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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hi, Amber.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Hi, Lola.
- 0:03Speaker 1: Welcome to An Unlikely Affair. Hello, my loves. Welcome back
- 0:11Speaker 1: to another episode of An Unlikely Affair. Amber, you're in studio.
- 0:16Speaker 1: I know. Like two weeks in a row.
- 0:18Speaker 3: It's amazing.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Two weeks in a row, but it's going to be
- 0:19Speaker 1: all weeks in a row.
- 0:20Speaker 4: It is.
- 0:21Speaker 1: That's right, baby. How do you feel about that? I
- 0:24Speaker 1: don't know. No, about the studio, I'm excited about. But
- 0:26Speaker 1: just the reasoning behind why you're going to be in
- 0:29Speaker 1: the studio all the time. How do I.
- 0:33Speaker 1: I'm processing.
- 0:35Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Yeah, I am.
- 0:37Speaker 6: It's funny, like, being here, I want to be back
- 0:39Speaker 6: in Montana, which I could still obviously go back because
- 0:42Speaker 6: I have my place there, but still it's... I'm re-acclimating.
- 0:46Speaker 1: It's freaking hot. Let me tell you something. I feel
- 0:48Speaker 1: like I could be walking around naked because that's how
- 0:50Speaker 1: hot I am. It's just insane. I was at a
- 0:53Speaker 1: birthday party for... One of Ocean's friends, obviously Ocean was
- 0:57Speaker 1: there too. It wasn't just me at Ocean's friend's birthday party.
- 1:00Speaker 1: But it was like 105 degrees. No, it's ridiculous. It's
- 1:04Speaker 1: not okay.
- 1:05Speaker 6: So I'm staying at another friend's house when I like
- 1:09Speaker 6: woke up in the middle of the night and like
- 1:11Speaker 6: drenched in sweat. I had to put like extra layers
- 1:14Speaker 6: of deodorant on this morning.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Because you've been a stinky lady. I have been. I
- 1:19Speaker 1: know that feeling because I get to be a stinky
- 1:21Speaker 1: lady and it only happens when I am under severe
- 1:25Speaker 1: pressure and stress. You know what?
- 1:27Speaker 6: I also woke up and found a massive cyst under
- 1:30Speaker 6: my armpit.
- 1:31Speaker 1: So I was like on chat, GBT. Don't do that.
- 1:34Speaker 4: Why?
- 1:34Speaker 1: Because it's going to tell you you have some like
- 1:38Speaker 1: horrendous thing. Wait, that makes me nervous. Does it move around?
- 1:41Speaker 1: It does. So when I was.
- 1:43Speaker 6: Like 14 or 15, I used to always get cysts
- 1:46Speaker 6: underneath my armpit, and I think that's what it is.
- 1:48Speaker 1: But I haven't had one in so many years. I
- 1:51Speaker 1: have no idea. It's probably like stress or what did
- 1:54Speaker 1: ChatGPT said? Could it be a swollen lymph node?
- 1:57Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Or it could be that too. Yeah.
- 2:00Speaker 6: So the reason why you have swollen lymph nodes, according
- 2:03Speaker 6: to Chat, is because it's like your body's fighting off
- 2:06Speaker 6: like an infection.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Or an ingrown hair. I do not have an ingrown hair.
- 2:10Speaker 4: No, no, no.
- 2:10Speaker 1: You know what? I could see it if I had
- 2:12Speaker 1: an ingrown hair. I don't feel like it would be
- 2:15Speaker 1: a lump under the skin. Did you? You're like, that can't.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Process of elimination on chat.
- 2:20Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's like really, it's really, it's really small.
- 2:23Speaker 6: I had the picture in chat, not on my camera.
- 2:25Speaker 1: I would like you to go get an ultrasound or something.
- 2:28Speaker 1: When do I have time to get an ultrasound? Your
- 2:30Speaker 1: health is priority. Without our health, we have nothing. And
- 2:33Speaker 1: I really, my mom has always told me that. And
- 2:35Speaker 1: then when she started going through all of her health
- 2:38Speaker 1: issues after her hip surgery, I was like, wow, it
- 2:40Speaker 1: is so true. Without our health, we have nothing.
- 2:43Speaker 6: I know. I really want to go get a scan.
- 2:45Speaker 6: I think that that would be good.
- 2:46Speaker 1: You know, I did the full-body prenuvo, full-body MRI. Best
- 2:52Speaker 1: thing I ever did. You probably just sleep better at
- 2:54Speaker 1: night now knowing that you're in good health.
- 2:56Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 2:58Speaker 1: I think it will have been a year since my
- 3:01Speaker 1: last one in September, and I'm fully hitting them up
- 3:03Speaker 1: to schedule my next one. I'm going to do it
- 3:06Speaker 1: every year. You should. It just makes me feel better.
- 3:10Speaker 1: You know, I think I also.
- 3:11Speaker 6: Know because my boobies are, like, really swollen. So it
- 3:15Speaker 6: just might be something.
- 3:17Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 3:18Speaker 1: The body. The female body. It tells you.
- 3:21Speaker 6: I'm under a lot of stress right now, too. So
- 3:22Speaker 6: I think that's probably what it is to my body reacting.
- 3:25Speaker 6: I think this calls for a massage.
- 3:27Speaker 1: I have a great girl. How was your massage the
- 3:29Speaker 1: other day? 180 with tip, 90 minutes.
- 3:32Speaker 3: Oh.
- 3:32Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 3:33Speaker 1: That's good. And she comes to your house?
- 3:34Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Yeah. Hot rocks, the whole bit. Oh, I love that. Yeah.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Will she do a little tie, like step on your back? Oh, yeah.
- 3:42Speaker 1: You feel her get onto the table and she's like,
- 3:45Speaker 1: give me your arms. And then you like, give. That
- 3:47Speaker 1: is the best.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Like, F me up. You fuck me up, Vicky. I'm down.
- 3:53Speaker 1: The best way. I'm excited that you're going to be here.
- 3:57Speaker 1: I know it's going to be a huge adjustment, even
- 3:59Speaker 1: though you spent most of your life here.
- 4:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:01Speaker 1: There is nothing... like the serenity that Montana brings. Like
- 4:06Speaker 1: your setup is amazing. But again, you're making the move
- 4:11Speaker 1: for your kid. Your kid wants to be here. She
- 4:12Speaker 1: wants to be going to school here. So it just
- 4:15Speaker 1: goes to show that a mother will change up her
- 4:20Speaker 1: whole life for her children. Before we get into voicemails,
- 4:26Speaker 1: can I read you guys something that I got this weekend?
- 4:28Speaker 4: Oh, yes.
- 4:30Speaker 1: So I've been talking to this guy. And he sends
- 4:33Speaker 1: me a message basically asking like what I require, okay,
- 4:38Speaker 1: from a man. And I tell him that I require time, consistency,
- 4:47Speaker 1: and communication. And keep in mind, he's been like very
- 4:53Speaker 1: all up on it, right? I want to fight for
- 4:56Speaker 1: your love. I want to do this, whatever. Right.
- 4:58Speaker 4: Show me.
- 4:59Speaker 1: Show me. Let's talk about it. Let's see what you're
- 5:02Speaker 1: willing to do. Because I require things that are very
- 5:05Speaker 1: hard for a man to give. They sound simple. They're
- 5:08Speaker 1: not so simple. This is his response to me. What
- 5:13Speaker 1: does that come with? Reciprocation, question mark. You're a single
- 5:17Speaker 1: mother of two. How does that happen? Keep in mind,
- 5:20Speaker 1: my previous message was his time, communication, and consistency. I said,
- 5:25Speaker 1: what do you mean by reciprocation? Like, will I give
- 5:27Speaker 1: those same things back? Yes, I'm a single mother of two.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Is there a follow-up to that? How does what happen?
- 5:34Speaker 1: I'm asking, how do you have time for a man respectfully? Like,
- 5:39Speaker 1: I believe being a mom is the biggest job on
- 5:41Speaker 1: the planet. How can you find time to disperse love
- 5:44Speaker 1: when your priorities are your princesses? I wanted to fall
- 5:49Speaker 1: out of my fucking chair. Well, let me ask you, buddy.
- 5:52Speaker 1: You're a single dad. How do you find time to
- 5:54Speaker 1: disperse love between your child and someone that you're talking to? Oh, wait.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Men get to do whatever the fuck they want, right?
- 6:04Speaker 1: It falls on the mom. What do you mean, how
- 6:07Speaker 1: do I find the time? And he's a single dad?
- 6:10Speaker 1: Or he's a dad?
- 6:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Wow. My heart is pounding right now because I did
- 6:15Speaker 1: not even know what to say. He just showed his
- 6:18Speaker 1: true colors. We will not be speaking again. But thank God.
- 6:22Speaker 1: We're good. We're good here. Because you're a fucking idiot.
- 6:25Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. That's crazy. My
- 6:29Speaker 1: response was, well, that's why I've been single for so long.
