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Hutton & Withrow: Are College QBs Worth $6 Million? Plus the Coaches Who MUST Win in 2026 | Hour 2 · Hutton & Withrow Show

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: How does JT drink his coffee? We're going to tell
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• 1:17
  Speaker 2: JT's a psychopath.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we.
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: Learned during the break. During the break, we find out
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  Speaker 1: that JT drinks his coffee out of a very specific cup.
• 1:28
  Speaker 3: JT, can you show us the cup you drink your
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  Speaker 3: coffee out of?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's a plastic cup, and every morning it's
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  Speaker 4: this and two. It's Crockett coffee, and it's two pieces
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  Speaker 4: of ice to cool it down because I don't want
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  Speaker 4: my coffee just scalding.
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  Speaker 2: Is that like a form of plastic that can wither?
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  Speaker 2: So you're pouring it in hot and then putting ice
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  Speaker 2: in it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's probably some stuff in it that probably
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  Speaker 4: will kill me early, but, yeah, that's how I like it.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is the strangest thing.
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  Speaker 2: We got it out of the way now, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to make it my primary complaint, but I've
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  Speaker 2: never heard of anyone that needs to drink coffee from
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  Speaker 2: just a plastic cup. like you would drink Kool-Aid out
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  Speaker 2: of when you're nine years old.
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  Speaker 4: I don't go to Cracker Barrel and say, can you
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  Speaker 4: please bring me a cup to put, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: plastic cup to pour my coffee into. But if I'm
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  Speaker 4: at the house, I prefer it. And the only way
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  Speaker 4: you'll ever see me drink it is, so it's not
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  Speaker 4: chocolate milk. It's coffee in a plastic cup.
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  Speaker 1: But are you just against mugs? You don't like the
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  Speaker 1: way you have to hold it or something?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's, yeah, I don't know where I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: go here.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't like the feel of that up against
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  Speaker 4: my mouth.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just weird. That's what she said. Do you
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  Speaker 3: get all limp-wristed with a coffee mug? I've got to
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  Speaker 3: get back to work, guys.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what was happening yesterday when I was
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  Speaker 2: trying to show the mug.
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  Speaker 3: I promise I work out regularly. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: I felt like I was lifting a boulder, pushing a
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  Speaker 2: boulder up a hill to lift up a coffee mug yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: My hand and wrist went totally limp as I did it.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably what JT wants to avoid on this show.
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  Speaker 3: So he's like, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to hold a cup of Kool-Aid, of Ovaltine,
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  Speaker 2: is what it looked like in his cup. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to hold this like a man instead of holding up
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  Speaker 2: a coffee mug. I've never heard of anybody who doesn't
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  Speaker 2: drink coffee or prefers not to drink coffee out of
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  Speaker 2: a mug or out of like a heavy-duty portable to-go
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  Speaker 2: cup like you would get at a nice coffee place,
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  Speaker 2: other than JT.
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  Speaker 1: Chad, look at the money being spit on quarterbacks. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: knows that's huge money in college football right now. But
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  Speaker 1: as far as return on investment, I'm curious what you
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  Speaker 1: would say. I've got my answer, too. You're going to
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  Speaker 1: see this right now. The money and return on investment
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  Speaker 1: on who you think is not going to actually come
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  Speaker 1: through with earning their money.
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  Speaker 3: I've got mine right off the bat.
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  Speaker 2: You've got yours on who's not going to come through
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  Speaker 2: for the money.
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  Speaker 1: Who's not going to meet the, the, the expectation based
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  Speaker 1: on pay for me.
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  Speaker 3: I think so.
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  Speaker 2: It also goes down, you know, we talked about this
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  Speaker 2: with DGG, David Gabriel, Georgia's like, what is the smart investment? Right.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. So there's one that jumps out to me on
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  Speaker 3: this list.
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  Speaker 2: I know as we're looking right now, there's 13 quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: and Mark J Burns at sport and state did a
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  Speaker 2: good job writing.
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  Speaker 3: This on this. Um, The one that jumps out to
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  Speaker 3: me is Josh Hoover.
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  Speaker 2: Josh Hoover in 2024 at TCU set a single-season passing record.
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  Speaker 2: 2025 was not as good for him. But also, it's
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  Speaker 2: the way I feel about Josh Heupel in run games.
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  Speaker 2: Indiana's going to be good at quarterback. You don't have
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  Speaker 2: to spend $ 4. 5 million. They did, and that's great. And
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  Speaker 2: they're bringing in a guy who started a lot of games.
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  Speaker 2: to their program, but you see where I'm going with this.
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  Speaker 2: Kurt Cignetti's offense and what he's built with his offensive
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  Speaker 2: line and what he's built with the skill positions, I
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: don't know that you need to invest $ 4. 5 million for
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  Speaker 2: one year into Josh Hoover. Now, they were going to
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  Speaker 2: pay that with someone else too, but I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if that's necessary. I feel the same way about DGG.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a smart investment, but I would also
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  Speaker 2: say Josh Heupel gets three-star running backs to win SEC
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  Speaker 2: Offensive Player of the Year or rush for 1,000 yards.
