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- Lyndsay Soprano (00:01.218) Hey guys, well, welcome to the Pain Game podcast where we talk about the game of living in and with chronic pain and illness and where it often stems from, trauma. If you are new here, welcome. my God, it is so good to have you here. If you are one of our long time VIP listeners, thank you for sticking with us. And you know, I started this show with the intention of trying to heal myself. Annie Lisa (00:02.527) So, Lyndsay Soprano (00:26.392) from a devastating diagnosis of a really rare pain disease called CRPS, chronic regional pain syndrome. Sounds fake, but I promise you that it is completely not fake. On the McGill's pain scale, it is higher than natural childbirth. So this crazy ass woman is walking around having babies all damn day, right? And you might wonder how it's possible for someone to live in this kind of debilitating pain. Annie Lisa (00:35.651) . . Lyndsay Soprano (00:53.134) 24 hours a day without one second of a break and still show up, be here smiling and rocking it. And I can tell you how I do it. It's a decision every moment of my life that I make to give pain purpose and instill hope for myself and for others. And it is what this show is all about. So let's hop right into today's episode. We have got the most amazing babe on the planet for you. But anyways, so my sister-in-law, Annie Lisa (01:18.499) Okay. Okay. Lyndsay Soprano (01:22.982) happened to be one of my best friends on earth. We went to high school together. I married her brother. We considered each other to be legit sisters, like born and raised and everything together. And she died unexpectedly in August of 2024, leaving behind three kids, two of which were abandoned by their father when he ran off and got married like seven seconds later after she mysteriously passed away. Annie Lisa (01:31.582) . Lyndsay Soprano (01:52.206) Losing her was harder than I thought that it was going to be. I am constantly asking her for advice. I see her randomly walking through my house like an angel some days. I honestly feel like she walks through me. And I know my guest today will probably laugh at me for saying this, but the other day I was doing my daily swim. If you guys don't know, I swim every day. And I started sobbing uncontrollably while I was swimming. Annie Lisa (02:01.311) Okay. Okay. Lyndsay Soprano (02:18.206) And there had been some heavy things going on in my world and I just wanted to talk to my sis and cry with her. And my god cussed with her because she had a mouth like a sailor and it was amazing. And she was loud as fuck. You always knew where Carrie was. Anyway, so I took my swim goggles off as they were filled with my tears and I looked up to the sky and there must have been over 100 butterflies flying over my head just swarming me. And our jam was butterflies together. Annie Lisa (02:29.63) you you Lyndsay Soprano (02:47.682) Was it her? I'd like to think so. It's in moments where I'm asking for clarity in places in my life that she shows up or when I'm sobbing in my swim goggles. Why is this? Do you believe in this, right? In your life, can we heal from trauma and tragedy at a quantum level? And do we have any control over any of it? Can you heal from the most gruesome tragedies that happen to the families that are living right next door even Annie Lisa (02:58.59) Okay. You Lyndsay Soprano (03:17.518) when it's yours. You can. And our loved ones speaking to us and through us from beyond, oh, you betcha, and we are going to talk about it today. My guest today is no stranger to find healing after her sister was literally bludgeoned to death. Today, we are going to talk about murder and the aftermath. I'm already starting to tear up and I haven't even gotten going here yet. The subconscious mind, mysteries of human existence, life after death, removing subconscious patterns. Annie Lisa (03:39.456) You Lyndsay Soprano (03:47.094) a method called Psych-K and much, much more. So without further ado, I'd like to introduce you to my guest, the wild and crazy, the amazing, Anna Lisa. Annie Lisa, we fucking made it. Annie Lisa (03:57.118) my god. Woman! What a great intro too! Wow, you really got me all. Lyndsay Soprano (04:08.29) Thank you, my God, I had to change a couple things up. So Annie spent more than two decades working in marketing advertising before a devastating tragedy changed the trajectory of her life. After the 2015 brutal and gruesome murder of her sister, Dr. Teresa Severs, Annie says she began receiving messages from her dead sister. that led her down a path to further explore consciousness, the subconscious mind, and the deeper questions of human existence. That journey eventually led her to open her practice, Annie Lisa Life, in 2017. And through her work, Annie helps clients uncover and break the subconscious patterns that keep them stuck, guiding them toward greater awareness and meaningful change in their lives. So I'd like to start with you, with what happened on the day that you received a call from your brother, Frankie. about your sister Teresa being dead. And let's take it from there. Annie Lisa (05:07.133) All right, it was a Monday and you know how Mondays are sort of lazy days. If you've had like a really busy weekend, you just kind of might be, I was kind of like low keying into my day. You know, not really capable of too much work because we had spent, I had spent the whole weekend with my sister and with our entire family, with my siblings, their children and my mother. And I've been texting some photos with my younger brother, Frank. And so when it was lunchtime and I got a call for him, I just figured we were gonna, you know, kind of shoot the shit. I kind of was very lazily, hey, what's up? And immediately he said, he was confused by my lightheartedness. And, you know, he said, Anne, and I said, yeah, what's, you know, he said, Teresa's dead. So that was just like, so that was the beginning. Lyndsay Soprano (05:48.439) The Annie Lisa (06:04.698) Right? Like I just didn't even know what to say. And the weird thing about that call was I demanded to know what he know and how he knew. And he said, well, Pat just told me, Pat is our brother, my older brother. Pat said that you told him. said, my brother said to me, I said, no, I never told him. So immediately like the denial, right? no, this is a wrong story because I didn't tell him that. So obviously there's some mistake. My sister's not dead. And then I quickly hung up on him and called my brother who was crying. And I still insisted, I never told you that, I never told you that. So it couldn't be true. And he said, well, there's so much going on, I must have heard it from mom. And by that time, my mother was already on an airplane on her way to Florida. it was just, it's one thing, it's like your sister's dead. How is that possible? How am I gonna, you know? And then it was just like, what happened, what happened? And then it was, you know. Lyndsay Soprano (06:59.726) And then it was just like, well, what happened, what happened? And then it was, know, you're on the computer. As you got another phone call a few hours later, you're wondering, not being able to get any information. And the reason I'm working on any information is because I couldn't. Yet the news people had no problem when I was told little... Annie Lisa (07:03.494) turn on the TV, open up your computer. As we got another phone call a few hours later, as we were wandering and not being able to get any information, and the reason they weren't giving any information is because they couldn't, yet the news people had no problem when I was told to go to a website by my brother who got a call from my other brother, and there's a talking head in front of my sister's house that's covered with crime scene tape, and it was just... Lyndsay Soprano (07:27.47) know, a talking hat in front of my sister's house that's covered with crime scenes. And the first words out of her mouth were, was, in front of the home of Dr. Theresa Seabrook and her neighbor, say, the crime scene was wholesome. That was just like. Annie Lisa (07:31.899) And the first words out of her mouth were, we're standing in front of the home of Dr. Severs. We're neighbors sick. The crime scene was gruesome. So that was just like, what? And, I