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Dad shot 9 times by teen assassin, survives. Who wants Baron Li dead? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Why was a Washington dad
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  Speaker 1: gunned down? Shot nine times? The answer is going to
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  Speaker 1: surprise you. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace with me an
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  Speaker 1: all star panel to break it down and put it
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  Speaker 1: back together again. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags,
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  Speaker 1: the host of Live with Doctor Wendy on KCBQ Radio.
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  Speaker 1: At Wendy Patrick PhD dot com. Cheryl McCollum, forensics expert
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  Speaker 1: and director of the Cold Case Research Institute. Doctor Bethany Marshall,
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  Speaker 1: psychoanist joining us from Beverly Hills. You can find it
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  Speaker 1: at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Joseph's Got Morgan, Professor Forensics,
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on
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  Speaker 1: Amazon Now. Host a hit series on the True Crime Network,
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  Speaker 1: Poisonous Liaisons, But First. Nicole Aparton Crime Online dot Com
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter Nicole Take a Listen to Alison Grande k
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  Speaker 1: I R O seven. On July tenth, Lee was walking
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  Speaker 1: to his car at the overlook at Lake Mount Apartments
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  Speaker 1: when he heard the first shot, then a second. That
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  Speaker 1: bullet had hit my right arm, and then I looked
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  Speaker 1: to my right, and I saw this guy running to
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  Speaker 1: me with the gun still firing too. Lee got to
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  Speaker 1: his car and tried to protect his head and chest.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking, oh my god, I'm dead. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he's standing right over me with the gun point you're
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  Speaker 1: right at me. After more gunshots, the bullets finally ran out,
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  Speaker 1: and Lee lived so amazingly after taking nine bullets. And
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  Speaker 1: remember that twelve bullets in the twelve entry exit wounds
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  Speaker 1: you're hearing include some of those nine. Exactly what are
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  Speaker 1: they saying, Joe Scott Morgan. They're saying that these rounds
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  Speaker 1: literally passed through this guy's body. Nancy, there's twelve entrants
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  Speaker 1: and exit wounds, and just imagine this for a second,
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  Speaker 1: that you're being shot while someone's advancing on you and
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  Speaker 1: no major organ systems are hit, nothing, but this guy
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  Speaker 1: is in serious, serious pain because of so much muscular
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  Speaker 1: damage and neurodamage as well. I mean, the guy is
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  Speaker 1: bleeding out right there on the pavement with all of
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  Speaker 1: those entrances and exit wounds to use. Cheryl McCollum, director
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  Speaker 1: of the Coldcase Research Institute, forensics expert, it's gotta be
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  Speaker 1: csize dream scene, dream crime scene. Why well, Nancy, You've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of physical evidence. You're going to have
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  Speaker 1: shellcase scenes. You're going to have the fact that they
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  Speaker 1: had to use three tourniquets, So again, three tourniquets tells
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  Speaker 1: you the amount of bleeding. So you're going to have
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  Speaker 1: the exact position where the shooter was from where he
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  Speaker 1: was cowarding and hiding and approaching the victim. You're going
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  Speaker 1: to have surveillance video, hopefully from the apartment complex. You
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  Speaker 1: may even have video from you know, flock cameras or
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  Speaker 1: ring doorbells of them coming in or coming out. You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of evidence in a very small
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  Speaker 1: amount of space. Now the question will be will it
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  Speaker 1: be handled properly? This is out in the open and
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  Speaker 1: a parking lot of an apartment complex. How quickly can
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  Speaker 1: that scene become contaminated? To Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor author
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  Speaker 1: I've read and flags. You know, it's very rare that
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  Speaker 1: you get that much forensic evidence. But think about it.
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  Speaker 1: You get a bullet, You get a bullet, a showcasing
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  Speaker 1: that does not lead you to the killer. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to take detective work, no doubt. Not only does it
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  Speaker 1: take detective work, but when you do have a victim that,
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  Speaker 1: thank god, survives the injury, sometimes they're the best source
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  Speaker 1: of information. But this crime scene was a forensic dream.
