Latest / Mini Scroll / MINI SCROLL: Ash Trevino lore explained, Madeleine White pyjama drama, Dave Portnoy vs. Grace O'Malley + more
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- 0:00Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
- 0:04culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
- 0:07media, the creator economy and the digital space every Monday
- 0:11through Thursday. I'm your host, Lauren Meissner,
- 0:14the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
- 0:20Welcome back to Mini Scroll 2025, everyone.
- 0:25Oh my God, having a three-week break off the podcast was so
- 0:32honestly intense. I'm going to say it took me like
- 0:35a good week and a half to like fully decompress and like feel
- 0:39like I was somewhat offline. I obviously did not really stay
- 0:42offline, but I kept seeing things throughout the first
- 0:46probably like 7 to 10 days where I'd like screenshot it or be
- 0:50like, Oh my God, I need to remember this.
- 0:51And then I'd be like, wait, I'm actually not doing the podcast
- 0:55tomorrow. It was honestly a very needed
- 0:58break. I did a lot of resting.
- 1:01I actually didn't do a lot of like socializing or even like
- 1:05exercising. I just like rested.
- 1:08I feel like I got some good deep rest and I am ready for 2025.
- 1:13And we have some exciting little updates for the pod coming to
- 1:18you. Maybe I'll let you guys know
- 1:19like tomorrow or maybe it will just be a surprise for you guys,
- 1:23but we do have a fun little update for you guys just
- 1:27specifically around mini scroll this year.
- 1:29OK, before we get into the biggest stories that we missed
- 1:32over the break, I have quite a few stories for you guys.
- 1:36I did want to acknowledge the LA fires going on right now.
- 1:40I know we have a lot of listeners in the LA area and I
- 1:43just wanted to let you guys know I'm thinking of you.
- 1:46We're thinking of you here at Centennial World Infinite
- 1:49Scroll. I am sure that this incredibly
- 1:52difficult time is only made worse by going online and seeing
- 1:57that tons of people are saying that you don't deserve to be
- 2:02sad. You don't deserve to be talking
- 2:06about this publicly. Like losing your home publicly
- 2:08or all of the displacement and like the trauma that everyone's
- 2:13enduring because you live in Los Angeles and everyone seems to
- 2:16think that people that live in LA must be multi billionaires
- 2:20and don't deserve empathy. That has been a a really
- 2:23horrific thing to witness from the other side of the world here
- 2:27in Australia. So I can't even imagine what you
- 2:30guys must feel like. So please know there are
- 2:32millions of people in the world who don't think like that.
- 2:35And if you guys have any resources or anything you want
- 2:38me to share, Obviously, being a daily podcast, I can get that up
- 2:42really quickly. Like I can talk about it, you
- 2:43know, tomorrow, the next day, whatever.
- 2:45I can put links in my bio in my description.
- 2:47So just let me know if there's anything you know that you guys
- 2:50would like for me to share. OK, so there have obviously been
- 2:53some tech updates, so we're going to be saving the tech
- 2:56updates for Wednesday episodes. So the stuff going on with like
- 3:00Meta no longer fact checking or moderating or whatever, like all
- 3:04of that stuff will still be covered, but it will be covered
- 3:07in Wednesday's episode going forward.
- 3:09OK, so these are kind of like rapid fire biggest headlines on
- 3:13the Internet from these last three weeks.
- 3:16The first one that I need to talk about.
- 3:17I hope some of you guys know this name.
- 3:21Well, actually, I hope maybe you don't know this name, but I hope
- 3:24that this is not completely random to you.
- 3:26I'm going to be giving you guys a high level overview of Ash
- 3:30Trevino on TikTok. The whole scandal around her,
- 3:34the mass unfollowing spree, like what is going on with this woman
- 3:39Ash Trevino, who seemed to just like come out of nowhere in
- 3:42December and now has taken over at least my for you page and I
- 3:46assume for some of you guys as well.
- 3:48So over the past month, 35 year old creator named Ash Trevino
- 3:51has gone super viral on TikTok. Ash first gained notoriety as a
- 3:55prison inmate, hopper quote UN quote because the men that she
- 3:59dated were basically all incarcerated.
- 4:01However, she gained hundreds of thousands of followers in just a
- 4:05few weeks when she started going live all day every day and
- 4:09people just couldn't stop watching.
- 4:11So the lore around her is so extensive I would have had to
- 4:16cover her. I'm not kidding every single day
- 4:19on mini scroll for these last three weeks.
- 4:21I feel like to properly convey how much lore and like
- 4:25everything that's going on with her.
