Latest / The Grounded Show / The Grounded Show #103 - Lil Wayne Vs. Kendrick Super Bowl
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Yo, the song is a classic dog So, don't get
- 0:05Speaker 1: me wrong. Why did h town start knocking the boots with.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Hey Joe, Joe, Dog Joe, he have to dog Joe
- 0:26Speaker 2: disappeared at the most crucial moment we needed.
- 0:29Speaker 3: To break down.
- 0:31Speaker 1: But nah you.
- 0:35Speaker 3: There, we go there weah.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Yeah, the song is fired. Don't get me wrong. Bro.
- 0:40Speaker 1: When you think about it, that's a crazy way to
- 0:42Speaker 1: just start the record. Like you reported the intro first,
- 0:45Speaker 1: so that they did it last. You know, sometimes you
- 0:47Speaker 1: don't got the intro right away, so like it'd be
- 0:49Speaker 1: crazy if that's really just the first thing he did.
- 0:52Speaker 4: When he got you know, someone was in there was like,
- 0:55Speaker 4: oh yeah, oh yeah, that's right, that's the I want
- 1:00Speaker 4: that whole thing back.
- 1:01Speaker 5: Yell right there, yo.
- 1:02Speaker 6: Fact yeah a dog heard the beat and saying, hey,
- 1:05Speaker 6: I got something for that hold up.
- 1:07Speaker 4: Facts No, you know used to do that genuine like
- 1:11Speaker 4: I'm so anxious. He's just used to do them yells.
- 1:13Speaker 5: It's like, I want my man calmed down.
- 1:16Speaker 4: I see the video that said notes like, I see
- 1:19Speaker 4: the video said me and you had eleven thirty and
- 1:22Speaker 4: he said it's nine o'clock where you're being He's like.
- 1:24Speaker 3: It's tent.
- 1:27Speaker 4: He's like, Yo, it's been like forty minutes. We're meeting
- 1:29Speaker 4: at eleven thirty. What you're yelling at me for? That's
- 1:33Speaker 4: what an R and B song used to be, Like,
- 1:35Speaker 4: yeah to yell so that emotion.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Yeah, facts, your R and B is like in a
- 1:41Speaker 1: dope place now. It was like a little iffy for
- 1:44Speaker 1: a little while. Shout out to to Dante and yams Man.
- 1:49Speaker 1: He's been getting that playlist jumping. But like even just
- 1:52Speaker 1: tapping in with that page and seeing all the R
- 1:54Speaker 1: and B artists that's out here, and like the sound
- 1:57Speaker 1: and the vibes and everything, it's like, damn bro. Like
- 2:00Speaker 1: R and B is really coming back. I feel like
- 2:02Speaker 1: people are just even tired of listening to rap, just
- 2:07Speaker 1: from the point of view of like the popular rap,
- 2:09Speaker 1: you know. I mean, the sound got so commercial that
- 2:11Speaker 1: it was like it's like a certain flow right now,
- 2:14Speaker 1: and it's like a lot of people like they kind
- 2:16Speaker 1: of just check out when they hear that flow. Yeah,
- 2:18Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
- 2:20Speaker 4: That's why I like, I know, let's just not good advocate,
- 2:25Speaker 4: But that's why I like Tory lanez Man. I think
- 2:27Speaker 4: he brings the hybrid of the passion in R and
- 2:31Speaker 4: B versus the style of R and B today.
- 2:33Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, yeah, he does, like he tries to
- 2:36Speaker 1: keep it true to like the art form and like
- 2:39Speaker 1: the style even like when he does the JD's influence,
- 2:43Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the the the samples, he's
- 2:48Speaker 1: it's funny, man Like Tory Lanez is like this thing
- 2:51Speaker 1: where like I should like him, I just I just don't.
- 2:55Speaker 1: I don't know what the reason is. Like I like
- 2:57Speaker 1: certain joints from him. I like some of like the
- 3:01Speaker 1: early like the chickstapes, like the first two those were crazy,
- 3:05Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And that concept was super dope.
- 3:08Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, Like some I don't know.
- 3:12Speaker 1: It's like a weird thing that I used to be
- 3:15Speaker 1: so against before, but now I kind of like get
- 3:18Speaker 1: it and I don't know why it happens. But for me,
- 3:21Speaker 1: it's like you can't rap and sing, bro, you know
- 3:24Speaker 1: what I mean. Like it just I'm gonna like one
- 3:28Speaker 1: or the other because it's almost like a conflict of
- 3:31Speaker 1: interest in my mind, you know what I mean. Like
- 3:33Speaker 1: it's like, bro, you either a rapper or a singer.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Like I understand an artist is an artist. I feel
- 3:37Speaker 1: that you know what I mean, But like there's something
- 3:40Speaker 1: about you can't take a really good singer serious as
- 3:42Speaker 1: a rapper and vice versa. You know what I mean?
- 3:45Speaker 3: Is that why you not really a big Drake fan?
- 3:48Speaker 7: No?
- 3:49Speaker 1: I actually was a huge Drake fan when he first
- 3:52Speaker 1: came out, because I felt like he perfected that thing
- 3:55Speaker 1: that everybody had tried to do so many times, which
- 3:57Speaker 1: is kind of what I'm saying, Like it's hard for
- 4:00Speaker 1: like somebody to be like a super dope singer and
- 4:02Speaker 1: a super dope rapper.
- 4:04Speaker 5: Is that why you don't rap anymore on your songs?
- 4:07Speaker 1: I don't rap anymore really, just because my style of
- 4:10Speaker 1: rap is matt old bro, you know what I mean?
- 4:12Speaker 1: Like I was not gonna DiPT because I like rap.
- 4:17Speaker 1: I don't necessarily like how do I say.
- 4:19Speaker 5: It, be like Max Kellerman on there, like yeah.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Facts, Like it's like I like rap in like a
- 4:27Speaker 1: certain style, you know what I mean. I don't like
- 4:29Speaker 1: rap to be like adapting to like how people rapping now,
- 4:33Speaker 1: and like, you know what I mean, Like I just
- 4:35Speaker 1: liked a certain kind of rap and when that rap
- 4:38Speaker 1: went out the window, rap for me went out the window,
- 4:41Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because I wasn't about to
- 4:43Speaker 1: make rap music the other way, you know what I mean,
- 4:45Speaker 1: Like rap to me is like bro like I came
- 4:48Speaker 1: up when we was like battling in the hallways, Like
- 4:51Speaker 1: I came up off the cliche hip hop stuff, you
- 4:53Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I had to like once
- 4:56Speaker 1: I started saying that I rapped, I had to prove
- 4:58Speaker 1: myself in the neighborhood. You know. I mean, like the
- 5:00Speaker 1: older dudes when we was outside playing ball and stuff.
- 5:02Speaker 1: After everything was done, you know, it got dark and everything,
- 5:06Speaker 1: and they, oh, I heard you rap, Let me hear something,
- 5:08Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's the rap that I
- 5:10Speaker 1: came up on there, Like you had to sound good
- 5:12Speaker 1: in front of the person that's right there, you know
- 5:14Speaker 1: what I mean. Like it's just it was just a
- 5:16Speaker 1: whole different style. Even like the sound was different. You
- 5:18Speaker 1: wasn't listening to it really the vibe. It was more
- 5:21Speaker 1: like like you were listening to it for the art
- 5:24Speaker 1: of it, you know what I mean. Like back in
- 5:26Speaker 1: the day, I feel like listening to rap was like
- 5:29Speaker 1: you was almost like going on a ride, like it
- 5:31Speaker 1: was an adventure type thing, you know what I mean,
- 5:33Speaker 1: Like you ain't know what you was gonna hear just
- 5:35Speaker 1: from the point of view of like what they were saying,
- 5:37Speaker 1: because they were playing so much thought in the lyrics
- 5:39Speaker 1: and the things that they were saying that that's how
- 5:42Speaker 1: it came across when you listen to it, like you
- 5:44Speaker 1: would hear the way a dude put together an intro
- 5:47Speaker 1: to an album and it will blow your mind, like dang, bro,
- 5:50Speaker 1: Like how did he come up with that? You know
- 5:51Speaker 1: what I mean? Like song concepts, different things like that,
- 5:54Speaker 1: like Bro, that is dead, bro. And as soon as
- 5:57Speaker 1: that died, my rap phase died with it, you know
- 6:01Speaker 1: what I mean, Because I wasn't trying to rap no
- 6:03Speaker 1: other way. I was trying to rap that way, you know.
- 6:05Speaker 6: I think, I think a good way to kind of
- 6:07Speaker 6: put it is like if you think to the rap
- 6:10Speaker 6: era that you're talking about, you could really listen to
- 6:12Speaker 6: that acapella and enjoy it. A lot of the stuff
- 6:15Speaker 6: that we hear now, you know what I mean, Like
- 6:17Speaker 6: if you took the beat away, you took the mixing away,
- 6:20Speaker 6: it's not really much there, you know what I mean.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Yeah, And that kind of goes back to the NAS thing.
