Latest / 3 Guys, 6 Balls NFL Podcast / EP 22: Top 10 Fantasy Football RBs & WRs
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- 0:003 lifelong friends, 6 trusty balls and endless NFL ticks.
- 0:05Welcome to Three guys 6 Balls NFL Podcast.
- 0:08Welcome to episode 22 of Three guys 6 Balls NFL podcast.
- 0:12Today we've got more fantasy football talk for you guys.
- 0:15We're going to rank our top 10 fantasy running backs and wide
- 0:20receivers today, and I have a feeling that we're not going to
- 0:23have very many of these guys that are going to be ranked in
- 0:26the same spots. I really struggled with this.
- 0:28I don't know about you guys, but I really struggled with this.
- 0:30It was not the same as ranking the quarterbacks at all.
- 0:34But before we get started with our fantasy rankings today, I
- 0:38have to give a shout out. My mom told her friend about our
- 0:41podcast and she really loves football.
- 0:42Her and her husband really love football.
- 0:44Her name's Renetta and her husband's name is Rich.
- 0:47I just wanted to give them a shout out real quick because
- 0:49they apparently they listen to all of our episodes and they
- 0:52commented on a bunch of our Facebook posts.
- 0:56So I just wanted to give a shout out.
- 0:59So shout out to Renetta and Rich, our new fans.
- 1:02We appreciate you guys. We love little R&R.
- 1:05All right, that sounds great. All right, well, let's just hop
- 1:10right in. Let's get started with our top
- 1:12ten PPR fantasy running backs. Hey for 2025?
- 1:17I actually have a question here real quick.
- 1:19We have had a total of what, one pre season game?
- 1:22Right. Yes, I don't miss anything.
- 1:24And sorry, this is this is just after stuff here.
- 1:27I had to talk to you today. I wanted to pitch to you boys.
- 1:30People are lighting up about how good Trey Lance was doing.
- 1:34Oh, Trey Lance, Trey Lance said he's so good.
- 1:37Do you guys as football watchers, football enjoyers, do
- 1:40you put any real stock in the preseason?
- 1:44And how good somebody does in preseason?
- 1:46No, those are all press releases, all of that stuff.
- 1:49I think it's good experience for players, but you cannot really
- 1:53grade a player based off of how well they do in the preseason.
- 1:56Yeah, every time I see an article or a video talking about
- 2:00oh, so and so was cooking in practice today.
- 2:04Like, K, first of all, it's practice with your own
- 2:06teammates. Second of all, who the hell
- 2:08wrote this? Like who's like is I honestly
- 2:13think like is that your agent who paid some reporter to put
- 2:17this out there to leverage your contract or something like so
- 2:21whenever I see that I'm like, this is nonsense.
- 2:24I mean, now, if it's if it's something where like someone is
- 2:27like, oh, someones taking more reps than the, you know,
- 2:30presumed starter, that that might be something there
- 2:34assuming it's true, but just saying someones cooking.
- 2:37It's like you're all professional athletes, you all
- 2:41be a better be able to cook. Everybody has a good game every
- 2:44once in a while. I think it should be said that
- 2:47not everyone's second string is as good as everybody elses
- 2:50second string. And so I don't believe Trey
- 2:54Lance played against or with his the number one team on either
- 2:58side. He didn't play against the
- 2:59number one lions team and he didn't play with the number one
- 3:02chargers team like he's playing with the backups against the
- 3:05backups. I get that it's supposed to be
- 3:07equal for equal at that point, but not everybody's backups are
- 3:10equal. And so this whole look at his
- 3:13stats, he was doing so good. I just, I don't know, I think
- 3:16it's a bunch of hogwash, yeah. His career is not revived
- 3:20because one preseason game. I mean, if you worked on social
- 3:23media after that game, you would disagree with yourself.
- 3:25If Justin Herbert gets hurt, which hopefully not, but if he
- 3:28gets hurt and Trey Lentz comes in and actually performs well,
- 3:32then I'll believe that his career is revived.
- 3:34But until then I won't. Fair enough, sorry for derailing
- 3:37us. The the whole podcast is just
- 3:39derailed now. We can't we.
- 3:40Can't. I am very good at that.
- 3:42I've been called a distraction. High praise.
- 3:52Let's jump right into our top 10 fantasy running backs.
- 3:55Let's go ahead and get started. We started with Will last time.
- 3:57So Avery, you'll go first on this one.
- 3:59Give us your top ranked fantasy running back for this season.
- 4:03Bijon Robinson. I also have Bijon Robinson.
- 4:06I don't will. Will let the record show will is
- 4:12objectively wrong. Do you know why?
- 4:16And, and I'm going to contradict myself here, but because of
- 4:19Michael Pennix, I think they're going to try to utilize his acts
- 4:23because he the dude can throw the ball far.
- 4:26He has a good arm, accuracy is a different thing, but he can
- 4:31throw the ball far. And so they're going to try to
- 4:33use that. And they've got Drake Honda and
- 4:35they've got whatever the other guy's name is.
- 4:38They've got a good set of wide receivers.
- 4:40We've talked about them before. I just don't feel like they're
- 4:42going to utilize Bejon Robinson in the receiving row because
- 4:48Kyle Pitts and we all know fantasy the legend Kyle Pitts,
- 4:53right every single year putting up incredible stats.
- 4:57I just don't think and and we're talking specifically full point
- 5:01PPR leagues. So you're best running backs
- 5:03going to be guys who are going to get the ball in the receiving
- 5:06a lot. I just don't think they're going
- 5:08to utilize Bejon Robinson or Ted Tyler, Tyler Eiliger.
- 5:11I, Tyler Algier, thank you. I crushed it.
- 5:17I just don't think I use any of them in the receiving game like
- 5:20to have in the past. I think the opposite.
- 5:22I think they're going to lean on him heavily because of Michael
- 5:25Pennings Junior. Later on in my list, I actually
- 5:31have the exact contradictory fact.
- 5:34For matter of fact, one of my notes I just fell on wrote bad
- 5:38quarterback. Like under, under, under a
- 5:41running back stand. I just wrote bad quarterback
- 5:43needs a safety net. I don't think Michael Pennock
- 5:45junior is a bad quarterback. He is left-handed, but we won't
- 5:48take too much away from him. Is it Alvin Kamara?
- 5:51Of course it is. We'll get there though.
- 5:54I just don't think they're using the same.
- 5:56I do have Baja Robinson on my list.
- 5:58He did make the top, the top 4 actually #4 if you can guess.
- 6:02I just don't have him. I just don't have him at #1.
- 6:07Wait, did you say who's your number one?
- 6:09I didn't say yet, I have Jamir Gibbs.
- 6:11I have Jamir Gibbs. The Lions are going to rely a
- 6:14lot on that. That whole offense, they had the
- 6:16most, maybe not the most explosive offense, but they had
- 6:20an incredible offense last year and most of those pieces stayed.
- 6:23Unlike the Vikings offense where you lost your quarterback, that
- 6:27did not happen for the Lions. I can expect near the same
- 6:30thing. I know they lost some coaches,
- 6:32coordinators, whatever you want to call them, but you can
- 6:34expect, in my opinion, I think you can expect near the same
- 6:36thing from last year. I'm baking the Jamir Gibbs this
- 6:39year. All right, Will.
- 6:40So now it's time for me to tell you why you're wrong.
- 6:42Go on, you can try. Very similar to the
- 6:45quarterbacks. Since 2001 there's only been 1
- 6:48running back that has been the leader in back-to-back points in
- 6:52fantasy. And that running back was Chiefs
- 6:54running back Priest Holmes from 2002 to 2003.
- 6:58Guess who was number one last year?