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  Speaker 1: But there were so much evidence. It was just rich
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  Speaker 1: and the kind of trails that investigators can then follow
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  Speaker 1: to develop leads, even things as simple as placement of showcasing,
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  Speaker 1: types of bullets, footprints, track marks, all the kinds of
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  Speaker 1: things that thankfully were collected before they were contaminated. That
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  Speaker 1: is going to tell a story in and of itself,
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  Speaker 1: in addition to any live witness testimony. And it's so
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  Speaker 1: important because this guy sustaining nine to twelve bullet wounds,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to preserve the same in case the victims
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  Speaker 1: should then die. To doctor Bethany Marshal, imagine that crouch
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  Speaker 1: down and a gun and that you don't recognize coming
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  Speaker 1: closer and closer and closer and targeting you. There's no rape,
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  Speaker 1: there's no theft. It's not a car jackie to take
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  Speaker 1: your car, and seemingly it's like out of a horror movie.
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  Speaker 1: The guy gets closer and closer to you and keep shooting. Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: I cannot imagine how traumatic and unimaginable undigestible. That experience
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  Speaker 1: would have been. I know I'm always talking about trauma,
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  Speaker 1: but in this case, it's this trauma is a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: unanticipated event for which there's no preparation, there's no learning,
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  Speaker 1: nothing prepares the human mind to integrate something like this.
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  Speaker 1: And you heard him say on air, I thought I'm dead.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine in a moment, thinking that you are
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  Speaker 1: going to die? I had it happened to me once.
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  Speaker 1: I was buried live in a landslide. I was doing
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  Speaker 1: a mission project in Mexico, and I remember thinking I'm dead.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. I'll never have children, I'll never get married.
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  Speaker 1: It is the most surreal experience because you just know
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  Speaker 1: it's going to happen. It's a certainty. I was rescued,
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  Speaker 1: of course, and this man fortunately sustained no organ damage
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  Speaker 1: and that's why he lived. Still, the possibility of bleeding
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  Speaker 1: out the mind of the assassin to shoot to multiple times,
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  Speaker 1: leaving line there on the pavement alone and bleeding shooting
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  Speaker 1: until they run out of bullets. I mean, Cheryl mccollumb,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like somebody that's saying one too many action
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  Speaker 1: movies or spy thrillers where you see the shoot until
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  Speaker 1: they run out of bullets. Nancy, that takes Tom as well.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of times if you have like a drive
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  Speaker 1: by shooting, they're driving and moving and they get out
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  Speaker 1: of there. This person continued to go toward the victim
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  Speaker 1: in this really sinister way to make sure this person
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  Speaker 1: was dead, stood right over them and continued to shoot.
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  Speaker 1: And Cheryl will call them. The fact that I just
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  Speaker 1: mentioned that there's no sex attack, there's no robbery, there's
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  Speaker 1: no car theft, nothing. The two had not been in
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  Speaker 1: a previous altercation. Victim didn't even recognize the guy. That
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  Speaker 1: tells me a lot about who is the perp. It
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  Speaker 1: tells you a whole lot. Especially it appears that there
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  Speaker 1: was one target and one target only, and this person
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  Speaker 1: was trying their best to make sure this victim did
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  Speaker 1: not survive. To Nicole Pardon joining me Crime online dot
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  Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter, what can you tell me about the incident?
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  Speaker 1: When this dad is seemingly targeted out in a parking lot,
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  Speaker 1: how did it happen? So? Barren Lee, forty eight years old,
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  Speaker 1: gets up to start his day normal routine. He's a
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  Speaker 1: sales manager at a local car dealership, grabbed his car keys,
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  Speaker 1: heads out of his apartment, walks to the car, and
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  Speaker 1: he said, he heard a pop, a crack. He thought
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  Speaker 1: it was a window breaking. He looked at his left
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  Speaker 1: and didn't see anything. He looks to the right and
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  Speaker 1: he sees a gunman standing over him. And he said,
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  Speaker 1: at that moment, his keys fell from his right hand
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  Speaker 1: because he had been shot in the right arm. So
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  Speaker 1: he's scurrying on the ground trying to get his keys
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  Speaker 1: to unlock the car door so that he can take
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  Speaker 1: cover behind the car door. Meanwhile, the gunman standing over
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  Speaker 1: him continues at close range the fire shots at him.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he just brought up something very interesting to me,
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  Speaker 1: the fact that this happened first thing in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: You know, cherylm gonna call him. You and I've worked
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  Speaker 1: a lot of crime scenes, a lot of homicide scenes,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't normally say murders going down at eight am.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a fact. It's a fact. And in an
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  Speaker 1: apartment complex there's usually a lot of movement. Also, kids
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  Speaker 1: are back in school. There could have been a children around.