don't know how I had the wherewithal to not throw my computer. Like I picked it up and I something and said, put it down. But I walked up to my bar as I headed outside to, scream and I just cleared my hand through all the glass. just, Lyndsay Soprano (07:57.454) wherewithal to not throw my computer. Like, I it up and I something and said put it down but I walked up to my bar as I headed outside to... Annie Lisa (08:13.435) I just had to hear the sound of breaking glass, basically. And yeah, that was the beginning of one horrible bit of information after another. So was first, your sister's dead. Then your sister was murdered. Then your sister was gruesomely and brutally murdered and probably suffered. Then it was, you know, the husband did it. Then it was, you know, it just got uglier and uglier and uglier. Lyndsay Soprano (08:26.381) And your sister was brutally murdered and probably suffered. Then it was, you know, the husband. Then it was, you know, Annie Lisa (08:44.856) Yeah. So, The interesting thing was from the moment I found out my sister was murdered, not only did I go through all of the normal, how am I gonna, what's this gonna look like, and trying to project in the future, is, you went through this with your bestie, with your sister, right? With your sister, soul sister, and you try and project out the future and what your life is gonna look like, and it's very hard. Lyndsay Soprano (09:02.03) And you try to project your future with your back, with your sister, right? With your sister, your soul sister. you try and project out your future, what your life is. Annie Lisa (09:16.846) But the one thing that kept ringing in my head aside from who did this and what happened was, what about our commitment to each other, to this mission, this idea that we had? because I had experience talking to departed loved ones, I knew it would be just a matter of time before my sister checked in. So maybe I should pause there. Lyndsay Soprano (09:34.414) Well, yeah, and the checking in thing is what is so fascinating about it to me because I've always even said I remember the first time and I know this is kind of ghosty and twisty what I'm gonna say but I, in my sophomore year in high school, I was in a boarding school up in this town called Ida wild. It's in California. It's up in the mountains. was a boarding school for performing artists. And I was in the opera program there. And in my room, in my dorm room was the first time that I saw a little, like I saw a ghost and there was a little boy with glasses on and he was sitting in the corner and he was crying. And then I found out that there had been a little boy that had been killed in that room. And Annie Lisa (10:21.91) Hmm. Lyndsay Soprano (10:22.862) from that minute, and this was like a billion years ago, I started to always feel something. I was seeing things, I was experiencing things that I didn't really believe myself were happening. And then I thought, oh my God, maybe I'm a witch. Like maybe I'm Wiccans. Like I went down like a whole twisty road with that for a bit and all of that. But the actual feeling of Carrie and also some other people that I've lost in my life, that Like I said in the beginning, I feel like they walk through me and they walk through me in these times where I'm like, I literally need you to carry me right now because I'm not gonna make it. And I reach out to her a lot when it comes to my pain because she also suffered with a lot of pain issues, a lot of addiction and so on and so forth. So it's pretty amazing when you can feel and believe that you are actually talking to somebody beyond. Annie Lisa (10:49.593) you Hmm. Lyndsay Soprano (11:18.188) And it's hard for people like my husband, for example, this entire conversation, he'd be like, he does not believe in any of this whatsoever. And that makes me sad for him and that's okay. But the vibrations that we get, right? From the law of attraction, we get these frequencies of people because we're all just energy, right? So since you and your sister, you guys had this incredible Annie Lisa (11:18.199) Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (11:46.382) Incredible bond by reading your book actually she has a book and we'll talk about it a little bit later But your bond with your sister was like none other I mean reading how painful this was for you and how close you were Well, I've got the chills it This kind of is devastating for anybody to go through what you've gone through But for you in particular with how close you were to her. It's like losing yourself as well Annie Lisa (12:01.369) So Yeah, well, I definitely, so the first part is I definitely took solace in knowing that my Lyndsay Soprano (12:11.426) So what happened to you and your body and how did you go through this and face this trauma without throwing your computer through the window and jumping off a bridge? Annie Lisa (12:31.865) relationship with my sister would go on. And she quickly showed me that through a variety of signs. And it was actually the first, see I've never seen any, well I did see somebody randomly once, a ghost once, with my best friend. And I think she brought it in because she's really the psychic one in that regard. But I never had a tactile experience so my sister awakened me. Is that my saying that correctly? I awoke one night. Lyndsay Soprano (12:38.85) Mm-hmm. Annie Lisa (13:01.753) to the feeling of someone pressing their hand on my back. So spiritually, that helped a lot, but what started happening physically, well, two things happened immediately. One was a baby tooth that I had forever all of a sudden got affected. Like it had to come out, had to get, like all this dental work came out of nowhere. Because my vibe dropped into such a state of absolute terror. Lyndsay Soprano (13:26.233) Hmm. Annie Lisa (13:32.204) I mean, I was getting out of the shower of my house and I had my, I had a pistol permit with my gun walking through my house, even though I had all the doors locked and I was another, you know, I was in Connecticut and this happened in Florida. I was afraid and I've never been in such a state of fear. And you know, everything, like you said, Lindsay, it's all frequency and vibration out there. Doesn't matter whether you believe it or not, it's just the way it is, right? And for the scientists, Lyndsay Soprano (13:49.71) Mm-hmm Annie Lisa (14:01.046) well that's the quantum theory which has been proven again and again and so tell your husband that for you guys out there and it's no it's okay we're different we love you just the way you are you can get a little more feminine energy if you want to though we like that but you know we're more inclined to that because this you know this connection and understanding is it requires emotion right to really we all give up frequency and vibration Lyndsay Soprano (14:08.177) Yeah Lyndsay Soprano (14:18.617) Ha Annie Lisa (14:29.944) But when you're, I was just gonna say that I want to just finish the sentence, for the spiritual people, it's the law of attraction. But at the end of the day, just because you don't believe something doesn't mean it isn't true. You just remain open and curious, right? So that happened, and the next thing that started happening was I had the most outrageous pain. It wasn't my, I don't even know, it was my small intestine, I guess it was. Lyndsay Soprano (14:56.302) that was my small intestine, I guess it was. It felt like an elephant was standing on me. It was so cute that I... Annie Lisa (14:57.854) It felt like an elephant was standing on me. It was so acute that I was talking like this. I had no energy to do it. And I cried and cried because I knew my sister would know what to do. I understood that it was my energy. But at the time, I didn't know how to treat that because it was before my sister told me what she told me. Right. I didn't know how to work with the subconscious. I did understand the relationship. Lyndsay Soprano (15:18.624) didn't know how to break that. It was before my sister told me what she told me, right? I didn't know how to work with some kind of... I did understand the relationship between emotional pain, whether it's trauma or... Annie Lisa (15:28.703) between emotional pain, whether it's trauma or whether it's sadness or loss or whatever that vibration is that's causing