- 6:25Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people say NAS was picking
- 6:27Speaker 1: whack Beach before, which I agree that he wasn't picking
- 6:30Speaker 1: the best beach. That that's for sure I would agree with.
- 6:33Speaker 1: But it's like, I'm not listening to nas for the production,
- 6:36Speaker 1: you know what, I'm listening to what? Bro? Sometimes I
- 6:39Speaker 1: don't even catch what's going on in the beach. I
- 6:41Speaker 1: might listen to the song X amount of years later
- 6:44Speaker 1: and be like, oh, dang, this beat had this sound
- 6:46Speaker 1: in it, or like, oh that was a dope switch
- 6:48Speaker 1: up or whatever. You know what I'm saying, I'm not
- 6:50Speaker 1: listening to the beats when I'm listening to the nas dog,
- 6:52Speaker 1: I'm listening to what the fuck's saying, bro.
- 6:54Speaker 4: And that's that and that's why you and that's why
- 6:57Speaker 4: it makes sense why you love the art of rap
- 6:59Speaker 4: so much that you look has to beat and hear
- 7:01Speaker 4: the music rather than other people will, which definitely, like me,
- 7:05Speaker 4: the beat has to hit first, and then I'm listening
- 7:07Speaker 4: to the lyrics.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think kind of like connecting it to Drake,
- 7:12Speaker 1: I think that's why, Like I said in the beginning,
- 7:15Speaker 1: I like Drake a lot, like his style when he
- 7:17Speaker 1: first came on the scene, and like his first like
- 7:19Speaker 1: two three projects super dope, like the projects before he
- 7:23Speaker 1: dropped like his first mainstream album, like the album, the
- 7:27Speaker 1: first one. Yeah, And it was like I always say, like,
- 7:31Speaker 1: and I've said it before on the podcast, like after
- 7:33Speaker 1: he met Rick Ross, I feel like he just like
- 7:36Speaker 1: turned into this whole other character guy. And it was
- 7:39Speaker 1: like as a rapper, I couldn't respect him after that,
- 7:42Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, I yeah, it's like, bro,
- 7:46Speaker 1: what you're saying now is not real, and like it's
- 7:49Speaker 1: not even coming across as real. It's just coming across
- 7:51Speaker 1: as like some slick stuff you're saying, but you're not
- 7:54Speaker 1: saying nothing. It's just slick words that sound nice over
- 7:57Speaker 1: to be you know, nice little nothings, but it's nothing,
- 8:01Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like to me, it's just
- 8:03Speaker 1: it's the substanceless like the stuff he's talking about the
- 8:06Speaker 1: points of the songs, like all of it to me
- 8:09Speaker 1: is just like fluff, you know what I mean.
- 8:11Speaker 5: Like No, that's why, like.
- 8:12Speaker 4: Like you said, like so far gone, like ignorant shit.
- 8:14Speaker 4: The one he had with Wayne spitting over that Icy
- 8:16Speaker 4: Brothers be like I'm the property of October.
- 8:19Speaker 5: He was just spitting. He wasn't trying to be a character.
- 8:22Speaker 4: He was spitting exactly who he was at that time,
- 8:26Speaker 4: and that that's what made that album so genuine and
- 8:30Speaker 4: so original, because he was literally spitting the life between
- 8:34Speaker 4: being the Grassy Drake and being the rapper Drake, and
- 8:36Speaker 4: it made sense. It wasn't anything spectacular. It's like bring
- 8:40Speaker 4: the sham, playing flutes, rose and some shots sober. I
- 8:42Speaker 4: think better when I'm not sober. It was just like
- 8:45Speaker 4: simple rhymes that sounded great, that made sense to a
- 8:48Speaker 4: rapper like him, and then he went on a different level.
- 8:50Speaker 4: It's like, that's not all right, that's not you anymore, that's.
- 8:52Speaker 5: Not it's not against it.
- 8:55Speaker 6: It's funny y'all say that too, because I actually had
- 8:57Speaker 6: just had a conversation about a new Big Sean album.
- 9:02Speaker 3: You know, if I haven't heard that yet, checking out,
- 9:04Speaker 3: it's pretty dope.
- 9:06Speaker 5: You know.
- 9:06Speaker 6: One of the things I saw was somebody basically saying that,
- 9:09Speaker 6: you know, it was boring because you know, I was
- 9:12Speaker 6: expecting like moves or you know, I don't fuck with
- 9:15Speaker 6: you vibes, and I'm like, bro, the album is literally
- 9:18Speaker 6: about like growth, clarity, love, Like you know, he's speaking
- 9:22Speaker 6: from a thirty six year old man perspective and like
- 9:25Speaker 6: if you think about it and look at listen to
- 9:27Speaker 6: the album. You know, it's an actual album, Like he's
- 9:29Speaker 6: putting songs together and it's not just songs to make
- 9:32Speaker 6: you hype. Like he's putting like real stuff into the music.
- 9:35Speaker 6: So like people not really even listening to it, like
- 9:37Speaker 6: the way you're talking about it though.
- 9:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something though about Big Sean Dog.
- 9:43Speaker 1: There's just it's something there that just doesn't connect with me.
- 9:46Speaker 1: It's just like something that like it doesn't make you
- 9:51Speaker 1: just like want to lock in with his sound, you
- 9:53Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like there was a period yeah
- 9:56Speaker 1: that I had that like Dark Sky Paradise times that album,
- 10:00Speaker 1: uh one, right, the album right before that, you know
- 10:03Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like there you go. No, No, not
- 10:06Speaker 1: finally Famous. It was another one after that.
- 10:08Speaker 3: I decided.
- 10:10Speaker 1: It was another one I might be. I decided, but
- 10:13Speaker 1: is there another one?
- 10:14Speaker 6: I mean, there's a there's Detroit, there's I decided finally famous.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Dark Dark Sky Paradise was fifteen. Oh yeah, I decided.
- 10:23Speaker 1: My bad, It's just I didn't I looked at the
- 10:26Speaker 1: cover in my head, but I didn't remember what it
- 10:28Speaker 1: was called. So yeah, Dark Sky Paradise and I decided
- 10:32Speaker 1: that era of Big Sean I was locked in and
- 10:35Speaker 1: like those albums, Like those albums. I have a lot
- 10:37Speaker 1: of that music like in my library and I rock
- 10:40Speaker 1: with it, you know what I'm saying, But I don't know, bro,
- 10:42Speaker 1: Like it's almost like I kind of put him in
- 10:46Speaker 1: the same category for me, like where I will put
- 10:49Speaker 1: like walle you know what I mean, Like Walla is dope,
- 10:52Speaker 1: and he had an era that I thought was dope too,
- 10:54Speaker 1: But it's just something there that doesn't make me say,
- 10:57Speaker 1: that's one of my top guys. Hey, yo, go ahead.
- 11:03Speaker 4: There's not many rappers who can be so powerful in
- 11:08Speaker 4: their mixtape era and then translate that into an actual
- 11:12Speaker 4: studio album, and.
- 11:14Speaker 1: That that might be what it is, Like I don't
- 11:17Speaker 1: hear the I don't hear that spark with them in
- 11:21Speaker 1: the albums that I like. Listen to it and it
- 11:23Speaker 1: makes me go, like, you know what I mean, Like
- 11:25Speaker 1: what I was talking about, like with Nas like where
- 11:27Speaker 1: like you you listen to the first Now song on
- 11:30Speaker 1: the album and he's saying some stuff that you're like, Bro, he.
- 11:33Speaker 5: Didn't have but he didn't have a big mixtape era.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's he came from a different era, So
- 11:39Speaker 1: he did in his In his era, he did as
- 11:43Speaker 1: far as mad as Coyles, you know what I'm saying.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Like before he dropped Illmatic, he had legendary freestyles. So
- 11:48Speaker 1: he did have his quote unquote mixtape era. It just
- 11:52Speaker 1: wasn't mixtapes at the time. You would just get a
- 11:54Speaker 1: verse here and there on somebody record, you know, you
- 11:56Speaker 1: drop a freestyle over another beat, you know what I'm saying.
- 11:59Speaker 1: But that era for Nas, like his freestyles were legendary,
- 12:02Speaker 1: Like they were talking about his freestyles in New York
- 12:04Speaker 1: like like it was like a like a myth or something,
- 12:08Speaker 1: you know what i mean. Like, Yo, have you heard
- 12:09Speaker 1: that guy Nas and what he said? You know what
- 12:11Speaker 1: i mean? Like it was like on that kind of level.