- 6:34Speaker 1: And I just know that it will happen the way
- 6:37Speaker 1: it's supposed to when God intends. I love that. What
- 6:40Speaker 1: do you mean? I was shocked. So, yes, you do
- 6:45Speaker 1: things for your children. We as mothers do things for
- 6:47Speaker 1: our children.
- 6:47Speaker 3: We do.
- 6:48Speaker 1: We put our own lives on the back burner when
- 6:50Speaker 1: it comes to our kids while most men go out
- 6:55Speaker 1: and get to live their life and their children just
- 6:59Speaker 1: happen to appear on their time and then they go
- 7:01Speaker 1: about their business while we're trying to figure out where
- 7:04Speaker 1: the fuck we're going to live. In a very short
- 7:07Speaker 1: period of time. Like a week and a half.
- 7:09Speaker 7: Yep.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Just so our kids can go to the fucking school
- 7:13Speaker 1: they want.
- 7:13Speaker 4: To go to.
- 7:13Speaker 7: And you know what?
- 7:14Speaker 1: That's what you sign up when you become a mom.
- 7:16Speaker 2: All right.
- 7:17Speaker 1: I think we have some voicemails. Yeah, we do. Let's
- 7:18Speaker 1: get into it.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Hi.
- 7:20Speaker 8: I'm obsessed with all of you. Especially Lisa. Lisa.
- 7:24Speaker 9: Amber.
- 7:24Speaker 8: Lala.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Easton.
- 7:25Speaker 9: Sosa.
- 7:26Speaker 8: Ocean. All of them.
- 7:27Speaker 10: I love you guys.
- 7:28Speaker 8: Anyway, I have a complete narcissist ex, and I felt
- 7:33Speaker 8: like you guys could relate to this, so... He had
- 7:35Speaker 8: me arrested, sent me to jail because he said I
- 7:38Speaker 8: scratched him. I did scratch him, but it was a
- 7:42Speaker 8: complete accident. However, had me arrested for domestic violence. He's
- 7:45Speaker 8: an attorney, knew the.
- 7:46Speaker 10: Judge, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 7:48Speaker 11: Had me evicted, whatever.
- 7:49Speaker 8: Find my own place.
- 7:51Speaker 11: We're separated.
- 7:52Speaker 8: Life goes on. We agree on the terms between us.
- 7:58Speaker 8: So now, three years later, this man is coming to me.
- 8:01Speaker 8: Three years he's been paying me money. And now all
- 8:04Speaker 8: of a sudden he said, I'm not paying you unless
- 8:07Speaker 8: basically you.
- 8:07Speaker 10: Have sex with me. And I'm like, what?
- 8:12Speaker 8: You think I'm going to have sex with you after
- 8:14Speaker 8: you're a dirty, dirty man? Oh, and Lala, I'm so
- 8:17Speaker 8: sorry to say this. And probably Amber too. He's a
- 8:20Speaker 8: lot older than me.
- 8:21Speaker 11: I am 33, 57.
- 8:21Speaker 4: I know, I know, I know.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Idiot.
- 8:26Speaker 10: Idiot.
- 8:28Speaker 8: Anyway, what do I do? Now he's holding money over
- 8:32Speaker 8: my head and I mean, I can go to court.
- 8:35Speaker 8: It's going to take forever. He's an attorney. He has
- 8:37Speaker 8: to waste out of this. You guys know how the
- 8:39Speaker 8: system is. He can say, oh, you know what? I'm
- 8:42Speaker 8: not making as much anymore. When that motherfucker makes so
- 8:44Speaker 8: much on paper. I love you guys. You guys are
- 8:47Speaker 8: the best. I cannot wait to hear the pod.
- 8:49Speaker 4: Bye.
- 8:50Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's anything worse than a
- 8:52Speaker 1: man having his hands around your neck financially. Yeah. That is,
- 8:58Speaker 1: that sounds fucking intense. And I, I would rather live
- 9:02Speaker 1: in a box in peace.
- 9:04Speaker 6: Well, first of all, just because he's an attorney and
- 9:06Speaker 6: knows the judge doesn't give him the right to like,
- 9:09Speaker 6: it should be illegal, what he's doing, right? Is using
- 9:12Speaker 6: his authority of being a lawyer and knowing the judge that.
- 9:15Speaker 1: They, that's wrong.
- 9:17Speaker 6: Actually, I don't even think you're allowed to go in
- 9:19Speaker 6: front of a judge if you have a personal relationship
- 9:21Speaker 6: with him.
- 9:22Speaker 1: That's the other thing.
- 9:24Speaker 6: And it's also coercive control, like controlling someone by the
- 9:27Speaker 6: use of money. So yes, I think that's a good idea. Like,
- 9:30Speaker 6: just go get a, I know it's a lot harder
- 9:32Speaker 6: to say than just go get a job, but that
- 9:35Speaker 6: sounds scary.
- 9:36Speaker 1: It is scary. And here's what I realized when I
- 9:41Speaker 1: entered this world is that it's not a logical system
- 9:48Speaker 1: and it's not quick and it's a lot of money to,
- 9:55Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about, okay, well, I can hire
- 9:57Speaker 1: an attorney and I can come after him, but that attorney,
- 10:00Speaker 1: is going to charge you hundreds of dollars an hour
- 10:03Speaker 1: before you even see a judge, which then I would
- 10:07Speaker 1: assume you would go into litigation, which is thousands, tens
- 10:11Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars. And you don't know how it's
- 10:15Speaker 1: going to turn out. And at the end of the day,
- 10:17Speaker 1: I think that The system is not designed to hero
- 10:22Speaker 1: protect women because we're looked at as scorned or gold
- 10:25Speaker 1: diggers or we're emotional or we may be on our
- 10:29Speaker 1: period or like we have so many things stacked against us.
- 10:33Speaker 1: And that's why I just think it sounds easier. First
- 10:37Speaker 1: of all, the narcissist, it's so crazy how they work
- 10:40Speaker 1: because they're so believable because they believe what they're saying.
- 10:46Speaker 1: So they're very convincing. I'm sure he was doing his
- 10:49Speaker 1: best work when he was like, She scratched me in
- 10:52Speaker 1: this sort of manner. I'm sure he was very convincing. Sociopathic.
- 10:56Speaker 1: That is insane. Totally. And can keep his cool, too,
- 10:59Speaker 1: where she was probably heightened because she's a normal person
- 11:03Speaker 1: with a normal reaction. Yeah, I mean, she could go
- 11:06Speaker 1: get a restraining order. That's what— That's what I would do.
- 11:10Speaker 6: Because for me, hearing that, I would be like, okay,
- 11:13Speaker 6: I'm afraid for my life. Because now he's saying, if
- 11:15Speaker 6: I'm not intimate with him, then he will not pay me.
- 11:20Speaker 6: And then even if still, if I say no, then
- 11:22Speaker 6: what happens? Then it's going to enrage him even more.
- 11:25Speaker 1: I would not communicate with him over the phone at all.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Everything needs to be in writing.
- 11:32Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Which he is probably a smart guy, but I would 100%
- 11:36Speaker 1: start getting my ducks in a row as far as
- 11:39Speaker 1: being financially independent. So you can say, have a great life.
- 11:43Speaker 1: We're done here. I need nothing from you. Goodbye. But
- 11:47Speaker 1: you got to have everything in writing.
- 11:49Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 11:49Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 11:50Speaker 7: Okay.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Next one. Otherwise, just start blasting this mother on socials.
- 11:55Speaker 1: Just send us his picture. We'll help you. For real.
- 11:59Speaker 1: You know, I love a good photo with a blast.
- 12:02Speaker 1: It's the best.
- 12:03Speaker 4: So my unhinged story is when I was 16 years old,
- 12:08Speaker 4: there was a man who was about 36, 37 years
- 12:11Speaker 4: old that lived across the street. He was married. He
- 12:14Speaker 4: was a biker in a Harley gang. And he, I
- 12:18Speaker 4: was actually 17, almost 18. And that was his thing that,
- 12:22Speaker 4: you know, after everything was found out that, He was like, oh,
- 12:25Speaker 4: she was almost legal. And that was his reasoning. Now
- 12:28Speaker 4: that I'm an adult in my 40s, I realized that
- 12:31Speaker 4: he was a pedo. You know what I'm saying? But anyway,
- 12:34Speaker 4: so started just being nice to me, buying me little gifts,
- 12:39Speaker 4: coming around, picking me up from school and stuff like that.
- 12:42Speaker 4: And I was living with a single father at the
- 12:45Speaker 4: time who just thought he was being nice. Apparently he
- 12:47Speaker 4: didn't protect me either. But started a small affair with
- 12:53Speaker 4: And it was found out. And this man had me
- 12:56Speaker 4: propped up on we were going to get married, have
- 12:58Speaker 4: kids and have a farm and everything else. And I
- 13:01Speaker 4: share this because, you know, nowadays, girls or younger girls
- 13:06Speaker 4: are glamorized to, you know, get an older man, get
- 13:09Speaker 4: a sugar daddy. And in the words of Lala, I
- 13:12Speaker 4: am the husband. You don't need it. If you want it, great.
