Latest / Clydesdale Media Podcast / Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - What Can Be Tweaked for 2026
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- 0:04What a weekend for live sports.
- 0:08If we could just make that happen in
- 0:10San Jose.
- 0:42what is going on everybody welcome to
- 0:45sunday sunday sunday night crossfit talk
- 0:49we are here live after a weekend of
- 0:53unbelievable football games it started
- 0:56thursday night in college with miami and
- 0:59old miss and the only game that wasn't
- 1:02close was indiana and oregon everything
- 1:06else this weekend has come down to the
- 1:08last two minutes of the game my heart
- 1:11can't take anymore
- 1:12Yeah, it's crazy.
- 1:16So, Carolyn sporting the Niners shirt,
- 1:19the Christian McCaffrey jersey,
- 1:22and that game just ended with the Niners
- 1:25on a defensive hold,
- 1:27which just like the Bears had to do
- 1:29a defensive hold last night,
- 1:31that is the last team I want on
- 1:33the field to close out the game.
- 1:36The Bears defense or the Niners defense
- 1:38are both not good.
- 1:39Their offenses are really good.
- 1:41And the fact that they had to put
- 1:43their lesser of the three teams out there
- 1:47to do that,
- 1:49my heart was beaten out of my chest
- 1:51last night.
- 1:55Julian Iford says, congratulations.
- 1:59The Bears are awesome.
- 2:04I did not sleep last night.
- 2:07You're too ramped up or what?
- 2:08The game didn't end until what?
- 2:10Eleven thirty Eastern time.
- 2:13And then I watched the prime post game.
- 2:17Then I have my little podcast crew in
- 2:20Chicago that does a post game for every
- 2:23every game.
- 2:24So I tune over to them.
- 2:25They're doing shots on the set because
- 2:28they cannot believe that the Bears won.
- 2:31And they won a playoff game.
- 2:33Two thousand and ten.
- 2:36It was the two thousand ten season.
- 2:38It actually happened in two thousand
- 2:39eleven.
- 2:42But yeah, long time ago.
- 2:46And yeah,
- 2:48so I was up until two to thirty
- 2:50in the morning watching all the stuff.
- 2:54And then and then I got up early
- 2:56to watch the pregame stuff to see what
- 2:58they said about the game last night.
- 3:00And then I fell asleep for a couple
- 3:01hours on the couch today.
- 3:04Jeez, oh, Pete.
- 3:09You don't need that in your life right
- 3:10now.
- 3:11Bang, bang, not the gang.
- 3:14I don't know.
- 3:15We're the gang.
- 3:16Same gang.
- 3:16The gang's all here.
- 3:21Drew went to bed crying.
- 3:25I don't know who he roots for.
- 3:26Yeah, who is he rooting for?
- 3:27Sad tears.
- 3:32Mark Phillips,
- 3:32that final drive was butt clenching for
- 3:35sure.
- 3:38Valenz, glad the Packers are out.
- 3:42Yeah.
- 3:43I guess Drew was a Packers fan.
- 3:45I'm so sad.
- 3:49What a game.
- 3:50What a game.
- 3:51Anyway, they all were good.
- 3:53Even the Carolina Panthers,
- 3:54who don't even have a winning record,
- 3:56took the Rams to the last two minutes.
- 3:59Yeah.
- 3:59Like online,
- 4:00at first they were getting like,
- 4:03Beat up.
- 4:04And then they were like,
- 4:05why are they inviting teams that are under
- 4:07five hundred in the playoffs?
- 4:09This is dumb.
- 4:10And then they just kept chipping away.
- 4:13And all of a sudden it was like
- 4:14such a closed game.
- 4:15And yeah, all of them.
- 4:17So it's been good.
- 4:18They won their division.
- 4:19Yeah.
- 4:19If you win your division,
- 4:20you've got to get in.
- 4:21Right.
- 4:22Because that's the majority of the games
- 4:24you play.
- 4:25And so if you beat up that,
- 4:27I don't know.
- 4:29CrossFit says Niners without Kittle cook
- 4:33next round.
- 4:34That looked bad.
- 4:36I saw Hiller just put out a members
- 4:37only video about the rise in Achilles
- 4:41injuries.
- 4:42Oh.
- 4:43In like all sports.
- 4:44So I'm curious what he has.
- 4:45I haven't watched it.
- 4:46It literally popped up like two minutes
- 4:48before we went on air.
- 4:50So I'm curious what he has to say.
- 4:52Cause I've wondered that like when I was
- 4:54a kid,
- 4:54nobody popped their Achilles and now it's
- 4:57like everywhere in all sports.
- 4:59Do you think it's, well, I don't know,
- 5:03maybe the, the turf, the,
- 5:06then it's in basketball, a lot,
- 5:07the volume of reps that people are getting
- 5:10versus before as like training has gone
- 5:13better.
- 5:13They're, they're, I don't know.
- 5:16And they're able to take on more volume
- 5:18maybe than before.
- 5:19playing all year round specializing in
- 5:21their sports I don't know but there was
- 5:26there's a lot of Achilles injuries it's
- 5:28crazy do you want to know what my
- 5:30true thought is yes I think it's steroids
- 5:34I think it's performance enhancing drugs
- 5:36that are making the muscles too big for
- 5:38the tendons
- 5:42I think you're growing,
- 5:43the tendons don't grow with performance
- 5:45enhancing drugs and the ligaments don't
- 5:47grow.
- 5:48And then you're growing the muscles and
- 5:50they get supported by the ligaments and
- 5:54tendons.
- 5:56I'm very curious if Hiller goes in that
- 5:58route.
- 6:01Yeah, I don't.
- 6:03That has been my thought as this is
- 6:04going on, and I've been waiting for, like,
- 6:08an ESPN.
- 6:10Yeah.
- 6:10Or one of those, like, exposés.
- 6:14But they'll never say that it's that
- 6:17because all of these players are supposed
- 6:18to be.
- 6:19Exactly.
- 6:20Yeah.
- 6:21But it's a big deal when someone tests
- 6:24positive in CrossFit, right?
- 6:26But if you test positive in football,
- 6:29I don't even know if people can name
- 6:30who tested positive this year.
- 6:32Because you sit out four games,
- 6:33you come back,
- 6:34and nobody even thinks twice about it.
- 6:36Yeah.
- 6:42I have thought that for probably a decade
- 6:46that with the rise in performance
- 6:47enhancing drugs,
- 6:49you saw a rise in more soft tissue
- 6:52injuries and more like Achilles injuries.
- 7:01I don't know.
- 7:01I mean, yeah,
- 7:02that's an interesting theory.
- 7:03I don't like.
- 7:04I wouldn't know how prevalent,
- 7:06like how prevalent were steroids use in
- 7:08like eighties, nineties.
- 7:09I mean,
- 7:10I would think like with the rise of
- 7:11like Arnold baseball, it was huge.
- 7:13Right.
- 7:14So like why it's.
- 7:16But look at the baseball injuries,
- 7:18the UCLs, the, you know, you're,
- 7:21everybody's getting the Tommy John
- 7:22surgery.
- 7:23Like almost every pitcher now gets the
- 7:25Tommy John surgery,
- 7:27the knee ligaments that go out now.
- 7:30The steroids they were using in the
- 7:31seventies and stuff like that just made
- 7:34you like strong, but slow.
- 7:36Right.
- 7:37It's only been in recent years that like
- 7:40they've fine tuned them to do more than
- 7:42just build muscle to be strong.
- 7:46Now it can make you faster.
- 7:48It can make like,
- 7:50and the training is different.
- 7:51Now the, the,
- 7:52the science behind training has gone up.
- 7:56So you add all that into your,
- 7:59into account i think it just really puts
- 8:01some wear and tear on those ligaments and
- 8:03tendons and they because they're
- 8:06non-contact injuries that are happening
- 8:08now right if someone tears an acl in
- 8:10the nfl they're just running down the
- 8:12field and boop yeah i yeah i agree
- 8:21kids start earlier put more
- 8:25mileage on their bodies.
- 8:27Um,
- 8:27but in a way that almost thinks makes
- 8:30me think that that would give them more
- 8:33training volume and like tendons would
- 8:35catch up to that growth.
- 8:36So that kind of contradicts that for me.
- 8:39So I don't know.
- 8:40How do you,
- 8:41how do you work a tendon?
- 8:43Well,
- 8:43if you don't build the muscle too quickly,
- 8:46like if you were training since a little
- 8:47kid and grew that over time,
- 8:49you would think that you built that up
- 8:53properly.
- 8:55over time so I don't know to me
- 8:57it's yeah I think I think that I
- 9:02think it's more than just one thing
- 9:04Right.
- 9:05There's people in here saying there's a
- 9:06theory that the Niners practice near an
- 9:08electrical plant or electrical grid,
- 9:11and that is leading to the injuries.
- 9:14I think that all of these parents that
- 9:16make their kids do travel teams at five,
- 9:19six, seven, eight is too much.
- 9:22They should be having fun and playing
- 9:23multiple sports,
- 9:24not focusing on one thing at such a
- 9:27young age.
- 9:29I think it's all of those things combined.
- 9:31But I do think that the performance
- 9:34enhancing drugs is a major contributor.
- 9:38I can get on board with that.
- 9:44Ken Walters, there's a person close to me,
- 9:46my son,
- 9:47told me it's all over the AHL and
- 9:49NHL.
- 9:49If you want,
- 9:50you can get it right from.
- 9:53See,
- 9:53I don't feel like it's in hockey that
- 9:54much.
- 9:55I feel like hockey is such a skilled
- 9:56sport.
- 9:57Like,
- 9:57I don't know how much of an advantage
- 9:58that would be.
- 10:00It's not even that physical anymore
- 10:02compared to what it used to be.
- 10:04I don't see it in a hockey that
- 10:05much.
- 10:06I've watched too many sports to be too
- 10:08naive that if there's a sport where people
- 10:10are getting paid and it's competitive,
- 10:12they're going to look for an advantage.
- 10:14Yep.
- 10:16It's just going to happen.
- 10:18At what percentage?
- 10:19Where I would see it would be injuries
- 10:22and trying to come back faster from
- 10:25injuries.
- 10:27And right now what's the big thing is
- 10:30like the peptide stuff.
- 10:32Yeah.
- 10:33Like I could see that for like recovery
- 10:35purposes of athletes,
- 10:37but in hockey steroids, I don't know.
- 10:40I don't buy that.
- 10:42I don't think steroid.
- 10:43I think it's performance-enhancing drugs.
- 10:45And I think it starts with recovery.
- 10:47Someone gets injured.
- 10:48They want to get back on the ice
- 10:49faster.
- 10:50And then it's like the gateway drug into
- 10:54more, well, this worked.
- 10:56And now there's this, right?
- 10:58And now there's this.
- 11:00So I think it's, I don't,
- 11:03that's my opinion.
- 11:05And Carolyn,
- 11:05you're totally entitled to yours.
- 11:06You've actually lived that world more than
- 11:09I have, but I just, you know,
- 11:11I was a believer in Lance Armstrong and
- 11:13I got let down.
- 11:14And I was a believer in all these
- 11:16people in my life of watching sports and
- 11:19they all let me down.
- 11:21And so I just go into it now
- 11:22where
- 11:23It's everywhere.
- 11:24And just face the facts.
- 11:26You can't trust that anybody is not using
- 11:28it.
- 11:29And so I just assume they are and
- 11:33hope that they're not.
- 11:33Yeah.
- 11:37Liver King.
- 11:42Ken Walters, Carolyn,
- 11:43he's been in eight different locker rooms
- 11:45and has friends on every team then and
- 11:46now.
- 11:48I mean, me too.
- 11:48Like I,
- 11:49I'm not in the men's locker room.
- 11:50I haven't been, but like the,
- 11:51like I have a lot of friends that
- 11:52played play and played in the NHL and
- 11:55then on the woman's side as well.
- 11:56Like, I don't know.
- 11:58It was never, never really.
- 12:03The male ego says if some is good,
- 12:04more is better.
- 12:06Also true.
