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The Dubins Exit Mount Sinai as Old Epstein Questions Resurface (Part 2) (10/27/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to get right
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  Speaker 1: back to talking about Glenn Dubin, Eva Dubin, and them
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  Speaker 1: stepping down from the board at Mount Sinai. Virginia's allegations
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  Speaker 1: against Glenn Dubin should have intensified that scrutiny dramatically. In
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  Speaker 1: sworn testimony, Virginia identified Dubin as one of the powerful
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  Speaker 1: men to whom she said Epstein and Maxwell directed her
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  Speaker 1: for sex while she was a teenager. She described him
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  Speaker 1: not as a random name in Epstein's contact book, but
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  Speaker 1: as part of the system through which, she said Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and Maxwell, sent her to influential men. That allegation was
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  Speaker 1: public by 2019 and emerged from the same body of
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  Speaker 1: litigation that forced much of Epstein's hidden world into public view.
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  Speaker 1: Yet Dubin never became a central target of public inquiry
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  Speaker 1: in the way Prince Andrew did. There were no years
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  Speaker 1: of front-page obsession, no comparable institutional crisis. and no sustained
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  Speaker 1: demand that every corner of his relationship with Epstein be excavated.
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  Speaker 1: That disparity is impossible to ignore. A billionaire hedge fund
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  Speaker 1: founder with deep financial ties to Epstein had been accused
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  Speaker 1: under oath by one of Epstein's best-known accusers, and somehow
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  Speaker 1: his name still spent years floating below the surface of
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  Speaker 1: the scandal. One can debate the evidentiary weight of any
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  Speaker 1: individual allegation, but there's no serious argument that the allegation
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  Speaker 1: should have been treated as as trivial. The real scandal
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  Speaker 1: is how easily wealth and institutional prestige seem to absorb
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  Speaker 1: the impact. Now, the testimony of former Dubin household employee,
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  Speaker 1: Rinaldo Rizzo, added another reason the family should have faced
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  Speaker 1: far more aggressive questioning. Rizzo testified that in 2005, a
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  Speaker 1: 15-year-old Swedish girl appeared at Dubin's home, visibly distraught, after
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  Speaker 1: time in Epstein's orbit. According to his sworn account, the
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  Speaker 1: girl said she had been pressured for sex on Epstein's
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  Speaker 1: island and threatened after refusing. Rizzo described the teenager in tears,
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  Speaker 1: shaking and frightened, recounting deeply disturbing experience associated with Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and Maxwell. This alleged episode was not described as occurring
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  Speaker 1: in some distant location unknown to the Dubins. It surfaced
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  Speaker 1: inside the household of people who were among Epstein's closest
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  Speaker 1: wealthy friends. If a 15-year-old connected to Epstein was describing
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  Speaker 1: sexual pressure inside that environment in 2005, then the obvious
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  Speaker 1: investigative question is who in the Dubin household knew what
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  Speaker 1: and when? That question deserved subpoenas, interviews, document collection, and
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  Speaker 1: sustained public attention long before Epstein was arrested in 2019. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: Rizzo's account became another explosive piece of the record that
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  Speaker 1: generated headlines. Without producing the kind of broad institutional reckoning
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  Speaker 1: the facts warranted, again and again, the Dubin story presents
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  Speaker 1: warning signs followed by remarkably little consequence. Eva Anderson Dubin's
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  Speaker 1: appearance at Glenn Maxwell's criminal trial only reinforced how deeply
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  Speaker 1: her name was woven into the underlying Epstein record. She
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  Speaker 1: wasn't called because she had once shaken Epstein's hand at
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  Speaker 1: a fundraiser. She was called because Maxwell's defense believed her
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  Speaker 1: testimony could answer allegations involving the social, and sexual environment
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  Speaker 1: around Epstein. Eva testified about her long relationship with Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and Maxwell while acknowledging the significant problems with her memory.
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  Speaker 1: The spectacle itself should have ended any lingering notion that
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  Speaker 1: the Dubins were distant acquaintances unfairly dragged into somebody else's scandal.