- 13:16Speaker 8: But don't chase it.
- 13:17Speaker 4: And sure as hell realize that these older men, some
- 13:20Speaker 4: of them are out here with bad intentions. They will lie,
- 13:23Speaker 4: cheat and steal even with their own wives and get
- 13:27Speaker 4: found out and still deny you and deny everything. So
- 13:31Speaker 4: that is my unhinged story.
- 13:34Speaker 6: These are making me so sick to my stomach.
- 13:36Speaker 1: I'm so sad. It's so sad. Really? I'm feeling the opposite.
- 13:43Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm fired up. Oh my gosh. I.
- 13:48Speaker 1: By the way, she said it was unhinged. I found
- 13:51Speaker 1: that to be freaking fantastic. And the reason I talk
- 13:57Speaker 1: about this so much, and I'm usually met from idiots, obviously,
- 14:02Speaker 1: who don't have two brain cells to put a thought together.
- 14:05Speaker 1: You need to get over it and move on. Whereas
- 14:09Speaker 1: you can understand, I'm like, we have to talk about
- 14:12Speaker 1: these things. There's a younger generation that's coming into their
- 14:16Speaker 1: own and they're going to think I got an older
- 14:19Speaker 1: man because I'm so mature. And you think it's like
- 14:23Speaker 1: a win. Oh, and he has money. Now, if you
- 14:26Speaker 1: know the drill and you're like, I'm willing to do
- 14:28Speaker 1: the exchange. Yeah. By all means, go for it. That's
- 14:33Speaker 1: a self-conscious thought.
- 14:34Speaker 4: Yes.
- 14:35Speaker 1: When someone who's much older, I mean, this, the girl
- 14:38Speaker 1: who left the message is not, was not even legal.
- 14:41Speaker 1: So this guy was for sure a A sick mother,
- 14:45Speaker 1: you know?
- 14:46Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
- 14:47Speaker 1: But these girls, I remember trying to help this girl
- 14:52Speaker 1: get sober. And she was probably 23 at the time.
- 14:54Speaker 1: And she was dating a much older man. And she
- 14:56Speaker 1: thought that she was so mature. And I had just
- 14:58Speaker 1: gone through everything with our shared person. And I was like,
- 15:02Speaker 1: listen to me. He wants control over you. That's why
- 15:06Speaker 1: they go for the young girls because I'm not trying
- 15:08Speaker 1: to be rude, but we're dumb at 23. Yeah. We're stupid.
- 15:11Speaker 1: We're moldable. We believe things. We haven't had enough life
- 15:15Speaker 1: experience to scar us. Guess what? It's happening. This man
- 15:19Speaker 1: is going to change your whole life and the way
- 15:20Speaker 1: you go about your life and how you look at men,
- 15:22Speaker 1: how you look at people.
- 15:23Speaker 6: I just had this conversation with my mom on the
- 15:25Speaker 6: way here. I was FaceTiming her and she was asking me,
- 15:28Speaker 6: I went out on a date this weekend and I said.
- 15:30Speaker 1: I really, I really like this guy a lot.
- 15:34Speaker 6: But I just, I can't even let myself, I'm just so,
- 15:39Speaker 6: I don't want to say damaged, that's not the right word,
- 15:41Speaker 6: because I'm not damaged.
- 15:42Speaker 1: I've done a lot of work.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Experienced.
- 15:43Speaker 6: But I just move super cautiously now where I'm not,
- 15:49Speaker 6: and maybe that's how, that's quote normal, the way I'm moving.
- 15:52Speaker 6: But like in my 20s, when I first met, well,
- 15:55Speaker 6: I was 17 when I met Randy.
- 15:58Speaker 1: When I met, I was just not experienced. I thought
- 16:00Speaker 1: I knew everything. I thought I knew everything. I'm an
- 16:03Speaker 1: old soul. I was like, this is what I want.
- 16:06Speaker 1: You just have to just pause.
- 16:08Speaker 6: Like before, you had to just move very methodical in
- 16:13Speaker 6: life when you get to at least my age.
- 16:17Speaker 4: Yes.
- 16:18Speaker 1: But if there's anything that I hope younger girls who
- 16:22Speaker 1: are in their 20s take, because we spoke about this
- 16:27Speaker 1: on the bonus of Untraditionally La La. The best advice
- 16:31Speaker 1: that we've ever received. And I talked about how, you know,
- 16:34Speaker 1: you have to touch the stove in order to have
- 16:36Speaker 1: life experiences. You take all the epic advice from older people,
- 16:40Speaker 1: you're never going to live. You live a pretty safe life, right?
- 16:44Speaker 1: This is the one topic where I'm like, you need
- 16:48Speaker 1: to listen. Because... I would not wish the situation that
- 16:55Speaker 1: you were put in, I was put in, other women
- 16:58Speaker 1: have been put in, and it's very easy from a
- 17:00Speaker 1: distance to blame the chick and be like, oh, well,
- 17:03Speaker 1: you were old enough to know better, or you did
- 17:05Speaker 1: that to yourself, or you lose them how you get them.
- 17:08Speaker 1: It's so beyond that, unless you've been put in the
- 17:10Speaker 1: situation and you feel like you're in a washing machine, right?
- 17:15Speaker 1: You have to move carefully because these older sick men
- 17:22Speaker 1: will fuck your whole life up. They will.
- 17:25Speaker 6: And the other thing is having access on these phones
- 17:28Speaker 6: that we have, it's changed the game, not just for
- 17:32Speaker 6: the teenagers, not just raising children for adults too. Like
- 17:36Speaker 6: I remember when I went into this rehab and they said,
- 17:39Speaker 6: we are going to see more people, men and women
- 17:43Speaker 6: come in for sex addiction than, than any other addiction
- 17:46Speaker 6: because of the phones.
- 17:50Speaker 1: Because of the access. Think about it.
- 17:51Speaker 6: Like it's at their fingertips. So it's like we've made
- 17:54Speaker 6: ourselves sick pretty much.
- 17:56Speaker 2: So I have the best story. I live in New York,
- 18:02Speaker 2: so I'm three hours ahead of you guys. My boyfriend,
- 18:08Speaker 2: the guy that I've been dating for six years, got
- 18:12Speaker 2: back with his ex-wife, who he's been divorced for, I
- 18:17Speaker 2: want to say, 10 to 15 years. Overtime, yeah, it
- 18:21Speaker 2: has to be around 15 years. It's the craziest scenario.
- 18:25Speaker 2: The proposal was insane. And two days after he proposed
- 18:31Speaker 2: to her, we're still.
- 18:33Speaker 8: Seeing each other.
- 18:34Speaker 2: This is comical, if I tell you from the beginning
- 18:40Speaker 2: until now.
- 18:41Speaker 3: It's six years.
- 18:42Speaker 1: It's insanity. I love New Yorkers. They're the best. No,
- 18:47Speaker 1: but they have to be from, like, Long Island. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 18:50Speaker 1: I don't need a Manhattan bitch. I'm talking real New York.
- 18:54Speaker 1: New Jersey. Yes. Yeah. Wait, hold on. So let me let...
- 18:58Speaker 1: She said that she was with a guy for six years.
- 19:00Speaker 1: They broke up. He found a new girl. They got engaged.
- 19:03Speaker 7: No, no, no.
- 19:03Speaker 4: I missed.
- 19:04Speaker 1: He went back to his ex-wife.
- 19:06Speaker 3: Oh!
- 19:07Speaker 1: But he is still with this Lisa chick. So goes
- 19:11Speaker 1: back with his ex-wife and does a big proposal again? Yes.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Is that what she said?
- 19:15Speaker 2: Yes.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Oh, we've got a narcissist on our hands, people. I mean,
- 19:18Speaker 1: what is going on? Can you imagine? Like, I am
- 19:23Speaker 1: so baffled, but I'm not. Because you hear stories like
- 19:26Speaker 1: this all the time. I know. It's insane. Like, I'm
- 19:30Speaker 1: pretty sure after my engagement party... He went and did
- 19:35Speaker 1: whatever he felt like. Can you imagine? It is comical.
- 19:39Speaker 1: When you really think about it, you're like, what? Can
- 19:42Speaker 1: you imagine if we acted like that as women? You're
- 19:45Speaker 1: a hole from the north is what they'd say i'm
- 19:47Speaker 1: watching game of thrones again by the way.
- 19:52Speaker 5: I just can't believe it and you know what listening
- 19:56Speaker 5: let me tell you something because i know most of
- 19:58Speaker 5: my listeners are women If my girls, my listeners, my
- 20:02Speaker 5: writer dies, listen to these voicemails and place any.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Judgment on the women. This sweet woman from Long Island.
- 20:10Speaker 1: If anyone judges her, I will be furious. Yes, of course.