- 12:08I don't have this on the rundown,
- 12:09but since we jumped into this and we
- 12:10didn't plan on it,
- 12:13if you watched Hiller's Hot Takes this
- 12:15week,
- 12:15one of them was about that more female
- 12:19athletes are using performance enhancing
- 12:21drugs because it only takes one use and
- 12:24then it doesn't go away.
- 12:26So women are learning that they just have
- 12:28to use it one time and then get
- 12:31off of it and then they can pass
- 12:32every test forever and it never goes away.
- 12:37I believe that wholeheartedly.
- 12:43I think if when you learn that if
- 12:45you can get away with it for one
- 12:47cycle and the benefits will be forever.
- 12:54I think it's as prevalent with the males
- 12:56though.
- 12:59Yeah,
- 12:59but the men might not notice the
- 13:00difference as much,
- 13:01but I don't know that I would say
- 13:03that it'd be more on the woman's side.
- 13:05Well,
- 13:05what he's saying is that the chemistry in
- 13:07a, in a male body,
- 13:10because they use the testosterone more,
- 13:12you have to keep giving it to them,
- 13:15right?
- 13:15They have to keep taking it and keep
- 13:16taking it where a woman takes one time,
- 13:20one cycle,
- 13:21and it stays in their system for as
- 13:23long as their competitive career is there.
- 13:26I would argue probably more men have been
- 13:29on it in the past.
- 13:30And now the women are like kept equal.
- 13:34It also is maybe what he's like.
- 13:36They've realized that then.
- 13:38Well,
- 13:38and I guess maybe that means it's less
- 13:40because at any given time,
- 13:41there's way fewer women taking it because
- 13:43once they've taken it once.
- 13:46They're not taking it again.
- 13:47Right.
- 13:47So at any given time,
- 13:48there's probably way fewer women taking
- 13:50it.
- 13:50Doesn't mean that eighty percent of the
- 13:52women in the sport haven't taken it at
- 13:54some in the last ten years.
- 13:56Now,
- 13:56I've seen women in the sport that they've
- 13:58done way more than one cycle.
- 14:02So smart about it.
- 14:06Right.
- 14:07Very much.
- 14:08But there are definitely people I've seen
- 14:10at competitions and in person that I damn
- 14:14well know there's more than one cycle that
- 14:15have gone through that body.
- 14:20Yeah.
- 14:23But anyway, Oh boy.
- 14:29All right.
- 14:30Um,
- 14:31So that's that.
- 14:32We had fun football weekend.
- 14:35I got tons of texts from everybody.
- 14:37Thank you so much for sending out the
- 14:40congratulations for my Bears.
- 14:42It really did mean a lot that we've
- 14:44created this little community that people
- 14:46know I'm a Bears fan.
- 14:48People are sending me well wishes and
- 14:50stuff.
- 14:52So there it is.
- 14:55Did you see the MSU Ohio State hockey
- 14:58this weekend?
- 15:00I was fall football all the time.
- 15:02Yeah.
- 15:04MSU one Friday and then Ohio state one
- 15:08yesterday.
- 15:09So they split.
- 15:12Um,
- 15:13I see someone added something to the
- 15:14agenda here.
- 15:15Uh, the pit season two started this week.
- 15:18Did it?
- 15:20Is that, was that you?
- 15:24Was it Lex?
- 15:25Maybe Lex.
- 15:26She also messaged me earlier about Mode
- 15:29Classic as well.
- 15:30Oh, yeah.
- 15:31Yeah.
- 15:35Maybe it was Lex.
- 15:36I watched Pitt season two today.
- 15:38Did you?
- 15:40I had the Niners-Eagles games on one TV
- 15:43and Pitt on the other.
- 15:47Gosh, it started off with a bang.
- 15:51Right.
- 15:52Yeah.
- 15:53I mean, it left on a bang.
- 15:54I can't even imagine.
- 15:56Well, if you remember last season,
- 15:57like the ending actually calmed down.
- 15:59Like they were done with the big shooting
- 16:04and getting through all that.
- 16:06And they were all kind of in the
- 16:06park just decompressing.
- 16:08That's kind of how it ended.
- 16:10And this one, it's the Fourth of July,
- 16:14seven a.m.
- 16:14They're reporting for work.
- 16:17And some of the doctors have moved up
- 16:20a step in the
- 16:23So it's like five or six months later.
- 16:25Okay.
- 16:26And it already is off and rolling.
- 16:31I'll have to watch it when we get
- 16:33off this.
- 16:33I got to catch up.
- 16:35It's only one episode right now.
- 16:36Okay.
- 16:38But it's just like the last time.
- 16:40Each episode is one hour of the day.
- 16:43And away they went.
- 16:50Bob Ross, yes, we can hear you.
- 16:53From the great beyond with your happy
- 16:54little trees.
- 17:02Okay.
- 17:05Carol,
- 17:05did you get in a tilly in your
- 17:07hockey days?
- 17:09Do you know what that means?
- 17:10Not a clue.
- 17:11What would be your guess?
- 17:14A fight?
- 17:16Yeah.
- 17:16I fought.
- 17:17So I used to play boys hockey up
- 17:18until fourteen.
- 17:20I fought once before.
- 17:22on the boy's side, on the boy's side,
- 17:24not on the girl's side.
- 17:25And I won pretty easily.
- 17:26I had to throw that humble brag in.
- 17:31Well, the ref,
- 17:34the ref like winked at me when I
- 17:35was in the box.
- 17:36Like he was like happy for me.
- 17:40So is it like in young blood,
- 17:41they teach you like to grab the Jersey,
- 17:44pull it over the head to tie them
- 17:45up and boom, boom, boom.
- 17:47Or did you just start swinging?
- 17:50Well,
- 17:51the guy was trying to provoke me to
- 17:52get because the playoffs were coming up.
- 17:54And at that point,
- 17:56like I was the top player on the
- 17:57team.
- 17:57I was like that I was on and
- 17:59they're trying to get me kicked out.
- 18:00So I had to defend myself.
- 18:02I didn't start it.
- 18:04But I just started just punching him super
- 18:06fast.
- 18:06And then he fell and I just continued.
- 18:08This is what I love about Carolyn.
- 18:12I was training boxing.
- 18:13I was doing Taekwondo at the time,
- 18:15but I never fought in boxing,
- 18:17but I trained boxing just to stay in
- 18:19shape.
- 18:21So it was so slow to me.
- 18:24I understand all that.
- 18:25I understand that.
- 18:26But this is what I love about your
- 18:27stories.
- 18:28Well,
- 18:28they were trying to get me kicked out
- 18:29because I was the best player on the
- 18:30team.
- 18:30it's a hundred percent boys team.
- 18:33Like she is letting it know that I
- 18:35was the shit back in the day.
- 18:37I mean, I was like, Oh,
- 18:37I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:38I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:39I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:41I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:42I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:43I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:44I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:45I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:45I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:46I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:47I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:48I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:49I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:49I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:50I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
- 18:51I was like, Oh, I was like,
- 18:51Oh
- 18:52like back to the woman's game,
- 18:54unless sometimes certain positions can
- 18:56stay longer,
- 18:57like if you're a goalie and stuff like
- 18:59that.
- 18:59But, yeah,
- 19:00we just developed faster at first.
- 19:02Yeah.
- 19:04So I was able to hang for some
- 19:07years.
- 19:08Yeah.
- 19:10Bob Ross.
- 19:11It was fun.
- 19:11It was a fun fight.
- 19:17Fergie says,
- 19:19Carolyn has a perfectly straight nose,
- 19:20which tells me she won her tilly.
- 19:26Ken is you want to get their jersey
- 19:28up over their head to lock their arms
- 19:29down.
- 19:30That's why you will see the guys take
- 19:31their jerseys off before the fight as it's
- 19:34getting pulled up.
- 19:35Yeah.
- 19:35Yank on it.
- 19:39When I lived in Florida,
- 19:40Julie and I were season ticket holders to
- 19:42a minor league hockey team down there.
- 19:45And there are way more fights in minor
- 19:48league hockey than there are in like the
- 19:49NHL.
- 19:50Did you see – it's been all over
- 19:52the internet.
- 19:53These young little kids.
- 19:55I don't know if it was like –
- 19:56you know,
- 19:57it looked like it was between the periods.
- 20:00You know how they have like little teams
- 20:01playing?
- 20:02It looked like one of those little kids.
- 20:06And everyone is out fighting,
- 20:07and there was no adults at all,
- 20:09no referees.
- 20:10This goalie comes from the other side and
- 20:13just skates as hard as he can and
- 20:15just nails a little kid.
- 20:16And it was like all over,
- 20:18and I was like,
- 20:18this is –
- 20:20stupid.
- 20:23Yeah,
- 20:26it was like all over today and yet
- 20:27or yesterday, like Instagram.
- 20:30But the only thing about Instagram now
- 20:33that I hate is you can't tell if
- 20:34it's real or AI.
- 20:37agree there's an ai version of um ben
- 20:41johnson's handshake with matt lafleur and
- 20:44now it was a blow by handshake he
- 20:46they do not like each other it was
- 20:48quick but there's an there's an ai version
- 20:50where he stops and does like a karate
- 20:53kick to matt lafleur's face but i i
- 20:59wish that there was a rule that if
- 21:01ai is used like there has to be
- 21:03something that's written that it's ai
- 21:05You're supposed to.
- 21:06If you post something on Instagram and
- 21:10it's AI, you're supposed to say it.
- 21:12Just like YouTube.
- 21:13We're doing this now.
- 21:15I get asked every time I post a
- 21:16video, is there AI included?
- 21:22I swear they've taken regular clips and
- 21:25added the Sora image just to make people
- 21:29think it is AI when it wasn't.
- 21:32Yeah, Sora watermarks it.
- 21:34But I'm telling you,
- 21:35I think they're taking actual videos and
- 21:36adding the watermark.
- 21:39Just so that, like,
- 21:40you can't trust anything.
- 21:45Well,
- 21:45I wanted to get this next thing set
- 21:47up,
- 21:49but I didn't have time because I was
- 21:51scrambling to get a thumbnail done.
- 21:53And hopefully it's still on my story.
- 21:56But I had reposted something that Carolyn
- 22:00posted.
- 22:03and it's gone of course uh you were
- 22:06being an athlete again doing these
- 22:09one-legged hops for for i don't know how
- 22:14what was the distance you were doing them
- 22:16was there a goal with each one of
- 22:17the one-legged hops and why do you mix
- 22:20that into your crossfit training is it for
- 22:22variety or enjoyment or what
- 22:25Normally every Saturday I try to do like
- 22:29in my accessory plyometric stuff.
- 22:31So like I'll have something written and
- 22:34then sometimes I just go off course.
- 22:36And if I'm like in the zone of
- 22:38doing, working on something,
- 22:40I'll just start.
- 22:42adding other things to it or changing it
- 22:44up um but it's just so i at
- 22:46least keep up weekly some sort of jumping
- 22:51or lateral work of anything really um yeah
- 22:56i like i like that type of training
- 23:01I did a piece this week on launch
- 23:02that I think athletic movements are
- 23:05missing from CrossFit.
- 23:06And I think we used to have those
- 23:09and people can make fun of the softball
- 23:10throw and the broad jump and all those
- 23:12things,
- 23:12but it brought some form of athleticism to
- 23:16the CrossFit games back in the early days.
- 23:19And I think we've gone,
- 23:21and especially with it being outside,
- 23:22it added more athleticism.
- 23:24There were more sprints.
- 23:25There were, even when you had the zigzag,
- 23:28the zigzag sprints, right?
- 23:31We've gotten rid of all of that.
- 23:32And the more it moves inside,
- 23:35the more we lose all of that aspect
- 23:37of it all.
- 23:38Yeah,
- 23:38because we test running at the games,
- 23:42mid-distance, long-distance.
- 23:44And we assume that a lot of these
- 23:46athletes that are bad runners are horrible
- 23:49runners.
- 23:49But if you actually tested a sprint event,
- 23:52we'd be saying a lot of bad sprinters
- 23:54out there.
- 23:54It's the same thing.
- 23:56I'm not a bad runner.