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  Speaker 3: Deshaun Bishop's a former walk-on.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't have a scholarship when he got to Tennessee,
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  Speaker 2: and he's now a clear leader of the team and
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  Speaker 2: had a great season last year and should have a
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  Speaker 2: good season this year too. So do you want to
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  Speaker 2: spend over $ 2 million for a running back? I feel
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  Speaker 2: the same way about some of these guys with their
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  Speaker 2: head coaches. For me, it's Darian Mensah. Six million plus.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's making more than Trinidad Chambliss.
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  Speaker 3: Really? He's making more than Dante Moore, who's the front-runner
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  Speaker 3: with the Heisman? Yeah, everybody, apparently. By the way, best
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  Speaker 3: bang for the buck was Oklahoma State. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And I love seeing Oklahoma State appear on this list
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  Speaker 2: for this reason. I haven't thought about Oklahoma State in
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  Speaker 2: about five years.
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  Speaker 3: I agree, man.
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  Speaker 2: Since Gundy started going south. And that was a program
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  Speaker 2: that was routinely in the top 25 for.
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  Speaker 3: Years under Gundy, right? They were one of those. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I would look at Oklahoma State like I did Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 2: Like never great, but always good, always steady. You kind
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  Speaker 2: of knew what you were going to get with them, right?
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  Speaker 2: Jim Knowles did a great job when he was defensive
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  Speaker 2: coordinator under Gundy at Oklahoma State. I like seeing that
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  Speaker 2: investment because we know T-Bone Pickens is no longer alive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's no longer alive. No, he's not. He passed away. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: thank you. I've been known to kill people on air
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  Speaker 3: before they're dead.
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  Speaker 2: Spodman, yeah, he's dead. But they've got money at Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: State is my point. And I like that they're spending
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  Speaker 2: it there on the quarterback, and they're helping out Eric
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  Speaker 2: Morris in year one. So that was a welcome addition
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  Speaker 2: to this list of high spenders for me, for Oklahoma State,
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  Speaker 2: because I want to see more teams become relevant and
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  Speaker 2: spend money and get good again.
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  Speaker 1: They brought his entire staff with him, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Like the quarterback. Okay. That's huge.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen that work plenty across the country.
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  Speaker 1: If you bring the staff with the quarterback, normally it
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  Speaker 1: jumpstarts everything. And the quarterback's comfortable in control. I realize
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  Speaker 1: everybody else has got to learn the offense, but distribution
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  Speaker 1: is the name of the game here. Call the play
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  Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. Be able to stay out
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  Speaker 1: of the wrong play is maybe just as important as
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  Speaker 1: making a big play.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's the other thing, too, Hutton.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned Mensah, which I think is kind of crazy, too.
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  Speaker 2: The number is over $ 6 million. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Seems like.
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  Speaker 2: Were you really going to get that somewhere else, or
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  Speaker 2: did you just milk Miami for all you could get?
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  Speaker 1: What did he make previously?
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  Speaker 3: Was it four? He made, I think, three and a
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  Speaker 3: half or four at Duke. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And they paid a lot. I remember that was a
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  Speaker 2: big deal. It's like, Duke's paying this much money?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Or Duke's paying $ 4 million for a quarterback and not
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  Speaker 2: a point guard?
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: With basketball, that was shocking to everyone for Manny Diaz
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  Speaker 2: and Duke, who got to the.
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  Speaker 3: ACC championship game.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a year ago. And so they had a
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  Speaker 2: good season with Mensa. I just, I look at some
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: of these dollar figures. Here's the other alarming thing to
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  Speaker 2: me about this. Names that you do not see on
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  Speaker 2: this list.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood, Jared Curtis, Faison Brandon, young guys who probably
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  Speaker 2: signed a multi-year NIL deal with their current schools when
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  Speaker 2: they did it, which is a good bet, right? They're
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  Speaker 2: probably making two and a half, three million, you know,
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  Speaker 2: or something like that for multiple years. But I see
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  Speaker 2: these numbers, Hutton, and I'm thinking, boy, those schools are
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  Speaker 2: going to have to up the ante at some point along.
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  Speaker 3: The way, maybe after year one, maybe after year two.
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  Speaker 2: But I see where these numbers are headed right now,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, that's going to be a discount if
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  Speaker 2: Jared Curtis is what they think he is, right? Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: is getting Faison Brandon at a discount if he's really
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  Speaker 2: good in year one. Based on what they paid him
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  Speaker 2: out of high school, you're going to have to renegotiate
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  Speaker 2: and pay those guys more at some point, likely.
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  Speaker 3: Look at the numbers, Chad. This is what Nico was
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  Speaker 3: asking for. You know? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He was asking for four, right? Is that what he
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  Speaker 1: went up to? Or was he going higher than that?
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  Speaker 3: I think he went five. I think he went higher
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  Speaker 3: than that.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Again, it's when are they going to do that? It
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  Speaker 3: wasn't the time. No.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they just got smacked by Ohio State in
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  Speaker 2: the playoff game, too, where that defense did what they
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  Speaker 2: wanted to them.
