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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying You Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me tonight.
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Speaker 3: The climate and energy scam, how the government is using
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Speaker 3: fear and lies to hurt you, damage the country, and
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Speaker 3: benefit China.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty has called it out. I speak to Dave.
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Speaker 3: Sharma and David Pearl assassination attempt survivor. Donald Trump lashes
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Speaker 3: out at the political left over political violence and the
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Speaker 3: assassination of Charlie Kirk. I'll speak with Kristen Tate in
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Speaker 3: the US. Also, as Arab nations condemn Israel over its
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Speaker 3: Humas hit in Doha last week. I'll talk to the
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Speaker 3: Middle Eastern expert who can explain why this will help
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Speaker 3: to deliver peace.
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Speaker 2: Also Tim Blair on climate fear pawn.
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Speaker 3: And Steven Senna Tiempo and Suzi O'Brien on the Eurovision
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Speaker 3: slight against Israel.
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Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
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Speaker 3: Let's expose the climate policy con inflicted on this country.
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Speaker 3: It is the single biggest drag on our economy, killing industries,
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Speaker 3: thwarting investment, shedding jobs, increasing prices, hurting small businesses, pushing
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Speaker 3: families to the brink.
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Speaker 2: All for nothing. That's the killer point. It is all
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Speaker 2: for nothing.
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Speaker 3: It delivers zero environmental benefit, is all pain for us,
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Speaker 3: and the only gain is for China, which enriches itself
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Speaker 3: using our coal and iron ore to make the steel
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Speaker 3: turbines and solar panels that it sends back to us.
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Speaker 2: They must laugh at our self harm.
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Speaker 3: But predictably, when the government tried to scare us witless
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Speaker 3: about global warming yesterday, it found willing accomplices in most
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Speaker 3: of the media.
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Speaker 4: A landmark report on the consequences of rising emissions for the.
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Speaker 5: Cost of in action will always outweigh the cost of.
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Speaker 4: Action if climate change can't be limited. The report warns
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Speaker 4: by twenty fifty one and a half million Australians will
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Speaker 4: be at risk from rising sea levels. The report also
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Speaker 4: warns if global temperatures rise by three degrees, heat related
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Speaker 4: deaths will quadruple in Sydney alone by more than four
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Speaker 4: hundred a year, and millions of days of work will
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Speaker 4: be lost in agriculture, construction and mining out of suburbs
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Speaker 4: and regional communities the most at risk.
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Speaker 6: It reinforces the fact that we need to act, and
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Speaker 6: act in a serious way.
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Speaker 2: With the transition a.
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Speaker 7: Die and new climate change report predicts heat wave deaths
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Speaker 7: will soar in Western Sydney, farming will be less profitable
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Speaker 7: and government budgets will be drained. The Albanezi government warns
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Speaker 7: every single Australian will be affected.
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Speaker 8: Australian Climate Service modeling of three degrees by twenty ninety
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Speaker 8: would see heat wave deaths increasing by three hundred percent
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Speaker 8: in Melbourn and Perth four hundred percent in Western Sydney.
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Speaker 9: A high level snapshot of Australia's exposure to climate change
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Speaker 9: has worn that millions of people will be at risk
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Speaker 9: from rising sea levels and more will die from heat waves.
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Speaker 9: The alarming report will likely spur the government into setting
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Speaker 9: an ambitious submission reduction target for twenty thirty five.
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Speaker 3: Scientists have long warned apocalyptic scenes like these in Black
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Speaker 3: Summer five years ago will be more frequent.
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Speaker 5: That our whole country has a lot of steak.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we sure do have a lot at stake.
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Speaker 3: And the threat is not the climate but the reckless,
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Speaker 3: dishonest and ideological policies of Crisp bow On there and
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Speaker 3: the alban Eazy government. Just listen to this nonsense from
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister today and.
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, Kieran.
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Speaker 6: The cost of the floods, the algal bloom we're seeing
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Speaker 6: in South Australia at the moment, the impact that's having
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Speaker 6: on the sea feed instrum, the floods on the Mid
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Speaker 6: North Coast, the bushfires, the cyclones off the coast of
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Speaker 6: the Gold Coast and New South Wales North coast, that's
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Speaker 6: sort of tropical area. So we know that climate change
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Speaker 6: is having an impact. We know there's an economic cost
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Speaker 6: to that as well as a human cost.
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Speaker 3: They won't do a cost benefit analysis, they won't level
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Speaker 3: with us about the costs of action, so they pretend
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Speaker 3: that we're already facing a high cost from inaction. This
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Speaker 3: is utterly unsci unscientific spin and lies. Not one of
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Speaker 3: the events the PM mentioned is unprecedented, Not one can
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Speaker 3: be attributed to climate change. No reputable scientists can say
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Speaker 3: these events have not happened before, nor deny they will
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Speaker 3: happen again. And even if these weather events were becoming
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Speaker 3: more common, nothing that Australia does with its emissions can
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Speaker 3: make any difference. Yet day after day we get alarmism
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Speaker 3: and spin.
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Speaker 5: This report is a reminder if we needed oneever, but
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Speaker 5: the cost of inaction will always outweigh the cost of action.
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Speaker 3: This is not just a lie, a bald faced political lie.
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Speaker 3: It's also just an absurdity, a fallacy that insults the
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Speaker 3: intelligence of voters, because quite simply, there is no cost
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Speaker 3: to inaction. The climate will do whatever it will do,
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Speaker 3: with or without climate action from Australia. That is just fact, cold,
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Speaker 3: hard scientific fact. Because we are only one percent of
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Speaker 3: global emissions and falling while global emissions are still growing strongly.
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Speaker 3: Eight years ago, even our then chief scientists admitted that
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Speaker 3: if we got rid of all our emissions to reduce
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Speaker 3: global emissions by one point three percent, the impact of
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Speaker 3: climate would be virtually nothing his words, virtually nothing, And
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Speaker 3: our emissions are a smaller share now, and global emissions
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Speaker 3: have grown by billions of tons.
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Speaker 2: Even if we shut our country down and.
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Speaker 3: All left it, it would do precisely nothing to the climate.
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Speaker 3: So inaction equals zero cost.
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Speaker 2: If we do.
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Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing changes but the cost of action.
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Speaker 2: What is that? How much do you.
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Speaker 3: Think the government is spending on your behalf? How much
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Speaker 3: are you paying in extra electricity prices? How much economic
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Speaker 3: activity have we sabotaged already? The government never offers those figures.
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Speaker 3: It is not interested in a cost benefit analysis. Because
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Speaker 3: it knows its ridiculous, ideological net zero campaign would be
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Speaker 3: exposed as a green left folly. So I used AI
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Speaker 3: today to get some rough estimates, and here's what chat
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Speaker 3: GPT found.
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Speaker 2: Over the last decade.
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Speaker 3: It says federal and state governments has spent more than
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Speaker 3: thirty billion dollars on climate and energy schemes, and then
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Speaker 3: there's at least twelve billion dollars for snowy two point zero.
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Speaker 3: So there's a total cost of more than forty two
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Speaker 3: billion dollars from governments to start with. Add to that
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Speaker 3: at least seventy billion and probably one hundred billion dollars
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Speaker 3: in private investment in renewables and batteries, which all has
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Speaker 3: to be paid back in higher prices by US. So
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Speaker 3: you have a total cost over a decade of one
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Speaker 3: hundred and ten to one hundred and forty five billion
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Speaker 3: dollars for zero return. The cost benefit analysis is easy.