- 7:00Shamir Gibbs. Statistically, he will not be
- 7:03the number one running back this year because he was the number
- 7:06one running back last year. So if I make counter before
- 7:09Priest Holmes, do you know if anybody else has ever done it?
- 7:11I don't because they didn't give me the stats before that.
- 7:13Sure, for sure. So let's just assume the answer
- 7:15was no, right? That's just that's just for this
- 7:18example. Let's assume no one, because
- 7:20before 2001, were we even playing fantasy football?
- 7:23No, nobody got it yet. The answer is yes, but the
- 7:26answer is also no. So before Priest Holmes did it
- 7:28in 2003 and 4. Right, I wasn't really
- 7:31listening, I was building my rebuttal 2. 1000 and three 2000
- 7:34and. Three.
- 7:34Yeah. Yeah.
- 7:35It's like I said, 2002 and 2003. No one had ever done it.
- 7:38OK, But you know what? Priest Holmes didn't care.
- 7:40You know who else doesn't care? Dan.
- 7:42Gibbs. Campbell Well junior gives to
- 7:45with Dan Campbell. Feed the man the ball and let
- 7:49him run it. Throw the man the ball and then
- 7:51let him run it after that. You would know Dan Campbell's
- 7:54won a lot of playoff games, so he knows how to, yeah.
- 7:58Yeah, hey, you know what? Fantasy doesn't give a shoot
- 8:01about the playoffs, does it, pal?
- 8:03Fantasy football doesn't give a RIP about the playoffs, that's
- 8:06true. That's why Pat Mahomes is not a
- 8:09great fantasy quarterback. That's what, that's what those
- 8:11articles. He's great, but like, he's not
- 8:13like great great. Those articles that say those
- 8:15players are cooking in practice Also no relation to the
- 8:18playoffs. You're right, you're right.
- 8:23This has nothing to do with real football, just practice
- 8:25football. All right, all right, so we're
- 8:29back to Avery. So give us your number 2 running
- 8:31back this year for fantasy. Am I leading?
- 8:34Am I going to say my first one? I hope you.
- 8:37Are you are you're first? Today I got Derrick Henry.
- 8:42Really, a #2? Yep, I think.
- 8:45That's surprising coming from you.
- 8:48As as opposed to the other running backs, I feel like Derek
- 8:52Henry's built a little different and a little bit more
- 8:54consistent. Physically, yes.
- 8:58Well, I mean, yeah, there's obviously that, but he's built
- 9:00like a defensive tackle. But.
- 9:03I guess the way I see it is he can continually produce.
- 9:09He's not one of these. That was a deep cut.
- 9:11D Anthony Thomas's where you have to treat him like some 69
- 9:15year vet that you only bring out for special occasions and pray
- 9:19that no one breathes on him wrong.
- 9:21I just feel like he's one of those guys you can continually
- 9:24expect consistent production from and I don't expect a big
- 9:28dip. So whether or not he puts up the
- 9:31second best numbers, I just like him as far as a I guess.
- 9:35More the safe pick existing guy. Yeah, he's the antithesis of
- 9:40McCaffrey. Yeah, I like that.
- 9:43I don't have him here, but you like that.
- 9:44I'm gonna go ahead and go next because Avery just mentioned my
- 9:47#2 running back. It's Christian McCaffrey.
- 9:50You are joking. He didn't even make my name
- 9:55dude. Didn't even I didn't even make
- 9:57my top 10. Didn't even make the top 10.
- 9:59He's not online either. He's not on my top 10.
- 10:02I was like, get out of here dude, I'll put you at 11.
- 10:04So I never. Have to say your name.
- 10:06He is so broken. You can do.
- 10:08That's the thing. That's The thing is it is a
- 10:11massive risk, yeah. And let me tell you, as the guy
- 10:15who had him in the first round in two different leagues last
- 10:18year ain't going to happen again.
- 10:21You can miss me with that McCaffrey garbage.
- 10:25Totally. He's going to get tired.
- 10:26Of Harding If if he doesn't get hurt on his own, someone's going
- 10:30to take this steel rod. OK, So this is just based off of
- 10:36if he's healthy, because if he's healthy, you are going to get
- 10:40one of the top running backs in fantasy football every single
- 10:43year that he's been healthy. So in the five seasons he's been
- 10:46healthy, he has been a top 10 running back.
- 10:48And the, the one year that he was #10 was his rookie season
- 10:52when he was splitting carries with Jonathan Stewart.
- 10:54Every other year he's been healthy, he's been either #1 or
- 10:57#2 every single year he's been healthy.
- 11:00Now, again, that is a massive risk to take Christian McCaffrey
- 11:05because in three of his eight seasons, he's missed over half
- 11:08the games. So it's a massive, massive risk
- 11:11to take Christian McCaffrey. But if it pays off, you are
- 11:14getting either. You're probably getting either
- 11:17the first or second scoring running back in fantasy
- 11:20football. I don't, just not on my list.
- 11:23I don't disagree with the words you're currently saying, but
- 11:27because of the gigantic risk, I'm just not doing it.
- 11:30It has been too many times what's what feels like in a row
- 11:35and maybe this is recency bias and he's going to come back
- 11:37totally fine, but he's getting up there in age.
- 11:40The 49ers have less weapon and so we can get utilized more,
- 11:44which feeds into what you're saying.
- 11:45But somebody who's already injured, I just don't trust him
- 11:49having to ball more. Yeah.
- 11:51And that's totally fair. You know, you get hurt once,
- 11:54shame on you get hurt twice, shame on me.
- 11:57You get hurt three times, shame is back on you because you need
- 12:01to figure this out. He can't be a professional
- 12:04baller if you're going to get hurt three times like that.
- 12:06Yeah, I have Ashton Gentie in my #2 spot at #2 at #2 because of
- 12:15because of two reasons. Nope.
- 12:19Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly. Pete Carroll loves to run the
- 12:22ball. Chip Kelly runs that for one
- 12:25play except for Alan play. I was going to bring it up this
- 12:29time. I have Seahawks fans at work who
- 12:33do not like it. I brought it up like 8 weeks in
- 12:35a row. I wasn't going to say it.
- 12:39No one still. On the ball now.
- 12:42Now more than Pete. Pete Carroll is a run first guy.
- 12:47Chip Kelly is a West Coast offense guy.
- 12:50So it's slants. It's it's screen passes, it's
- 12:54running back swing routes. It is it is get the guy the ball
- 12:58in open space and let them run. And that is one thing Ashton
- 13:02gently did well was he found his own open space and ran in
- 13:06college. Now college and pros, they mean
- 13:08some together, but they don't mean anything really, because
- 13:11let me look at Tim Tebow, right All Star in college couldn't do
- 13:14anything NFL except when I play off the game.
- 13:16But that's not the point. That's fine.
- 13:17Whatever. Who cares about the Steelers
- 13:19anyway. So I that's why we're ashing
- 13:21into here. I I'm I'm buying into the I
- 13:24guess you're right. It's the hype, but it's not just
- 13:26the Ashton Gente hype. It's the coaching staff hype
- 13:29along. With him, OK, I'm going to save
- 13:31my staff for Ashton Gente for when I have Ashton Gente on my
- 13:34list. I don't want it anyway.
- 13:37Yeah, I do it fine. I.
- 13:39Want to know? I want to.
- 13:42Know. I'll.
- 13:43Take you off the podcast when I show my stuff.
- 13:45No, I got it. No, I got it.
- 13:47What? What's right as I'm wearing ear
- 13:50folks, I can't even get in my ear.
- 13:53All right, let's move on to #3 Avery, who's your #3 fantasy
- 13:57running back this year? I got.
- 13:59Jameer Gibbs. I also have Gibbs at 3:00.