- 12:14Speaker 1: So he did have his version of the mixtape era.
- 12:17Speaker 1: But then he like you said, he going to ell
- 12:19Speaker 1: Matic and he's still going crazy and you're like, dang, bro,
- 12:22Speaker 1: like this guy is going off like where like and
- 12:27Speaker 1: it's like it's it's kind of like that Jordan Lebron
- 12:29Speaker 1: thing where like stephen A talks about it, like he'll say,
- 12:34Speaker 1: people feel disrespected when you say Lebron is the second
- 12:37Speaker 1: best basketball player of all time, Like you're giving him
- 12:41Speaker 1: the second best of all time, and and you're trying
- 12:44Speaker 1: to tell me like there's no way, you know what
- 12:47Speaker 1: I mean, Like, regardless of how you fall on that
- 12:49Speaker 1: on that argument, like you it's a toss up either way,
- 12:52Speaker 1: but it's like it's a thing of like you're up there,
- 12:56Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like when I talk about
- 12:58Speaker 1: Big Sean Wallet, like when I think of about the
- 13:00Speaker 1: best rappers of the last like ten fifteen years, I
- 13:04Speaker 1: think about them. For sure, they're up there, but they're
- 13:07Speaker 1: not like the ones, you know what I mean, Like, Yeah,
- 13:10Speaker 1: you're up there, You're legendary, You're gonna be remembered like
- 13:12Speaker 1: in rap forever. But it's just, you know what I mean,
- 13:17Speaker 1: Like there's just something there that just doesn't put you
- 13:20Speaker 1: in an upper echelon. You know.
- 13:22Speaker 6: I will say I disagree, not completely though. I Like,
- 13:28Speaker 6: if I'm looking at if I'm comparing Big Sean to
- 13:30Speaker 6: the likes of J Cole and Kendrick Lamar, I will
- 13:33Speaker 6: say the consistency there when it comes to bodies of work,
- 13:36Speaker 6: it's not there. However, I will say that the albums
- 13:40Speaker 6: that I do like or enjoy, I enjoy them completely,
- 13:44Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, like Detroit too.
- 13:46Speaker 1: But this, this is how I'm gonna I'm gonna prove
- 13:49Speaker 1: to you that what you said is not the truth.
- 13:53Speaker 1: So check it out. Think of your best Big Sean album?
- 13:57Speaker 1: Which one is it.
- 14:00Speaker 5: To me? To me?
- 14:02Speaker 3: I decided, I.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Decided, Okay, just whatever it is for you?
- 14:06Speaker 5: Right?
- 14:07Speaker 1: Would you take it over your favorite Kanye album?
- 14:13Speaker 5: Probably not, No, you can.
- 14:15Speaker 1: You can't take it over your favorite j Co album?
- 14:18Speaker 5: You can't.
- 14:18Speaker 3: You can't if you can't.
- 14:20Speaker 1: No, No, would you take my favorite? Right? Right?
- 14:26Speaker 5: Right?
- 14:27Speaker 1: Let's do the experiment. Would you take it over your
- 14:29Speaker 1: favorite album? Would you take it over your favorite NAS album?
- 14:34Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 14:35Speaker 3: I don't know about that one.
- 14:38Speaker 1: Okay, so so far. Let's say two to one? Okay,
- 14:41Speaker 1: would you take it over your favorite jay Z album? No?
- 14:45Speaker 1: Three to one? Would you take it over your favorite
- 14:48Speaker 1: Lil Wayne album?
- 14:50Speaker 5: But there all those rappers are.
- 14:53Speaker 1: But that's exactly what I'm saying. Sean is on the
- 14:56Speaker 1: outside looking in. He's he ain't that top tier.
- 15:00Speaker 5: I'll tell you this. Can I give you some facts.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Let's get it.
- 15:04Speaker 4: Finally famous platinum, my last all finally famous Platinum. Marvin
- 15:08Speaker 4: Gains Shard and They Dance Platinum, Two Cool Summer Tracks Platinum,
- 15:12Speaker 4: Crazy on Dark Skin, Paradise, I Don't Fuck with Your
- 15:16Speaker 4: Triple Platinum, Paradise Platinum, Blessings Platinum, One Man Can't Change
- 15:19Speaker 4: the World Platinum, Play No Games Platinum, Champions Platinum, The
- 15:23Speaker 4: Album Platinum, It Bounce Back Moves, Jump Out the Window Platinum, Latinum, Platinum.
- 15:28Speaker 1: Are you ready? Are you ready with what I'm about
- 15:31Speaker 1: to hit you with?
- 15:32Speaker 3: All Right?
- 15:34Speaker 1: You remember when Atlanta was the number one seed at
- 15:37Speaker 1: the East for like three years straight? The Hawks remember that?
- 15:41Speaker 1: You remember that? Right? They win like sixty games a year,
- 15:43Speaker 1: fifty five sixty something, you know, sixty two, low sixties.
- 15:47Speaker 1: I mean it was going crazy. They were sweeping Cleveland
- 15:49Speaker 1: in the regular series, right, I mean in the regular season, right, Bro?
- 15:53Speaker 1: When they got to the playoffs. They never ever ever
- 15:56Speaker 1: beat Lebron one game. He swept them every time.
- 15:59Speaker 3: But I mean, they're not a good team.
- 16:01Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're not a good team, but it
- 16:03Speaker 1: means they're not upper echelon, but the upper if they're
- 16:09Speaker 1: little boys, but looking in, they're not top tier. Bro.
- 16:13Speaker 3: But but you're you're competing.
- 16:15Speaker 6: No, no, no, wait, no, Like, basically, eighty percent of the
- 16:20Speaker 6: rappers that you named are from an era before Big Sean.
- 16:23Speaker 6: That's like we said no, no, no, wait wait, that's like
- 16:25Speaker 6: me saying e e right, and those are top dogs.
- 16:31Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is this. What I'm saying is
- 16:32Speaker 6: this is that's like making the argument that if Lebron
- 16:36Speaker 6: was in MJ's time, who you know, who will be
- 16:39Speaker 6: better or whatever?
- 16:40Speaker 3: Like that's literally making that argument.
- 16:42Speaker 1: You can't. This is the argument.
- 16:45Speaker 4: And there was a younger team than Lebron, and so
- 16:48Speaker 4: this is his era where I just spent That's when
- 16:52Speaker 4: that's like watch your Throne era. That's when jay Z
- 16:54Speaker 4: and Kanye were still dropping music.
- 16:57Speaker 1: But this is my point. I feel like you guys
- 17:02Speaker 1: are giving him honorary goat status. No no, no, no, no no no,
- 17:06Speaker 1: I remember giving him that you're trying to give him.
- 17:09Speaker 1: You're trying to give him.
- 17:10Speaker 5: He kept up, he kept up.
- 17:12Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, the buddy pat on the back, like, no,
- 17:14Speaker 1: he's the goat man, No, he trust me, man, he's
- 17:16Speaker 1: one of the goats. He's not one of the goats.
- 17:18Speaker 3: All I said was the album was good.
- 17:21Speaker 1: No no, But that's what I'm saying. My whole argument
- 17:24Speaker 1: from the beginning was he's dope, but I don't look
- 17:27Speaker 1: at him as a top tier rapper, you know, top
- 17:30Speaker 1: tiers rapper.
- 17:31Speaker 3: No I was.
- 17:33Speaker 6: I would definitely say he's in my So what would
- 17:37Speaker 6: you fifteen?
- 17:38Speaker 3: Maybe top both.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Of y'all, let's do that. So we got to set
- 17:41Speaker 1: the scale. No, there's the Goat's topats, so goat then
- 17:46Speaker 1: top tier. Yeah, so in that scale, I would put
- 17:49Speaker 1: Big Sewan top tier.
- 17:51Speaker 5: Same.
- 17:51Speaker 3: Agree, he's in my top fifteen maybe ten.
- 17:56Speaker 1: There you go, top fifteen.
- 17:57Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in.
- 17:59Speaker 4: He's in that space, and that's why all those rapper
- 18:01Speaker 4: names are a buve h for sure on that level.
- 18:05Speaker 5: But I don't built him any lower than that.
- 18:08Speaker 1: That's the thing. So you guys, I feel like y'all
- 18:10Speaker 1: have him rated where he needs to be rated. Yeah,
- 18:13Speaker 1: people be trying to act like he's on that up level.
- 18:16Speaker 1: He's not on that up level. Bro. He's nice and
- 18:19Speaker 1: he's dope, and I like Big Sean, but bro, you're
- 18:22Speaker 1: not going to put him against the top ten rappers
- 18:25Speaker 1: of all time.
- 18:25Speaker 3: I mean, he's not j or nothing like that.