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Speaker 3: It's a cost of about one hundred and fifty billion
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Speaker 3: dollars and rising steeply or zero benefit. Of course, most
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Speaker 3: of the media simply ignores all these facts.
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Speaker 2: They are complicit in the campaign of fear and lies.
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Speaker 3: But ABC Radio in Sydney this morning took this inanity
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Speaker 3: to a new level.
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Speaker 10: Now you might be thinking about what we as a
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Speaker 10: planet can do about this, what we as a country
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Speaker 10: can do about this, But what about you can do
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Speaker 10: to manage this right here at home, right here in
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Speaker 10: Sydney suburbs.
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Speaker 3: Seriously changing them global climate, one ABC backyard at a time.
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Speaker 3: The host, Hamish MacDonald then went on to interview someone
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Speaker 3: from the Climate Council for more alarmism. No wonder ABC
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Speaker 3: audiences are fearful of the world around them. Some sharper
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Speaker 3: analysis came from an economics professor and company director and
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Speaker 3: contributing economics edit to the Australian Judith Sloan, who explained
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Speaker 3: today who all this helps? She notes that the big
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Speaker 3: players China, India and the US are not targeting that.
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Speaker 2: Zero by twenty fifty. They don't have to do anything.
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Speaker 3: In fact, Sloan rights, it is estimated that sixty to
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Speaker 3: seventy percent of global emissions are not covered by any
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Speaker 3: policy constraints. The world's confected outrage about climate change has
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Speaker 3: been an economic boon to China, right Sloan, as it
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Speaker 3: essentially corners the market in solar panels, wind turbines, and batteries.
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Speaker 3: It's a great business model for China.
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Speaker 2: Spot on.
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Speaker 3: It works for China, it strengthens China, but it hurts us.
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Speaker 2: It weakens us.
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Speaker 3: Which is why Coalition Frontbenture Andrew Hasty is being true
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Speaker 3: to the science, true to the economics, and true to
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Speaker 3: the national interest, as well as true to himself by
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Speaker 3: saying he'd rather resign than support the Liberals sticking with
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Speaker 3: a net zero policy.
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Speaker 11: If Susan le though supports net zero by twenty fifty,
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Speaker 11: where does that leave you? That leaves me that a job.
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Speaker 11: Go on, elaborate on that. That would be it for you.
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Speaker 11: As I've nailed my color. I've nailed my colors to
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Speaker 11: the mask. Gary, Like, if I go out with a
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Speaker 11: tide in two and a half years, that's great. You know,
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Speaker 11: I'll get a lot more time with my kids back.
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Speaker 12: My primary mission in politics is to build a stronger,
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Speaker 12: more secure, more competitive Australia. Energy security is a vital
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Speaker 12: input to that. So that's my bottom line. You want
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Speaker 12: to fight for a better deal for my state, for
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Speaker 12: my country.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he happens to be right, no doubt. People will
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Speaker 3: criticize him, they'll portray him as a dinosaur but none
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Speaker 3: of them will be able to contest the logic or
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Speaker 3: the facts. The facts make it very clear that there
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Speaker 3: is net zero benefit to Australia in shewing net zero.
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Speaker 3: Another day, another slight against Israel, another case of blind
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Speaker 3: ignorance and hipocrisy from European nations when it comes to
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Speaker 3: the war in Gaza.
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Speaker 2: This time it's.
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Speaker 3: Spain joining a push to try to have Israel banned
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Speaker 3: from next year's Eurovision Song contest. Spain is threatening to
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Speaker 3: boycott the event if Israel stays in.
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Speaker 13: This year's Eurovision and Basil and the performance of Israel's
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Speaker 13: Hubel Raphael, a survivor of the October the seventh Hammers
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Speaker 13: attack on the Nova Music Festival and a song that
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Speaker 13: topped the public vote, but the presence of Israel and
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Speaker 13: Eurovision has both in Basil and the year before in Malmo,
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Speaker 13: brought protest, and following these scenes, this weekend at spain
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Speaker 13: Sa kling reis Lavuelta, the Spanish Prime Minister joined a
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Speaker 13: growing call for a boycott of Israel. Russia, he said,
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Speaker 13: had been expelled from foreign competitions after Ukraine. Israel, he
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Speaker 13: feels should face a similar response for Gaza.
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Speaker 3: Boki Why was Russia expelled after the invasion of Ukraine
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Speaker 3: and Israel is not expelled after the invasion of Gaza?
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Speaker 3: What a clown? What a comparison. Russia launched an unprovoked
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Speaker 3: invasion of another nation. Israel is more akin to Ukraine.
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Speaker 3: Israel was invaded by Hamas terrorists and other Gazans. On
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Speaker 3: October the seventh, twenty twenty three, Israel was invaded and
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Speaker 3: its civilians were targeted. They were not only murdered, tortured,
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Speaker 3: raped and mutilated, but two hundred and fifty hostages were
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Speaker 3: taken back to Gaza, where forty eight remain with hopes
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Speaker 3: the twenty are still alive. How can this minister make
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Speaker 3: such an ignorant and hateful comparison. The war in Gaza
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Speaker 3: will end the moment Hummus' hands over the hostages and
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Speaker 3: lays down its arms, Yet Spain.
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Speaker 2: Accuses Israel of being the aggressor. Shameful.
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Speaker 3: It's worth pointing out that the single worst sight of killings,
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Speaker 3: rapes and kidnap taking during the Hummus invasion was at
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Speaker 3: a music festival, of course, Yes, the Nova Music Festival,
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Speaker 3: where young people were celebrating peace and love, was turned
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Speaker 3: into a killing field of unspeakable cruelty and barbarism by
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Speaker 3: the Hummas invasion. And Spain's response is to try to
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Speaker 3: keep Israel out of a music contest. Let's hope that
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Speaker 3: Spain does boycott. They can Seesta this one out. And
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Speaker 3: let's hope Ireland, Iceland, Slovenia and the Netherlands make good
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Speaker 3: on their promised boycotts too. Let them show their hate
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Speaker 3: by staying home. But Israel must compete, and let's hope
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Speaker 3: it wins, and then perhaps it could stage the next
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Speaker 3: Eurovision contest at the site of the Nova Festival. So
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Speaker 3: these countries are forced to confront reality. Let's the go
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Speaker 3: to Dave Sharma, who's the shadow Assistant Minister for Trusury.
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Speaker 2: He joins us live from Sydney.
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Speaker 3: Just first up on that Dave as a former ambassador
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Speaker 3: to Israel.
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Speaker 2: This is shameful from the Europeans for.
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Speaker 3: Something as trivial but as much loved as the Eurovision
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Speaker 3: Song contest.
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Speaker 14: It is shameful. And we saw Pedro Sanchez, the Spanish
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Speaker 14: Prime Minister. I don't know if you saw this, but
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Speaker 14: the Felta d'espana, which is like the Tour de France
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Speaker 14: of Spain, the stage was interrupted by pro Palestinian processes,
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Speaker 14: and rather than Sanchez the Prime Minister saying that's not
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Speaker 14: in our country. This is a major sporting event that
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Speaker 14: we're proud to host, he endorsed the actions of those
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Speaker 14: protesters disrupting this event, putting the cyclists in danger. Now
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Speaker 14: he's gone one step further and says he should boycott
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Speaker 14: your revision. I thought his parallel was bizarre. I mean,
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Speaker 14: as you pointed out, Israel was invaded by Hamas, just
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Speaker 14: like Ukraine was invaded by Russia. They didn't start this war,
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Speaker 14: they didn't seek this war, and all they've sought since
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Speaker 14: is to recover their hostages and make sure Hamas can
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Speaker 14: no longer pose a threat to them.