- 14:02Shoot. I'm.
- 14:04Will. All right, well, who do you got?
- 14:08Who's? Your I was waiting for you guys
- 14:11to give a reason as to why. I mean, we talked about it a
- 14:14little bit. He's not going to be #1 because
- 14:15he was number one last. Year you already gave it, but we
- 14:18just see that just like a few notches down that's it's the
- 14:20same thing just. Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure.
- 14:23I have Saquon Barkley OK there. Why do you have that 3?
- 14:27I don't know. I just do, right?
- 14:29It's one of those. It's one of those.
- 14:31He's on the ground. It's just up to you guys and and
- 14:35Jamir Gibbs here, can't believe the Williams that won last year.
- 14:38He's not really #2 because apparently Christian McCaffrey,
- 14:41so he's just putting me three. I've got to say Quan is as
- 14:44probably the league's third best running back and so that's why
- 14:48we got him here. OK, fair enough.
- 14:50Avery, who do you have as your 4th fantasy running back this
- 14:52year? Saquon.
- 14:54I have Saquon. Ford to you.
- 14:56I'm getting slain down here for happy MS3.
- 15:00I don't want you ever know before.
- 15:06Little did you know, Will, that Avery and I got together before
- 15:08the podcast and we kind of. Yeah.
- 15:11And just. And then just kind of mixed it
- 15:13up enough that that it didn't seem like.
- 15:15It but he's being nice. I asked him for the answers and
- 15:19he made me promise to change it up a little bit so it didn't
- 15:21look like I directly copied him. I don't have that that feels
- 15:26right. I took French class with you.
- 15:29I know how this works. And guess who speaks French now?
- 15:36Neither one. Of us I.
- 15:40Think we know. I think we both know the same 3
- 15:42words probably and they're and they're not normal words.
- 15:47Just I'll leave it there. Yeah, that's fair.
- 15:52Saquon Barkley had 2000 yards rushing last season and in the
- 15:56entire history of the NFL, there's only been one
- 15:59back-to-back season where there's been a 2000 yard rusher
- 16:02and it was not by the same player.
- 16:03So that's why I ranked Saquon Barkley a little bit lower than
- 16:07I feel like most people would because he's not going to have
- 16:102000 yards again. He just won't.
- 16:11And Avery said it multiple times.
- 16:13That's why I was surprised you put Derek Henry at 2, Avery,
- 16:15that you think that both Saquon Barkley and Derek Henry are
- 16:18going to have statistically worse seasons than they did last
- 16:21year. So that's part of the reason why
- 16:23I put Saquon Barkley at four and not in one of the top three
- 16:26spots. Yeah, same.
- 16:27Who's your 4? I have Bichon Robinson.
- 16:30He had to show up at some point. I had to.
- 16:34I freaked myself out. We already talked about him
- 16:36because you guys talked about, wait a minute, he was already on
- 16:38my list. No, he wasn't.
- 16:39Yeah, you lost your list where he was you actually.
- 16:41Changed, I said #1 because we were both in #1 you just.
- 16:45Wanted to talk already talked about why it's the whole my who
- 16:48panics thing. I don't trust him.
- 16:50I don't trust the Falcons truly. That's I just don't trust the
- 16:54Falcons. And you shouldn't.
- 16:56OK. Thank you.
- 16:59All right. Who's your number 5 fantasy
- 17:01running back this year? I got Ashton Gentie.
- 17:04I'm going to get one of these guys you're.
- 17:06Acting like our pigs just because they went first or
- 17:09right. Somehow they were all just
- 17:11shooting. No, I have Ashton Gentie at six,
- 17:14but I thought about honestly just saying that I had him at 5
- 17:16just so I could continue to make Will feel bad.
- 17:20Yeah, I love you guys too. You guys are the best.
- 17:22I'm so glad we do this. I think Gentie, I think for the
- 17:26same reasons Will had there, but also I think there's a little
- 17:29bit of freshman, I guess rookie magic.
- 17:33The same thing with Zeke and Dak.
- 17:36Just like no one knows you as well, or at least your game in
- 17:39the professional world. I mean, as long as you're going
- 17:41to get utilized and as high as Gente was taken, I'm sure he's
- 17:44going to be RB number one and they're going to use him.
- 17:47So honestly, if I had to say where I think he'll rank fantasy
- 17:51wise, I honestly have all these guys.
- 17:54I think he might have the lowest floor just because we don't
- 17:59know. But also, I mean, even
- 18:01McCaffrey, you said McCaffrey ended up at 10 his rookie year.
- 18:05Granted, he was behind Jonathan Stewart, but I think I mean, if
- 18:09you're talking about McCaffrey, like in when he's healthy prime,
- 18:12like he's one of the greatest ever.
- 18:14So I just think Ashton living up to that, like, that's a tall
- 18:19order. But like Will said, I think Pete
- 18:22Carroll and Chip Kelly, I think they'll do him right.
- 18:24I think he'll put up some good numbers and it'll be exciting to
- 18:27watch more than anything, Yeah. I agree.
- 18:29I have met 6. I have Derek Henry at 5:00.
- 18:32But since we're talking about Ashton Genti, I will give my
- 18:35stat now because it's five and six, basically the same thing.
- 18:37So every running back that was drafted in the top 12 of the
- 18:42draft since 2012 has finished as a top ten PPR fantasy running
- 18:47back. Do you guys think you can guess
- 18:49who they are? Say that.
- 18:52One more time. There's eight of them.
- 18:53OK, so so every every running back since 2012 that has been
- 18:58drafted in the top 12 of the draft has finished as a top 10
- 19:03fantasy running back their rookie year.
- 19:05Isn't Prince Richardson in that group?
- 19:07He is 2012. He had a good season.
- 19:09He had. That was his best season, yes.
- 19:12Todd Gurley. Todd Gurley is one of them.
- 19:15He was in 2015. What's it?
- 19:16Who's the I? Mean Zeke.
- 19:19Zeke 2016, the years only get the years only get higher from
- 19:23here, just so you know. That's that's three or 4.
- 19:25That's three. There's two in 2017.
- 19:29Are these players still active? McCaffrey. 11 from 17 is which
- 19:33is McCaffrey. Yeah, McCaffrey, OK, the other
- 19:36one's not. Right, the other one is not
- 19:38what? Active in the NFL anymore?
- 19:41Is it the one? You won a Super Bowl out.
- 19:45With the bug Melvin, never mind. Then for net.
- 19:48Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
- 19:51And then there's there's three more.
- 19:53There's 2018. No, he had a horrible rookie
- 19:57year. OK, so there's one running back
- 19:59in 2018 and 2 running backs in 2023.
- 20:02I'm thinking about 2018 like it was three years ago.
- 20:04He was tracked 3 years ago. Was Brice.
- 20:08Brice Hall. No, she was a second.
- 20:10No, he was a second round pick 20. 18 Is it one of Is it Saquon
- 20:14or Derek Henry? Saquon is in 2018.
- 20:16He actually finished first and then 2023 there's 2 running
- 20:20backs. That's two years ago, so we've
- 20:22talked about. We've talked about both of them
- 20:24already. Robinson and Jamir Gibbs.
- 20:26Yep, that's every running back since 2012 that's been drafted
- 20:31in the top 12, and every single one of them has finished in the
- 20:34top ten of fantasy running backs their rookie year.
- 20:37Shoot. All right, well.
- 20:38So that's pretty high hopes for actually junky then, yeah.
- 20:40It is. Well, did.
- 20:42You give your will, did you give your 6?
- 20:45When was Martin Hampton drafted? I have not yet.
- 20:48I haven't given my 5 yet. Was he sorry?
- 20:51Wasn't he second round? No, it was first round, but it
- 20:54was in the second. It was in the second-half.