- 18:30Speaker 4: When I watched Big Shot and knew when I watched
- 18:33Speaker 4: Big Show's Tiny Desk, which was this year, and I
- 18:35Speaker 4: was like, my guy had them. You got every single
- 18:39Speaker 4: one of them that I loved. That's when I was like,
- 18:42Speaker 4: he's one of my guys.
- 18:44Speaker 3: No, yeah, yeah for sure.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Yeah facts, dog the whole every everybody's trying to talk
- 18:51Speaker 1: right now, Like the ll cool J album went crazy,
- 18:53Speaker 1: Like Bro, No, I.
- 18:55Speaker 5: Didn't even know if there wasn't album.
- 18:56Speaker 1: Bro.
- 18:57Speaker 6: The only reason I knew was because the ad came
- 18:58Speaker 6: up and he was signing vine Bro that album, trying.
- 19:02Speaker 1: Them on there, you know what I mean, Like it's Bro,
- 19:05Speaker 1: It's literally what I was talking about in the beginning.
- 19:07Speaker 1: Dog shout out to Little cool J, pioneer, one of
- 19:10Speaker 1: the cornerstones of hip hop. I won't go that he
- 19:15Speaker 1: ain't in my goat conversation, but he's a pillar.
- 19:18Speaker 3: You can took it to the next level, you know
- 19:20Speaker 3: what I mean.
- 19:21Speaker 1: He marketed it, and without him, who knows where we
- 19:23Speaker 1: would be, you know what I'm saying. So I'm never
- 19:25Speaker 1: gonna take that away from him. But Bro, nobody could
- 19:28Speaker 1: tell me that he's a dope rapper. Bro, especially at
- 19:31Speaker 1: this time. Like that's what I was talking about earlier,
- 19:33Speaker 1: Like there's a certain sound in hip hop that it
- 19:35Speaker 1: just died, and like you just had to let it go. Bro,
- 19:38Speaker 1: Like the people that are still rapping like that and
- 19:40Speaker 1: holding on to it. It's like, bro, if it isn't
- 19:44Speaker 1: from that era, just leave it alone, bro, leave it alone.
- 19:47Speaker 4: What I attribute to him is transcending the hip hop
- 19:49Speaker 4: and R and B track, like doing it loud.
- 19:53Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, these.
- 19:53Speaker 4: Tracks like still to these days, everybody's trying to make
- 19:57Speaker 4: a track like that.
- 19:58Speaker 1: Yeah, I will. I will say that radio songs, bro,
- 20:01Speaker 1: he had it, bro.
- 20:03Speaker 5: Like where the guy and girl just goes back and forth.
- 20:05Speaker 5: He mastered that he.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Had that he knew when he heard them beats, he
- 20:09Speaker 1: knew which ones was the ones, that he knew what
- 20:11Speaker 1: to do on them. That I will say when it
- 20:14Speaker 1: comes to just bangers, like just you know.
- 20:17Speaker 5: Put the guy and girl bangers like where they're talking
- 20:20Speaker 5: to each other.
- 20:21Speaker 1: And it's funny because he was on the Breakfast Club
- 20:23Speaker 1: and you know, he said that when they made Head
- 20:26Speaker 1: Sprung him and Timberland, he said they were literally just
- 20:30Speaker 1: like doing the most random funny lyrics they could do,
- 20:34Speaker 1: Like they were literally just having complete fun with that
- 20:36Speaker 1: song because they knew, like it was going to be
- 20:39Speaker 1: so random that people were just going to talk about
- 20:41Speaker 1: it like that, you know what I mean. So like
- 20:46Speaker 1: it's like he definitely knew how to like lock into
- 20:48Speaker 1: that sound and that vibe and stuff. But brou it's
- 20:52Speaker 1: kind of like the same thing we talked about before,
- 20:54Speaker 1: like with these like rappers that be like holding onto
- 20:58Speaker 1: that old sound and hanging out at like you know,
- 21:02Speaker 1: old bars and doing ciphers and stuff. It's like, bro, like,
- 21:06Speaker 1: y'all don't got to keep pretending this is school dog
- 21:08Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like you could just
- 21:10Speaker 1: listen to newer rap, like now all of it is trash.
- 21:13Speaker 1: You can sift through it and find some dope stuff.
- 21:15Speaker 1: You know. You can't just reject everything new just because
- 21:18Speaker 1: it's not this time capsule of an era that you
- 21:21Speaker 1: want to live in for the rest of your life, right,
- 21:23Speaker 1: so check it.
- 21:24Speaker 4: Speaking of rapper that's transcend do you think Lil Wayne
- 21:29Speaker 4: has reached that pinnacle in his career where he's transcended
- 21:33Speaker 4: every genre of music to where he would deserve to
- 21:37Speaker 4: perform in the super Because that's what jay Z used
- 21:41Speaker 4: as he's excused to choose Kendrick to perform because how
- 21:45Speaker 4: he transcended in music, and I get it. I will
- 21:47Speaker 4: never take that away from Kendrick, but not in New Orleans.
- 21:51Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, Quincy.
- 21:57Speaker 6: I would enjoy Lil Wayne on a a set, like
- 22:00Speaker 6: a collaborative set. I wouldn't enjoy a full and don't
- 22:06Speaker 6: get me wrong, but collapsed that's what I'm saying. Something
- 22:10Speaker 6: like that, and you're bringing out you know what I'm saying,
- 22:13Speaker 6: popular New Orleans songs and stuff.
- 22:14Speaker 3: Like that, that would be fire.
- 22:16Speaker 6: The reason I say that, though, because don't get me,
- 22:18Speaker 6: don't get a twisted Lil Wayne is definitely one.
- 22:21Speaker 3: Of my goals, like hands down.
- 22:24Speaker 6: The only reason I say that, though, is just because
- 22:26Speaker 6: of the occasion and because of I'm looking at it
- 22:30Speaker 6: from a business standpoint and the marketability of crossing over
- 22:34Speaker 6: to all audiences.
- 22:36Speaker 5: He has some songs, but everybody knows the way he
- 22:38Speaker 5: did a rock album.
- 22:40Speaker 6: A But at the same time, it was like the
- 22:43Speaker 6: people when he did the rock album, how many black
- 22:46Speaker 6: and Hispanic people were listening to that?
- 22:47Speaker 4: Everybody said, But he's not trying to get them to
- 22:51Speaker 4: tune into the halftime show. He's trying to get everybody
- 22:53Speaker 4: who doesn't listen to his hip hop album to tune
- 22:55Speaker 4: into the to the happen.
- 22:57Speaker 6: Anybody that doesn't have time show, they already have the
- 23:00Speaker 6: audience that's gonna enjoy the music, right even like when
- 23:05Speaker 6: they have YouTube, even when they had like a band
- 23:07Speaker 6: like YouTube come out there. It's like like even if
- 23:12Speaker 6: you have a band like that, it's like they're worldwide,
- 23:15Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
- 23:16Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 23:16Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like it's a great argument.
- 23:18Speaker 6: It can go either way, But me personally, I would
- 23:21Speaker 6: have preferred him like in a collaborative kind of you
- 23:26Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Maybe like obviously he headlines brings
- 23:29Speaker 6: out like juvenile brings out, you.
- 23:32Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, just like New Orleans artists kind
- 23:34Speaker 3: of vibe like that.
- 23:36Speaker 1: Yeah. The way I feel about this Lil Wayne super
- 23:41Speaker 1: Bowl thing with Kendrick is like, bro, Lil Wayne don't
- 23:45Speaker 1: even do big shows like that, like right now, you
- 23:49Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, you could go see
- 23:53Speaker 1: Lil Wayne in a small venue and not spend a
- 23:55Speaker 1: lot of money. Like when he's on the road. This
- 23:59Speaker 1: guy hasn't had had like a relevant song that was
- 24:03Speaker 1: just him that wasn't just a feature and how long?
- 24:07Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, just like Quincy said, Bro,
- 24:10Speaker 1: like I came up on Lil Wayne, I liked Lil Wayne.
- 24:12Speaker 5: Just like Quinci though.
- 24:15Speaker 1: Let's check this out. I like Lil Wayne before anybody
- 24:19Speaker 1: even liked him. They thought he sounded weird. Bro. You
- 24:21Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He came out with the Carter
- 24:24Speaker 1: one that was when the shift changed, and even Carter
- 24:26Speaker 1: one wasn't like everybody didn't jump on the vandwagon before that. Yeah,
- 24:31Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying, Like, if you were a
- 24:32Speaker 1: Wayne fan, you know the Wayne before Carter one, you
- 24:35Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But Carter one was when people
- 24:37Speaker 1: kind of was like, all right, he's pretty straight, and
- 24:39Speaker 1: then Carter two was when they were like, oh no,
- 24:41Speaker 1: he's guy. Yeah you know what I'm saying. But going
- 24:44Speaker 1: back to what you were saying, Joe about Doctor Dre,
- 24:47Speaker 1: the hits that Lil Wayne has, he don't have like
- 24:51Speaker 1: transcendent songs that just everybody.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Knows like that like Lollipop.