- 20:15Speaker 1: Who would judge her? By the way, who would judge her? Well,
- 20:19Speaker 1: first of all. Women are brutal. Women are brutal.
- 20:22Speaker 6: I think where the only judgment can come in is
- 20:24Speaker 6: knowing like, okay, you know that he's back with his ex-wife,
- 20:27Speaker 6: but you're still choosing to sleep.
- 20:30Speaker 1: With him right you know what i say get it
- 20:32Speaker 1: girls i think they should team up they should team
- 20:36Speaker 1: up oh that the ex-wife and the yeah it's like
- 20:39Speaker 1: i don't really want to i don't really want to
- 20:41Speaker 1: blow bob tonight like can you handle yeah i got
- 20:44Speaker 1: it i.
- 20:45Speaker 6: Got it tag team tag team i love that throw
- 20:49Speaker 6: some funds into the mix oh put it in a pot.
- 20:54Speaker 1: Oh, and just really mess with him?
- 20:56Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 20:56Speaker 1: That's my dream. Like, that is my dream. My love,
- 20:59Speaker 1: we're doing it. Oh, yeah, that's right. We're here doing
- 21:04Speaker 1: it right now. Watch what next week's episode holds. Okay,
- 21:13Speaker 1: next one.
- 21:14Speaker 11: Hi, Lala and Amber. My name is Elizabeth, and I
- 21:18Speaker 11: am just fascinated by your relationship.
- 21:20Speaker 10: But not just that.
- 21:22Speaker 11: I'm also in awe of the love you both have
- 21:24Speaker 11: for each other. And I am so curious about that
- 21:27Speaker 11: penultimate moment when you guys looked at each other and
- 21:31Speaker 11: knew this was beyond anything to do with your ex
- 21:34Speaker 11: and was now about a beautiful new friendship.
- 21:39Speaker 10: I was the Amber in my marriage.
- 21:40Speaker 11: And so watching Amber embrace Lala blows me away and
- 21:45Speaker 11: makes me want to be a better version of myself.
- 21:48Speaker 11: I also want to add that I adore you, Lala.
- 21:50Speaker 11: I always feel like I would totally want to be
- 21:52Speaker 11: friends with you, but not in a creepy way, I promise. Anyway,
- 21:55Speaker 11: I just think you're both amazing women, raising your own
- 21:58Speaker 11: amazing little women.
- 21:59Speaker 1: Oh, I love her. She's so sweet. That was really sweet.
- 22:03Speaker 6: I think I knew very early on that it had
- 22:05Speaker 6: nothing to do with our ex, because I know through
- 22:10Speaker 6: experiences that we had together that I.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Just know the way he moves and... I think it took,
- 22:19Speaker 1: I think it was a lot.
- 22:19Speaker 6: Of little moments that built this. It wasn't just one
- 22:24Speaker 6: like major turning point. It's kind of like we were
- 22:27Speaker 6: saying earlier, like you could say, a guy could say
- 22:30Speaker 6: that he likes you, wants to be with you. It's like, okay,
- 22:33Speaker 6: now show me. And I think in our relationship and
- 22:35Speaker 6: developing any relationship is like, I just stayed curious and
- 22:40Speaker 6: opened my heart to.
- 22:44Speaker 1: To who you were, right?
- 22:45Speaker 6: And to, like, your entire family, right? Because you— obviously, you're
- 22:48Speaker 6: a package still.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Yes, very much so. I mean, I— even though there were
- 22:57Speaker 1: times that, like, I was angry at you, it was
- 23:02Speaker 1: only because of what I was hearing, right? Mm-hmm. So
- 23:07Speaker 1: it wasn't anything that you were doing. It was in my— bubble,
- 23:12Speaker 1: I was told that you made things very difficult. And
- 23:17Speaker 1: obviously now, because this is what God does, well, now
- 23:22Speaker 1: I'm going to put the shoe on the other foot
- 23:24Speaker 1: for you and you're going to see what it feels like.
- 23:29Speaker 1: And so my eyes were opened and I had deep
- 23:35Speaker 1: sadness and regret for the things that I turned a
- 23:39Speaker 1: blind eye to whether that was intentional or unintentional. You know,
- 23:43Speaker 1: I guess it depends on who you ask. Since we're
- 23:46Speaker 1: asking me, I think we've spoken about this before. To
- 23:51Speaker 1: numb my gut, I would drink more. And then I
- 23:57Speaker 1: listened and believed. And I think that's why I have
- 23:59Speaker 1: a really hard time trusting myself now and trusting other
- 24:02Speaker 1: people because I don't really know if what someone's saying
- 24:05Speaker 1: is truthful. Is my gut talking to me or is
- 24:07Speaker 1: my trauma talking to me? What I know for sure
- 24:11Speaker 1: is the moment that you and I started talking on
- 24:14Speaker 1: the phone, there was a sense of peace that was
- 24:17Speaker 1: brought to me that I hadn't felt in a really
- 24:20Speaker 1: long time in the darkest moment of my life. I
- 24:23Speaker 1: felt like even though we were still getting to know
- 24:25Speaker 1: each other, I wasn't in it by myself. I had
- 24:28Speaker 1: a partner in crime. And I think back to the voicemail,
- 24:32Speaker 1: it was like, It did start with us just talking
- 24:36Speaker 1: about our custody situation and things like that. And it
- 24:39Speaker 1: was solely about that. And then it was that mostly,
- 24:44Speaker 1: but then it was like, oh, I have a date.
- 24:46Speaker 1: And then all of this sudden as time passed, it
- 24:48Speaker 1: was like, it's only about our sadness, our trauma that
- 24:53Speaker 1: even though maybe it came from him, it had nothing
- 24:57Speaker 1: to do with him anymore because it's what we were
- 24:59Speaker 1: carrying into other relationships and just life. I've told you
- 25:04Speaker 1: I've never been more vulnerable with really any friendship than
- 25:10Speaker 1: I have with you. Well, I'm very grateful for the affair.
- 25:16Speaker 4: I am.
- 25:17Speaker 7: I am.
- 25:18Speaker 1: As hard as it is to say that, it needed
- 25:24Speaker 1: to happen.
- 25:24Speaker 6: I've said this again, and I'll say it forever. It
- 25:27Speaker 6: saved my life because I wanted to die. I really
- 25:30Speaker 6: was in such a dark place, and I didn't know
- 25:32Speaker 6: how to get out. And now my life, I could
- 25:37Speaker 6: have never imagined this ever in a million years. Like,
- 25:42Speaker 6: you can't make this up. And this just shows you, like,
- 25:45Speaker 6: my higher power, he knows what he's doing.
- 25:47Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 25:47Speaker 6: And, like, I am so, so grateful for the moment that,
- 25:53Speaker 6: you know, it all went down. Because even in the
- 25:56Speaker 6: darkest moments, like, there.
- 25:57Speaker 1: Is light at the end of the tunnel. And this
- 25:59Speaker 1: is the light.
- 26:00Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 26:00Speaker 1: Being here with you.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 26:02Speaker 6: Building what we're building, going through all of life's ups
- 26:05Speaker 6: and downs and dealing with kids and dating and relationships
- 26:09Speaker 6: and our families and.
- 26:12Speaker 1: Just all of it. It's fucking, it's amazing. It really is.
- 26:18Speaker 1: We always talk about how when something doesn't make sense,
- 26:22Speaker 1: there will be a moment that it makes sense. And
- 26:25Speaker 1: I think about that and then I see ocean. I
- 26:28Speaker 1: see see you, I see Sosa. And I'm like, it all,
- 26:33Speaker 1: there was just a plan. Oh, a hundred percent. That
- 26:36Speaker 1: started from the moment I entered this earth. Like, yeah,
- 26:41Speaker 1: my story has already been written. I have zero fucking
- 26:43Speaker 1: control over it.
- 26:44Speaker 10: Right.
- 26:44Speaker 1: I just had to surrender and not try to control it.
- 26:47Speaker 4: Right.
- 26:47Speaker 1: I'll do what I can. Cause I'm a control freak. Yes,
- 26:50Speaker 1: we all are. But Your forgiving heart is something that
- 26:57Speaker 1: I cannot explain. I do not have it. Let me
- 27:00Speaker 1: tell you, that other bitch, she were to come to me.
- 27:04Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 27:04Speaker 1: I'm the wrong bitch to come to.
- 27:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 27:07Speaker 1: Because there's no forgiving heart here. So good for you.
- 27:12Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:14Speaker 1: But by the way, if she does appear, you better
- 27:17Speaker 1: fucking stay strong, bitch.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Who, me?
- 27:19Speaker 1: Yeah, no new friends. Are you crazy? Oh, I am
- 27:23Speaker 1: not replacing you. Not replacing or adding. We're done here.
- 27:28Speaker 1: You're stuck. We're like Siamese twins now. We can never
- 27:31Speaker 1: be unstuck. I wouldn't have it any other way. I
- 27:33Speaker 1: love you. We should get Unlikely Affair hoodies with the
- 27:37Speaker 1: two holes. Gina and we should record a podcast like that.