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  Speaker 3: It was bad timing. And it was also kind of
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: a hostage situation.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I'm going to go through spring and then get
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  Speaker 2: close to the orange and white game and then decide
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to leave if I don't get this money.
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  Speaker 2: So Tennessee just felt like, we're not going to be
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: held hostage by you or anyone, and we've got to
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: take a stand against this, and we're going to go
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  Speaker 2: a different direction and spend that money elsewhere. And they
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: spent the money wisely on Joey Aguilar, who happened to
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  Speaker 2: fall in their lap because UCLA spent big money on Nico.
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  Speaker 2: And look, Nico didn't pay off in year one. I
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: think he was making less than he was at Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: for UCLA.
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, he was.
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  Speaker 2: It did not pay off for them in year one, right?
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  Speaker 2: So what's that going to look like in year two
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  Speaker 2: for Nico?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just see these ballooning numbers of $ 5 million for
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: Trinidad Chambliss, $ 5 million for Dante Moore. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: those guys are not worth it because they're getting paid it,
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: so they're worth it. to come back, but also, boy,
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  Speaker 2: that's the cost of doing business if you hit on
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: a guy that's really good. Dante Moore was a big-time prospect.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: Trinidad Chambliss was not when he transferred in, but he
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: has proven himself. And now he's hit that payday. But,
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a cost to it. Like, having Keywon
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  Speaker 2: Lacey and Trinidad Chambliss puts Ole Miss in the preseason
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  Speaker 2: top ten, where I think they belong. But I guarantee
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: you they're taking a hit somewhere else on the roster. Well–
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: Because they can't pay someone else as much as they wanted.
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  Speaker 2: Probably a lot of those guys who left for LSU.
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  Speaker 3: Think about that.
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  Speaker 1: For Trinidad Chandler to get the news that he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be able to play another year, and it ends up,
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  Speaker 1: it earns him $ 5 million.
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: Or whatever, $ 4. 5 million, whatever it was. Crazy. Insane. What's
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: all those decisions?
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  Speaker 2: And a guy who's not a big pro prospect.
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  Speaker 3: No, no. So, I mean, this is it. You need
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  Speaker 3: to figure out a way now.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to make all this money, have another successful year.
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  Speaker 2: And if your future is not in playing football, figure
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  Speaker 2: out what you're doing next. But you've got such a
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: big nest egg to start with the money you've already
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  Speaker 2: made in college.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great jump start in your.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: Life for these guys, too.
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  Speaker 1: He's going from making those millions to, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where he would be drafted, but it's not going to
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: be a first-round, like, I don't think so, first-round guaranteed
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: check where you're getting the $ 40 million. It's slotted in
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: the second, third round where you make more through the
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: college route.
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  Speaker 3: But the return on investment, man, I don't know.
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: How do these guys that are paying these, that are
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: donating this money— Is it just– it's not like they–
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: I don't see a bunch of names out there.
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: I see Spire.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: I always go to Tennessee as an example because we
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: know those guys. But I don't see, like, individual names
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: getting the pat on the back for buying this player.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: If it was about that, I feel like it would
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: be about the notoriety of it all, right?
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: I don't see that very much.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand why you do it if you're not
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: doing it for the– you know, the accolade or the ownership,
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: so to speak.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's a great point.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I know donating, you know, donating as a
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: fan is one thing. I'm talking about the millionaires that
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: are doing this.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: Well, let's go back to the Faison Brandon example because
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: I'm probably as well-versed at that as anyone out there.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: And I follow Faison Brandon on Instagram. Faison Brandon did
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: a promo shoot with Sling TV. Sling TV, I think,
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: someone can correct me if I'm wrong, is owned by Dish.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: which is a Tennessee-based company, I think founded by a
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: University of Tennessee graduate.
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: So that's a big donor for Tennessee. So that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: But I noticed the bottom of the screen the whole time,
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: for advertising inquiries, it's like Faison at Spiresports.com. He actually
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: has a Spiresports email address for all advertising inquiries to
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  Speaker 2: Faison Brandon. So He is on a multi-year deal with
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: Spire Sports. Trey Wynn in the YouTube chat says, are
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: these guys all on one-year deals? The answer to that
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: is if you're the veteran guy transferring from one place
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: to finish your career out, yes. Or like Trinidad Chambliss,
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  Speaker 2: the end of his career, yes, that's a one-year deal
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: because he's got no years after this. Josh Hoover, one-year deal,
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: for sure. I bring up Jared Curtis at Vandy. Underwood
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  Speaker 2: at Michigan who's entering year two, Faison Brand at Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: Those are multi-year deals. But now what do we know
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: about multi-year deals in college football? They don't mean anything.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like Joey Tribbiani and friends. I think I'm doing
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  Speaker 2: the air quotes wrong when I say they don't mean anything.