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Speaker 2: Yes, spot on.
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Speaker 3: Let's say bring it back to domestic politics and the
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Speaker 3: climate debate. Andrew Hasty is right, isn't he If we
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Speaker 3: want to look after the national interest, we cannot pursue
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Speaker 3: zero by twenty fifty.
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Speaker 14: Well, he's right in the sense that we should be
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Speaker 14: putting Australia's national interests first. You know, I've got no
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Speaker 14: problem with lower emissions, but I also want cheaper prices,
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Speaker 14: and I want more reliability and what we've had under
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Speaker 14: Labor is emission's not going any lower. The price is
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Speaker 14: a lot higher and reliability much lower. They've got the
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Speaker 14: worst of all wealths in their policy setting.
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Speaker 3: But the point here is that all their mission is
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Speaker 3: driven by this, these targets to get to a certain
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Speaker 3: target by twenty thirty. They're going to announce the twenty
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Speaker 3: thirty five targets soon. It's all driven by net zero
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Speaker 3: by twenty fifty. There's nothing wrong with doing some things
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Speaker 3: in energy and other industries to reduce emissions.
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Speaker 2: The problem is a target.
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Speaker 3: The problem is destroying our energy grid and destroying our
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Speaker 3: energy affordability in order to meet that target.
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Speaker 14: Surely, well yeah, Look, I'd say two things. Firstly, Labor
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Speaker 14: is basically no closer to their twenty thirty target than
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Speaker 14: they were three years ago. We're still at about twenty
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Speaker 14: eight percent of emissions less than in two thousand and five.
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Speaker 14: And yes, they have completely ignored prices affordability. I mean,
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Speaker 14: Labour's promised that electricity bills will be two hundred and
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Speaker 14: seventy five dollars low has not proven to be the case,
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Speaker 14: and we need to be making sure that whatever we
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Speaker 14: do is in Australia's national interests, our industries in competitiveness,
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Speaker 14: interests at consumers' interests to bring down prices. Now, if
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Speaker 14: that means lower emissions technology, if they bring down prices,
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Speaker 14: I'm all for them. But if they're going to jack
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Speaker 14: up prices and make electricity unaffordable for industry and four households,
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Speaker 14: then we should not be doing it.
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Speaker 2: We know that's the case so far.
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Speaker 3: Let's break it down to a simple matter of cost
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Speaker 3: versus benefit. What benefit has Australia delivered to the global
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Speaker 3: climate over the past ten years of emission's reduction action.
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Speaker 14: Well, the truth is, Chris, and you know as well.
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Speaker 14: We're a tiny fraction of global emissions, about one percent
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Speaker 14: or thereabout. So whatever Australia does is eclipsed by orders
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Speaker 14: of magnitude by the emissions from predominantly China, India and
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Speaker 14: the United States, which together account for about two thirds
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Speaker 14: of global emissions. So it makes no sense for Australia
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Speaker 14: to be harming ourselves if other nations are not putting
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Speaker 14: the same policies.
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Speaker 15: Straight jackets.
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Speaker 2: But let me get but we've done that already.
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Speaker 14: Right, That's at the heart of this.
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Speaker 3: We've reduced our emissions at great cost over the last
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Speaker 3: ten years. Yet global emissions have increased, so the environment
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Speaker 3: hasn't benefited at all. It hasn't done anything to change
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Speaker 3: the climate, improve the climate, or even slow down so
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Speaker 3: called global warming.
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Speaker 2: But it has cost us at least.
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Speaker 3: One hundred and forty five billion dollars by any analysis.
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Speaker 2: That's madness, isn't it? Well?
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Speaker 14: I think yeah, imposing a set of policy strate jackets
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Speaker 14: on yourself that is leading to no outcome of any consequence. Yes,
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Speaker 14: that is policy madness.
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Speaker 2: It sure is.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Dave Shama, the a Liberal Party
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Speaker 3: front bencher, coalition front bencher.
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Speaker 2: We'll see where this debate ends up.
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Speaker 3: I want to go to some hard headed analysis of
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Speaker 3: these very issues.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 3: I'm joined by David Pearl, who's a former Assistant Treasury
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Speaker 3: secretary and he now writes for the Australian newspaper. Joins
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Speaker 3: us live from Canberra. Great column from you today, David.
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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you again. Let's break this down
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Speaker 3: into two sides. I suppose let's talk first about the environment.
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Speaker 3: You know the numbers globally, all this stuff is factual.
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Speaker 3: What contribution is Australia's reduction in global emissions making to
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Speaker 3: the global emissions quoture.
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Speaker 16: Good aufternon, Chris, thanks for having me on. The answer
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Speaker 16: is negligible.
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Speaker 3: Well, we've reduced our emissions over the past decade, haven't we.
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Speaker 3: So what impact has that had on the total amount
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Speaker 3: of global emissions?
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Speaker 1: None?
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Speaker 16: And it's worth reminding your viewers. The background to the
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Speaker 16: international discussions on climate change mitigation and emissions reduction started
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Speaker 16: in Kyoto in the early ninety nineties. I was at
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Speaker 16: the OECD. I've spoken about this before. I was very
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Speaker 16: familiar with the Australian position, which was we should only
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Speaker 16: curb emissions growth. In fact, we rejected the idea of
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Speaker 16: reducing am misis of Kyoto, but we're willing to cap
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Speaker 16: their growth provided every other signatory and every other part
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Speaker 16: of the world, including developing country, did the same thing.
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Speaker 16: Now that consensus has fallen away, and even the transition
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Speaker 16: from Kyoto to Paris, Chris, which Chris Bowen and Anthony
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Speaker 16: Abernesi talks about, well, that's telling because Paris commitments are
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Speaker 16: not enforceable, they're not worth the paper they're written on.
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Speaker 16: And we see in Canada in particular, which is a
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Speaker 16: very similar economy to Australia high immigration, resource exporterer Mark Carney,
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Speaker 16: the labor the Anthony Albani, Alberanese equivalent in Canada, has
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Speaker 16: committed to a forty five to fifty percent cut in
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Speaker 16: emissions by twenty thirty five, so effectively he's halting what
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Speaker 16: Canada's doing. He's not in increasing the economic pain, and
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Speaker 16: he said he's more interested in competitiveness than targets. So
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Speaker 16: the rest of the world, even countries like Canada and
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Speaker 16: the UK, where Kirs Starmer is rolling out small modular
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Speaker 16: nuclear reactors across the country because he's concerned about rising
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Speaker 16: energy prices the world shifting, whereas Australia and I don't
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Speaker 16: fully understand it. Chris seems to be blissfully ignorant of
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Speaker 16: what's going on, and many voters who see rising power
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Speaker 16: bills every month are still buying. I think the most
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Speaker 16: egregious flies ever being told to Australian public in history.
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Speaker 16: I mean, I can't remember anything, and I've Registralian history,
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Speaker 16: and I'm sure you have, Chris and many of your listeners.
