Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / Delphi Update - Shocking Details Unveiled on First Day of Trial
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome back, Deep Divers. Today, we are going deep on
- 0:03a case that has been all over the news, the
- 0:06Delphi murderers trial. You guys wanted to break down at
- 0:09the key facts and what's happening with the trial. Well
- 0:11that's what we're here to do.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Yeah, this case is hunted Indiana, really the whole country
- 0:15for years now. Two young girls, a peaceful trail and
- 0:19then well, tragedy. So let's unpack what we know so
- 0:23far based on what's come out of the trial.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Okay, So February thirteenth, twenty seventeen, Abbey and Livy, thirteen
- 0:29and fourteen years old, are hiking on the Moon and
- 0:31high Bridge Trail. It's near their hometown of Delphi, Indiana.
- 0:34They vanish. The community is obviously in shock, massive searches,
- 0:38but tragically.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Their bodies are found the next day near the trail,
- 0:41and the cause of death well it was brutal. Their
- 0:43throats had been cut. Details are still pretty sparse, which
- 0:46is understandable at this stage. But the brutality, I mean,
- 0:49it really just immediately turned up the pressure to find
- 0:52whoever did this.
- 0:53Speaker 1: And here's where it gets really eerie, Libvy, I mean,
- 0:55talk about presence of mind. She actually recorded video and
- 0:58audio on her phone of a man following them, Remember
- 1:02those sketches that were released.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and now at trial we're hearing even more
- 1:05about this. So the prosecution is saying that Libby's phone
- 1:08didn't just capture images, it actually recorded his voice. And
- 1:12get this, they're saying, he said girls down the hill.
- 1:16That audio, I mean, if it's as clear as they're
- 1:18making it out to be, it could be a huge
- 1:20part of their case.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Absolutely so. Richard Allen, a local resident, is arrested and
- 1:26charged with the murders after all this time, I mean,
- 1:28what led them to him after six years? Six years
- 1:30is a long time.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like a mix of old and new
- 1:34evidence kind of finally gave them what they needed. They
- 1:36say they found a match between a bullet from the
- 1:38crime scene and Alan's gun. And on top of that,
- 1:41they're claiming he made incriminating statements, although his defense is saying,
- 1:45you know that those statements were made under dress while
- 1:47he was in custody.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Okay, so those alleged confessions, that's huge, But what's the
- 1:51deal with them, Like, what do we actually know about them?
- 1:53Speaker 2: Well, we're still early in the trial. But we do
- 1:55know the prosecution is saying that he confessed to his
- 1:58wife and that he made other to correctional officers, even
- 2:02other inmates.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Man, if they have recordings of that, you think that
- 2:05would be pretty damning. I'm sure his defense team has
- 2:08something to say about all of this though.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Right Oh for sure, they're disputing it. Absolutely. It's important
- 2:13to remember too, this is just one side of the
- 2:14story right now. I mean, Alan has said he's innocent
- 2:16this whole time, and there's a long way to go
- 2:19in this trial. Speaking of his defense, so they're trying
- 2:21to like poke holes in the prosecution's case any way
- 2:26they can. You know, they're highlighting inconsistencies, trying to raise
- 2:30reasonable doubt.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's I mean, that's their job. Everyone deserves
- 2:33a fair.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Trial, exactly. And they've already said that they're going to
- 2:37question how reliable those confessions really are. And you know,
- 2:41people react to being in custody in all kinds of ways.
- 2:43Some people shut down, others might say anything to get
- 2:46out of that situation. The jury is going to have
- 2:49to decide if they think those statements were coerced or
- 2:53if they believe they came from a place of guilt.
- 2:55You know, this reminds me Alan was actually interviewed by
- 2:58police back in twenty seventeen during the initial investigation.
- 3:01Speaker 1: He was interviewed back then. Seriously, what did he tell them?
- 3:05Speaker 2: Well, according to court documents, he told police that he
- 3:08was walking on the trail that day. He actually claims
- 3:10that he saw three females on a bridge I think
- 3:13they called if the Freedom Bridge.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Okay, so he's placing himself the scene. Did he say
- 3:18anything else?
- 3:19Speaker 2: He claims he didn't interact with them at all, and.
- 3:22Speaker 1: They didn't like look into him further at that point.
