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Episode 1552 - How to F*ck · Drinkin‘ Bros Podcast

• 0:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to drinking froes presented by OmahaStakes.com Sit back relax and have a fucking treat, treat, treat.
• 0:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: The string goes, Ross is dead, dead set against being here today.
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's an Alabama with his child, meeting with circle K people.
• 0:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Our booze went into circle K's this weekend, and then he's going to go take our buddy to the Atlanta Falcons football game, which is basically like watching children play football.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's not here to defend himself, so I'm going to...
• 0:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: say a lot of weird shit today.
• 0:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: We have a guest, Sterling Cooper, I'll introduce you in a moment, but before we get there,
• 0:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: These fry, we don't know when this is gonna go out recording this on Friday, but this is a stack show, right?
• 1:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: It will be on a Friday?
• 1:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: It'll be on a Friday at the same point.
• 1:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: These Friday shows can get a little bit weird.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: We kind of range from social issues to political issues to business stuff, right?
• 1:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: So maybe we'll touch on a little bit of all that.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: But first, let's talk about you, Sterling Cooper, not Sterling Cooper from the TV show.
• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: No.
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's spelled differently, your STI, and you're from Australia, which is a criminal colony set up by the British.
• 1:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Correct.
• 1:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Back in the day, are you yourself a criminal?
• 1:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: I am descended from a criminal, yes, but he, well, we probably all are to some degree, right?
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, the funny thing is the guy I'm descended from, he came out as like a soldier, escorting a convict ship, and then when he was in the colony, he stole a watch and ended up in the, in, like, that's how it goes, yeah.
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: I guess, technically speaking with every, uh,
• 1:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Every generation back, you double your chances of being related to a criminal.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Sure, technically.
• 1:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Or no, it's exponential.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: So we double them for X and so on.
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't, my family are all criminals now, I think.
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: So I'm trying to stay out of jail as long as I can.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, and it's more difficult in Australia than it is here, I think.
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can't say words over there.
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: No, you can't say words.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: You can't hold your arm at a 45 degree angle.
• 2:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: That go out a little bit like the last year.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: We've got some interesting, interesting news.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: And what regard?
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, what if I'm doing the Roman...
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's completely, you will go to jail in Australia.
• 2:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: But is it exactly 45, and who comes and measures you?
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it comes out of the woodwork.
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's like a big human size protractor, and some cop shows up, he's like, ah, jail.
• 2:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
• 2:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: You could have been like hailing a taxi down in your imprisonment.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's retarded nonsense.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: My buddy Isaac Butterfield is actually going to be here next week to do a show on if you know him or not.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm from Lee with the night.
• 2:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think he's a fucking mess.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is the strike committee.
• 2:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: He had to go to court.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Last year for calling somebody a fucking tranny or retard or something.
• 2:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember what it was.
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it sounds a bit right people don't like you know People don't like the truth.
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you guys have been from somebody who started as a prison colony becoming Bigger and bigger Pussies for the last 30 years ever since that gun band started
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, tell me about it.
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's there's a lot of 96, right?
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was when I was a kid.
• 3:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot of really interesting things about that.
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's a there's a YouTube channel called the Wasp files and basically like you know how everyone was talking about the whole JFK thing over the last few years, how like the over the last 60 years.
• 3:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, like, just more and more so lately.
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's a there's a lot there's we have that, but with the pulled out the massacre industry.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Really.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like it was like you think it was some kind of false flag or something?
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: The dude who, like, did it is, like, a literally, a clinical retard, like he couldn't tie his shoes like this, like, and he, and it was apparently one of the most accurate to mass shootings ever, like, he didn't miss.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like, there was a, there's a lot of, yeah, a fuckery with, that also.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: So, yeah, I had, I had a military buddy of mine, like,
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: break this down for me and I was like damn we'll be able to believe right of me.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think it was a conspiracy.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, this is this concept and it has infected the American right now as to it's not just the left of
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: I guess collective punishment is Marxism, that's nonsense.
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't punish a group for the actions of the individual.
• 4:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Groups don't have rights, groups don't have responsibilities.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: So they can't have consequences, doesn't make any goddamn sense.
• 4:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Which, you know, you would think that a country that was kind of founded on getting kicked the fuck out of somewhere would be more sensitive to that, to be honest.
• 4:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: But it seems like Australia has been particularly, what's the good word for them.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Anytime there's any kind of globalist movement, Australia seems to fall right into it immediately.
• 4:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what the weird thing is that Australians aren't, that Australia is actually really hard to piss off.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like we're so easy going and we're so laid back.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: that the attitude is kind of like, ah, it'll be a right mate, don't worry about it.
• 5:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: But if you say that enough times, you end up in the situation we're in right now.