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Speaker 16: But Chris Bowen saying that the costs of inaction are
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Speaker 16: greater than the costs of action is astraight out liars
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Speaker 16: you have laid out before, because if we define action
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Speaker 16: as Australia reducing emissions, there's no benefit to that because
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Speaker 16: there's no impact on global climate, and there's an enormous
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Speaker 16: economic cost. And you mentioned one hundred and fifty one
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Speaker 16: hundred and twenty billion. It's far more than that crease
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Speaker 16: if you take into account higher electricity prices, lower living standards,
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Speaker 16: and lower growth.
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Speaker 2: Let me just pick that out.
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Speaker 3: Let me pick that what I wanted to get from you, because,
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Speaker 3: as you say, because global emissions are still rising despite
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Speaker 3: what Australia does, we know the cost of inaction is nothing.
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Speaker 3: We pay no cost from inaction because the climate will
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Speaker 3: happen to us no matter.
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Speaker 2: What we do with such a small share.
22:35
Speaker 3: So that there's lie from Bowen and the rest of
22:39
Speaker 3: them that the cost of inaction is higher than the
22:41
Speaker 3: cost of action is nonsense. Now I mentioned that one
22:44
Speaker 3: forty five billion figure, it has to be higher, and
22:47
Speaker 3: it's going to be going up by hundreds of billions
22:49
Speaker 3: of dollars in the future. And importantly, there's all these
22:52
Speaker 3: lost economic opportunities along the way. Isn't it tell us
22:55
Speaker 3: about that overall economic cost?
22:58
Speaker 16: Well, It's quite striking because developed economies got on the
23:02
Speaker 16: emissions reduction bandwagon probably twenty years ago, and developed economy
23:08
Speaker 16: economic growth has been very sluggish since then. Now, emissions
23:14
Speaker 16: rationing is an element of that. Henry Ugas has written,
23:17
Speaker 16: and I agree with him that a major cause of
23:21
Speaker 16: slow growth and stagflation in the nineteen seventies and eighties
23:25
Speaker 16: was the OPEC inflicted oil shop. Now Australia and other
23:29
Speaker 16: Western countries have self inflicted energy shocks. If you drive
23:34
Speaker 16: up the price of energy, you cut investment, you cut growth,
23:38
Speaker 16: and you lower living standards. And the thing that gets
23:40
Speaker 16: me angry about this, Chris, is that the people that
23:44
Speaker 16: cheer loudest for more emissions austerities I call it, are
23:48
Speaker 16: the wealthiest. The people that are hit hardest are the poorest.
23:54
Speaker 16: And so for a labor government to be imposing emissions
23:57
Speaker 16: austerity and that's what it is. I use the word
24:00
Speaker 16: austerity for good reason. If you ration emissions, as you know, Chris,
24:05
Speaker 16: and as many of your listeners know, you ration economic activity,
24:09
Speaker 16: you ration energy, you ration growth. Now, Economists thirty forty
24:13
Speaker 16: years ago were very very clear eyed on that that
24:16
Speaker 16: there's a trade off that you suffer lower growth and
24:20
Speaker 16: lower living standards if you cut emissions. And most economists
24:23
Speaker 16: twenty and thirty years ago, before the climate religion took hold,
24:26
Speaker 16: including in our Treasury department where I worked, understood that
24:31
Speaker 16: let's grow the economy, become richer. That enables us to
24:36
Speaker 16: invest in climate change adaptation, which is the only form
24:39
Speaker 16: of climate action that makes sense. Adaptation in the sense
24:42
Speaker 16: of protecting against bush flyers and droughts. But let's not
24:48
Speaker 16: stemy growth and limit living standards by cutting emissions.
24:51
Speaker 1: That's ideological.
24:53
Speaker 16: And you know, what we're doing has a lot to
24:55
Speaker 16: answer for because the views have changed.
24:58
Speaker 3: Well, said David the world said indeed, I appreciate it,
25:01
Speaker 3: David Peel. There we're cutting through with the facts and
25:04
Speaker 3: the reality here. The economics profession, it's got a lot
25:07
Speaker 3: to answer for. The media has much to answer for too,
25:10
Speaker 3: But in the end, it's the politicians making these lunar
25:13
Speaker 3: these decisions based on lunacy.
25:15
Speaker 2: We've got to take a break.
25:16
Speaker 3: After the break, I got to talk about how Arab
25:18
Speaker 3: nations have been condemning Israel's hit on Humas in Doah
25:21
Speaker 3: last week.
25:22
Speaker 2: Jonathan Spier will join me to explain why he thinks
25:25
Speaker 2: this could help deliver peace.
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Speaker 3: As I said, it's been a week since Israel conducted
25:32
Speaker 3: that air strike on Hummas leaders meeting in Doha. Arab
25:36
Speaker 3: and golf leaders have held an emergency summit in Katata
25:39
Speaker 3: sought out their response. Here's the latest from Global News.
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Speaker 17: At the very moment, Israel further flattened the gods and
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Speaker 17: landscape leaders throughout the Arab and Muslim world. We're in
25:51
Speaker 17: cutter offering a fierce condemnation of airstrikes in Doha on
25:55
Speaker 17: September ninth.
25:56
Speaker 18: We also expect our strategic partners in the United States
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Speaker 18: to use their influence on Israel in order for it
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Speaker 18: to stop this behavior now.
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Speaker 3: I said at the time that it was unfortunate to
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Speaker 3: breach Qatar's sovereignty, but anytime Hamas leaders are taken out,
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Speaker 3: it advances.
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Speaker 2: The cause of peace.
26:18
Speaker 3: Let's bring in doctor Jonathan Spire from the Middle East
26:21
Speaker 3: Forum joins us live from Jerusalem.
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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, Jonathan. You've written about
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Speaker 2: this in the Australian newspaper too.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know the region and the machinations so well.
26:32
Speaker 3: Tell us why you think that Israel striking at Qatars
26:35
Speaker 3: striking Hamas targets in Qatar is actually a good thing
26:39
Speaker 3: for the prospects in the Middle East.
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Speaker 19: Well, Chris, I think it was a positive move in
26:45
Speaker 19: the sense that it establishes a certain clarity where there
26:49
Speaker 19: has been much damaging ambiguity in recent years.
26:52
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I mean by that.
26:54
Speaker 19: The fact is that the emirateive Katta has played a
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Speaker 19: kind of double game across the region over the last
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Speaker 19: couple of decades, really, in that it has both, on
27:02
Speaker 19: the one hand, offered support to and domiciled many of
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Speaker 19: the most harmful Islamist terrorist organizations and propagandists, and then
27:12
Speaker 19: on the other hand, it offers itself as a kind
27:15
Speaker 19: of mediator between those organizations and their enemies. So it
27:19
Speaker 19: mediated between the United States and the Taliban, for example,
27:22
Speaker 19: and it has sought to mediate between Israel and Hamas.
27:26
Speaker 19: But this is not really a sustainable situation where you're
27:29
Speaker 19: on the one hand, facilitate, frankly, the activities of a
27:33
Speaker 19: terror group and on the other hand claimed to be
27:34
Speaker 19: part of the solution.
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Speaker 1: You can't really be both.
27:36
Speaker 19: And I think that Israel's decision to strike at the
27:40
Speaker 19: Hamas leadership in Doha, it's not cleared by the way,
27:43
Speaker 19: of course, as you know.