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  Speaker 1: He could have had his own children with him taking
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  Speaker 1: them to school. I mean, it's just a really unusual situation.
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  Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace. Why is a dad the
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  Speaker 1: target of a hitman? That's what we're talking about right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take a listen to this. The vicious shooting of
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  Speaker 1: Baron Lee is not the kind of case Bellevue PDC's often.
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  Speaker 1: What happened to Lee on the morning of July tenth
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  Speaker 1: is he walked out his front door to head to
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  Speaker 1: work is what nightmares are made of. As he walked
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  Speaker 1: to his car, he was confronted by an assailant that
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  Speaker 1: he didn't recognize. The assailant shot him about eight or
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  Speaker 1: nine times. The victim fell to the ground. The suspects
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  Speaker 1: stood over him and continued to fire. Incredibly, he lived.
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  Speaker 1: That was our friend Olivia Levoy's thirteen Fox Seattle. But
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  Speaker 1: listen to our friends at Inside Edition. I took a
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  Speaker 1: shot behind my right leg and that's when I fell
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  Speaker 1: to the ground, pulled myself behind the car door. He
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  Speaker 1: comes around the door and he's standing over me at
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  Speaker 1: point blank range. Fired the first shot without looking and
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  Speaker 1: went in my chest. Here he shot me in the leg,
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  Speaker 1: in the hip, and twice in the arm until the
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  Speaker 1: clip emptied. Did you think this was a random attack
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  Speaker 1: or did you think it was something else, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean from the get go, I just was wondering
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  Speaker 1: who was that. So we're learning more and more about
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  Speaker 1: the shooting of a young dad, a dad who as
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  Speaker 1: a child expecting him to be there after school. But
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  Speaker 1: that's not what the assailant had in mind. Nine to
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  Speaker 1: twelve gunshot, bullets are fired, and this one person and
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  Speaker 1: here we hear even more to Dr Bethany Marshall's psychoanast
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  Speaker 1: joining me out of Beverly yields. The dad tries to
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  Speaker 1: crawl away, and the assailant follows him around the car
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  Speaker 1: and keeps shooting. I mean, this is not an intended yet,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, Nancy. This perpetrator wanted
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  Speaker 1: this dad dead. He wanted him dead. He was so
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  Speaker 1: determined to do it. But even if it was a
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  Speaker 1: murder for higher plot, I hit job. The perpetrator didn't
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  Speaker 1: even have enough bullets to carry out the job correctly. Well,
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  Speaker 1: hold on, I think he had enough bullet, Cheryl McCollum,
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  Speaker 1: I think he just didn't know what he was doing.
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  Speaker 1: Nine bullets that's not enough, or twelve bullets, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: one bullet could do the shrink should only take one.
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  Speaker 1: It only take one. He was This was just a
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  Speaker 1: hand to God moment, is all I can tell you.
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  Speaker 1: This man survived by the grace of God, not anything
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  Speaker 1: this potential killer did. I'll tell you that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's really rare to justice. Guy Morgan outside, I guess
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  Speaker 1: a combat situation where somebody that sustains nine bullets lives. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is Nancy. And you would think that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in some of that they'd hit the jackpot relative to
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  Speaker 1: you know, a fatal entry and exit. You know, this
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  Speaker 1: tells me a lot about the person that did this.