you distress and dis-ease in your body was manifesting this acute pain in the center of my chest. And I ended up treating it with something topical, can't remember, some sort of medication. And it came back, of course, until I got to the place where I learned how to deal with what my body was manifesting. Because the reason I understood this was because as my sister, as a Western trained doctor who made a journey from internal medicine, board certified MD, say bent over, Lyndsay Soprano (16:06.934) I So I got to the place where I learned how to deal with what my body was manifesting. Because the reason I did this was because as a, my sister, as a Western brain doctor, who made a journey from... Annie Lisa (16:26.518) what's the drug started like that at a med school and said, this is messed up. I'm just going to be chasing disease. So I'm to go back to school because that's just what I want to do after getting out of med school and having a kid and got her master's of science in metabolic science. And then she said, well, diet is helping. Supplements are helping. Shit still is not happening. Went back and got certified anti-aging, um, board of integrative, um, anti-aging and holistic medicine. Lyndsay Soprano (16:32.134) I'm just chasing the thing. So I'm gonna go back to because that's what I wanted to do after getting out of med school and having Annie Lisa (16:55.573) Functional medicine, regenerative medicine. Holy crap, how many letters is that after MD? I can tell you it's about 15 letters because I used to do her writing and then That wasn't enough for my sister and she ends up getting certified in energy medicine. So this is where she stood 12 years ago, which is really we weren't even where we are now as a as a Western trained doctor Standing on that pedestal saying hey, you know what? If you want to work with prescription drugs, you're with the wrong doctor. Because my goal is to get you off of all of them and to get down to what happened to you that you have not reconciled, that you have not been able to release at the subconscious level, generally is where it is. Sometimes it's conscious, sometimes it's right here, sometimes it's buried. And, you know, through the work of Dr. Bruce Lipton, Lyndsay Soprano (17:47.218) Sometimes it's conscious, sometimes it's right here, sometimes it's buried. You know, through the work of Dr. Bruce Lipton, she made all of these connections, and that's how she started working with patients. We need to get to the root of the problem. We're not going to just treat it topically with a drug. We're going to find out what it is. Annie Lisa (17:53.814) She made all of these connections and that's how she started working with patients. We need to get to the root of the problem. We're not going to just treat it topically with a drug. We're going to find out what it is and we're going to release it. And then when we release that, your physical pain is going to go away with it. So for me, that was later. Lyndsay Soprano (18:17.389) Yeah, and I'll tell you one thing for when it comes down to finding the root of the problem and like you're talking about getting involved with functional medicine and all of that we talk about that all the time on this show because there is For me, I believe wholeheartedly that what's going on in my body CRPS has two different versions of it. There's one and there's two. And I have full body CRPS and it comes and stems from trauma and it's mostly in women and it usually stems from something from a sexual nature, religious nature. It just comes from abuse and trauma and it chose to sit in my feet and that's where it started. And then it moved its twisted sister way up through my whole body here and we're like, working on it, but I know, I know that Western medicine can't help me because it hasn't. I've done everything that they've asked me to do. They've poked and prodded and opened me up and sliced me open and almost paralyzed me and like so many terrible things. And we hear about this in the pain community all the time. This isn't just me that's talking about it. And with the malpractice and the medical gas lighting and the stuff that happens, especially to us women, we're seeking Annie Lisa (19:20.905) God. Mm hmm. Lyndsay Soprano (19:35.566) a different way of healing that isn't giving me 20 pills because every pill causes 87 different things. Now you're taking 87 pills for every thing that that one's causing. And it's just a slippery slope. And now you're a zombie. You don't feel your sex life sucks because you have no libido. You're not sleeping or you're sleeping too much. mean, just name it. goes on and on. But when you're talking about healing at that vibrational level, at that soul level, at that place where I know Annie Lisa (19:50.574) . Lyndsay Soprano (20:04.716) The work that I'm doing is making me better. Even if my pain is going higher right now, and I know this kind of sounds weird, but my pain is going a little higher, but I am healing myself simultaneously in different ways. And I can feel that there is a shift happening within my body. And I don't know how to explain it outside of what you're gonna kind of start talking about, which is getting all of this stuff released from your body, all of the fear. Annie Lisa (20:14.261) Hmm. Hmm. Lyndsay Soprano (20:31.978) all of the stress, all of the security issues, the safety issues, all of that that comes with trauma. And it's sitting in our body like the body keeps the score. You guys know I talk about that book all the time and it is, and my score is really damn high and that's not good. I need my score to drop to zero. So let's talk about your sister and you and how you wanted to get into this work together about the subconscious mind because you had brought up Annie Lisa (20:48.21) Right. Right. Right. Lyndsay Soprano (21:00.59) that the subconscious mind, 95 % of our day operates from subconscious programming. That to me is nuts. So I want you to get into all of that for us. Annie Lisa (21:07.554) Correct. Annie Lisa (21:11.759) Yeah, so this is a real big aha moment for most people and it's really important and I'm always excited to talk about because it was without question the biggest aha moment of my life. So the interesting thing is that before my sister was murdered, she had just gotten into Bruce Lipton's research on epigenetics and that is emotions over your genes. that so in a nutshell what he says is our health and well-being has very little to do with our DNA and everything to do with our emotions. That's quite a statement. This is from a guy who taught medical school. He was a stem cell biologist and he's like and Bruce, Dr. Bruce Lipton, let me say it again. Dr. Bruce Lipton is a rock star in the realm of the subconscious. Okay. So he's one of my heroes and so Teresa was just starting to talk about him. I had done, you know, because I was a copywriter, I was doing some of her advertising for her, so I knew who he was. And then after she got to the other side, and after she told me who murdered her, and after, you know, she started like saying, okay, it's time to get on with our mission, and I was waiting for information through a series of events that I cover, which I won't get into now, I end up with Bruce Lipton on my screen, and I'm like, hey, I know this dude. I remember my sister talking about this guy. And he explains the whole situation with the subconscious. And all of sudden you understand all at once that the subconscious is the very essence of who you are. It's why you do what you do, why you don't do what you really want to do, and why you can't stop doing the things that you shouldn't be doing and don't want to do. So the essence of who we are is steeped in this. It's a program. Lyndsay Soprano (23:03.394) Hmm. Lyndsay Soprano (23:09.934) Hmm. Annie Lisa (23:11.409) that we accumulate from zero to seven. just are like an absolute, you know, they say kids are sponges, they absorb everything. We absorb things in utero in ways that we can't imagine. So, you know, like when you buy an Apple computer and you pop it out of the box or a computer, well, Apple's pretty good, I shouldn't use that. Other computers that don't have any programs, right? The program, we're like a little computer and then we start to download programs. They start happening in the