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Speaker 1: What the results of that strike were.
27:45
Speaker 19: But nevertheless, the act of the strike itself I think
27:49
Speaker 19: is significant in that it's kind of saying to cut out,
27:52
Speaker 19: look that practice is not sustainable.
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Speaker 1: You're either with us or you're with the terrorists, and
27:57
Speaker 1: you need to decide.
27:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've said that.
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Speaker 3: Its like the arsonist and the firefighters at the same
28:03
Speaker 3: time in supporting terrorism, including with its substantial dollars. Tell
28:08
Speaker 3: us also about the role of the Katari owned Al
28:12
Speaker 3: Jazeera broadcasting network and what it does for Islamists or
28:17
Speaker 3: terrorist supporting in the region.
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Speaker 19: The fact of the matter is that the Al Jazeera network,
28:23
Speaker 19: the lavishly funded and very professional Al Jazer network, has
28:27
Speaker 19: been fanning the flames of Islamist insurgency across the Middle
28:31
Speaker 19: East over the last two decades with pretty enus results.
28:37
Speaker 19: Frankly in many cases. That's to say, if we think
28:39
Speaker 19: of the loss of two authoritarian but pro Western regimes
28:45
Speaker 19: in the region in Genesia been Ali's regime in Genesia
28:48
Speaker 19: and then the Willbutuck regime in Egypt. This was to
28:51
Speaker 19: a considerable extent the result of the propaganda activities of
28:54
Speaker 19: al Jazeera, fanning the flames, spreading the message of the
28:58
Speaker 19: Islamist organization and preachers people like the late Yusuf Karadawi,
29:02
Speaker 19: one of the great one of the main Muslim Brotherhood
29:04
Speaker 19: preachers who made his home in Dha over the years.
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Speaker 1: So it's at a.
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Speaker 19: Very heinous effect, and much blood and treasure has been
29:11
Speaker 19: spent in reversing the results of those activities.
29:16
Speaker 1: In recent years.
29:17
Speaker 19: And I think up to and including, frankly, the recent
29:19
Speaker 19: coming to power of the Islamist Hayatari Rasham movement in Syria,
29:24
Speaker 19: which was proceeded used to call this Al Jabatan Nusra
29:27
Speaker 19: used to be part of al Kaeder and has been
29:28
Speaker 19: the beneficiary both of the support of the al Jazira
29:32
Speaker 19: network and indeed large amounts of dollars coming out of Kata.
29:36
Speaker 3: Let me just pick your brains quickly on the latest
29:38
Speaker 3: developments in Qatar. They're linked to a social media post
29:42
Speaker 3: by US President Donald Trump, who says that Hamas has
29:45
Speaker 3: moved their remedia reports Hamas has moved hostages above ground
29:49
Speaker 3: to use them as human shields against Israel's ground offensive.
29:52
Speaker 3: He says that he hopes the leaders of Hamas know
29:54
Speaker 3: what they're getting into If they do such a thing,
29:56
Speaker 3: this is a human atrocity the likes of which few
30:00
Speaker 3: some people have seen before. Don't let this happen. All
30:03
Speaker 3: bits are off. Release the hostages. Now, we keep hearing
30:05
Speaker 3: these ultimatums from Donald Trump. Has anything changed Well.
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Speaker 19: As you know, Chris, what's happening right now is that
30:13
Speaker 19: the IDEF Israel Defense Forces is gearing up for an
30:17
Speaker 19: operation of profound significance, namely its entry into Gaza City itself.
30:22
Speaker 19: And what Hamas is doing by this dreadful tactics of
30:25
Speaker 19: now using Israeli hostages not for the first time as
30:28
Speaker 19: human shields, is it's trying to deter Israel from making
30:31
Speaker 19: that move. There's a very little amount of time left,
30:34
Speaker 19: I think for a deal on the hostages. I hope
30:37
Speaker 19: profoundly as all I think all must that Hamas chooses,
30:41
Speaker 19: you know, to release the hostages prior to Israel's.
30:45
Speaker 1: Entry IDEAF entry into Gaza City.
30:46
Speaker 19: If they don't, then I'm afraid we have some pretty
30:49
Speaker 19: difficult days ahead.
30:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, socking, shocking situation. Thanks so much for your analysis, Jonathan,
30:54
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Jonathan Spy they're live from Jerusalem. Now
30:58
Speaker 3: we're going to go to a break and speaking of
31:00
Speaker 3: Donald Trump.
31:01
Speaker 2: After the break, we'll talk about how.
31:02
Speaker 3: He lashed out at the political left over the political
31:05
Speaker 3: violence in the US, especially of course, the assassination of
31:08
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirkhle. Speak with Kristen Tate in just a moment.
31:15
Speaker 3: Let's catch Sharpe as we always do on a Tuesday
31:17
Speaker 3: with Tim Blair from the Daily Telegraph. He joins us
31:19
Speaker 3: live from the Wimmera in western Victoria. Good to talk
31:22
Speaker 3: to you, Tim. You would have played close attention to
31:25
Speaker 3: the fear pawn we were getting from the government yesterday
31:29
Speaker 3: about climate change. Have you started digging your bunker to
31:32
Speaker 3: right out to the climate arm aged?
31:36
Speaker 20: Ah? My lord. I think every journalist in the country
31:39
Speaker 20: yesterday was the day of the invasion of the inboxes.
31:42
Speaker 20: Every climate group, every climate activist, every climate wanted everything
31:47
Speaker 20: to do with the climate. We would just swamp with emails.
31:49
Speaker 20: I've just got a few here. Greenpeace told me that
31:52
Speaker 20: everything we love is at stake, so that means it's
31:57
Speaker 20: not good news for Grandpeace. A group called Emergency Leaders
32:02
Speaker 20: for Climate Action got really upset. Apparently there are a
32:05
Speaker 20: bunch of fieries who haven't had much zoos since the
32:08
Speaker 20: big fires of the twenty nineteen twenty the Climate Council
32:11
Speaker 20: of Australia warned that dangerous hot weather would force farmers,
32:16
Speaker 20: miners and construction workers to down tools, which is the
32:19
Speaker 20: first time they ever ever worried about those groups not
32:22
Speaker 20: working anymore. Everything I've done is to shut them down.
32:25
Speaker 20: And my favorite is a new group, Chris, a new
32:27
Speaker 20: group called parents for Climate, which I think is associated
32:31
Speaker 20: with uncles for gravity and preschoolers for climate variations.
32:37
Speaker 2: Grandparents for air.
32:40
Speaker 20: Exactly. It was all happening yesterday. I'm loving every second
32:43
Speaker 20: of an.
32:43
Speaker 3: Obvious Well, of course, no issue is properly examined until
32:48
Speaker 3: we hear from Zali stegu After all, she was the
32:51
Speaker 3: one who liked to post in the wake of the
32:54
Speaker 3: assassination of Charlie Kirk. She liked a post that said
32:58
Speaker 3: sometimes violence is necessary.
33:00
Speaker 2: Is what she says about climate.
33:02
Speaker 21: Do you know what this report does not mention, not once,
33:05
Speaker 21: as it acknowledged the cause of this risk, which is
33:09
Speaker 21: continuing to burn coal, oil and gas. Last week, while
33:13
Speaker 21: sitting on this devastating report, the government finalized and approved
33:17
Speaker 21: the expansion of wood size Northwest Gas Shelf, a project
33:21
Speaker 21: that locks in a carbon bomb of emissions neither Australia
33:25
Speaker 21: nor the climate can afford.
33:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a carbon bomb.
33:30
Speaker 3: As she was wearing that till looked kind of green
33:32
Speaker 3: to me that there are more honest coloring there from
33:35
Speaker 3: the tills. Let's go to a teal hard left green colleague,
33:39
Speaker 3: Manique Ryan.
33:40
Speaker 22: If we don't cut carbon emissions by seventy percent or more,
33:44
Speaker 22: we are looking at inevitably warming of our country by two.
33:47
Speaker 13: Degrees or more.
33:49
Speaker 22: Effectively, what that means is more extreme weather events, fires, floods,
33:55
Speaker 22: droughts and storms. It means it will see more deaths
33:58
Speaker 22: related to humidity and streme hate and air pollution.
34:03
Speaker 3: This cracks me up, Tim because I mean, the government's
34:05
Speaker 3: trying to scare the but Jesus out of us over climate,
34:08
Speaker 3: but this Tills whole thing is to be even more
34:11
Speaker 3: onto climate.
34:12
Speaker 2: So they're trying to up the scare campaign and there's
34:15
Speaker 2: kind of no where to go.
34:17
Speaker 20: Absolutely, it's like, you know, dishonesty, you pulled upon you
34:20
Speaker 20: more dishonesty, and it's I love this hysteria about Australia's
34:25
Speaker 20: contribution to climate change is going to destroy the planet.
34:29
Speaker 20: This is the most unscientific unmathematical. It's the contrary to
34:34
Speaker 20: all known facts. Also for these people who are telling
34:37
Speaker 20: us all the time that we've got to accomplish net zero,
34:40
Speaker 20: let those guys accomplish net zero in their houses, let
34:44
Speaker 20: alone the nation, let alone the planet. Just those frames
34:47
Speaker 20: we saw of those two to your candidates, just look
34:49
Speaker 20: at everything in those frames that's resulted from oil. That's
34:53
Speaker 20: I mean, including the plastic in the glasses that Zali
34:57
Speaker 20: Stegl's wearing. If they get to net zero, then the
35:00
Speaker 20: rest of them will give it a go later. But like,
35:01
Speaker 20: let them go first.
35:02
Speaker 2: I'll go even softer on them, mate.
35:04
Speaker 3: I just challenged them to go camping for one weekend
35:07
Speaker 3: and be net zero.
35:09
Speaker 2: They wouldn't pass that test.
35:10
Speaker 3: Now, David Pearl noted earlier. I think it was either
35:13
Speaker 3: David Pearl or Dave Schama. It's a truism. It's a
35:15
Speaker 3: fact that the richer you are, the you Maora, you're
35:18
Speaker 3: into the climate of aangelism. But it's good to know
35:21
Speaker 3: that the government not everybody is completely convinced.
35:24
Speaker 2: Because Andrew Charlton is one of their millionaire labor MPs
35:28
Speaker 2: and well.
35:29
Speaker 3: He's talking to talk. But as Andrew Clonel exposed. He's
35:32
Speaker 3: not walking the walk.
35:33
Speaker 2: Have a look. Do you have an electric vehicle? Do
35:38
Speaker 2: you have batteries?
35:40
Speaker 23: I do not have an electric vehicle, but I know
35:43
Speaker 23: a lot of people are taking up electric vehicles, and
35:45
Speaker 23: I think that's a choice for many Australians.
35:48
Speaker 20: Do you have solar panels and batteries yourself?
35:50
Speaker 23: I don't. I don't have solar panels or batteries, but
35:55
Speaker 23: plenty of Australians do and that's a good thing.
35:59
Speaker 2: And he doesn't have to worry worry about his power beliver.
36:03
Speaker 20: That's the new some of my best friends. Again, I've
36:06
Speaker 20: got friends who own evs, not that there's anything wrong
36:10
Speaker 20: with that. They're all getting very, very associative. I'd just
36:12
Speaker 20: like to point out that while everyone's panicking about CO
36:14
Speaker 20: two levels, this shirt I'm wearing was white a few
36:18
Speaker 20: hours ago, but thanks to the abundance of CO two
36:20
Speaker 20: in the air, look at it now.
36:22
Speaker 2: It's a living wall shirt. Grut. Thanks for showing us.
36:25
Speaker 2: Tim Blair enjoyed.
36:26
Speaker 3: Hopefully he won't be grown over himself yet. Look, I
36:29
Speaker 3: even know people with EV's, so I'm.
36:31
Speaker 2: A saint Like Andrew Charlton.
36:33
Speaker 3: I know people with EV's and I'm still friends with them.
36:38
Speaker 2: We've got to take a break. No, we don't.
36:39
Speaker 3: Actually we're going to go to Kristen Tates, aren't we,
36:42
Speaker 3: Because I've been talking to her about what's happening in
36:44
Speaker 3: the US. She I want to first set you up though,
36:48
Speaker 3: with the latest from from the US about, of course,
36:51
Speaker 3: this man who's accused of assassinating.
36:53
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk last week.
36:55
Speaker 3: He allegedly confessed to the crime just before turning himself in.
36:59
Speaker 2: Here's the latest from CNN.
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Speaker 15: Chilling new messages revealed by The Washington Post about the
37:05
Speaker 15: suspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination, twenty two year old
37:08
Speaker 15: Tyler Robinson reportedly writing quote, Hey guys, I have bad
37:12
Speaker 15: news for you all, going on to say, quote it
37:15
Speaker 15: was me at UVU yesterday. I'm sorry for.
37:18
Speaker 2: All of this.
37:19
Speaker 15: The Washington Post reporting the message appeared to be a
37:21
Speaker 15: confession to friends in the social and gaming app called
37:25
Speaker 15: Discord and sent Thursday night, just hours before Robinson's arrest.
37:30
Speaker 15: Another area of interest and helped to authority so far,
37:33
Speaker 15: has been Robinson's roommate.
37:35
Speaker 24: The roommate was a romantic partner a male transitioning to female.
37:40
Speaker 24: This partner has been incredibly cooperative, had no idea that
37:44
Speaker 24: this was happening, and is working with investigators right now.
37:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, there've been all sorts of attempts to muddy the waters,
37:51
Speaker 3: but as I put it to Christian, it's clear the
37:54
Speaker 3: alleged assassin became a radical member of the Trump hiding left.
38:00
Speaker 25: Well, if you ask the mainstream media here, Chris, they
38:02
Speaker 25: will still tell you that this shooter was a right
38:06
Speaker 25: wing Trump supporter and Charlie Kirk simply wasn't conservative enough
38:11
Speaker 25: for him, and that's.
38:12
Speaker 26: Why he took out Charlie.
38:13
Speaker 25: It's ridiculous, but yes, as her learning, this person was
38:18
Speaker 25: dating a man who was in the process of transitioning
38:21
Speaker 25: to a woman very much insconced in these online dark
38:25
Speaker 25: web chat groups where all kinds of dark things go on.
38:30
Speaker 26: Any normal person who reads.
38:32
Speaker 25: The facts that we know at this point about this
38:34
Speaker 25: suspect would not believe that this person is a right winger.
38:38
Speaker 26: It's just absurd. And now we're also having.