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  Speaker 1: If this was a professional hit, if this was somebody
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  Speaker 1: that was tasked with this job. Professional killers, they use
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  Speaker 1: the least amount of deadly force as possible because they
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  Speaker 1: understand that something that Mack and I both understand, and
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  Speaker 1: that is we want to leave as little evidence of
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  Speaker 1: our existence behind. This guy goes through an entire magazine
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  Speaker 1: of of of projectiles and doesn't score a fatal hit
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  Speaker 1: under this whole thing, and it's very You got the
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  Speaker 1: guy on the ground crawling. They shot at me point
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  Speaker 1: blank range. Another point to what Joseph's got. Morgan is
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  Speaker 1: saying Cheryl mccollin, director Coalcase Research Institute. I remember you
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  Speaker 1: remember the dad says, I heard a pop. Well, a
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  Speaker 1: professional killer, of course, is going to be using a silencer.
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  Speaker 1: I remember the first time I saw a silencer. I
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  Speaker 1: was doing a search and to a luxury high rise.
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  Speaker 1: Elton John used to live beside it in the city
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  Speaker 1: of Atlanta, and we went into this drug lord's luxury
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  Speaker 1: apartment and with pursuing to warrant. Of course, I saw
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  Speaker 1: a silencer, and I knew that it was something related
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  Speaker 1: to a weapon. And I didn't tell, of course, and said,
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  Speaker 1: what is that exactly? That's a first time I had
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  Speaker 1: seen a silencer in real life, not a picture of one,
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  Speaker 1: not a description of one, but seeing one. So you
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  Speaker 1: hear the The dad says, I heard a pop. This
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  Speaker 1: clearly is an assassin. The dad is clearly the target.
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  Speaker 1: He clearly wants the guy dead. But he's not a pro, right,
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  Speaker 1: And you can tell he's not a pro by several ways.
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  Speaker 1: One the fact that he did to hear the pop,
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  Speaker 1: meaning he missed. A professional person would have hit you
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  Speaker 1: from the neck up. It would have been a kill shot.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been done. You would have never heard anything.
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  Speaker 1: You would have been dead before you hit the ground.
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  Speaker 1: So not only did he miss the first shot, he
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  Speaker 1: fired too many shot, He stayed there too long, he
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  Speaker 1: left too much evidence. He got out and walked, which
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  Speaker 1: means that potential witnesses more time on video, You're going
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  Speaker 1: to give people time to see the getaway car. He
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  Speaker 1: made so many any mistakes here doesn't look like even
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  Speaker 1: Nudi was doing. You know, I'm thinking about the case
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  Speaker 1: of Susan Burman. You remember her. I'm sure she was
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  Speaker 1: the longtime friend of they let me just say Star
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  Speaker 1: of jinxt and she suffered I think a single bullet
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  Speaker 1: wound to the head and she was killed. Of course
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about Robert Durst. The difference between that murder
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  Speaker 1: of Susan Burman and this murder is astounding. Cheryl McCollum,
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  Speaker 1: It's astounding. It's almost if it weren't the fact we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about a potential murder for her, it would
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  Speaker 1: almost be a joke. I mean, I don't know who
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  Speaker 1: this person was, but outside of a video game, they
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  Speaker 1: would have absolutely no luck at killing anybody. It's interesting
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  Speaker 1: that you said video game. Who would want this dad dead?
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to Olivia Lavoy's Q thirteen Fox surveillance
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  Speaker 1: video led them to two seventeen year olds in Mount Vernon.
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  Speaker 1: One of the teams that apparently used a GPS tracker
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  Speaker 1: to help him down Lee's location the night before the shooting.
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  Speaker 1: A teen. A teen is the one that murders this
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  Speaker 1: forty eight year old dad who's up in the morning
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  Speaker 1: going to his job at a car lot, and a
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  Speaker 1: teen not only shoots, but thanks to get a GPS
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  Speaker 1: tracker to track down Lee. Why listen to Timmy Matuza Komo.
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  Speaker 1: Court documents paint a deliberate and disturbing murder for higher scheme.
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  Speaker 1: Bellevue police say Sharon Kelly hired a seventeen year old
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  Speaker 1: boy to murder her ex husband, Baron Lee. An offered
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  Speaker 1: to pay the teenager thirteen thousand dollars something like this
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  Speaker 1: is rare, It is rare. On the day of the
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  Speaker 1: shooting in July, police say the seventeen year old got
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  Speaker 1: his friend to drive him to the overlook at Lake
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  Speaker 1: Mont Apartments in Bellevue, where court documents say he was
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  Speaker 1: going to cap someone and empty the clip. Police say
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  Speaker 1: the seventeen year old gunman ambushed Lee, shooting him nine times.