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  Speaker 2: They really don't mean anything because if you want to
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: break that two-year deal and go re-up like Nico and go–
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: negotiate with somebody else to get more money and then
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: go back to your school. There's nothing stopping you from
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: doing that. Other than we have seen some instances where
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: collectives will sue the player. or the school and what
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: they do is they settle on okay then we'll pay
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: this money back yeah you know he didn't fulfill this
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: so like here's a handshake agreement it never gets the
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: courts because they just buy them out you're basically buying
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: someone out of a contract.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: And that's normally the homesick guys or whatever that doesn't
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: help you if you lose your quarterback though no like
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: great i got an extra.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: 500k but i lost the guy i invested all this
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: time and energy to that knows the team and knows
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: the offense and that we were hoping was going to
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: be a long-term situation right That's what was lost with
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Tennessee and Nico. That's the fear to me if you
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: are a Vandy fan, hell, an Alabama fan with Keelan Russell.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: A Tennessee fan is, boy, this looks great right now,
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  Speaker 2: and you're going to live through the learning curve and
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: all that with a young quarterback. But if they hit
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: big and it starts to show this guy's going to
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: be really good, you know in the back of your
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: mind you're fearful that what does this mean? Because now
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: they're going to demand more money and can my team
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: keep them?
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: That's the scary part of all this.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: But no matter who the quarterback is, they're going to
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: demand the money now at that level. I would say,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: what does it mean if you go with the younger quarterback?
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: It gives you a chance to build consistency, to sustain
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: an actual player, right? To build a program around the position. Otherwise,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: it's a year-to-year deal every single year.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: You know, like... it's tough to pull off what Georgia's
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: pulling off, you know?
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's what, like, you're looking, this is the
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: unfortunate part about it. I just don't think this exists
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: as much anymore in the college game. You know, like,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Al Wilson, when he was at Tennessee, wasn't looking around
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: the transfer portal.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Right. You know, he's from Jackson. He's like, I'm staying here.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: We're winning. Like, by the time I get to be
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: a senior, he won a national title.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: You know, when he's there. But you feel like you're
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: partners in it.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: If you're Al Wilson and the leadership on that team,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning was a partner to the University of Tennessee
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: or to the school. They weren't an employee. They were
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: partners on the whole thing. If I'm going to pay
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Hutton, I'm going to use you as an example again.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: You're a stud quarterback coming out of Warren County High School,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: and I'm at Vanderbilt, and I'm like, I am paying
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Hutton to partner with me. I'm paying Jonathan Hutton,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: the Warren County pioneer, to partner with Vanderbilt football for
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: the next three years. Here is a three-year deal worth
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: $ 9 million, let's say, or whatever it is.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Boom. Hands are shaken. You sign the contract.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I am putting you over here as a part of
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: this thing. I'm not thinking about re-upping with you. I'm
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: not thinking about you coming back to renegotiate. I'm not
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: thinking about you bringing your wide receiver buddy somewhere else.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: We're in this together now. And that's how coaches should
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: feel about it. I don't think the players feel that way.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: And certainly those players' agents don't feel that way about
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: it because they're going to be looking for the next
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: thing to renegotiate. That's the unfortunate part of all this.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: No one feels that way anymore at any tier of
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: the business of football. The coaches, the players, there's just no–
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you're not threaded into the program.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: But if you are going to– if it's about being
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: a pro and getting ready for the NFL, that's the
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: way NFL quarterbacks are when they sign a long-term deal.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: They become partners in the organization. Like now I'm at the,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I got a seat at the table. Not that they're
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: making the calls on personnel and all that, but you
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, hey, Patrick Mahomes is a
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: partner with the.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. He ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: You know, when you sign for that money, Josh Allen
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: and the Bills, like we're in this thing together. We
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: need to be pulling the same direction. I want to
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: see more of that in college. That's why I don't
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: mind the three-year plan for a young stud quarterback the
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: way it was in the old days. You sign a
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: blue chip prospect, You think you're going to get two, three,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: four years with them as the starter. That's great in theory.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: But nowadays, they're all going to have their own agents
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: going to say, no, no, no, no, no. Look at
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: your stats this past year compared to these other freshmen.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: You need to re-up. By the way, I got Michigan
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: on the line or Ohio State, and they're thinking about
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: adding you for one year. That's what pisses fans off.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: And I get it. I get pissed off about that too.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Like if you're going to make that level of a
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: financial commitment to, by the way, kids from high school
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: that have never proven anything in college, my return on
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: that investment would be to that player. Again, I'm the
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: coach and Jonathan Hutton's the player. Is Jonathan, you're in
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: this with me now. Like we're going to build this
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: together and we're going to have success together. I don't
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: need you coming to my office after six months trying
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: to renegotiate this three-year deal. Yeah.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: But it's going to be renegotiated. That's the problem with
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: the sport.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: And I wish there was a way that the player
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: could say, Coach, I'm invested in you. Don't leave me
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: high and dry after a year. Don't bounce for the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: extra million. But everybody's bouncing around.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I wish it was like it was.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Catfish Jake in the YouTube chat, Hutton, to your point
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: and our point on this, says if Keylon Russell or
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Faison Brandon goes off this year and gets their.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Team to the playoffs, which.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: We both said I think Tennessee and Alabama are fringe,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: end-of-the-playoff-type teams or.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Out, I think. They're going to make a ton next season.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: They're already making a ton. This is my point. He's right.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: They could then renegotiate and say they could hold their
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: team hostage and be like, do you want another playoff
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: trip similar to Nico? But I hate how that's how
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: it operates. I want contracts to matter. There's my thesis
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: statement on college sports. If we're going to get to
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: a place where we're all okay with it, I'm fine
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: with the players making money. I'm fine with them making
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of money if everybody's making money and everybody
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: can pull it off at the highest level. I'm good
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: with that. Let's make contracts matter again. Instead of MAGA,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: let's MCGA. Let's make contracts great again. And let's start
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: with college sports and players.
