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Aug 3, 2025, Season 9-Episode 2: Conventions and Strange New Worlds Ep 3 and 4 · Warp My Tardis Podcast

• 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:23,600 Welcome to WalkMyTardis, a podcast production of the fandom Frontier Network. 2 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,640 And welcome once again to WorkMyTardis podcast here on the fandom Frontier Podcast Network. 3 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:34,800 I'm KJ the comic guy and on this hazy Sunday I'm joined by Security Dad. 4 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,280 It is hazy here in Ontario because well forest fires. 5 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,280 Yes. 6 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:46,440 But you know we should have known about these forest fires and we should have prevented 7 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:51,520 them from drifting down into America and you know we should have done a better job 8 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,280 of looking after these fires like California was supposed to. 9 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,120 Oh, hello, Orange Chino. 10 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,640 Who's sending the planes? 11 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,640 Who's dealing with the stuff? 12 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,640 Oh wait, we are. 13 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,640 Exactly. 14 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,640 Yeah. 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,080 No, we're not snippy. 16 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Anyways, it's been a week since we first booted up again for season 9. 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:22,960 It has some ongoing news from, at least not ongoing, but some news that we may have missed. 18 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:25,880 Last week was San Diego Comic Con. 19 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,040 You have some thoughts with regards to what's going on too because it was less actually epic 20 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:36,920 con and more side bars that were actually bringing in more of the hype from what you were 21 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,920 telling me. 22 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,840 So the Paramount Lodge was an outside event. 23 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:50,400 It was not part of the main con for critical, critical role had a whole side event with 24 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Darrington Press. 25 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,960 What I gathered from a number of news outlets and from things that have gone on, especially 26 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,640 some of the stuff on YouTube from the reviewers, the people that were on site is that this 27 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:08,000 was a very different feel for San Diego than it's been for the last several years. 28 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Instead of this being a big media con, the media stuff was all off site. 29 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,280 It was all in these satellites still within a block or so of the convention center. 30 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:27,040 But the convention itself was really based on fans, on the comics, on TV properties, but 31 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:33,920 it was not the big blockbuster trade show type of thing that it's been in the last several 32 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:34,920 years. 33 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:41,680 So something switched and I don't know what it is other than some big players weren't there. 34 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,920 Disney, again, wasn't there. 35 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:46,800 Small presence for Marvel. 36 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,200 Warner Brothers was there, but Warner Brothers is there with, 37 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,000 with all of their properties, not just the DC. 38 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,520 Anyway, boy, I jumped over that James Gunn really quick, didn't I? 39 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:05,520 Well, look, I personally, I just, you're just like a gun. 40 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,640 Well, a lot of the movie, a lot of the movie announcements that were made were not major 41 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:11,640 blockbusters. 42 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:14,240 It was smaller properties. 43 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:19,120 I mean, Jamie Lee Curtis is there and her big announcement was not 44 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,960 the Disney Freaky Friday reboot from Freaky Friday 2. 45 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:30,240 No, it was that she's going to be reprising the role of Jessica Fletcher in Murder She Wrote. 46 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,960 Wait, she played Jessica Fletcher in Murder She Wrote? 47 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,560 She's, she's playing Jessica Fletcher in the reboot of Murder She Wrote. 48 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,400 She's replacing Angela Wandsbury. 49 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,840 Yeah, your, your phrase of the audience was a little bit odd, but yeah, it's, I wonder if 50 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,760 that's going to be a thing because a lot of content, we've noticed this too with, with 51 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,560 Fan Expo granted different companies. 52 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:58,960 A lot of the bigger names are moving away from con floors and you're getting more, I suppose, 53 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,240 people are fan-driven things that are showing up. 54 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:10,240 So I wonder if that's just the ebb and flow of con life these days because things are changing. 55 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,040 Right? 56 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,240 Yeah, but it could be, it could very much be, yeah. 57 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,920 Yeah, but you had a lot of interesting trailers come out. 58 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,480 I mean, you and I have talked about Starfleet Academy. 59 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,960 Obviously the big issue is, where's Tilly? 60 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:32,480 But, you know, it's, it's one of those things of the more I watch it, the more it looks sort 61 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,320 of inspirational, weirdly, weirdly. 62 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:41,320 I am getting a bit of a Doctor Who/Class vibe to it. 63 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,760 Like, I don't know the premise enough, I know that there's Paul Jamatti supposed to be 64 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,720 a villain of sorts. 65 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:56,400 The, the, the fact that you have a character who's a half and half gem and a half cling on, 66 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,160 makes it that much more interesting. 67 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,400 So I'm kind of curious. 68 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:05,480 That wasn't by far the only trailer you had, what's called, the Predator Badlands trailer 69 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,520 that came out roughly around the same time. 70 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Yeah. 71 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:14,840 You got some interesting concepts of where they're going to go, but, you know, San Diego is kind 72 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:20,160 of a weird thing because for the longest time it's the holy grail of Comic-Cons that people 73 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,280 should try and get to, right? 74 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:28,280 And it was from what I've heard from folks going to it was, it was a next level experience. 75 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:32,880 Now I feel like it's less so for some reason. 76 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,240 Or these, that's the, it's, it's been so done that it's overdone. 77 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,120 I guess, I don't know. 78 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,160 But, I think that was hardly the only con that happened. 79 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:51,800 We had major announcements from, was it GenCon that happened recently too? 80 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,960 GenCon just finished today. 81 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:54,960 Yes. 82 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,560 So GenCon actually, no, GenCon goes until tomorrow. 83 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,800 So it's not even finished yet. 84 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,240 I just had to look at the dates. 85 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,000 So GenCon started on Friday and it runs through tomorrow. 86 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,960 A lot of different things happen at GenCon. 87 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:14,040 One of the big things was the confirmation, even though it was already confirmed online, 88 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:20,680 of what's that guy's name, Chris Perkins and what's that other guy's name that happened 89 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:29,520 to be on stage with Travis Paulingham and Matt Mercer talking about Daggerhart and Darrington 90 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,520 Press. 91 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,160 So, you know, yeah. 92 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,360 So we had, we had that presence. 93 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:42,840 But the big one there was the fact that, the announced October 2nd, 2025 will be the beginning 94 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:46,240 of campaign four in a whole new world. 95 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,240 It's not exandria. 96 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,880 Matt Mercer will be playing this game and not GMM because they've handed over the GM 97 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,440 reins to none other than Brendan Lee Morgan. 98 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Yeah. 99 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Now, keep in mind, a few weeks ago, Brendan Lee Mulligan did post a lot of things. 100 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:13,720 They posted it on the Dimension 20/Former the College Humor channels with regards to him 101 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,920 going to greener pastures. 102 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:24,600 But it was played as a bit of a parody and a joke and we weren't sure what was going on there. 103 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:31,480 But then we had some craziness happen and they brought Brendan Lee Mulligan out on stage 104 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:40,600 as the brand new game runner and I assume they're going to be in Daggerhart because you said 105 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:47,320 that he's officially switched flags to Darrington Press and Critical Role. 106 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:53,120 So that's going to be an interesting thing. 