in music, it doesn't bother you.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: But if somebody called your MoMA, that a woman that
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: you loved, that, now you're up in arm. So I even,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: you know, even when you see the rappers getting upset,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, y'all, I use that's another thing. You see,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: that's another But I get it though, I get it
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: from both. I get I understand both sides. I will
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: say this, right, you use the word so much it
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: frequently just comes out. But he didn't say that bitch
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: this day. But if he said that bitch, oh, let me,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: let me I apologize. I shouldn't use that. I don't
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: think we should use the word at all. And you know,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: it's funny say he didn't say it like that. He
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: cleared himself, cleared it up. And by the way you say,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: out of here, it's asking immediately like as soon as
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: it's as I shouldn't say that, and then and I
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: said like women or something that was definitely much more appropriate.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: But here's the point. And just because I know people
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: don't even want to have these discussions, they rather just say,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: even though you cleared it up a second earlier, and
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: we don't like you this week. And this is a
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: perfect clip. By the way, Toya said, listen, I don't
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: know if I told you that you act like a bitch.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: And you know what I said, because she was like,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: don't talk about don't talk about my child like that.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like that, but you're talking about my mama child
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: like you told about me. Like, like, listen, first of all,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not commented on a kid here like she's twenty
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: three years of age. She's she's having a public relationship.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: And by the way, I commented on this a lot,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I think people also think, um and maybe I'm having
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: a problem with this. I don't know if y'all do.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I still look at shit like the nigga in the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: comments saction and I still comment on shit because I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: don't and also granted, because I don't know these people,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm not trying to be disrespectful but I'm also
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: not sugarcoat and shit like, oh no this is you
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: know you could I could comment on Aria money back yo,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: but this right here, Oh no, now you can't talk
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: about it. I talk about everything, just like when if
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: you read a comment sation on the shade Room my
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: my Instagram, niggas in there giving up, but they tell
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you what they really feel. I'd still be out here talk.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I talk like but when you have a child, right, yeah,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Like I mean like my family talked about me all
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: day and you know they make jokes about me all
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: day left right up down. I'm gay this week. I'm
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: not gay this week. Me and Charlota made's dating this week.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I don't care. But don't don't bring me in this.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I'm bringing you be gay on okay. But when it
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: comes to outside of that, somebody might think it's a joke.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Even with Jesus and Merrill, they thought it was a joke.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't play with my Wife's different what I'm saying
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: that's different. I would you consider your wife is a
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: public figure? You could because you want we wrote a book.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Well at that time she was, she was not a
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: public figure. Don't think so. If I'm talking about one
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: of Charlotmagne kids who nobody knows. And by the way,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I'm getting they're probably like under eighteen. It's different than
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: you have a relative like for example, I even example, right,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: my mom. I just retired her UM and she told me,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: she said, well, Son, you know I'm a Jamaican mom.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I gotta keep busy. I know you're gonna give me money,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: this and third, but I need to do something. So
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: she told me, she said, I want to do a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel. And I'm talking her out of it. Hell no,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I said, hell, you know what I mean, unless you
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: can handle that, Unless you can handle it the slander
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that your mom is gonna get because of you. But
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: it depends on what the channel. No no, no, she's
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: cooking cooking channel. No no, no, don't matter. They're they're
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna know it's my mom trust me. And
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: that's what the conversation is. I'm trying to say, Mom,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I've shielded my entire family from all the hate and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: vitriol I get online because I signed up for this.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I would rather you not get into that life because
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: just off proximity to me, you're gonna have to deal
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: with some hate ridicule, And honestly, if you want to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: be a public figure by now getting into this life,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: it's fair game. So you know how I can control it,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: my nah, Let's try and figure out something else. Because
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the moment she started, she starts doing that. She's a
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: public figure, especially when you're sharing your life. So so
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: what dad said, you know, you wouldn't want somebody to
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: talk about your mom the way you might talk about
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: somebody other people. Right. No, it's not that I wouldn't
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: want them to talk about it, right, because that's not
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the thing. It's just like, well, could you handle that though?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: You heard somebody calling your mom to be work, Well,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: if my mom is a public figure, I would absolutely
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: have to handle it. Yeah, absolutely, if she is a
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: public figure, yes, say my mom gets an argument, Say
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: my mom is becomes a public figure, and she's on
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: with these housewives shows. She loves those little shows, right,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and now she does something and whatever the air in
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: the chatter is is that they're calling my mom to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: be word. By the nature of knowing what this comes
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: with it, we're all monetizing off our lives, our brands. Shit,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: that's public. We're monetizing for the clicks. We're monetizing for
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the conversation. Let's not be hypocrites to say you could
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: only control the conversation. You gotta keep it nice with
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: my mom's No, my mom gotta be able to handle
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the number one. And by the way, it's much more
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: than me. Handler's my mom. I've had ten years of
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: training people, people coming about my weight all the time.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I'm numb to it. I'm numb to it. At first,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I was in my feelings for real, of course, not
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: because they're excessive. Like all my people, they be all this.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: It should be funny though, act and when I go
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: to your page, be funny and ship. But not for
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: black man, the black Man. You gotta lot some weight.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Stop drinking so much. Bro, you go no, no, not
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: not with a drinking. But you're definitely hard drinking. And
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: wait you got you got no. No the drinking. I
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: think it's decent the way what you mean blacking out?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I keeps out on the screen. That's not because liquor.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Though I'm tired. Yo, I told you I sleep four
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: hours four hours a night, and I'll sleep two to
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: three in the middle of the day. That's why I
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: don't stream a nice. No more like my audience wants
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: me to streaming nice like even when when I slept,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I fell asleep. I fell asleep while I listened to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the Drake album You Not Drake hit Me and he said, yo,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Drake hit me and say yo, act oh, please listen
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: to this one private. Least it don't go a stream
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and do the first listen. But no, no, it was
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: it was a Little Boy Okay. I listened to it
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: once and on my stream we played again, so it
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: was the second listen and I fell asleep album. That
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: album was delayed. Bro, it's three forty five in the morning.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I were listening to music. That's nothing I would like
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: about me, Yo, three forty five in the morning. I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: know I catered to super fans, but like, Bro, that's
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: why I'm tired, man, And like you know, you have
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: to be energetic the whole time. I'm like, man, I'm tired,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: so I'm listening to the music so it's passive. I'm
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: not talking. There's no adrenaline kicking, and I'm like, I
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: don't even know what I'm sleeping. Sorry, right, let's go
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: back to the women think because me and you had
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: this convo a couple of years ago. I think it
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: was around the Chrissy teguing thing, and we was on
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: the phone talking and I was like, you know, and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I hate to see people making the same mistakes that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, So I was telling you, like, yo, you
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: cannot be disrespecting these these women like you gotta go
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: easy with the bitches and the holes and this and that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: By the way, the Chrissy tigueing thing was, I believe,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I think, very different than this. You know, I don't
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: even remember what it was well exactly that was aimed
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: at her, and that was definitely very like you know
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you called too right, Yeah, it was hateful too, you
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think that's the thing because
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: let's think about all these cloth kill worlds we use, right,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: somebody might just be on some holistic ships to say,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, should stop say nigga, but you could you
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: could use nigga an all type of different contexts, right,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: same with the word bitch. It's a lot of people
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: who use bitch in a positive way, in a negative way.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: When I used it for her, and that's why I
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: did apologize, it was very hateful, and it was because
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I felt she slighted me. At one point, and at
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that time I was just like super upset. How so um,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: you know, and by the way, I hate to even
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: explain it. These are one of these things where like
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I treat it almost like DV in a way. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: know I'm getting a little deep, but like, it don't
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: matter if short he hits you, you can't do nothing back.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: You just gotta take it anyway. A couple of years before, um,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: she says something to me, Oh, six nine just went
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: to jail. That's what happened. Just when a jail everybody's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: getting their jokes in She throws up on her on
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: her on a Twitter a meme with me and six
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: nine looking sexual and basically putting out it like we
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: gay or something. Shit feel me not granted, I'm Jamaican,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I was born in Jamaican. I mean, that's not some
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: shit we you know, especially if it's not true. You know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: we have none against you know, people from the LGBTQ community.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: But that was not true. And you also trying to
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: make a joke of you know somebody, I know that
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: when in jail, and also you're trying to you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: put this out about me like whatever. She did it
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: like twice. I ain't saying nothing in the moment because
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: really and everybody roasting six nights, but it happened. But
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I held it, and I held that until it all
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: came out that one night of the stream when I
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: saw John Legend flop and I'm seeing her tweet every
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: two days trying to cancel another motherfucker, and I'm like,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: why don't you promote your man album, just like how
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you be on Twitter doing a whole lot of bullshit.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: But obviously that's when those words came out. Now, granted,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and this is why I said. There was some growth,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: by the way, thank you. We we had a great