38:41
Speaker 25: Authorities coming out and saying that perhaps this had been
38:45
Speaker 25: planned ahead of time, by several weeks in fact, and
38:48
Speaker 25: that there could have been many people involved in this.
38:50
Speaker 25: There were chat rooms where people were referencing September tenth
38:54
Speaker 25: saying something big was going to happen.
38:57
Speaker 26: And the facts will come out.
38:58
Speaker 25: But this was certainly someone who appears to have been
39:01
Speaker 25: a leftist, and.
39:02
Speaker 3: The President himself has had something to say about the
39:05
Speaker 3: Pattison direction of this shocking killing.
39:08
Speaker 2: Have a look at Donald Trump.
39:10
Speaker 15: The radical left goes is tremendous violence, and they seem
39:12
Speaker 15: to do it in a bigger way.
39:14
Speaker 19: But the radical left really is cause a lot of
39:17
Speaker 19: problems to this country.
39:18
Speaker 2: I really think they hate our country.
39:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a Pattison why of describing this, Kristin.
39:25
Speaker 2: But the facts support the president.
39:29
Speaker 25: Yeah, And something really astonishing has happened here in the
39:32
Speaker 25: last week, Chris. I have a lot of family members
39:34
Speaker 25: and friends who are not particularly political. These are just
39:37
Speaker 25: people with normal jobs who have you know, chat about
39:40
Speaker 25: sports teams at the water cooler on breaks that work
39:42
Speaker 25: with their friends. These kinds of people who are not
39:45
Speaker 25: particularly political have become radicalized in the last week because
39:50
Speaker 25: of what they.
39:51
Speaker 26: Saw in that video. You know, it's just the.
39:55
Speaker 25: Left has exposed itself where it's dark ideology here, and
39:59
Speaker 25: the more the media lies about it, the more they
40:01
Speaker 25: are radicalizing normal Americans.
40:03
Speaker 26: To the right. They are making conservatives by the minute.
40:07
Speaker 25: You know, for some people it was the BLM riots
40:10
Speaker 25: that burned down the country that made them conservative. For
40:12
Speaker 25: some that was seeing our president Donald Trump nearly get assassinated.
40:16
Speaker 25: But for many people, it was this video of Charlie
40:20
Speaker 25: Kirk being shot in the neck mid sentence that made
40:24
Speaker 25: them turn on the left for good and say I
40:25
Speaker 25: will never vote for a Democrat again. It's been a
40:29
Speaker 25: truly astonishing week in this country.
40:32
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the Vice President, who was also very close to
40:35
Speaker 3: Charlie Cook, has actually guest hosted his podcast.
40:40
Speaker 2: He's a little bit of what Jedi Evans had decide.
40:43
Speaker 27: Every single person into this building, we owe something to Charlie.
40:48
Speaker 27: He was a joyful warrior for our country. He loved America.
40:52
Speaker 27: He devoted himself tirelessly to making our country a better place.
40:56
Speaker 2: He was a critical part.
40:58
Speaker 27: Of getting Donald trumped as president, getting me elected as
41:01
Speaker 27: vice president.
41:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, very emotional and obviously very political activities. The point
41:09
Speaker 3: here is Kristin surely that with the organization that Charlie
41:13
Speaker 3: Kirk found at the turning point, and his widow's vowed
41:16
Speaker 3: to continue that work on his voice posthumously, is going
41:20
Speaker 3: to grow louder.
41:23
Speaker 26: Over the last week.
41:25
Speaker 25: I mean, his voice was already pretty influential, especially among
41:28
Speaker 25: young people who are very online, but his message has
41:31
Speaker 25: gotten out to a much broader set of Americans.
41:34
Speaker 26: As I was mentioning, people who are not.
41:36
Speaker 25: Particularly political are now listening to all Charlie kirk speeches.
41:40
Speaker 25: They are now reading about him and what he stood for.
41:43
Speaker 26: And his widow.
41:44
Speaker 25: We saw such strength in her as she delivered remarks
41:48
Speaker 25: after her husband's shocking death, and I pray that she
41:52
Speaker 25: will lead the organization forward so that it can be
41:55
Speaker 25: stronger than it ever was and to continue on Charlie's
41:58
Speaker 25: mission and other issues.
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Speaker 3: After the success of the federal intervention on Laura and
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Speaker 3: Order in Washington, d C. The early success and talk
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Speaker 3: about Chicago, President Trump is sending federal resources to Memphis, Tennessee.
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Speaker 2: Have a look in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 3: Memphis at the highest violent crime rate, the highest property
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Speaker 3: crime rate, and the third highest.
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Speaker 1: Murder rate of any city.
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Speaker 26: I'm going to be doing Chicago probably next.
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Speaker 3: There's much more to unfold here. Let's hope it helps
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Speaker 3: these cities.
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Speaker 25: Kristin, Yeah, I've got some close friends out in Memphis.
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Speaker 25: It is a very dangerous place, but so are so
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Speaker 25: many American cities. I moved to Massachusetts from Houston. Houston,
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Speaker 25: every day it seemed like you'd wake up and read
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Speaker 25: the Houston Chronicle, the local paper, and read about some
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Speaker 25: terrible crime that would happen to these innocent people who
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Speaker 25: just happened to be at the wrong place at the
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Speaker 25: wrong time.
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Speaker 26: So I hope the President keeps doing this. Just go
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Speaker 26: on down the list. Nearly every large American city needs help.
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Speaker 26: The I is just out of control because of careless
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Speaker 26: Democrat leadership.
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Speaker 25: So I love to see this and it seems like
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Speaker 25: it's working out in the cities where Trump has interviewed
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Speaker 25: so far.
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Speaker 2: Great to talk again, kristin catching next week.
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Speaker 26: Thank you, Chris, you too.
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Speaker 3: Panel coming up next with Steven Senate Tiempo and Susi
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Speaker 3: o brian. I'm asking him what they think about this
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Speaker 3: latest abomination from the Eurovision contest. Let's go to our
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Speaker 3: panel now with Susi O'Brien and joins us from Melbourne.
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Speaker 3: She's the News Corp National Education Editor and live from
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Speaker 3: the nation's capital is Stephen Senate Tiempo. Breakfast host at
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Speaker 3: two Double C. Thanks both both for joining us. Your
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Speaker 3: premier has gone a w old Susi's she's in China already.
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Speaker 3: You would have thought, after Dan Andrews's trip and now
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Speaker 3: Benezi spending almost a week there, that she might want
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Speaker 3: to go to Regional Victoria instead. But there she is,
43:54
Speaker 3: how telling to the communist dictatorship.
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Speaker 28: Well, I don't think anyone really wants her in Regional Victoria.
44:01
Speaker 28: I'm not sure I wish that on my worst enemy.
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Speaker 28: But you know, she's out there signing a whole lot
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Speaker 28: of deals, and part of that is to do with
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Speaker 28: getting more Chinese students in Victoria. Too bad that we've
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Speaker 28: got the most unaffordable housing in the nation, however, and
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Speaker 28: she's looking to shore up some investment for some of
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Speaker 28: our major infrastructure plans.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
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Speaker 26: Can't Adams the suburban rall.
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Speaker 28: They can't even get Australian backers for Yes, nice to
44:31
Speaker 28: have a break from her for a few days. That
44:32
Speaker 28: they're welcome to have her. We need the break.
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Speaker 3: Let me give you the strong tip. These are not deals.