107 00:07:53,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Either way, I think Critical Role and Dimension 20 are so tied together anyways that you're 108 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,320 going to get crossovers to begin with. 109 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:09,720 It's just a slightly different machine and I'm optimistic. 110 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:20,120 I think it'll be interesting because now people are aware of these figures and they have 111 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,800 a bit more good will that they can cash on. 112 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:34,040 But speaking of games, you mentioned that Paiso is having some issues. 113 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,880 This was out before San Diego and before Gen Con. 114 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:46,920 I'm hoping that this may be a, they just released Starfinder 2.0. 115 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:52,160 We're hopeful that our Space Finder Star Finder is Star Finder After Light. 116 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,160 Star Finder. 117 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,080 Which is their 2.0 version. 118 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,440 I think they're hoping that this will turn around the downward trend that they were seeing 119 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,440 in revenues. 120 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,440 Oh, I'm sorry. 121 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:08,600 So Star Finder After Light is Paiso's TTRPG to video games. 122 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Star Finder 2.0 is the TTRPG. 123 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,760 Is the TTRPG? 124 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Okay. 125 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:21,760 Now the other thing that they did this week is Paiso launched its first official DND, 126 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:27,200 sorry, Pathfinder STL file on my mini factory. 127 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,720 They have their own tribe there where they're actually going to be releasing official 128 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,000 mini figs. 129 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:39,800 This one happens to be a cobalt because cobalt rule. 130 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,800 Fair. 131 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:49,840 So it'll be interesting to see what they're going to go with it because again, they're alternative. 132 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:56,600 So unlike Dungeons and Dragons who has matched up with WizKids to produce all of their 133 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:04,920 minis, their official DND minis, now you've got Paiso who's going direct to print with my 134 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,920 mini factory and producing the minis this way. 135 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,720 This could be the turn around. 136 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,520 This could be the game winner and changer for Paiso. 137 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:15,520 Hmm. 138 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:21,840 Well, it feels like they're a bit more fan or player forward. 139 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,200 Well, okay. 140 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,160 So let's remember how Paiso became into existence, right? 141 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:40,760 So back in 1997-ish, I guess it was, a little game called Dungeons and Dragons 3.5. 142 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,040 And at that point WizKids decided, hey, we're going to go to 4.0. 143 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,360 And people didn't like 4.0. 144 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,920 So what did they do? 145 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,680 They wanted to stick with 3.5. 146 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:57,160 So they took the SRD, the systems resource document, and they developed a whole pile of 147 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:02,720 our own content, which they called, instead of calling it 3.5, they called it Pathfinder. 148 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:07,200 And that's how Pathfinder came into existence and how Paiso became so big was because people 149 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,200 liked 3.5. 150 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:13,200 3.5 had been around for like 20 years with no issues whatsoever. 151 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,560 Maybe it was in 2000 and something. 152 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:23,920 Anyway, but Ney was to say, Paiso created a whole enterprise around content for 3.5, which 153 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:24,920 people loved. 154 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,080 No, you didn't have to have the minis like you did in 4.0. 155 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,120 You didn't have to play it with the minis and didn't have to play a tabletop strategy game 156 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:39,400 because WizKids was trying to compete against the other big, you know, mega with GW. 157 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,400 Anyway. 158 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,760 Well, that's what it was. 159 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,680 Well, it's so minis like GW does and they couldn't do it. 160 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:51,200 So anyway, you know, so yeah, Paiso made an announcement. 161 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:56,200 They had a big booth on the floor at GenCon. 162 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:03,080 Dungeons and Dragons made a couple of announcements at GenCon, including their future of Dungeons 163 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:10,160 and Dragons, which is a little worrying because it was more a matter of, well, it was more 164 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,720 a matter of, yeah, we're going to take all that great 165 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:17,920 content that creators have made and we're going to take it. 166 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:24,280 So stuff that goes on DM's guild and on Drive Through RPG is now subject to them taking it 167 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,920 and making it their own. 168 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,360 Oh, lovely. 169 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,680 And putting it on D&D Beyond is available under their licensing. 170 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:41,080 Yeah, so Ney was to say, well, it's an example because Dungeons of Dragonheim, which is the 171 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:47,040 Dungeon dudes, both of them, those guys are out of Toronto and they were very successful 172 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:53,480 with a multi-million dollar kickstarter and now Dungeons of Dragonheim is available on 173 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:54,800 D&D Beyond. 174 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,240 And you can't find it, you can't find it elsewhere. 175 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,800 Well, again, it's good to see that there are still creators in the space still fighting 176 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,000 the good fight and still able to push their own content. 177 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,360 So it'll be, yeah, it's a weird world. 178 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,360 But on time, talking about cons coming up, but yeah, talking about cons coming up though, 179 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:22,440 we've got FanExpo coming up and then a month later, we've got Hamilton Comic-Con, which 180 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,600 we will be at both of those events. 181 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,120 Yes. 182 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,640 And whether you liked it or not, now you're going to be at least two days out of FanExpo. 183 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:36,440 Well, look, it's one of those moments where I figured if I'm already going to do the 184 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,160 Com thing at this stage in the game, why not commit a bit more? 185 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:47,000 And I find that if we were hitting on the weekend, I mean, look, let's break down FanExpo. 186 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,560 Thursday, it's minimal, it's, get your feet wet. 187 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:56,240 If you want to do some ideal shopping with less crowds, you go on a Thursday. 188 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,840 Friday, I feel, I have a feeling that it splits the events because it's not going to be 189 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:08,680 as crowded as the weekend, but it's going to start to fill up. 190 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:14,160 Yeah, and it's the major stars all are on site by Friday morning. 191 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,160 Right. 192 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,360 And then Saturday is going to be gangbusters as it always is. 193 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:26,080 Sunday will be a lot less, but still, I mean, in our experience, it was busy and Sundays 194 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,080 tend to get very tiring. 195 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:34,920 Everyone has been saying this year that the cons are back to pre-COVID levels. 196 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:35,920 Yes. 197 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:41,000 This is the same level of expectation we had pre-COVID as far as number of bodies, the 198 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,800 busyness, just the smell of geek sweat. 199 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:46,800 Yes. 200 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,000 And then, I mean, think about it this way. 201 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:54,000 Last year, we did manage to record a show on the Sunday, but frankly, both you and I were 202 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,440 hurting by the time we started to roll. 203 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,440 Oh, yeah. 204 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,520 Well, but that's also why we're not doing the Sunday this year. 205 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,520 Yes. 206 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,920 At least that's not the plan. 207 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,680 We have the option, but it is not the plan. 208 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:06,680 It is not the plan. 209 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:07,680 If we need to. 210 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,480 It's not the plan. 211 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:14,720 Unfortunately, there was an announcement that I got and you had some email tic tac towing 212 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:21,240 to do, but unfortunately, Jody Whitaker had to pull out of the con, which I had paid 213 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,200 for the team up photo. 214 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:32,480 There is now another team up with Mandip Gill and Catherine Tate. 215 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:38,400 So yeah, I mean, it's unfortunate that that's happened, but I think there's a fair amount 216 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,960 of star power going on into the con. 217 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:41,960 So you got what? 218 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:42,960 You made Gregor there. 