• 20:10
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• 20:14
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• 21:27
  Speaker 3: coaches on the hot seat right now, I... I'm looking
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: There's a course in the SEC. We saw a major
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: turnover this year. But as far as guys who have
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: to win, I'm immediately thinking South Carolina.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Am I stupid for thinking that?
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: That immediately comes to mind for me.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I think there are only two. This is very rare
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: for the SEC. Right now, as we start the season,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: like last year, everyone knew that Billy Napier could get
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: fired quickly at Florida, right?
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Going into it. Not just at the end of the year.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: For the last two years, we were counting.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like this thing could go south, and it went
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: south in a hurry, and he got fired in a
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: hurry a year ago. I think there are two guys
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: this year in the SEC going into the season. Now,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: we know Brian Kelly wasn't on the hot seat last
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: year going into it, right?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: He was, but he wasn't. But things can change quickly.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: James Franklin is a good example. Exactly.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: No one had James Franklin on the hot seat. I
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: think there are two guys that in the SEC, and
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: that's it, in the SEC, I could conceivably see getting
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: fired either midseason or postseason this year in the SEC.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: It's Shane Beamer at South Carolina. It's Jeff Levy at
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Mississippi State. I don't really see anyone else on any
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: hot seat at all, right? Unless I'm missing something.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I don't either. There's a lot of new coaches to start.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I just, I don't really see it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: But, Hutton, there are two guys that play this weekend,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: week zero as we're calling it, this weekend that are
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: firmly on the hot seat. Bill Belichick in North Carolina,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: who I've got to parlay for you to play at
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: some point too, who is a nine-and-a-half point underdog against TCU,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: and I think that they're going to get blown out
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: in that game.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: He's on the hot seat firmly.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: And Mike Norvell is absolutely on the hot seat. Mike
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Norvell was surprised that he came back this year. But
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: they play New Mexico State this weekend also. Mike Norvell
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: at Florida State, who had that one great year, is
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: 38-34 over six years. He's gotten six years at Florida State.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: That's 38-34 in what has been a pretty down ACC
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: during his time there.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Absolutely has been. That is not going to cut it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to speak this into existence, but I
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: can totally see Tennessee not living up to the expectation
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: that we're putting on them where they're a fringe playoff team.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and the fans are saying it's not Josh Heupel. I'm
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: not saying it's this year, but I think the talk
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: could happen if things go south in a hurry.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's going to build. It's going to build.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: If someone asks, is Josh Heupel on the hot seat,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I'd say absolutely not right now. Is he always one
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: possible season or a half season away from the hot seat?
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Yes. I mean, yes.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: If Tennessee was five and seven, at the end of
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: this year, then he's on the hot seat next year.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Because in doing that, you didn't beat anybody, basically, is
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: what you're saying at the end of the year. You
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: didn't get one marquee win. So then he would definitely
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: be on the hot seat going into the following year.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: But I don't have anywhere near it right now. The
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: other guy who was a big surprise that he got
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: another year is Luke Fickle, who is 17-21 at Wisconsin.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going through the list of possibilities hunting in Big
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Ten and SEC.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I forget. I'm amazed some guys are still at their school.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Luke Fickle being one of them. You almost forget about it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: He was so bad.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin didn't have a chance to get any... They weren't
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: getting any action on the coaches because there were so
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: many openings in the SEC.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: That's how I viewed it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: His buyout's like $ 25 million, something like that, probably.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: It's kind of similar to what Nebraska did with Scott Frost.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: He should have been fired the year before, but they didn't.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: They just restructured his contract and He kind of gave
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: them a hometown out in all of that because of
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: how he did it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: The buyouts were insane.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: It's crazy to me because it's not just the record, too.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of negative press around that program.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Of guys complaining about the culture and a lot of
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: different things.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: And then you've got Lincoln Riley. Of how he's treated people.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley's buyout is like $ 60, $ 70 million. Yes, absolutely.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: crazy um hey by.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: The way was speaking of wisconsin hutton though before that
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and i'll get to my parlay too um wisconsin opens
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: the season against notre dame keep that in mind that's
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: on sunday of labor day weekend uh they're going to
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: play notre dame out of the gate so that's that's
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: one to watch i think that game's at lambeau field are.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: You dialing it up are you saying what 100 asked
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: on that I would be surprised if.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: That was a really good game, yes. I think Notre
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Dame's going to handle that one with ease. I also
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: think that TCU is going to handle North Carolina with ease.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Here's my week zero parlay with hard rock bet. I've
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: got the pencil. I'm writing it down right now.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Give me TCU minus 9.5. There are teaser options at
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: hard rock bet. If you'd like to tease that down
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: a little bit, I would say take that juice, take
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: that action, go down a little bit on it. But
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: TCU minus 9.5, I think they beat North Carolina by
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: double digits. I like UNLV. I like their two quarterback options.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I like Dan Mullen. I don't love Memphis breaking in
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: a new coach. Dan Mullen now in year two at UNLV.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Give me the running Rebs, minus three and a half
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: at home against Memphis.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: And the Wahoos, baby.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Virginia is minus three and a half at hard rock
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: bet against NC State. I'm never much of a believer