- 23:58I'm just a good sprinter,
- 23:59which makes me not good for endurance.
- 24:03But we just never test it.
- 24:05Like a pure sprint.
- 24:07Yeah.
- 24:08We haven't rode a real bike since we
- 24:09left Madison either.
- 24:12Yeah.
- 24:15Hunting cardio bunnies.
- 24:16Larry says rumor rich might help program
- 24:19the open.
- 24:20So great.
- 24:20Please happen.
- 24:21Not same as last couple of years, please.
- 24:23And thank you for the four ninety nine.
- 24:28Larry, we appreciate that.
- 24:29Yeah, I don't know.
- 24:35i'm okay with other people programming the
- 24:37open as long as they are true to
- 24:41what crossfit is yeah it's just got to
- 24:49be the right tests to it's got to
- 24:52be community inclusive i i think and i
- 24:54get that people are like oh it's it's
- 24:56too easy it filters down properly it moves
- 25:00along
- 25:01to the next stage.
- 25:03Um, I, I would,
- 25:05I would like to think rich wouldn't put
- 25:07a lift in.
- 25:07So, I mean,
- 25:08that gives me some peace of mind there.
- 25:13Yeah.
- 25:13I, I would hope so too.
- 25:17I, I think in a three week open,
- 25:19you just cannot do a lift.
- 25:21Right.
- 25:21Um, but what I,
- 25:23what I miss is what I miss is
- 25:26like,
- 25:28you earning your way into like a higher
- 25:31skill movement.
- 25:33I wouldn't be surprised if we see one
- 25:34of those regard,
- 25:36like regardless if it's Dave or may have
- 25:38the right muscle up at the end or
- 25:39the heavy lift progression with the
- 25:42certain gymnastics or metabolic piece to
- 25:45at least,
- 25:46or the time gated workouts three minutes.
- 25:48Yeah.
- 25:49Yeah.
- 25:53I just, I, I, I miss that.
- 25:56Cause even like my,
- 25:57I think my first ever open,
- 26:00there were muscle ups at the end.
- 26:03It was like thirteen, thirteen, four,
- 26:07thirteen,
- 26:07where it started off with Karen and then
- 26:09you had the ninety double unders and then,
- 26:13and then muscle ups.
- 26:15That was the one that Kristen Clever did
- 26:17with
- 26:19feel like the the demo of that one
- 26:21was or the face off of that one
- 26:23was clever and someone else yeah i um
- 26:30i just missed those where you could you
- 26:32got to earn your way to those stages
- 26:34right or yeah no i agree those are
- 26:38good
- 26:41I feel like they've done a pretty good
- 26:43job of workouts like that.
- 26:44There's been lots of workouts over the
- 26:45last few years that have gone progressive
- 26:47gymnastics.
- 26:48We've gone from toe-to-bar to chest-to-bar
- 26:50to bar muscle-up.
- 26:52We haven't seen the time-gated workouts.
- 26:57Last year's Open had the... Yes.
- 27:05I think they've had some pretty good
- 27:06workouts like that.
- 27:10I think it was Fouché that did that.
- 27:12Yeah, it might have been.
- 27:16He also says,
- 27:17nothing feels like accomplishment in the
- 27:19recent Open.
- 27:21And I do think like the first couple
- 27:25workouts of the Open should be very open
- 27:28to the community.
- 27:30And I'm okay with like even the beginning
- 27:32of the third one being open to the
- 27:34community,
- 27:35but like a gateway to other things.
- 27:38Do you think we see four tests this
- 27:39year?
- 27:43A part two that's not necessarily a lift?
- 27:47I don't.
- 27:47I think they're looking at quarterfinals
- 27:49this week, four and five,
- 27:51combined into one thing.
- 27:56What I'd really like to see is what
- 27:57we talked about,
- 27:58where the Open carries over to
- 28:01quarterfinals,
- 28:01and then you have a seven-event test that
- 28:06gets you to semifinals.
- 28:09Because it's a more complete picture.
- 28:12But we've talked, I mean,
- 28:13we have hammered that horse to death for
- 28:17sure.
- 28:17And like,
- 28:17that's the thing about the WFP that I
- 28:19like that every test matters.
- 28:22It's just the way that it's programmed
- 28:23wasn't right.
- 28:24But the idea of all events working
- 28:28together for like a full leaderboard to me
- 28:30makes sense as like finding the fittest of
- 28:35the year versus the fittest of a weekend
- 28:37on those tests.
- 28:44Sorry, I was just looking down.
- 28:46Kyle Shanahan just confirmed that George
- 28:48Kittle did tear his Achilles.
- 28:50Yeah,
- 28:50they confirmed it like almost right away
- 28:53during the game.
- 28:53Achilles injury, but they didn't say torn.
- 28:56No, I read torn.
- 28:57Oh, wow.
- 28:58Yeah,
- 28:58this just came across from Adam Schefter.
- 29:02So...
- 29:09With so many semis already doing their
- 29:10qualifiers,
- 29:11the open and quarters doesn't mean much
- 29:13anymore.
- 29:14Glad you brought that up because we are
- 29:16going to now move into our first.
- 29:19Well,
- 29:19I did have one more before we do
- 29:20that.
- 29:22Jamie,
- 29:22you're one of my best friends in the
- 29:24world.
- 29:25I care about you deeply.
- 29:27And I know you've had this surgery.
- 29:30And I know that you have been restricted
- 29:34from certain things.
- 29:35Yet, I go to your YouTube channel.
- 29:39I go to your Instagram.
- 29:41And I see you doing things that...
- 29:43if i recall correctly were on that
- 29:45restricted list uh from your doctor six
- 29:49months ago so i just wanted to confirm
- 29:53am i seeing things are those like videos
- 29:56from two years ago how long has it
- 29:58been six months no it has not been
- 30:01six months no we're not even at four
- 30:05september was when you had it done right
- 30:07yeah september october november december
- 30:10january five
- 30:12October would be one month.
- 30:13November, December,
- 30:14we're not even at four.
- 30:17It's almost sixteen weeks.
- 30:22Yeah, Scott, you're just seeing things.
- 30:25Nicole's telling me to shush.
- 30:28No, I mean, I don't know what...
- 30:31I mean, like I told you,
- 30:32I've been doing double-unders and
- 30:34toe-to-bar and pull-ups.
- 30:36I've been doing pull-ups and push-ups
- 30:37since two weeks after the surgery.
- 30:40So other than I was box squatting.
- 30:44I am not questioning your upper body
- 30:45workouts.
- 30:47Well, what have you seen that I've done?
- 30:50Squats.
- 30:51I have.
- 30:52So I was doing box squats for the
- 30:54last like four weeks and two weeks ago
- 30:58I squatted one sixty and then last week
- 31:01I squatted one eighty.
- 31:03So that's as heavy as I've gotten.
- 31:05I overhead squatted forty five pounds.
- 31:07So that's.
- 31:09We're really we're really moving there.
- 31:12So I guess my question is,
- 31:15is there a piece of your head that
- 31:18is saying I'm going to be ready end
- 31:21of February for week one of the open?
- 31:25Well,
- 31:25if the week one of the open is
- 31:27what I think it might be, yes,
- 31:28I think I will be ready.
- 31:35So you're signing up.
- 31:36I'll sign up.
- 31:37I said, I would sign up.
- 31:38I like, I mean, if there's a lift,
- 31:39whatever I'm out and it's the same
- 31:41quarterfinals.
- 31:41Like if there's something that we have to
- 31:44snatch even.
- 31:45A hundred and twenty-five.
- 31:46There's just no way I'll be able to
- 31:47do it.
- 31:47I can't even fathom trying to do a
- 31:51squat snatch right now.
- 31:51Like I can't, that dynamic,
- 31:53there's no way I could sit down into
- 31:55a quickly, um,
- 31:58very slowly can i squat with some weight
- 32:01yeah some not not a ton uh but
- 32:05we're january like semi-finals are may i'm
- 32:12just asking i'm just asking as a friend
- 32:14is there a piece of your head or
- 32:16a piece of your mind thinking i've got
- 32:19some time to still recover and there may
- 32:22be just maybe
- 32:25I mean, I'll just, like I said,
- 32:27we'll just go.
- 32:28And if workouts come in my favor of
- 32:30things that I've been working on, cool.
- 32:33If, if not, then I,
- 32:35then it is what it is.
- 32:36And I just keep building and I'm out
- 32:39sooner.
- 32:39That's fine.
- 32:40I don't, I,
- 32:41I think there's certain things I can do.
- 32:42Like I toes about her feeling just about
- 32:45fine.
- 32:46Um, maybe not in like,
- 32:48I don't think I could go do.
- 32:50Right now,
- 32:51but I can certainly do sets of twenty
- 32:54five.
- 32:55Fairly reasonable.
- 32:56Like we did eighteen point one on Friday,
- 32:58the twenty minute AMRAP of.
- 33:00That's eight total bar, five per side,
- 33:03dumbbell clean and jerk in the row.
- 33:05That was fine.
- 33:06But eight total bars, nothing.
- 33:09Sure.
- 33:10Yeah, I'll sign up for the open.
- 33:11I was never not going to sign up
- 33:12for the open.
- 33:14That's a support.
- 33:15Yes, that's something I'm going to do.
- 33:18I'll probably sign up for quarters and
- 33:20we'll see.
- 33:23So you are going to finish top twenty
- 33:25five percent in the open because you are
- 33:28very confident you're signing up for open
- 33:30or for quarters.
- 33:32And I'm cool with that.
- 33:34I think you would make quarters.
- 33:37For sure.
- 33:38Yeah, I again,
- 33:41even at like not one hundred percent,
- 33:43I feel like you would make it.
- 33:45I would like to think so.
- 33:46Other barring like barring a lift in the
- 33:49open and me just like not really being
- 33:51able to
- 33:52A lift could change a lot of the
- 33:54leaderboard in the open if there's three
- 33:55events.
- 33:57That would skew it way too much.
- 34:00I need to address this.
- 34:03Tony says,
- 34:04what are your thoughts about CrossFit
- 34:05athlete that does full-time versus those
- 34:08who have full-time jobs and train
- 34:10afterwards?
- 34:10Is it an advantage?
- 34:12Andrew comes and says,
- 34:13I don't think there are any elite
- 34:15individual CrossFit athletes that have a
- 34:17full-time job anymore.
- 34:18There are.
- 34:20The person on this
- 34:23She was a CrossFit games athlete in twenty
- 34:24twenty five.
- 34:25She's a full time teacher.
- 34:27There she is.
- 34:29And Emily Rolfe is a full time
- 34:33radiologist,
- 34:34whatever they call that up in Canada.
- 34:37And she's been a games athlete for several
- 34:39years.
- 34:41Yeah,
- 34:41I think she like reads all the scans
- 34:43or not reads them,
- 34:45puts the people in the scans, I think.
- 34:47Yeah.
- 34:50so and i think it all depends on
- 34:53the athlete
- 34:55And what fits better for them?
- 34:57There's some athletes that don't want to
- 35:00spend all day in the gym.
- 35:01They have their mission.
- 35:03And I think if you ask Carolyn this,
- 35:05she likes to go in,
- 35:06get her stuff done, no wasted time.
- 35:09Except for the weekends.
- 35:10The weekends,
- 35:11I am so slow to get everything done
- 35:13because all of a sudden I'm not working
- 35:15and I'm at the gym way too long
- 35:17socializing and doing nothing for...
- 35:21Two to two hours doing nothing.
- 35:24And I'm like, that's what in my mind,
- 35:25I'm like,
- 35:26that's what the full time athletes do is
- 35:28they say that they're at the gym for
- 35:29eight hours,
- 35:30but they're not training for eight hours.
- 35:32There's no way they're just eating,
- 35:35doing their social media,
- 35:37talking and training here and there.
- 35:41Didn't Christy Aramo coach while she was
- 35:43competing?
- 35:44She did.
- 35:44She owned and ran her gym,
- 35:47but she had a very good support team.
- 35:49And when it got close to the games,
- 35:51her coaching hours definitely decreased.
- 35:56I'd say there's quite a few of those
- 35:58kinds of people still around.