• 5:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that Lazi fair shit doesn't work when you're under attack, but the average, like I know, we have a lot of Australian fans, and I have a bunch of buddies over there too.
• 5:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the dudes are pretty, well, I guess it depends on what part of the country you're from, but the dudes are mostly hard bastards.
• 5:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're nice, laws of fair guys, but they're not like soft.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's not like the Pacific Northwest in America where everybody's got really tight jeans on.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you don't, if you look down on me, like he's probably at least held one.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: at some point.
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: You may not have sucked it, but he definitely held on to it for a little while.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's not the case with Australian people, but still politically speaking, maybe it is that Lazi pair attitude.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: How frequent is it for a pleb to get involved in politics there?
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: We have probably the most politically apophetic.
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: But isn't it fucking you, like they shut down all the bars on the voting day.
• 6:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody, don't you have like a 97% voting percentage because it's like you have to.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you get fined if you don't.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: So what the fuck?
• 6:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: So what people do instead is they basically, they do this thing called a donkey vote where they deliberately screw up the ballot and fill that wrong, so doesn't count.
• 6:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: Just to sort of, that's kind of the silent way of protesting against either political party.
• 6:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what being even better way of protesting is to vote one of the donkey voters into office, or a bunch of them and then let them fuck shit up for a little while.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, they actually, not long ago, there was this guy who got elected in, I think he was in the Victorian Senate, and he got elected under the V8 party,
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: which is exactly what you think it is.
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like the drink?
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: The engine.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, V8, okay.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Not like tomato drink.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: No, not that.
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, they tried to ally V8.
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: They were trying to, it was something to do with, like, outlawing, like, emissions and then like that.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: And he was just completely, like, bogan redneck and he got elected just because of the way our electoral system works at preferential voting.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: And he actually held, like, a lot of power in the Senate because it was like a tied parliament.
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: And so they basically had to go to this bogan and be like,
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like we want to pass this bill what do you want and he pretty much held the major political parties ransom for like a whole seven years
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I like that.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just some dude named Greg that's that nobody can control.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like when what was that movie Bob?
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're John Goodman became the king of something King Ralph King Ralph of England.
• 7:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's what we need we need some fucking hillbilly So I do get like fist fights kangaroos isn't charge of Australia just given a couple years I trust that guy.
• 7:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, because he doesn't have an agenda like he's not beholden anyone He's not taking bribe from people, you know, he doesn't have he doesn't have you know an ulterior motive
• 7:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: So if you had to put a pen in it, the reason that Australia is kind of more receptive to that pussy globalist shit is just the laws they fair out of doing.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: Very much so.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's sad.
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well our politicians are so boring, I think it's might be the strategy.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: Our politics and our politicians are so boring that no one pays attention to.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like American politics is like a spectator's fault.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, you can't used to be like that, too.
• 8:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: The House of Commons, they used to fuck people up.
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if they're still doing that, Bob.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, they still are, but I used to watch that on CNN as a kid.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or see, see, see, span as a kid.
• 8:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, it was all, House of Commons was the best.
• 8:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they'd go to Congress and you'd just go to sleep.
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, House of Commons rules.
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, now, I mean, Trump's brought it back.
• 8:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's a wild card, I guess.
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is there an Australian Donald Trump?
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, there's like a super rich wing nut over there who could afford to run in politics and fuck shit up.
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, he was talking about rebuilding the Titanic at one point as well.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's not great because that didn't, that wasn't.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: That didn't work out.
• 8:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: People look at the first time, so I don't know what to do at the second time.
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: It'd be like somebody running for German chancellor's like, we're going to bring the Hindenburg back.
• 9:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's dumb.
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: So anyways, Australia is weird.
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Tell people what you do now.
• 9:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, now I'm a retired porn star who now helps dudes and women improve their sex life.
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: And what regard would even improve their sex life if they could meet a lot of things?
• 9:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: So if the dudes got any problem like boner issues, premature ejaculation, these kind of things, I can teach him how to fix them, one is that.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: And if he's not dickin' his misses down correctly, I can...
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: given if you born is going to be a few tips and tricks some tactics and we can fix that as well.
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Sure, yeah.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's a there's a price to pay for an undick down woman very much.
• 9:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: People people people seem to think that there's you can either fuck a trashy woman maybe.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: and or make love to a woman that you're in love with, but that's not reality.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's actually pretty fucking stupid.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I don't think our fans definitely don't believe that, but women like to be physically dominated.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we sexualize those things.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Whether it was intrinsically sexual at the beginning or not, we sexualize those things because it's part of the polarity of men and women.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: So women obviously sexualize that and they take that as not just sexual gratification, but they take it as a sign that I am
• 10:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well taken care of and I don't have to worry about bears and shit like yeah, yeah if women were getting fucked right for example There would be no debate about whether men or bears are safer to run into in the woods.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: No, we would be no debate about what a man in a woman is Like well, I think I think the real pandemic is that women are not fuck-probably Like tell like if you if you had a judge who was a woman You are praying if you're going to call it and your judge woman you are praying that it has been
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: kicked it down probably.