- 3:25Speaker 2: It seems not No. Yeah, it's unclear why they didn't
- 3:28press him more at the time, or frankly, what made
- 3:31them take another look all these years later. But the
- 3:34prosecution is saying that they were reviewing old tips and
- 3:37that's what led them to Alan.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Huh. I guess we'll have to wait and see how
- 3:40that all shakes out as the trial goes on. So
- 3:42we've got these potential confessions, we have this possible gun link,
- 3:46and now this audio recording from Libby's phone, which I
- 3:50mean that seems like the most direct connection to what
- 3:53happened that day. So what exactly is on it.
- 3:56Speaker 2: Well, this is where it gets really interesting. So Libby
- 3:59didn't just manage to take a video of the suspect.
- 4:01Remember that grainy image of the man on the bridge.
- 4:04It was everywhere, right, So they're saying that her phone
- 4:07also captured audio, and not just any audio. They're saying
- 4:10it recorded him saying girls down the hill.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Wow, that's I mean, chilling is an understatement. If that's
- 4:16admissible in court and the jury believes it's Allan's voice,
- 4:19I mean, that's huge. Speaking of evidence, there was also
- 4:22talk of using those composite sketches that were released what
- 4:25was it, twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen. What happened there?
- 4:28Speaker 2: Yeah, the prosecution wanted to use them, but the judge
- 4:31actually decided against.
- 4:33Speaker 1: It because those sketches didn't lead to identifying Alan in
- 4:35the first.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Place exactly, And they argued that those sketches were meant
- 4:39to try and get leads early on, not to be
- 4:41used for identification later.
- 4:43Speaker 1: It makes you wonder how reliable those sketches really are
- 4:46as evidence.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Right, You've got eyewitness accounts, which we know aren't always reliable.
- 4:51Then you're using that to make a sketch then that
- 4:53gets spread to the public. It's interesting how compelling that
- 4:56kind of evidence can be, even if it might be misleading.
- 4:59But going back to the audio for a second, if
- 5:02it is his voice on that recording, it makes you think, like,
- 5:04what was his intent that day? Was he, like his
- 5:07original statement seemed to suggest, you know, just some guy
- 5:11out for a walk who happened to come across these girls,
- 5:14or was there something more going on? I think that
- 5:16recording could be really important in answering that question for sure.
- 5:19Speaker 1: And it kind of makes you wonder what else is
- 5:22on that phone? I mean, are there more videos other
- 5:24audio we haven't heard yet?
- 5:25Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what, you know, that's what makes this
- 5:28trial so captivating. Every day it seems like there's some
- 5:30new revelation. And remember, like we're still just talking about
- 5:34the prosecution side their opening statement. Who knows what the
- 5:37defense is going to come back with.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be fascinating to watch it all play out,
- 5:41that's for sure. But before we get too far into
- 5:43the trial, let's like take a step back and talk
- 5:46about Richard Allen for a second. I mean, we've talked
- 5:48about these alleged confessions, what about you know, him, Like,
- 5:51is there anything else we know about him, his demeanor,
- 5:54anything that could give us some insight into, you know,
- 5:57his guilt or innocence.
- 5:58Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you should say that his demeanor
- 6:01has actually been something people have been talking about since
- 6:03the trial started. He's appeared really stoic, unemotional, and well
- 6:09it's led to some speculation, at least among the public.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you would think, right, someone facing those
- 6:15kinds of charges would show I don't know more.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Emotion totally, But it's really important to remember that how
- 6:20someone acts in court, it doesn't always tell you everything. Like,
- 6:24there's no one right way to react in that situation.
- 6:26Some people are really open, others keep everything bottled up.
- 6:29It could even be part of their defense strategy, you know,
- 6:31a way to seem like they're in control, not phased
- 6:34by everything. In the end, it's up to the jury
- 6:37to like figure out how to interpret that along with
- 6:40all the other evidence.
- 6:41Speaker 1: That's true. Speaking of the defense, we know they're fighting
- 6:43those confession claims, but what else are they saying, Like,
- 6:47do they have any other theories about what happened?
- 6:49Speaker 2: So this is why things get a little strange in
- 6:52some of the earlier hearings, Allan's lawyers actually said that
- 6:56maybe the murders were a ritual sacrifice carried out by
- 7:00I get this, like a pagan Norse religion group or
- 7:03a white nationalist group.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Oh, hold on, a ritual sacrifice. Where is that coming from?
- 7:08Speaker 2: We don't know all the details yet, but they specifically
- 7:10mention a group called the Odonists.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Honestly, it kind of sounds like they're just reaching for
- 7:16anything at this point, trying to deflect.