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  Speaker 1: The victim fell to the ground. The suspects stood over
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  Speaker 1: him and continued to fire. According to court documents, Lee
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  Speaker 1: said he couldn't think of anyone who would want to
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  Speaker 1: kill him besides his ex wife, saying they were in
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  Speaker 1: the midst of a very acrimonious custody battle that also
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  Speaker 1: included a financial motive for Kelly to have sole custody
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  Speaker 1: of their child. Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. Why would
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  Speaker 1: a teen hunt down a forty eight year old dad,
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  Speaker 1: pumping him full of bullets and a public parking lot.
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  Speaker 1: We may have an answer, or listen to our friend
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  Speaker 1: at ABC's GMA, The Pilgrim, an alleged murder for higher
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  Speaker 1: plot exposed this morning. Shabrin Kelly waking up behind bars
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  Speaker 1: after allegedly offering a seventeen year old thousands of dollars
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  Speaker 1: to kill her ex husband. Looked at the riot. I
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  Speaker 1: see somebody in the mask just running at me. I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't recognize whether there's a manner or a woman or whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: Baron Lee says he's been embroiled in a bitter custody
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  Speaker 1: battle with his ex wife. In July, as he was
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  Speaker 1: walking to his car at his home in Bellevue, Washington,
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  Speaker 1: police say a seventeen year old gunman shot at him
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  Speaker 1: ten times, nine bullets, hitting him in the legs, arms,
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  Speaker 1: and chest. I was about a few feet away from
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  Speaker 1: my car and I heard it fah, so I looked
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  Speaker 1: to the left. I didn't see anybody, and then I
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  Speaker 1: heard another one and at the same time I looked right.
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  Speaker 1: But I ended up dropping my keys because I had
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  Speaker 1: been hitting my right arm. Police say the gunman shot
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  Speaker 1: Lee at point blank range, but he survived straight out.
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  Speaker 1: To Nicole Parton Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter, all
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  Speaker 1: of this over a custody battle. And how did the wife,
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  Speaker 1: Sharon Kelly, age thirty, know these two teams. We're still
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  Speaker 1: trying to find out how she found the teams. But
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  Speaker 1: when police captured her cell phone records, email records, they
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  Speaker 1: see this plot unfold. She gives them detailed information about
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  Speaker 1: how she wants her husband killed. She begins to tell
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  Speaker 1: them that she'll give them GPS location and begins to
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  Speaker 1: plan to meet them in the park to pay them
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  Speaker 1: if they will kill her husband. To you, Joseph's got Morgan.
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  Speaker 1: How does the GPS tracker work? It's Global positioning device, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about This is satellite technology. So if you
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  Speaker 1: just imagine you have a small electronic device that you
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  Speaker 1: can place on your car. This thing is to bounce
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  Speaker 1: off of a satellite, or it's going to bounce off of, say,
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  Speaker 1: for instance, if you haven't plugged in or coded to
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  Speaker 1: your phone, it'll come off of a cell tower potentially,
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  Speaker 1: and it's going to give you the ability to track
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  Speaker 1: an individual as they move. Nancy picked these things up
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  Speaker 1: at anywhere. I was just looking on Google. You can
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  Speaker 1: actually buy these right off of Amazon. They're pretty easy
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  Speaker 1: to get. This used to be really high end technology.
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  Speaker 1: It did. Do you remember Cheryl McCollum all around I
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  Speaker 1: guess it was Third Avenue and I would go to
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  Speaker 1: Court TV in the morning. There was a couple of
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  Speaker 1: spice shops and that was a hot technology Cheryl, to
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  Speaker 1: get a GPS tracker. Exactly how do they work? What
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  Speaker 1: do they look like, Cheryl? They're very small, Nancy, And
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  Speaker 1: all you've got to do. They have like a magnetized
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  Speaker 1: thing on the bottom. You can attach it to the
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  Speaker 1: back bumper and then there's an app that goes with
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  Speaker 1: your phone and you can track that call or anywhere
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  Speaker 1: it goes. It's pretty simple. It's basically, find my iPhone
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  Speaker 1: if you will. I gotta gotta make one point jump
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  Speaker 1: because this is this is blowing my mind that this
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  Speaker 1: woman goes to a seventeen year old Nancy. You can
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  Speaker 1: look under any desk at any high school. Teenagers are
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: not responsible with chewing gum. Hell in God's name, did
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: she think a seventeen year old was going to be
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the person that she needed to hire for a hit man?