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: talk about that. There was some growth in the sense
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: of I know when when you know she was being
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: canceled as well, and I remember that everybody started circle
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: back around coming to me, but like, yo, what do
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you feel about it? And I said, you know, having
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: being that person who that was another bad week, I
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: understood what she was going went through, you know what
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I understood like a lot of people were
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: laughing when she said, well, you know, I'm depressed, like
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I have to turn my phone off, but I'm depressed
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: without it. And I felt bad for her more than
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you know, UM, thinking that, oh, you know what, finally
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: she's getting what you know I felt at that moment,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: so you know, UM, in that sense, I was super
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: hateful with it. And that's the only reason why I
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: say it's different. Um. I think they're taking this one
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit out of context, just because yes, I
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: did use the word, which, by the way, it was
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: interesting when people did get mad at me. At first
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: some people were like, oh, it's because you were used
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: were bitch, and then everybody got everybody just saying bitch
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: all over the place, because it does matter the context.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: It definitely does, right, and we can't all be like, oh, Aq,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: you said the word bitch. Let's just erase bitch. Because
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: here's the thing I'm down for. Any rules, is everybody
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: gonna stop saying it? We should, well, all the rappers
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: stop rapping, and and and because by the way, here's
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the thing, and I didn't want to flip it to
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: this angle. Neither the reason why I already said this
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: about the word nigga. I was born in Jamaica Spanish time, Jamaica.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: The first time, the first time I cognizantly ever heard
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the word nigga was in the United States of America,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: and that ship has been littered in my vocabulary through
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: learning it socially, through music and other methods that you
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: get indoctrinated to it. Same with I won't say the
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: word bit soho, but but like no, I think we
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: also got to think about the cultural influences to why
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: when we're talking, why do we just constantly sprinkle these things?
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: They're like condiments to our conversation, to our theatrics. So granted,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I'll take certain blames, but if we are, we're gonna
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: have a bigger discussion about the words. Because a lot
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: of the times I heard that word being said, I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: heard have been saying to my favorite Wayne Verse the
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: question have you spoke to Chrissy since then? Or are
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: youstion with toy? Because obviously she's upset and I'm sure
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: she would love to have a conversation with you. I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: would love that conversation. I would love to have a
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: conversation with Chrissy. Well, well, I never talk to kids
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: about it, and I would love to have a conversation
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: with um um toya. And you didn't mean no, you
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: apologize to you calling her daughter bitch? Oh of course not.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I'm cracking. I'm cracking some lighthearted jokes. I think she's
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: a I think she's a brilliant, fine young woman. I
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: don't think she's like she's this. I'm not trying to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: be hateful. Have you apologized her yet? Though, I mean
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: in the sense of saying I'm sorry I use the
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: word at all. Yes, I mean, I'll apologize, and of
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: course I'm sorry, now the great there's no time like
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the president, no no, if if she's taken it in
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: that sense offensively, I do apologize, But I do have
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: to say because I don't want to apologize for something
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that you know, I don't want the next time I
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: hear me say the word bitch, because it's used in
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: mad different contexts, I'm like, didn't you just apologize? I'll
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: be a hypocrite, so I'm not trying to hurt her feeling.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: So that's the apology I'll give. I apologize if my
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: usage of that word, even though I try to attract it,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: made you feeling type of way that was, and vice versa.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: The people who are offended at act using that word,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: especially the rappers, they should think about that too. Next
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: time they're in the studio and they write nay rhymes.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: They don't want to have that conversation, but we should.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I think now if I think neither times, I can't
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: push y'all got ya ya ya gotta wanna be t
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Wards say yeah with the biggest platform. Hey, y'all start
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: that conversation. Let's see, because y'all could bring some of
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: these guys who don't respect me. They don't. They're rather just.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: And that's what I was gonna say with with Toya,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I would love to, you know, have a conversation with her.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: And I think I'm really having a conversation. I won't
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: say with her, but I think through a conduit. I
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: think that's why TI is stepping in. You get what
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I mean. But I've always been open a conversation with anyone.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: They could check my track record. Usually it's people who say, oh,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: we ain't gonna talk to you. We'll put up a post,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: but we won't. We don't want to, like, we don't
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: even want to engage in a conversation. Funk Flex and
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Slew the Flex. I don't if I'll be but but
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Slot the Flex Flex call me. Had a whole conversation
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: with him. Pull me on text with a bunch of people,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: it's like he's like, I want to bridge someone understanding.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: And he also made a post on Instagram saying, Yo,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: he's trying to bridge some under standing through conversations. And
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: you know what, the majority of people said, why the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: fuck would you talk to that clown? What could you
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: at that point? What could you do? So if that's
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: how they see that, it puts me in a weird spot.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Y'all are focused on what I say. Y'all care about
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: what I say. But if I and I always I
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: was telling my brother yesterday because he's like, yo, damn, YO,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: you said something else, and I had to tell him.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I said, listen, I do about maybe fifty hours fifty
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to sixty hours of live audio or audio, you know,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: whether it's YouTube, podcast, you know my news updates per week.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Extrapolate that to a year. I'm gonna say some shit that,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, maybe I thought it was a joke.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: People didn't think it was a joke. And I hope
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to just deal with it as it goes. But there
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: is no way I could just not offend anyone in
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: this world, not now. I think. I think another thing
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: that's missing too, is like as rappers are just us
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: in hip hop have gotten older. You know when you
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: when you know better, you do better. You know, you
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: get older. We got kids, we get wiser. But the
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: problem is we haven't held ourselves accountable for the things
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: that we used to do or used to say that
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: may be influencing a thirty year old person like yourself.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: But also that's why when we had the conversation on that,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard it, the first thing
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I said was we need to talk to him. Let's
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: let's call him up and bring him up here and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: have that conversation, because that's what I did, Remember I
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: told you, But I did the same thing because I
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: felt the same way. I was upset about something and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I used it. So I'm never upset with somebody. I
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: always want to know why, huh. Now. I used to
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: call it when me and Flex and everybody was gonna
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I used to call him old in that and Kickapre
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: pulled up on me and was like, bro, we all
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: have ages. We all get to a point. You never
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: want to box somebody else. We all a birthday, we
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: all got a birthday. It stuck with me and I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: was like, you're right, I'll never say that again. You know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I'll go at anybody well, but I'll never use that
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: age again, call them dusty or whatever it may be,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: because you can't be mad at somebody for not having
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the knowledge, because it's got to be confusing when rappers
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: start telling rappers start coming at you for using the
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: B word because then you're like, well, when did the
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: memo go out there? We're not using the B word
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: no more in hip hop? Correct? You know? So I
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: want to go back to also meek mil why don't
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: you meet meal get along? Where did that start? I
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: made me cool? Y'are good? Now? We're good? Now? No,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I believe we're good. You never know, so a wise
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: man told me. Man, listen, you don't ever know if
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: you're really good with someone to you see them in person.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But didn't talk watch that
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: everything that you had. Yeah, so I want to think
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and these are people, you know. I hope to do
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: this for other people too. You know, some people think
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I'm an agitator, but you know, in the last year
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: when I've been able to try to bridge gaps or
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: like you know, put two people on the phone or whatever,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: like I try. You know, I mean, shit, I did
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: it with you know lad at least trap of which
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: random beef, Like I try to help men that I
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: was trying to help this you know, NBA young boy
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: in UM not Dirk, but the NBA young boy in
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: UM Kodak situation. UM, because like, especially when you're playing
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: phone tag almost one saying this one saying that, I'm like, yo, listen,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: is there a way we could put it together? So
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I've always kind of been been that time of person.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: UM twenty one Savage did something. I thought it was
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: very dope, and he gave me this explanation. He said, Yo,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I think it was getting to a point. He's like
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: when two friends are going at it, if it goes
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: far enough, you got to pick a side. And he
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: basically said it was going it was going to a
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: point where he was going to be forced to like, yore,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you're really rocking with this nigga accord or you're rocking
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: over here, you know what I mean. And he put
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: us on the phone, and I got a slew to
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Meek as well, because I don't think a younger Meek
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Mill would have been on the phone with me, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I think Meek has shown a little bit of growth
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: so I was down to have a conversation with him.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: For like four or five years, you know what I mean,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Like we've been on dms, but it's never been like
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: a real conversation. We did have a real conversation, and
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: it was one of like, you know, um, let's stop
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: the petty bullshit to each other and let's if if
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna be going all the way with it,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: let's try to mend and build towards something that could
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: be like amicable. And don't mean that we're going to
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: be best friends in the club popping bottles, but we
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be at each other's next, especially when you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: not necessarily, like our paths have to intertwine, you know
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: what I mean. So again I thought I was a
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: grown man discussion and I enjoyed it, and I appreciate
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: twenty one Savage for facilitating. But did somebody come to
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: your house and leave a note in your mailbox? Yeah?