- 20:56Of the second-half, OK, at #5 I have Derrick Henry.
- 21:00Oh, so woo me and you match. I have Derrick Henry.
- 21:02We do. Match yeah, I was not going to
- 21:05make a big deal about it if you wanted to do because you skipped
- 21:10your number 5. Let's just talk about my number
- 21:12six and that's Avery has. Yeah, Co conspirators over
- 21:16there. I thought your five wouldn't
- 21:18matter anyway because. Yeah, exactly.
- 21:20You remember all right. All right, Avery, who's your
- 21:24number six fantasy running back this year?
- 21:26I got Jonathan Taylor. I don't like it, but that's
- 21:29where he is. I don't want to talk about it.
- 21:32I did not put him on my list. He did not make my list either.
- 21:35He was an honorable mention for me.
- 21:38Yeah, for the same injury as Christian McCaffrey didn't put
- 21:42it on the list. I have him there because I think
- 21:44Anthony Richardson's going to get hurt again or whoever
- 21:46replaces him. So I just think they're going to
- 21:47be running it more, yeah. The reason I didn't put on, the
- 21:51reason I didn't put him on my list is because he's only played
- 21:53one full season. Every other year he's missed at
- 21:55least two games. And I know it's only two games,
- 21:57but still it's you never know what two games it's going to be
- 22:00if those are playoff games that. Sucks.
- 22:02Ruins your fantasy championship right there.
- 22:05It does. You already gave your 6.
- 22:08I have Bucky Irving at six. He's in my top ten.
- 22:11I don't have him at six, but he's in my top 10.
- 22:13I'm a big Bucky fan. I think that as Mike Evan gets
- 22:17older that he's going to be, I think he's got one more 1000
- 22:21yard season left in him and then that's pretty much going to be
- 22:23it for him And, and so as. Barely.
- 22:25He barely got 1000 yards last year but they actually purposely
- 22:29throwing the ball. On the last.
- 22:31Drive to get him 1000 yards. I watched that.
- 22:35I watched that happen and it was so fun to watch.
- 22:40Surely it was, it was such a fun like football moment.
- 22:43Like it was this is football. But you're not wrong.
- 22:47It was a bit looking back, it's like, oh, guys, that the horse
- 22:52is dead. Do we need to turn them into
- 22:53glue on this field? Like, come on.
- 22:55But they're going to they're going to have to change their
- 22:57their play style. And Bucky was a huge part last
- 23:00year and made a huge part in this year.
- 23:02I like that. All right, let's move on to #7
- 23:05who's your #7 fantasy running back this year?
- 23:07Bucky Irving. Dude, I'm so good at this guys.
- 23:12So here's the thing. I'm just saying to the guy
- 23:14that's before you. That way you don't have to know.
- 23:17It makes it look like I'm sitting here changing my list.
- 23:19I got to have him up next, then it's all important that I have.
- 23:24Him next all right at 7, I have Kyron Williams.
- 23:27Boo. I don't know.
- 23:30That's fine. I also have it Williams at #7
- 23:34but it's not Kyron. I have Diane Williams.
- 23:39It's not what I had Dallas, Dallas running back is that
- 23:44please hold. Please get out get.
- 23:48Out hold taste. He wasn't even in consideration
- 23:52for the time. He's not.
- 23:53He's not. I never.
- 23:55Thought about his name one time. Allow me to enter this into the
- 23:59chat. We have new head coach, we have
- 24:02struggling quarterbacks. We have struggling.
- 24:05See this is another. This is this is a Christian
- 24:08McCaffrey Asterix. If he can stay healthy, then he
- 24:11is going to be the workout horse for Dallas.
- 24:13You've got George Pickens, you've got CD Lamb, and Dallas
- 24:17is always a run first team. You have a new head coach who
- 24:21truly got this because he was just in the right place at the
- 24:24right time. He's not.
- 24:25No one wanted Schottenheimer as Dallas head coach.
- 24:28He just kind of is there now. Well, I guess, I guess he.
- 24:32Well, yeah, because he's a yes man.
- 24:33And Jerry loves to run the football first.
- 24:35Because he's still dreaming about Emmett Smith.
- 24:37He still has a dream that, oh, this is Detroit Smith.
- 24:40My urban days. It's not.
- 24:43And so they're a run for his team and they're A and DAC is a
- 24:46dump the ball off kind of quarterback.
- 24:49And so for the same reasons as Alvin Kamara, just different
- 24:52type quarterback, he's going to get over utilized and he's going
- 24:55to rack up a bunch of points. I have Javonte Williams on my
- 24:58list number 7 and I'm sticking beside it that.
- 25:02Is a very interesting pick. I would not.
- 25:07I would not have gone that route, but.
- 25:10I don't care. I put Kyron Williams at #7
- 25:15because in both of his relevant seasons in the NFL, he has
- 25:19finished at #7 in fantasy. One of those years he only
- 25:22played twelve games, but he still finished at seven, and
- 25:24last year he finished at 7:00, so I'm putting him at 7.
- 25:28Let's move on to #8 Who's your number 8 fantasy running back?
- 25:32Alvin Kamara. Me too.
- 25:36Really. Wait, I'm.
- 25:39Coming. I'm great.
- 25:40I did not have him on my top ten.
- 25:41He he came in at 11 for me. Boo everybody, Boo Joel, Boo
- 25:46boo's in the chats. We're supposed to be on the same
- 25:50team. Effing the chat for Joel.
- 25:53I'm switching teams to no, to will or to somebody I don't know
- 26:00but. Will, you've kind of said it
- 26:01before, kind of for the reason why you think Camaro is going to
- 26:04be a good fantasy running back this year.
- 26:06Dude, their quarterback sucks, right?
- 26:09They don't have a good option. They have no option.
- 26:12He's a rookie quarterback who couldn't start at Oregon, where
- 26:17I mean, let's be honest, he is not great.
- 26:20His one season at college, not great.
- 26:22Got picked 40 bit of a reach and so here he is.
- 26:26I was being polite just like you were with my pick for Geronte
- 26:29Williams. You were being polite.
- 26:33I just, they, they also, the Saints also have none other than
- 26:37Kellen Moore as their head coach, right?
- 26:40And so here we are at not a great head coach, not a great
- 26:44quarterback. So they're going to rely on
- 26:47their workhorse running back. Now, that is also, again, if he
- 26:51comes back healthy and can remain healthy, but he's gonna
- 26:54have to have a safety net. And Albert Kamara could
- 26:57legitimately have 400 catches this year because what's his
- 27:01bucket? Just can't throw the ball.
- 27:03True. Yeah, I, I didn't put him on my
- 27:05list because although he did finish 5th in points per game
- 27:09last year and 9th overall, he has missed at least two games
- 27:13every season since 2019. And so I mean, it kind of
- 27:17contradicts my Christian McCaffrey thing, but I just feel
- 27:19like the, the, I feel like the reward with Christian McCaffrey
- 27:24could outweigh the risk. There's a higher ceiling there
- 27:27for sure. All right, so I have Devon HN at
- 27:31#8, and I just I just feel like he is one of the best weapons
- 27:35that the dolphins have. I mean he had 78 catches last
- 27:39year and you know that was probably because tua missed some
- 27:42games. And so the quarterback just
- 27:44dumps it off to the running back, but he is an explosive
- 27:46player. He's going to get his catches.
- 27:48They're going to utilize him because he's one of the best
- 27:51players that they have on offense.
- 27:52He's one of the most explosive players that they have.
- 27:55I feel like his catches are going to come down, but I feel
- 27:58like he's still going to be up there.
- 27:59The the running backroom for the Dolphins is pretty I mean, I
- 28:04wouldn't say loaded, but it it's got a lot of depth.