- 24:58Speaker 1: And even Lollipop, it's not everybody knows. Everybody knows, you
- 25:03Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like people, people, Bro, you're overestimating
- 25:07Speaker 1: it because like we will hear Lil Wayne all the time,
- 25:11Speaker 1: like the people were around like Lil Wayne, but Lil
- 25:13Speaker 1: Wayne is not on that level. Bro, Like you just
- 25:16Speaker 1: look at like his his numbers even like they're up there,
- 25:20Speaker 1: It's it's kind of like in no way, shape or form.
- 25:23Speaker 1: I'm trying to compare him a big Sean but it's
- 25:25Speaker 1: kind of like that, like as far as like a
- 25:27Speaker 1: big act. Lol Wayne is up there, but he's not
- 25:30Speaker 1: on that level like of like what Quincy's talking about,
- 25:33Speaker 1: like a big arena artist.
- 25:34Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, I got one stat right now,
- 25:38Speaker 6: Lil Wayne with as much of a catalog as he has,
- 25:42Speaker 6: and we know Lil Wayne goes Back has about thirty
- 25:45Speaker 6: eight million Spotify listeners. Kendrick is sitting at sixty nine.
- 25:48Speaker 6: And then on top of that, did y'all see Lil
- 25:51Speaker 6: Wayne performing Wrestlmingia.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Bro, I was just about it his performance exactly if
- 25:57Speaker 1: you Lil Wayne was a dope performer back in the day.
- 26:00Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like like that era that
- 26:01Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Carter one, Carter two is doctor dre
- 26:06Speaker 1: got But I'm watch Lil Wayne perform dog if you
- 26:09Speaker 1: watch Lil Wayne performing, I.
- 26:10Speaker 5: Know, but I don't think he would do that at
- 26:12Speaker 5: the super Bowl. I know, I know, I.
- 26:14Speaker 1: Know that big. That's a big what if you know
- 26:16Speaker 1: what I mean, Hey, we're gonna.
- 26:18Speaker 5: Give you because I still seem I still see.
- 26:21Speaker 1: One hundred from on point, you know what I mean? Like,
- 26:24Speaker 1: it's just too much of a gamble, bro, it's too much.
- 26:27Speaker 6: Hey, I got you right now, Joe real quick. Doctor
- 26:30Speaker 6: Dre has about twenty four million, but that's with two
- 26:34Speaker 6: albums on Spotify.
- 26:37Speaker 5: And super Bowl. But he did this super Bowl.
- 26:40Speaker 6: But that's what I'm saying though, think look, dude, like
- 26:42Speaker 6: how many albums does Lil Wayne have on Spotify compared
- 26:47Speaker 6: to Doctor Dre.
- 26:48Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like listening point, but.
- 26:52Speaker 4: We're talking about who listens to who today, So we're
- 26:56Speaker 4: talking about if the listeners today matter. For the super Bowl,
- 27:00Speaker 4: Dre had less listeners, and Dre did the super Bowl
- 27:02Speaker 4: and he did all features.
- 27:04Speaker 3: But that's an even that's an even better point though.
- 27:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you're talking about, but you got
- 27:08Speaker 1: to think about it, bro. It really goes back to
- 27:10Speaker 1: what I was saying earlier. Lil Wayne is not a
- 27:13Speaker 1: nationwide act. Like how we think, Bro, he's more East Groves.
- 27:18Speaker 1: People on the West Coast is not listening to Lil
- 27:20Speaker 1: Wayne like that, Bro, They are not listening to Lil Wayne,
- 27:24Speaker 1: like we're listening to Doctor Dre over here.
- 27:26Speaker 5: But those are other people who watch the Super Bowl.
- 27:28Speaker 3: Wait. Wait, Doctor Dre has three albums.
- 27:31Speaker 6: One they dropped in ninety nine, one they dropped in
- 27:34Speaker 6: ninety two, and one they're dropped in twenty fifteen. And
- 27:37Speaker 6: he still almost has the same amount of monthly listeners
- 27:41Speaker 6: as Lil Wayne, who's dropped millions of albums.
- 27:45Speaker 3: Bro.
- 27:46Speaker 1: And that doesn't even come That doesn't even take into
- 27:48Speaker 1: account the stuff that he's done for other people like
- 27:51Speaker 1: Eminet Snoop Dog, Like, how many monthly listeners are they
- 27:55Speaker 1: getting off of them songs that they have of Doctor Dre?
- 27:58Speaker 4: Yeah, and how many people have Wayne put on? He
- 28:01Speaker 4: put on two of the biggest artists in the world
- 28:03Speaker 4: still still to this day agree and bring out and
- 28:08Speaker 4: do young artists. A whole label full of artists that
- 28:11Speaker 4: have bangers, a bunch of people who are willing to
- 28:14Speaker 4: get on that stage with him perform like bangers.
- 28:17Speaker 5: What's Kendrick gonna do The pop up show with You know.
- 28:20Speaker 1: What I feel like you're doing is the cultural argument,
- 28:23Speaker 1: which is valid.
- 28:24Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm talking about for New Orleans.
- 28:27Speaker 4: That's what you can't make an You can't use an
- 28:31Speaker 4: explanation for Kendrick that that doesn't fall into some part
- 28:34Speaker 4: of Wayne's career.
- 28:36Speaker 6: I know Wayne's coming out though, Nah, yeah he is.
- 28:39Speaker 6: Bro Kendrick is a huge Wayne fan, but.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Jay Z the whole thing is Jesus bro Kendrick just
- 28:46Speaker 1: fried Drake. You think Lil Wayne is going to be
- 28:49Speaker 1: out in the super Bowl.
- 28:51Speaker 3: That's a very good point.
- 28:52Speaker 4: It all started because Birdman didn't pay Neptunes for that.
- 28:56Speaker 4: What happened to that boy? You never paid him literally
- 28:59Speaker 4: literally And it started with that. And that's why when
- 29:03Speaker 4: Death of Attitude came out, they haven't fucked with each other.
- 29:05Speaker 4: And says mister Carter on the.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Carter three, That's that's where the Pharrell thing even comes
- 29:09Speaker 1: into play with Drake, like that's kind of like the Yeah.
- 29:12Speaker 5: That's it.
- 29:13Speaker 4: I think any other rapper, but Kendrick in New Orleans
- 29:18Speaker 4: would have made sense. Kendrick next year would have made sense.
- 29:22Speaker 4: But Kendrick this year in New Orleans is like three
- 29:26Speaker 4: stabs in the back to hip hop in my opinion,
- 29:30Speaker 4: and that's where I let him rest.
- 29:31Speaker 1: Now as a cultural argument, I can't. I can't disagree
- 29:35Speaker 1: with anything you're saying because it makes a lot of sense.
- 29:37Speaker 1: But just on a bigger scale, Bro, like just Lil
- 29:41Speaker 1: Wayne as a performer, the stuff Lil Wayne beyond his
- 29:44Speaker 1: track record, Like, just like Bro, there's so many things
- 29:48Speaker 1: that come attacked.
- 29:49Speaker 5: Fifty six came out upside down where.
- 29:52Speaker 1: You're talking about fifty cent Bro. That dude been in
- 29:54Speaker 1: shape since nineteen.
- 29:56Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is he can bring anybody out
- 29:59Speaker 4: to do some crazy s it does. It's not a
- 30:01Speaker 4: solo wing. It will not be a solo wing performance. Madgine,
- 30:04Speaker 4: He's been Juvie what's his name, who just got out
- 30:06Speaker 4: of jail? The other hot boy just gotta jazz. Names
- 30:11Speaker 4: come slip in my mind. BG just got out of jail.
- 30:16Speaker 4: Bring BG out, Bring Manny Fresh, bring bird Man, bring
- 30:19Speaker 4: all the hot boys out, and bring Drake and bring
- 30:22Speaker 4: Nikki out. That is a super Bowl halftime show in
- 30:26Speaker 4: New Orleans. Because that is all Wayne.
- 30:28Speaker 1: Everybody is going to be looking at each other like
- 30:31Speaker 1: I've never heard this song before in my life.
- 30:33Speaker 5: All the time. Crazy, that's crazy, that's crazy. There's no
- 30:36Speaker 5: way that you know this is really Nicki Minaj and Drake.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Oh, Nicki Minaj and Drake different thing, but all the
- 30:45Speaker 1: New Orleans artists. Bro, that's regional music.
- 30:47Speaker 4: If Dre went out there and performed the Chronic and
- 30:49Speaker 4: the Chronic two thousand and.
- 30:50Speaker 5: One, what was one?