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: That bumass singer Rory Man. So all right, so you're
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Rory of Beef and he came to your house. We
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: were beef. What's beef though? I mean, somebody come to
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: your house is beef? Okay? Somebody coming to thank you,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Come to the house. Okay, not only is
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: the dog coming out? Yeah, I'm letting everything out. That
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: dog is coming. I'm letting So what happened in that? Yeah?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: So no so to me. And that's another thing I've realized.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: This is strength of Like when I'm on live stream,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I treat it like eventually I was telling shows. I
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: was like, one day, I want to get up on
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: stage because sometimes I'll be watching my own streams back.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I'm funny as fuck, you know what I mean. So
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I'm on there, I'm roasting everybody, and sometimes people have
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: a disagreement. But I don't want you to die or
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want to kill you. I don't want to
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: thrink your life. But I got some jokes maybe, like
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I want to just cloud your
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: beard or your chain or whatever the cases. So I'm
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: clowning these guys, right. It was ruing this other dude
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: name me Lym on whatever there was Joe Bunn's employees,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: and the jokes were staying so crazy, and I the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: whole time, I'm thinking, what if they feel that offense,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: They're gonna respond this mad things to cloud me about
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: like come on, like, if you can't clown me, it's
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: just not creative. Didn't respond over a while, so I'm
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: over here. I'm just having a good time. I'll showed
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: one time to my mailbox, see a Hallmark card and
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: it had like some very interesting notation, was like hey,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: happy boss today. And I was calding these dudes workers
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: and stooges for a long time. They signed the thing
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: and says, oh, sincerely a stooge or whatever the case is.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: This time, me and Meeker going at the tour and
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: there's other rappers. Because I'm always like, you know, respond
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: to some rappers. I have no idea who this is.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Who did this? Right, even though there was some kind
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: of hints like damn, who did this? I look at
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: my security cameras. Thank god, that's the first one I
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: bought my house, the first thing I did. I got
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the best security cameras, absolutely alive. Anyway, I see a
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: fucking Kia pull into my cul de sac, a Kia,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: fucking Kia, my nigga, like a Kia Sorrento or something
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: like that. Nigga. The only thing, the only thing that
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: was a little weird. I'm like, yo, the maids usually
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: don't show up on this day. I'm like, this, ain't
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the postman, you know what I mean? Like this, So
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the Kia drives up and it drives right by my mailbox,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: so there's a long driveway down right, so it's not
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like he's knocking on my door. It actually doesn't even
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: enter the property. But like FedEx or whoever, it could
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: just drop up of shit in the mailbox. They the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: door swings open. I see fucking ginger headed dude just
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: kind of pop out and he reaches in, opens the mailbox,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: puts the thing in, and then the car tries to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: speed off, but it's a kya so it's taking a
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: while to spool up. But I'm like, oh, that's the
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: dude still doesn't say anything because I'm trying to figure
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: out how should I handle it, you know what I mean.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: And a lot of things, by the way, you know,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I don't bring everything to the internet as much as
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: people think I do. There's been people who have. There's
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: been a lot of threats or situations that I'm just
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: not gonna run on line, like let me just show
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: you what's going on. You gotta handle the situation personally.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: And probably first I guess he was trying to threaten me.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: So one day he tweeted at me and I get
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: back to roast in him, and he started doing the
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: weirdest shit, which he's just self snitched on himself. He
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: tweeted out my zip code in five tweets with the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: first number of the tweet being one number of where
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I live, basically been go I know you live at
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and also the Stews actually even signed the lyric steoge.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: So at that point, I just, you know, all the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: best are off. You know, um gangsters man. Not mean
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't show up to your house. I'm trying to
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: kill you. That's what I'm saying. Like, God, that's how
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I would have to take it. If you pull up
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: to my house. I have to think it's a threat.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: That's why when did with your arms or whatever you did,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I gotta think it's a threat, an active threat. And
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: then when I talk to them dudes, and it was
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: just this was just the most It's the most, even
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: though I got to call it the most pussy thing
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen, because he was like, you know, I'm
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: going hard at him still, you know, um, there's some
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: other stuff that happened. Apparently you know, he was like engaged.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, his side chick happen to
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: come over to the crib one time. You know what
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, My man's piped his side. It was a
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on. His relationship got broken up.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of stuff anyway, I guess you know
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: what I mean. He wanted to like try to resolve it,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: and we were talking through a few mutual people because
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: he wanted to talk to me. That's what I heard.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Um directly. I just wasn't withining them. You can't show
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: to my house and like then you're like, let's talk
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: if I drop a pipe bomb on the steps to
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: your house and then you happily or luckily like, don't
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: refuse it. I can't hit your playing like your envy.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about this, bro. No, so Um I said,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't have conversations with a man who's
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: doing these type of thing. You don't even know who
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: lives at my house. Say my MoMA lived there, Say
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: like an older relative, say there's kids there. You're playing
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: a dangerous game. He's gonna he's gonna tell a person. Yo.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: It wasn't me that did it. It was really my girl.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: My girl got guying these killers who want acts head
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: all type of dumb shit, and just a matter of
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: fact that not acknowledging that it's you and blaming on
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: your girl, I just realized its just some weak shit man.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: So you know, Um that didn't make you think about
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: how you move differently though, because you know, if it's
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: that easy for somebody to find out where you live
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: and pull up on you, of course I think about
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: that every day. Um shit, shit happens all the time.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: You know. My usually my people around me, like my family,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: they'll be more spooped. But you know, I just try
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: to just move a little bit better. And you know, again,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: we are making conscious decisions for this life. That's that's
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: one thing. You know. I learned that from you, because
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you know, again, I could have also just ran to
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere and just lived in a bunker.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: But um shit, I like a couple of nice cars. Shit,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I bought some jurry Like nigga, you're gonna have to
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: deal with some consequences or you're gonna have to adjust
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: to make sure that you're okay now. Joe Button also
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: criticized you releasing the PMB interview yeah, a couple of
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: days after his passing. Yeah, what were your thoughts on that?
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Joe's my man, And I think I think Joe primarily
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: did that because he just got an Adam twenty two.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I think Adam dropped like a video like someone died
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: and he put like a video with the guy who
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: like meet the guy who killed blah blah blah. Right,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and I thought I think Joe was saying that was
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: tasteless among other things when dealing with death. Um, I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: think this was completely different. So PM b Rock, you know,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: tragically and unfortunately, you know, passed away in lad Yeah,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: when somebody try to like, you know, rob him. The
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: same week, we do an interview where he's talking about
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: a similar situation that almost happened. I remember asking, I said,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: so damn, why do you think that happened like that?