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I just even at the grocery store, you know what I mean?
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm hoping.
• 11:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just for the better attitude, I guess.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: So if you had the, I guess, if you had to define, if you had to, if you had to write a problem statement, I guess, that you're trying to solve what would that problem statement be.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot of dudes who think that women in eight leagues sort of sugar and spicy and all things nice, that there's no like pivoted, dirty, nasty sight to them.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, well, if you believe that, I recommend just one time ask your girl to see her best friends group chat.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh boy.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: And read just like maybe scroll like three or four pages of it and see what you see in there.
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know if you're gonna wanna see it to be honest.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Cause it's probably way more fucked up than the stuff.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: When men describe a sexual encounter with a woman, it's like, yeah, a fucked or dude, when women describe it, it's like gross detail, it's nasty shit.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: Lots of, well, adjectives.
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's why you can write fucking smut for these bras.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: they in the worst it gets us like oh yeah opened up with some dude getting cannibalized on what are you fucking talking about i don't want to hear that shit well that's like forget your misses is a group chat like look at the erotic novel yeah mom was reading when she was like given a birthday yeah was old school mills and bonus stuff like that that would make the average man bler yeah there's a lot of that puritan nonsense uh... where and you hear even even um...
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's phrases that try to adjust for it, I guess, which is like you wanna lady in the streets, but a whore in the sheets, I believe it's how it goes, that right?
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Whore in the sheets?
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Freak in the sheets.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Freak in the sheets.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't like the way you said that, Bob.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Freak in the sheets.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: The way even the way you cocked your head, right?
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's actually freaking the bed, but.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: not lady in the streets freaking the sheets right that doesn't rhyme right shut the fuck up that's a yeah yeah yeah but there's that phrase implies that yeah we want her to be lady like but also we want to get wild in the bedroom but somehow that is in how dudes treat their women and I think it's also you
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's a long, for a dude, it's like, I see thing and I want thing.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: For a woman, it's more like a little bit of pressure builds up throughout the day, and then she's ready to do whatever the fuck, right?
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like a volume knob, right?
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think dudes handle that particular strategy very poorly, because we handle it from our perspective.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like,
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you did that in any other way, if you tried, yeah, if there's any other thing you were trying to do strategically speaking, where you just like, well, here's the outcome I want.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't give a fuck what this machine's designed to do.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's not smart.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's not a smart way to handle your business.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I want this thing to print.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, this is a computer, it's not a printer.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's not gonna do that.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: No matter how much I want it to happen.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we tend to approach things from an outcome
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: or a results base, right, which is not really the way you can approach a woman.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think another problem guys run into is when a guy actually falls in love with the woman, he actually cares about it and he actually likes it.
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: It becomes harder to fuck her, like he, because he actually likes her and maybe he in he actually respects her, the sex is no longer that nasty, freaky, passionate dominant sex that he might give some broad down at the bar, you know?
• 14:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: She gets made love to.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: because he actually likes her.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: And ironically, she doesn't like that.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: Ironically, she would much rather be treated like the slight he's picked up down at the bottom.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, that's a hard lesson for people to learn, I think, because they maybe they see you, there's a disrespect for or something, I don't know.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: But it's not at all like, treat your woman like this sexual creature she is and spit in her fucking mouth.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, put your kids down to bed and then fucking bring into the bedroom and spit in her mouth.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a good way to go about your business.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Those two things may on the service level seem in Congress, whether or not, to say that this,
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: a number of different people throughout our day.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a different person to work than I am at home.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Not wholly, right?
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: My values are always the same.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: But the kind of shit that I expect to happen is different.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: If I go to a college football game, maybe I'm drinking and screaming and shit, especially if I'm gambling, I'm probably screaming because I suck at gambling on college football, but if I go to, I was at a funeral the other day.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a completely different type of person.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Context seems to matter there.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and the context of you being like two people alone in the privacy of your own bedroom the context is she wants to be treated sexually She wants to be your sex object.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's like women a lot of a lot of women's sexual ego is tied into the fact that they can like turn a guy on and it arouse him like they are they intimately
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: in eightly like being the object of a man's loss, you know.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: So the same as we were otherwise as kind of is like actually in an of itself actually disrespect.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's like a treating a man with respect or like he's a tough guy or something is kind of the same.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, man, what do we respect it?