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  Speaker 1: One of Epstein's former girlfriends, later the wife of a
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  Speaker 1: billionaire Epstein associate, was now testifying in the criminal trial
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  Speaker 1: of the woman convicted of helping Epstein recruit and abuse minors.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about proximity to the heart of the story.
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  Speaker 1: Even after the trial, however, the Dubins largely avoided becoming
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  Speaker 1: synonymous with the scandal in the way several other wealthy
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  Speaker 1: Epstein associates did. The pattern of under-scrutiny survived yet another
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  Speaker 1: moment when it should have shattered it. The USVI had
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  Speaker 1: already signaled how seriously investigators viewed the relationship when its
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  Speaker 1: Attorney General subpoenaed Glenn Dubin, even Anderson Dubin, and records
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  Speaker 1: connected the high bridge in 2020. the requests were sweeping
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  Speaker 1: and went directly at the substance of the relationship rather
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  Speaker 1: than its public relations packaging. Investigators sought records involving financial
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  Speaker 1: transactions with Epstein, travel to the Virgin Islands, communication about
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  Speaker 1: his criminal cases, and contacts with people inside his network.
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  Speaker 1: They also sought information concerning Highbridge, Jess Daly, employment assistance
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  Speaker 1: for women connected to Epstein, and visits to Little St. James.
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  Speaker 1: That's the document trail investigators pursue when they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: understand how an ecosystem worked. It showed that the Dubins
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  Speaker 1: possessed information potentially relevant to far more than social gossip.
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  Speaker 1: The subpoenas also exposed how little the public actually knew
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  Speaker 1: about the decades of communications and transactions between Epstein and
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  Speaker 1: people who had enormous financial resources. Yet the results of
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  Speaker 1: those investigative demands never produced the kinds of transparent public
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  Speaker 1: accounting the significance of the relationship deserved. Another major avenue
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  Speaker 1: of scrutiny appeared, then largely vanished from public view. For
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  Speaker 1: the Dubins, once again, the storm passed without the sustained
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  Speaker 1: consequences that engulfed other Epstein-linked figures. Mount Sinai turned the
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  Speaker 1: Dubin relationship with Epstein into something even larger than a
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  Speaker 1: story about one wealthy family. Glenn Dubin served on the
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  Speaker 1: Mount Sinai Board of Trustees beginning in 2007, and eventually
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  Speaker 1: became a vice-chair. while Eva established herself as a physician, donor,
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  Speaker 1: and institutional power center connected to the Icahn School of Medicine.
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  Speaker 1: In 2010, the couple established the Dubin Breast Center, attaching
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  Speaker 1: their name permanently to a prestigious medical facility on Manhattan's
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  Speaker 1: Upper East Side. The philanthropic achievement gave the Dubins exactly
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  Speaker 1: the kind of civic stature that allows billionaire families to
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  Speaker 1: move seamlessly between finance, medicine, charity, and of course, high society.
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  Speaker 1: But Epstein was moving through that same institutional world. He
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  Speaker 1: donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Mount Sinai and
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  Speaker 1: its medical school after his 2008 conviction, acquiring what release
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  Speaker 1: records described as VIP treatment. You would think that that
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  Speaker 1: alone would force hard questions about how a registered sex
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  Speaker 1: offender was able to maintain privileged access to a respected
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  Speaker 1: hospital system. Well, the answer becomes even more uncomfortable when
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  Speaker 1: when one of his closest longtime friends was simultaneously a
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  Speaker 1: major Mount Sinai figure whose family's name was literally on
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  Speaker 1: part of the institution. The overlap was not cosmetic. It
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  Speaker 1: created a pipeline through which Epstein could call on people, favors, referrals,
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  Speaker 1: and institutional prestige years after his conviction. Now, the newly
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  Speaker 1: released records concerning Eva Anderson Dubin and Mount Sinai are
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  Speaker 1: especially damning to the image of a relationship that supposedly
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  Speaker 1: existed at arm's length. In 2012, Epstein asked Eva to
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  Speaker 1: help a young Russian woman obtain a volunteer position at
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  Speaker 1: the Dubin Breast Center. Hospital personnel raised an obstacle because
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  Speaker 1: the proposed work potentially conflicted with union duties. Eva pushed anyway,
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  Speaker 1: appealed inside the institution, and the position was ultimately approved.