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: My mind, it's laughable if it weren't so terribly sad
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: for this man. And that is the perfect queue to
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: go to our shrink doctor, Bethanie Marshall. What was she, Frankie, Bethany?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I was going to jump in right there anyway. Do
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you remember the polito who also put a hit out
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: on my husband? But in this case it was a
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: police officer. So you know, these people who want to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: murder their spouses are not the the smartest tool in
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the shed, or however we say it. I think the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: answer is, I don't know. If you've seen her picture,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: she's absolutely gorgeous, but she looks quite immature to me,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And you know how we think about right now, he's gorgeous,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and who looks who's immature. Okay, the ex wife of
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Barren Lee is beautiful. She looks a little bit like
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman, a tiny, tiny bit just yes, beautiful, long reddish,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: blondish looking hair, perfect teeth, bluish green eyes. I mean
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: she is, she's physically beautiful. But what does that had
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: to do with anything? Well, where I was going with
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: this is female perpetrators who who either molest or bring
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: young men or children into their thick, twisted world are
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: often quite immature themselves. Remember the girl with the pinky
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: pinky promise what was her name? Oh boy, molested a
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: young teenager and you have her husband many many, many times. Yes, yes,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: she beautiful, but quite immature. I was imagine you're talking
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: that's right. So I would imagine that Baron Lee's ex wife,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: who again is gorgeous, was probably quite immature and maybe
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: low iq not thinking things through. Just only had one
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: goal in mind, which was to have her husband dead.
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  Speaker 1: She never even thought through the fact that a teenager
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: would not be able to carry this out. For all
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I know, she was having an affair with the teenager
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: or some kind of a love relationship or really interesting
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that you're saying, you're commenting on the wife, the x
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: wife's immaturity and she hires a seventeen year old to
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: commit a murder and get away with it. And speaking
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of getting away with it and take a listen to
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: our friend, Eva Pilgrim ABCGMA. Police say surveillance video near
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the scene captured the license plate of the getaway truck,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: leading detectives to the shooter, who, according to court documents,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: was going to be paid over thirteen thousand dollars for
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: his role in the shooting. According to that document, the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: shooter offered to pay the driver, another seventeen year old,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: between four and six thousand dollars for driving the escape vehicle.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Court documents also say there was a tracking device purchased
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: by Kelly un Lee's car, and that the alleged team
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: gunman had forwarded himself an email containing a link to
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: a GPS monitoring company's log in web page the night
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: before the shooting. The two detectives went downstairs to the vehicle,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the victim's vehicle that we had seized the day of
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the shooting, looked underneath and there was the GPS tracker.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: This morning, he is grateful that he survived and is
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: still here to raise his family. I don't think there's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: very many people shot as many times as I have
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: in the condition I am talking and breathing, So you know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: appreciate that idiot. Idiot idiot. You know, you don't get
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to say that very often and really mean it. But
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: he actually forwarded himself the link to the GPS device
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: exactly like the one found stuck up under the victim's car.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: As I always say, unless you want to see it
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: on page six of the New York Post, do not
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: put it in writing. You know, the other day, Cheryl McCollum,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I always look at something called good sense to figure
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: out how the twins can watch a certain movie. And
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I can't remember what movie it was. This is i'mout
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: high school students and which they love because they think
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: high school is this magical, mystical place. So I look
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: up is their sex in movie X? And of course
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: when Lucy uses my iPad that night to look up
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: some kind of banana bread recipe, there it is. Is
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: there sex sex scenes in something? Whatever? The movie? I
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: noticed what she looked at me. She didn't say anything,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: but I know that's what she saw. Anyway. My point
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: is the idiot typed in and forwarded the link to himself.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace, guys were talking about a
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: dad gunned down at least nine maybe twelve times, apparently
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: orchestrated by his wife in a custody battle, and she
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: hires not one, but two teens. Talk about not being
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: able to keep a secret. Sheryl, Well, she had to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: employ the second one because the first one didn't have
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: a car. So you know, when you're looking for hit man,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: it's important that they have their own transportation, So keep
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: that in mind. Can everybody just excuse us and forgive us?