- 36:00Colton has three jobs, farm pigs,
- 36:02breeds wieners, and makes soap.
- 36:06Man of many talents.
- 36:08Yeah,
- 36:08I think there's a few people at the
- 36:10games that definitely have jobs or, like,
- 36:13they're coaching, like,
- 36:17at their affiliate at least for some hours
- 36:19in the week.
- 36:20Maybe not, like, full time,
- 36:21but has something to do.
- 36:23I think it just makes you more focused
- 36:25in your training to get it done in
- 36:27a certain amount of time versus, like,
- 36:30more wasted time.
- 36:33Tony says,
- 36:33I just watched the CrossFit Games,
- 36:36and it was so amazing watching them do
- 36:37the run and heavy bags up the Capitol
- 36:39steps.
- 36:40Just awesome.
- 36:41Well, thank you.
- 36:42That was an awesome event.
- 36:44That's my favorite event I've ever done,
- 36:46I think.
- 36:47And I want to say welcome to the
- 36:49community, Tony,
- 36:49because that's just the tip of the
- 36:51iceberg.
- 36:52As you dive in more,
- 36:53we love having you in the chat.
- 36:55We love having you as part of the
- 36:56community.
- 36:57Thank you for joining in and checking all
- 36:58that stuff out.
- 37:00We are all CrossFit geeks, just like that.
- 37:07Um,
- 37:07Lydia fish was also mentioned that she's
- 37:09waitressing that I know they're trying to
- 37:10talk her out of that.
- 37:11Um, but,
- 37:13but I am a firm believer after talking
- 37:14to Carolyn all these years that some
- 37:16people don't,
- 37:17it's not good for them to have that
- 37:19much time on their hands.
- 37:20I think Lydia said that in her little
- 37:22documentary.
- 37:25I even remember like Emma Lawson at one
- 37:27point saying once she was done high school
- 37:30and transitioned to a full-time athlete,
- 37:32that it was hard for her to just
- 37:34not be like on a certain.
- 37:36you know,
- 37:37routine and schedule where you can just,
- 37:41you know,
- 37:41waste so much time at the gym,
- 37:42Pat Delner.
- 37:43I mean, he's,
- 37:44he was doing chiropractor work like during
- 37:49game season, all the time.
- 37:49I think the last two years he's done
- 37:51less of it, but during the off season,
- 37:53he definitely goes back and does his
- 37:55chiropractor stuff.
- 37:56So when Brent was famously was an
- 37:59accountant for Matt, much of his career,
- 38:03but he did leave that.
- 38:05So,
- 38:07Anyway, let's get into the pencil, pen,
- 38:12and Sharpie.
- 38:13I did get those loaded in.
- 38:15So the way it's going to work this
- 38:16week is this is actually going to start
- 38:18a topic.
- 38:19We are going to hit the pen, pencil,
- 38:21or Sharpie.
- 38:22And then we have a couple of talking
- 38:23points with that.
- 38:24So the first one for this week.
- 38:27Is pencil, pen, or Sharpie,
- 38:29should the Open be the beginning of the
- 38:31CrossFit Games season,
- 38:33or is it okay that qualifiers are?
- 38:36So the pencil, pen, or Sharpie part is,
- 38:38should it be the CrossFit Games Open that
- 38:41opens the season?
- 38:43Sharpie.
- 38:44Sharpie.
- 38:48Sharpie, Sharpie.
- 38:50We got a pen.
- 38:53Yes, the open should be.
- 38:54That's not a pencil, pen, or Sharpie,
- 38:55Tristan.
- 38:57Sharpie for Andrew.
- 38:59Sharpie AF from Tristan.
- 39:01Finally, he jumps on board, right?
- 39:04Sharpie from Terry.
- 39:08Bold Sharpie from Eric Mackey.
- 39:11Pen from Clock Cutter.
- 39:13And I'll let you guys talk first.
- 39:15So why should it be the open to
- 39:18the CrossFit game season?
- 39:19People are just starting to get – it
- 39:21was Christmas time for a lot of people
- 39:23that celebrate that.
- 39:25They took time with their family,
- 39:26took time off of training or maybe weren't
- 39:29training as much.
- 39:30In January,
- 39:31a lot of times when people start getting
- 39:32back in the routine,
- 39:34within a few days you already have
- 39:35qualifiers.
- 39:35You're supposed to be in somewhat shape to
- 39:37qualify.
- 39:38Then it seems like so far away to
- 39:41the semifinal.
- 39:43Last year –
- 39:44or in the past years even,
- 39:46NorCal was January qualifier,
- 39:48and I think the comp wasn't until
- 39:49September.
- 39:50There's so much that can happen even
- 39:51between those months of training.
- 39:55I just think the Open starts the season,
- 39:58and people can begin there.
- 40:03From there, they can go off.
- 40:06I said it to you guys after the
- 40:07show.
- 40:09last week i think um i think the
- 40:11like people like uh qualifiers like norcal
- 40:14or um what other one is going on
- 40:17right now lat am whatever like i think
- 40:21they should just use the open leaderboard
- 40:24and then if they need to make that
- 40:25money you sign up also for norcal
- 40:29And Latin, whatever other one they have.
- 40:33And you pay your twenty five or whatever
- 40:35it is.
- 40:36So they can still get their money,
- 40:37but we don't have to do all these
- 40:38qualifiers on top of doing the open soon.
- 40:40And you just save the athletes a little
- 40:44bit from doing multiple qualifiers.
- 40:46And then they could review the videos
- 40:48there.
- 40:50I get it would be two different
- 40:51leaderboards because if they penalize on
- 40:53their leaderboard versus the open doesn't
- 40:55look at any videos, but top five.
- 40:59But still,
- 40:59I just think use those workouts,
- 41:02create your own leaderboard.
- 41:03If you want to sign up,
- 41:04if NorCal is the competition you want to
- 41:05go to,
- 41:06you just post your score in two
- 41:08leaderboards, Open and NorCal.
- 41:10Because they did it like that during the
- 41:12sanctional season a few years ago.
- 41:15A few of the sanctionals did it that
- 41:17way.
- 41:18And I thought that that was cool that
- 41:20you didn't have to redo the same workouts
- 41:22or like different workouts.
- 41:26Yeah.
- 41:26Which some, someone says here,
- 41:29they're getting other people who may not
- 41:32be doing this.
- 41:33I know this is another question of Scott,
- 41:34so it's going to kind of tie into
- 41:35it,
- 41:36but they're getting people who maybe
- 41:37wouldn't be in the open to sign up
- 41:39for their qualifier.
- 41:42I want to address some comments.
- 41:43I'm going to fall behind if I don't.
- 41:44Okay.
- 41:45And Penn,
- 41:46I don't know if this matters that much
- 41:47to me, but I see why people care.
- 41:50Engraved in stone.
- 41:52College football got weird with week zero.
- 41:54Yeah.
- 41:56Um,
- 41:56the fact that we are doing calls right
- 41:58now for a comp in the summer before
- 42:00TFX has happened before open registration
- 42:02is even open is just bananas to me.
- 42:05Uh, Vicki says pencil.
- 42:08I think it should too,
- 42:09but it's only the only way qualifiers can
- 42:11do it.
- 42:13Um, see,
- 42:13I don't think it's the only way.
- 42:14Yeah.
- 42:15I think they could use the open.
- 42:17They could.
- 42:19To be clear,
- 42:19what Carolyn's saying is like,
- 42:20if I know I want to sign up
- 42:22for Dalmar, LATAM, and NorCal,
- 42:25I would pay my twenty dollar open
- 42:26registration and three more.
- 42:29All ten of them or twelve of them
- 42:31would be listed and I'd click open one,
- 42:33two, three,
- 42:34and I would submit eighty dollars.
- 42:36And three of them would go to those
- 42:38respective.
- 42:39And if
- 42:40two,
- 42:40three hundred people did that in each of
- 42:42the, you know, that wanted to do that,
- 42:43that would have been signing up for that
- 42:44qualifier anyway.
- 42:46That'd be their own.
- 42:48You're still going to get that sign up
- 42:50and they don't have to do it.
- 42:52They don't have to do four extra workouts
- 42:54on the side right now.
- 42:55Like when we're trying, it's crazy.
- 42:57It's, it's too many workouts,
- 42:59online qualifier workouts for athletes to
- 43:01be doing.
- 43:02If they want to do maybe like other
- 43:05divisions, like intermediate or, um,
- 43:09masters intermediate masters scaled maybe
- 43:13that i think you could just still sign
- 43:17up and then rank like you sign up
- 43:19for the intermediate division and then you
- 43:21rank your score based off of other people
- 43:23that signed up for that division correct
- 43:27or they could i guess do like for
- 43:29those divisions you could do a qualifier
- 43:30but like for the main ones the open
- 43:32should start
- 43:34Yeah.
- 43:34For elite.
- 43:35And I mean, I think masters,
- 43:37it shouldn't matter.
- 43:38You're going to,
- 43:38that's going to feed out anyway, Larry,
- 43:40they would get the money.
- 43:41Like, like I said, like those separate,
- 43:44when you sign up,
- 43:45those separate entities would get their
- 43:47twenty, twenty five bucks,
- 43:48just as if it's their qualifier.
- 43:57Fill the pooper,
- 43:57the open isn't good enough to test to
- 43:59qualify for a semifinal.
- 44:04I disagree with that.
- 44:05And I don't know if we're talking about
- 44:06NorCal, but like they talked about that.
- 44:09Like these workouts are,
- 44:11they want people to be able to do
- 44:13them in their gyms and there might be
- 44:15like the time caps might be really long
- 44:19for an elite,
- 44:20but they want people to be,
- 44:22they want anyone to do the workouts and
- 44:24try to get through them.
- 44:24And so someone might do a workout that's
- 44:28capped at twelve and six minutes.
- 44:30So what?
- 44:32Who cares?
- 44:35Um, Vicki says not everyone does the open.
- 44:36So that plan wouldn't work.
- 44:37We're going to get into that in a
- 44:38second.
- 44:38Yeah.
- 44:39But this was forced people to do the
- 44:40open, right?
- 44:43Well, here's my, here's my thing.
- 44:45One,
- 44:45they are kind of forced to do the
- 44:46open.
- 44:46If you want to compete in the game
- 44:48season,
- 44:49the rules say you have to finish in
- 44:50the top two thousand for to be able
- 44:54to go on to the games.
- 44:55Correct.
- 44:56If you do not, you don't,
- 44:58you are not eligible to compete at the
- 45:00CrossFit Games.
- 45:02But here's my thing.
- 45:04And I know everybody gets sick of me
- 45:06comparing to other sports.
- 45:08If you are on the PGA Tour and
- 45:13you are trying to qualify for the US
- 45:15Open, the British Open,
- 45:18the PGA Championship, all of those events,
- 45:22you can't go to the Nationwide Tour and
- 45:25play three events to qualify into the PGA
- 45:29Tour Championships.
- 45:32Right.
- 45:32You can't go to live and compete at
- 45:36three events of live and expect that to
- 45:38get you into the PGA championship.
- 45:41Right.
- 45:42I think where we've gone wrong is because
- 45:45CrossFit's broke and they have all these
- 45:46third party people and they're letting
- 45:48them do it however they wish.
- 45:51It's created it where the season doesn't
- 45:53make sense.
- 45:55and here we are back on the same
- 45:56argument I've had every other year is that
- 45:59now you have all these caveats to the
- 46:01ways to get to the CrossFit games.
- 46:05Even if you do have to do the
- 46:06open in the quarters to get to the
- 46:08games,
- 46:10You have all these other avenues or things
- 46:12you have to do to qualify in to
- 46:14get yourself to these places.
- 46:16And I think the more exceptions we allow
- 46:19to happen, the more confusing it gets.
- 46:22And these exceptions of qualifiers before
- 46:25the open is just another piece where it's
- 46:28confusing the season.
- 46:30Now,
- 46:31I understand for NorCal and their
- 46:32community event,
- 46:33this is the time that they can get
- 46:35people in where they have time to do
- 46:36it.