- 30:53Speaker 1: That is global music? Dog, Like, that's been crazy. Come
- 30:57Speaker 1: like classic classics. Bro. We listen over here. We're on
- 31:01Speaker 1: the whole side of the country.
- 31:03Speaker 5: The people who were at the Super Bowl.
- 31:04Speaker 1: I'm saying, doctor Dre, We listen, who's weird? Everybody? Bro?
- 31:09Speaker 5: I wanted you to name four songs off the Chronic.
- 31:13Speaker 1: Bro, it's not even about the four songs, but four
- 31:18Speaker 1: songs after Crownic we listened to like that, Bro, I
- 31:22Speaker 1: mean only thing people you know seven at the Garter one,
- 31:26Speaker 1: Carter two, Carter three.
- 31:29Speaker 5: That's just the first three.
- 31:32Speaker 1: Bro.
- 31:33Speaker 4: Wait, we're gonna get to disagree, but there's different ways
- 31:35Speaker 4: to look at it, and I think it's unacceptable for
- 31:37Speaker 4: whatever the reason was to choose Kendrick this year over
- 31:42Speaker 4: little Wayne with little Lil Wayne.
- 31:43Speaker 1: Is never going to do a Super Bowl, bro, never
- 31:47Speaker 1: even before this one. Bro, he was never gonna he
- 31:50Speaker 1: was never going to perform at the super Bowl. Bro,
- 31:52Speaker 1: it just wasn't gonna happen.
- 31:55Speaker 3: It's one thing. It's one thing to say like that.
- 31:58Speaker 3: They said that. It's one thing to.
- 32:02Speaker 6: Say like a goat and rap and a goat and
- 32:05Speaker 6: hip hop, but like a super Bowl performer.
- 32:08Speaker 1: That's that's exactly.
- 32:09Speaker 6: That's a different conversation, bro, Exactly, it's a different conversation.
- 32:13Speaker 5: And Ken Drake is that.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro, you just just because you're a Drake fans
- 32:21Speaker 1: do with Drake. I just realized what's going on. It
- 32:27Speaker 1: has do with Drake by Drake. Drake is gonna do
- 32:31Speaker 1: world for no reason.
- 32:34Speaker 4: World Cup this year, which is four billion views. Drake
- 32:37Speaker 4: is gonna surpass this ship next Okay, think about it,
- 32:39Speaker 4: like this World Cup. So Drake is surpassing this with
- 32:42Speaker 4: the World Cup.
- 32:43Speaker 3: So let's be real. So let's be real.
- 32:45Speaker 5: So let's hear about Drake.
- 32:46Speaker 3: Let's be real. So why do you think Drake didn't
- 32:48Speaker 3: get it?
- 32:49Speaker 5: Then? I don't want Drake.
- 32:50Speaker 6: It's not about Drake, it's about literally no, I'm just
- 32:53Speaker 6: I'm just asking a question.
- 32:54Speaker 3: It could have been anybody. It could have been anybody.
- 32:57Speaker 4: I'm not advocating for Drake to have the super Bowl
- 32:59Speaker 4: there's nothing because because it has nothing, I don't care
- 33:03Speaker 4: where Drake performs.
- 33:05Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying is that who cares? But
- 33:07Speaker 3: Wayne performs.
- 33:09Speaker 5: In New Orleans?
- 33:10Speaker 3: I can't no.
- 33:15Speaker 5: And this is what yo, I'm gonna give you prime
- 33:17Speaker 5: example what American things.
- 33:19Speaker 1: It's out like a superhero.
- 33:20Speaker 5: When he said that Family Feud, did y'all see the clip?
- 33:24Speaker 5: And Family Feud? The goat rappers on Family Feud? Did
- 33:28Speaker 5: you see that clip?
- 33:30Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, when they named like yeah yeah,
- 33:34Speaker 8: Snoop Dogg was the number one greatest rapper of all time,
- 33:37Speaker 8: then Tupac, then Eminem, then Doctor Dre, then Ella cool J,
- 33:41Speaker 8: then Biggie, then fifty cent and then jay Z.
- 33:45Speaker 3: All those people on the list except jay Z.
- 33:47Speaker 6: You know, Snoop Dogg, Pop, I'm sorry, Snoop Dogg, uh,
- 33:52Speaker 6: Doctor Dre, fifty we're all a part of Doctor Dre's performance.
- 33:56Speaker 5: They're all West coast.
- 33:58Speaker 3: But no, no, not just that they're West coast.
- 34:01Speaker 6: That literally is the point is that most of those
- 34:04Speaker 6: surveys are by like random obviously.
- 34:07Speaker 5: No, it's not random people, it's the people in the audience.
- 34:09Speaker 3: But but people that's not a part of the hip
- 34:10Speaker 3: hop culture the way.
- 34:11Speaker 5: And guess what those are the people at the super Bowl.
- 34:14Speaker 6: Exactly, And that's why Doctor Dre got it and Wayne
- 34:16Speaker 6: did it.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Yo, the people who are watching rap. He never transcended rap.
- 34:22Speaker 1: It's exactly what Quincy said when he did the rocket
- 34:24Speaker 1: with nobody.
- 34:25Speaker 7: Bro.
- 34:26Speaker 5: You know, the ultimate test is going to be the
- 34:28Speaker 5: views of the halftime show.
- 34:30Speaker 1: You know that halftime shows about it crazy, y'all gotta
- 34:34Speaker 1: tell me, y'are gonna have to tell me about it?
- 34:37Speaker 7: Watch it.
- 34:38Speaker 5: It's okay, man watching the Man cast.
- 34:41Speaker 3: You know what they're about to call Drake a pedophile worldwide?
- 34:44Speaker 3: It's okay.
- 34:45Speaker 5: I don't think that.
- 34:45Speaker 3: I don't think.
- 34:48Speaker 1: That song.
- 34:49Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think they're gonna allow him
- 34:51Speaker 5: to perform that. No, he's gonna have a great set
- 34:53Speaker 5: to watch it.
- 34:55Speaker 1: I feel like I.
- 34:55Speaker 4: Put Good Kid, Mad City up on it. I read,
- 34:58Speaker 4: I rediated my whole schef. I still got Drake. I
- 35:02Speaker 4: only got my three favorite Drakes. I got hem Drake's,
- 35:05Speaker 4: I got twenty fourteen, I got Good Kid, Mess City.
- 35:09Speaker 4: You know I got all the Kanye's. I am gonna
- 35:12Speaker 4: if it's if it's like the pop up show. Yeah,
- 35:15Speaker 4: it has nothing to do with Drake. That's everything to
- 35:17Speaker 4: do with Wayne.
- 35:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just really I feel like like
- 35:22Speaker 1: Wayne just never reached that next level, Like he was
- 35:25Speaker 1: never able to cross over in a way that the
- 35:27Speaker 1: other artists we talked about have, you know what I mean,
- 35:30Speaker 1: like the type of global hits people had, like and
- 35:34Speaker 1: just like the household name of it, Like even like
- 35:37Speaker 1: the Snoop thing is because of doctor Dre you know
- 35:39Speaker 1: what I mean, Like doctor Dre is recognizable. Like that's like, bro,
- 35:43Speaker 1: Grandma is gonna know who doctor Dre is, you know
- 35:45Speaker 1: what I mean.
- 35:48Speaker 6: But from what I saw though, they said that the
- 35:52Speaker 6: city actually has a lot to do with making a
- 35:54Speaker 6: decision as well, not just he's a co producer.
- 35:59Speaker 4: He has this decision in who performs every year Z
- 36:04Speaker 4: and that's powerful. Yeah, he's the co producer of the
- 36:07Speaker 4: halftime show.
- 36:09Speaker 1: But honestly, though, like I feel like you made a
- 36:13Speaker 1: lot of valid arguments, but I think at the end
- 36:15Speaker 1: of the day, it's really just like the business of it,
- 36:19Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like low Wayne is not
- 36:21Speaker 1: he don't got that aura to like for them to say, like, bro,
- 36:25Speaker 1: the super Bowl halftime show is a big deal, Like
- 36:27Speaker 1: they're not gonna just give him that as like you
- 36:30Speaker 1: deserve it type thing, you know what I mean. Yeah,
- 36:32Speaker 1: you have to really really have the numbers and make
- 36:35Speaker 1: the sense to do that. Like they gotta feel like
- 36:37Speaker 1: you're gonna bring you know, money to them by performing,
- 36:41Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And they definitely didn't see
- 36:43Speaker 1: that in Low Wayne. Like, no matter how dope his
- 36:46Speaker 1: music and how influential he is, he's not one of
- 36:49Speaker 1: those artists right now, you know what I mean. And
- 36:51Speaker 1: he might not. He might not have ever been that big,
- 36:54Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like maybe at that Lollipop time,
- 36:57Speaker 1: he could have done like a super Bowl performing because
- 37:00Speaker 1: he had like a really good run up to that
- 37:03Speaker 1: and he was still like in shape to like perform good,
- 37:05Speaker 1: like he was still doing good performances around that time,
- 37:08Speaker 1: but definitely not now.