- 4:26But if you guys do want something that's a bit more in
- 4:28depth than what I'm going to give you today, Tik Toker
- 4:32Brielli belly 123 is basically doing like a daily Ash Trevino
- 4:37updates. She's doing like play by play
- 4:39updates every single day on her TikTok, or she was at least for
- 4:42a couple of weeks there. So definitely go check out her
- 4:45content if you want more. So the main criticism of Ash is
- 4:49that she is a bad mom and she seems to compete with her
- 4:53daughters. She has one daughter who's 12
- 4:55and one who is 15. Given that Ash is literally
- 4:59always live, we have had quite the front row seat to her
- 5:03parenting. So one of the first major, I
- 5:05guess red flags was that Ash would go live with her
- 5:09boyfriends. So she always has like a bunch
- 5:11of guys that she's speaking with and she'll go live and like,
- 5:14well, she's always on live. So it's not that she's going
- 5:16live and then like calling them or texting them or speaking to
- 5:19them, like she's just always live.
- 5:21But when she's on live, you know, she'll be talking to her
- 5:24boyfriends. Like I said, a lot of them or
- 5:25most of them at this point have been inmates.
- 5:28And so sometimes these boyfriends will like get out of
- 5:31jail and she would reportedly, I have not seen this on any of the
- 5:35content or research that I've done.
- 5:37So this is, you know, speculative.
- 5:39I've seen this in videos and stuff, people covering it.
- 5:41I have not seen it myself. But reportedly she would, you
- 5:45know, have these guys over and they would be like hooking up, I
- 5:48guess, but she would still be on live, but they'd be like off
- 5:51camera. Her daughter, one of her
- 5:52daughters is her moderator, I guess for her TikTok live chat.
- 5:56So her daughter would be like watching, seeing her mom hook up
- 6:01or at least hearing her mom hook up, basically just off to the
- 6:05side of live with these guys. And there was an instance, I
- 6:09guess, where her daughter had to come in and say, mom, like, you
- 6:11need to turn off the chat, Like, you need to get off live because
- 6:14they were like, getting so into it.
- 6:16Ash has also told stories of how she used to treat one of her
- 6:20daughters really badly. Whenever we live with her dad, I
- 6:23used to pull her by the hair because I was so mad at her.
- 6:27Like I feel like he loved her more than he loved me and so
- 6:30like I took my anger. Out on her.
- 6:31Another notable moment is when Ash was live and her daughter
- 6:35came into her room crying saying she had just thrown up and Ash
- 6:38was like why you're lying? And then just like, turned back
- 6:42around and started dancing on TikTok live again, no.
- 6:46I just threw up. We just threw up.
- 6:48Why? You're lying.
- 6:52It's not like you know what? I'm just kidding.
- 6:59There's another viral clip of Ash asking her daughter if she
- 7:01wants lip filler and then her daughter says no.
- 7:04I think my lips are big enough for me.
- 7:06And then Ash says they're not that big.
- 7:08Baby. I'm not laughing because I think
- 7:12any of this is funny. Like we are watching a woman be
- 7:15incredibly neglectful and abusive, in my opinion, to her
- 7:19daughters. It's really really sad and I
- 7:21cannot believe honestly that the platform has not de platformed
- 7:25her banter at this point. As far as I know they haven't.
- 7:27There's always rumors like every single day people will be like
- 7:30Ash Trevino's been banned when I am recording this.
- 7:33As far as I know she has not been banned.
- 7:35She has various different, I don't know if they're like
- 7:37burner accounts or second accounts or if they're just fan
- 7:40accounts, but those accounts occasionally have been taken
- 7:43down. But as far as I know, her main
- 7:45account has not been OK. But the thing that really blew
- 7:48all of this up was Ash's like, quote, UN quote, relationship
- 7:52with this other TikTok creator named Santos.
- 7:55And this all happened over the holidays.
- 7:57So one of Ash's daughters had a crush on this TikTok creator
- 8:01named Santos, who was 19. And Ash basically found this out
- 8:06and then went after Santos when she found out that her daughter
- 8:10had a crush on him. So Ash started interacting with
- 8:12him on TikTok, like going live with him and stuff like that.
- 8:15Obviously, I think Santos saw the amount of attention that he
- 8:18was getting because of this. So he decided to like lean in.
- 8:22So he travelled to visit Ash to meet her.
- 8:26Remember Ash is 35 and Santos is 19.
- 8:30She got a makeup artist and a hair stylist to do her glam
- 8:35before he came to meet her. And like was talking about how
- 8:39it was a date, they went out for dinner, All of this is live.