- 46:38They get a lot of people that do
- 46:39it too.
- 46:40Right.
- 46:40And like their event gets like thousands
- 46:43of people.
- 46:43It's like, it's a huge event.
- 46:44They do a really good job for the
- 46:45community.
- 46:46I'm not speaking about NorCal doing a
- 46:48qualifier for their community event
- 46:51whenever you want to do it.
- 46:52But if you are part of the game
- 46:54season,
- 46:55then you should all follow the same
- 46:57structure getting through the season.
- 47:01Yes.
- 47:01A hundred percent.
- 47:04Which I think should start with the Open.
- 47:06The Open should start the season, yes.
- 47:09Because you're like, oh crap,
- 47:10which one should I be doing right now?
- 47:13You're not even thinking about that right
- 47:14now, but you're like, oh,
- 47:15these two or three are happening in
- 47:17January.
- 47:19I need to be in shape in January
- 47:20to get through to be able to do
- 47:23these semifinals.
- 47:28So we have NorCal qualifiers already out
- 47:30there.
- 47:31Do we want to do we even want
- 47:32to look at the workouts?
- 47:33We're already forty seven minutes into
- 47:35this thing.
- 47:36What?
- 47:37Five of them.
- 47:39Six words, I think you started them,
- 47:41Carolyn.
- 47:42Yeah, I've done two of them so far.
- 47:44I did the Bushwacker one today.
- 47:46How was that?
- 47:47It was fun.
- 47:48My butt sore today.
- 47:51Yeah.
- 47:52Right.
- 47:52When I finished, I was like, OK,
- 47:53I've definitely not done like weighted
- 47:55lunges for speed.
- 47:58I was like, well, this is,
- 47:59this is going to be my warmup today.
- 48:00Cause I had burpee.
- 48:01I had,
- 48:02I literally had burpee shuttles in my like
- 48:04conditioning.
- 48:04I'm like, okay, I'll just do this.
- 48:07I woke up this morning and my glutes
- 48:09and butt is sore.
- 48:11Great.
- 48:11No, not looking forward to that.
- 48:14The bushwalkers were like,
- 48:17they weren't like difficult to do.
- 48:18Like they're cool.
- 48:19Like, I don't know.
- 48:19Like I thought it was fine.
- 48:20Yeah.
- 48:20Yeah.
- 48:23And I think the burpee shuttle run is
- 48:25actually a cool movement.
- 48:28I like it.
- 48:29I like that a lot.
- 48:31Can we go through an order?
- 48:33What's the first one?
- 48:35Barbell chipper.
- 48:36Okay.
- 48:37Ten snatch, twenty clean, thirty deadlift,
- 48:39forty bar-facing burpees,
- 48:40and then back down.
- 48:42What's the weight on that?
- 48:43Ninety-five, one thirty-five.
- 48:45Okay,
- 48:46so just ninety-five all the way through.
- 48:47Just get through it.
- 48:48I might try to do that one.
- 48:49I think I can move ninety-five.
- 48:51grippy yeah that sounds gnarly grippy yeah
- 49:00and then here is workout two and three
- 49:04um one rep shoulder to overhead five
- 49:07minutes to establish one rep shoulder to
- 49:09overhead and then crash bang six minute
- 49:12mark and wrap of five four three two
- 49:15one two three four five four three and
- 49:18so on a front squat ring muscle up
- 49:22What's the weight on that front squat?
- 49:23I think it's one twenty five I have
- 49:27in my head.
- 49:28They don't have it on here.
- 49:30I think it's one eighty five one twenty
- 49:31five.
- 49:31That's what I have in my head right
- 49:32now.
- 49:32OK, I haven't done that one.
- 49:35I'm dreading it.
- 49:37Not for part two, for part one.
- 49:40Yeah.
- 49:43And then we have this one.
- 49:48It is number four.
- 49:51Uh, grip and rip three rounds for time,
- 49:53thirty pull ups,
- 49:54three hundred foot traveling double
- 49:56unders.
- 49:57This time cap is very tight.
- 49:59Is it?
- 49:59I haven't done it.
- 50:00I haven't done it,
- 50:01but I've had a few friends that have
- 50:02done it.
- 50:03Um, just tight time, tight, tight,
- 50:07tight time.
- 50:08So I might try that on tomorrow.
- 50:09We have double unders in class.
- 50:11I've been doing double unders,
- 50:12but traveling gives me a little bit of
- 50:17apprehension.
- 50:17So we'll see.
- 50:18I might, I might.
- 50:19play with that one tomorrow they get your
- 50:21engine fired up they they had traveling
- 50:23double unders last year yeah last year the
- 50:25year last year the year before i think
- 50:26it was last year i did their qualifiers
- 50:28last year as well yeah um and they
- 50:31had the traveling double unders there and
- 50:33yeah it was a gets your engine for
- 50:35sure but for me i liked it because
- 50:37it's less double unders than if it would
- 50:38be i don't know yeah right two hundred
- 50:43um larry says number two fire of course
- 50:46because it's a one rep max tristan said
- 50:48the weight was two twenty five one fifty
- 50:51five on that front squat definitely is it
- 50:52okay i will definitely not be trying that
- 50:55one that's too heavy for me right now
- 50:56all right eric mackie says you could buy
- 51:01if you can do the pull-up one that
- 51:02could be a fun one for you okay
- 51:04yeah
- 51:06And then we have five erosion,
- 51:08twenty eighty hundred calorie row and then
- 51:12twenty toes to bar, twenty box jump overs.
- 51:15This I think I normally would like,
- 51:17but like looking at this,
- 51:19I do not want to do this.
- 51:21It's so long.
- 51:23I think I'm going to do it.
- 51:24I think I'm going to do it on
- 51:25Tuesday just because Monday is my day off.
- 51:27So I feel like I want to do
- 51:28it on Tuesday.
- 51:29Jumping is not great for me.
- 51:32I've been trying to play with box jumps.
- 51:36And maybe that's what you saw Scott.
- 51:37I did the a hundred burpee box jump
- 51:38overs for time.
- 51:39I am not quick at them.
- 51:40I just cautious.
- 51:44Um, Northern,
- 51:46and this is number six snowball effect,
- 51:48twelve, twelve minute cap, five hundred,
- 51:51five hundred feet burpee shuttle,
- 51:53two hundred and fifty double dumbbell
- 51:55walking lunge, thirty wall balls,
- 51:57thirty bushwhackers,
- 51:58thirty hand stand shoulder taps.
- 52:02It was fun.
- 52:03When I heard handstand shoulder taps,
- 52:04I thought as a former judge,
- 52:06that would be a judging nightmare.
- 52:10Yeah.
- 52:10Cause you can be close,
- 52:11but you're not really touching.
- 52:12Yeah.
- 52:12It's hard to tell.
- 52:13And sometimes people's shirts are like,
- 52:15especially as you're inverted,
- 52:17the shirt gets like nice and loose and
- 52:19hard to see depending on what angle you
- 52:21are from the camera.
- 52:22So I totally agree with that.
- 52:24Well,
- 52:24and even in live judging to get to
- 52:26the angle,
- 52:27to see that on both shoulders is really,
- 52:29really hard.
- 52:30Yeah.
- 52:33And even the Bushwhackers like full
- 52:35extension on some of those is going to
- 52:37be tough,
- 52:38but I guess those are fine to look
- 52:40at.
- 52:40It's kind of like a dumbbell snatch.
- 52:45So what are these burpee shuttles?
- 52:46I haven't seen them.
- 52:48So one rep is you go down burpee
- 52:50and then you run to the other side.
- 52:52That's a rep.
- 52:53And then you would go down burpee.
- 52:54You run back to the other side.
- 52:55So one rep is a twenty five foot
- 52:58burpee plus a run.
- 53:00Gotcha.
- 53:01So you go down.
- 53:02As bad as I thought it'd be.
- 53:04I was picturing some kind of high rocks
- 53:05thing.
- 53:06And then five hundred feet is twenty
- 53:08twenty total.
- 53:09So you're going ten down and backs.
- 53:15All right.
- 53:15There we go.
- 53:16All right.
- 53:16So how did you do your lunges?
- 53:19Farmer.
- 53:21I mean.
- 53:23It's just easier to pick them up and
- 53:25start moving.
- 53:26Yeah.
- 53:29did you do no i did farmer as
- 53:30well okay but i was thinking like at
- 53:32a certain point if i should go to
- 53:33a i couldn't throw him up there yeah
- 53:37but i just didn't want to i i
- 53:38don't know uh crossfit cross fat nails
- 53:42this uh the burpee shuttle sound like a
- 53:45high school football punishment for sure
- 53:48so much i probably did it five hundred
- 53:51times um
- 53:58I wonder how many no reps will be
- 53:59given because of that.
- 54:01If that workout goes to video review,
- 54:04it's the, uh, the association of judges,
- 54:07um, that are,
- 54:08I think reviewing the videos.
- 54:13Okay.
- 54:15At the end of their twenty-five foot lane,
- 54:17doing those that you're not going to be
- 54:18able to see in video review.
- 54:22Eric Mackey says I'm not against the
- 54:23evolution of the sport,
- 54:24but too many outside the standards.
- 54:28think that's what they are though like if
- 54:30you're going to norcal you know what you
- 54:32get and i'm okay with it as long
- 54:34as it's not a surprise yeah you know
- 54:38you're gonna get uh different movements
- 54:41there yeah the kneeling they don't they
- 54:44won't change from that like that's that's
- 54:46who they are that's who they've always
- 54:47been like they're gonna have they're gonna
- 54:50explore different movements
- 54:52they were on Savan on Friday,
- 54:54Ben and Blair,
- 54:55and they are very unapologetic about this,
- 54:58that they believe that that is how
- 55:00CrossFit was designed.
- 55:01That's how it started.
- 55:03And they do not want to vary from
- 55:05that.
- 55:05They think too many people have,
- 55:07and they want to keep it as old
- 55:09school as possible.
- 55:11See,
- 55:11I like different movements personally that
- 55:15people have in practice and then just go.
- 55:17Yeah.
- 55:20Like I liked the reverse lunge wall balls
- 55:22last year.
- 55:24I liked those two.
- 55:26I heard a lot of people actually liked
- 55:27them more than the regular wall ball.
- 55:30Well,
- 55:31there's an aspect of balance and timing
- 55:33and like just throwing, coming back.
- 55:36Like the flooring was a little bit weird
- 55:37because the mat and where the floor like
- 55:40was higher.
- 55:41So it was easier for shorter people to
- 55:43have like smaller reverse lunge,
- 55:46but the actual movement I liked.
- 55:50So in addition to all this being out
- 55:52now,
- 55:53I know French Throwdown is doing their
- 55:54qualifiers.
- 55:56LATAM has started theirs.
- 55:58But Mayhem already sent out invites for
- 56:00semifinals.
- 56:02We haven't had the Open.
- 56:03We haven't had quarterfinals.
- 56:06And so we don't even know if people
- 56:07are eligible to compete in the season,
- 56:09and we're sending out invites to a
- 56:12semifinal competition.
- 56:13Bingo.
- 56:14Yep.
- 56:17And they are using the rogue leaderboard
- 56:20for their list.
- 56:22What's crazy is like theoretically right
- 56:25now, I'm just thinking out loud.
- 56:27Someone could do their open workouts,
- 56:30get it submitted, but be injured.
- 56:32Not even, not even do it.
- 56:35Let's be honest.
- 56:36Their video is not getting reviewed in the
- 56:37open,
- 56:38get an invite to a semifinal and then
- 56:40continue their season in June.
- 56:43Like that's crazy.
- 56:52Did we lose you, Scott?
- 56:56I think so.
- 56:56He's trying to reset it.
- 57:01I hope people don't do that and they
- 57:03actually do the workouts.
- 57:06You know people can do that.
- 57:09Or could do it.
- 57:14Tristan,
- 57:15are you going to have to go just
- 57:15because it's going to piss you off or
- 57:17you need to go and you don't want
- 57:18to miss us?
- 57:30Yeah.
- 57:31But I don't think that they need to
- 57:32do the quarters.