219 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,440 You got William Shatner there. 220 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,040 You got the cast of... 221 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,640 You got the cast of back to the future there. 222 00:15:50,640 --> 00:16:00,800 You have a fair amount of supermen and related folks there. 223 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:06,360 The plan is to ask the odd ball questions that some of these stars and celebrities hopefully 224 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,760 don't get often asked. 225 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:14,200 I mean, I still plan to go up and maybe get an autograph for a selfie with Tim Daly. 226 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:19,880 And I would also like to request that he bring back the daily show as we mentioned last 227 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:20,880 episode. 228 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:29,240 So for those who know, you know, just remember to be a little bit less douche. 229 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,720 What's called the one that I was waffling on and then based on the price point, I was like, 230 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,720 you know what, let's do it. 231 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,600 Let's get an autograph at least get to go see him. 232 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,320 I am going to go see John Poiega. 233 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:48,040 The plan is not to talk star wars, tendentially hit on Pacific Grant. 234 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,160 And a whole pile of Gundam. 235 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,160 Oh, it will be... 236 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:58,760 He's, you know, for those who know me, I have a fair amount of Gundam. 237 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,760 Right? 238 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,040 I want to talk shop with him on that one too. 239 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,400 So that will be where I'm going to lead those questions. 240 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,600 Some interesting voice actors. 241 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,200 I do... 242 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:17,800 I think I bought the photo op-pass for Michaela Murphy, but out of character, I think she'll 243 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,120 be an interesting fun person to chat to. 244 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:22,600 Yes, we will have cards. 245 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:23,920 Yes, please look for us. 246 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:31,040 I think this you were probably going to bring some unique flavored cosplay to the mix. 247 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,560 So yeah, keep an eye out for us there. 248 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:41,800 You might be watching for someone who looks like they're either Cardinal Vichelou or at least 249 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,280 the Spanish in position. 250 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,280 Yes. 251 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,080 We had on our hat off. 252 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,640 No one expects the Spanish in position. 253 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,440 I just realized, either that you're going to pull a Tim Curry. 254 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,160 Well, that's the Vichelou from Musketeers. 255 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,320 I realized you were going to potentially go for that one. 256 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:10,000 If I had the right hat with Gold Trim on a vest, I could have gone for him in Wild Magic, 257 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,920 the Discworld movie. 258 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:13,920 Ooh. 259 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,360 That's a deep cut. 260 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:17,120 Like about deep cuts, right? 261 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:18,120 Yes. 262 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:22,080 Either way, we here at Warp My Tartus do enjoy our Tim Curry. 263 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:27,680 You say I like it, but I like it with none. 264 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,440 It's really nice that way. 265 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:36,800 Well, depending on the culture, and he is still alive at the time of this recording. 266 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:37,800 Yes. 267 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:45,240 So, but I've also, I've also, from a gaming standpoint, I've got a photo of 268 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:51,560 up with, that's right, a Stereon himself, Neil Nubin. 269 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:52,560 Yes. 270 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:58,440 Which again, it would be opportune to talk about since we haven't heard much, but maybe 271 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,960 we can get some more info with regards to Sag Aftra and the voice actors and his initiative 272 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:03,960 too. 273 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,080 Well, that's what I want to talk to him about is more about his initiative. 274 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,120 Less about Sag Aftra's important. 275 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:11,120 Yes. 276 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:12,960 I'm glad he's coming to this event. 277 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,960 Yes. 278 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,680 I don't know, because he could say Sag Aftra, I'm not coming. 279 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,640 I'm glad he's coming to this event. 280 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,860 I'd like to talk to him a little bit more about his ideas on D&D, what it's like playing 281 00:19:23,860 --> 00:19:27,840 against a Braia Eisengarde. 282 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:34,640 And then the other part that goes with it is just this initiative of his and what he wants 283 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,480 to see it do, how big is it going to get and how fast is it going to grow? 284 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,480 Yes. 285 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:46,680 Well, I mean, think about it this way as basically, I mean, for the most part from what we've talked 286 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:52,560 about, you are the prototypical forever GM. 287 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,560 So I'm kind of curious. 288 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,560 Yes. 289 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Pretty much. 290 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,080 Where you're going to take that line of questioning with him. 291 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:05,480 And what we've found is there's a lot more people who are fans or who are aware, culturally 292 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,760 of it, that are slowly coming out of the woodwork. 293 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:17,920 And I mean, it is much as I can bitch and moan about the crowds and the people and wearing 294 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:23,520 costumes that, you know, when you get slightly older or heavier, will rip out your back and 295 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:29,480 you will have to crawl and then you will suffer from Keaton syndrome for a couple of weeks. 296 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,280 For those playing the home game, it's the, you can't turn your head for two weeks because 297 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:40,760 your neck is locked up because of just the way that the costumes sit sometimes. 298 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:46,800 You know, it'll be interesting to bring that in, but we are to quote, "Hardison from leverage." 299 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,080 We are in the age of the geek. 300 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:56,960 And as much as things have been crappy and politics and all that stuff, you know, the geeks 301 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,200 are here. 302 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:06,120 And the opportunity that you and I have noticed, I'd like to think is, going out to these conventions, 303 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:13,880 there is a wonderful strata of folks for almost all ages that will come together and not judge 304 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,800 each other. 305 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,800 There. 306 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,240 And maybe they're there to horn dog, maybe they're there to collect comics or by vintage toys, 307 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,360 or maybe they're there because they want to express and share the genuine love they have 308 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:28,160 for whatever property. 309 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:34,240 Granted, you know, there's things that you and I will not understand that we will see 310 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,400 that the youngins will have. 311 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,440 And there are things that even older generations that will bring that I won't understand too. 312 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,280 And you'll laugh at me for it. 313 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,920 But I don't laugh at you, not at all. 314 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,720 Yeah, but the fact of the matter is we are in the age of the geek. 315 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,720 This is why we're there. 316 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,440 This is why we go to these things. 317 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,440 Yeah. 318 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,440 Okay. 319 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,960 So, yeah, if you mention Hamilton, Hamilton, right? 320 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,440 We've got our tickets for that. 321 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,040 Not sure which day the Saturday of the Sunday we're going to be there yet. 322 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,680 We have to coordinate that. 323 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,560 But the other thing goes along with that is Star Trek Discovery Star Anthony Rapp will 324 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,560 be there. 325 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:16,800 So that's our go to is at least get up into that line and talk to Anthony Rapp a little 326 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,800 bit. 327 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,800 Yes. 328 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:19,800 Meet the man himself there. 329 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,800 So there's that. 330 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,800 Yeah. 331 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,800 But speaking of Star Trek, Star Trek. 332 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:31,360 We have two episodes of Star Trek Strange New Worlds that hit us one last week and one 333 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:35,640 this week that are very interesting. 334 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,800 Well, and again, I want to talk about the cadence here. 335 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:45,440 We're going with a dark episode, a light episode, a dark episode, a light episode. 