- 7:18Speaker 2: It's definitely a bold claim, that's for sure, and one
- 7:20the prosecution's probably going to try and tear apart. But
- 7:23it does tell you something about their strategy here, which
- 7:25is to just introduce enough doubt, enough alternative explanations to
- 7:30make the jury unsure, you know what I mean. Yeah,
- 7:33and hey, that's their right, like we've been saying, everyone
- 7:36deserves a fair trial.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Oh for sure, absolutely, But it's also important to remember
- 7:40these are real families. They're grieving and it's unimaginable what
- 7:45they're going through. Can you imagine the pressure on both sides,
- 7:48not just to get the legal strategy right, but to
- 7:51help these families to provide some kind of closure, some justice.
- 7:55It's a lot of weight.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an enormous responsibility. And it's all happening on
- 7:59the huge national stage. You know, everyone is watching, waiting
- 8:03to see what happens.
- 8:04Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier that this trial could last a month.
- 8:06So what else should we be looking out for in
- 8:08the coming weeks.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Well, both sides are going to be calling witnesses. We'll
- 8:11probably hear from family members, law enforcement, you know, forensic experts,
- 8:15and of course there's always a chance that Richard Allen
- 8:18himself will take the stand.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Oh wow, would that be a risky move for the
- 8:23defense having him testify.
- 8:25Speaker 2: It's always a gamble. On the one hand, it gives
- 8:27him a chance to like speak directly to the jury,
- 8:30tell them he's innocent. But it also means he has
- 8:33to answer questions from the prosecution and that can be brutal.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Yeah, especially something about how he acts, or if he
- 8:41slips up somehow and it rubs the jury the wrong way,
- 8:44it could make or break the case. Not to mention,
- 8:46I mean, we're talking about life in prison here. The
- 8:48stakes couldn't be higher, exactly.
- 8:50Speaker 2: And beyond just the legal part of this, there's also
- 8:52the question of the truth, you know, and accountability. Did
- 8:56Richard Allen do this or is he innocent and caught
- 8:58up in something awful? Hopefully this trial will give us
- 9:02those answers.
- 9:03Speaker 1: Answers that everyone, especially Abby and Livy's families, deserve. But
- 9:07even with a verdict, I mean, there's no changing what happened.
- 9:10Speaker 2: That's the heartbreaking part. But maybe the trial, the fact
- 9:13that they're pursuing justice, can offer some solace, some kind
- 9:16of closure in all of this.
- 9:18Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking, you know, thinking about what their families are
- 9:21going through and the media coverage, I mean it's everywhere.
- 9:25How are they handling all that?
- 9:27Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be tough. The judge actually puts
- 9:28some pretty strict rules in place about media access to
- 9:31the courtroom, like they're not allowed to report from inside,
- 9:34no electronics or anything. Wow.
- 9:36Speaker 1: That's kind of usual, isn't it.
- 9:37Speaker 2: It is, but I think it shows how sensitive this
- 9:40whole case is. You know. The judge also puts some
- 9:42limits on photos and videos outside the courthouse too. It
- 9:46sounds like they're trying to find that balance between keeping
- 9:48things transparent but also protecting the trial itself.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Yeah, which is I mean, it's got to be difficult,
- 9:54especially these days with social media and everyone having an
- 9:57opinion wanting to share it instantly. It's really easy to
- 10:00get caught up in the drama of a case like this,
- 10:02but we have to remember there are real people at
- 10:05the center of it all.
- 10:06Speaker 2: Exactly. This isn't you know, some TV show. This is
- 10:09real life, a real tragedy with very real consequences.
- 10:13Speaker 1: This deep dive, I mean, it's been informative, but man,
- 10:16it's heavy stuff before we wrap up. Is there anything
- 10:18else you think people should know about this case, or
- 10:21like anything they can do to, you know, follow along responsibly.
- 10:24Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is just like, approach this
- 10:27with empathy, you know, have respect for everyone involved. Try
- 10:31to avoid spreading rumors, especially online. Just stick to the facts,
- 10:35you know, stick to reliable news sources. Let this play
- 10:38out how it should.
- 10:39Speaker 1: That's really good advice. Well, this case, it's definitely not over.
- 10:43I'm sure there will be more twists and turns to come.
- 10:45We'll be keeping a close eye on it and we'll
- 10:47be back to dive into more of the details as
- 10:48they unfold. Until then, deep divers stay curious, stay informed,
- 10:53but most importantly, stay safe.