- 27:44Speaker 1: Someone will make them for us. I'm getting that. Oh
- 27:45Speaker 1: my God. That is genius. It's genius. And we're doing it.
- 27:57Speaker 3: I don't even know where to start, but let me
- 28:00Speaker 3: start with this.
- 28:00Speaker 10: So a year ago.
- 28:03Speaker 3: My baby daddy, who was high on blow and drunk,
- 28:09Speaker 3: tried to take my baby who was five months old
- 28:13Speaker 3: and then say that I was an unfit mother and
- 28:20Speaker 3: kept her from me for two months. Mind you, I'm
- 28:23Speaker 3: in a state where it's fucking weird. I took him
- 28:27Speaker 3: back in and I let it go and I'm trying
- 28:31Speaker 3: to move forward. One year later, here we are. He
- 28:36Speaker 3: is now saying that I'm the crazy one. And I
- 28:39Speaker 3: need help when he is the one who is still
- 28:43Speaker 3: getting fucked up, smoking weed, going out to bars, works
- 28:46Speaker 3: at bars. And I'm the one paying for everything, contributing
- 28:50Speaker 3: to everything, taking care of our child, you know, daycare, whatever,
- 28:56Speaker 3: a full-time career. And he's still just fucking around and
- 29:03Speaker 3: not finding out. So it's disgusting to me. I don't
- 29:10Speaker 3: know what to do when this person is like, if.
- 29:13Speaker 10: You want me back, you need to go to.
- 29:17Speaker 3: Therapy and you need to do this and that. I
- 29:19Speaker 3: go to therapy, bitch. I'm sober. I do this and that.
- 29:22Speaker 3: What the fuck are you doing? So I'm disgusted. I
- 29:26Speaker 3: am grossed out. And he is doing whatever he wants
- 29:30Speaker 3: and has said, I can hang out with whoever I
- 29:35Speaker 3: want and I can do whatever I want, but you
- 29:37Speaker 3: need to get help. What do I do? I am
- 29:41Speaker 3: alone out here, by the way. I have no family here.
- 29:44Speaker 3: I stay here for him. He's isolated me. I'm just lost.
- 29:54Speaker 1: I want to kill him. There's only one thing to do.
- 29:57Speaker 1: He has to die. He has to die. No, seriously.
- 30:04Speaker 1: Kill the motherfucker. I think that's bad advice.
- 30:07Speaker 4: Okay.
- 30:08Speaker 9: All right.
- 30:08Speaker 1: So the advice is, okay. No one goes to prison
- 30:11Speaker 1: for wishing. You don't need to call Bob Shapiro for
- 30:14Speaker 1: a wish.
- 30:17Speaker 4: Okay.
- 30:18Speaker 1: She has to get smart. I love where your head's at, bitch.
- 30:22Speaker 1: Keep going.
- 30:22Speaker 5: Right.
- 30:23Speaker 1: You've got to get smart. So we've got to one-up
- 30:25Speaker 1: this motherfucker.
- 30:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Okay, so— You have to take on a mind that
- 30:29Speaker 1: is so unnatural to you.
- 30:30Speaker 6: You have to not be yourself, numb yourself, and say, okay,
- 30:34Speaker 6: we're going to create a little.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Nest of cash.
- 30:40Speaker 6: And then we're going to also— we' re going to go to
- 30:43Speaker 6: therapy together because it's really important if you go to
- 30:46Speaker 6: therapy and, like— have the therapist really, you know, they'll
- 30:51Speaker 6: be able to tell him two seconds that he's a
- 30:53Speaker 6: narcissist and a crazy person for, first of all, isolating her,
- 30:56Speaker 6: which is insane. And just start building a small case.
- 31:01Speaker 6: Start building your case around him. Oh my God, Amber,
- 31:03Speaker 6: we are so right here. Yeah, because this is what
- 31:06Speaker 6: has happened.
- 31:07Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 31:08Speaker 1: You should also do therapy solo though, to have that
- 31:13Speaker 1: therapist documenting what you're saying. On record. Be very strategic
- 31:18Speaker 1: and know he's a narcissist. So if you go to
- 31:20Speaker 1: couples therapy, he's going to know how to turn it on.
- 31:23Speaker 1: I would, I would give it a shot, but if
- 31:25Speaker 1: you feel like this is not going to play in
- 31:27Speaker 1: my favor, be done with it. Also, you have to
- 31:32Speaker 1: start recording him. Well, it depends on what state she
- 31:35Speaker 1: lives in. Okay. Hear me out. You record him. You
- 31:41Speaker 1: then go into your notes app or something you can
- 31:44Speaker 1: lock where you write the transcript. Okay. You listen. And
- 31:48Speaker 1: exactly what he said, you put into words, delete the recording,
- 31:53Speaker 1: delete it from your phone, delete it from the deleted part.
- 31:57Speaker 1: You know, it goes to trash, but then you can
- 31:58Speaker 1: still access the trash and get rid of it. But
- 32:00Speaker 1: you have the full transcript. You need to document every
- 32:03Speaker 1: time you feel like he's high on blow. If you
- 32:06Speaker 1: can get a hair sample.
- 32:08Speaker 3: Oh, pillow.
- 32:08Speaker 1: Go to his pillow. You gotta get follicle, too.
- 32:11Speaker 4: You know what?
- 32:11Speaker 1: You could also give him a blowjob and then rip
- 32:13Speaker 1: a pube out and be like, oh, sorry. Great idea.
- 32:17Speaker 1: You have to do things that you don't want to do,
- 32:19Speaker 1: like touch him, call him pet names, make him feel
- 32:22Speaker 1: like this is a safe environment, and you just get
- 32:25Speaker 1: to documenting, bitch, because then when you fucking blindside his
- 32:30Speaker 1: ass with a fucking court case and a number, a
- 32:34Speaker 1: filing number, and you say, we're done here, deal with
- 32:37Speaker 1: my lawyer.
- 32:38Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:38Speaker 1: Oh! I just got wet.
- 32:40Speaker 5: Fucking gangster.
- 32:44Speaker 1: That is gangster. All right, next one. I love these.
- 32:47Speaker 1: I'm obsessed.
- 32:47Speaker 6: I want to get through all ten of them.
- 32:49Speaker 1: I want to get through all of them. They're so good.
- 32:51Speaker 9: Hi, Amber and Lala.
- 32:53Speaker 8: I absolutely love you guys.
- 32:55Speaker 9: Just never miss an episode. I really admire you both.
- 33:00Speaker 9: So my question is a little bit long-winded, but I
- 33:07Speaker 9: have been with my husband for 12 years. Um, we've
- 33:10Speaker 9: been married for about five. We do have a child now. Um,
- 33:14Speaker 9: he's a bit older than me and, um, he, he,
- 33:20Speaker 9: we have a lot of issues. We have a rocky relationship.
- 33:23Speaker 9: I've been considering, um, divorce for a while. And one
- 33:27Speaker 9: of the main reasons for that is, um, because he
- 33:31Speaker 9: financially refuses to include me in, um, Anything he has, really.
- 33:39Speaker 9: I mean, I have my own career. I'm pretty successful.
- 33:43Speaker 9: But we've been together for a long time, and I
- 33:45Speaker 9: feel like we've really built nothing. He refuses to include
- 33:49Speaker 9: my name on the house because he says I can't
- 33:54Speaker 9: pay 50%, but I do contribute a significant amount every
- 33:59Speaker 9: month towards living here. We've been in this house for
- 34:02Speaker 9: almost 10 years. And I just feel like he, being
- 34:08Speaker 9: the mother of his child, dedicating this much amount of
- 34:11Speaker 9: time to him, this much of my life to him,
- 34:14Speaker 9: through a lot that we've been through a lot. And
- 34:19Speaker 9: I really feel he just holds no value in me
- 34:23Speaker 9: as a person. I've never asked him for money. He's
- 34:26Speaker 9: never paid for anything directly for me. But when I
- 34:31Speaker 9: bring this issue up to him, all he hears that
- 34:33Speaker 9: comes out of my mouth is, um, that I, I
- 34:37Speaker 9: want money from him. And I try to explain to
- 34:39Speaker 9: him that, you know, I want some sort of financial
- 34:42Speaker 9: security for my future. Uh, if anything were to happen
- 34:44Speaker 9: to us and, you know, I've invested this much time
- 34:46Speaker 9: of my life, um, with him.
- 34:49Speaker 1: Oh, she sounds broken.
- 34:52Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 34:54Speaker 1: You know what I would say?
- 34:55Speaker 6: I would try to sit down with him calmly and
- 35:00Speaker 6: just say like, I, we've, we've built this beautiful life together.
- 35:04Speaker 1: You're much older than I am because that's what she said, right?
- 35:06Speaker 1: That he's much older. He's older, yeah.