third trimester. So what your parents expose you to, they deliberately teach you, what you absorb around you becomes your program. also in addition to that very precious zero to seven, you're in high speed learning. So at no other time in your life can you learn so much so quickly. All right, this is how the subconscious is formed and why it's powerful. And then all of your trauma at any age, whether you're seven, Lyndsay Soprano (23:50.662) you become your program. And also in addition to that very long other time in your life when you learned so much so quickly. Annie Lisa (24:10.547) 17 or a hundred and seventy seven years old becomes your program and Though those programs are used to choose your circumstances in life So I always use the example of driving and not knowing how you got home. I don't remember the drive I don't remember going by the coffee shop or by that house with the you know, lime green front door. I how come because Your subconscious remembers habits instructions and directions Lyndsay Soprano (24:29.812) Mm-hmm Annie Lisa (24:39.058) That's why you don't have to think about how to tie your shoes anymore. You don't have to think about how am I driving the car or how am I getting home because your subconscious is an autopilot. And here's the key. In the same way that your subconscious is an autopilot driving your car and remembering how to get home and remembering how to drive the car, it uses all those beliefs that you didn't choose about yourself, about whether, you know, and it creates habits and instructions. that decide whether or not you think you're beautiful, whether you think you're smart, whether you speak your truth, whether you're anxious, whether you're calm. It uses all of those beliefs to choose your partners, your job, your friends, your circumstances, whether or not you believe you're abundant. And just like driving that car, you have no idea how you got there in your life. You're just there because it's operating all the time. Because your consciousness is wishes and desires. Lyndsay Soprano (25:30.35) you believe you're abundant. And just like driving that car, you have to, because it's operating all the time. Because your consciousness is wishes and desires. Those are those little things you write down like, you I'm gonna do this, I'm this next year, I'm gonna do that, or you make a plan, or you say, I'm gonna go to grad school, or I'm gonna move to the city and I'm gonna be an actress, or I'm gonna get out of this shit, I'm gonna leave this relationship, and why can't I do it? Annie Lisa (25:37.702) Those are those little things you write down like, know, I'm gonna do this next year, I'm gonna do that, or you make a plan, or you say, I'm gonna go to grad school, or I'm gonna move to the city and I'm gonna be an actress, or I'm gonna get out of this shitty relationship, and why can't I do it? No matter how many therapy sessions I go to, matter how many self-help books I read, or how much motivation, you revert back to the program. So if you want to change the printout of your life, Lyndsay Soprano (26:01.87) and you revert back to program. If you want to change the printout of your life. Annie Lisa (26:07.11) You have to go into the subconscious and you have to change the program. Lyndsay Soprano (26:19.486) And you can actually do this for us. Annie Lisa (26:19.57) Are we on delay? Annie Lisa (26:24.942) Yes. Well, and actually, so I love the way you put that, Lindsay, because this is what's so great. So there's a lot of ways that people can go in and change their subconscious programs. And I tell people all the time, go research them if you wish. Bruce Lipton has 14 different ways that we can rewrite the subconscious. Because if you don't rewrite the subconscious, you're going to constantly sabotage yourself. For example, Lyndsay Soprano (26:49.294) different ways that we can rewrite the subconscious. Annie Lisa (26:54.937) You can have affirmations and vision boards, right? That, you know, money flows to me easily and abundantly. That's beautiful. But if you have a subconscious program that watched your parents work two or three jobs, just to keep things running, and if you wanted a new pair of the new hip sneakers that were out, you always heard, we don't have enough money. We don't have enough money. And your religion told you that money was the root of all evil and... You every Sunday at dinner your grandfather told you that people with money are assholes. You could say your affirmations all day long, but what the universe is hearing 95 % of the time are all of those self-limiting beliefs about money. you're blocking yourself. This is what, you know, therapists and life coaches, they talk about self-sabotage, but they don't really know what it means. This is what it means. It means you have a conscious wish and desire. Lyndsay Soprano (27:39.15) limiting belief about money so you're blocking your this is what you know therapists and life coaches we talk about Annie Lisa (27:50.874) but your subconscious does not have a program to support it. In fact, it has a program that's gonna sabotage you every single time. So, when people come to me and they want to work on their programs, I say the reason, or they come to my talks or events, the reason I chose PsyK is relative to what you said because I'm not in charge in the session. Because you said it, our body has the ability Lyndsay Soprano (28:16.974) is relative to what you said because I'm not in charge of the session. Because you said it, our body has the ability to do stuff and it's all about empowerment. I absolutely am a fast, fabulous facilitator of this protocol, Psych K. And I chose it because it's simple, it's easy, it's fast, and you can use it. Annie Lisa (28:20.955) to heal itself. So when we come in these sessions, it's all about empowerment. I absolutely, I'm a fabulous facilitator of this protocol, Psych-K. And I chose it because it's simple, it's easy, it's fast, it's verifiable. With muscle testing, it's what Bruce Lipton uses, and it's what my sister told me after she was murdered. So it was like a win-win for me to choose this. And people come in and they, No, they know, just like you know, right? But the interesting thing is when somebody sits down and they start, they might come in and start talking about, let's say they come in and they wanna work on chronic pain in their back, or they wanna work on, you can work on anything that you wanna work on, because we're the creators all the time. And they may sometimes go, yeah, but I saw the X-ray and I know that my, I don't know letters and spines, sorry. My M1 or my F2, I don't know. And I apologize to anybody with spine issues, but they know like the number and the letter. And they're like, I saw it. And I said, listen, I'm not, you know, please don't think that I'm being glib here. I get that there's a real situation going in your body that we can look at it and you can feel it. What we want, but my mother had it and my father had it. It doesn't matter. And you might have it because your subconscious believes it's supposed to get it because they had it. Because it's all in the field and we're all connected to it. So your body and your cells are responding to a bunch of influences that you're not even consciously aware of. So the beautiful thing is we don't even need to know the how, the why, the what. All we need to know is what's going on and what do you want instead? And then we start to work with the subconscious and the partner, as I call the person I work with, starts giving information. And they might say something like, you know, I mean, they might, it might not even be in their conscious mind, but all of a sudden they might remember. And I'm trying to think of one, that's how my head right, I have a lot of other circumstances, but in discussing a pain in their back, Annie Lisa (30:40.788) they may realize that they're carrying the world on their, they start telling me how busy they are. And I feel like I've got the weight of, I'm carrying the weight of the world on my back. And you start peeling that stuff back and they go, yeah, well, I'm responsible for this. My husband quit his job 10 years ago. I've had a take on the response. And you realize, well, you have a pain in your back because you just said it. Because you feel like you've