- 57:33I think you just have to finish a
- 57:34certain amount in the open.
- 57:36So someone... Right?
- 57:38It's not about quarterfinals where you
- 57:40finish to qualify for the games.
- 57:41It's just the...
- 57:43You just need a certain amount in the
- 57:44open.
- 57:46True.
- 57:46Top two thousand or whatever in the open
- 57:48and then... And then... For quarters.
- 57:51Well...
- 57:53I suppose if you already did your
- 57:54qualifier or you got invited to Mayhem,
- 57:56yeah.
- 57:56As long as you're top two thousand...
- 58:00So you could be injured or take your
- 58:02off season right now and just, yeah.
- 58:06Just interesting how the season is.
- 58:08I missed half,
- 58:09missed half of your conversation.
- 58:10So I'll just let you guys talk.
- 58:13Which is why I wish the videos,
- 58:15like you would post them in the open
- 58:17to avoid that kind of stuff.
- 58:18Because I feel people do that.
- 58:21Like I've had to submit my videos for
- 58:22the open every single year,
- 58:25like almost all of them.
- 58:26And yeah,
- 58:27I know that like people that are in
- 58:29the two thousand or whatever,
- 58:30like they don't they can just do whatever
- 58:32they want because their videos will never
- 58:34even get asked.
- 58:35So, yeah.
- 58:37Scott, do you know the answer to this?
- 58:38I don't know if this is on Holly's.
- 58:40If someone hypothetically was invited to
- 58:43mayhem and then next pencil,
- 58:46pen and sharpie.
- 58:47I know.
- 58:47Hold on.
- 58:48But I'm not really going in that.
- 58:51But did the open finished fifteen hundred
- 58:55and then didn't do quarters or semis.
- 58:58Didn't do quarters.
- 59:00Well, yeah, didn't do quarters.
- 59:01So didn't do semis, but got, you know,
- 59:03got fifteen hundred in the open,
- 59:04went to mayhem.
- 59:05And are they good?
- 59:06I, I don't know.
- 59:12I don't know.
- 59:13I'd have to look at the rule book.
- 59:14I would hope that you would have to
- 59:16call.
- 59:16You would have to participate in
- 59:17quarterfinals to go to the games.
- 59:21Yeah, you'd think so.
- 59:23I would hope,
- 59:23but I don't look it up.
- 59:27You have to do quarters.
- 59:28And quarters you need to put your video
- 59:31public, right?
- 59:32Or no?
- 59:32It's quarters that you have to be top
- 59:34two thousand.
- 59:36Okay, that makes more sense anyway.
- 59:37So you don't have to do anything in
- 59:38the open except make it to quarters.
- 59:40You just need to be top twenty-five
- 59:41percent, top two thousand in quarters,
- 59:43and then technically you could just go to
- 59:45the semi that you were at.
- 59:46You don't have to do anything.
- 59:47Okay, that makes sense.
- 59:50Yeah, there we go.
- 59:51Yeah.
- 59:52Well,
- 59:52the open matters to the twenty-five
- 59:55percent mark.
- 59:57But yes, Tristan.
- 1:00:02Yeah.
- 1:00:02So on that kind of,
- 1:00:03we're going to do the next pencil, pen,
- 1:00:05or sharpie.
- 1:00:06And that is,
- 1:00:07if you are not participating in the
- 1:00:08CrossFit Games season,
- 1:00:09you should not be able to participate in
- 1:00:11the semifinals that occur during the
- 1:00:14season.
- 1:00:15Sharpie.
- 1:00:15Sharpie.
- 1:00:16Sharpie.
- 1:00:17Everyone in the chat is going to Sharpie
- 1:00:18this.
- 1:00:19You can compete at the intermediate
- 1:00:23division, the scale division there,
- 1:00:26the master's division.
- 1:00:28No route to the actual games.
- 1:00:30No.
- 1:00:32You cannot influence the leaderboard
- 1:00:33whatsoever.
- 1:00:35Why would you go to a semis?
- 1:00:37Yes,
- 1:00:37you can go to NorCal's open division or
- 1:00:39whatever,
- 1:00:39but why would you go to a semi
- 1:00:43if you don't want to participate in the
- 1:00:44cross?
- 1:00:45I don't understand.
- 1:00:48Yeah, no.
- 1:00:48You can go there for other divisions.
- 1:00:50That's fine because they host other
- 1:00:52divisions,
- 1:00:52but you cannot go in the path of
- 1:00:54the games if you are not doing the
- 1:00:57open, if you're not doing the quarters.
- 1:00:59Absolutely not.
- 1:01:00No more of that, which is like, yeah.
- 1:01:05Which we'll see with Mayhem what will
- 1:01:06happen.
- 1:01:07Andrew Stan said,
- 1:01:08compete in the RX division, but not elite.
- 1:01:10Yes.
- 1:01:14Morris Sharpie, another graved in stone.
- 1:01:17Like some will go for prize money, right?
- 1:01:19But no, that's not okay.
- 1:01:22What about someone who's already
- 1:01:23qualified?
- 1:01:24Should they be able to go to a
- 1:01:26second one?
- 1:01:26I don't think so.
- 1:01:28No,
- 1:01:28it gets to move on to the next
- 1:01:29person.
- 1:01:30This is Tristan's on it right here.
- 1:01:36I disagree with this.
- 1:01:38What?
- 1:01:39You completely disagree with this.
- 1:01:41Well, okay.
- 1:01:42Your actions from last year should have no
- 1:01:44bearing on this season.
- 1:01:46I suppose if you were, like,
- 1:01:48hurt and couldn't, but...
- 1:01:50I don't care what the reason is.
- 1:01:52People sit out for any number of reasons.
- 1:01:54How many pro athletes retire and come
- 1:01:56back?
- 1:01:57How many...
- 1:01:59No, he's saying you shouldn't get a...
- 1:02:02If you didn't do the season last year,
- 1:02:04why are you getting an invite to Mayhem
- 1:02:05right now?
- 1:02:06You need to do qualifiers.
- 1:02:07You need to do the Open and get
- 1:02:08yourself earning.
- 1:02:09I still think it's a slippery slope if
- 1:02:12you're factoring things on last season.
- 1:02:15If they sign up for the Open this
- 1:02:16year,
- 1:02:17they should be able to get an invite.
- 1:02:21Yeah, if they earn it, but like...
- 1:02:23That's kind of the problem with Mayhem
- 1:02:25Bean doing this right now.
- 1:02:26By sending it out now,
- 1:02:28you can't restrict people because you
- 1:02:29don't know.
- 1:02:32Well, they should lose their spot.
- 1:02:34Somebody should be on backfill if somebody
- 1:02:36doesn't do the open.
- 1:02:41I don't agree with using last year's
- 1:02:45thought last year's twenty five season is
- 1:02:48over.
- 1:02:49Twenty six season should just be based on
- 1:02:51what happens in twenty six,
- 1:02:52which is why I hate that wrote that
- 1:02:54they're using the rogue leaderboard.
- 1:02:55Right.
- 1:02:56In historical.
- 1:03:00In historical numbers to to make the
- 1:03:02invites.
- 1:03:04I hate a lot of this stuff about
- 1:03:05the season.
- 1:03:06It's because their semifinal is the
- 1:03:09earliest one, right?
- 1:03:10So they're trying to get their field
- 1:03:13established before.
- 1:03:17Yeah.
- 1:03:22Um...
- 1:03:25I agree, Tristan.
- 1:03:26I think you shouldn't get a free invite.
- 1:03:28You should have to do the like you're
- 1:03:31going to be in one of the later
- 1:03:32semis, I guess.
- 1:03:33You're going to have to do the open.
- 1:03:34You're going to have to do a qualifier
- 1:03:37or be top twenty to get your seat.
- 1:03:39You shouldn't just get a free invite.
- 1:03:43Why are you taking twenty twenty or
- 1:03:45additional invite?
- 1:03:46And if you don't qualify,
- 1:03:47then you're booted.
- 1:03:49And the next person on the list comes
- 1:03:50on.
- 1:03:51Perfect.
- 1:03:51I'm fine with that.
- 1:03:52Like, yes, I'm fine with that.
- 1:03:54If you're a conditional invitee because we
- 1:03:57need to make sure that you're going to
- 1:03:59get there.
- 1:03:59That's one thing.
- 1:04:03Right.
- 1:04:03So.
- 1:04:05So here's what I had Holly do.
- 1:04:07And I just, small sample size,
- 1:04:10I had her take everybody out of the
- 1:04:12Mayhem Classic that did not participate in
- 1:04:15the game season last year.
- 1:04:18And did it affect who got tickets to
- 1:04:20the games?
- 1:04:22And it did on the women's side.
- 1:04:25If you took out everybody from last year
- 1:04:27that did not participate in the season,
- 1:04:30Emily Rolfe gets her ticket to the
- 1:04:32CrossFit Games at Mayhem.
- 1:04:36Who competed at AHAM?
- 1:04:38Oh, Paige, right?
- 1:04:40Paige, the girl from Latin America.
- 1:04:46Victoria?
- 1:04:47Was it Victoria Campos?
- 1:04:48Victoria Campos.
- 1:04:51I think there was a couple, actually.
- 1:04:53Okay.
- 1:04:56She has a spreadsheet.
- 1:04:57I just don't have it pulled up because
- 1:04:58of... That's interesting.
- 1:05:00Yeah.
- 1:05:01Yeah, it would have essentially,
- 1:05:03if you take out everybody,
- 1:05:04it forced a three-way tie on the women's
- 1:05:07side with Fee, Emily, and Abby.
- 1:05:12And because Emily won more events,
- 1:05:14Emily would have actually won.
- 1:05:16Wow.
- 1:05:16The tiebreaker.
- 1:05:18Fee would have finished second and Abby
- 1:05:19would have finished third.
- 1:05:21Wow.
- 1:05:24So by allowing people that aren't
- 1:05:26participating in the season into that
- 1:05:27event, Emily never got her ticket.
- 1:05:31agree yeah she tried to come back for
- 1:05:36an orcal but her elbow wasn't ready right
- 1:05:39like she was there but she didn't i
- 1:05:41don't think she did two events one one
- 1:05:44for sure possibly two and she still
- 1:05:46finished top ten there which is crazy yeah
- 1:05:49holly confirmed it was victorian page okay
- 1:05:51yeah
- 1:05:54And I know I'm sure that Elisa's wins
- 1:05:57in Europe probably affected it,
- 1:06:00but I didn't want to get put too
- 1:06:01much on Holly for something that happened
- 1:06:04a year ago,
- 1:06:05especially when we proved the point in the
- 1:06:07first shot.
- 1:06:12Grace, I know they're big draws,
- 1:06:14but this is a season.
- 1:06:15No other professional sport allows people
- 1:06:18not participating in the season to come in
- 1:06:20to take away prize money from other
- 1:06:22athletes.
- 1:06:23If someone said it well here,
- 1:06:25like if you're trying to qualify for the
- 1:06:27Olympics,
- 1:06:27you don't invite just someone to the
- 1:06:29Olympic trials or something.
- 1:06:31Yeah.
- 1:06:32Yeah.
- 1:06:32I remember reading that somewhere there.
- 1:06:36Uh, Tony,
- 1:06:37I saw you at a super chat.
- 1:06:38I'll get to that in a second.
- 1:06:39I swear.
- 1:06:40There's just a ton, ton in here.
- 1:06:43Um,
- 1:06:45So confused with all the different
- 1:06:46leagues.
- 1:06:47If someone won Rogue as a champion to
- 1:06:49automatic make semifinals or finals in
- 1:06:51CrossFit or vice versa,
- 1:06:52maybe it's not a dumb question, but no,
- 1:06:54they do not get an automatic bid.
- 1:06:58Now for the semifinal, see,
- 1:07:00this is where it gets confusing.
- 1:07:02Here's this guy that's new to CrossFit
- 1:07:04trying to understand the system and NorCal
- 1:07:07has four automatic bids.
- 1:07:08If you are the male or female winner
- 1:07:10of crash or the male or female winner
- 1:07:13of their own event last year,
- 1:07:15you get an automatic bid and bypass
- 1:07:16everything.