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: He's like, man, I don't know the timing of it.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I think number one, it was newsworthy, So so it's different.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I don't like when people are just trying to monetize
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: off death, but I think that's newsworthy. That's adds to
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: what's going on, because maybe this just isn't random. Oh
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean it's it's not even it's
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: not even a hip hop thing. Every media outlet does this.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's CNN, NBC, ABC. When somebody
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: passes away, they got their mintages and packages and old
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: videos and pictures and old interviews. Everybody does it. I
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: think I think in hip hop media, um, I like
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: to say new and independent media is treats. It's differently
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: because Revolt could run you know what I mean, the
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: oldest interview or freestyle they have of P and B Rocking.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like they're paying homage, you know what
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like they're showing love. If you do the same,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: they're thinking, oh, you're making man money off of him,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: like you just exploiting. So I do think there's a
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: new state of the TV networks. What do you think
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: advertising advertisings are When they do these specials where they
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: played the funeral back or they send for Queen Elizabeth,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: they sent all their journalists over to the UK, like
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing what we do, or like what
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I'm successful they're doing. And I like to call it
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I want to Draymond Graem myself on some new media ship.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: But I do think these new platforms are becoming so popular.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Like some people are looking at certain podcasts or just
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: certain blogs or certain you know, certain YouTube channels as oh,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: these are like they're almost as loud, you know, at
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: least within certain aspects of the culture like a revolt,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And I think people are extra critical of them because
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: you also can see a face to it, you know,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, even though the d he is kind of
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: face revolt, it still a whole corporation. You don't even
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: think about some of the stuff that you think about.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: When act post is it right posts? You're like, oh shit,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: so you mean the act just made this decision. And
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: also for whatever reason, people feel like it's wrong that
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: people in new media make money. I don't know what
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: it is, you know what I mean. So it's like again,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I try, I try to understand it from their point
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: of view. Like for me, I would never exploit in
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the sense of, um, there's where you could be you
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: could exploit, like you know what I mean. For example,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: if I if I had a moment or a negative
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: moment of that said artist, and if we're passing it,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: we're gonna show remembrance. And I'm just throwing that back
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: up just to get some clicks because now everybody want
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: to get I think that's exploited. I wouldn't. I looked
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: at it from a different perspective too. It's like, you know,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: God bless the brother PN b Rock. But you know,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: at the time, musically he wasn't like popping, but you
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: still sat down with him and you still had a
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: conversation with him. I didn't see nobody else doing that.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Oh that's another thing. And this is why you know,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I was left kind of um. I was torn on
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: that because you know, there's so many people who or
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: who were fake when it comes to that shit. Yo.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I sat on the phone with P and B like
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: they just got off Atlantic Atlantic dropping mad people. They
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: just got off Atlantic, like bare bones, completely independent. You know,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: we set this interview up for months. We've been talking
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: through like Yo, he's like, Yo, he's playing this comeback,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. Nobody's fucking with him, Artists
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: who used to be popping bottles in a club where
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: they ain't fucking when they tell him, literally, you ain't
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: hot right now, you know what I mean? Nobody wants
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: to be associated with him. If you watch the whole interview,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: he's like you'll act. One thing I do like about you.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: You just always supporting me. Twenty and eighteen, when I
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: dropped my album when everybody was like, oh this ain't
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: this ain't the best shit, and I didn't do that
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: well you want everyday struggle. At the end of the year,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Recap told hm, not this one of the hardest albums.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: This shit is fire. I'm you support me legit legitimately.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Right once he dies, everybody's now like, you know, like
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: like they were caring about PNB Rock mad pretentious, you
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um, but I don't want that
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: to be the subject of the conversation because it is
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: really you know, a young black man lost his life.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: That's the most important thing. But there's a lot of
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: people who are really pretentious with that, you know what
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like they're acting like I just hold a
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: P and b Rock interview out of my ass from
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: when he was popping and no none, no platform. He
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: was telling me these things on the phone. Oh yeah,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I mean I was supposed I was supposed to do
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: interviews with them. They said, now, not at the right time.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, so send me the music. I'm
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: changing the shit out. It's like, damn, what the features are.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: It's like, damn that nigga. He used to give me
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: back a feature back in the day. Now they talked
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: about some loud amount of money because they don't do
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: swap store more. Um, yeah, people switched up on him,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I see all those people
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: still throw up the picture of R and P. Everything's cool,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Then just just let it go.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to Let's go back to some of
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the stuff from last week. Like, because the one thing
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I saw people keep saying is you know what his
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: academics done for the culture? How would you answer that question? Um,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a hard question for me to
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: answer because I don't know if they value what what
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I know I've done. You know, so what is it?
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I've provided a platform? I think music these days has changed.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: The mere fact that people in artists like NBA Young Boy,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the mere fact that drill is even gone to the
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: places is gone the UK, Toronto, New York. It's like
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest and most recognized, recognizable genres and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: most infectious genres in the world. There was a time
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: that there was no media outlet really pushing it and
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: really kind of like showing these stories and really telling
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: you know people what was really going on with not
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: only the popular arts, but these other artists as well.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: That's where my platform always got this, you know, um um,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I always always got my come up. I realized y'all,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: y'all talk about Drake, y'all talked about Kanye. Y'all got
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: a bigger platform at least at that time. So I'm like, yo,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I can't compete with y'all, So what could I do
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: to be unique? Look for the place in the market
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: that nobody was talking about. You rappers like Little Ouzy,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: little Yati Man, I was covering their lives daily. I'm going,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: let's let's put these guys up. I remember everyone said, yo,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: SoundCloud rapper, that would be a fad. I'm covering the
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Cardis of the world. Cardies just closed Rolling Aloud yesterday.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: UZI was at in one of the biggest you know,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: um sets at Rolling Aloud. Like they're the biggest artists
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: in this culture. And that's why they fuck with you
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the way that they do because you supported them from
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: day one, which which is what I always said about actors,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: like you can go back and look at acts page
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: ten years ago, eleven years ago. I've been following them
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: that long. These guys didn't have dreads, they didn't have tattoos,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: but not someone big in the world would say, well,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: how do you give back to the culture? Right, So
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: how would you answer that? Well, I mean it's not
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: it's not providing a platform for dudes who are trying
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: to get out of certain situations and trying to further themselves,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: um in their career to help their family giving back,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Like what sense of giving back is it is? It
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: is just because but don't I didn't make a sizeable
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: donation to anybody, like sizable donation. But like you said
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: about you know, some of the as you put it,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: dusty old old rappers, and that they don't necessarily give
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: back to the other people who are coming up to
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: explain in the breakdown the business. Oh yeah, that's that's
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: about a third or what I do. I remember sitting
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: back and wondering, yea, these niggas talking about their record contract,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: But how that look Like I created a rap parody
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: um thing called a little act that I could actually
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: go get signed, that I could actually like I got
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: a JV to make sure because I don't want to
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: be I remember back in the day when Ryan Clark
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: looked at like skip baylists or like he was Steven A.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Smith and basically said, y'all, I think he's never played
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: no ball, like how it was j Yeah, yeah, I
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: think he's never played no ball. Like how are we
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: going to listen to the nigga who's just the guy
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: in the stands? So I tried my best to understand
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: the game. And if you ask a lot of these
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: new artists, who who is that just interview recently, I
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: don't know if it was Boy Rich or somebody else,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: but they were like, yo, you helped, you broke down
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the game for me and gave me a blueprinted understanding
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: the ship when that seems so foreign and just far fetched.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: So like, that's I think what my contribution is. For example, recently,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: like the whole future selling as masters shit, you know
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: what I mean, young um not masters publishing. Young Boy
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: just signed some deal that that's kind of has some
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: of the same same elements. And I'm explaining to these
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: people why. I know we all preach ownership, ownership shit, right,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: but there are smart moves that people do in the industry,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: and I explained to how it makes sense. That's that's
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: what I think. Music education. I don't think there's nobody
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: else who and especially I'm not an artist. I've given
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: more music and business education than I can't. Is it
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: legitimate though, Like everything I'm saying is legit. I'm not
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: just capping. Every artist calls me on it. They call
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: me first of all, I'm getting when you get information
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: from most of these artists and executives. These these executives,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: they'll tell me, no one wants to ruin that situation.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: No one wants to, you know, because they don't get
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: paid for talking. I do. So I get on the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: phone with these executives. I had to you know, many
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: people I talked about when I had to figure out
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: what's going to Atlantic? Why is meat milling out signed?