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  Speaker 1: In an email to Epstein, she joked that the young
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  Speaker 1: woman could sit there and just look pretty. or a
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  Speaker 1: mark that looks particularly grotesque, when read against everything now
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  Speaker 1: known about Epstein. What it shows us is that Epstein
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  Speaker 1: treated Eva as somebody who could make institutional barriers disappear.
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  Speaker 1: He asked, she intervened, and Mount Sinai opened a door.
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  Speaker 1: That is exactly the kind of elite access Epstein spent
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  Speaker 1: decades cultivating. The significance is not merely that Eva did
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  Speaker 1: somebody a favor. The significance is that years after Epstein's conviction,
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  Speaker 1: he could still reach into major medical institutions through a
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  Speaker 1: trusted friend with enough influence to get results. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: same records show Epstein relying on Eva for medical help
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  Speaker 1: involving young women in his orbit. When one young Russian
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  Speaker 1: woman needed to go to the gynecologist, Epstein told her
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  Speaker 1: that Eva would arrange it. Eva later provided doctor contacts.
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  Speaker 1: After the same woman was injured in an ATV accident
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  Speaker 1: on Epstein's private island, Epstein again turned to Eva for assistance.
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  Speaker 1: She helped arrange for a Mount Sinai plastic surgeon, Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Jess Ting, to be available and records indicate Ting later
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  Speaker 1: treated the woman inside Epstein's Manhattan townhouse. Four months after
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  Speaker 1: the procedure, Epstein directed a $ 50, 000 donation to Mount Sinai
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  Speaker 1: that was earmarked for Ting's research. Now, that sequence should
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  Speaker 1: make everybody take a look at the relationship between Epstein's money,
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  Speaker 1: his medical access to the young women around him, and
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  Speaker 1: the people who helped them navigate those institutions. It also
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  Speaker 1: makes the Dubin connection to Mount Sinai impossible to dismiss
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  Speaker 1: as philanthropic background noise. Epstein was using a hospital network
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  Speaker 1: in which the Dubins carried enormous status, and Evo was
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  Speaker 1: directly assisting with access. The closer the documentary record gets
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  Speaker 1: to the ground, the worse the old claim of peripheral
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  Speaker 1: association looks. The 2026 Epstein Files release finally made it
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  Speaker 1: harder for the Dubins to remain in the background. Millions
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  Speaker 1: of pages of material opened new windows into the relationship
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  Speaker 1: Epstein maintained after his conviction, and Eva Anderson Dubin's name
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  Speaker 1: appeared throughout that world with remarkable frequency. New reporting documented
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  Speaker 1: her role in Medical Assistance, Employment Favors, introductions, and continued
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  Speaker 1: personal contact. Other reporting revisited Glenn's financial history with Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and the importance of the Highbridge deal. The picture that
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  Speaker 1: emerged was not one of accidental adjacency. It was the
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  Speaker 1: picture of two people whose relationship with Epstein touched family, finance, travel, healthcare, philanthropy,
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  Speaker 1: and high society. At a certain point, calling that a
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  Speaker 1: friendship understates the scale of the connection. It was an
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  Speaker 1: ecosystem relationship. Epstein could move from Glenn's financial universe into
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  Speaker 1: Eva's institutional universe without ever leaving the circle of people
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  Speaker 1: who had known him for years. The mystery is not
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  Speaker 1: why the Dubins are finally receiving scrutiny. The mystery is
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  Speaker 1: how they avoided this level of scrutiny for so long.
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  Speaker 1: By September of 2026, even Congress had begun naming Glenn
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  Speaker 1: Dubin directly in the renewed push for Epstein accountability. Representative
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  Speaker 1: Thomas Massey stood on the House floor and identified Dubin
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  Speaker 1: among 14 people he said should be investigated as alleged
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  Speaker 1: Epstein co-conspirators. That statement was politically explosive because it moved
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  Speaker 1: Dubin from the shadows of court records and financial reporting
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  Speaker 1: into the center of a congressional demand for investigation and
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  Speaker 1: It also highlighted just how dramatically the public framing had changed.