336 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,640 We're bouncing back and forth between something that's very dramatic to something that's 337 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,080 very lighthearted and a lot of fun. 338 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,080 Yeah. 339 00:22:52,080 --> 00:23:00,760 Well, I mean, the common complaint we're going to get is for a lot of folks. 340 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,640 There's not enough episodes because we don't have the same, they're not in the same sort 341 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:13,040 of cycle of 22, 23 things where things can breathe. 342 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,320 And it's a shorter season. 343 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,960 So do they want to spend time on fervilist things or so called fervilist things or not? 344 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,160 People are going to complain. 345 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,160 Right. 346 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:32,360 It's a weird, it's a weird dynamic that we get to watch and see what people are doing. 347 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:36,160 But so far, I am enjoying season three. 348 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,160 Yes. 349 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,320 No, it's been, let's, so let's just do a quick recap. 350 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:48,440 The first episode was Higemini Part Two, where we recover our crew members from the Gorn. 351 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,360 Okay. 352 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:56,360 Got all the, the, the, the settlers out. 353 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:59,160 Yeah, fair amount of them. 354 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,000 Well all the ones that were alive were saved. 355 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,040 And the other, the other key part of that was that we saw, or take us, get badly injured 356 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,880 in the event. 357 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:14,520 And Lahan go through a, I want to call the spirit of the experience. 358 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,240 Yes, she went through her, she seemed to have resolved her PTSD. 359 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,240 Right. 360 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,040 So that all happened. 361 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:29,200 We then go to three months later after the ship has been restored. 362 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,880 You know, Chappelle has got our chapel. 363 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,000 So you should say, Chappelle, what? 364 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,000 Dave Chappelle. 365 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:43,760 Just push and her, just push, push and her American speaking counterpart, their nurse, 366 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,880 Christine Chappelle, go off for her three months sabbatical with what's, what's his name? 367 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,080 Oh yeah, that's right. 368 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,080 Nobody likes him. 369 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,080 Dr. Rory. 370 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,880 Well, look, he's, he's not a bad dude. 371 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,800 It's the third wheel right now in terms of what, where they want to see, is it, is it, is 372 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,800 it really? 373 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:02,800 Because I don't think it is. 374 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:10,800 Anyway, so she went off to, you know, Darby Kirby, Trent, you know, Teres Trent Darby, 375 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:11,800 whatever. 376 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,960 As I'm making jokes about it. 377 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,960 Yes. 378 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,960 She went off and did this. 379 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,960 Roger Kirby, by the way. 380 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Roger Kirby. 381 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Yes, I know. 382 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:20,960 I'm having fun with it. 383 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,360 Anyway, she went off with Kirby, comes back, brings, Kirby back as her date for the Centennial 384 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:28,160 Celebration of Starfleet. 385 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,040 Wap, wap, wap. 386 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,160 Now I said this at the time and then we will lead up to this later, but I said there is 387 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,440 something happening between LaHan and Spock. 388 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,440 What? 389 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,440 No. 390 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:47,880 When we first, in the time when we first saw it, we said, nah, they can't be going that direction. 391 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:55,640 Well, again, it was pretty darn obvious because, yeah, yeah, on the one hand and to be 392 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:02,480 protective about Spock, he is totally a rebound sort of dude. 393 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,720 Yeah. 394 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,720 Right? 395 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,720 Yeah. 396 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:12,800 There is the more I watch the episodes, the more I think of the original series, the 397 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:18,800 more I realize to pull is totally justified in, in the, trying to move on. 398 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,800 Yeah. 399 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,680 In the worst way possible because Balkans don't know, they, they apparently are unemotional 400 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,280 and all that stuff and yet they hold the biggest grudges. 401 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,280 Exactly. 402 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,120 Because all can be little bitches to begin with. 403 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:37,320 So we go through that one where we have Trilane/Q, call back to the original series, call 404 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:45,080 back to an amazing fan theory that existed for years and confirm now because John Delancey 405 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,920 performed the voice of Q calling on his son to stop playing around and come home like 406 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,800 you're supposed to and be a good boy. 407 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:57,880 Just for accuracy, sake, though, according to the official listing, wrist Darby's character 408 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,400 is not Trilane. 409 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,960 No, it's not Trilane. 410 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,560 The wedding planner. 411 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,160 Of course, that's what he referred to himself as the whole time. 412 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:10,920 And John Delancey is not listed as Q. He is listed as alien parent. 413 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,640 Yes, which is still Q. 414 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:19,520 And he, one who knows anything about Trek is going to look at that and go really of all 415 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,520 the voices. 416 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,200 Yes, so there's all the voices. 417 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,200 Okay. 418 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,720 So then, so we get through that and all the, the shenanigans you go on there. 419 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,720 Yes. 420 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,400 A lot of, a lot of funniness. 421 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,440 There was a lot of, a whole variety of spot coming to realization. 422 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,520 No, this is not right. 423 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,400 I'm not supposed to marry Christine. 424 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,920 And that all coming out. 425 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,480 But then we get to episode three. 426 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:48,720 So now we're, you know, Marie is, is trying to recover after the whole Goren incident where 427 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:57,640 she's got Goren bits inside her and they use Una's blood as a transfusion. 428 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:07,080 And now effectively making her Una's sister to try and fight off the, the, the foreign infection 429 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,800 in her body somewhat successfully. 430 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,440 And that's when we find that it's not as successful as they hoped it would be. 431 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:21,080 And her body is actually still having problems with Goren materials. 432 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,960 And so there's, there's a solution. 433 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,400 It's a chimera flower that allows them to create a extract. 434 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:36,360 There's a treatment that's going to integrate the Goren DNA into Marie as a, on the long term 435 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:37,520 basis. 436 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,200 And that's the only way she's going to survive. 437 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:48,040 The plan was for Spock and Embangue to go and do this so that Pike was completely isolated 438 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,120 and had no idea this was happening. 439 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,920 But of course, Pike using his captain's prerogative says, no, I'm going. 440 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,920 Because this is my, this is Marie. 441 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,000 She's my responsibility. 442 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,720 I'm doing this. 443 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,160 And he then finds out the truth. 444 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,840 The fact that they played off that Mabinga and Spock share a look just before it cuts the 445 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,840 next bit is now not so so foreshadowed. 446 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:17,240 But the, the, the second part of this story is the cling, they're actually behind the 447 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,640 cling on lines and the cling on's don't want them there. 448 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,820 And they've, they've landed on a no man's own planet to go and find this flower and the 449 00:29:25,820 --> 00:29:27,600 cling on's come after them. 450 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:33,000 Not because there are in the no man's land, but because Embangue is there and Embangue 451 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,920 is the killer of the butcher. 452 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,440 Ha ha, he is the butcher. 