got the weight of the world on your shoulders, on your back. whatever words are, and when you start to, we'll say, what do you want instead? Well, I need financial support. I want to know that I can handle this, that I'm strong enough, and you start coming up with those goal statements, and we've had incredible stories. There was a guy who had, it was a good one. He had back pain and he wasn't working with me. He was working with the head of Psychay's Health and Wellbeing. And I'm pretty sure it was his story. So the client was saying, he wanted to get back to the back problems. They went through everything, everything. They did so many sessions and you really don't generally need a lot. So finally, the facilitator said, what is it? Like if your back problems were solved today, what would you have to give up? because this is important. Some people, and again, Lyndsay Soprano (32:01.787) Hmm. Annie Lisa (32:05.976) not disputing anybody's pain and I'm not. Some people have pain for other reasons. They can't let go of it because it protects them from something else. This is a real glib story, no, you know, this is just an example of a not a serious story. The guy's back pain, so when he was asked that question, he said, well, if if my back pain goes away, I'm going to have to start cutting my grass again. And I hate cutting my grass. Lyndsay Soprano (32:17.942) Mm-hmm. So no, no, no. This is just an example of not a series for the guy's back. So he would ask that question to know if I my back to me by the way, I'm not going to have start cutting my grass again. And I hate cutting my grass. So the facilitator said, why don't hire somebody to cut the grass? And nobody's going to have to cut it. Because now it's just a series. Annie Lisa (32:34.208) So the facilitator said, why don't you hire somebody to cut your grass? I know this sounds silly, but it was the first thing that came out of the guy's mouth. I don't want that I'm gonna have to cut, because now it was like saying, I don't have to cut my back hurt. So they made an agreement that they would hire somebody and he would never have to cut the grass and his back pain went away. So that's one example of something. I also can tell you, and this is before I did the work, about my grandmother. Lyndsay Soprano (32:57.742) Crazy. Annie Lisa (33:02.67) who had, my step-grandma, had chronic pain. And I learned from her, this is before I was doing this work, the only time she ever got attention from her daddy, and then later her husband, was when she was sick, and she was in pain. And what had ended up happening, after my grandfather died and she was alone, her subconscious said, well, if we wanna have another man in our life, we have to have pain. She hurt her back excruciatingly. They did everything to the point where nothing worked. She became, she had surgery, she had her spinal cord disconnected. This is important. So she couldn't move from the waist down. She still had the back pain there. She was paralyzed. She couldn't feel anything. You could stick her with a needle. She couldn't feel it. But she still had her back pain because her subconscious wouldn't let go. Lyndsay Soprano (33:57.946) Wow. So how their back pain, if subconscious wouldn't let go. Subconscious is so literal, it's like a little kid. Everything is happening right now. So if I want to have somebody pay attention to me, I need this pain. Because this is... Annie Lisa (33:59.945) Subconscious is so literal it's like a little kid. Everything is happening right now. So if I want to have somebody pay attention to me, I need this pain because this is how I draw them in. She couldn't let it go. Annie Lisa (34:19.041) but everybody has a different beginning. Lyndsay Soprano (34:19.575) Yeah, and you know, one of the things that's so interesting that I find about the Lyndsay Soprano (34:29.292) I'm sorry, you were cutting out there, Annie, for just a second. What was it that you just said? Annie Lisa (34:31.245) That's okay. No, go ahead, go right ahead, go right where you were. Lyndsay Soprano (34:36.974) Yeah, one of the things that's so crazy about the pain that I have and how I process it and deal with it, it's super nervous system oriented, like for sure. Somebody asked me, I think it was in season one of my show, said, what are you afraid of if your pain goes away? And it was such an interesting question because it was like, who am I now? If I am not, if I, if I don't have this chronic pain and this chronic illness, my whole life now revolves around it and the lives of the people that love me and especially my sweetie, it, affects every single part of our day and our life. And what happens if that goes away, then who am I? It's such a weird. concept to think about because I'm building a whole new business. I'm doing this show on it. I'm working on opening up a wellness center in Tuscany for pain. Like I'm trying to do all this and the answer is you're going to be living your life without pain and helping others to get out of pain. It's just such a strange thought to think that I'm afraid of actually being out of pain. Is that nuts or what? Annie Lisa (35:47.277) No. It's so interesting because people don't think about it this way, right? Because as much as you don't want that pain, I mean, I don't even know how you do it. So thank you for doing what you do. and pushing through it for everybody out there who's suffering, okay? Because there's so much to glean here from this conversation. Because like you said, who am I without the pain? That is part of the dynamic. Because your pain has affected how you live your life, whether or not you go out to dinner, what time you go to bed, how you sit down, what you wear, your relationship with your husband, your purpose. Not to say that if you had no pain, you wouldn't do this anymore, because you'd be like, I gotta share what I learned now, right? But it would totally change the dynamics in your life and your relationship in every possible way, because we identify with that. So that's, and how we drink our coffee and every other thing in between. So. Lyndsay Soprano (36:56.622) For sure. Annie Lisa (37:10.506) So that's one aspect and the other aspect is, so I had a client who was suffering from severe anxiety and depression. We did, I mean honestly, I had to finally say to him, listen. What's the secondary gain for you? In other words, we've covered it all. We've done so many goal statements, which is how we navigate in Psych K. You know, like, what do you want instead? I want to be happy, but we make it into a positive statement. I am happy. Whatever low-hanging fruit was there, we did balances. We removed it from the subconscious. We got messages from the subconscious. We did everything you could think of. and he was barely moving an inch. So I finally said, hey, Mr. Partner, what happens if all of a sudden your anxiety and depression, I mean, he was like, I want to say borderline suicidal. And he said, well, then I'd have to get off my couch and live my life. I don't know what to do. So he was able to stay safe in his anxiety and depression because he didn't have to go out and run his business. He didn't have to deal with his relationship. He didn't have to deal with Lyndsay Soprano (38:13.027) Hmm. How'd you live my life? don't know what to do. So he was able to stay safe in his anxiety and depression because he didn't have to go out and run his business. He didn't have to deal with his relationship. He didn't have to deal with being the man of the house. I said, there's where we need to go. Because you're hiding behind this for you. And believe me, you are not constantly hiding behind anything. The job. Annie Lisa (38:25.227) being the man of the house and I said well there's where we need to go because you're hiding behind this for you and and believe me all the people you are not consciously hiding behind anything the job of your subconscious is to keep you safe and if safe for your subconscious who's not going to analyze all this data like this safe means I have to stay on the sofa because I'm afraid to go out there that's the most important thing Lyndsay Soprano (38:43.662) And it's for your subconscious to analyze all this data like this. Safe means I have to go there. Because I'm afraid to go out there. That's the most important thing. I