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: in Dave Dorn and NC State.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not this year. Virginia coming off a great year.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Give me Tony Elliott in Virginia, minus three and a
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: half at home That's the 2.30 ESPN game tomorrow afternoon.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: TCU minus 9.5, UNLV minus 3.5, UVA minus 3.5. I
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: went with two home favorites there, Hutton, and we're going
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: TCU on the neutral site in Dublin, Ireland.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Let's show the injury report for this game. There are
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: officially 15 players ruled out for Virginia. I mean, look
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: at this. Look at this list. The initial report earlier
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: in the week looked like this. There's a handful of
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: names that are not present on Virginia's list right now,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: but there are 15 players already ruled out. I don't
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: know what is going on in their camp, but at
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: some point you just break camp and you say, hey,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: let's just wait until the season if you have this
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: many injuries.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many of them, it looks like
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: they just employ people on the back end of the
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: 105 roster. to be coaches, and they just list them
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: as out even though they're not physically able to play football.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Those are actually just offensive and defensive analysts that are
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: listed as out for Virginia. I don't know how you
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: could have that many injuries already and then be on
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the roster still. I feel like these are all guys
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: who have just graduated onto coaching at this point at Virginia.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the graduate assistant. Imagine being in college right now, dude,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and you're already graduated. You have no class. and you
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: just get to go play a football season, and then
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you're graduating. How awesome would that be? Zero to do.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: You've already graduated. Now you just get to play your
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: final season.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Again, I don't know what the workload's like for guys
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: even before they graduate. They also graduate so quickly. I
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: was at my daughter's school board meeting the other night.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: The headmaster of the school was going through different statistics,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: and the average at this school that my daughter goes to,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Donaldson Christian Academy, their seniors go to college with at
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: least 15 hours of college credit based on AP courses
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: they take at the school that my daughter goes to.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, that's a semester in. So you're a
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: semester in when you start. If you go off to
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: summer school to start college, you're done with a year,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: year and a half of school already.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's graduating in three years now. If you're
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: an athlete, you're done in three years. I realize that
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: there's a cost deal here. Like you want to speed
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: things up for the cost of college.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: But man, if I'm the student, if I'm the kid,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I do not want to speed up my college experience at.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: All.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, you're right. Yes. But I mean, imagine reducing your
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: college years.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: At school right now, but I don't want her to
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: hear that because that would absolutely be my advice to
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: anyone else is savor the college experience.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: You don't have to be in a rush.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I had a buddy who went off to summer school
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: because he just wanted to get done with college so quick.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: And he was done in like.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Two and a half or three years, you know, staying
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: for summers the whole time. And I'm thinking I'd That
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: is not the college experience that I would want. But
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: kids these days, man, there's a lot of, like, I
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: saw a buddy sent me a text of a highlight package,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: because we're doing high school football now, of his kid
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: in high school playing, I think, at NBA. He has
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: a 5.5 GPA. And I'm thinking, how is that possible?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: So everything he takes is AP, so it goes up to, like,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: a possible 6.0 scale. Like, there's a competitive aspect to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the grade point average.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I get all that. Like, whatever. I remember being in college.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: There was like a 12-year-old who was like a college.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: He was like, you know. You went to school with
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Doogie Howser? I didn't know Doogie Howser was from McMinnville.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I remember thinking like, that kid's going to be miserable, man.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Like he's graduating at 14. He's just going to be
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: a college grad.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: And then what? You know, like.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: And also, you were doing harm to your child, like
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: making them have to socialize. when they're 12 or 13
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: in high school, if they're like bumping them up so much.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's, that's not right for the kid.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm thinking like, he's on college campus taking college
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: courses at 12 years old. I'm thinking, I mean, I, okay.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: He wants to be, no one can challenge him, I guess,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: but I'm thinking, what does he do when he graduates
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  Speaker 1: at 14?
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  Speaker 3: Nothing. You know, like, does he go to medical school?
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: He goes to the all skate bowling alley. I mean,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: he's going to, he's going to grad school. He's going
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: to get that PhD by the time he's 18, by
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: He's an adult. By the time he can vote, he's
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: going to have his PhD. He's a 19-year-old dentist by
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: the end of it? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: School is very– we say all this stuff. We know
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: that school is very different. College is very different now.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: But these college football players, like I just don't– you
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: don't get like the college game day feature on a
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: guy who's got a difficult major who like has to
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: run from the lab.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: To get to practice on time anymore like you did
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  Speaker 3: back in the day. I'm with you. They all feel
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: the same.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying they're not smart. I'm not saying
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: they're not taking classes online or any of that. I'm
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: just saying it's not as big of a deal as
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: it was before.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: That brings up a good point. Vanderbilt, when we were
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: interviewing some of the players and they were telling us
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: their major, it was refreshing to actually hear a major,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: you know, like a difficult major.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: It was refreshing to hear the Vandy players say they
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: have to go to physical classrooms.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: They don't do as many online courses.