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: Wouldn't want to be?
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that makes sense, but dudes aren't doing I mean we've got a lot of issues with dudes Whether it's that I don't know where it comes from the Madonna horror complex Which is I learned from this one she's she teased to be stuff Where it's like you can't be a blend of those two things right so all right cool why I was
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was in war, and I'm not the same dude in the gunfight that I am just walking around.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: If I was, and I wouldn't spend too much time walking around, I would be walking around a six-by-eighth cell, if that were the case, or dead, right?
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: But then there's just a degradation of masculinity and culture.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: Some of it intentional, some of it's been environmental and circumstantial, like food and shit like that.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: You could say maybe some of that was
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: intentional.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it matters if it was a conspiracy or not.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: The fact is you can identify and treat it So it doesn't matter who's trying to do it like I can be resilient just through my own effort in that regard So nobody can fuck with me there So I'll spend too much time
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're in about all the conspiracy bullshit there, but, you know, these are, I think there's a lot of issues that lend themselves this, this lonely man syndrome that's going on in the west right now and the declining birth rates that are result of that.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, you got lonely man syndrome because man on allowed to have male only spices anymore.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: Every single male only, traditional male only spice has been
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: coerced or infiltrated by women like you don't have a basic example of your boy scout so you have to have women in the boy scout now because it's called the scout now actually right exactly you kind of have like jett like male only clubs, male only sporting events, male only sporting venues these sort of things are deemed somehow sexist or derogatory for guys wanting to just spend time with only guys talking like guys
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: Because the moment you put you inject a woman into a space like that, the dynamic always completely changes, like the guys, there's always some guy in that room who's trying to get her attention, who's trying to fuck her, all the other guys are sort of walking on eggshells, trying not to offend her and upset her, but you change that for like a locker room where it's only blocks, and the conversation is very different, the dynamic is very different, and I think that is a massive contributor to this loneliness epidemic, because like where can a guy go,
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: to be around just other like-minded men express himself and speak for you, you know, even though we do have free speech in America, your speech is still police, when you're not able, you know, around people who you can truly speak your mind around.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: Someone's going to try and judge you for what you're saying and what you believe.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, I guess the solution to that is a not give a fuck completely, but that's a lot harder for the average person to do.
• 19:13
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• 19:18
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• 19:23
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• 19:24
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• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: But I think the average guy probably doesn't understand that.
• 19:27
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• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, I mean, who cares?
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, it's, I think, um, we have this really bad habit.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know how long it's been going on.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of hard to track, but at least since the 1960s, where we try to solve the problem as far downstream as possible, instead of solving upstream problems.
• 19:57
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• 20:01
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• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: This nihilism amongst young men, especially, is something that people in America are kind of waking up to, but it's something that's been going on for a long time, and I've seen it in a lot of different places.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's gang culture, terrorism with young men.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: And now the version that we see is two-fold here in the U.S., well, it's three-fold, it's gang culture.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: It is the lonely man thing, and it is also all of the mass shooting bullshit.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: These are all the same archetype to me.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: These are people who have been Told that they have no place in society That not only that, but the societies actively against them in some way, right?
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it started with the gang stuff back in the day.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, well, you're a fucking black or brown America's white, which has never really been true.
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• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: But no, it's always been like that, right?
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's always been some exclusionary thing or another, but we were told, every new generation's told to at least to some degree that your group, unless you're part of the majority of your group, is just not, there's nothing here for you, right?
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: So what happens during those times of nihilism is we create parallel economies like the La Cosa notion like the Italian mafia, all the mobs, all the mafia groups, then the gangs that came later after them.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is the same thing that happens with the terrorists in a Middle Eastern country, or the mass shooter here.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: The terrorist in a Middle Eastern country gives themselves over to a violent ideology.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: The mass shooter here goes inward.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's just different, right?
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: They go inward.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the only real difference is the currency that they're trying to get.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: The gangs are trying to get money.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: The terrorists is trying to get 72 fucking virgins or whatever stupid shit they believe.
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the intel fucking mass shooter person is trying to get some kind of recognition or revenge or something like that, right?
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: They want to matter.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, is that what you think it is?
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: To me, that's the one that's kind of the most interesting that's hard.
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I think it's the hardest to diagnose.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: Is it attention?
• 22:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: Is it, like you said,
• 22:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a mixture of all those things, right?
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like if you, this is true, sexually as well, but whatever you don't get emotionally as a child, you try to crave as sexually as an adult, right?
• 22:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: So if you don't get attention, if you're a girl and you don't get attention from dad, you're gonna crave due to try to control you when you're older.
• 22:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's a fact, right?
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: We know that.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's a million studies to show that.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Same thing in reverse, right?