- 35:08Speaker 6: And just say, I need some sort of security because
- 35:11Speaker 6: God forbid something happens to you, then what? I'm left
- 35:15Speaker 6: raising our children or our kid.
- 35:19Speaker 7: Right.
- 35:20Speaker 1: So I don't know. Anytime we get voicemails like this,
- 35:24Speaker 1: it makes me really fucking sad because it's just so
- 35:29Speaker 1: important that as women we have financial security independent from
- 35:37Speaker 1: the person we're with. And I don't necessarily know how
- 35:42Speaker 1: to backtrack when you're in a situation like that. Well,
- 35:46Speaker 1: she does. She says she's pretty successful.
- 35:47Speaker 6: It sounds like she wants a partner and she doesn't,
- 35:49Speaker 6: she's not, it sounds like she has a roommate.
- 35:51Speaker 1: It's exactly what you said. You sit down and you
- 35:53Speaker 1: have a real heart to heart of, do you understand
- 35:56Speaker 1: if something were to happen to you one day, like
- 36:00Speaker 1: I would be fucked and our child would be fucked.
- 36:04Speaker 6: So you either have a will or, That, you know,
- 36:06Speaker 6: everything gets put— I guess because they're married, so everything would
- 36:09Speaker 6: go to her anyway, right?
- 36:11Speaker 1: Unless the will says something different, by the way. I'd
- 36:13Speaker 1: ask to see the will. I don't necessarily know unless
- 36:16Speaker 1: you have this written out. Does it still go to
- 36:18Speaker 1: probate or is it just— it goes to the spouse.
- 36:22Speaker 1: Is that how it works? I don't know. I have
- 36:24Speaker 1: no idea.
- 36:24Speaker 6: I assume it would go to the spouse, um, or
- 36:28Speaker 6: the son and then ask, you know, I would say as,
- 36:31Speaker 6: as hard as this is, it's like, listen, if it's
- 36:33Speaker 6: not going to be like in the will, like we
- 36:35Speaker 6: need some sort of insurance. So if you get life insurance,
- 36:38Speaker 6: that would also be great too. And you can make,
- 36:41Speaker 6: this is where you tap in a third party as well.
- 36:44Speaker 6: like go to a therapist where you just, you.
- 36:47Speaker 1: State like what's going on because when you get married,
- 36:51Speaker 1: it is absolutely unacceptable for her to not be in
- 36:55Speaker 1: the know.
- 36:56Speaker 6: It's weird that they don't have a prenup or they'd never,
- 36:59Speaker 6: you know, cause they've been together for 12 years.
- 37:01Speaker 1: 10 years. She said they were married for 10 years.
- 37:04Speaker 1: They've been married and she keeps contemplating divorce and like,
- 37:11Speaker 1: even though I'm a big fan of not marriage, I
- 37:15Speaker 1: do believe that like marriage is worth fighting for.
- 37:18Speaker 6: And I think she should talk to an attorney actually
- 37:22Speaker 6: and see what they go, go see a therapist, but
- 37:25Speaker 6: also go to an attorney to get finances. You should
- 37:28Speaker 6: probably sit down with an attorney and figure it out.
- 37:30Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 37:30Speaker 1: Even if it doesn't go any, like you're not moving
- 37:33Speaker 1: towards a divorce. I think you're right.
- 37:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:36Speaker 1: You just can't be blind.
- 37:37Speaker 6: That's way over my head. You can't live in the dark.
- 37:40Speaker 6: You cannot live in the dark.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Trust me. I did it. You just have to know. Also,
- 37:51Speaker 1: for my people who are starting to get married and
- 37:55Speaker 1: they plan on being a wife and a stay-at-home mom,
- 37:58Speaker 1: that is the most difficult job on the planet, have
- 38:02Speaker 1: a conversation with your mans. He needs to give you money.
- 38:07Speaker 1: He's got to give you money. If you're not going
- 38:10Speaker 1: to go out and work, there has to be an
- 38:13Speaker 1: agreement that if I'm going to be taking care of
- 38:15Speaker 1: the house and the kids, that's going to cost something. Mm-hmm.
- 38:19Speaker 1: Because God forbid the guy doesn't act right or you
- 38:23Speaker 1: decide you want to leave him, at least you have
- 38:25Speaker 1: like a little nest egg.
- 38:27Speaker 4: Yes.
- 38:27Speaker 7: Right?
- 38:27Speaker 3: Yes.
- 38:28Speaker 4: Yes.
- 38:29Speaker 1: I know it sounds cold and heartless, but everything's amazing
- 38:32Speaker 1: until it's not anymore.
- 38:33Speaker 4: Until it's not. Right.
- 38:34Speaker 9: Exactly.
- 38:34Speaker 1: And it happens like that.
- 38:37Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
- 38:48Speaker 3: I need your advice.
- 38:50Speaker 12: Basically, I'm on maternity leave from my first baby, and
- 38:55Speaker 12: I was supposed to go back to work in a week. Well,
- 38:58Speaker 12: my HR and my upper boss just called me today
- 39:03Speaker 12: and said that they were essentially, quote unquote, sunsetting our position, a.k.a.
- 39:10Speaker 12: they're laying everyone off. I'm the breadwinner. And our plan
- 39:16Speaker 12: was this whole time for my husband to be the
- 39:18Speaker 12: stay-at-home parent. I'm extremely career-oriented and love my job, so
- 39:26Speaker 12: I'm devastated. And I just don't even know. at like
- 39:30Speaker 12: 33 years.
- 39:31Speaker 10: Old, like what is life?
- 39:33Speaker 12: What do I even do now? If you could give
- 39:35Speaker 12: me your two cents, like being a mom who's had
- 39:39Speaker 12: a lot of different like career aspirations that we've seen
- 39:44Speaker 12: from like give them Lala to serve to reality TV.
- 39:50Speaker 12: Like I I'm just curious, like what, what is life?
- 39:59Speaker 12: What do I even do? If you can help me,
- 40:01Speaker 12: I'd appreciate you girl. And I love you and Amber's
- 40:05Speaker 12: dynamic and your show.
- 40:08Speaker 10: It's great.
- 40:09Speaker 1: 33 is so young, right? Like, what a badass to
- 40:12Speaker 1: have this, like, massive career at the age of 33. Insane.
- 40:17Speaker 1: I think depending on where you are, like, 33 for L.A.
- 40:23Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 40:24Speaker 1: Is, like, so, like, a tiny little tot, right? I know. Like,
- 40:29Speaker 1: we're all still out here being like, I don't even
- 40:32Speaker 1: know what I want to do in life. Whereas maybe...
- 40:36Speaker 1: If she's from like a smaller place, because in Utah,
- 40:39Speaker 1: 33 is like, oh, you're like grown. You've never been married.
- 40:42Speaker 1: Where's your gray hair? Oh, they're there. She should go
- 40:47Speaker 1: get another job. 100%. She loves her career.
- 40:49Speaker 6: And the best thing that you could do for your
- 40:51Speaker 6: baby and your husband is if that's what you want,
- 40:55Speaker 6: like go keep pursuing your career.
- 40:58Speaker 1: Your career is something you love. But remember, it does
- 41:02Speaker 1: not define who you are. You obviously are a fucking badass.
- 41:08Speaker 1: The fact that you're the breadwinner, you have a wonderful
- 41:11Speaker 1: husband who's going to, you know, stay at home with
- 41:14Speaker 1: your sweet baby. Like, everything is good. This is a
- 41:19Speaker 1: bump in the road that throws us off, right? When
- 41:23Speaker 1: we're like into what we're doing, but it's not... it's
- 41:27Speaker 1: a pivotal moment. It is not a defining moment. I say,
- 41:30Speaker 1: take a step back, talk to your husband, really talk
- 41:34Speaker 1: it out of like, what do I love to do?
- 41:37Speaker 1: What do I want to do? And I know you
- 41:38Speaker 1: love this career, but we got to say goodbye to it.
- 41:40Speaker 1: We can't be married to it. The sun has set.
- 41:44Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 41:44Speaker 1: I love the way they put that.
- 41:45Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 41:45Speaker 1: By the way, we're, we're sun setting. What does that
- 41:48Speaker 1: even mean? It's a nice way of saying it's over. Yes,
- 41:52Speaker 1: of course. Because who doesn't love that? It sounds like
- 41:54Speaker 1: a really pretty, oh, sunset. No, it means the day
- 41:57Speaker 1: is done. It's like, fuck you. Fuck you. I get it. No,
- 42:01Speaker 1: go get another job. You got it. You're going to
- 42:03Speaker 1: get another job.
- 42:04Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 42:05Speaker 1: And what's so crazy is back to what we just
- 42:07Speaker 1: talked about. God has a fucking plan. This position was
- 42:13Speaker 1: never meant to be here forever. And when things are
- 42:16Speaker 1: not meant to be here forever— God puts an end
- 42:19Speaker 1: to it. The universe, whatever you believe in, this chapter
- 42:22Speaker 1: is done, and now we're going to place you where
- 42:24Speaker 1: you're supposed to be. And it could be even better
- 42:26Speaker 1: than the one she had before.