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Isn't it true? Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, radio host, author,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: We don't get to smile very much in our line
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: of business, so just let us be happy for one
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: moment when we have a victim that lived to tell
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the tale. We're not callous, it's just we so rarely
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: get to be happy about anything. Wendy, It's true. You know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: we have to spend a silver lining in stories, and
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I mean the huge silver lining here is that, thank God,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the victims survived. You know. One of the other reasons
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: that the perpetrator hired two young boys they would accept
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: less money to pull off the hits. So we've talked
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: about how juvenile it was, how rookie it was. Well, yeah,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: because there wasn't the kind of money exchange that you
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: would expect for professional assassa. Now that ended up being
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: just a thankful circumstance, and you're absolutely right, is a
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: silver lining here. We can selebrating, maybe even laugh about
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: it a little bit for coming bat that you do
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: have him telling the story because he's still alive. Well,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think that Baron Lee would be too happy
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: with us smiling, But I'm looking at a picture of
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: him right now, standing praised. The lord beside his hospital bed,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: all stripped in with all sorts of sling on this arm,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: shoulder brace, blah blah, the guy sustaining nine to twelve
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: bullet wounds. You were saying, Cheryl before I so rudely
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: interrupted about hiring not one, but two teams. And he
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: forwarded himself the link to the tracking device. He forwarded
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: himself to link. He had to get a buddy to
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: drive him because he didn't have a car. He is,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: takes him back and forth. He leaves his cell phone
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: on and takes it with him. So now law enforcement
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: knows he made the round trip from Mount Vernon to
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the crime scene. He knows, you know, they know he
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: was in that apartment complex, his buddy, his card. They
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: didn't even bother to remove the tag while they went
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: and did it, so they were able to finding pretty
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: quick in his room. They have all the stuff on
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: his computer, on his phone, the text messages, the emails, etc.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: It's a plethora of information and evidence that law enforcement
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: has been able to get because this kid is seventeen
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: ergo stupid and he does things like tells his friend,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I gotta go cap somebody and empty the clip. Okay,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: he didn't even know the difference at the clip in
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: a magazine. And you don't even know what you're doing
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to this family. You don't know what you're fixing to do,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: not only to your life, but your dumb friend that's
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: driving you. The whole thing is so asinine. I cannot
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: help but make fun of this woman and these two teenagers. Idiots, idiots, idiots,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Long story short, the part about texting I gotta go
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: cap this guy. Somebody's been watching too many thrillers on TV.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: How about you even know how to say something like that?