want to go live my life because I've already wanted to live my So that's why the power is there at the subconscious. And you have to. Annie Lisa (38:53.704) and it will hold onto that over your conscious self-wanting, but I wanna go live my life, but you don't really wanna go out and live your life. So that's why the power is there at the subconscious. And you have to unravel it. And the beauty of this particular work is it's very simple. people think they, we talk about right now about like you happen to. have a very good idea of where your pain comes from. Some people do. I knew what mine was from. Some people don't. The beauty of this work and unlike other modalities and other typical talk therapy is you don't need to know what the source of the problem was to solve the problem, which is counter to what we're told, right? All you need to know is what you want. So the myth is, in order to solve a problem, we need to know the cause. Lyndsay Soprano (39:37.55) The beauty of this work, of pop therapy, is you don't need to know what the source of the problem was to solve the problem, which is the counter to what we're told, right? All you need to know is what you need to know. So the myth is, in order to solve a problem, we need to know the problem. Annie Lisa (39:51.711) This is not true with Psychay. We don't need to know the cause. Now it might come up and go, that's really interesting. It's totally not required. And we also have this idea that it's very difficult to change and it's painful and it takes a long time or we just can't change it all. And that is also not true. And the other thing that I like about this work again is Lyndsay Soprano (39:58.862) It's totally not required. And we also have this idea that it's very difficult to change, and it's painful, and it takes a long time, or we just can't change it often. And that is also not true. And the other thing that I like about this work, again, is Annie Lisa (40:18.814) that the client has all the answers. I facilitate a very powerful process. It's quantum. It happens very quickly. People change right there. can see, you know, after one balance, they start to feel differently. The whole perception changes. You know, you're creating a whole brain state in your mind. The law of attraction starts to work for you and things turn around. And the other component I really like about this is you have to get permission. Lyndsay Soprano (40:45.678) things turn around. And the other point I really like about this is you have to get permission before you move forward with any type of balance. We ask the higher self, because the higher self is a part of the dynamic in this session. Where with your conscious mind, your subconscious mind, Annie Lisa (40:48.394) for you move forward with any type of balance. We ask the higher self because the higher self is a part of the dynamic in this session where we're with your conscious mind, your subconscious mind, and your super conscious mind all involved. Lyndsay Soprano (41:17.718) It's pretty awesome, It kind of sounds like it's too good to be true. You know what I mean? And I know that we talked about that as well, because you're like, how could it be this simple? But I truly believe that we chase so many things that are harder for us and harder on our bodies than just potentially saying, huh, I might give this whole energy medicine a little bit of a try because it's ancient. It is ancient and people have been using energy medicine for I don't even know how many years, hundreds of thousands of years. And it's just our day and age that's so big pharma and health care system and all of that, that has just destroyed all of our ability to think that there's hope. We're going to fix it, but not really fix you, you know? And that's where I've just stared almost entirely away from it because I Annie Lisa (42:14.026) . . Lyndsay Soprano (42:22.73) Energy work is the only thing I want to do now because nothing else has worked. So why not continue to go down that path of trusting in the universe and the space and the energy around us and those that can help us get through these programs that are downloaded into our bodies since we were little guys. I certainly know what my narratives are. Annie Lisa (42:48.105) Okay. Okay. Lyndsay Soprano (42:48.302) And I know that they replay without me even knowing it's happening all day long. I know it's happening I know it because I can feel it in my body there will be specific things that will happen and my body all of the sudden just flares and I'm like What and God's name just like ticked my body off that I flared up Something back here just got ticked off about something who knows what it was that threw off that spark in my body went I'm gonna catch on fire and now you can't walk for the rest of the day. And it's nuts and it's debilitating, but man man, we gotta keep fighting for it. And this is definitely one of the ways that we can fight back and help correct and heal what's happened to us. Annie Lisa (43:33.783) Yeah. You said something that really I think we should talk about because it's perfect. You said something about, you know, how is people say some time, well, how is this energy medicine going to work? especially guys, right, have a hard time with this. If you go to any conference or any type of event in the realm of spirituality and quantum physics, there's very few men there. And the ones that are, are generally gay, and I don't mean in a bad way, they're just, men who are very in touch with their feminine sides, they have a lot of feminine energy, or they're these really enlightened, you know, guys. So here's some information that I think is really helpful for people to understand about why this stuff actually works. So this is, know, from my other rock star god in this world, and that's Greg Braden, who has some fabulous books that I've read. So we have over 50 trillion cells in our body. And I'm going to give everybody a couple seconds to guess how long it would take to count to one trillion. Did I give this one to you yet already? Lyndsay Soprano (44:53.272) Yes. Annie Lisa (44:54.096) Okay, so you can't answer, because you know. All right, so everybody listening, it takes almost over, actually, over 34,000 years to count to one trillion. So now don't think about the national debt, okay? It takes over 34,000 years! Guys, Jesus was only 2,000 years ago! So let's get some reference points here. Let's anchor some info in the ground. So we have 50, Lyndsay Soprano (45:19.726) Hmmmm Annie Lisa (45:22.631) trillion cells Which are amazing each little cell when you put them all together. They all have antennas and they have receptors So they receive information and they send information so the voltage in each cell I Can't remember it's zero point five or six I can't remember but let me just say that when you put all 50 trillion together the voltage in one human body And this is Greg Braden, pure human, read this in, is equivalent to two and a half billion car- Lyndsay Soprano (45:57.334) is equivalent to two and a half billion. Annie Lisa (46:02.887) So this is why energy medicine works, guys, okay? Because we are energy. We're in a physical little suit here, little costume running around. the amount of capability we have as human beings, it blows artificial intelligence out of the water. Lyndsay Soprano (46:03.144) Whoa! Annie Lisa (46:30.172) You know, these guys are rock stars in this area, Bruce Lipton, Greg Brighton, so many others, and these are the things I talk about. I try to take their information and distill it down so that people can start to wake up to the idea. Yeah, guys, this is why energy medicine works, because when I'm standing in a room over here, I'm affecting other people far outside of me, far outside of me. And if I hold my vibration high, whether it's because I'm doing You know square breathing or brain heart breathing or I'm doing a psychic balance or whatever I'm doing I can affect things beyond my physical body and I can change the the the Matter I could change the energy that's affecting the pain in my body whether that's through the subconscious whether that's through eight people in a circle holding the same attention I mean Cancer has been cured, there's through intention. Tumors have shrunk. I've seen this, I've heard this, I've seen amazing