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like if you have abuse in the childhood, you have a very, you're, what do you call it?
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Your attachment is going to be very flimsy to people.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right, cause you can't trust anybody ever, right?
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: That person's going to abuse me eventually, so if I don't get too close, blah, blah, blah.
• 22:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's, it's,
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: It depends on what the person got or maybe more importantly didn't get when they were younger.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: So for this is the K, there's some good examples, it's actually.
• 23:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: So for inner city turmoil, these people that have in America at least, who have, and a lot of ways opted out of organized society, built parallel economies or whatever the
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: When we've gone in and tried to do the downstream solution to that, which is, well, there's a housing crisis.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to build a bunch of public housing.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, cool.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: You give it to them.
• 23:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: The problem still exists.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: They don't feel like they're part of the system, right?
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: So this building is part of the system and they fucking trash it.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right?
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: We build hospitals and schools in areas near terrorist groups and they fucking trash them.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: And these mass shooter kids almost exclusively are middle and upper middle class kids.
• 23:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're not poor kids doing that shit, right?
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: They are given everything by their parents, except for the things that they actually need, which is like a tension and teaching them how to be a fucking man, right?
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: And they go out and seek that thing.
• 24:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: This time, violently, instead of sexually, but I think those two things are pretty similar in my opinion.
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think maybe they're missing, or they weren't taught by the father of this idea of like emotional control.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: Because if you're like, I can't think of a more like emotional thing than to walk into a school and shoot up people because you're feeling like a certain way.
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's an outward expression of their inability to actually control and regulate their own emotions.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: And mod, yeah, modulate for sure, it's so a man responds in a boy reacts, right?
• 24:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then even in your interpersonal relationships, a man will lead while a boy will attempt to control.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Those are not the same thing.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Trying to control somebody else's behavior at the end of his string is not the same as leading by example and Exhibit like that doesn't mean you have to accept bad behavior It means bad behavior happens and you address it and if they don't correct it then you fucking tell them to fuck off Right, so you you walk away.
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, either way either way.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can't think of like treating people
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: like children.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: Even when they're going through childhood to some degree, like you have, there's, there's a, I'm sure some slide in scale, but when you're talking to a five year old you have to understand, they can't regulate their body yet, right?
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: So you have to,
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: The instruction I've been given by people who have raised a bunch of boys actually was to name the emotion They feel like you must feel very angry right now.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's okay to feel angry But you're not allowed to do stupid shit because you're angry simple right and it teaches them to Let's don't block it out because that doesn't work.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Absence doesn't work when it comes to emotion You can't do that shit So feel it and then learn to control it as you say right or I would say
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: respond and set a react take take a beat take 30 seconds like man this is making me feel this way why's it making me feel this way what's in appropriate response but in the time to take you to answer those two questions you're going to do something smarter than you would have if you're just like fuck this boom you know what I mean I think there's another approach that I was told when I was a young man who was like there was a filter
• 26:08
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• 26:13
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• 26:22
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  [SPEAKER_07]: And you get to decide on that field.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah.
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Adlerian psychology would call that positive reframing.
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the, that's what you're supposed to do.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: But the science behind it, that's just a phrase from some guy.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: The science behind that is two fold one.
• 36:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's a direct connection between IQ and violence.
• 36:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: The lawyer IQ, the more likely you are to do stupid violence shit.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you can see that all throughout the world right now.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Black and white.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: The most violent countries, like in Africa and the Middle East, for example, have IQs around 65.
• 37:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: No shock there, right?
• 37:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Makes sense.
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: The dumbest dude you know is probably more likely to get into a fight.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's probably true.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: The other one is that...
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Physiologically speaking, I can't speak for women, but males need somewhere between 30 and 60 seconds to accurately answer a complex social question.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: It takes your brain that lot about that amount of time to put all the pieces together, figure out, look, that second order effect, that third order effect, blah, blah, blah, okay, here's my answer, right?
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: So,
• 37:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Women are of social mind all the time.
• 37:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: They can respond very quickly to these things and usually in a more accurate way than mannequin.
• 37:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: A man needs time to consider that thing.
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: And what's, I guess, a more complex social question than responding to your own emotional stimulus, being especially when it's invoked by someone else, doing something that you may not like, right?
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: So having the presence of mind to
• 37:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: a buffer is a good way to put it but it's not a buffer just is time it's not just the time it's the fucking thoughtfulness during that period that's going to keep you from doing dumb shit and also it makes you I'll see this just from interrogation
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: giving somebody more time to think about what you're about to do, puts the anxiety back on them instead of you.
• 38:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now you're in a position of power and we do this intentionally.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I do it in any way if I interview somebody for a job.