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: We were shocked to learn that the mother this man's
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: child in the middle of a very acrimonious custody dispute
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: allegedly was the mastermind, if you could call it that,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: between of the murder plot. But it's not the first
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: time a very similar plot hit the headlines. Take a
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: listen to Gigi Chang ABC twenty twenty. The police definitely
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: don't believe Pam Smart. There's a whole lot of smoke
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: but no fire. Yet they have the videotaped interview from
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: a high school kid who said she offered five hundred
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: dollars for murder. They find her interview peculiar, but none
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: of this adds up to murder until they make a
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: stunning connection. So these boys, it turns out, are students
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: at the same school where pam Smart works. Not only
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: do these kids go to winn it kind of high
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: school where Pamela Smart works, and she's close to them
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: because she's working on a school project with them. Now
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: there's a connection. There's a connection between the gun, the
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: three boys, and Paneless Works. The Paneless Smart case hit
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the headlines where a I guess a teacher of sorts,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: she was more an administrative personnel that took over the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: let Me Say media program at a local school connected
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: to the brutal murder of her husband, only married one
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: year and thank You're such a sensational story. And it's
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: quite the coincueting that in one of her photos, this
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: suspect Sharon Kelly looks so much like Nicole Kidman. Take
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: a listen to Nicole Kidman movie trailer to Die For.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Susanne would do anything to be famous. She's going to
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: be the next blot of Walters to be on television.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You're not anybody in America unless you're on TV. Was
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: a chat. She would guy for you to be a star.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Are You've got to be able to do things that
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: ordinary people wouldn't do? Was the opportunity she wouldn't kill for.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what she did. Nothing that's going to
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: stop her. Yeah, that is the voice of Nicole Kidman
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: in to Die For, but it's based on a true
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: story of Pam Smart. Take a listen. You know in
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: every big trial is that one aha moment, the moment
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: everybody remembers was Simpson. It was the glove. In this case,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: it was Pam Smart and a white strapless bikini posing
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: suggestively on a bed, as if the super sensational trial
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: isn't crazy enough already. My god. They were made between
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: her and a friend, a girlfriend for a modeling contest.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: They took photos of each other. Those photographs made it
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: into court and the prosecution claimed that she had deliberately
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: taken those to be seductive to get Billy Flynn to
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: do her bidding to kill her husband. The Pam's smart
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: case made all the headlines and apparently Sharon Kelly saw
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: the movie To Die For. We'll find out about that
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: when this case heads to trial. To Nicole Parton Crime
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Online dot Com investigative reporter, where does the case stand
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: right now? Because if these two Idget teams were texting
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: back and forth, you know, there has to be texts
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: between the mastermind if I can call her that, Shavin
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Kelly and the teens. Absolutely, there was a lot of
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: text messages and emails back and forth. Even after the father,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Baron Lee, had been attacked. We have text messages coming
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: in from the gunman, Joseph Good coming into the X
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Life saying when can I get paid? And Kelly replies,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the job was unfinished. We need to finished the job.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: So even after this father has been at tech shot
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: nine times. Because he didn't die, she continued to plan
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: another hit on him. She says in one of those
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: techs sufter she has learned that he may have the
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: victim may have survived. You quote will need to complete
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: unless it resolves on its own. After her ex was
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: in the hospital Baring Lee walking to his car early
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: in the morning when he sustains multiple gunshot wounds. What
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: more do we know about the evidence, to Nicole partner
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: know there's a video surveillance the vehicle the teams were driving,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: where they got the car tag number. We know that
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: there are techs. We know that there's the GPS locator
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: that the one team emailed to himself. I assume the
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: wife bought the GPS locator. She did so. When authorities
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: begin to look into her computer record, stay saw where
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: she had ordered and purchased the exact model of the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: GPS tracker that was found on Barnley's car, and also
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: when the surveillance led them back to the getaway car,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the seventeen year old driver of that car, truck, Quincy Mendez,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: had borrowed the truck from his dad. When they questioned
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: the young man, he began to talk, and he began
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to tell them exactly what had happened. And why is
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: it you can't teach an old dog any trick, doctor
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, because court documents show that when the first
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: attempt by shaving Kelly to kill her husband failed, she
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: immediately began planning a second attempt. Well, I would wonder
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: what was the motivation. Was it to wipe him off
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the face of the earth, as we see in so
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: many domestic homicides. Was it the custody battle? Was it
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: financially motivated? I really want to know what is inside
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the mind of this woman. I'm pretty sure she was
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: seductive with those two boys. I was already thinking that,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: and then you played the clip of Nicole Kidman being
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: very seductive. So somehow I'm not quite sure how I
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: made that link, but I'm pretty sure that happened too.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: And you know, with women who are borderline, they have
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: no sense of time. Sometimes at a borderline woman that
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: comes into my office, that's a severe personality disorder that
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: causes oceanic rage. They'll say, and then my husband yelled
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: at me. And I'll say, and when was not? And
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: they'll say, well, nineteen eighty two, Oh Dear Lord in
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Heaven and then I'm like Borderline. They plot and plan
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: revenge forever. It's endless. Well. As a matter of fact,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: this one bonded out and the prosecutors argue for her
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: to be put back in jail because her attempt to
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: kill her husband was ongoing. We wait as justice unfolds.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace crime story, signing off Goodbye friend,