- 42:27Speaker 7: And you know what?
- 42:28Speaker 1: It could be less better, but it's the road to
- 42:30Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be, where it all makes sense.
- 42:33Speaker 6: Right?
- 42:34Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 42:35Speaker 9: Okay.
- 42:36Speaker 1: Are we giving good advice? Okay. I feel like I'm, yeah,
- 42:40Speaker 1: it's like a therapist.
- 42:41Speaker 6: You know, the therapists are usually the fucked up ones
- 42:43Speaker 6: and you're like giving advice and you're like, I pay
- 42:46Speaker 6: you three 50.
- 42:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 42:47Speaker 1: It's crazy.
- 42:48Speaker 7: Okay.
- 42:48Speaker 1: But can I say one thing? It's kind of like
- 42:51Speaker 1: when I comment on people's relationships and they're like, I
- 42:53Speaker 1: would never take advice from you. You're not in a
- 42:55Speaker 1: healthy relationship. It's like, I'm also not a chef, but
- 42:57Speaker 1: I know when something tastes good and when something doesn't.
- 43:00Speaker 1: All right. I don't need to sing like Beyonce to
- 43:04Speaker 1: know a good voice from a shitty one.
- 43:06Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 43:06Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 43:07Speaker 1: Fucking simple as that.
- 43:09Speaker 3: Hi, Lala.
- 43:10Speaker 10: Hi, Amber. Okay, first of all, obsessed with you both
- 43:13Speaker 10: and love this podcast so much. My situation is heavily
- 43:19Speaker 10: pregnant with my second baby. It's been a complicated pregnancy,
- 43:24Speaker 10: to say the least. Some complications with my body, some
- 43:29Speaker 10: mental issues, but we have worked through them the best
- 43:32Speaker 10: we can. We are nearing the end of the pregnancy. However,
- 43:35Speaker 10: that has made it so difficult My husband is mortified
- 43:38Speaker 10: to touch me with even a 10-foot pole. We have
- 43:40Speaker 10: not had sex in months. He's too afraid to touch me.
- 43:45Speaker 10: He calls me his broken bird. And while it's adorable,
- 43:47Speaker 10: a girl's got needs. And I would love to have sex.
- 43:51Speaker 10: So trying to talk to him about having sex is
- 43:54Speaker 10: literally mortifying for him. And he refuses to do it.
- 43:59Speaker 10: But I need to have sex. I'm also really afraid
- 44:02Speaker 10: that if we don't have sex prior to me giving birth,
- 44:05Speaker 10: when we finally go to have sex after I've given birth,
- 44:08Speaker 10: it's really going to fucking suck.
- 44:09Speaker 3: You know? So, we'll love any advice.
- 44:13Speaker 10: Love you guys.
- 44:14Speaker 1: I love this woman. And how cute is that? That
- 44:17Speaker 1: he's like, I don't want to hurt you because you've
- 44:19Speaker 1: had complications with you and I'm nervous about the baby.
- 44:22Speaker 1: It's just all so fucking cute. When I hear voicemails
- 44:25Speaker 1: like that, it warms my heart. Because she's just a
- 44:29Speaker 1: bitch carrying a baby with the love of her life.
- 44:32Speaker 1: And she wants some dick.
- 44:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 44:34Speaker 1: I get it. You know? I get that, too. Some
- 44:38Speaker 1: men are just so afraid to hurt the baby. I know,
- 44:43Speaker 1: kind of hot. But I'm like, trust me, you ain't
- 44:45Speaker 1: that big, baby. That's what you should do. You should
- 44:47Speaker 1: penis shame him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. Honey,
- 44:51Speaker 1: I love you, and I love your big, massive cock,
- 44:56Speaker 1: but it ain't that big. All right? You're not going
- 44:59Speaker 1: to hurt us. Not in the least. I think, again, conversation,
- 45:04Speaker 1: like sitting him down and being like, here's the deal.
- 45:07Speaker 1: I'm fine. You're no doctor. The doctors have said I'm fine.
- 45:12Speaker 1: Well-educated people have said I'm fine. Your pee-pee is not
- 45:16Speaker 1: going to touch the baby, all right? I have to
- 45:19Speaker 1: have sex. And not only do I have to, I'm
- 45:22Speaker 1: afraid of when I have this baby, like we're going
- 45:25Speaker 1: to lose the intimacy. And see what he says. How
- 45:28Speaker 1: do you feel about what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm so curious.
- 45:29Speaker 6: Just be like, even if it's... foreplay right even if
- 45:33Speaker 6: it's they're just like making out and like even if
- 45:35Speaker 6: he were to use a vibrator on her yeah yeah
- 45:37Speaker 6: yeah yeah on the outside babe you don't have to
- 45:39Speaker 6: insert just.
- 45:40Speaker 1: Yeah find the spot just a little massaging of the
- 45:43Speaker 1: bean reading the doorbell you know.
- 45:44Speaker 6: What she wants I hear it she wants connection yes
- 45:47Speaker 6: she wants connection I don't know though She just wants
- 45:51Speaker 6: an orgasm.
- 45:52Speaker 1: I've been pregnant and I'm like, I need no connection.
- 45:55Speaker 1: I'm connected fully. I'm just going to need some penetration. Like,
- 45:59Speaker 1: I just need to be fucked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
- 46:02Speaker 1: if you can't do it, I'll find someone who can.
- 46:04Speaker 1: And by the way, there's some guys that really love
- 46:06Speaker 1: pregnant women. Yeah, I noticed. When I got pregnant and
- 46:09Speaker 1: there was no dad involved, the DMs were certainly popping.
- 46:13Speaker 5: Oh, oh my gosh.
- 46:13Speaker 1: This is the most men I've had in my DMs
- 46:16Speaker 1: like ever in my whole life. Sickos. I'm sure there
- 46:20Speaker 1: are Real sickos out there. Don't penis shame him, obviously.
- 46:24Speaker 1: That was a joke. But there's so many other ways
- 46:26Speaker 1: that you can have that intimate moment without him hurting
- 46:30Speaker 1: the baby or your body.
- 46:32Speaker 6: You've got to use reverse psychology on these guys.
- 46:36Speaker 1: Well, I personally would penis shame him. Yeah, they have
- 46:39Speaker 1: two heads. Big fan of the shaming. Two heads, they
- 46:41Speaker 1: think with one. Exactly. He's not the— The one time
- 46:46Speaker 1: we need him to think with the one they usually
- 46:48Speaker 1: think with, and he's not.
- 46:50Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 46:50Speaker 1: Men are so complex. They say we're complex. We're fucking
- 46:54Speaker 1: easy as it gets.
- 46:55Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
- 46:56Speaker 1: They are weird. We're good until menopause, and then we
- 47:01Speaker 1: go maybe a little psycho. You haven't even hit menopause.
- 47:05Speaker 1: I know, but I have a feeling when it happens. Oh,
- 47:08Speaker 1: I'm going to be off my rocker. Buckle up. Buckle up.
- 47:11Speaker 1: I'm injecting every hormone I possibly can into my body.
- 47:14Speaker 1: I'm running away for like five years and then I'll
- 47:17Speaker 1: be back. Holy gray. A full fucking hippie. I'll have
- 47:21Speaker 1: an eat, pray, love moment during menopause. Yeah, you will.
- 47:23Speaker 1: You're going to be like, I love my dry vagina.
- 47:25Speaker 1: This is what women go through.
- 47:28Speaker 4: Yes.
- 47:29Speaker 1: I've been bleeding for 97,000 moons. My stiff shoulder. What
- 47:34Speaker 1: do you get? You get like an ice shoulder, stiff shoulder?
- 47:36Speaker 1: I don't even know. What does that even mean? I
- 47:37Speaker 1: just learned about it. I just learned about that on
- 47:40Speaker 1: the Today Show, by the way. Oh, yeah. How weird.
- 47:42Speaker 1: They've been talking a lot about menopause. It's a hot
- 47:45Speaker 1: topic right now. This woman's not going through that, though.
- 47:47Speaker 1: She's pregnant. She's going through the opposite of menopause. Yeah, right?
- 47:52Speaker 6: And by the way, she's got to be careful because
- 47:53Speaker 6: once she has the baby and they start being intimate,
- 47:55Speaker 6: you can get pregnant like that. Like, if you have
- 47:58Speaker 6: sex within the first three months of giving birth, you
- 48:01Speaker 6: are so fertile that the chances of you getting pregnant are.
- 48:04Speaker 1: Like, so, so high. That face you just made. Okay,
- 48:10Speaker 1: next one. That was hysterical. Asap Rocky and Rihanna. Mm-hmm.
- 48:15Speaker 1: Super sperm.
- 48:16Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 48:17Speaker 1: Yeah, you're super fertile.
- 48:28Speaker 4: Hey, Lala.
- 48:28Speaker 7: My name's Jennifer. I'm from London, Ontario in Canada. Anyways,
- 48:33Speaker 7: I just want to read you what I wrote here.