- 8:42Like all of this was recorded. All of these interactions,
- 8:45everything like leading up to it, then meeting like him coming
- 8:48over, them going to a restaurant.
- 8:50Like you can find all of this on TikTok.
- 8:52There's several instances where Ash was super inappropriate with
- 8:55Santos on TikTok live, like asking him to tell the viewers
- 9:00what her nunu feels like. So all of these interactions
- 9:04were going super viral. And then Ash and Santos and
- 9:09Ash's I think like friend, if you guys know who Miss Gold is
- 9:14in this kind of circle, like in Ash's circle, please let me
- 9:17know. I watched a video of Miss Gold
- 9:19talking about how she met Ash and it just seems like they're
- 9:21just kind of friends that ended up doing like lives together and
- 9:24hanging out a lot. And then she got kind of like
- 9:26associated with with Ash. But let me know if that's not
- 9:30the case anyway. So Ash Santos and then Miss Gold
- 9:34released a song called Nunu. So the main lyrics of this song
- 9:38that have been going all over TikTok is Ash singing.
- 9:42You want to know how it smell as Santos he know it smell.
- 9:47Well, this is a 19 year old boy OK.
- 9:55And then Santos in this song goes, I want no, no, I want no,
- 10:00no, like I can't. What the fuck?
- 10:05No, Like, actually, what is my job?
- 10:07OK, So things started to go downhill between Ash and Santos
- 10:11when Perez Hilton went live. Perez Hilton.
- 10:14No, like, I can't. This doesn't sound real.
- 10:17This story is like, really sad for her daughters.
- 10:19And like, I'm very concerned about like, what is going on in
- 10:24that house. But then it's also so insane.
- 10:28It sounds like an SNL skit or something.
- 10:30So Perez Hilton got involved because he saw that there was
- 10:33like so much attention on Ash and Santos.
- 10:36So he was like, I'm just going to do like an interview on
- 10:39TikTok live with Ash about what's going on with her and
- 10:42Santos. Wait.
- 10:43Is Santos your new boyfriend? He's.
- 10:45Just a boy toy. And he's 19 And you're how old
- 10:53are you? He's here for the team.
- 10:57I'm trying to get the team the. Fuck around.
- 11:00No, I didn't know he was 19 Efforts.
- 11:02And then I guess Santos got really angry about this TikTok
- 11:05live. Apparently during all of this
- 11:07Santos stuff, TikTok users started campaigning for a mass
- 11:11unfollowing of Ash on December 31st.
- 11:15I mean, there was a lot leading up to it, obviously.
- 11:18And I know a lot of creators that are really protective of
- 11:20children online and children's privacy and safety and stuff had
- 11:24been advocating for Ash's, you know, account to get taken down
- 11:27for child services to make calls.
- 11:29I think that Child Protective Services had been called on her
- 11:33several times. I'm not totally clear on that,
- 11:35but I do think they had been. So, you know, it was like a long
- 11:38time coming, but I think the Santos stuff was so amplified
- 11:43and that's when she started to get like a lot of fame.
- 11:46That's when people were like, OK, this is this is we got to
- 11:49stop this. Like we have to stop her.
- 11:51It's very obvious that Ash is addicted to like the money that
- 11:54she gets on live, the clout, the attention.
- 11:58But yes, so Ash made it to 1,000,000 followers, but then on
- 12:02December 31st there was this campaign to mass unfollow her.
- 12:05I mean, it didn't like these things never like really work,
- 12:08but it kind of worked. Like she lost like 200,000
- 12:10followers. Like I said though, she has
- 12:13several backup accounts that have hundreds of thousands of
- 12:15followers. So I don't know, I think the
- 12:18Internet will get bored of Ash soon as we've seen that like no
- 12:22matter how kind of viral a character like this might go, at
- 12:26the end of the day, the cycle is so quick.
- 12:29The trend cycle is so quick. So I do think even if more
- 12:33people don't engage in this, like mass unfollowing or
- 12:35whatever, like I think her relevance will wane quite
- 12:38quickly. And hopefully that will give her
- 12:41some space and distance and time away from the Internet to like
- 12:46evaluate what the fuck has gone on these last four weeks.
- 12:50OK, the next story that I have for you guys is I'm going to
- 12:53breakdown the Madeline White. See you tomorrow.
- 12:56Pajama drama. More pajama drama with Tik
- 13:00Tokers. OK so Madeline White is a
- 13:03fashion and lifestyle Tik toker with over 4.7 million followers.