- 37:11Speaker 3: Yeah mm hmmm, what.
- 37:18Speaker 1: But now.
- 37:23Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna list these.
- 37:25Speaker 4: He won the World Music Awards best Selling Hip Hop
- 37:27Speaker 4: Artists in two thousand and eight.
- 37:29Speaker 5: I don't know I could go here. I got a
- 37:31Speaker 5: bunch of international awards that he's won, but I go
- 37:34Speaker 5: do that.
- 37:35Speaker 1: But what was it best selling what artists? Yeah, best
- 37:38Speaker 1: selling what artists? He got a artist. It didn't just
- 37:43Speaker 1: say artists best selling artist's it said hip hop.
- 37:47Speaker 6: So let's go to Kendrick just won a global like
- 37:51Speaker 6: what we buy to see right now?
- 37:55Speaker 1: And wasn't the Kendrick the first one this year to
- 37:57Speaker 1: get a hip hop number one?
- 37:58Speaker 3: With like that?
- 38:00Speaker 1: Mm HMMI pop haddn't rap hadn't got one number one
- 38:02Speaker 1: this whole year on the top forty, like that was
- 38:05Speaker 1: the first one. I believe.
- 38:08Speaker 4: They didn't have a list, didn't even he doesn't have
- 38:10Speaker 4: an the words to have a whole table full of
- 38:11Speaker 4: listen them and he's uh wicked.
- 38:14Speaker 3: Oh okay, Kendrick, Yeah, but he got too many, Bro.
- 38:19Speaker 4: No, there's there's a whole list, by tables, by category,
- 38:24Speaker 4: by award, by award show for Wayne and and he
- 38:27Speaker 4: just has and Kendrick just has three paragraphs.
- 38:30Speaker 5: But no, I'm just telling you.
- 38:32Speaker 3: What A man has a pull? Pull? How do you say?
- 38:36Speaker 1: Bro?
- 38:38Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that's a pull of surprise. Joe Biden,
- 38:42Speaker 5: how was not working out for him? Pal? Yo?
- 38:49Speaker 1: They dog?
- 38:50Speaker 3: No, I know, man, I'm gonna have to tap in.
- 38:51Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta I gotta see what they talk about.
- 38:54Speaker 3: I gotta get my popcorn. I know I'm about to
- 38:55Speaker 3: be laughing.
- 38:57Speaker 1: You think they listen, they lose yourself, like when they
- 39:00Speaker 1: getting ready before.
- 39:01Speaker 3: No, I heard, uh, Donald Trump? You listening to Mini men.
- 39:05Speaker 5: Man debate tonight?
- 39:08Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 39:10Speaker 5: Yeah, I ain't watching that. I'm going to watch Baddy's Caribbean.
- 39:14Speaker 1: You was Baddy's Caribbean at Quincy's wedding.
- 39:17Speaker 5: Dog that was in the zone.
- 39:21Speaker 1: He was. He was in the zone. Out of the zone.
- 39:23Speaker 1: You went through the zone.
- 39:26Speaker 5: The zone that was signing for the zone boxing.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Yo, you was just zoned.
- 39:33Speaker 5: That's great.
- 39:35Speaker 1: The best part about Joe that weekend was gradually, as
- 39:39Speaker 1: the day progressed, his language changed. He was speaking perfect
- 39:43Speaker 1: English at the beginning of the day and by the
- 39:46Speaker 1: time they hit like seven eight ish pm, he started speaking.
- 39:52Speaker 5: That's when you get that Butter, get that state.
- 39:55Speaker 1: Buttery, you were speaking Butter k thees, That's what That's
- 39:58Speaker 1: what it was, their knees.
- 40:00Speaker 5: That's what I tell you. That's where that state. But
- 40:02Speaker 5: it came from right there.
- 40:04Speaker 1: Bro. We was We was dancing that whole night. Hey, yo,
- 40:09Speaker 1: the wedding night, bro, that was like a whole like
- 40:12Speaker 1: marathon a dancing. We really looked like Vice City characters
- 40:15Speaker 1: that day.
- 40:16Speaker 3: Facts.
- 40:17Speaker 6: I'm still man, No, I can't find a video of
- 40:19Speaker 6: us turning up to uh.
- 40:21Speaker 3: Get what was it, uh get little Get load.
- 40:25Speaker 1: Bro. Once I heard that come on, I was like,
- 40:27Speaker 1: oh no, Bro, this is high school bro, real quick.
- 40:31Speaker 1: One time for the one time it was a ride
- 40:34Speaker 1: Man Quincy and married Man Johnson.
- 40:37Speaker 6: It's cool, man. I'm just glad that we got through
- 40:40Speaker 6: all the planning. We had a great time. I felt
- 40:42Speaker 6: like weekend went by without a hitch, and you know
- 40:47Speaker 6: that just took a.
- 40:49Speaker 3: Load off balls.
- 40:50Speaker 7: Yo.
- 40:52Speaker 1: Bro. We spent most of every day at the pool sidebar,
- 40:58Speaker 1: just hanging out there, dream vibing, taking shots with James.
- 41:02Speaker 1: Shout out to James. He was on the podcast before
- 41:05Speaker 1: Flight Vinces. Make sure y'all check him out.
- 41:07Speaker 5: But man was drinking of special, Oh yeah, the undressed.
- 41:12Speaker 1: Special, Bro. And we was just at the bar all day.
- 41:17Speaker 1: Whenever we got we would go to a little grill
- 41:19Speaker 1: by the beach, get a burger, a hot dog, nachos
- 41:23Speaker 1: or something. Recharge you go back to the pool. Bro.
- 41:26Speaker 1: That was like the perfect just five weekend, Like it
- 41:30Speaker 1: was super chilling, Bro.
- 41:33Speaker 4: It was a beautiful weekend, man. Uh, great people there,
- 41:37Speaker 4: but a great group to have out there. There's definitely
- 41:41Speaker 4: an amazing time. Yeah again every day shout out to
- 41:45Speaker 4: Robin Man. That was a super dope wedding. It looked
- 41:48Speaker 4: like she had a good time. She was dancing the
- 41:50Speaker 4: night away as well.
- 41:52Speaker 1: Say, we went to we had the reception and then
- 41:55Speaker 1: there was like a club on the resort and it
- 41:58Speaker 1: was like midnight and I went back to the room
- 42:00Speaker 1: and I text Quincy in the group chat for the wedding,
- 42:03Speaker 1: like no, no. Quincy was like, Yo, we at the club.
- 42:06Speaker 1: And then when I got back to the room, I
- 42:08Speaker 1: was like, y'all still there. Yes. I was like, hey,
- 42:16Speaker 1: we're out to the club and She's like let's go.
- 42:19Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 42:19Speaker 1: I was. We were literally dancing, so we couldn't no more. Bro.
- 42:22Speaker 1: At one point sat down like, oh my god, I
- 42:24Speaker 1: can't take it no more. Man.
- 42:27Speaker 6: That was a blast I had, Like I feel like
- 42:30Speaker 6: it like the whole weekend, Bro.
- 42:32Speaker 3: I was just like having a good time.
- 42:33Speaker 6: There was no breaks, you know what I mean, just
- 42:36Speaker 6: having a good time the entire time.
- 42:38Speaker 5: Bro.
- 42:39Speaker 1: Yeah, It's likest case scenario when when you're planning something
- 42:41Speaker 1: like that. It like it reminds me of like when
- 42:44Speaker 1: me and Vou won the cruise Oh yeah, honeymoon. How
- 42:48Speaker 1: it was just like a thing that was like so memorable.
- 42:50Speaker 1: It's like yours. It's like just how like perfect everything was,
- 42:54Speaker 1: and like just how much of a vibe it was,
- 42:56Speaker 1: is like the memorableness of it, you know what I mean,
- 42:58Speaker 1: Like there's nobody that could say like that they had
- 43:01Speaker 1: a wag time or it was whack out there anything
- 43:03Speaker 1: like that. Like it was a super vibe the whole time, Bro.
- 43:06Speaker 4: And that's unfortunately true, is that time flies when you're
- 43:09Speaker 4: having fun, because I remember that first morning we was
- 43:12Speaker 4: in that pool and it felt like forty minutes and like, yo,
- 43:16Speaker 4: we've been in here for four hours. Yo, it felt
- 43:19Speaker 4: like forty minutes. Like time really flies when you're having
- 43:23Speaker 4: a good time, man.