453 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,160 Ha ha, they don't know that. 454 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:45,040 So the, the cling on, the cling on daughter had been, basically heard, heard honor had 455 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:53,280 been disgraced and they were removed from the, from the council because of this murder. 456 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,760 She was supposed to go and kill her, her father because that would be within the honor of 457 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,760 the, of the clan. 458 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,800 But so for those, so now she has to go and kill Embangue. 459 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,800 Yeah. 460 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,240 To, to figure things out, it's, it's cling on politics at its highest, right? 461 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,760 It's, it's so shake, spearing, it will make sense in that way. 462 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,760 Yeah. 463 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:20,480 That she wasn't happy and obviously the dishonor that her father brought because he went from 464 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,240 being the butcher of Jigal to trying to sue for peace. 465 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,240 Yeah. 466 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:33,200 Now, now even better than that is then, and even better than that is then the third through 467 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:39,200 line, which is Star Trek versus Zombies, which again, they're not supposed to use the 468 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:45,120 Z word, or at least, oh, Embangue specifically said, no, no, no, no, no, no. 469 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,120 Hold on, hold on. 470 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,120 No, no, it's even better than that. 471 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,440 It's Star Trek versus the walking dead. 472 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,440 Yes. 473 00:30:50,440 --> 00:31:00,320 Well, either way, so they go to this planet, they find, they find the flower. 474 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,560 And as they're going through, they run into a few complications, mainly to find body parts. 475 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,180 And they're like, OK, maybe this is left over from the war. 476 00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:11,780 And all senses point to there's no life signs. 477 00:31:11,780 --> 00:31:12,780 There's no life signs. 478 00:31:12,780 --> 00:31:14,680 Nothing's coming up. 479 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:21,720 And at first you kind of get the sense of, oh, no, are they going Jurassic Park with it? 480 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,180 Because, you know, we see them through a forest. 481 00:31:25,180 --> 00:31:28,140 And then we get the classic, we're in a lab. 482 00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:32,380 And then the zombies, the not, the not Z words wake up. 483 00:31:32,380 --> 00:31:33,380 Yeah. 484 00:31:33,380 --> 00:31:36,100 We use fraud DNA for the gaps in their sequence. 485 00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:37,100 Yeah. 486 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:38,100 Yes. 487 00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:44,420 They've clearly shown that they're both like human, humanoid and Klingon. 488 00:31:44,420 --> 00:31:45,420 Yeah. 489 00:31:45,420 --> 00:31:46,420 That are coming after them. 490 00:31:46,420 --> 00:31:57,360 So it's kind of an awkward interplay where they finally sign on with the Klingons who don't 491 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,300 quite rescue them, but they want to do it honorably. 492 00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:05,980 And of course, while they're trying to move through the facility anytime they get attacked 493 00:32:05,980 --> 00:32:07,940 and someone gets bitten. 494 00:32:07,940 --> 00:32:10,380 Instant vaporization and death. 495 00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:11,380 Yeah. 496 00:32:11,380 --> 00:32:13,380 Kill them before they can kill anyone else. 497 00:32:13,380 --> 00:32:15,860 Well, yeah, that's the Klingon way, I suppose. 498 00:32:15,860 --> 00:32:21,180 At one point when they do manage to get out, they get to an energy field generating device. 499 00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:22,180 They get the shields on. 500 00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:27,500 They're trying to figure things out in between the course of that, the main quote, unquote, 501 00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:31,700 villain, if you can call her that, decides, oh shoot, they're going to run away without 502 00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:32,700 me. 503 00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:35,620 So she decides, no, I'm going to keep them with me. 504 00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:36,820 I want them right where I want them. 505 00:32:36,820 --> 00:32:41,340 I'm going to stab Pike of the Lake. 506 00:32:41,340 --> 00:32:45,620 So of course, at least there wasn't poison on that dagger because normally there would have 507 00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:47,420 been poison on there, right? 508 00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:49,260 No, no, no, no. 509 00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:51,100 That's only house of jurors. 510 00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:53,100 Oh, sorry, that's jurors. 511 00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,100 That's right. 512 00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:55,580 She was not house of jurors. 513 00:32:55,580 --> 00:32:56,580 Yes. 514 00:32:56,580 --> 00:33:03,220 Like the catch is, I think through the episode you get the sense that Mumbenga understand 515 00:33:03,220 --> 00:33:06,020 the Klingon sensibilities, right? 516 00:33:06,020 --> 00:33:10,820 I mean, there's a whole line where Pike is like, what's the point of this? 517 00:33:10,820 --> 00:33:17,580 And Mumbenga looks to him and says, like, yeah, there won't be any official records, but for 518 00:33:17,580 --> 00:33:26,660 her, her honor is satisfied because she's not, she's going out of hero. 519 00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:35,980 So effectively, someone who is antagonistic to our friends decides, wait a second, I 520 00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:41,420 can't do this, killing him won't bring my father back nor will it bring back honor. 521 00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:43,900 I need to go out into blaze of glory. 522 00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:49,820 And Mumbenga's last words to her is me, Stovacoro, Gates await you. 523 00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:51,540 Yes. 524 00:33:51,540 --> 00:33:57,780 Which again, you start to realize to even points out that he can beat her at any time because 525 00:33:57,780 --> 00:34:02,620 he is literally the John Wick of the Star Trek universe. 526 00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:03,620 Yeah. 527 00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:09,940 But the fact that he says I didn't have to bring up the monster today. 528 00:34:09,940 --> 00:34:10,940 Yeah, yeah. 529 00:34:10,940 --> 00:34:14,860 Now, as you'll realize the mystery. 530 00:34:14,860 --> 00:34:21,060 And the end of this episode, we still do not know whether or not this has helped Marie. 531 00:34:21,060 --> 00:34:26,980 Well they point out too that if, even if they do do it, it's not, it will save her, but 532 00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:29,460 it could also radically change her. 533 00:34:29,460 --> 00:34:32,300 So she may not be fully human anymore. 534 00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:37,660 And keep my, you went from someone who had to keep the, and uphold the law of star fleet 535 00:34:37,660 --> 00:34:44,220 who now got a transfusion from an alien who is effectively illegal alien in star fleet 536 00:34:44,220 --> 00:34:51,860 to now having alien babies that are trying to rip into her, you know, yes, it has not been 537 00:34:51,860 --> 00:34:54,140 a good couple of years for a battel. 538 00:34:54,140 --> 00:34:55,460 No, there's not. 539 00:34:55,460 --> 00:35:01,220 So anyway, let's, let's go through that episode into the fourth episode. 540 00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:04,780 The fourth episode is again, it's another romp through fun. 541 00:35:04,780 --> 00:35:08,780 And this is the one we've been waiting for because it had two things that we saw in the 542 00:35:08,780 --> 00:35:11,820 trailers that we were really looking forward to. 543 00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:22,420 The first was this campy 1950s sci-fi thing with Paul Wesley as, as a Kirk-esque captain 544 00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:25,900 on a really wacky sci-fi bridge. 545 00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:29,740 Well, the thing was called a space adventure hour. 546 00:35:29,740 --> 00:35:30,740 Yeah. 547 00:35:30,740 --> 00:35:37,060 Then we had, you know, Lon Nunean Singh as Carmen Sandiego. 548 00:35:37,060 --> 00:35:43,500 Well, no, Carmen Sandiego was a criminal and trying to get out of things. 549 00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:44,500 But we're in the world. 550 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:47,860 We're in the world as Carmen Sandiego was kind of where the show went because that's what 551 00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:48,860 they were trying to do. 552 00:35:48,860 --> 00:35:49,860 Oh, it's trying to solve. 553 00:35:49,860 --> 00:35:53,780 Trying to go that way, but she like, look, well, it was, okay, it was a cross between 554 00:35:53,780 --> 00:35:56,820 Peggy Carter and Carmen Sandiego. 555 00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:58,300 Dixon Hill. 556 00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:02,380 Actually, yes, and more Dixon Hill without Dixon Hill. 557 00:36:02,380 --> 00:36:03,380 Yes. 558 00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:04,660 Which is kind of interesting. 559 00:36:04,660 --> 00:36:07,060 They went with Agnes Moon, wasn't it? 560 00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:08,540 Because Moon Hill. 561 00:36:08,540 --> 00:36:09,540 Yes. 562 00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:10,540 Look, man. 563 00:36:10,540 --> 00:36:17,140 But the whole premise was, Starfleet realizes that isolated people for five years is a long 564 00:36:17,140 --> 00:36:18,340 time. 565 00:36:18,340 --> 00:36:20,740 Any more than that and you're going to have cabin fever. 566 00:36:20,740 --> 00:36:21,740 Hey, guess what? 567 00:36:21,740 --> 00:36:25,180 We saw that in Star Trek Beyond. 568 00:36:25,180 --> 00:36:30,700 It sort of makes sense that, you know, if you have people isolated and locked, you have 569 00:36:30,700 --> 00:36:32,540 sent somebody in syndrome. 570 00:36:32,540 --> 00:36:36,020 There's only so much they can do until they have to come up for air and even then they're 571 00:36:36,020 --> 00:36:39,380 probably going to go crazy in the interim. 572 00:36:39,380 --> 00:36:46,460 So Starfleet is testing out new technology, stuff that we will be familiar with in the 573 00:36:46,460 --> 00:36:50,940 farther future that already happened in our past. 574 00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:53,260 Yes. 575 00:36:53,260 --> 00:36:59,660 Hopefully they want to release or have them test out a holodeck. 576 00:36:59,660 --> 00:37:03,140 So the catch is they have this integrated system that I think they got it. 577 00:37:03,140 --> 00:37:11,180 They installed it just before the conflory shuttle incident that was episode three. 578 00:37:11,180 --> 00:37:16,660 And they want to see, okay, can it stand up to the rigors of actual usage? 579 00:37:16,660 --> 00:37:17,660 Yes. 580 00:37:17,660 --> 00:37:18,660 Right. 581 00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:19,660 And of course. 582 00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:20,660 Yes. 583 00:37:20,660 --> 00:37:24,740 So they give it to Lawn to put it to space. 