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: There no more? Why is cod that Black about to
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: be a free agent? Why did P and b Rock
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: get dropped? PM? B Rock was not originally on Empire.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Everybody wants to say, oh, Empire is getting artist. No,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: he's an Atlantic artist, NBA young boy? Why did they
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: tell that, young man? And I'm getting from the source
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: like the guys I'm talking even sometimes your lawyers. Why
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: why did Atlantic basically tell Young Boy listen after twenty
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: two albums that you dropped in in a time period
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: where we only contracted you to do five. Hey, we'll
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: negotiate and give you this amount of money, but we
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: didn't give you a motherfucking party of master's back. These
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: are real things. What does that mean? When young Boy started,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: he's seventeen, he's twenty two. Now you want to say,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: what the fun going on? He's just putting out music.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: It took a team to be around him now. He
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: just started. And that's why he loves Burdman so much.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Even though you know you can say whatever about Burman.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Burnman helped him understanding and his team as well. Bro,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: you know you just satisfy you theoretic who you satisfied
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: contract four times? They're eating crazy off of you. Look
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: how they own your YouTube money, They own this this.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: These are things that to a seventeen year old coming
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: in the game, that was like when he got in
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: the games, um NBA. Young Boy was an artist who
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: got a suspended ten years sentence for being in a
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: drive by. He not thinking about well, this is what
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: a music contract looks like. This is how I should
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: do it. No, he's just you fucking I'm hid here.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: He signs to a label and the label is seeing
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: ten times what they even bargained from from him. Forget
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: the negotiation power. He doesn't even know what it means.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: So that's why I'm talking about when it comes to
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: music education, like we should, we should, we should. I remember,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: for the longest I was confused about the difference between
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: masters and publishing. You get me, Okay, how do you
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: gets paid from Spotify? Break all these ship down? Do
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: you think that the things you've done to quote unquote
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: offend people, overshadow the lane you've called it for yourself? No,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: And I was close to saying yes, but I would
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: say no just off the fact of I think it's
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: because of how I came in the game and what
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, how I came in the game. It wasn't traditional. Um,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: it still feels outside of ish to the majority of
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: people who whom would would voice the descent of the paion.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: You know, I feel what he's saying. If you come
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: up in a certain space like radio, it's like a
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: validation that comes with that. Yeah, like your authority exactly,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So they still look at me,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: and I remember even shit, even with media, there's some
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: of the biggest hip hop stories that I broke and
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: people would be like, well, well, they'll report the same
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: thing later. But we ain't gonna believe him because he
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: ain't TMC, or we ain't gonna believe him because he
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: not you know, double Cell, And why is that the case?
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I have like, there's nobody
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: double Cell with more reached to artists than me. I'm
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: talking to these actual people I'm putting in the work.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: It just it looks different though the optics are very
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: different when I say it, than them. So you know
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: what I mean. You're talking about krizzy tigue and slighting
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: you earlier. Do you have any animosity towards just the industry?
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Because you might, you might feel like so many of
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: these people did front on you. Yo, I told you
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: this one day though. I told Sharman, I said, listen,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: like I use these things as motivation. I needed it,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: fused me like it for the moments I want to
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: sleep eight hours now, I'm sleeping forward just because I
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: remember that motherfucker trying to slip me. I'm glad it happened,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: But I use this feeling motivation now. Granted I am petty,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: so don't think ten years later we're being like, oh okay,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: he's just no. But I think we all do it
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: if somebody like you know, didn't you know? And one
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: thing's like it's an honest mistake, right, Like say a
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: great artist emails you a record like every play the
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: shit you you overlooked or you didn't see it like
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: you probably a million emails, right, and then later that
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: artist brings it up to you. Oh should I don't
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: see it? Cool. It's different than you're like, man, this
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: niggas whack, right, and then he pops off. He's always
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: gonna remember that you called him whack and if and
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: if he wants to like I don't know, say you're
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: doing a party or whatever you want, you want to
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: book him, it's like nigga's double the price. Remember you
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: want this whack ass artist, And I understand it. You
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: gotta understand it. So of course I do. I use
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: all those things as motivation and m but you gotta
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: understand the pettinesses on the other side too, because you
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: got the microphone and you could say something I'm but
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: you said the breakfast Club is gonna be over. No
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: see he said something like that. You didn't say something
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: about the No no no no no no no. I
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: didn't say somebody, but I'll repeat it. So I said this,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I said, Um, I was commented when Angela said that
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: the well she said it's over as you know it,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: And I said, listen. Radio is a dying format, and
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: even as I sit here, I'll still maintain that point
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: of dying format. I said, this is the last legendary
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: radio show. There will be none after this. Like this
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: is everybody. It will be happening in different mediums. It's
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: happening now. Look at drink Champs COmON. I's worth the game, right, Um?
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I said, if I was on radio, I would leave.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: So not because I'm calling the platform that's dying, not
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: because I'm calling a platform dying. I didn't say none
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: of y'all should have left, you know what I mean.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, if i'm you, I'm ryning's been to
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the wheel fall off? So are you? Y'all put in
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of sweat and equity and blood equity into
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: this ship. I'm sticking with this. However, these days, culturally,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: if we're talking about justin content. The majority of of
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: of um relevant talking points or content pieces comes from
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of other places. Yeah, that's a fact. I mean, listen,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the radio still has the most reach. We cover ninety
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: eight percent of the country, but I will say I
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: feel like it has the least impact. Yeah, and I
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: think what radios, what radio's places, and this and this aratically,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: we'll talk too, Definitely talk, definitely talk because like he
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: said about, you know a lot of us using clips
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: from other platforms. A lot of platforms use our clips
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: same way. Yeah. Yeah, but that's We're an exception. But
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: that's what that's the point. The point is now. The
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: point is now. I think that radio is really the
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: ultimate amplifier. It's the compliment to everything that's going on now.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Like when it comes to personalities, podcasts will leading that,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: when it comes to music, screaming services, leading that, when
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: it comes to shows, festivals of leading that, you know
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: what I mean, when it comes to breaking news, social media.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: The only thing radio can do is be the ultimate
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: compliment and amplify to all those things. Correct, Yeah, yeah,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. I didn't say I was over there.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Don't try to put me in the mall box, like
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I know you'll try to use as no I mean,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: I mean I heard him say that before too. And
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: you know, the funny thing is, is you think you petty.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I think there's nobody petty than me, Like we probably
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: we probably the same petty party. Charlomagne knows that. But
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: you know, my whole thing is, if you think something
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: is over, don't call and say I want to get
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: on that platform that I think it's whack or you
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, I just honestly don't. But I
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: like the SPA. I mean, I like to compete, but
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. But I also like to
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: have conversations. I like to see brothers doing well. I
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: like to see brothers getting money, and I like to
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: help if I can help, Like you know, that's why
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I do the real estate so much. I figured it out.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I do great in real estate. So if I can
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: help somebody and show them to wait and I don't
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: I don't have to charge you. I just want to
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: see you win. That's why I'm able to do it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: That's why I asked about what are you doing outside
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: of forget the financial donations, but explaining breaking it down?