- 48:34Speaker 7: Dear Lala, I'm 45 and I feel like I've lived
- 48:37Speaker 7: a few lifetimes already.
- 48:39Speaker 8: I've cheated.
- 48:39Speaker 7: I've been cheated on. I've loved hard. I've made mistakes.
- 48:43Speaker 7: I've had people walk away because I'm too blunt. But
- 48:47Speaker 7: one of the hardest things that I've ever experienced was
- 48:49Speaker 7: losing my best friend of 35 years. I took her
- 48:52Speaker 7: in when she had nowhere to go. While she was
- 48:54Speaker 7: living with me, she slept with my boyfriend. When my
- 48:56Speaker 7: family member I was renting from found out, my family
- 49:00Speaker 7: member kicked her out of my home. Somehow, she ended
- 49:03Speaker 7: up telling everybody that I had left her homeless. I
- 49:05Speaker 7: became the villain in her story. I was the one
- 49:09Speaker 7: who opened my home to her. That experience really changed
- 49:12Speaker 7: how I see loyalty, friendship, love, and even myself. So
- 49:15Speaker 7: my question for you guys, Lala and Amber, is when
- 49:19Speaker 7: you've made mistakes, but you've also been deeply hurt by
- 49:22Speaker 7: people you've trusted, how do you stop carrying everybody else's
- 49:25Speaker 7: version of you and finally decide who you want to
- 49:28Speaker 7: be in your next chapter? Anyways, thanks for listening. I
- 49:31Speaker 7: love you both. I think it's amazing that you rewrote
- 49:33Speaker 7: your story. I have a similar situation. I love her.
- 49:36Speaker 1: I know.
- 49:37Speaker 3: She's so sweet.
- 49:38Speaker 1: Love you both.
- 49:39Speaker 10: Have a good day.
- 49:40Speaker 1: You know what I've learned is you're never going to
- 49:44Speaker 1: get everyone on your side, right? And the moment that
- 49:48Speaker 1: you make changes for the people who don't like you,
- 49:50Speaker 1: the people that do like you are then going to
- 49:52Speaker 1: be like, I don't like who you are. So you
- 49:54Speaker 1: have to be able to lay your head down at
- 49:56Speaker 1: night and feel good about the person that you are.
- 49:59Speaker 1: And anybody who has boundaries, a backbone, is vocal... You
- 50:07Speaker 1: will always come out of this the villain. No matter
- 50:10Speaker 1: what I do, I am always looked at as someone
- 50:15Speaker 1: who is too aggressive, who is cruel. I am looked
- 50:22Speaker 1: at as I'm just, I'm too much. I'm a bitch.
- 50:27Speaker 1: People would say I'm a bitch. And that is hard
- 50:32Speaker 1: to take on because I just had this conversation with
- 50:36Speaker 1: my mom the other day where she said, you're harsh.
- 50:39Speaker 1: You're mean. And I was like, no, I can be harsh.
- 50:44Speaker 1: And I can be mean. But I'm not mean and
- 50:49Speaker 1: I'm not harsh. I'm actually very kind. You're just choosing
- 50:53Speaker 1: to focus on the times that maybe I have to
- 50:56Speaker 1: get a little intense with you so that you'll fucking
- 50:59Speaker 1: listen to me. I understand this girl so well. Because
- 51:05Speaker 1: she's going to be looked at as the girl who
- 51:06Speaker 1: left so-and-so homeless. And no one's going to care about
- 51:09Speaker 1: her story, right? Because she's not looked at as the
- 51:12Speaker 1: perfect victim. Because I'm sure in her day-to-day... She's tough.
- 51:16Speaker 1: She gets the fucking job done. She is not the
- 51:18Speaker 1: perfect victim where she's been a baby bird and then
- 51:21Speaker 1: done wrong. No, she checks people. You fuck around, you
- 51:24Speaker 1: find out. I don't want you to change that quality
- 51:27Speaker 1: about yourself because it's a wonderful quality. And if this
- 51:30Speaker 1: girl wants to go around and feels comfortable playing the victim,
- 51:34Speaker 1: let her do that. You go about your business. You're
- 51:37Speaker 1: not going to change anyone's mind. If anyone approaches you
- 51:40Speaker 1: and wants to talk about it, this is what happened.
- 51:42Speaker 1: I can't change her perspective. If she thinks I left
- 51:45Speaker 1: her homeless, then great. I left her homeless. By the way,
- 51:47Speaker 1: she's got to save herself. You know, she's got to
- 51:50Speaker 1: save herself.
- 51:50Speaker 6: And I've noticed something about myself recently where I give
- 51:56Speaker 6: less fucks about what people think, my decisions, the, like,
- 52:00Speaker 6: even the things that I say to them.
- 52:01Speaker 1: Like I just, that is the beauty of getting older
- 52:05Speaker 1: and having experience in life. And it feels good.
- 52:08Speaker 6: Like Being able to trust yourself and your decisions and
- 52:11Speaker 6: your choices, like that's how you build self-worth, self-respect.
- 52:17Speaker 1: I love what you just said. And it does come
- 52:19Speaker 1: with age. It cannot be taught. It's just something that
- 52:24Speaker 1: happens when you hit a certain point in life and
- 52:26Speaker 1: you're like, I don't care. So don't try to change
- 52:30Speaker 1: people's minds. You know what? I actually like being the
- 52:32Speaker 1: villain in people's stories. Most people don't like being the villain.
- 52:37Speaker 1: Because the villain means that I will come for you
- 52:41Speaker 1: if you fuck around. Yeah, but you're not a bad villain. No,
- 52:45Speaker 1: but when they try to paint me, like on reality TV,
- 52:48Speaker 1: I think people would say, I mean, I'm not a
- 52:50Speaker 1: villain like fucking Jax Taylor by any means, but like
- 52:53Speaker 1: there would be some people that say she's a reality
- 52:56Speaker 1: TV villain. Okay, great. That just means that I say
- 53:00Speaker 1: what no one else wants to say.
- 53:02Speaker 2: Right.
- 53:02Speaker 1: I put up a boundary. I call shit out when
- 53:05Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. And you know what? The part where, like,
- 53:09Speaker 1: I take accountability for the shit that comes out of
- 53:12Speaker 1: my mouth, if I regret it and it was wrong,
- 53:16Speaker 1: I'm standing ten toes down on this season of The Valley.
- 53:19Speaker 1: Chef's kiss. No notes for me, by the way.
- 53:22Speaker 5: Ha ha.
- 53:25Speaker 1: That gets pushed aside because I out-mean people, right? You do.
- 53:31Speaker 4: You do.
- 53:31Speaker 1: That's a gift, by the way. That's a talent. It's
- 53:35Speaker 1: a talent. Well, thank you. I think I just came
- 53:39Speaker 1: this way. That's how I was as a kid. No,
- 53:40Speaker 1: you did.
- 53:41Speaker 10: I know.
- 53:41Speaker 1: People would push me into a corner, and then I
- 53:45Speaker 1: would react, and then my reaction outshadowed what they had done.
- 53:50Speaker 1: So that's what happened. She.
- 53:54Speaker 1: Fucked your boyfriend which no one was there to actually
- 53:57Speaker 1: see and then your boundary is kicking her out that's
- 54:00Speaker 1: something people can see oh this woman's homeless and that's
- 54:03Speaker 1: the woman responsible yeah so it's like unless it's put
- 54:07Speaker 1: in front of your face no one really gives a
- 54:09Speaker 1: shit be the village she fucked your boyfriend get the
- 54:11Speaker 1: fuck out of my house yeah i don't really care
- 54:13Speaker 1: if you're homeless you should have thought about that where
- 54:16Speaker 1: you fucked my boyfriend And anyone, by the way, anyone
- 54:20Speaker 1: who thinks that you're the villain in this, they're fucking dumbasses.
- 54:24Speaker 1: And you don't want them on your team when you're
- 54:26Speaker 1: going to war because those motherfuckers get slaughtered first. Again,
- 54:29Speaker 1: I've been watching Game of Thrones.
- 54:32Speaker 4: And on that.
- 54:33Speaker 6: Note, thank you for watching another episode of an unlikely affair.
- 54:39Speaker 1: Yes, hold on. Before we sign off, you guys, we
- 54:41Speaker 1: have officially launched an unlikely affair merch. You can shop. sweatshirts, t-shirts, uh,
- 54:49Speaker 1: the whole bit on shop a u a.com. I love them.
- 54:55Speaker 1: And the back is the best part.
- 54:57Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 54:59Speaker 1: Tell people what it says on the back of the shirt.
- 55:01Speaker 6: It says tour dates, all of the, all of our,
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- 55:42Speaker 1: Have a great weekend.
- 55:44Speaker 4: Yes.
- 55:44Speaker 1: Fuck yeah. Cheers to the weekend. Cheers to the freaking weekend.
- 55:48Speaker 10: Bye.
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