584 00:37:24,740 --> 00:37:25,740 They don't. 585 00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:30,340 Pike and Uda come up with this idea of, hey, we have this mission where we're just doing 586 00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:33,580 some stellar analysis, but we're going to get pretty close to a star. 587 00:37:33,580 --> 00:37:36,940 While that's going on to, we've been ordered by Starfleet. 588 00:37:36,940 --> 00:37:38,700 We need to test out this technology. 589 00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,300 It's like a game simulator. 590 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:47,540 Now we find out that Lawn being Lawn and the over little over achiever she is has said 591 00:37:47,540 --> 00:37:55,140 basically I beat it every single simulation like, you know, how hard can this be? 592 00:37:55,140 --> 00:38:00,660 And Uda literally says, okay, we'll kick the tires and see what you can do. 593 00:38:00,660 --> 00:38:01,660 They throw in the gun. 594 00:38:01,660 --> 00:38:02,860 Pointed she kicked the tires. 595 00:38:02,860 --> 00:38:03,860 Yes. 596 00:38:03,860 --> 00:38:09,820 They throw in the mcguffin of pattern buffers will require crew members. 597 00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:12,700 Basically they're the latest cans from the transporter logs. 598 00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:19,220 We're going to use those bodies as people in your simulation. 599 00:38:19,220 --> 00:38:23,580 Which was kind of interesting that they've got Kirk because when was Kirk last on and where 600 00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:25,780 was Marie? 601 00:38:25,780 --> 00:38:30,500 Because Marie was beamed in her, her pattern would have been in the buffer. 602 00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:32,900 And Sam Kirk, Sam Kirk should have been there. 603 00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:34,840 Sam Kirk wasn't there. 604 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,140 So there's there's patterns missing out of the buffer that should have been in the buffer. 605 00:38:38,140 --> 00:38:42,580 But anyway, well, based on the number of characters that they had there and of course, 606 00:38:42,580 --> 00:38:50,660 well, I have a feeling and they kind of explain this in the episode that, okay, jumping from 607 00:38:50,660 --> 00:38:58,440 the top of the episode, we get a very, very, campy version of what we will know and 608 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,180 love as Star Trek TOS without actually it being Star Trek TOS. 609 00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:07,460 You have a bunch of actors showing up, they're doing their thing, whacking this isn't 610 00:39:07,460 --> 00:39:15,380 pursuing and they have sort of the retro opening from the TOS series but with upgraded graphics. 611 00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:22,580 And God damn, I gotta say watching Paul Wesley go full ham Shatner. 612 00:39:22,580 --> 00:39:31,100 Oh, when he goes full-shat, I mean, he truly goes full-shatner and the lighting effects too 613 00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:32,100 were switches. 614 00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:36,640 Now, it's the three quarter lighting leftists, three quarter lighting right, it's just like, 615 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,940 oh my God, I didn't realize all that in the original show. 616 00:39:39,940 --> 00:39:47,180 Here's the catch, it felt like two different episodes in one. 617 00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:53,880 Three if you talk about the actual science and subplot but because you have the campiness 618 00:39:53,880 --> 00:40:01,860 of them saying we're gonna go, we're gonna roll fully with 60 70s era TOS, right? 619 00:40:01,860 --> 00:40:07,140 With that while tongue firmly planted in cheek. 620 00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:12,340 We're gonna reference the holodeck which we know and love from the 24th century. 621 00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:17,540 We're gonna roll with Dixon Hill without actually having Dixon Hill and we're gonna have 622 00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:22,020 them play accents, play different characters and chew the scenery. 623 00:40:22,020 --> 00:40:29,340 My God, the costumes and the acting choices for all of them. 624 00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:34,660 We're the exception of Ethan Peck who has to Ethan Peck it up by being Spock. 625 00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:35,660 Right. 626 00:40:35,660 --> 00:40:39,340 Laon changes her accent to an American detective. 627 00:40:39,340 --> 00:40:44,540 It can complete with like, you know, gritty teeth narration. 628 00:40:44,540 --> 00:40:52,100 Celia Gooding basically does the PR agent where she's, you know, shades at all times, Courier 629 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:53,100 Heart Style. 630 00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:56,820 But the interesting part about that one? 631 00:40:56,820 --> 00:40:59,700 She's continually looking for a cigarette lighter. 632 00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:05,460 She cannot get anything, she can't get a lighter anywhere in the whole of the story. 633 00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:07,740 She's looking for a lighter and she can't find a lighter. 634 00:41:07,740 --> 00:41:09,900 It was just priceless. 635 00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:16,620 It's the, is this the sensibilities of we don't show smoking on screen anymore? 636 00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:17,620 Yes. 637 00:41:17,620 --> 00:41:21,820 Well, they lapshade that right away because they're like, oh, you can, down to the smoke, you 638 00:41:21,820 --> 00:41:28,620 can smell it and Spock or at least what we think is Spock turns and says, yeah, please, 639 00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:31,660 I don't advise you smoking in the holodeck. 640 00:41:31,660 --> 00:41:32,660 Yeah. 641 00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:35,740 Which again, it's still a 21st century thing. 642 00:41:35,740 --> 00:41:38,860 There was a time where you'd see it on screen. 643 00:41:38,860 --> 00:41:48,020 Jess Bush is a lot of fun playing the almost spocking character at least in the retro TV series. 644 00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:53,340 Well, in the fact that she gets to play off, you know, get rid of the American accent and 645 00:41:53,340 --> 00:41:55,540 play something a little bit closer to home. 646 00:41:55,540 --> 00:42:00,020 Instead of her Australian accent, it was an English accent, but boy, oh boy, there was enough 647 00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:02,580 of her Australian that week through. 648 00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:03,580 Yes. 649 00:42:03,580 --> 00:42:08,140 You have a bang up being a baps, being a baps. 650 00:42:08,140 --> 00:42:09,140 Just having fun. 651 00:42:09,140 --> 00:42:11,940 Baps within it with that quasi-English accent. 652 00:42:11,940 --> 00:42:13,340 That was actually funny. 653 00:42:13,340 --> 00:42:17,580 Which he doesn't actually sound like that in real life and that's amazing. 654 00:42:17,580 --> 00:42:27,820 I gotta say though, the best visual gag has to be answered out. 655 00:42:27,820 --> 00:42:31,020 Well, you realize who he was supposed to be? 656 00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:32,020 Yes. 657 00:42:32,020 --> 00:42:34,780 That was Roddenberry. 658 00:42:34,780 --> 00:42:36,980 He was doing Gene Roddenberry. 659 00:42:36,980 --> 00:42:41,220 The hair, everything was Gene and I'm like, oh my God, it's Gene. 660 00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:48,420 I mean, they gave him a bit of a fat suit to put on under like the retro look. 661 00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:51,140 The fact that he doesn't smile, he's always constantly winsing. 662 00:42:51,140 --> 00:42:53,100 He doesn't have the confidence. 663 00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,220 He's a writer. 664 00:42:55,220 --> 00:42:56,220 It was just... 665 00:42:56,220 --> 00:42:59,980 But the other thing he did, that was Gene's voice. 666 00:42:59,980 --> 00:43:00,980 Yes. 667 00:43:00,980 --> 00:43:03,420 Gene was that soft voice. 668 00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:06,900 And I'm just like, oh my God, it's Gene. 669 00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:10,940 The fact that they told Anson Mount run with it. 670 00:43:10,940 --> 00:43:13,100 Oh yeah. 671 00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:17,220 So you get a lot more character development with that too. 672 00:43:17,220 --> 00:43:24,060 The B side story with regards to the shenanigans is the project is effectively under Scotty's 673 00:43:24,060 --> 00:43:25,540 control. 674 00:43:25,540 --> 00:43:31,340 And our poor Scotty, our poor Scotty, that is learning that he has to trust everyone, 675 00:43:31,340 --> 00:43:35,100 but he's still the master of the 11th hour of the miracle. 676 00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:37,100 No, no, no, no, no. 677 00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:38,100 Neota. 678 00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:39,100 Hypothetically. 679 00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:45,180 If I have lost communication with Lehan in the holodeck. 680 00:43:45,180 --> 00:43:47,340 What do I do? 681 00:43:47,340 --> 00:43:49,420 What do I do? 682 00:43:49,420 --> 00:43:52,180 Well see, let's figure things out. 683 00:43:52,180 --> 00:43:56,940 Celia or Neota Hura is always going to be the real hero. 684 00:43:56,940 --> 00:43:58,740 She's the true MVP of the ship. 685 00:43:58,740 --> 00:43:59,740 Oh, always has to. 686 00:43:59,740 --> 00:44:00,740 Right, yeah. 687 00:44:00,740 --> 00:44:08,580 It's just, she's in there going, okay, hypothetically, because I'm totally buying that it's hypothetical. 688 00:44:08,580 --> 00:44:10,580 You need to do this now. 689 00:44:10,580 --> 00:44:14,340 But you understand that wasn't hypothetical. 690 00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:17,300 Yes, I got it. 691 00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:18,300 Just that line, right? 692 00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:20,700 It was just pricelessly played. 693 00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:27,140 I think the big thing that came out of this is a realization by Lehan. 694 00:44:27,140 --> 00:44:34,980 So the first part is she realizes in the middle of the game that's the Spock who's with her 695 00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:38,340 in the holodeck is the culprit. 696 00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:44,660 She's the killer because she asked for someone that could beat her. 697 00:44:44,660 --> 00:44:51,300 It's the same mistake that data made with Jordy in the Moriarty episode. 698 00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:57,900 Give me a criminal that can beat data, not beat Holmes beat data. 699 00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:00,860 And that's where they got caught before with the Moriarty experiment. 700 00:45:00,860 --> 00:45:01,860 Yeah. 701 00:45:01,860 --> 00:45:03,580 Well keep in mind, you take a look at it. 702 00:45:03,580 --> 00:45:05,140 There's chemistry there. 703 00:45:05,140 --> 00:45:11,860 And the clue that should have jumped out right from the very beginning is right when line 704 00:45:11,860 --> 00:45:16,100 walks in in period piece ready to start it up. 705 00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:18,700 Spock appears. 706 00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:19,700 Spock was there. 707 00:45:19,700 --> 00:45:22,220 No, Spock appears. 708 00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:25,220 She walks in, he's in the room when she walks in. 709 00:45:25,220 --> 00:45:26,700 He's already there. 710 00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:30,100 Yes, I thought you'd completed your diagnostics. 711 00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:31,620 He didn't appear out of nowhere. 712 00:45:31,620 --> 00:45:36,100 And they cut that scene, he was already in the deck. 713 00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:41,620 I thought it was there because you do hear the you do hear the arch and you hear the door 714 00:45:41,620 --> 00:45:46,060 open right later on when she calls for help and need Spock. 