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Question that me and him didn't get like nobody taught us.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: We have to figure it out, bump out heads a
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: couple of times, and then I did. I did have people.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: I did have people you know that helped me definitely
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: on the way up though, and gamey game, I can
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: say that. But by the way, also like not only
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: with music, right because again remember I'm not a musician,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: but like even in media, like shit, I see a
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: bunch of people trying to figure it out themselves too.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: And I understood just like when you know, Charlomanne was
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: at that place of telling a young me like whatever whatever,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: like this this is dude, right, this is dude. Like
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: everybody was like yo, this is like this is the
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: carbon copy of academics. And you know maybe at a
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: different time and everyone they couldn't wait from to speak
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: on they're like, yo, you gotta just like yeah, they're
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: like they just wanted me to just like this this
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: guy that they could be like ah, yes, we were
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: rocking with And I remember there was a time Charlomayne
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: call me and you say, your bro, I'm listening to
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: your content. See you're getting better to sent third but
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: I'm I ain't gonna lie a lot of times. Sometimes
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: when I hear you doing certain ship sound like me,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: you gotta find Joe Lane, And I was it was
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: confused for a second, but I took it as positive,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: you know, constructive, you know, criticism, And I was like,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: I gotta figure out me. So this this guy who's
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: coming up, I know he's gonna find himself right now.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: We signed at a little bit like me and I
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: remember there was a quote from like Quincy Jones was like, yo,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of great musicians, like you know, they they play, uh,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: they copied someone else before they find himself or something
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: like that. I can't remember. It was really really dope
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: quote books and um, I'm allowing him to grow, you know,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Um it's gonna happen. So the same way with I
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: used the same echo as Clue, Like he was the
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: person that was from Queens or lived across the street
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: from me. He was the one that as a DJ,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I wanted to be. So you wound up following that,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: not knowing that you're following it because you're just happy
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: because you're like, oh shit, I started using his echo,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: his his mannerisms, and then you realize, no, I gotta
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: find mysel what fun? What fuck? The rant though, Like
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: when you did make the comments about the old the
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Pioneer is like, did you meet someone that made you
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: think that? Like what's part that? Um, I don't remember
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: exactly who it was that kind of have an idea.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: But I don't even want to call him out because
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: not even be like, oh, you're just calling this one
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: guy broken dusty, okay, because it wasn't. It wasn't like
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I was trying to sum everybody up. It was it
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: was at match two definitely one. I'm looking at this guy.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this broke dusty motherfucker. He came up to
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: you like yo, no, no, no, no, I'm consuming content.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: So you know, a lot of these dudes now they
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: alloy I love it. I love it. I love that
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: former rappers or even current rappers get all these platforms
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: and talk like I love it, And um, it was
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: just an older guy. It was just just all hate
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: towards like what the newer guys were doing and mad
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: criticizing like yo, why would he do this? And I'm like,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: so I'm looking up this dude. I'm looking up his
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: time in the music business and what people were saying
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: about him. You got fucking all yo deals. But now
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: you see the new guy. He might be making mistakes,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: not saying not, but you never you never sat them
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: down to be like yo, listen, this is how they
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: got me. How about you do these things differently. You're
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: criticizing the sound of me, you're criticizing everything around it.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: You think that new young kid go listen to you.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: He's looking at you like, man, it's broke. That's he.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Dude right here, who never ever taught me is now
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: trying to scold me. I get what you're saying. It
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: goes back to that Muhammad I leave quote myhum when
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Mohammed Ali says, you know, if if I don't have
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: the rolls Royce and I don't have the jewelry, he
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: might not listen to me the same. I get what
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: you're saying. But I've always told you, man, you can't
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: put too much stock in money in youth because you're
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: not gonna always be the youngest person. Agree, Oh you're
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: not thirty one. Yeah, to an eighteen year old, you're
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: old hit, but you're not always gonna be the richest.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: And by the way, by the way, I don't think
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I'm lychou at all ever, you got all the money.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I see them cars really shit. That's one thing I
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: had to accept, Like I want to say, like four
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: or five years ago, and I just want to age
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: gracefully though, like I just kind of, you know, whatever,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I kind of get into, you know, sometimes sometimes I
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: want to get him a little political bag. And even
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: though you know, I think right now I'm a little
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: bit immature with my political commentary, but I sprinkle that
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: in and I watched my audience, but also, like it comes,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna get back what you've been putting out.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? So once you get older, it's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: gonna be some young boy kicking your back in calling
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: you no no, the old and Dusty two. But I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: won't be stepping on their toes. I'm not gonna I'm
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: not gonna see the guy, like say, the guy who
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: when I say people comparing to me. I'm not gonna
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: see him get to a point in his career where
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: he can make a big move or whatever. And maybe
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: the same type of forking the road that I was at.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: And if I never put my hand around him and
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: gave him some game, if you make it the same
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: mistake I made or say like you did a Christy
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: team and they be like, man, you're stupid motherfucker. I'm
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: not gonna do that because I'm gonna understand that, Like, bro,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: you made those mistakes. You gotta allow him to make
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: his right. So I don't want to ever be the
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: old dude, right Broke, Dusty or Rich just pointing at
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: the young dude was criticizing them when you never you
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: never try to school them, You never passed down no game,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: and now you're just looking like you're on the porch
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: criticizing them to look at you. I hear, gang bang,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: it used to be doing the same shit, would just
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: call something different, you know what I mean. So that's
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: my point. Do you think it's a ceiling on what
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: you do? Because I said, everybody got a birthday and
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: at some point you all gonna be the old guy
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: in hip hop. If you think there's a ceiling, um, No,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Because what I believe I do and what people think
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I do and what I want to do or three
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: different things. What do you believe you do? So I
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: believe I'm a broadcaster and a platform owner. People believe
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just a twitch nigga. What I want to do
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: is I want to develop a platform, and that's much
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: more important than it won't be forever people are hearing
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: my voice. It might be it might be another person
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: just coming to my network. You want your own choice,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: want your own and and and that's where I feel
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: like you know me right now as a personality. I'll
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: say this. I always wanted to be on the Breakfast Club.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Like when I was coming, I was like, damn, I wish.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: But I was like, damn, it's them three they ain't.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: I had no fourth, and damn you probably not in
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: a long line of people. You ain't never internal radio,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: never did all these things which you're traditionally how are
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: you kind of get in the space. So I was like, yo, damn,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: how do I get on? And I always tell rappers this,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: if I made my own platform when I couldn't find
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: a platform to go on, like if I got hired
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: on these stations, I'm not me. And once I made
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: my platform, I remember, I remember que from World Star
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: came to me. It was like, yo, Ac, Yo, we'll
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: pay you this amount of money, just come work for us.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: You do world Star News. And I saw enough value
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: in me having my platform. I said, Noah, I ain't
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: gonna do that. But that's how I came up with
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: the idea of having a platform. So I look at
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: myself as platform first, even though I'm the face of it.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: My face is driving it. But at some at some time,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: the platform is supposed to live on. And you know,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: even now as I'm you know, like shit out, we
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: own a few studios like in you know, Jersey City,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: and I'm trying to build out you know, some podcasts
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: and stuff, probably either network or not, maybe just not
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: even the podcast network, just a digital digital network. Now
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: it's to the point where I'm like, okay, cool, your
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: face is driven your platform so much that all these
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: new young media niggas, they all look at you like
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: how you looked up to Charlottagne. They all look at
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: you like, bro, we watched this of yours. This is
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: why I've taken a grown up approach, because I used
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: to go at people who was similar to me. I'm like, nigga,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: you copy my ship. Now I'm like, let me, let