• 38:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'll ask them a question and let them answer and I'll pause for another 15 seconds to see if they say anything else.
• 38:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I learned that from doing, from learning how to do interrogations on people, right?
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, think about it from both angles, one from answering or responding and two from being the person that's receiving the response and either side of that, it's very beneficial to you and helps you establish dominance over the other person which you should take into consideration for your man and my opinion.
• 38:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: to pause for a moment, and make the other person make the next move or make the mistake.
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Whoever talks first loses, I guess, that's kind of a silly way to put it, but that's kind of how it is.
• 39:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: It takes a lot to be uncomfortable in silence, sir.
• 39:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: most people can't do it guys run into that when it comes to like hanging out with women and dating too as much as they do in like negotiation or like a job individual any of these kind of situations like that ability to just be totally okay yeah yeah I think there's so
• 39:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the good green flag, if you've been dating somebody for a while, as you guys can just hang out and do nothing, it's pointless.
• 39:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because that means neither of you are anxious about what the other person's thinking.
• 39:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right, you guys are probably on a pretty good wavelength.
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: You've addressed the major issues that might come between you if you're able to just hang out and not even talk to each other.
• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I like that.
• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: So,
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now let's get into some of the more direct sexual stuff.
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: What do you think?
• 40:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: So men are having a hard time approaching women.
• 40:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think the devices have a big effect on that.
• 40:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Probably look like growing up looking into a screen and not making eye contact with people.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Eye contact has become uncomfortable for a lot of folk.
• 40:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if anybody's ever done a study on this, but try to ask a woman out on a date without making eye contact with her and see if it works.
• 40:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if that's ever worked unless she also was autistic and looking in the opposite direction.
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right?
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can't fucking do that.
• 40:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's ridiculous.
• 40:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: So you got to, I mean, that's, I contact as a good measure for some of these comfortable with themselves.
• 40:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean, more so there's to keep having your shoulders back generally, the good posture, but also direct eye contact, or the 96 or so percent of communication is nonverbal, right body language.
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: And those are the two primary forms of body language.
• 41:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: It shows somebody that you're a fucking competent and confident human being.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you can't do those two things, then you're kind of fucked, right?
• 41:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't, I don't, there's probably a lot more reasons for what we can talk about hormones to I rail on this stuff all the time, people's hormones are all fucked up.
• 41:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: But just from like an approach standpoint, how do you, how do you coach men who are having trouble with that on how to deal with it?
• 41:29
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, well, what the guys are really nervous and anxious about that idea, right, of walking up to a strange woman and, you know, saying hi, I ask her and her date, hitting on her whatever.
• 41:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: You can't fake your emotions to a woman.
• 41:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: So a piece of advice that I have told guys and as work quite successfully in the past is like you kind of have to own the fact that if you're actually our nervous, right?
• 41:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you go and talk to me.
• 41:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: You actually should be owning.
• 41:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: To say it.
• 41:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so the camera's a little nervous, but I think it's a bit simple as look, this is kind of nuts.
• 42:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'll be kicking myself for the rest of the day if I don't come up and say hi to you though.
• 42:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like you're calling out the very fact,
• 42:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: that you are anxious and nervous, which in and of itself actually kind of gets to remove your anxiety and nerves.
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it comes across as a lot more genuine, which makes you not creepy.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: Look, but if a guy came up to a woman and tried to act, pretend that he was like very confident, but she can obviously tell that he isn't, he is perceived as creepy.
• 42:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: That incongruency between
• 42:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: what a guy is thinking and feeling and then what he's projecting and portraying.
• 42:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: If there's an incongruency there, that is what women call creepy.
• 42:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 42:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, people like you can definitely X somebody up saying some creepy shit, but haven't like being a shifty fucker is way worse than anything you're going to say because you say something dumb You always have the out of like, oh, that was fucking stupid.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's not what I meant to say at all Carly Ray Jepson wrote about this noted author Who's laughing
• 43:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Ryan, Ryan, you're, I don't know if you're old enough to even know that it was your girl.
• 43:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: I do know who Carly Ray is, but I also didn't laugh.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, I have nothing but respect for Carly Ray back here.
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, she said, hey, I just met you and this is crazy, but here's my number, so call me, maybe.
• 43:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right?
• 43:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Poet.
• 43:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's hard to look right at, you baby, but here's my numbers of call me, maybe.
• 43:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, she was not talking about herself, she's communicating to men.
• 43:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Talk to me like a fucking adult, you piece of shit.
• 43:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Note, like if your job as a man, whether you're trying to just bank somebody, but more, hopefully your goal is to establish a long-term relationship and start a fucking family.
• 43:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you don't inspire confidence in this woman, that you're a competent person that can take care of her, you're just go fucking jump into the ocean, man.