things. Well, how come we haven't seen it? Well, that's a really good question. I wonder why you haven't seen that. I want to bring this as do these rock stars in this area of bridging spirit and science, which is quantum physics, to wake people up to you. Lyndsay Soprano (47:40.526) I see amazing things. How come you haven't seen it? Oh, that's a really good question. wonder why you haven't seen that. I want to bring this as these rock stars in this area of reaching here in science, which is quantum physics. It wakes people up to you truly are more important. Annie Lisa (47:55.831) truly are more powerful than you've ever been not only taught to believe, but allowed to believe that you've been distracted from who you are. And we are magnificent divine beings with a birthright of creativity. It's who we are. It's why the number two chromosome distinguishes us from everything. We are divine beings and we are creating our reality and that means our well-being and our health and everything. We really can do it and people, I hope, will start to seek out this information. We're not victims here of our circumstances. And I know it's much harder, like a person who comes to me who's in chronic pain is a very different story than someone who comes up to me and their story is, They want to start a business and they keep getting stuck or, you know, they're not getting along with their husband and they're trying to figure out. That's different, right? Because now if that person who doesn't get out of that relationship, who wants to get out of relationship and can't speak the truth, if they stay there, it's going to eventually manifest into their body and become pain. For the people who already show up and have had pain for 20 years, might take a little more. Lyndsay Soprano (49:11.246) Mm-hmm Annie Lisa (49:18.767) I don't ever like to throw it out like it's gonna take a long time or it's gonna take, because sometimes magical, I've seen magical things happen to people with pain. But the reality is we have the ability to do that. We understand why energy medicine is not brought out to the mainstream fold. It's not sponsoring a Charles Schwab commercial, right? You're not seeing a commercial for Reiki, a Reiki practitioner there. You're seeing something for a pharmaceutical drug, okay? Look at it all. But this is why. Because man, then everything changes. Everything changes when we start going off the pills. And nobody really wants that to change. And I don't want your, you know, you to get censored here. So I won't talk about, they won't show our video. Lyndsay Soprano (49:45.198) Yeah, exactly. No. Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (50:08.161) Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (50:15.086) Yeah, man, we are we are definitely here in the United States, non-United States of America is what I'm now calling it. We definitely have a health care crisis on our hands here. And we we absolutely have to keep an open mind to everything that you've been talking about today, because the latter we've all been through. I mean, one of my girlfriends from high school, she's always been kind of like a hypochondriac. So I always go to her for like, what do you think the best doctor would be for this? Because she's probably seen like 12 to 15 of that one type of doctor and still ended up not really getting the best results from it, right? And so when I just stopped having the dialogue with these doctors. and started having the dialogue with people like yourself. And I believe wholeheartedly in this. I believe that it's going to help me. I'm working on some Reiki and some other things and you and I have talked about doing the Psych K stuff with me, which of course I'm gonna be doing. the potential for us to all heal and vibrate together at such a healthier, higher level. Annie Lisa (51:16.133) Okay. you Lyndsay Soprano (51:32.33) It's at our fingertips. It's right here. And all we have to do is just be open and willing and saying, I'm going to give it a try. We all gave stuff a try once before that people said, you probably shouldn't do that. Right. We can do it this way. And this is a far better way to try something on. You know what I mean? So when it comes to working with people, when you're working with people like myself, for example, Annie Lisa (51:51.399) I mean. Lyndsay Soprano (52:01.048) Can you work with them on Zoom? Can do we have to be with you? How do you work? Annie Lisa (52:06.552) No, so I work with most people remotely. But I do work with a lot of people in person. I have people who are in Boston and I'm in Connecticut, but they insist on driving here because, they wanna hang out and they wanna see me and they like my studio space. And then there are people that I've never met in person before. There are people who could drive here, but it's just so much, an online is, you know how efficient it is, right? It's efficient. Lyndsay Soprano (52:14.978) Mm-hmm. Annie Lisa (52:36.63) So there's a variety of ways that we can work together. I even have this one client who does not like computers at all. So we actually work without any visuals at all. So the reason I'm able to do that is because, so I have to like, he came to one session in person so he knows like what I'm talking about, but as a facilitator and in the training that I've had, Lyndsay Soprano (52:50.402) Huh? Annie Lisa (53:02.646) I know very well how to explain very clearly what it is that we're going to do and what's happening. So you can do it any way you want. And the reason it's like, well, we use muscle testing and anybody knows what muscle testing is. It's when you apply pressure to a body and your body has a strong muscle test or a weak muscle test. And based on that, that's how we navigate what's on the subconscious. And the reason that we can do remote sessions and still muscle test is because we're tapping into the body's energy. And we are getting permission from that other person that it's safe for me to go into a surrogation with you and that it's safe for your higher self to go into surrogation for me. And if we get strong muscle, if I get strong muscle tests on that, we're in. And honestly, when we do remote sessions, they go very fast. Lyndsay Soprano (53:35.47) The reason that we're tapping into the body's energy and we are getting permission from that other person that it's safe for me to go into a interrogation with you and that it's safe for your higher self to go into interrogation with you. And if we get strong muscle, if I get strong muscle tests on that, we're in. And even if we, so we can remote sessions, we go hearing back. Because there's no physical. Annie Lisa (53:59.681) Because there's no physical, even though muscle testing is whatever, it's just instant, it's just boom, boom, boom. The reason I like when people come in is because they can feel the muscle test in their arm. They can actually feel their arm lock up or their arm release depending on what they say. Like if I say, if somebody was muscle testing me right now, for people who don't know what muscle testing is, we all have this like built-in lie detector in our body. And the subconscious is running many different components and many different aspects of our body from our breath, our excretory system, my hands moving around all over the place when I'm talking, puts our legs one in front of the other, our movement, et cetera. So if I had my arm out to the side, like I was making a one-armed cross and somebody was muscle testing, and they asked me to say that my name is Annie, I would be able to say my name is Annie while they were putting pressure on my arm and I'd be able to resist it because my name is Annie. However, if I said my name is George, I wouldn't be able to say my name is George and my subconscious wouldn't be able to speak those words and allow me to maintain strength in my arm because my subconscious would give out and say it's not on the program. Like that's not true, your name's not George. So this is how we navigate when someone says, Lyndsay Soprano (55:03.483) Mm-hmm Lyndsay Soprano (55:23.07) Hmm. Annie Lisa (55:25.547) I love myself. And I go, you do? Well, I think I do. Let's see what your subconscious thinks about that. And loving yourself has a lot of far-reaching consequences in what your life ends up looking