- 1:07:19Yeah.
- 1:07:20Like I like that,
- 1:07:21like they're champions of the year before.
- 1:07:22I'm okay with that.
- 1:07:23The crash one to me is kind of
- 1:07:25weird.
- 1:07:26Like,
- 1:07:29It was never announced prior to Crash.
- 1:07:33Prior to Crash's qualifications,
- 1:07:36that that would also be part of the
- 1:07:39following season.
- 1:07:40Something like that is... I don't know.
- 1:07:43It shouldn't happen.
- 1:07:45But it's their concept.
- 1:07:46Tony did put in a super chat.
- 1:07:48What are your thoughts about these team
- 1:07:49leagues like United grid grid league?
- 1:07:52I think that's a discussion for another
- 1:07:53night.
- 1:07:53I'll throw it because you put it in
- 1:07:55here.
- 1:07:55I'll put it on the agenda for next
- 1:07:57week.
- 1:07:57And we'll talk about the team aspect of
- 1:08:00CrossFit,
- 1:08:00but I think that's a much lengthier topic
- 1:08:03than we have time for tonight,
- 1:08:05but thank you so much for the five
- 1:08:06bucks.
- 1:08:07We truly appreciate it.
- 1:08:11Yeah.
- 1:08:16This is because no one is in charge
- 1:08:17of oversight.
- 1:08:21I'm going to say the elephant in the
- 1:08:23room.
- 1:08:26Lazer died at the games.
- 1:08:27CrossFit wanted to take a step back and
- 1:08:29assume no responsibility or as least
- 1:08:31amount of responsibility as they could the
- 1:08:33next season.
- 1:08:34And so they stepped back from every
- 1:08:36semifinal and every aspect of the CrossFit
- 1:08:39game season until the actual games.
- 1:08:42That took away so much liability from them
- 1:08:45by doing so.
- 1:08:47And it put the ball in everybody else's
- 1:08:49court to do everything for them along the
- 1:08:52way.
- 1:08:53And because of that,
- 1:08:54they had to allow these third-party
- 1:08:56entities to be able to do things the
- 1:08:58way they wanted to do them.
- 1:08:59And now we're in this huge pickle.
- 1:09:04Yep.
- 1:09:06And it sucks that because of a fear
- 1:09:07of liability, we have this...
- 1:09:12messed up season well and partially
- 1:09:15liability and like i said partially the
- 1:09:18venture capitalists trying to cut costs
- 1:09:20wherever they can and make their books
- 1:09:22look better they've offloaded the costs of
- 1:09:25these things and yeah it's a problem it
- 1:09:27doesn't do anything good for the sport and
- 1:09:32grace says yeah they couldn't afford to
- 1:09:34keep funding those events too i think
- 1:09:35that's the easy public answer to give
- 1:09:39And maybe they couldn't, I don't know.
- 1:09:42But I do,
- 1:09:43I think a lot of it came out
- 1:09:44of the liability from the previous season.
- 1:09:50So, yeah.
- 1:09:57Andrew said,
- 1:09:58I'm fine with other people running the
- 1:09:59semis,
- 1:10:00but there has to be some cohesion and
- 1:10:02oversight.
- 1:10:04Do you think we're all doing grace this
- 1:10:05year?
- 1:10:05Heavy grace.
- 1:10:10Heavy Grace at like seven semifinals.
- 1:10:16Maybe that's why everybody had the elbow
- 1:10:17and shoulder injuries.
- 1:10:20Yeah.
- 1:10:21Because everybody did Heavy Isabel twenty
- 1:10:23seven times.
- 1:10:31CrossFit is low key timid to scare any
- 1:10:33more dollars or voices away.
- 1:10:36It's a great point, too.
- 1:10:38Do you think that we will have a
- 1:10:40repeated workout that goes around the
- 1:10:42semifinals or multiple?
- 1:10:45I pray no.
- 1:10:47I kind of think no.
- 1:10:51Like a weekend like NorCal who's at the
- 1:10:53same time as Syndicate and Torian maybe?
- 1:10:57Like would they have some sort of
- 1:10:59three-way arrangement that everyone that's
- 1:11:03going through that weekend is doing a
- 1:11:05certain workout?
- 1:11:06Like I wouldn't be surprised.
- 1:11:08The real question you're asking is,
- 1:11:10is Mayhem going to program everything
- 1:11:11again this year?
- 1:11:12Right.
- 1:11:12That's what you're asking.
- 1:11:16They won't matter.
- 1:11:17Or JR.
- 1:11:17I think JR is.
- 1:11:19Yeah, JR is picking up some extra.
- 1:11:22Mayhem or JR.
- 1:11:23Yeah, but then it'll collab with Angelo.
- 1:11:25So it's one big cohesive group.
- 1:11:28But speaking of Mayhem,
- 1:11:29thank you to Mayhem for sending me a
- 1:11:30barbell this week.
- 1:11:32That was sweet.
- 1:11:34Is that what you got for the everyday
- 1:11:35hero?
- 1:11:37Awesome.
- 1:11:38They like sent, they,
- 1:11:39they messaged us a while ago or addresses.
- 1:11:41It said,
- 1:11:41they said that they had something for us
- 1:11:42and then got a nice barbell this week.
- 1:11:45So that's awesome.
- 1:11:49But it doesn't mean that I think they
- 1:11:50should program every semifinal,
- 1:11:54even though they treated us very,
- 1:11:55very nicely.
- 1:11:58Vicky says,
- 1:11:58I still think there should be a checkbox
- 1:12:00on open registration to separate those who
- 1:12:02say they want to be in contention for
- 1:12:03the games.
- 1:12:04So video review would be easier to
- 1:12:06decipher and be required for open,
- 1:12:08et cetera.
- 1:12:09I think that's a good idea.
- 1:12:10Great idea.
- 1:12:11Yep.
- 1:12:14I mean, it can be an extra five,
- 1:12:15ten bucks there.
- 1:12:16And I think you could even add a
- 1:12:18donation thing if you want to donate to
- 1:12:20the season.
- 1:12:21Like why wouldn't they do that in the
- 1:12:22registration, right?
- 1:12:24Like sign up for twenty knowing that the
- 1:12:26money goes towards the game season.
- 1:12:27If you add another thing,
- 1:12:29if you'd like to increase your your
- 1:12:33donation to the season or support the
- 1:12:35season.
- 1:12:38How they get another cross that I don't
- 1:12:40think you get to accuse anybody of
- 1:12:42secretly being somebody else.
- 1:12:46We've been trying to figure out who you
- 1:12:47are for a year.
- 1:12:52All right.
- 1:12:52So last pencil, pen,
- 1:12:54or Sharpie is it's a good one.
- 1:12:59Pencil, pen, or Sharpie.
- 1:13:00Pat Vellner will do the twenty twenty six
- 1:13:02game season.
- 1:13:09Pencil.
- 1:13:12I think pen.
- 1:13:13I mean, CrossFit is secretly me.
- 1:13:20I think he wants to.
- 1:13:23I think he's,
- 1:13:24and Pat showed in the past,
- 1:13:26he's able to rehab properly.
- 1:13:30We are, we are tight on time.
- 1:13:33Again, I think,
- 1:13:36I think he's just going to play with
- 1:13:37like, he's in a role.
- 1:13:38How bad is his injury?
- 1:13:39So what Jamie and Caroline are referring
- 1:13:41to is that it was announced on Pat's
- 1:13:45Instagram account that he suffered a torn
- 1:13:46rotator cuff at the finals in Copenhagen
- 1:13:49for the WFP.
- 1:13:51He is doing rehab right now.
- 1:13:54The dude went to the games with a
- 1:13:56torn bicep or something?
- 1:13:58Yeah, in twenty eighteen.
- 1:14:01The man is a machine and he's great
- 1:14:03at rehab.
- 1:14:05I think he can finish top twenty five
- 1:14:07percent in the open with one one arm.
- 1:14:09I agree.
- 1:14:09Oh, for sure.
- 1:14:12And if you look at the video of
- 1:14:13him rehabbing, he has full mobility,
- 1:14:15the arm.
- 1:14:16It's just I don't know what kind of
- 1:14:17strength.
- 1:14:18He said the only thing that's really
- 1:14:20limiting is doing the exact same movement
- 1:14:21that caused the injury,
- 1:14:22which is snatching.
- 1:14:26Right.
- 1:14:27So.
- 1:14:31Here's why I do think he's going to
- 1:14:32do it.
- 1:14:32Sharpie.
- 1:14:33I'm a Sharpie on this one.
- 1:14:34I see a lot of pens.
- 1:14:35Sten's a pen.
- 1:14:37Clock is a pencil.
- 1:14:40Paige Smith is a pencil.
- 1:14:42Eric Mackey's a pencil.
- 1:14:44I don't even know what CrossFit's a
- 1:14:45pencil.
- 1:14:46Have you seen the story time with Pat
- 1:14:48stuff he's been putting out where he's
- 1:14:50going back and talking about like his
- 1:14:52favorite moments in the CrossFit game
- 1:14:54seasons or CrossFit games and going
- 1:14:56through those moments?
- 1:14:58You don't reminisce about all that stuff
- 1:15:01if you're not making one final run.
- 1:15:05Like I, and that,
- 1:15:06that's my Sharpie belief right there.
- 1:15:08It's all on.
- 1:15:10You don't look back at your career.
- 1:15:12I think he wants one more shot to
- 1:15:15go through the season before he retires.
- 1:15:18Yeah, I agree.
- 1:15:19I think he wants to, my pen,
- 1:15:21my pen is because I'm not sure like
- 1:15:23the fate program will favor him to make
- 1:15:25it out of semis, but yes,
- 1:15:28I think he's going to make a run
- 1:15:29at it for sure.
- 1:15:32Larry with the harsh, unfortunately,
- 1:15:33I just don't care.
- 1:15:35Uh, he's fine, but I never,
- 1:15:36but never got it done better guys compared
- 1:15:38to now.
- 1:15:39I love how, like in our society,
- 1:15:41if you don't win the whole thing,
- 1:15:42you didn't get it done.
- 1:15:43Yeah.
- 1:15:43That's crazy.
- 1:15:45Yeah.
- 1:15:45Like seeing Hunter talk about Dale and
- 1:15:47like basically say he's not even good in
- 1:15:50the sport is why like wild to me.
- 1:15:53Yeah.
- 1:15:53Like I grew up in the eighties.
- 1:15:55Dan Marino was the greatest quarterback to
- 1:15:57ever play at that point in time in
- 1:15:58the NFL.
- 1:15:59He never won a Superbowl.
- 1:16:00It doesn't mean he didn't get it done.
- 1:16:04Right.
- 1:16:04Like.
- 1:16:09Yeah.
- 1:16:09Lots and lots of pencils.
- 1:16:12It's crazy.
- 1:16:13Jody says, yeah, those are great posts.
- 1:16:14They're great posts.
- 1:16:16Pat is a great storyteller.
- 1:16:18Yes.
- 1:16:20Like when he does his like event by
- 1:16:22event recaps at the games,
- 1:16:24they are hilarious.
- 1:16:26They make me laugh.
- 1:16:27He's a great storyteller.
- 1:16:32I want the game season back to being
- 1:16:34complete again.
- 1:16:36We as fans are being cheated when we
- 1:16:38don't get the epic matchups like Laura
- 1:16:41versus Tia or like Pat versus Justin or
- 1:16:44those types of things.
- 1:16:46I want everybody back together again.
- 1:16:50So that's what I want.
- 1:16:52I don't care what happened in the past.
- 1:16:54Let's move forward.
- 1:16:55We're never going to accomplish anything
- 1:16:57and grow in the sport as separate
- 1:17:00entities.
- 1:17:01It's got to be done as one.
- 1:17:03And I want everybody back together
- 1:17:05competing against each other.
- 1:17:09Yeah.
- 1:17:10I think Laura might not, might be out.
- 1:17:12So
- 1:17:15Well,
- 1:17:15I'm not saying that's going to happen.
- 1:17:17I'm talking about Pat and his posts make
- 1:17:20me believe that he's coming back.