• 43:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like that's your better off.
• 43:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I just like work on yourself first before you jump to,
• 43:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I mean, I think the strain of having to swim back will teach us lessons and resilience.
• 44:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, that's never going to work, ever.
• 44:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, like going back to what you said about this whole, the digital aspect of maybe Gen Z, Gen L, being a bit of a problem, you look at a lot of twitch's massive, twitch, YouTube, lots of live streamers, you look at the way these younger guys are learning how to socialize.
• 44:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: And they're learning like a form of like, to be a dancing monkey for a lot of these guys.
• 44:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: Lovely's live stream is like, people who are not necessarily like teaching people anything, they just say an entertainer, a pure entertainer, right?
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: They're, when a young guy's looking up to that, what's he seeing?
• 44:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: You're seeing a guy who's just saying shit for the sake of being controversial.
• 44:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's actually necessarily me, what are you saying?
• 44:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: He's just trying to be trendy, your vibe, go viral or whatever.
• 44:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: outrageous pranks are doing outrageous stunts.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's all it's like they're just this big dancing monkey who doesn't actually believe anything he's saying, believe anything he's doing, have any real values or convictions.
• 45:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's and in some cases they're just a corporate hall for whatever the sponsor they've got for the particular Twitch livestream.
• 45:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: And so and then you've got the women on on Twitch and stuff, a lot of them are just sitting
• 45:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it's like, you've got all these young guys learning kind of how to socialize by watching live streams of people in their home with a couple of other influences.
• 45:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like, clowning on each other.
• 45:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it's just producing a very anti-social gunman, I think.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I kind of sounds.
• 45:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: from the male perspective, pretty performative.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like a five-year-old jumping up in the air and doing a kick and saying, mom, look what I can do.
• 45:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, all right, cool.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, getting a fucking card.
• 45:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: We gotta go.
• 45:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 45:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think this disconnect between, it isn't just men and women, it's men and other men.
• 46:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how women and women are dealing with it.
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Women have always hated other women, so I don't know what the fuck they're up to over there, sinking up their cycles or whatever, but men and other men are having trouble communicating with each other now, which is kind of an odd thing to do because it used to be.
• 46:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: They used to be one of the, I guess, one of the prices of it mission to civilized society was being able to look another dude in his eyes and shake his hand and communicate that I got some value in competence, right?
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's also, there's also like no checks and balances on that, on that, on that man-to-man communication.
• 46:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: Either when you've got, like, when you, your main media and communication is online.
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, if you can spook out on Twitter, spook out on Twitch in the comment section on YouTube, whatever, and that's just how you've kind of lived your entire teenage years.
• 46:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: You are very disconnected from the violent nature of reality.
• 47:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, getting popped in the phasing a whole times when you're young is not a bad thing.
• 47:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, doesn't really work so much coming from your parents, but by your peers, it's important to have a self-correcting function, I think.
• 47:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: just the ability to communicate in general, the cascades are not being able to communicate rather than cascading effects of this are like.
• 47:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: We think of it in terms of not being able to accomplish what we're trying to accomplish socially in the moment, but the real cascading effect is the loneliness and the nihilism that comes as a result of that, right?
• 47:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because it then becomes a self-fulfilling thing.
• 47:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because you go home after a week, ill-advised attempt, and people think, well, women just don't like me.
• 47:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: So no, that woman didn't like what you did in that moment.
• 47:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what really happened.
• 47:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: But you don't know that women don't like you because you don't even know what the fuck you're doing.
• 47:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you don't even know how to communicate who you are as a human being to this person.
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're speaking to completely different language.
• 48:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: When I say that, I don't mean the literal language, I mean the fact that most communication is non-verbal and you don't know how to stand up straight and talk to somebody who all look at them in the eyes.
• 48:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're speaking in completely different language.
• 48:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: The only thing they're seeing is your fucking bad posture in body language.
• 48:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's all they're seeing in that moment.
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: And again, you go home and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy and then you get these dudes who, you know, I guess it's kind of the counter to the Madonna or Complex where you just see that you start to believe maybe as a defense mechanism that women have no value so I should not invest anything in them because there's no ROI, there's no return on that investment for me.
• 48:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: So and then they then they've grown to call themselves sigma males in the social media space, which is the worst That is the worst description of what they are.
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're nihilists.
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're just like, oh, well, the games not going the way I want So I'm taking my ball and going home.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's who they are.
• 49:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: That is the attitude.
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I do see it.
• 49:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: I see a lot of that
• 49:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: like repeated again and again online this idea of like the juices and worth the squeeze yeah modern women aren't worth dating and i'm just and it's always coming from a guy who clearly doesn't actually have any experience and my thought to him is like man you like you're missing out on like
• 49:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's an entire sphere of life by not having women in your life.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: Women can be in the wings sometimes and they have a period with socks, but they're actually really lovely creatures when they love you, when they respect you and love you and adore you.