- 13:08In May, Madeline launched her PJ line called See You Tomorrow.
- 13:12She got some backlash for the price, charging $145.00 for sets
- 13:18that were 100% polyester. This backlash LED Maddie to take
- 13:22her website down and re strategize.
- 13:24So seven months later in December, See You Tomorrow
- 13:27relaunched with new designs and a new Ethos quote.
- 13:31I decided to bet on myself and put my money where my mouth is
- 13:34and to create the product that I wanted to make.
- 13:37So things I think we're going OK until a creator Please don't buy
- 13:41that purchased $500 worth of see you tomorrow items and started
- 13:46calling out different issues like unfinished stitching,
- 13:50frayed edges and the use of rayon and viscose materials in
- 13:54the products. This review exploded into a
- 13:57scandal when she followed up that there was a major
- 14:01discrepancy between the materials labeled online versus
- 14:05on a physical dress that she had purchased Pedestrian TV writes
- 14:09quote. Priced at 148 USD, it was
- 14:12marketed as 92% silk and 8% spandex on the website.
- 14:18This is the dress right? However, Please Don't Buy That
- 14:20showed viewers that it was actually labeled as 95% viscose
- 14:24and 5% elastane in her haul video.
- 14:28Plus, she claimed that the dress was see through, calling out
- 14:31Madeline for gooping customers. Madeline got pretty defensive.
- 14:36She basically said that the dress was mislabeled and the
- 14:38creator had received an e-mail about it.
- 14:41She did keep apologizing over the next few days, insisting
- 14:44that it was mistake and basically asking her followers
- 14:47to give her brand a chance to not write them off.
- 14:50And she also noted that she's a woman owned business and talked
- 14:53about how difficult it is for those to succeed.
- 14:56And while that is absolutely true, as a female founder
- 14:59myself, I do think when you have 4.7 million followers, you have
- 15:03this built in platform that is so advantageous.
- 15:07And I do think at a certain point might outweigh a lot of
- 15:11the challenges that typical female founders experience.
- 15:15You know, at the end of the day, making mistakes this big and now
- 15:20it's been twice. I know the first time wasn't
- 15:22like a mistake, but you know, getting backlash like that, I
- 15:25think you just have to be so much more careful as a woman in
- 15:28business, you have to dot all your IS cross all your T's.
- 15:32Like if this was genuinely a mislabelling issue, like if this
- 15:36was not just, you know, kind of like shady marketing.
- 15:39I think unfortunately, this is just the reality of it.
- 15:42Like, you have this giant platform.
- 15:44With this huge platform comes a lot of responsibility.
- 15:47And being a woman in business, unfortunately does come with a
- 15:50lot of adversity. So I don't know.
- 15:54I don't know if anyone else has purchased her products and had
- 15:57issues with it. But yeah, I think having kind of
- 16:02like faulty launches twice, it's like Tales all this time with
- 16:06these influencer brands. OK, the next story that I have
- 16:09for you guys is that Grace O'Malley is feuding with Dave
- 16:14Portnoy. Well, actually, Dave Portnoy is
- 16:16feuding with Grace O'Malley, kind of.
- 16:18OK, let me get into it. So I cannot believe that in 2025
- 16:23we are going into the new year still talking about Grace
- 16:27O'Malley and Brianna Chicken Fries friendship breakup.
- 16:29But here we are. Over the break.
- 16:32Grace went on Theo Von's podcast and opened up a little bit about
- 16:35the situation. She was actually really sweet
- 16:37about her friendship with Brianna.
- 16:39And then she addressed her pay very briefly.
- 16:42In it, she said that Barstool paid her a quote, decent salary,
- 16:46but that the company paid Brianna quote a whole shit ton
- 16:49more. Dave Portnoy, founder of
- 16:51Barstool, decided that he should address this, even though
- 16:56honestly, I didn't really see anyone talking about this before
- 17:00Dave addressed it. I think a lot of people
- 17:03understand that Grace was coming into the podcast, a podcast that
- 17:08was already somewhat established.
- 17:10You know, Brianna already had a bigger following.
- 17:13She was already a personality in and of herself.
- 17:16The podcast was her podcast. She was just more influential
- 17:19than Grace at the time. So I don't think anybody
- 17:22questioned that like Brianna would be getting paid more in a
- 17:26business capacity than Grace. But I don't know.
- 17:29Dave thought he needed to address it.