- 28:06And so I feel like they're going to add some more guys into that
- 28:08rotation this year. But when they need an explosive
- 28:11play, I mean they have Tyreek Hill and Devon HN Jalen models,
- 28:15OK, but you know, they've got those two guys are really
- 28:18they're explosive players on that offense.
- 28:20And so I feel like he is going to continue to be utilized as he
- 28:25has been. All right, Who's your number 9
- 28:27fantasy running back this year? Devon, it's the same guy.
- 28:32I should have gone 1st and you could change your mind and put
- 28:34him in. Eight.
- 28:35Yeah, well, you did go first just before me, somehow.
- 28:39Your last. I know the last 8 was my first
- 28:42nine. So for the same reasons, I think
- 28:44he's good, but I think I have him low.
- 28:47I would have actually had him higher if I thought Tua was
- 28:50going to be injured again. But I'm being irresponsibly
- 28:54optimistic on Tua's health, and so I think he's going to be
- 28:58around. And then get his money.
- 29:01Yeah, just wait till you see where I'm Tyree kill listed.
- 29:05Oh, no. Oh, jeez.
- 29:09OK, All right. Will, who's your number 8
- 29:13running back? Nine.
- 29:14Are we on 9/9? Will, who's your number 9
- 29:16running back? Very nine.
- 29:17It's. All I have DeAndre Swift, the
- 29:21Chica go Bills. I know it's the bears, but
- 29:23that's a New Girl reference. I look, yeah, I mean, see Alvin
- 29:30Kamara at #8 right, new head coach.
- 29:32He's going to start off conservative, Ben, but it's Ben
- 29:35Johnson. And I literally wrote down in my
- 29:37notes, Ben Johnson question mark.
- 29:39We don't know. We have the Lions, right?
- 29:42And we have what he did the Lions.
- 29:44And guess what? Jamir Gibbs did pretty good last
- 29:47year. And so now he's in Chicago.
- 29:49And listen, Caleb Williams is bad.
- 29:51I don't know who needs to hear this.
- 29:53And so I'll say it again, Caleb Williams is bad.
- 29:57He is not a good quarterback. He wasn't good at USC.
- 30:02He wasn't good anywhere else in college.
- 30:04He is not good now, granted, better than you.
- 30:08Yeah, I know Internet. He's better than me.
- 30:10And not a professional quarterback.
- 30:13Any of whom DeAndre Swift is going to have to.
- 30:16I mean, they're going to have to have some sort of offense and
- 30:17they're just going to start handing the ball off again and
- 30:19again. DJ Moore is going to take a huge
- 30:22hit. I don't even have him listed in
- 30:23my top 10 for receivers because of that.
- 30:26Because as we talked about already, whoever's putting these
- 30:30practice tapes out of these quarterbacks and receivers, oh,
- 30:34how good they're doing. I don't know who's got their
- 30:37whatever it's saying in their cross they say for Kayla
- 30:40Williams, but they're putting some Spike film out on him.
- 30:44But him missing the net multiple times.
- 30:46You going to see that when you're doing a drill where he's
- 30:48throwing into a net and he misses like four in a row and he
- 30:50storms away like a toddler. Like, dude, come on.
- 30:54And maybe it's maybe it's Bears can't doing that to throw
- 30:57everybody have to sense. But usually you do that when the
- 31:01guy's already good and say, oh, he's having an off year.
- 31:03Well, he's having an off career. I can't wait for when we have a
- 31:06Our Bears fan as a guest come on the show on August 18th and Will
- 31:11and he and Will are just going to go at it.
- 31:13I feel like Avery and I have both said good things about
- 31:16Caleb Williams and the Bears. We've also said some bad things,
- 31:18but we've said some good things. But Will hates pretty much
- 31:21everybody so. Dude I am the hater and that's
- 31:25why like. With the bears, I'm like that.
- 31:28That abusive, weirdly emotional boyfriend who abuses them but
- 31:34then says they love them. Like no like you're sweet
- 31:36though, but. You deserve this.
- 31:39You made me do this to you. Sit in this hot cock.
- 31:45Right, my number 9, I have Packers running back Josh Jacobs
- 31:50and I just feel like the Packers leaned.
- 31:58The Packers leaned heavily on Josh Jacobs last year, and I
- 32:01think they're going to do it again.
- 32:03He finished the season with at least one touchdown run in his
- 32:06last eight games, and I think he's going to continue the
- 32:09success he had towards the second-half of last year.
- 32:12Going into this season #10 who do you guys have as your number
- 32:1510 fantasy running back this year?
- 32:17Cuba. Cuba.
- 32:19Rubber Cuba. I don't.
- 32:21Understand that the Panthers are up, not super up, but they're up
- 32:26from where they were, which was really low.
- 32:28So I feel like it's hard to disagree with that statement,
- 32:34but I think Tuba's been getting better every year.
- 32:37I think he's gonna. I think he's gonna hit it.
- 32:39Oklahoma State Cowboy, right Tuba Hubbard.
- 32:41I don't care. All right, well, who do you have
- 32:45at Ted? Hold on, I want to find the
- 32:47answer to my question. Yeah, he is.
- 32:49He doesn't really know, he just said that just to no he was.
- 32:52Just 2021. Yeah, he's Oklahoma State.
- 32:54I have Kyron Williams, see Jill's answer at #7.
- 32:58Except I ranked him at 7:00 because he was 7, so that answer
- 33:01doesn't make sense. That logic is definitely not ten
- 33:07you. Idiot.
- 33:09I'm using rail for some of my logic here.
- 33:12He's been 7 the last two years, so it's going to be 7 again, but
- 33:16no way possible. Is someone going to finish first
- 33:20twice? No way.
- 33:23But this guy 7 three times in a row?
- 33:26Yeah, maybe they do. Listen to the show Trouble.
- 33:33All right, I have Bucky Irving at 10.
- 33:35I just think that there's so many weapons on that offense
- 33:38that, you know, Bucky Irving towards the last half of last
- 33:41season, he really took over. He started, you know, being the
- 33:44the kind of the primary running back.
- 33:46But I feel like that offense just has so many weapons that
- 33:49it's going to be hard for any one player on that offense aside
- 33:53from Baker Mayfield to be like ranked super, super high.
- 33:59There's only one football and you got to spread it around to
- 34:02all these guys. And you know, there's Mike
- 34:05Evans, there's Tez Johnson, there's Emeka Buka, there's
- 34:07Chris Godwin, there's Kate On, there's Bucky Irving, there's
- 34:10Rashad White, there's all these guys that the football has to go
- 34:13to. And so I don't think there's
- 34:15going to be one guy that's going to be like super, super ranked
- 34:19high, but I think that they're all going to do fairly well.
- 34:23Item at 7:00. So this is all.
- 34:25This is all point. I am a six SO.
- 34:32Well, wins. Yeah, it's fine.
- 34:34Whatever. I'm not cool or anything.
- 34:37I just know how I am so. So.
- 34:45Let's move on to our top 10 receivers and then if we have
- 34:47time at the end, we'll do, we'll do some sleeper running backs
- 34:51and wide receivers if we have time.
- 34:53So Avery, who is your #1 fantasy wide receiver this year?
- 34:57Jamal Chase. Same same.
- 35:03I also have that one. Yeah.
- 35:05Hey, we get it guys. I think we can speak.
- 35:09Do we have the right on that one?
- 35:12I'll just say unlike the running backs and quarterbacks, there
- 35:15have been multiple receivers that have finished number one in
- 35:19points in back-to-back seasons. So in 2001 and 2002, Marvin
- 35:25Harrison did it. In 2008 and 2009 it was Andre
- 35:28Johnson. Then in 11 and 12 it was Calvin
- 35:30Johnson and then in 14/15/16 and 17 it was Antonio Brown.