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  Speaker 1: Great.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: That's awesome. You get to experience college. Congrats. The way
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: the rest of us did. As it should be. Coming up.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Titans and Bears preseason game. We'll briefly discuss Cam Ward
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and expectations and what we haven't seen. We'll let you
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: know what both of us and Clay, what we binge
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: watched on the drive back from Birmingham and how awesome
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: And high school football. Friday Night Lights. Chad with a
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: challenge for those viewing this morning. Sutton and Withrow.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Chad, the NFL preseason nearly over as we all know.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Say hallelujah. If you're watching preseason tonight, don't.
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  Speaker 3: Don't. Go to a high school football game, says Chad Withrow.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Go to a high school football game.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I'm actually texting with a high school football coach right now.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: And this is terrific. He's sending me some info on
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the game. Josh Crouch at Green Hill High School. Thank
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: you for that. Much appreciated for the two deep that
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: he's texting me as we speak. We got a call
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: of Green Hill at Page tonight. We're excited about that
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: in the mid-state. Here's my challenge to everyone watching this
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: right now, because not enough people do this anymore. Go
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: to a high school football game. I had this conversation
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: with some people last night at the event with Next
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Round Live that we grew up with high school sporting
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: events where there was always like three or four older couples.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: that had season tickets, that went to every town sporting
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: event just because it was what they wanted to do on.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: A Friday night. It was their pro sports.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: And you would go and greet them after the game
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: if you were a player, and it was awesome. And
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I look back at that now, and I'm like, you
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: don't see as much of that going on. We were
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: at Smyrna last week. I was in Smyrna High School
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: here in the Mid-State, and they had a PA announcer
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: who's been doing the game since 1992. He remembered calling
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: me in high school playing basketball against Smyrna when he was.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Five, six years into the job.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: As the high school PA announcer, you don't get that
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: level of commitment as much anymore. Start that trend back.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Let's be big about our community. Wherever you live, go
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: to the local high school. It could be the local
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: private school. It could be the local public school.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Don't care.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Spend your Friday night going to a high school football game.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: You're going to feel good about it. It's you giving
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: back when you spend that money to go into the gate.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: That's helping the programs, helping the schools. Also, it gets
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: it wets the appetite for football starting tomorrow with college
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: football games. You can watch big college football weekend next
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: week weekend kicking off the season. This is a good
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: way to get into it right off the bat. Go
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: to a high school football game tonight.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I beg you.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: That is my challenge to everyone. Hit us up in
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: the YouTube chat. Let me know what game you're going to.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I know our YouTube chat and they're going to at
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: least try to go to a game. So let us
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: know what game you're going to tonight.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: And tag along with us.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: We're going to be on at UCR Midstate is the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel, Chad. I've got that right this week. I
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: say that because tonight I am going to throw in
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: a going for the bundle. You better believe it. I
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: didn't work it in last week. We're going for the
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: bundle tonight on the broadcast in honor of Mark Howard.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: You hit it last week one time, Hutton. My wife
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: actually tuned in the last five minutes of our game.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And she said, I tuned in just in time to
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: hear Hutton say, going for the bundle.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I don't even remember saying it. At one point. I'm
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: glad I did. It was such a great play. I
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: think we blacked out in the moment. Didn't even know
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: you were doing it. But you did say, yes, going
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: for the bundle. Yeah.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: We're also, did you see, we're going to be sitting
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: outside the press box tonight. We are going to be
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: with the public. We are in the visitor bleachers tonight.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: We are going to annoy the fans.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Never done that before. Should we whisper like we're at
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: a golf tournament? You know me. It's hard for me
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: to do that. It's hard for me, too. Neither one
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: of us have been accused of being quiet. with our voices.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: So that's going to be tough. I'm also anticipating your
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: parents turning around, looking at it strange because you mispronounced
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: a name. Or a pronunciation. Or say something like, hey,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: he's a junior, actually. He's a junior. There's going to
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: be people saying that. We're like, oh, okay. You completed
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: eight passes last week, not seven.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: This is going to be Ella, who does our sideline reporting,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: our producer there.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: This is going to be a good lesson with them.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: of keep these people off of us. Yes. They've got
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: to serve as the buffer.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Also, feel free to tell them we're on air if
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: they're going to come up and try to talk to
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: us while we're doing the game with a headset on.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: So feel free to do whatever you need during this game.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Hey, it's fun. In all seriousness, it was great being
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: around the atmosphere of high school football last Friday. It
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: was great last week.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: We're excited to call the game tonight with UCR.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: But again, I just implore everybody watching, anybody listening to
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the podcast right now, maybe you're listening– and it's late
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: afternoon on a Friday and you don't have any plans tonight,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: get your ass to a high school football game. That's
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: what I'm telling you to do.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Do it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: You're not going to feel bad about it. You're going
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: to leave feeling great. It's a little slice of Americana.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: You're helping out your local school, helping out your alma mater.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: If you live close to your alma mater, just go