- 43:24Speaker 1: Bro and Dog Like, I don't think I've talked about
- 43:26Speaker 1: on the podcast, Bro, but I was deathly afraid of flying,
- 43:31Speaker 1: so like, ever since his wedding was announced, I've been
- 43:33Speaker 1: having a nightmares, dog Like it was crazy. So like
- 43:36Speaker 1: the fact that the flights were perfect both ways, the
- 43:39Speaker 1: fact that the trip was so dope, the wedding was dope.
- 43:44Speaker 1: The resort was dope.
- 43:45Speaker 5: Know.
- 43:45Speaker 1: When I came back, I felt like a weight lifted
- 43:48Speaker 1: off my shoulders from the relaxing, from just not having
- 43:52Speaker 1: to worry about taking a flight. No more, like I
- 43:54Speaker 1: came back like with the triple charge. Bro, it was
- 43:56Speaker 1: like exactly what was needed.
- 43:59Speaker 7: Bro.
- 43:59Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate y'all. Boys. Man, I can't wait to get
- 44:04Speaker 3: the video.
- 44:05Speaker 7: Dog.
- 44:05Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Man, still getting that, bro. Yeah, that's went
- 44:09Speaker 1: the drone up thrown.
- 44:11Speaker 3: Oh my god. They was going dummy.
- 44:13Speaker 1: Yeah, bro. You know, I don't know if everybody think
- 44:16Speaker 1: I'm like a heartless creature, but they were all so
- 44:19Speaker 1: surprised that I was crying at the wedding. Dog.
- 44:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 44:23Speaker 6: It was funny too because I heard it, but I
- 44:25Speaker 6: didn't know who that was, and I was too busy.
- 44:28Speaker 3: I had that one single thug t here and.
- 44:31Speaker 6: I was like, bro, I just get down to this,
- 44:33Speaker 6: get down to the altar.
- 44:34Speaker 3: Bro, I can't take it.
- 44:35Speaker 1: No, No, I was. I was balling. Boy, I was
- 44:37Speaker 1: crying out there, set up. I was looking at you.
- 44:42Speaker 1: Then I'm looking at Robin or her parents. You know
- 44:44Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm looking at how y'all looking at
- 44:46Speaker 1: each other. I look at Vow. I'm like, damn, bro,
- 44:49Speaker 1: this is beautiful. You know I was. I was up there,
- 44:52Speaker 1: I was up there crying. Dog. I knew I was
- 44:54Speaker 1: gonna cry it and Valve knew I was gonna cry.
- 44:56Speaker 1: So that's the funny part, Like he already knows I'm
- 44:59Speaker 1: a big softy, So like it wasn't a surprise to her.
- 45:02Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you kill that but one of the
- 45:05Speaker 6: best man speeches. Oh yeah, facts he went dun me bro.
- 45:10Speaker 6: Grandpa went up to him like yo, man, you know
- 45:12Speaker 6: he gave him the props.
- 45:14Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that was that was super dope, just like
- 45:17Speaker 1: getting that not recognition, but the acknowledgment, you know what
- 45:21Speaker 1: I mean, Like because for me, like I wanted to
- 45:24Speaker 1: make sure it was heartfelt and like I you know,
- 45:28Speaker 1: especially like as a lyricist and as an artist, like
- 45:31Speaker 1: you're kind of like moving things around, like you're trying
- 45:35Speaker 1: to make sure that it is what you wanted to do.
- 45:38Speaker 1: And that's like portray your like admiration for your friend,
- 45:44Speaker 1: like reflection of what's happened, what's gonna happen, like you know,
- 45:49Speaker 1: highlight all the good and everything. So like just like
- 45:53Speaker 1: being able to pull that off for me was like
- 45:56Speaker 1: super like bro Like, it even gave me confidence, Like
- 45:59Speaker 1: after that, I'm dang bro Like. It just made me
- 46:01Speaker 1: feel like, damn, I could really do that, you know
- 46:03Speaker 1: what I mean, just like going forward with other things too,
- 46:06Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
- 46:07Speaker 6: And he had it written down and then he just
- 46:09Speaker 6: just you know, didn't even go with it.
- 46:11Speaker 1: Yeah. I got about halfway through what I had written
- 46:14Speaker 1: and then like the like I just felt myself tapping
- 46:17Speaker 1: into something that I was like, oh no, this is
- 46:19Speaker 1: better than what I was going to say to end it,
- 46:21Speaker 1: you know what I mean to do it. So it
- 46:24Speaker 1: was like it was perfect because like I said what
- 46:27Speaker 1: I really wanted to say, which was up front, and
- 46:30Speaker 1: what I wrote down and then what I didn't say.
- 46:32Speaker 1: There was only like one little piece that I didn't
- 46:34Speaker 1: get off. But it wasn't like nothing crazy, you know
- 46:36Speaker 1: what I mean. But it was just dope. It was
- 46:40Speaker 1: dope being able to just representing in a good way
- 46:45Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean, Like it was.
- 46:49Speaker 5: You did your big one.
- 46:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 46:53Speaker 5: I like.
- 46:55Speaker 1: I like the idea that you get a responsibility like
- 46:59Speaker 1: that and you execute it in a way that makes
- 47:02Speaker 1: the person that gave it to you, like proud that
- 47:05Speaker 1: they did it, you know what I mean, like just
- 47:07Speaker 1: by you know what I mean. And it made me
- 47:08Speaker 1: feel like that that happened. So I was like, damn,
- 47:11Speaker 1: that's dope, you know what I mean. Yeah, it was
- 47:15Speaker 1: definitely a vibe. Man. I never I never been to
- 47:18Speaker 1: a wedding like as like part of the wedding party
- 47:20Speaker 1: like that. I didn't do that for my brother when
- 47:23Speaker 1: he got married. But I also like gifted him the
- 47:29Speaker 1: wedding video, and I had the people I was working
- 47:31Speaker 1: with at the time, like we had a wedding photography
- 47:34Speaker 1: and videography company, like my partners worked it, and I
- 47:38Speaker 1: was like directing as I was like part of the wedding,
- 47:41Speaker 1: so like it wasn't really like that experience. And when
- 47:46Speaker 1: I did my brother's speech, like I came off shaky
- 47:49Speaker 1: and I felt it and I was disappointed in myself,
- 47:52Speaker 1: Like I was like, damn, bro, this is my brother's
- 47:54Speaker 1: speech and I didn't like put the emotion into it
- 47:57Speaker 1: like the right way because I was just like shaky
- 47:59Speaker 1: about it, you know what I mean. So like when
- 48:01Speaker 1: Quincy asked me, I was like, nah, bro, I can't
- 48:03Speaker 1: let that happen again. You know what I mean, it's
- 48:05Speaker 1: etched in my mind, Like I feel like what I
- 48:08Speaker 1: said at my brothers was good, but like it was
- 48:11Speaker 1: like I just the way I got it off, it
- 48:13Speaker 1: was like whatever, you know, yeah, I feel you so,
- 48:17Speaker 1: Like I definitely wanted to make sure I didn't do
- 48:19Speaker 1: that with Quincy's wedding.
- 48:21Speaker 6: Yeah, well, big shout out to my now wife for
- 48:27Speaker 6: taking the lead on you know, basically coordinating all of it.
- 48:29Speaker 3: Man, it was amazing. Bro. She did her, She did
- 48:32Speaker 3: her big one, as Joe would say, but yeah.
- 48:35Speaker 6: No, hats off to her and had a great time definitely, uh.
- 48:39Speaker 3: Uh you know a week to be remembered for sure.
- 48:41Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that was epic. Man, that was super epic.
- 48:47Speaker 1: Like Joe said, it's crazy how much you know, like
- 48:50Speaker 1: how even like on the other side that like like
- 48:53Speaker 1: that first day felt so long, bro, That Friday when
- 48:56Speaker 1: we got there, it just felt like it was never
- 48:59Speaker 1: gonna end. And then all of a sudden, like we
- 49:02Speaker 1: already just passed a weekend like after you know what
- 49:05Speaker 1: I mean, Like, it's just crazy how how time moves, bro,
- 49:11Speaker 1: that's for sure. Well yeah, man, I kind of wanted
- 49:15Speaker 1: to get into the uh Tyreek Hill thing but I
- 49:18Speaker 1: think we could just save that for next week because
- 49:20Speaker 1: it will still be Relevant's what's going to happen. Yeah,
- 49:25Speaker 1: there's just more developments. The body camp footage came out,
- 49:28Speaker 1: so that was pretty uh eye opening. So once a
- 49:32Speaker 1: little more information comes out, we'll tap into it next week.
- 49:36Speaker 1: You hear me.
- 49:37Speaker 5: But you already know they stay by the state, the mirror.
- 50:02Speaker 7: After at not not not not at not be not
- 52:21Speaker 7: after auto not be a nothing after