- 1:17:23I'm with you.
- 1:17:26And he's really kind of nestled in with
- 1:17:27the boys interrupted.
- 1:17:28I agree.
- 1:17:31Like those two things,
- 1:17:32like he's kind of like uncle Pat to
- 1:17:34them and kind of becoming a mentor to
- 1:17:38them.
- 1:17:38And I think he relishes that role.
- 1:17:44Yeah.
- 1:17:44Yes, Eric.
- 1:17:45Kumbaya.
- 1:17:46Let's all sing it.
- 1:17:54He's one of the funniest guys in the
- 1:17:56athlete area to chirps, nicknames, jokes.
- 1:17:59He's really well liked by like all of
- 1:18:00the competitors.
- 1:18:01He's probably like, honestly,
- 1:18:03the most popular,
- 1:18:04one of the most popular guys.
- 1:18:09One of my favorite moments ever is when
- 1:18:12Pat got pissed about the sled drag at
- 1:18:15semifinals.
- 1:18:17And Jamie wanted to get an interview with
- 1:18:18him.
- 1:18:19And he said, yes,
- 1:18:21as long as you run with me.
- 1:18:22And Jamie ran.
- 1:18:24If you were in Pasadena or not in
- 1:18:26Pasadena, you don't know.
- 1:18:27The athlete area and the venue were two
- 1:18:31separate buildings.
- 1:18:32Jamie ran down the street with Pat getting
- 1:18:34the interview while running.
- 1:18:36We were walking.
- 1:18:37He just said I had to move along
- 1:18:39with him.
- 1:18:39Yeah.
- 1:18:42No problem.
- 1:18:44I'm up for it.
- 1:18:47Larry, truth is, Scott,
- 1:18:48when they quit on CrossFit,
- 1:18:50I kind of quit watching them.
- 1:18:51You're entitled to like and dislike any
- 1:18:54athletes you want.
- 1:18:55I just think the sport is better when
- 1:18:57we're all together.
- 1:18:58Yeah.
- 1:19:06Ken says mentor.
- 1:19:07He's never won three or four.
- 1:19:09He's never won in three of the four
- 1:19:10boys interrupted have won four.
- 1:19:12He can be a mentor in life without
- 1:19:15being a mentor in the sport.
- 1:19:17Yeah.
- 1:19:18Like, my gosh, you guys.
- 1:19:20Ken and Larry, like, playing hardcore.
- 1:19:24He also has, like, five games medals,
- 1:19:27I think, for, like.
- 1:19:28Yeah.
- 1:19:29Four or five.
- 1:19:30He's won Rogue multiple times.
- 1:19:32He's won Waterpalooza multiple times.
- 1:19:35And one of the most popular guys in
- 1:19:36the sport ever.
- 1:19:37Yeah.
- 1:19:39I would venture to say if you asked
- 1:19:41any one of those four boys,
- 1:19:43if they would take advice from Pat on
- 1:19:46an event,
- 1:19:46they would one hundred percent take advice
- 1:19:49from Pat.
- 1:19:50Absolutely.
- 1:19:51Yeah.
- 1:19:54I think we let our preconceived notions
- 1:19:58cloud our judgment sometimes.
- 1:20:03Yeah.
- 1:20:08Okay, so that is that.
- 1:20:11We are really tight on time now.
- 1:20:16So, Bethany Flores gave birth.
- 1:20:18Oh, did she?
- 1:20:20Yes,
- 1:20:21her and Randy welcomed in a baby boy.
- 1:20:24So...
- 1:20:27Congratulations to her.
- 1:20:28She's been a friend of the show for
- 1:20:29a long time and a friend to me
- 1:20:31for a long time.
- 1:20:32Super happy for her and Randy really
- 1:20:34psyched about that.
- 1:20:36And then I'm going to finish on this
- 1:20:38one.
- 1:20:39The U S department of health this week
- 1:20:41or make America healthy again,
- 1:20:43announced a brand new food pyramid in the
- 1:20:47United States where they are flipping it
- 1:20:50upside down.
- 1:20:54And they are waging war against added
- 1:20:57sugars and processed carbohydrates.
- 1:21:02Something that people in the fitness
- 1:21:03industry thought would never, ever, ever,
- 1:21:06ever happen, happened this week.
- 1:21:10Your reaction to that statement.
- 1:21:13We don't know where it's going, right?
- 1:21:14It's just the announcement.
- 1:21:16We don't know what it means.
- 1:21:18But to hear a government official of any
- 1:21:20kind make those statements,
- 1:21:24is huge in my opinion i mean i
- 1:21:29it's exciting i i it's long overdue i'm
- 1:21:34glad somebody with some authority put
- 1:21:36something out there we'll see we'll see
- 1:21:39what that how that trickles down like
- 1:21:41curious to see what it'll do to like
- 1:21:43lunch programs um
- 1:21:47Do they have lunch programs in the States?
- 1:21:49Like for all the schools?
- 1:21:51Yeah,
- 1:21:52schools have to follow the adopted food
- 1:21:54pyramid.
- 1:21:55Yeah.
- 1:21:56And because they changed the food pyramid,
- 1:21:58they have to follow the new one.
- 1:22:02And my mom has been a lunch lady
- 1:22:04for forty years.
- 1:22:06So I know all about that.
- 1:22:11Yeah.
- 1:22:11I mean, it's to us,
- 1:22:12it's like common sense, right?
- 1:22:14It's like what we've been doing,
- 1:22:15but it's it.
- 1:22:17Yeah.
- 1:22:17It'll be very interesting to see the
- 1:22:19trickle down.
- 1:22:21I can only imagine what some of the,
- 1:22:23yeah,
- 1:22:23like big car is going crazy right now.
- 1:22:26I can only imagine there's gotta be some
- 1:22:30heads at some of these companies that are
- 1:22:31like, no,
- 1:22:38So Lex jumps in a schools need funding
- 1:22:41before they can follow the food,
- 1:22:43food pyramid.
- 1:22:44I'm sure.
- 1:22:47For us, like we,
- 1:22:48I run a breakfast program at my high
- 1:22:50school.
- 1:22:51So I do all of the ordering of
- 1:22:53the food and we get like,
- 1:22:57almost fifteen thousand dollars that i go
- 1:22:59get in government funding for breakfast
- 1:23:02programs and almost every school has this
- 1:23:04and we can only have certain foods that
- 1:23:06we order and it has to have like
- 1:23:07a green check mark that says that it's
- 1:23:10part of the uh nutrition school programs
- 1:23:13and it can't have a certain i think
- 1:23:16every food item needs to have less than
- 1:23:19five or six grams of sugar in it
- 1:23:22um and like every every breakfast and like
- 1:23:24we have to have protein that's put out
- 1:23:28some sort of fruit it could be also
- 1:23:31a like go-go squeeze or something like a
- 1:23:35pouch like but like we have we have
- 1:23:38like all like these standards but yeah
- 1:23:40we're it's it's nice that like our
- 1:23:42government funds quite a bit the breakfast
- 1:23:45programs like those are really really
- 1:23:47important in schools across that says it's
- 1:23:50canadian dollars though so only like two
- 1:23:51hundred bucks yeah um
- 1:23:56Here's where I think there is a change,
- 1:23:57Eric.
- 1:23:58Healthier food is more expensive.
- 1:23:59There has to be a way to make
- 1:24:00it more available to all and cheaper.
- 1:24:03That's the point of the government saying
- 1:24:05these are the necessary foods.
- 1:24:07It then makes those foods things that you
- 1:24:11supplement and that you give funding to
- 1:24:16grow and to have available.
- 1:24:21That's why this flip is important.
- 1:24:24It makes those things cheaper.
- 1:24:29Um, I think it's important.
- 1:24:31I think they also need to mandate more
- 1:24:33physical education in schools.
- 1:24:35See,
- 1:24:35I grew up in a time where like
- 1:24:37we had phys ed like three times a
- 1:24:38week, um, for an hour at a time.
- 1:24:41Yeah, we have it every day,
- 1:24:44but only grade nine is the last year
- 1:24:47that it's mandatory to do phys ed grade
- 1:24:49ten, eleven, twelve.
- 1:24:51They no longer like it's not a requirement
- 1:24:54to take phys ed, which is crazy.
- 1:24:56We had to have it every year.
- 1:24:58We could get a waiver if we were
- 1:24:59an athlete.
- 1:25:02Because we were practicing our sport five
- 1:25:04days a week.
- 1:25:05But you only got a waiver during that
- 1:25:07season.
- 1:25:07So if you only played one of the
- 1:25:09three seasons,
- 1:25:10you only got a waiver for that season.
- 1:25:17Interesting.
- 1:25:17Yeah.
- 1:25:23Um, one more super from Tony.
- 1:25:25Have you ever thought about doing the
- 1:25:27Spartan super or beast?
- 1:25:28They're running sandbags, monkey bars,
- 1:25:30pegboard, log lift.
- 1:25:33So I've done like warrior dashes and, um,
- 1:25:37other versions of that in the past.
- 1:25:40And I really enjoyed them.
- 1:25:43So, yeah, I'm all about them.
- 1:25:45Anything that gets you out.
- 1:25:46I love, like, obstacle course stuff.
- 1:25:49Yeah.
- 1:25:51There was, like, a Tough Mudder, like,
- 1:25:53world mile before.
- 1:25:55I love that.
- 1:25:57The top of the CrossFit pyramid is play
- 1:25:59other sports.
- 1:26:01And that's a great one to go out
- 1:26:02and do as something else.
- 1:26:04Yeah.
- 1:26:10All right,
- 1:26:10I think the comments are coming in so
- 1:26:13fast to keep up with,
- 1:26:15but I think this is a good place
- 1:26:16to end it tonight.
- 1:26:18It's been an amazing sports weekend.
- 1:26:20I did not sleep at all this weekend
- 1:26:22because of the Bears win,
- 1:26:23and so I have my pre-op appointment for
- 1:26:28both my biopsy and my sinus surgery this
- 1:26:32Tuesday,
- 1:26:33and I have to go get some blood
- 1:26:34drawn tomorrow morning,
- 1:26:35so I'm going to call it for the
- 1:26:36night.
- 1:26:38I have the frostbite relay,
- 1:26:40the one in Holland.
- 1:26:40Not the country, but the city.
- 1:26:45Yeah.
- 1:26:45Holland, the city.
- 1:26:46Yeah.
- 1:26:46Holland, Michigan over there on the water.
- 1:26:49So that's Sunday.
- 1:26:50I will very likely not be on on
- 1:26:54Sunday.
- 1:26:55Yeah.
- 1:26:55I don't know when the bears are playing
- 1:26:57next weekend.
- 1:26:58So everybody stay tuned.
- 1:27:00Yeah.
- 1:27:01I mean,
- 1:27:01my bears don't make the playoffs very
- 1:27:02often.
- 1:27:03They don't win very often.
- 1:27:05I'm going to make sure that I can
- 1:27:07enjoy that game.
- 1:27:08Cool.
- 1:27:10So if it's Sunday night,
- 1:27:10we'll probably delay or go another night.
- 1:27:14Okay.
- 1:27:16It hopefully won't be as cold this year
- 1:27:18in Holland, Michigan.
- 1:27:19It looks like like twenty two degrees.
- 1:27:21I don't even know that it's going to
- 1:27:22be like crazy snow or anything.
- 1:27:24I think I think we might have a
- 1:27:25decent year.
- 1:27:26If you weren't with us last year,
- 1:27:29Jamie had icicles coming off her nose.
- 1:27:31Yeah.
- 1:27:33So for that,
- 1:27:36do what Eric Mackey says and hit that
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- 1:27:41We really appreciate the algorithm helps
- 1:27:42us out so, so much.
- 1:27:44Drink your Thursday.
- 1:27:47Waiting all day for Sunday night.
- 1:27:48I will be if they play Sunday night.
- 1:27:50I just,
- 1:27:51I don't think they've announced the
- 1:27:52schedule yet until this game's done
- 1:27:54tonight.
- 1:27:58So anyway, with that, guys, hey,
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