- 17:31So he said, quote, she was finishing up her third year at
- 17:35barstool. Her base salary was $175,000 a
- 17:38year. He then said on top of her base,
- 17:41she received 70% of any Barstool revenue brought in from her
- 17:45personal social channels. So that amounted to another
- 17:4875,000 quote total salary for her last year, a quarter
- 17:51$1,255,000 to Grace. I think that's pretty fair,
- 17:55pretty good, OK, Grace said she had a decent salary.
- 17:59Like what? I also just think, I mean
- 18:03unsurprising but like what an unprofessional business person.
- 18:09Like what an unprofessional business owner.
- 18:11What a horrible boss. For your former boss to be going
- 18:15on his giant platforms and telling millions of people what
- 18:20your personal salary was and it only like she only just left the
- 18:24business. That is just so disgusting.
- 18:29I feel so inappropriate. I feel so bad for Grace like
- 18:32this. I just this these whole past
- 18:34like few months have just probably been such a horrible,
- 18:38difficult time for her. And I understand she's also had
- 18:41a lot of support and now she's part of unwell and she's getting
- 18:43all these opportunities. But regardless, the way that
- 18:47people at barstool like Dave, Brianna, Josh, whatever have
- 18:50been talking about Grace publicly treating her just like
- 18:54throwing shit out about her without her like having a chance
- 18:56to respond or address. Oh my God, like I just, I feel
- 19:01so bad for her. Do not get in bed with Barstool
- 19:04Sports. Moral of the story?
- 19:07OK, the next story that I have is we have several engagements
- 19:12apparently that happened over the break.
- 19:13So Dua Lipa, Zendaya, and Mr. Beast all apparently got
- 19:18engaged. So we obviously know for sure
- 19:21Mr. Beast got engaged. He got engaged on Christmas Day
- 19:24in matching merch with like his entire family including his
- 19:28girlfriend slash fiance. Now it is the biggest PR
- 19:32deflection that I've ever seen. I don't know if you guys have
- 19:34all seen the video but she looks so unsurprised, almost like
- 19:40confused if she should say yes. It's it's crazy.
- 19:43They're all wearing Mr. Beach like Mr. Beach Mr. Beast
- 19:48Christmas merch. It's just like, I can't.
- 19:54If Mr. Beast has no haters, I'm dead.
- 19:58Like I can't. We do have confirmation as well
- 20:01that Zendaya is engaged. So engagement rumors started
- 20:04running wild when Zendaya showed up to the Golden Globes a few
- 20:07days ago wearing what seemed to be a diamond ring.
- 20:11Zendaya has been dating actor Tom Holland, as we know, for
- 20:14years, so she did avoid questions about it at the event.
- 20:18However, People magazine reported that they were engaged
- 20:21and then now Tom Holland's dad confirmed this as well on his
- 20:26Patreon. Does anyone subscribe to Tom
- 20:29Holland's dad's Patreon? Is Tom Holland a neppo baby?
- 20:33Like, does his dad have a Patreon for a reason?
- 20:35Or is it just because he is Tom Holland's dad?
- 20:38Either way, I guess they're engaged, which is really cute.
- 20:41And they're like, such, oh, I just love them.
- 20:44They're so cute. I feel like they have really
- 20:46grown on me over the years. And I just, like, obviously love
- 20:48Zendaya. So I love it.
- 20:50And then Dua Lipa as well has been wearing what looks to be an
- 20:53engagement ring. And sources have claimed that
- 20:55her boyfriend, Callum Turner, popped the question over
- 20:58Christmas. And she is posting so many
- 21:00photos, like, with that ring. Like, she is like, as if, like,
- 21:02you know, she's like, celebrating.
- 21:04Like she's holding drinks. And like you can see the ring
- 21:06like she is showing it off in her Instagram stuff.
- 21:08So I think she's probably engaged.
- 21:10OK. And the last thing I wanted to
- 21:12quickly address, so I'm not going to cover the Blake Lively,
- 21:16Justin Baldoni lawsuit stuff that happened over the break.
- 21:19Like literally two days after I went on break from Mini, Blake's
- 21:23lawsuit dropped. And then obviously Justin filed
- 21:25a lawsuit. So I'm not going to cover it in
- 21:27Mini because it will actually be a bigger deep dive on Friday for
- 21:32the deep dive. Anyways, guys, that is it for
- 21:36mini scroll today. Forgive me if I forgot any major
- 21:39stories of the break. You know, while I was off,
- 21:42obviously it was a lot of weeks and I was spending my time like
- 21:45screenshotting so I could remember what to cover.
- 21:48But I love you guys. I'm so excited for 2025.
- 21:51I feel refreshed, I feel ready. Please rate, review and
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