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Speaker 3: These are essentially press releases. You'd drum up some sort
44:41
Speaker 3: of memorandum of understanding, you both signed them.
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Speaker 2: You pretend they're a deal.
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Speaker 3: They're not worth the paper they're written on. The Let
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Speaker 3: me just show you a little bit of what she's
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Speaker 3: had to say from China.
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Speaker 29: Victoria's goal is to become the first port of call
44:55
Speaker 29: for Chinese businesses to invest and innovate, and the destination
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Speaker 29: of choice for Chinese people to visit and to study.
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Speaker 29: That's a win for jobs, it's a win for the stability,
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Speaker 29: as we know in an increasingly uncertain world, and that
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Speaker 29: benefits everyone in our state.
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Speaker 3: All sweetness and lights, Steve, and don't forget of course,
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Speaker 3: Daniel Andrews was signing up to China's Belton Road deal.
45:18
Speaker 3: The federal government had to come in and cut him
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Speaker 3: off to stop him doing that.
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Speaker 2: She's not holding back at all. She's going to for
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Speaker 2: Daniel Andrews.
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Speaker 30: I think it's hilarious that left wing premier says I
45:29
Speaker 30: will not be deterred by left wing federal government rules
45:32
Speaker 30: when it comes to bringing in more Chinese students. Look
45:34
Speaker 30: for reality. There's two points here. I mean, you know,
45:37
Speaker 30: this just goes to show you that the Victorian government
45:40
Speaker 30: has a wholly owned subsidiary of the Chinese Communist Party
45:42
Speaker 30: these days. But education in Australia has become a Ponzi scheme.
45:45
Speaker 30: Now it's not about delivering educational outcomes from Australians. It's
45:49
Speaker 30: about selling degrees overseas. Now it's all well and good
45:52
Speaker 30: to say this is good for jobs, and this is
45:53
Speaker 30: good for this and good for that. It's bad for housing,
45:55
Speaker 30: it's bad for education, it's bad for Australians, and it's
45:58
Speaker 30: bad for our alliances with our major allies that we've
46:01
Speaker 30: had for years and years and years. Because well, now
46:03
Speaker 30: that the Left is taken over, we're trying to cozy
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Speaker 30: up a China.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's stay in Victoria, because one of the big
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Speaker 3: problems there, of course is the crime crisis. SUSI and
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Speaker 3: we've talked about these rubbish bins where you dump your machetes.
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Speaker 3: It's a thirteen million dollar scheme. They've announced that thirteen
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Speaker 3: hundred machetes have been dumped so so far. That means
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Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars has been spent per machete. Maybe they'll
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Speaker 3: double that and they should have had a buyback of machetes.
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Speaker 2: It would have been cheaper.
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Speaker 28: This is just the most absurd thing ever.
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Speaker 26: There are these bins. It sort of looks like a.
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Speaker 28: Big library bin that you put your books in when
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Speaker 28: they're late. And the Opposition have come out and said
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Speaker 28: the majority of people who are putting these machetes ten
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Speaker 28: thousand dollars upop it's cost so far are farmers and
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Speaker 28: gardeners who don't want to be caught with one in
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Speaker 28: the backshd And what are they doing to encourage young
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Speaker 28: people who are at risk, who are consorting with the
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Speaker 28: wrong people, with a lot of other young people in
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Speaker 28: gangs and so on, to actually come to a police
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Speaker 28: station and drop their machete off. I mean, the whole
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Speaker 28: thing is absurd. Thirteen million dollars for thirteen hundred machetes,
47:18
Speaker 28: and there's no proof that they came from the people
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Speaker 28: we're trying.
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Speaker 2: To take them off exactly. They're least likely to come
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Speaker 2: from those people.
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Speaker 3: And Stephen, this comes as their revelations that the government
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Speaker 3: there is cutting back spending on other youth crime initiatives,
47:31
Speaker 3: so they're spending.
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Speaker 2: It all on machetes.
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Speaker 30: It's ridiculous. But I question they said this, thirteen hundred
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Speaker 30: weapons have been delivered. Are they machetes or are people
47:41
Speaker 30: just srowing kitchen knives in there? That's the question. I'd
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Speaker 30: like to ask, but I mean, it's just extraordinary that
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Speaker 30: you know that this machete crime wave is being driven
47:48
Speaker 30: by youth crime. So well, look now that we've just
47:51
Speaker 30: put these boxes outside the police stations, we'll just cut
47:53
Speaker 30: all the funding for youth crime programs, which is what
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Speaker 30: they really need to address. But all the while a
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Speaker 30: three month amnesty that says, look, go out and given
48:02
Speaker 30: as much crime as you want the next three months.
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Speaker 30: We'll sort it out after that.
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Speaker 2: Extraordinary.
48:06
Speaker 3: I've got to get your thoughts on this Eurovision thing.
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Speaker 3: It would be funny if it wasn't so sickening. You know,
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Speaker 3: the whole invasion of Israel started effectively with the Nova
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Speaker 3: Music Festival, young people celebrating music, and this clown from
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Speaker 3: Spain likens what's going on in Gaza as to the
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Speaker 3: Russian invasion of Ukraine, and they're going to boycott. They're
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Speaker 3: trying to bully Israel or the organizers to keep Israel
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Speaker 3: out of this competition.
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Speaker 2: Which I think is just deplorable. SUSI.
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Speaker 28: Look, I'm pretty sure the Israeli government are watching the
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Speaker 28: Spanish entrance for Eurovision just to see how they should
48:45
Speaker 28: progress in terms of their their incursion. I mean, look,
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Speaker 28: this is just absolutely ridiculous, talk about turning something that
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Speaker 28: is apolitical into something that is highly political. I mean,
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Speaker 28: how can they decide that the people Spain shouldn't be
49:02
Speaker 28: involved in something that is essentially a whole lot of
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Speaker 28: fun on this dubious political basis.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why it's seconding, Stephen, isn't it because
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Speaker 3: it demonizes Israel and Jews, because it nurtures hatred.
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Speaker 30: Look, we've got to be honest here. I mean, I
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Speaker 30: love Eurovision. It's the greatest comedy festival in the world.
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Speaker 30: Every year I get up and watch it most mornings,
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Speaker 30: and nobody actually wants to win it. They want to
49:27
Speaker 30: come second. Because if you've got to win, you've got
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Speaker 30: a host it the following year. And I question why
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Speaker 30: Australia and Israel are in Eurovision anyway, because they're not
49:34
Speaker 30: really in Europe. But having said that, I mean, this
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Speaker 30: is just you know, ridiculous from Spain. Let's, you know,
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Speaker 30: boycott if Israel. Look, you know what, iope Israel wins.
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Speaker 22: It this year.
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Speaker 2: I certainly do.
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Speaker 3: And as I said, then they can host the thing
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Speaker 3: at an outdoor stadium at the Nova Music Festival. And
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Speaker 3: force these clowns to confront reality. Thanks so much for
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Speaker 3: joining us, Stephen and Susi.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: Susi, I should mention if you get onto the Newsport
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Speaker 3: Newsicalt paper's a fantastic feature there on the top one
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Speaker 3: hundred schools in the country. I think a broken down
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Speaker 3: state by state as well. If you want to check
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Speaker 3: out that story and those rankings. We're all out of time.
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Speaker 2: Here have another busy show for you tomorrow night. Here's
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Speaker 2: Peter Kredlin.