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  Speaker 1: For years, Dubin was the billionaire whose Epstein relationship was
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  Speaker 1: discussed mainly in specialized reporting, civil filings, and the occasional
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  Speaker 1: burst of scandal coverage. Now, his name was being spoken
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  Speaker 1: in Congress alongside a demand that the Justice Department act.
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  Speaker 1: That did not happen because the Highbridge deal had suddenly
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  Speaker 1: occurred or because Roberts had suddenly made her allegation. Those
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  Speaker 1: things had been known for years. What changed? was the
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  Speaker 1: accumulation of evidence and the collapse of the old willingness
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  Speaker 1: to treat Epstein's powerful associates as disconnected curiosities. The protective
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  Speaker 1: fog around Glen Dubin was finally beginning to burn off.
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  Speaker 1: Mount Sinai's position then became increasingly uncomfortable. The hospital had
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  Speaker 1: already faced reporting about Epstein's donations, his VIP access, the
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  Speaker 1: private treatment provided by one of its surgeons, and the
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  Speaker 1: role Evo played in helping people connected to Epstein's orbit
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  Speaker 1: obtain assistance. It reportedly reformed a committee to review its
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  Speaker 1: historical relationship with Epstein. At the same time, Glenn Dubin
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  Speaker 1: remained one of the institution's most prominent trustees and had
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  Speaker 1: served as vice chair. That placed Mount Sinai in the
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  Speaker 1: absurd position of examining its ties to Epstein, while one
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  Speaker 1: of Epstein's closest, long-time associates still occupied a position near
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  Speaker 1: the top of its governance structure. The problem was not
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  Speaker 1: simply optics, it was whether an institution would could credibly
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  Speaker 1: investigate its own Epstein history without fully confronting the roles
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  Speaker 1: of the powerful people who helped connect that history to
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  Speaker 1: the hospital. Glenn and Eva Dubin were central to that
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  Speaker 1: question because their identities at Mount Sinai were not minor
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  Speaker 1: or ceremonial. Their name was on a major clinical center,
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  Speaker 1: their family had deep institutional ties, and Glenn had sat
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  Speaker 1: on the board since 2007. Eventually, the contradiction became too
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  Speaker 1: obvious to ignore. Then came October 23rd, 2026, and a
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  Speaker 1: report that Glenn Dubin had stepped down from Mount Sinai's
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  Speaker 1: board and that Eva Anderson Dubin had also left the
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  Speaker 1: board of the Icahn School of Medicine earlier in the year.
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  Speaker 1: Mount Sinai said their terms ended in spring and they
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  Speaker 1: did not seek re-election. The institution has not publicly established
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  Speaker 1: that the departures were caused by the Epstein review, but
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  Speaker 1: the timing lands in the middle of a rapidly intensifying
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  Speaker 1: examination of the hospital's Epstein history. The Dubins had still
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  Speaker 1: appeared on Mount Sinai board material in 2025 and were
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  Speaker 1: absent from the list covering membership as of March 31, 2026.
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  Speaker 1: By then, the Epstein files had already exposed far more
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  Speaker 1: detail about Eva's role as a conduit to Mount Sinai
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  Speaker 1: and about Epstein's donations and medical access. Glenn's old financial
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  Speaker 1: relationship with Epstein was also receiving renewed attention and Massey
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  Speaker 1: had publicly called for him to be investigated. Nobody needs
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  Speaker 1: to manufacture a casual explanation that Mount Sinai has not
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  Speaker 1: supplied an order to recognize what is sitting directly in
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  Speaker 1: front of us. A longtime vice chair with decades of
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  Speaker 1: Epstein history left one of America's most prestigious hospital boards
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  Speaker 1: at the precise moment that institutions, Epstein Connections, were becoming
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  Speaker 1: an active public controversy. The departure feels less like the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the Dubin story than the overdue arrival of
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  Speaker 1: consequences at the institutional level. And I think that the
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  Speaker 1: Dubin story also exposes the weakness of the standard defense
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  Speaker 1: offered by powerful people in the Epstein orbit. Oh, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't know the full extent of what he was doing.