- 35:36I think people forget how good he was.
- 35:39It's all recently bias of him taking his pads off in Tampa Bay
- 35:42and his rap videos and his adult videos.
- 35:47ESPN yeah, yeah, Cracker of the year, that's.
- 35:51But I. He was good though.
- 35:53He was so good, he. Was very good he.
- 35:55Was unbelievable. Like if you got him in Madden,
- 35:58just have him run a straight crowd.
- 36:00You're just going to touch that every single time.
- 36:02He was so good. Four straight years.
- 36:04So yeah, I don't think there's really any question that is from
- 36:07our Chase. OK, who's your number 2 fantasy
- 36:10wide receiver this year? Do either of you guys not have
- 36:12Justin Jefferson right here? I don't.
- 36:15Of course I don't. Do you know what?
- 36:17CD Lamb? I do have CD glam, actually,
- 36:21because JJ McCarthy sucks. That don't sucks.
- 36:25I do know that. I watched him.
- 36:26He's a large. Ball.
- 36:28That doesn't mean it's his second rookie season.
- 36:31Oh, sorry, I'm thinking of Mike McCarthy.
- 36:34I thought you were talking about he's like.
- 36:37What I don't know. He's still.
- 36:39Hanging around there. Listen, listen.
- 36:41I have Justin Jefferson at at #4 it's not like he bumped him out
- 36:45of my top five. He's #4 but I don't that team is
- 36:51going to be less good offensively and that whole
- 36:53offense is going to take a hit because Justin Jefferson.
- 36:56Michigan. I am not a big fan, but it's not
- 37:00that's not actually why JJ McCarthy.
- 37:03JJ McCarthy just isn't that good of a ball thrower and I'm
- 37:06willing to be wrong. Put it on the damn spreadsheet
- 37:08for LA Care. He just.
- 37:10Isn't better than you. I mean, yeah.
- 37:25I mean, yeah, you got. Move it.
- 37:29You got me. All right, I'll move them on my
- 37:32list. Right now.
- 37:32I'm doing it. No, I have CD Lamb here.
- 37:35Why do you have CD Lamb too? Because I'm a Dallas homework
- 37:38clearly look at the thing. No, I just even with DAC being
- 37:44out and even with DAC being kind of terrible, CD Lamb still puts
- 37:49up good numbers. And just like Justin Jefferson
- 37:51is going to put up good numbers. I just I just think that the
- 37:56acquisition of George Pickens is going to help CD Lamb.
- 38:00All right. Who do you guys have?
- 38:02That high is wild. You're wild and dumb.
- 38:05Wait, do you have CD Lamb in your top ten?
- 38:07Anybody. Somewhere, not that, not not too
- 38:11high, not at #2. All right, who's your third
- 38:15ranked fantasy wide receiver this year?
- 38:18It's CD Lamb this. Is the stupidest thing I've ever
- 38:30done. I think he's really good.
- 38:44Not #2 but three. Maybe you set that up so
- 38:51perfectly it. Was all based on Joel asking me
- 38:58who my next guy was. I had to like, get it right in
- 39:01there. It's getting hot.
- 39:07That's great. That's great.
- 39:10For all the reasons Will said. Just a little bit like a little
- 39:12bit lower. They were one spot lower.
- 39:19I have CD land at #4. But I but.
- 39:25Will got mad at me last time for skipping so I'll I'll go back to
- 39:28my #3 real quick. So #3 I have Ammon raw St.
- 39:32Brown, same. So we have the same top 4 in a
- 39:37little bit different order. And I, Justin Jefferson, before
- 39:40you have CD Lamb, before we have the same 4 receivers in the top
- 39:43four slot. Wait, Avery, who's your #4?
- 39:46Tyree kill. Oh.
- 39:48Boo, wait a minute. I'm, I'm around it.
- 39:51I thought you, I'm sorry, I thought you already said who you
- 39:53had it for. I'm just messing up here, CD,
- 39:55Joel started. Jumping ahead just we all
- 39:57started jumping ahead. I thought you were just talking
- 39:59to me, Will. We have the top three together.
- 40:02But well, you and I have the same top 4.
- 40:04OK, you and I have the same top 4, yes.
- 40:07Who's? Your.
- 40:08Who are your four? Who don't you have in there,
- 40:10Avery? I have Jamar, Justin.
- 40:12CD Tyreek Yeah, he does. Not have same brown, same brown,
- 40:15OK. Yeah, so I have St.
- 40:18Brown as #3 because the last two years he's been #3.
- 40:22Oh my gosh. And he's had a minimum of 90
- 40:28catches every single year in his career, a minimum of 90.
- 40:31The last three years, he's had at least 100 catches every year.
- 40:33So he's gonna be up there. Will, who's your you had?
- 40:37I'm gonna Ross St. Brown is #3 Yeah.
- 40:39OK, yes, cool. OK.
- 40:41I answered my question while I was asking you the question.
- 40:43All right, Avery, who's your wait?
- 40:44You have dirty kill, right? Yep #4 let me just.
- 40:47Officially ask who's your #4 fantasy wide receiver this year.
- 40:50Tyree Kill, that's my guy. I think he's going to stay
- 40:58healthy and I think he's going to micromanage to A to make sure
- 41:02he doesn't get hurt. And I think they're going to
- 41:05have a good, healthy, strong business, professional football
- 41:09relationship. And they're going to throw a lot
- 41:10of passes to Tyreke. And I think he's going to run
- 41:13the ball a lot with the ball in his hand.
- 41:15And I think he's going to go in the end zone a lot.
- 41:18And I think he's going to do it probably like the 4th best out
- 41:22of all the receivers. Did you guys see the video where
- 41:25Tyreke Bill said that he didn't know the playbook for the first
- 41:28three years he was in Miami? Booby Miles didn't know the
- 41:31playbook. Look how that turned out for
- 41:33him. His has sprained MCO out for
- 41:35career. Dude never even got checked up
- 41:41he just the doctor just showed him this MRI, he freaked out
- 41:44left. They never figured out like what
- 41:46the timetable was. He just assumed his career was
- 41:48over. Yes I do.
- 41:50Never even asked. It's over.
- 41:55I hate that movie. I love it, but I hate that
- 41:57movie. It's so it's like somebody who
- 42:01knows a little bit about football made a football movie
- 42:04and just didn't do any real research.
- 42:06Yeah, anyway. All.
- 42:10Right since. CD Lane.
- 42:12Oh, that's right, that's right. Yeah, since we know everybody's
- 42:15top 4, who's your 5th ranked fantasy wide receiver this year?
- 42:19Drake, London. Anyway, Avery would have up
- 42:22there somewhere. Gotta I gotta I, and at this
- 42:25point now, I've been locked in with the Falcons receivers.
- 42:28I gotta, I gotta stay on that train.
- 42:30Gotta do. It he was one of eight receivers
- 42:33with over well with 100 catches or more last season, so it was a
- 42:37Goodyear. 5th best, 5th best good in my opinion.
- 42:42We're good stats 5th best good. Well, who do you have as your
- 42:475th ranked wide receiver? I have.
- 42:50Tyreek Hill and I was expecting to get some Flack for this, but
- 42:53Avery's got him at 4:00, so I'm actually less crazy than Avery
- 42:57so. I do not have him as a top ten
- 43:00wide receiver. I for all the reasons, Avery
- 43:03said. I think that he's going to
- 43:04micromanage what's his face, his health, and make sure old crab
- 43:08hands doesn't get crab hands again, and then they're going to
- 43:11throw the ball a lot and score a lot of touchdowns.