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: And another thing you should do is binge tires like
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: we did last night on the drive back from Birmingham.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: How many episodes did we get in? So we were
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: all a little bit tired, a little bit grumpy. We
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: had a quick trip down. We were there for about
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: 90 minutes, two hours at the event. Got back in
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: our car, riding back. Had a nice big TV in
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: front of us. And I said, Braves just won. Feeling
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: good about that. You know what I'm going to do?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to fire up season three of Tires because
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I talked about it on the show, how it's the
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: funniest thing on.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: TV right now. It was great, man.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: And sure enough, you and Clay both had not seen
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: that season. Clay had never seen a second of the show.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: But it's hard to get Clay locked in. on anything
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: and away from his phone for a while because he's
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: very busy on that phone. But he did, he put
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: the phone down and he watched and he was cracking
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: up the whole time. Tire season three delivers catfish shakes
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: in the YouTube chat. I know he's a big fan also,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: but we got into episode seven of a 12 episode season.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: So that's how quickly that thing rolls.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: It's like Veep, right? Like it's a 30 minute show.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: It's perfect time. Uh, I like it because it feels
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: a lot like eastbound and down and, uh, Righteous Gemstones
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: a bit. You can tell the writers are really good friends.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of the show is ad-lib,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: but it does feel like a little bit is. I
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: don't know how those dudes get through an episode without
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: just cracking up and actually delivering the lines.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I would have a really difficult time
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: doing it.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: They're very good. I just like when someone's allowed to
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: create their own world. And it's so clear that Netflix
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: is just giving them the freedom. But, hey, this is
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: like a sketch you guys wrote back in college or
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: right out of college. Like, just go ahead and do
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: that show. And there has to be a lot more
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: structure with it. And it's well produced. Like, it's not
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: some knockoff. You know, they have different set pieces. We
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: watched the women's business event, which I love the episode,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: where they get out of the tire place and they
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: go to a women in business dinner.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Which is fantastic. It's really well done.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I think anytime funny people are around other funny people
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: and they know each other and they know the backhand
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: and the shorthand of everything they're doing comedically. and you
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: allow them to create, you get some really good stuff.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I feel that way about Tim Robinson and the sketch
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: show and now the chair company. It feels so worn
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: out and lived in. I feel like I'm in Valley
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Forge Automotive now.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Tire shop.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like actors being in Valley. These feel
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: like actual people at Valley Forge automotive that you would encounter.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Uh, by the way, Chad, this entire show, my chair
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: slowly goes down during this segment.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I can't, I can't keep it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Uh, do you remember our old gig in the studio
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: where like my mic would slowly just drop?
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not touching it. And they're like, you've done something
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: to it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, it was like, uh, I'm watching Lioness,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: and she's getting Chinese water torture done to her, slowly,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: over and over, and I'm actually watching it on screen.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: That's what I felt like with my mic. It was
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: a psychological experiment. I'm like, this mic is two centimeters
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: lower than it was 30 minutes ago, and I have
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: not touched a thing.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's up with this. It slowly just drops.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Final thought real quick. Titans-Bears in the preseason. I feel
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: like Cam Ward's feeling a little bit of the heat
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: right now, a little pressure. And he's 0-2 in terms
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: of wowing anything, wowing anyone in preseason games. It's time
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: for him to.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Put up some drives.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about a field goal drive. Oh, we
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: went down and got points. No, no, no, no, no.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I want to see him push the ball down the field.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: The run game can do whatever. I want to see
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: him and Dable play. being locked up going into the
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: regular season. We have not seen that yet. He needs
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: to show it.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Well, and I heard him answering questions from Jared Stillman
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: at the press conference yesterday.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: And he's kind.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Of making it like, well, I look better in practice
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: because we're doing more in practice. So we're putting more
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: plan into it and practices. So that's better than the games.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: And I'm thinking that that's, it's a load of crap
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: when you're talking about playing against backups. Like you're out
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: there to play, even if you're playing the most generic
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: play as possible in a game, like, We were watching
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: NFL Live on the drive up yesterday, and Chase Daniel
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: was showing how he's just not seeing things from a
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: vision standpoint. Here's a play where a guy's wide open
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: to start the 49ers game, and he's sensing pressure that
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: wasn't really there. He's stepping up in the pocket for
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: no reason, and then he's missing the guy who's wide open.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear the excuses from Cam Ward.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Go out and play better.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: I'm with you.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: He needs to feel that pressure, honestly. I want to
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: see a driven... pressure-filled Cam Ward go out and do
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: something better, even if it's just a preseason game.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: It's time to see Cardinal Tate, the defensive line. There
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: are a lot of things that the Titans need to
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: show before they go into a must-win game against the
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: New York Jets. Hey, fun week here at Sporting State
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: for Hudney Withrow. Stay tuned because next round live coming
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: your way right now here at Sporting State.