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: me put my arm around you and trying to invite
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: you out to the fold. That's that's yeah, And hopefully
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: I can empower them too, like let me empower y'all
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: rather than kind of like be like, oh, I'm the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: only one through the door, Come sit next to me.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: That's why I created the Black Effect podcast network, or
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: even with the Breakfast Club, the Breakfast Club, I want
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: to be a format that outlives all of us. You know,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Ye's going to do her own thing. If NV ever
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: decides he wants to move on, I ever decide I
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: want to move on, at least that name can still
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: be here with new players. Yeah, you say you talk
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: to a lot of different orders and try to mend
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: beef and try to talk to them. Do you ever
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: have conversations with six nine? Yeah? How did those conversations
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: turn out? Man? Frustrating? Frustrating because he's one of those
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: people who, Yeah, you're not pettiting him every No, you're not.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Anytime I try to appeal to his humanity anytime, I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: try to be like yo, bro, And we've gotten the
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: arguments where like like you know, just as friends like men,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not fucking with you right now at all? Nice
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: cause I'm not like this. It's one thing I always
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: suggest like, oh, don't do that, can't control you. But
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: at times I'm like this is too much. Um, and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: oftentimes this is this is how we act. Like For example,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: P and b Rock just passed away, you know, and
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: he had a negative comment. You know, I used to
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: repost those. I told him, I said, that's a dub.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I can't like it feels like I'm almost passively amplifying that.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not gonna sit there and delete
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: every one of your comments. You could be in a
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: conversation like every every random fan, but I'm not reposting
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: that at all. But even when he when he posts
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: a negative comment, man, I'll call Layer Bro you serious,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: ain't nobody always says he always has one of those
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: yo act. This is why I hate when you do this.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: When P and b Rock was alive and was saying
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: he can't wait for the day I die, you reposted
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: him saying that. But now he passed away, I'm supposed
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: to just why can't I Why can't I now keep
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: the same energy? And that's really his type of that's
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: his reaction to most of these things. But you can't
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: be mad at that because a lot of these people
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: said they hope he dies. They hate him. He's a snitch,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: he's a rat, talk about him. Gave him middle fingers
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: fucked that fucked at me other So now when something happens, he's,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: you know, not to say it's right, but for him,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: he's like, I don't give a fuck if you alive
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: or dead, I don't fuck with you. That's how he
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: felt that shit. That's why the whole King Vaughan thing.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: I remember having a yeah. Me and him ain't talked
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: for a while after the King Valan thing, like yeah,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: and he was just like, and I give him credit
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: in the sense of, you know, as a friend, he
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: had maybe say, oh, I know you're really upset, let's
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: talk about it. And I just sat there and I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: was just like, this is more than y'all issues. And
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: he was quoting twenty things that King Vaughan said to him.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: He's like King wid wrapped in a lyric. This he's
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: saying this about me. They all can't wait till I die?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Why can't I? And I remember saying to him, I'm like, what,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: people are hurt? A lot of people are hurt. And
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: even sometimes when these artists who I have someone of
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: a connection with, I'm hurt. I'm hurt of they're passing.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: And then I control a platform that you're used in
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: or trying to use to disrespect those same artists, so
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: you're trying to amplify my my hurt. So it's like,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: you know, it's very difficult, but um, you know, I
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: think for him there got to be someplace where you
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: find some inner peace. But I also feel like if
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: we have beef when you're alive, it doesn't end when
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: you die, like and that's that's whoever has beef like
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: And I always look at it like fifty. You know,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: fifty is my brother. If one of those people that
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: have beef with fifty die, he's not gonna stop, all right,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: But that's a man that got shot nine times. It
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: wasn't neither one of y'all are wrong, but neither one
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: of y'all a wrong. But you just gotta understand you
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: gotta deal with to consequences that come with that. Correct.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: So if you're gonna shoot on somebody who passed away,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: know that that person has people who love them, Know
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: that that person has people who ride for them, and
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: when they see you, it's gonna be some its gonna
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: be some consequences to recussions. I think he's accepted that
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: thing exactly. But but here's the thing too right. I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: do know in the course of hip hop conversation. And
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I remember one time when he told me he was like, yo,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: he did something. Forgot what it was was some like
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: he was like he with the Nipsey mural shit, and
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: he was just like, yo, they said I couldn't come here,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: I went there. Like if anybody else, if they said
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: anybody else couldn't go somewhere and they went there, they
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: would call them tough. But they all just mad at me.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Told him by I'm disrespectful, nobody. Why an't I called
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: me tough? What you called the other guy tough? And
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: you know I always I always have this one thing.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like listening Sometimes it's better to be liked than
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: to be right, because you're arguing such technicalities. At the
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: same point you're saying, well, if they're saying that about
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: when he dies, why can't he keep the same energy? Well,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: nobody likes six nine except like me, right, So like
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: truth be told, they're having a parade if he dies.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: You know this, right they're having and there would be
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: nobody on social media saying stop it, guys, it's gonna
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: be everybody's pot. That's what I'm trying to say that's
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: gonna be like Queen Elizabeth times a hundred, except I
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: don't know where they had fun with Elizabeth. That's how thousand.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: But like like see, but like six nine does stuff
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with beef. Right, he's in
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Russia right now performing. Yeah, he sticks up his middle
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: finger and says, fuck Britney grinder. Yeah, but the Britney Brittany.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: You can't. He can't pull up a Britney ground and
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: rap that says he said anything about him? No, I agree,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: I agree, and by the Heay did say it was drum.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: But still like, I don't be here defending him because
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: I do think he just has a he just loves
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: that beef ship man. You know, do you ever look
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: back at your drunken ranch and say I went too far?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: And the reason I asked that is because of watching
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: people around you who have had to deal with those consequences,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: whether it was six or nine going to jail, whether
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: it was you know XXX, God blessed the day, you know,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: getting murdered, all the other rappers that you name that
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: you had a relationship with, is it worth it um
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: if I ever say something or I speak out of turn,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: or if I say something that didn't mean or maybe
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: I mishnorest to something that reacted to it. In one
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: of those rants, I usually address it. I'm always I
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: try to hold myself account. I let the people home
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: accountble too. You know, there's been times I think I've
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: been all the way right and people like nah, especially
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: like you know, you could get a read from like
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: you know, the temperature of everybody. M One thing I
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: try not to do is allow myself to be bullied.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: But also sometimes again I'm gonna keep saying this, sometimes
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: this is more important to be liked than to be right.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: For example, I remember people saying whatever, like okay, I
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: commented about Freddy Gibbs, right man, nobody and fifty has
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: said used to say this too. Nobody remembers the action
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: that caused a reaction. Freddy Gibbs was putting them memes
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: with me photoshopp in a casket and him spitting on it.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Nobody cared about that, right, I comment, like, I make
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: two jokes about him getting beat up. Oh my god,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: look at his bitch ass. That's what I'm saying. So
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: people only see one side, so you know, like they
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: like Freddy Gibbs, especially on Twitter. They're like him more
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: than me. So if if I trip and fall, it's like, yes,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: if something happens as really as a result of his
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: own actions, they're like yo, wait wait you can't you
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: can't laugh at that. So again, you know what I mean.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: It's always gonna be like um, like um, one sided
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: like that. But you know, I've understood that through the media,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: like the media create favorites and like, for example, everything
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: you've seen popping off with me, where is it emanating
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  Speaker 1: from Shade Room? About it? I love you know, I
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  Speaker 1: love Angie, So it's not her. It's just that platform
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  Speaker 1: and the demographic there. Don't really fuck with me. They
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  Speaker 1: should know emanate from really rap blogs, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean Again, I mean, granted it's a bigger blog,
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  Speaker 1: but like that audience don't really fuck with me. If
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  Speaker 1: they liked me, it would be very different. There are
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: certain artists I see make mistakes that people like it.
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  Speaker 1: They'll be like, oh, he ain't mean it like that.