715 00:45:46,060 --> 00:45:49,900 So here the sound of the arch appearing and coming in. 716 00:45:49,900 --> 00:45:50,900 You don't see it. 717 00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:56,060 So, so that scene is from the inside of the holodeck and all you've got is the arch and 718 00:45:56,060 --> 00:45:57,060 the door is open. 719 00:45:57,060 --> 00:46:01,860 And the horn walks in and Spock's there and she said, I thought you were done with your diagnostic. 720 00:46:01,860 --> 00:46:07,820 I was just checking the last few things and then start program. 721 00:46:07,820 --> 00:46:09,100 Who started the program? 722 00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:11,620 Not Lehan, Spock did. 723 00:46:11,620 --> 00:46:17,340 So the program was already running with Spock. 724 00:46:17,340 --> 00:46:20,820 I didn't catch it until I actually went back and thought about it. 725 00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:23,900 But that's Spock initiates the program. 726 00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:28,380 So therefore he's already in the program. 727 00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:31,380 It's classic holodeck trickery. 728 00:46:31,380 --> 00:46:35,660 So we have that with regards to a whole murder mystery. 729 00:46:35,660 --> 00:46:44,140 It's couched around like a science fiction show that very looks very much like Star Trek 730 00:46:44,140 --> 00:46:48,500 with a 50 like 60's can be Star Trek. 731 00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:54,220 Yes, with the overacting and the funky costumes, etc. 732 00:46:54,220 --> 00:47:00,260 On top of that we have Enterprise out in space and it was really interesting in that 733 00:47:00,260 --> 00:47:05,620 drawing sense where the episode starts off with the campiness. 734 00:47:05,620 --> 00:47:10,100 The main credits roll and you don't get the usual title cast members. 735 00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:15,300 You get the retro kind of feel for that show. 736 00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:20,780 Then it cuts to the Enterprise in freaking gorgeous beauty shot. 737 00:47:20,780 --> 00:47:26,180 Yeah, come on. 738 00:47:26,180 --> 00:47:32,180 It's yeah, I'm not going to say it, but we're all thinking it, man, it was pretty. 739 00:47:32,180 --> 00:47:33,180 They were going there. 740 00:47:33,180 --> 00:47:37,740 You see the dwarf they're going up to. 741 00:47:37,740 --> 00:47:43,740 And then when it goes Nova, they realize, huh? 742 00:47:43,740 --> 00:47:46,180 We have issues. 743 00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:49,180 Why can't we pull up shields? 744 00:47:49,180 --> 00:47:56,580 Right, so it's almost like they forgot that we have this holodeck thing running, but 745 00:47:56,580 --> 00:48:02,420 again, it's taking up a lot of processing power for them to run a single person's program, 746 00:48:02,420 --> 00:48:06,420 which is kind of interesting. 747 00:48:06,420 --> 00:48:11,780 We also get some depth with regards to the Spok-Lon relationship because they're going to come 748 00:48:11,780 --> 00:48:20,100 back to the dancing at the interviews over at SDCC when they had the cast there. 749 00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:26,240 They very much pointed out that there's a lot of dancing rehearsals that her and Ethan 750 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:34,100 Peck had to do to pull it off. 751 00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:41,460 Speaking of which, and yes, mid-mid-episode plug, she has a new single that's out and she 752 00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:45,860 has put in pre-orders for her album. 753 00:48:45,860 --> 00:48:50,580 So there's that, some cross-prime-all from one of our favorites. 754 00:48:50,580 --> 00:48:56,820 Either way, the day is saved and then they do something that I didn't expect them to do 755 00:48:56,820 --> 00:48:59,260 and I've gone back and re-watched it. 756 00:48:59,260 --> 00:49:08,100 It's the, we're going to give you the blooper reel from the show and they're hamming it up. 757 00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:09,100 Oh, with Freaks? 758 00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:13,900 With Jonathan in the background and left and right. 759 00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:19,140 Yes, but Paul Wesley trying to riker over top of the captain's chair. 760 00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:23,380 And either he's too short or the back is too tall and the thing literally explodes on 761 00:49:23,380 --> 00:49:25,380 him is just amazing. 762 00:49:25,380 --> 00:49:28,900 So he had a lot of fun. 763 00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:29,900 No. 764 00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:30,900 Either way. 765 00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:34,340 Let's store ratings on the two shows. 766 00:49:34,340 --> 00:49:39,060 So episode three is eight and a half. 767 00:49:39,060 --> 00:49:41,740 Okay. 768 00:49:41,740 --> 00:49:49,620 It's what I expect Star Trek to be with the scares, the drama, everything was there. 769 00:49:49,620 --> 00:49:53,620 It was, yeah, everything I expected that to happen. 770 00:49:53,620 --> 00:50:03,420 Mainly because it felt weirdly, it felt the most doctor-who of the episodes. 771 00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:07,820 The doctor, our good doctor, Dr. Mabenga, notwithstanding. 772 00:50:07,820 --> 00:50:13,260 It felt closest to that sort of horror element of it where we know that the heroes are going 773 00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:15,140 to make it through. 774 00:50:15,140 --> 00:50:16,460 How are they going to do it? 775 00:50:16,460 --> 00:50:21,420 And with the great kind of zombie-ish horror elements, that was a lot of fun. 776 00:50:21,420 --> 00:50:22,860 Oh, man. 777 00:50:22,860 --> 00:50:28,980 I don't know how to rate episode four because on the one hand it was entertaining. 778 00:50:28,980 --> 00:50:30,980 Is it the best episode? 779 00:50:30,980 --> 00:50:31,980 No. 780 00:50:31,980 --> 00:50:34,020 Was it a lot of good character building? 781 00:50:34,020 --> 00:50:35,020 Yes. 782 00:50:35,020 --> 00:50:39,260 It's probably their one whimsy episode for the series season. 783 00:50:39,260 --> 00:50:41,300 I feel. 784 00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:48,820 But I don't know. 785 00:50:48,820 --> 00:50:49,820 It's a solid eight. 786 00:50:49,820 --> 00:50:52,060 I'm not going to give it higher than that. 787 00:50:52,060 --> 00:50:53,060 Yeah. 788 00:50:53,060 --> 00:50:58,860 It's not as, it's not where I expected it was going to be. 789 00:50:58,860 --> 00:51:00,980 It was, don't get me wrong. 790 00:51:00,980 --> 00:51:05,540 I kind of want to put it between 7.5 and 8, right? 791 00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:10,220 Yeah, it's not because I didn't like the episode. 792 00:51:10,220 --> 00:51:13,060 But as a standalone, it felt disjointed. 793 00:51:13,060 --> 00:51:17,300 It felt like there were three or four storylines in as much as they're supposed to tie together. 794 00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:19,540 They felt kind of floaty. 795 00:51:19,540 --> 00:51:21,060 Yeah. 796 00:51:21,060 --> 00:51:25,260 That's the best I can give it. 797 00:51:25,260 --> 00:51:27,780 Yeah, I would tend to- 798 00:51:27,780 --> 00:51:28,780 That's a lot of fun. 799 00:51:28,780 --> 00:51:31,780 I'm going to say it's probably 8.18.2. 800 00:51:31,780 --> 00:51:37,620 Now, here's the back track that we didn't talk to, which ties us back to the top end of 801 00:51:37,620 --> 00:51:41,700 the show in San Diego Comic Con stuff. 802 00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:44,900 There was a strange new world's interview. 803 00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:46,980 And it was Paul Wesley. 804 00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:50,180 It was Rebecca Romaine. 805 00:51:50,180 --> 00:51:52,940 It was Jess Bush. 806 00:51:52,940 --> 00:51:58,060 And it was Christina Chong with the creators sitting behind them. 807 00:51:58,060 --> 00:52:00,420 Yeah, he's in fact, was there too? 808 00:52:00,420 --> 00:52:03,540 Well, in this case, Ethan wasn't there at this point. 809 00:52:03,540 --> 00:52:04,540 Oh. 810 00:52:04,540 --> 00:52:07,980 They talked about, you know, the show is going to be wrapping up. 811 00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:10,540 We know season four, season five. 812 00:52:10,540 --> 00:52:13,780 What are you going to steal from set? 813 00:52:13,780 --> 00:52:16,300 Right? 814 00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:20,460 And, you know, Christina is like, I definitely want a set of the boots. 815 00:52:20,460 --> 00:52:22,460 I want my uniform. 816 00:52:22,460 --> 00:52:26,820 But someone said, and I think it was Jess said something about Ethan's ears. 817 00:52:26,820 --> 00:52:30,980 And Christina's comment, I already have some. 818 00:52:30,980 --> 00:52:38,060 Well, gee, they've been spreading a lot of time together. 819 00:52:38,060 --> 00:52:40,180 Well, and this ties back to something. 820 00:52:40,180 --> 00:52:45,980 So Comic Con was the last year you went, no, was this passport? 821 00:52:45,980 --> 00:52:49,140 When were you there when Christina and Ethan were there? 822 00:52:49,140 --> 00:52:52,900 And you got last year and you got the CD signed. 823 00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:58,260 And yes, Ethan was standing and he'd heard Christina's new song and said how good it was because 824 00:52:58,260 --> 00:53:02,740 they'd been working on it because it's the one he recorded with her that just came out. 825 00:53:02,740 --> 00:53:04,180 No, no, no, no, no. 826 00:53:04,180 --> 00:53:06,180 So here's the catch. 827 00:53:06,180 --> 00:53:08,580 They lined up all the Star Trek folks together. 828 00:53:08,580 --> 00:53:12,060 So they batch group them like every good Comic Con does. 829 00:53:12,060 --> 00:53:13,780 You have Christina there. 830 00:53:13,780 --> 00:53:16,020 You have everyone fan-boying over Spock. 831 00:53:16,020 --> 00:53:18,460 So he had the longer lineup. 832 00:53:18,460 --> 00:53:19,460 Right. 833 00:53:19,460 --> 00:53:20,460 At the time. 834 00:53:20,460 --> 00:53:22,460 Of course, because it's Spock. 835 00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:29,980 When I happen to go up there, I had her CD in which case that's why she had a lot of fun 836 00:53:29,980 --> 00:53:30,980 with it. 837 00:53:30,980 --> 00:53:34,020 And then I asked, well, is there anything else in the public when's your next release? 838 00:53:34,020 --> 00:53:37,180 Because I come working on stuff, we're playing with some ideas. 839 00:53:37,180 --> 00:53:40,420 The song she played me was not the first release that she had. 840 00:53:40,420 --> 00:53:43,220 It was just her, right? 841 00:53:43,220 --> 00:53:48,420 Of course, it was very hard to not get distracted A by her prettiness, B by Runa. 842 00:53:48,420 --> 00:53:50,820 Because Runa is just ridiculously cute for a dog. 843 00:53:50,820 --> 00:53:51,820 Yes. 844 00:53:51,820 --> 00:53:55,380 She's there and she's, oh, I feel bad. 845 00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:59,940 The way that it played off is she says, oh, I feel bad. 846 00:53:59,940 --> 00:54:03,220 Ethans had to hear this so many times. 847 00:54:03,220 --> 00:54:05,660 And I'm like, well, you can play it anyways. 848 00:54:05,660 --> 00:54:06,660 Was my plea. 849 00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:07,820 And she said, okay, just give me a second. 850 00:54:07,820 --> 00:54:11,460 And she turned over and she calls over the table to Ethan. 851 00:54:11,460 --> 00:54:12,460 Yeah. 852 00:54:12,460 --> 00:54:18,900 Who, like I said, did the most spockiest thing of like the look up and turn over? 853 00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:21,060 And she says, oh, do you mind if I play this again? 854 00:54:21,060 --> 00:54:22,060 I know you've heard it. 855 00:54:22,060 --> 00:54:24,300 So no, no, I like your music. 856 00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:25,300 Yeah. 857 00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:26,300 Right? 858 00:54:26,300 --> 00:54:31,780 So it's an interesting thing where they did that. 859 00:54:31,780 --> 00:54:36,340 And then when they started, when she started talking about it at the top of the year and 860 00:54:36,340 --> 00:54:44,620 you saw collab videos on her socials where he's clearly doing vocals and they're together 861 00:54:44,620 --> 00:54:46,620 doing music. 