- 43:13I was really worried you were going to have him a lot higher
- 43:16when you said Tyreke's on my other list.
- 43:18I'm like, shoot, I hope he's not higher than 4.
- 43:20I was not expecting either of you to have him in the top 7.
- 43:24I think if he's healthy and has a quarterback to throw to him, I
- 43:26think he's one of the best still in the league.
- 43:28Yeah, great. It's a little bit of a McCaffrey
- 43:30situation, but it's not him getting injured this time, It's
- 43:34the person who needs to throw the ball to him.
- 43:37Yeah, it's the old crab claw. Yeah.
- 43:42Which I shouldn't make one of his alleged terrible.
- 43:45That's terrible. All right #5 I have Malik
- 43:49Neighbors. He finished sixth in total
- 43:54points because he missed two games last year, but if he had
- 43:57played those two games, he would have finished fourth in total
- 44:01points. He was the second most targeted
- 44:04wide receiver out of any receiver in the league last year
- 44:07behind Jamar Chase. He had five less targets in two
- 44:10less games. The Giants are going to throw
- 44:13the ball a lot to Malik Neighbors again this year and so
- 44:17that's why I think should be a top five fantasy wide receiver
- 44:20because he's targeted a lot and when you're targeted a lot,
- 44:23chances are that you're going to have a lot of fantasy points.
- 44:26Which quarterback in New York does him the best, the biggest
- 44:30favors? Who is the best for him?
- 44:32Well, I don't think, I personally don't think that
- 44:35Jackson's art is going to play or at least start unless there
- 44:39is an injury. So Russell Wilson.
- 44:42That didn't necessarily answer my question.
- 44:43Who is the best for him? Don't answer it.
- 44:46Well, this the person who's playing is going to be the best
- 44:49for him. OK.
- 44:51That was a good answer. Tell us a Tyree kill last year
- 44:55when 2 was out because the guy playing was not the best for
- 44:58him. OK, well my league neighbors had
- 45:01Daniel Jones, so. Yeah, dude, Danny Dimes, coach
- 45:05Legend. Did you see that the Colts
- 45:08listed on their depth chart that the starter is either Anthony
- 45:12Richardson or Daniel Jones? No, yeah.
- 45:16That's what they put on their depth chart is Anthony
- 45:18Richardson or Daniel Jones. I hope.
- 45:22You're a Colts fan right now, dude.
- 45:23Dude, those are your choices. When did they draft or?
- 45:31All right, who's your number six fantasy wide receiver this year?
- 45:356 I got Ammon raw. OK, Will.
- 45:38All right, Will, who do you got? I had Malik neighbors.
- 45:43Why were you giving me a hard time about #5?
- 45:45Because 5 is crazy. He was 6 best last year.
- 45:48He gave me 6 best this year. Joel.
- 45:50How would you put in top five? He's not for top five.
- 45:54He only one year. It was his rookie.
- 45:56Season, OK, well, that was going to have a two years.
- 45:59It's going to be the second rookie season.
- 46:00When you're like Kyrie Williams and your 7th 2 years in a row,
- 46:03it makes sense. Well, OK, I guess.
- 46:06I have puka dekua I got. Puka dekua, that's too high.
- 46:12I don't even have him in my top 10.
- 46:14He was sixth in points per game his rookie year and he was third
- 46:16in points per game last year. He missed games last year, but
- 46:19third in points per game. So if he's healthy, then he's
- 46:22going to be up there. I know he has Devante Adams but
- 46:25he had KUKA Cup. It's easy to be higher in points
- 46:28per game when you're playing less games.
- 46:30That's all I What if you play in three games and you score 25
- 46:34points? Those three games, you have 25
- 46:37points per game. Then you don't play the rest of
- 46:38the season. You're going to be first in
- 46:40points per game because you got 25 points per game.
- 46:43Now you missed the majority of the season, but per game he just
- 46:47didn't play in the rest of Yeah, but he.
- 46:48Didn't play. He didn't play one game.
- 46:50He played over half the season. So there's a good sample size
- 46:53there. It's not one game.
- 46:55He's mid. Maybe he's all right.
- 46:57In my opinion, he's still the wide receiver one for the Rams.
- 47:00It's not Devonte Adams. I worry that Matt Stafford
- 47:03disagrees because Matthew Stafford's also old and he's an
- 47:06asserts the old guy. I don't think that means
- 47:08anything. I think he has an in game
- 47:11connection with Nikua already and I think it's going to take a
- 47:14little bit of time for him and Adams to get that connection and
- 47:17so I think Nikua is going to be his go to guy.
- 47:19Although Aaron Rodgers and Matt Stafford throw the ball very
- 47:22similarly and so I bet it's not as far away as people think.
- 47:26I guess we'll see who's just who's your 7th ranked fantasy
- 47:30wide receiver? I got, I know, Avery me.
- 47:34Yeah, of course you who can. Nikua.
- 47:36That's too high. 6 is too high. Still not in my top 10.
- 47:43Who do you have then Will? I have Brian Thomas, junior.
- 47:47Hey, we got one we. Got 1 have.
- 47:49Brian Thomas. We we got a couple, but yeah,
- 47:52dudes gonna be I and all of this.
- 47:56What's his face? The dude that plays both ways.
- 48:00I know. This under.
- 48:02That's the one Travis Hunter, Travis, all the Travis Hunter
- 48:04hype's going to be great and everyone's going to fade over
- 48:07and try to stop the ball over there and Brian Thomas reap the
- 48:10reward. That's exactly my thoughts.
- 48:13I sounded so sad saying that because it's the Jaguars and
- 48:15they're just going to be perpetually bad and Trevor
- 48:18Lawrence is just perpetually bad.
- 48:20And I just look, they need to get Tom Coughlin back in the
- 48:23building, I guess. But I just, I don't have any
- 48:26high hopes that team as a whole, I don't want any Jaguars players
- 48:30on my fantasy team because of that.
- 48:32But I had to take any probably him.
- 48:34Yep, I I have him at 7 for the same reason.
- 48:36I think that when Travis Hunter is on offense, the defense is
- 48:41going to want to stop him, which is going to open things for
- 48:43Brian Thomas junior. I think the defenders are going
- 48:46to want to stop the hockey two way player who just won the
- 48:50Heisman and that's going to be a mistake because that's going to
- 48:53open a lot of stuff for Brian Thomas Junior.
- 48:55So that's why I haven't met 7. All right, who do you guys have
- 48:57as your 8th fantasy wide receiver?
- 48:59I got A.J. Brown.
- 49:01I also have A.J. Brown, Joe.
- 49:04I'm Drake London. No, take it back. 10.
- 49:07Actually no, I'm cool with that one there since he wasn't a
- 49:09pair, but AJ better be the next one.
- 49:11He's he's my. I won't say.
- 49:13Don't say 10. Honorable mention.
- 49:21AJ Brown's good. I think he'll be good again.
- 49:24So. Yeah, I just put him a little, I
- 49:26just put him a little bit lower on my list because of the style
- 49:29of offense. They they focused a lot on
- 49:33running the ball and they're going to do the same thing.
- 49:35I think teams are going to stop, you know, focus on stopping
- 49:38Saquon Barkley. So that's why I did put him in
- 49:41my top ten because he wasn't in the top ten last year.
- 49:44But I put him in the top ten this year because I think
- 49:47they're going to focus more on stop being Barkley.
- 49:49And so Jalen Hurts is going to have to throw the ball a little
- 49:52bit more than he did last year. All right, what do you guys have
- 49:54as your 9th ranked fantasy quarter or wide receiver?