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  Speaker 1: But when they'll like you, oh hell now, he definitely
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  Speaker 1: meant to that fact. Have you had time to really
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  Speaker 1: reflect on your comments in regards to the old the
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  Speaker 1: Pioneers and hip hop like, have you had time to
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  Speaker 1: reflect on it and say, Okay, maybe I shouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: said the word dusty, or maybe, you know, maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: I should have just said, hey, financially, how come they
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  Speaker 1: aren't doing as good as they should be because they
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  Speaker 1: invented hip hop? I mean yes, And again, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: I knew this point the bigger context was never gonna
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  Speaker 1: be taken seriously. If I knew it was gonna be
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  Speaker 1: even amplified to that, to that reach, yes I would
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  Speaker 1: have not said that to hopefully let's have the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: But granted we just all agreed they don't want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about it, but you know how you can make
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  Speaker 1: them have the conversation. Apologize for calling them Jesse and say,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I used the bad choice of words.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, But but here's the thing. I can't apologize
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  Speaker 1: or something I didn't do, like I didn't call all
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  Speaker 1: of them? Does it? Everybody who was responded you said
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  Speaker 1: what I said earlier. I agree with LLL one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 1: except eighty percent of when he was talking about wasn't
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  Speaker 1: to me because I say it. I never said that
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  Speaker 1: your UM money could be equatable to your hip hop
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  Speaker 1: contributions in the past were you were you left it
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  Speaker 1: broad because you didn't name a name. So mean you
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: didn't name a name, you can only think you're generalizing. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I represent because usually I love calling names.
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  Speaker 1: I should have just called that dude name, but I
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  Speaker 1: didn't think my olders was even gonna to do so.
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  Speaker 1: But now everybody don't responded. I don't want to now
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: go back and point Blake, I was talking to that
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  Speaker 1: nigga right there. Body didn't due responded to the one
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  Speaker 1: person you was talking about. Wow, interest interested? So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that is a bigger conversation. By the way, when he responded,
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  Speaker 1: he kind of almost agreed that he was let me
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  Speaker 1: just keep it going. But the bigger conversation is how
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  Speaker 1: can we help you know the founding fathers? And I
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  Speaker 1: think people just people just want you to respect the
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  Speaker 1: culture that you eat off. Okay, that's a good one.
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  Speaker 1: What legitimately besides that comment, do people believe that shows
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  Speaker 1: lack of respect of the culture or even historically um
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: rappers who came before, Like that's what I'm trying to say,
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  Speaker 1: Like they're using two words to kind of you paint
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  Speaker 1: a large brush on everything I've done, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Well, if you but if if they if
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  Speaker 1: they have, if they haven't been paying attention to the
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  Speaker 1: whole totality of you and all the different things you
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: might have done or have done, then they only see
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  Speaker 1: that one thing. Who is this? You know? And that's
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: and that's where it comes down to this, right, So like, um,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: you know, but they're not gonna give you a chance
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  Speaker 1: because it's already we're in mob cultures, cancer culture. So
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  Speaker 1: or is anybody gonna look up? Does he have other
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: comments disrespecting all of the old rappers? What has he
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  Speaker 1: said about them before? What has he said about you know,
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  Speaker 1: the pioneers? What has he said about people who were
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: popping in the eighties and nineties? Okay, he grew up
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  Speaker 1: on most of these niggas into two thousands. What has
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  Speaker 1: he said about all these people? Is he one of
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: the dudes who are just ignorant, who only likes the
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: under twenty five year old rap music and thinks everybody
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: else is trash? Has he only judged rappers because of money?
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  Speaker 1: Did anybody go to look that up? Or was it
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: a good way to galvanize? And actually that's the only
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  Speaker 1: thing I was proud about. I think everybody was on
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  Speaker 1: the same page, even though it was against me. And
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: sometimes if you think about back in history and by
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  Speaker 1: the maybe I shouldn't even sa this, but I was
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: not saying I was just like in history, the worst
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  Speaker 1: events that bring people together are usually scapegolden one one particular,
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  Speaker 1: one particular subset of people, or one person. Everybody would
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  Speaker 1: get on board. Oh that's the bad guy. Get that motherfucker.
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  Speaker 1: So again, I was like, I was happy when I
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: seen everybody. Everybody was chiming in. Certain people I thought
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: should should have set it set it out though, like
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Russell should have set it out like he was. Come on,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: so you're down to have the conversation with the lls,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: the TI I mean, I think after thing, people don't understand, like,
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  Speaker 1: you're not a bad guy. You know, I've been knowing
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  Speaker 1: you for a long time. You actually a student of
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: the game, you know what I mean. And I think,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: just like any of us, you can get caught up
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  Speaker 1: in the performance of it all sometime, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, But you got it. You gotta deal with
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: the consequences those actions, Like I always tell you, it's
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: going to come at some point, we've all gotten punched
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  Speaker 1: in the face. You know what I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's worth it in the long run. I don't no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: of course it's never worth it. Right. What I mean
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: worth it is like this is just hip hop, and
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: the same way everybody running arond saying it's the most
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: dangerous job in the world, which it's not, but still
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: everybody running around saying that if you believe that, you
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: you must know when you pick up a mic, you're
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: you might die. Right. So so so here's the thing.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: When I also pick up a mic to give my comments,
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  Speaker 1: I understand it might get that serious too. You gotta
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: take that. If we're calling it a most dangerous job
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: in history, right, it could go any way at any time,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: based based off how you choose to communicate. Because the
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: way we're communicating, now that's not being that communicate all
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: the time, but you don't communicate it. You don't sound
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: like it's on twitch. Yeah, because I'm giving a soliloquy,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: and a soliloquy like if I was talking Montone, I'm
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: falseive too, that's falsey what I'm talking. So I'm a
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: performative on everything, not what I mean performative is that
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: I'm theatrical when I'm when I'm talking, I'm you're entertaining.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: And also, what I've realized in hip hop, people think
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: that speaking with confidence means you're aggressive. Like I'll be
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: speaking about a point that I am very confident about
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  Speaker 1: making it be like, Yo, why are you talking tough
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  Speaker 1: like this? Like what do you say this in person?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, now I'm having a conversation with you,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: and if we're inside, I'm talking to millions of people
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: through a mic in the screen. Who knows who the
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: fuck is listening right now? If I'm talking to you,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: why would I need to shout right here? And also
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to you that you could be
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: able to listen and then be able to understand and
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: respond and vice versa. I guess what my thing is like,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: I like all of these conversations, but let's not make
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: them about one individual. Let's make them about coaches. Let's
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: get them up here, because I think sometimes when you
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: hear somebody's side and what they're talking about, it opens
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: it up. And I guarantee from this interview, people are
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: like you more because they're not hearing the clips that
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: they're hearing on the blog sites and the clips that
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: they're hearing on these sites that only a thirty second clip,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: and you had a seven hour conversation, And how do
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: we know this? This this in a lot of ways,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: this is the hate that hate produces. You know what
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, you the Frankenstein monster of a of a
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: lot of hip hop. Because if I come at you
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: for you know, why you call this woman a b
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: words like I gotta turn the mirror on myself too,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: why I've been doing it for so long? If I
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: come at you because you know you called rappers old
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: and dusty, it's like, damn, when I was young, I
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: was disrespecting the old, older generation too. But also more importantly,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: what can we do for the founding fathers of hip hop?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: You know, so they aren't like that. What can we
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: do to where more people are respecting women? When when
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: when we have these conversations. By the way, I kind
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: of also, you know, to sum it up, I feel like,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: you know, hip hop always needs a villain. And I
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: think because you know, six nine is where he used
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: to be in this career. It's kind of like CNN
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, Donal Trump not an office no more.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: Joe Rogan the bad guy, you know what I mean.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: It's like I'm in line to be one of those guys,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: and you know I could. You know, I wasn't even
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: telling my brother yesterday. I was just like I could
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: watch every word I'm saying. If they want to take
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: something out of context, absolute, they went back ten years
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: to show them something randomly, you know what I mean,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: they went back ten years. So trust me, I know. Yeah,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: come on, you know he goes you know, I know
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: he knows. Yeah, we appreciate you for stopping through. Brother.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna make it up here. Well,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: I thought I wanted to answer you to be here
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: before before she went to the final days of the
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club as you know it. So you got in
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: before the transition, Yo. Could I be one of the
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: new hosts though, Yeah, we can. We're rotating guests next year.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: At least swinging I mean instead of Sharlotte me t
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  Speaker 1: have going on a long time as you should. I
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: think you crazed if you weren't all right, Well, we
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you joined us. Is academic DJ Academics, it's the
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  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Good morning,