862 00:54:46,620 --> 00:54:47,620 Right? 863 00:54:47,620 --> 00:54:53,180 Now, granted, I think this is post the fact that you had the musical episode and you 864 00:54:53,180 --> 00:54:55,860 know, he did a fair amount of heavy lifting in that one himself. 865 00:54:55,860 --> 00:54:56,860 Yes, I did. 866 00:54:56,860 --> 00:55:03,500 But Ethan Peck is a fairly mum tassetern sort of person at least. 867 00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:05,660 That's how he presents, right? 868 00:55:05,660 --> 00:55:07,980 Because we don't eat. 869 00:55:07,980 --> 00:55:09,340 Not when I had a picture with him. 870 00:55:09,340 --> 00:55:12,500 He's all smiles and just very gregarious. 871 00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:17,540 No, but like the take a look at the social media personalities, right? 872 00:55:17,540 --> 00:55:18,540 Stashes always. 873 00:55:18,540 --> 00:55:20,060 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 874 00:55:20,060 --> 00:55:21,060 Right? 875 00:55:21,060 --> 00:55:26,740 Ants amount does has done podcasts and not that he's media trained. 876 00:55:26,740 --> 00:55:30,900 But the more I look at him, the more I was like, the answer he's giving and how he presents 877 00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:37,260 it is very much synonymous with how pike or a stranger world's pike would run run 878 00:55:37,260 --> 00:55:38,260 things. 879 00:55:38,260 --> 00:55:39,260 Right? 880 00:55:39,260 --> 00:55:46,100 Rebecca Rameen has been media has been media trained since forever back in the X-Men 881 00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:47,100 days. 882 00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:50,340 And so I think it's more of that, right? 883 00:55:50,340 --> 00:55:55,100 Celia Gooding is a Broadway star, right? 884 00:55:55,100 --> 00:56:02,300 So you have some people are going to be more media forward. 885 00:56:02,300 --> 00:56:09,140 Ethan Peck, despite his lineage, does not feel like one of those typical media forward folks 886 00:56:09,140 --> 00:56:14,860 that we've come to see from some start-up folks is what I'm saying. 887 00:56:14,860 --> 00:56:18,100 But then you know, you and I have been calling it where I was like, either they're leading 888 00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:25,100 to the romance in series as a natural thing or the fact that a, they were together on 889 00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:30,100 the conspot, which is, which doesn't say anything because you were, because he was doing stuff 890 00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:33,020 with Ants and Mount 2, right? 891 00:56:33,020 --> 00:56:37,420 Which is, you know, typical, right? 892 00:56:37,420 --> 00:56:41,940 But then the music happened and then the fact that they're doing that and there seems 893 00:56:41,940 --> 00:56:44,580 to be some obvious chemistry, right? 894 00:56:44,580 --> 00:56:50,820 From episode two where all of a sudden Spock is dancing with Lawn and they're, they're 895 00:56:50,820 --> 00:56:53,940 giving each other a look and you're like, really? 896 00:56:53,940 --> 00:57:00,260 Well, and when we get to that very last scene in the episode where it's a lip-lock between 897 00:57:00,260 --> 00:57:08,020 Spock and Lawn, yeah, we've got romance brewing there on the, on the, you know, on the bridge. 898 00:57:08,020 --> 00:57:14,460 Well, keep in mind and it's, I don't want to say that everything has been lamp shaded 899 00:57:14,460 --> 00:57:21,460 by Star Trek beyond, but they point out the fact that when you're on an extended mission 900 00:57:21,460 --> 00:57:29,540 and you're in the, like you walk the same corridors with at this point, 203 people for five 901 00:57:29,540 --> 00:57:35,300 years, there's going to be makeups, there's going to be breakups, and there's going to be 902 00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:39,060 all sorts of shenanigans in between. 903 00:57:39,060 --> 00:57:47,940 Yeah, so, but speaking of shenanigans, as we've been doing for the summer, there's been 904 00:57:47,940 --> 00:57:50,700 a weekly stuff with regards to Rift Kickers. 905 00:57:50,700 --> 00:57:58,380 Oh my God, you guys just about made me nuts again. 906 00:57:58,380 --> 00:58:03,580 So this time it was the, we had to have the March along with the Caravan. 907 00:58:03,580 --> 00:58:04,580 Yes. 908 00:58:04,580 --> 00:58:12,020 I threw you guys a couple of real, I was a real bastard because who was running the Caravan? 909 00:58:12,020 --> 00:58:14,020 Kevin Bacon. 910 00:58:14,020 --> 00:58:18,660 Well, you know, you had telegraphed it. 911 00:58:18,660 --> 00:58:19,660 We know what it was. 912 00:58:19,660 --> 00:58:24,020 And his, and his, and his cohort, Christophe Penn. 913 00:58:24,020 --> 00:58:31,540 Well, I mean, I should have pointed out that, or I should have said, hey, does anyone else 914 00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:36,340 feel the ground quake? 915 00:58:36,340 --> 00:58:43,420 You know, well, you know, but, you know, this is that of a loss of Peter. 916 00:58:43,420 --> 00:58:47,540 But remember at the beginning of the next, the beginning of the next episode, when you 917 00:58:47,540 --> 00:58:52,460 are released from your responsibilities to the Caravan, you will be given the six degrees 918 00:58:52,460 --> 00:58:54,020 of Kevin Bacon. 919 00:58:54,020 --> 00:58:55,020 Yes. 920 00:58:55,020 --> 00:59:01,700 So either way, it was a Caravan escort mission. 921 00:59:01,700 --> 00:59:08,980 Went through a forest, happened to, upon what's obviously a trap that everyone knew. 922 00:59:08,980 --> 00:59:11,020 They were dealt with accordingly. 923 00:59:11,020 --> 00:59:17,940 I got to say the MVP for combat was Morelia. 924 00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:19,940 Oh, yeah. 925 00:59:19,940 --> 00:59:23,180 Well, you know, white bears can't jump. 926 00:59:23,180 --> 00:59:24,620 Like holy crap. 927 00:59:24,620 --> 00:59:26,500 You was rolling well. 928 00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:31,100 The kids did really well at school, but holy crap. 929 00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:35,340 Were the bad guys getting dusted. 930 00:59:35,340 --> 00:59:39,540 Yeah. 931 00:59:39,540 --> 00:59:43,580 It's interesting where like, if let's say we need to, we need to keep one alive without killing 932 00:59:43,580 --> 00:59:45,540 them. 933 00:59:45,540 --> 00:59:50,260 How difficult it is to do that. 934 00:59:50,260 --> 00:59:54,100 I was advised that hey, if you're grappling with someone, you can pin them and you can 935 00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:58,220 stop them from attacking anyone. 936 00:59:58,220 --> 01:00:07,820 Because yes, Simey had to put his foot down to prevent someone from being annoying. 937 01:00:07,820 --> 01:00:12,380 So there's that either way, we successfully survived the Caravan escort mission. 938 01:00:12,380 --> 01:00:14,100 We got to a forest. 939 01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:15,580 Is it a village? 940 01:00:15,580 --> 01:00:18,020 To a village in the forest. 941 01:00:18,020 --> 01:00:19,340 At the edge of the forest. 942 01:00:19,340 --> 01:00:20,340 Yes. 943 01:00:20,340 --> 01:00:25,660 And you countered a new humanoid thing that you have called the Riftborn. 944 01:00:25,660 --> 01:00:26,660 Yes. 945 01:00:26,660 --> 01:00:31,180 Now, you and I discussed the post game. 946 01:00:31,180 --> 01:00:37,140 And I had to look at you and go, were you trying to do your version of Enrico Colantoni 947 01:00:37,140 --> 01:00:40,780 by way of the silence? 948 01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:48,060 You know how we do the voices. 949 01:00:48,060 --> 01:00:51,940 It was either you're doing that or you're doing Kermit. 950 01:00:51,940 --> 01:00:53,940 And I wasn't sure. 951 01:00:53,940 --> 01:00:56,900 Oh no, it wasn't Kermity Frog. 952 01:00:56,900 --> 01:01:00,260 Well, it's a much more slowed Kermit either way. 953 01:01:00,260 --> 01:01:01,260 It was anyway. 954 01:01:01,260 --> 01:01:04,780 You know, they were supposed to have a slow, yeah. 955 01:01:04,780 --> 01:01:06,580 Yeah, it was good combat. 956 01:01:06,580 --> 01:01:12,940 You guys dealt with the brigands and you dealt with the dire wolves far faster than I expected 957 01:01:12,940 --> 01:01:13,940 you to. 958 01:01:13,940 --> 01:01:17,660 But yeah, it still took you two hours to get to that point. 959 01:01:17,660 --> 01:01:20,420 Which is why it only took 15 minutes then to get to the rest of the village and to deal 960 01:01:20,420 --> 01:01:21,420 with the village. 961 01:01:21,420 --> 01:01:30,500 So, well, okay, the problem that I have a feeling that every D&D game suffers is you might 962 01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:35,820 have interesting story points, but the players will get sidetracked by fluff. 963 01:01:35,820 --> 01:01:36,820 Right? 964 01:01:36,820 --> 01:01:40,900 Well, there was breakfast involved. 965 01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:42,820 There was breakfast involved. 966 01:01:42,820 --> 01:01:43,820 Yes. 967 01:01:43,820 --> 01:01:49,380 And as happens with rift kickers, there must be breakfast and second breakfast in T's 968 01:01:49,380 --> 01:01:55,420 time in, you know, 11 Zs and second lunch and brunch. 969 01:01:55,420 --> 01:02:01,140 And yeah, anyway, he was to say it was an event and we got through it. 970 01:02:01,140 --> 01:02:05,820 And this week we will continue from where we arrived at the village where you will meet 971 01:02:05,820 --> 01:02:12,100 some of the local residents and be given yet another task and hopefully get more info. 972 01:02:12,100 --> 01:02:16,900 Well, it all depends on whether or not we have an interesting dwarf joining us or not. 973 01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:17,900 Yes. 974 01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:22,340 In between that two, you know, there's still more shenanigans about, we still need to 975 01:02:22,340 --> 01:02:27,740 figure out more about the artifacts and the world of the shattered crown. 976 01:02:27,740 --> 01:02:32,020 I understand you're doing some work through D&D Beyond, at least on there where you are 977 01:02:32,020 --> 01:02:35,380 putting together a plot book. 978 01:02:35,380 --> 01:02:43,220 I'm at least, on D&D Beyond, I'm at least giving the synopsis obsessions into the notes. 979 01:02:43,220 --> 01:02:47,540 The main book is still a Microsoft Word file that I have that I print out and put into 980 01:02:47,540 --> 01:02:48,540 the binder. 981 01:02:48,540 --> 01:02:49,540 Yes. 982 01:02:49,540 --> 01:02:53,700 That way it's in one place that will become hopefully a campaign book. 983 01:02:53,700 --> 01:03:00,660 I've been looking at a number of campaign books and the format that's being used for modules 984 01:03:00,660 --> 01:03:05,780 on D&D Beyond, on Drive Through RPG and etc. 985 01:03:05,780 --> 01:03:14,500 And a module is typically about 16 pages and includes basically like a six-room dungeon. 986 01:03:14,500 --> 01:03:20,540 So it gives me an idea of how to structure this if we want to go modular-wise versus making 987 01:03:20,540 --> 01:03:24,580 it from how we wanted to do it when we did it all. 988 01:03:24,580 --> 01:03:28,700 You know, anyway, in the freeform method we are doing a sandbox. 989 01:03:28,700 --> 01:03:29,700 Yes. 990 01:03:29,700 --> 01:03:31,300 D&D was to say it's going to be a lot of fun. 991 01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:33,660 We're going to get there. 992 01:03:33,660 --> 01:03:35,660 But it's going to find out more. 993 01:03:35,660 --> 01:03:41,140 Yeah, if you want to find out more, since we didn't do the socials at the top of the call. 994 01:03:41,140 --> 01:03:42,940 So you can find us. 995 01:03:42,940 --> 01:03:44,260 We are WartMyTardis. 996 01:03:44,260 --> 01:03:45,780 We are on Facebook. 997 01:03:45,780 --> 01:03:47,180 We are on Instagram. 998 01:03:47,180 --> 01:03:48,860 We are on Threads. 999 01:03:48,860 --> 01:03:50,940 It's WartMyTardis. 1000 01:03:50,940 --> 01:03:52,780 You can find us on our Discord server. 1001 01:03:52,780 --> 01:03:56,140 The link is in the show notes for this podcast. 1002 01:03:56,140 --> 01:04:01,100 And we've got an email and that would be WartMyTardis@gmail.com. 1003 01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:03,300 Yes. 1004 01:04:03,300 --> 01:04:07,740 For now though, you have been mostly KJ the Comic Guy. 1005 01:04:07,740 --> 01:04:09,220 And you have been? 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