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  Speaker 1: The formulation sets the bar conveniently high because almost nobody
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  Speaker 1: outside Epstein's inner criminal circle would need to know every
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  Speaker 1: detail of every offense before deciding he was dangerous. By 2008,
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  Speaker 1: the relevant question was not whether Friends possessed a complete
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  Speaker 1: prosecution file, They knew he had pleaded guilty in a
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  Speaker 1: case involving a minor, and that he was a registered
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  Speaker 1: sex offender. Eva's own 2009 communication proves that knowledge in
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  Speaker 1: black and white, and once that fact is established, the
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  Speaker 1: decision to keep Epstein socially close becomes a decision that
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  Speaker 1: deserves judgment on its own terms. It tells us something
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  Speaker 1: about how much misconduct elite society was willing to absorb
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  Speaker 1: before social exile became mandatory. Epstein discovered that even a
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  Speaker 1: sex offense conviction involving a minor wasn't enough to cut
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  Speaker 1: him off from every wealthy family, financier, donor, doctor, or
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  Speaker 1: institution that had found him useful. The Dubins were one
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  Speaker 1: of the starkest examples of that failure. Their continued proximity
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  Speaker 1: helped demonstrate to Epstein that, at least within portions of
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  Speaker 1: his old world, those gates were still open. Leaving the
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  Speaker 1: board in 2026 does not answer why Epstein remained close
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  Speaker 1: to the Dubin family after 2008. It doesn't explain the
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  Speaker 1: 100% comfortable letter. It doesn't explain why Epstein would call
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  Speaker 1: Eva for institutional help. Why he remained embedded in the
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  Speaker 1: family's social world. Or why his financial history with Glenn
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  Speaker 1: produced so little sustained scrutiny. It doesn't answer the question
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  Speaker 1: raised by Roberts' sworn allegation or Rizzo's testimony. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: tell the public what the Virgin Islands obtained through its subpoenas.
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  Speaker 1: or what Mount Sinai's internal review found. It doesn't explain
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  Speaker 1: how the man with Epstein's record continued receiving VIP treatment
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  Speaker 1: and personal medical assistance through networks tied to one of
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  Speaker 1: America's premier hospitals. And it certainly doesn't erase the fact
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  Speaker 1: that the Dubins had years to explain the full architecture
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  Speaker 1: of their relationship while the public received fragments. Stepping away
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  Speaker 1: from prestigious titles may change the optics, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: close the record. If anything, it should increase the pressure
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  Speaker 1: for the record. Emails, financial documents, board communications, and investigative
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  Speaker 1: findings that can finally show the full scope of what
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  Speaker 1: went on. For far too long, Glenn and Eva Dubin
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  Speaker 1: benefited from the hierarchy of attention that was distorted. The
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  Speaker 1: Epstein story from the beginning. Prince Andrew became a global symbol.
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  Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell went to prison. Jeff Staley became a banking scandal.
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  Speaker 1: And Leon Black faced years of scrutiny. while the Dubins
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  Speaker 1: remained a paragraph several pages into the story. That ranking
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  Speaker 1: never made sense when measured against their actual proximity to Epstein,
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  Speaker 1: Glenn's financial relationship touched Highbridge and J.P. Morgan, Eva's personal
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  Speaker 1: relationship stretched back decades, their family continued seeing Epstein after
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  Speaker 1: his conviction, and their institutional world gave him access long
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  Speaker 1: after he should have been radioactive. Virginia's allegation alone should
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  Speaker 1: have ensured that Glenn Dubin's name was subjected to rigorous
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  Speaker 1: examination every time Epstein's network was discussed. The financial record
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  Speaker 1: should have done the same. The probation letter should have
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  Speaker 1: done the same. The Mount Sinai emails, you guessed it,
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  Speaker 1: should have done the same. Now that both Dubins are
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  Speaker 1: off their Mount Sinai boards, the public should resist the
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  Speaker 1: familiar temptation to treat resignation as accountability and move on.
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  Speaker 1: The real accountability begins when the full record is examined
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  Speaker 1: with the same intensity that would have been applied years
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  Speaker 1: ago if the people involved had possessed less money, less prestige,
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  Speaker 1: and fewer powerful institutions standing around them. All the information
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  Speaker 1: that goes with this episode can be found in the
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  Speaker 1: description box.