like and what you're able to attract and where your vibration is. So this is another beautiful aspect of understanding the fundamentals of these core beliefs like love and self-worth and things of that nature and the far-reaching consequences. And how powerful this particular tool is that We have a verifiable technique that we can say that belief, identify the weak muscle test, and then go to the balance. And after the balance, you say, love myself and it's strong. You've just rewritten your subconscious with a very powerful belief that will have a domino effect in your life in ways that you can't imagine, right? Because it all starts with. It all starts with the love, you know? And you said it before, you said, like, you know, we can just, we can do this, right? You said we can all do this because when... Lyndsay Soprano (56:37.277) Sounds amazing. Yeah, it does. And I mean, and we. Annie Lisa (56:46.785) Because when we love, right, when we're feeling good and we are happy in our lives, we have more tolerance for people. We can love ourselves. We can build up to unconditional love for ourselves and keep, and then we have unconditional love for other people. And this creates a big effect on the whole planet. because it's not a one to one ratio. think for every, it's the square root of a number, some square root of the number of a population is all it takes to affect an entire population. And I'm just gonna make up numbers. So let's just say it's a thousand people. You only need two people out of a community of a thousand to be vibing high and everybody else just spirals up. That's just the way it works. So it's kind of like, It's exponential in its effect. Lyndsay Soprano (57:52.43) Exponential and it's effective. love that. And we're getting close on time here, so I want to make sure that I get to talk about your book really quick, too. But there is a quote that was in your book, actually, and it was not only do we hold the power to change our collective future, we have the responsibility to do so. Changing the world is an inside job. It starts with you. And this is how we do it. And I couldn't have found a better time for that quote to come in, because I have a bunch of them in my notes that like I might be able to use here and there. But the timing of that is perfect because we are a collective. are human beings together in this world, in this life, and we're all treating each other like shit. And here in America, half of us are being treated like animals. And I'm part of that half, by the way. And it's horribly negative. And right now in our world, in our space, and we've got this war going on now, and more wars, and more wars, and more wars, and we're all fighting against each other. And I want to be part of some kind of collective change. And I do feel like we have a responsibility to do this and to try to change the world. Annie Lisa (58:59.536) . Okay. Lyndsay Soprano (59:10.702) bit by bit, if I'm a little bit better as a human being and I feel better in this planet and I love myself more, I'm going to be sharing more joy. I'm going to be spreading that hope. am going to be feeling and living the life that has been given to us that we often take, if not more than often, take for granted. And there's another quote also in your book from Audrey Hepburn, because I know when it comes to feeling like you want to give up. And I have had these instances. I've talked about it actually last season. I did an episode with my girlfriend, Jeanette Tashgen, who also has CRPS and we talked about suicidal ideation. And we talked about how we have gone through these moments of wanting to die because there's no possible way we're going to be able to get out of this pain. And Audrey Huppard said, nothing is impossible. The word itself says I'm possible. Annie Lisa (59:46.925) Hmm Lyndsay Soprano (01:00:05.358) And I love that quote. it's something that I almost want to tattoo on myself. I'm kind of itching for some ink. So that might be it. But I want to talk really quick about your book too, because we want to know what happened to the person and people who were involved in taking a hammer to your sister's head and killing her in her kitchen. Annie Lisa (01:00:08.32) That is very. Lyndsay Soprano (01:00:34.254) What happened to these guys? You're going to have to find out by reading her book. And her book is called What My Sister Told Me After She Was Murdered. And it is incredible. I've read it. It's all you know, you guys know how I read. If you guys have been listening to this show at this point, most of the book is yellow and dog eared. It should just highlight the places I don't have interest in. It'd be far less work. But you've got to get this book. But if you could just give a little bit about the book before we head out. Annie Lisa (01:00:55.316) Mm. Annie Lisa (01:01:04.226) Sure. It's about two sisters who understood that they had a mission to share their passion for otherworldly beliefs of getting in touch with loved ones and what we've been talking about today, this energy that creates our reality. And we knew we were supposed to do something and all messages and numbers and epic dreams and crazy things. Lyndsay Soprano (01:01:04.525) And that would just be lovely. Annie Lisa (01:01:27.456) kind of came to a head one spectacular weekend where we understood that this excitement was actually a much larger call to action to help support humanity at some point in the future, which is actually right now on this planet. But before we could figure out what we were supposed to do, my sister was murdered. And after she told me who murdered her, she got right down to the business of this mission to help awaken and expand human consciousness. get so choked up so that we can step into who we are guys we can really do this so if you like true crime if you're into getting messages from departed loved ones this book will not disappoint and it's available shall I? Lyndsay Soprano (01:01:59.374) step into who we are. Lyndsay Soprano (01:02:11.758) Yes, you shall. Annie Lisa (01:02:16.127) So if you go to my website, which is Annie Lisa life, you can find out more about me where I'm going to be where I'm speaking what I'm doing. I've got something coming up in New York City. I'm very excited about in the fall more to come. I've got some things in Connecticut coming up in the next week and you can learn more about psyche. You can find out where you can get the book and you can see this podcast and find me at all of my social channels and reach out. and say, hey, I wanna hear more about the psyche and we'll do a free discovery call and you can ask all the questions that you want. Lyndsay Soprano (01:02:54.636) I love it. I love it so much. You can find Annie all over the place, but the best place, you actually have a link tree. It's link tree, Annie Lisa Life as well, or you can just go to annielisalife.com. All of her socials are the same, Annie Lisa Life. And the book is called What My Sister Told Me After She Was Murdered. You can buy it on Amazon. You can read it in your weekend sitting in the sun or in the snow, depending upon where you are. Sorry, guys, I'm in Southern California and it's just beautiful out today. Annie Lisa (01:03:19.064) Okay. Lyndsay Soprano (01:03:24.168) And but this has been absolutely wonderful. And actually, guys, it took us so many times to make this interview happen because of technical difficulties. so for you and I, at this point, we're kind of like sisters in a weird, weird, random way. We've become close to each other. And I'm so grateful for it because. Annie Lisa (01:03:42.211) You bet. Lyndsay Soprano (01:03:48.162) I don't think if we had all these technical difficulties, we may have not been texting each other and loving each other throughout the week, which we now do, which I just absolutely adore. So thank you so much for your time here today with us, Annie. This has been wonderful. Thank you so much. Annie Lisa (01:03:53.618) Right. Annie Lisa (01:04:02.512) Lindsay, thank you so much. You are an absolute delight and it's been a pleasure to be on your show and thank you for your patience and thank you for inviting me to be here. Lyndsay Soprano (01:04:13.228) You got it, babe. You know you're not going anywhere in my life. 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