- 49:56Sorry. I have Brian Thomas for the
- 49:58reasons y'all gave. I have Drake London because I
- 50:02don't trust Michael Pennix. We were close, we were close, we
- 50:06were I don't know if you guys are going to like my #9 take or
- 50:08not. If it's my #10 I'm going to be
- 50:10upset. It's Nico Collins for the
- 50:13Houston Texans. Damn it, dude.
- 50:16I have him at #10 all. Right.
- 50:18Well, now you know my whole list.
- 50:21Well, I had A.J. Brown at 10, so.
- 50:23Oh, OK. All right.
- 50:24Yeah, I like Nico Collins. I like Nico Collins a lot
- 50:27because of his connection with CJ Stroud.
- 50:30He does have a little bit of an injury risk because in the last
- 50:33two seasons he hasn't played a full year.
- 50:35He's had some injuries, but when he's in, he's good.
- 50:38And this year they have a few new receivers.
- 50:42A couple of them are rookies. They've got Jayden Higgins and
- 50:45Jalen Knoll on that team. And they also have Christian
- 50:48Kirk, who is an experienced receiver, but he's new to that
- 50:51team. And so the only, you know, good
- 50:54receiver on that team that has a connection with Stroud is Nico
- 50:56Collins. So I think he's going to be up
- 50:58there in the top 10 because of that.
- 51:01I love that. That's why I have him as 10.
- 51:03All right. What?
- 51:03Do you guys think, do we have time for a couple of sleepers?
- 51:06I got some for running back. OK, give us one fantasy running
- 51:10back sleeper Avery. Oh, Marion Hampton, of course.
- 51:16I think it could be big. I think he breaks through with
- 51:18that later first round status, but performs the same as the top
- 51:23half of the first round Running backs from the past.
- 51:26What is it, 1213 years? Even with Naji Harris there.
- 51:30Yeah, I think Naji Harris gets hurt.
- 51:33Or Tonya Harding. I take you.
- 51:34Remember, comes back I. Think he gets hurt even though
- 51:37he hasn't missed the game his whole career?
- 51:38He's currently hurt, isn't he? He has a superficial eye injury.
- 51:42He's supposed to be ready for the start of the season.
- 51:44What's a superficial eye injury? I don't know exactly.
- 51:47He got poked in the eye. What does that mean?
- 51:49No, it was. That sounds like he got poked in
- 51:51the eye. Superficial.
- 51:52That's what poked in the eye. It works.
- 51:54He got, he got JPP. He got flashbacks.
- 51:56Except he didn't blow his eye off.
- 51:58Will. Do you have any sleepers for
- 52:00either running back or wide receiver this year?
- 52:02I like Tony Pollard. Now, granted, I like Tim
- 52:05McDonald. Did good there.
- 52:07Cam Ward. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna
- 52:09harp with him. Harp on him as much as I've
- 52:11harped on all these other guys. I just don't have a lot of faith
- 52:14in the Titans organization. And when Derek Henry was there,
- 52:17they relied heavily on a running game and they are still going to
- 52:20do that. They get new quarterback in, but
- 52:23they're still need to, they still need to run the ball to be
- 52:27successful. And Cam, we're going to have to
- 52:29have that. So I like Tony Pollard.
- 52:30I like that. I think that's a good pick.
- 52:32Thank you. I appreciate that.
- 52:33All right, somebody asked me now.
- 52:35Hey, Joel, Time we had for today.
- 52:43One of your. Sleepers.
- 52:44Who's one of? Your honorable mentions.
- 52:48Hey, Joel, who, who do you like? Sleeping on us?
- 52:51Yeah. Who's who's, Who's sleeping?
- 52:53Who's sleeping? Who's sleeping?
- 52:54With these days. On the list Who's on?
- 52:57Your somebody somebody asked me the question so I could put it
- 53:01on social media. Don't hate the what man?
- 53:04Are you sleeping with what, man are you sleeping with?
- 53:08Joel? Tell us.
- 53:10Avery, who's sleeping on your list?
- 53:13All right, Joe, which one of these fantasy work running backs
- 53:16more receivers you have as a sleeper this year?
- 53:17Who's your favorite fantasy sleeping mad?
- 53:27Please put that on the Internet. He has us ask him one question.
- 53:34I tried really hard. All right, one more time.
- 53:37Here we go. All right, take one.
- 53:38First take, First take. All right, ignores one time.
- 53:41Hey Joe, you like fantasy football?
- 53:44We just went over our top 10s. Who else you got?
- 53:46Maybe, maybe a sleeper. It's down a little bit further
- 53:48on the list. Maybe a late round guy.
- 53:49We can pick it up in around 10 to 15.
- 53:51Who you got? Who?
- 53:54I don't know if he's going to be that far down, but I have
- 53:56Jaguars running back Travis Etn, all right, all right, as a
- 53:59fantasy sleeper. So last year, he finished as the
- 54:0335th overall running back on ESPN's rankings.
- 54:07He's currently ranked 37th, but in 2023 he finished as the third
- 54:11overall running back. He's only one season removed
- 54:13from finishing third overall in fantasy.
- 54:15Prior to last year, he had two straight 1000 yard rushing
- 54:18seasons. And you know, last year he was
- 54:21hurt a little bit. Trevor Lawrence was hurt a
- 54:22little bit. So Tank Bigsby was the leading
- 54:25rusher for that team. But they have Liam Cohen as
- 54:29their head coach and look what he was able to do with Bucky
- 54:31Irving and Rashad White. Both of those running backs
- 54:34finished in the top 22 in fantasy last year.
- 54:37And I think he's going to try and create a similar offense
- 54:40with the Jaguars. And so I think that both Tank
- 54:43Bixby and Travis CTN are going to have a significant role for
- 54:46that team. And so I think that Travis CTN,
- 54:48he's still the starter. I think he's going to to get the
- 54:52majority of the touches. Even though Tank Bixby will
- 54:55contribute, I think it's going to be Travis CTN.
- 54:57And I think Liam Cohen's going to do what he did with Bucky
- 55:01Irving and Rashad White with Travis CTN and Tank Bixby, and
- 55:05they're both going to have a nice season this year.
- 55:08That was very well thought out. Thank you, Joe.
- 55:10You feel bad for all the stuff we were saying earlier.
- 55:14Question. I'm leaving all that in.
- 55:19Good, yes. All right.
- 55:23Well, next week for our fantasy rankings, we're going to talk
- 55:27about our top 10 fantasy tight ends.
- 55:30And then I haven't decided to win.
- 55:33I haven't decided yet if we're going to do our top 10 defenses
- 55:36and kickers. We might just cut it to five.
- 55:39I think we'll just do 5 probably because nobody really wants to
- 55:41talk about kickers and defenses that much.
- 55:44So we'll do our top ten tight ends, we'll do our top five
- 55:46kickers and our top five defenses for fantasy.
- 55:50And then the week after that, we have our guest from Bear Den
- 55:54Live coming on with us. We're going to talk about the
- 55:55Chicago Bears, and I know Will's excited for that one.
- 55:58Dude, I'm going to be sick that day.
- 56:00Is it the 18th? That is the 18th.
- 56:03Yeah, I'm sick that day, guys. I'll be there to even the
- 56:08playing field to keep a balance in case someone starts talking
- 56:12them up. I need to push them back down to
- 56:15reality. Someone has to be there to tell
- 56:18his Bears fan from a Dallas fan that their team's bad and that
- 56:27their organization's messed up. If I say it, that's one thing,
- 56:30but if a Cowboys fan says it, that's rough.
- 56:36All right, well, that's all we have time for today.
- 56:38We'll be back next week with more fantasy football rankings
- 56:41for you. And as always, don't forget to
- 56:43keep your balls played with. We'll see you next time.
- 56:47Also, Mark Davis and Sarah Kyle still sucks.