• 49:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's damn enough and better than that, and it makes me sad seeing guys just give up.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: like that.
• 49:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's just pathetic to be honest, it really is, it's like, but if you look through the lens, the way that a five-year-old reacts to emotional stimulus is pathetic to, but he's five, so it makes sense.
• 50:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're fucking 30, dude.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's time to grow up.
• 50:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: And to some degree, I don't blame the guys because one, they're getting hammered with
• 50:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: either bad information from the person you're describing.
• 50:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: And there's a lot of them out there.
• 50:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Or from the other end, they're getting fucked with by these feminist retards who are just like, you're like, the men have no value stuff.
• 50:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, all right, cool, go build your own house, dumb dumb.
• 50:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: And unfortunately, that's probably most of the teachers they had when they were talking about.
• 50:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Almost all, I think it's like 85% of teachers are female, right?
• 50:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: And would lean towards being a feminist?
• 50:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, it's not a good deal.
• 50:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I think that is the counterbalance to the Medanohore complex.
• 50:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is this so-called sigma male nihilist who's trying to pull you out of the social sphere from that direction while just your own misunderstanding of what the relationship between men and women is supposed to be is pulling you in the other direction.
• 51:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Whether it's your friend at work who's a female, your mom or grandma or a fucking stranger on the street or your wife or your daughter, that woman no matter what age she has wants you to be a competent protector of her.
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: right and it's going to the result of you being that and communicating that to her is going to be more ateration, more affection etc.
• 51:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: regardless of whether it's sexual from your wife or girlfriend or just random women or you know more along the lines of a family love or something like that right just the way it works.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: So
• 51:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, guys, you got to be resistant to this bullshit, right?
• 51:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: The bad information.
• 51:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think a big source of frustration for a lot of guys as well is like their expectation of what women should be, how women should behave is constructed from
• 52:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: a completely false narrative that they've been fed ever since they're a young man through you know mainstream feminism through most movies, most wrong comes, most you know sitcoms and TV shows and things they teach men that oh the hot blonde will fall for the bumbling idiot.
• 52:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: The hot blonde will fall.
• 52:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: The gorgeous brunette with a big rack.
• 52:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: She's going to go after the guy who's incompetent in every way possible.
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 52:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: Kevin James broke a lot of brains.
• 52:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: Kevin James broke a lot of brains.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
• 52:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like that's just, you're just setting guys up for failure when you're just, and you might think, oh, people want to send it to a movie and it's a joke.
• 52:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: If you just see, if you're being told the same lie again and again,
• 52:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well view of what women are like, what women respond to.
• 52:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: And then he goes out in the real world, interacts with a woman and she doesn't respond positively to these things.
• 53:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: He gets frustrated, he gets buttered, and then he becomes such a hate woman and really resent women.
• 53:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: Because he's just been fed a complete lie and no one told him, like that's all horseship.
• 53:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: This is actually how women behave, this is what they respond to.
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: And if you do these things, you'll actually have a fantastic experience with women.
• 53:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: But that gap between his expectations and reality is what's letting them down.
• 53:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: What, in addition to just the, I guess, I don't even know what you would call that really, but the idea that the woman's gonna fall for an incompetent herred, right, in addition to that.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: What are you thinking of some other expectation to a lot of these dudes have that are just wildly inaccurate?
• 53:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, one of them is the Madonna Horror Complex, where telling you, you're out in a social situation with your woman,
• 53:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Put your fucking hand around the back of your neck and squeeze it kind of hard and I guarantee you you're going to lay that night.
• 53:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's a fucking cheat code, by the way.
• 53:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: I hate to share it because now these bras are no about it, but it's a fucking cheat code.
• 54:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm telling you, especially if you get large hands, but there's a lot of misconceptions about that stuff.
• 54:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: What do you, in addition to this, the bumbling idea, one, what are some other ones that you kind of run into?
• 54:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: This idea of putting a woman on her pedestal, like supplicating to women, kind of like being
• 54:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: carpet that I can just walk all over.
• 54:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh yeah, like no woman respects a guy that doesn't have boundaries.
• 54:29
  [SPEAKER_07]: Right the guy like
• 54:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: because the narrative is like, oh, for guy has boundaries, he's controlling, right?
• 54:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: And we talked about this before, but the idea that you have to have boundaries to have a relationship in the first place.
• 54:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 54:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: Otherwise, there isn't a relationship.
• 54:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: There was nothing there.
• 54:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like it's the same concept applies to like nations.
• 54:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: If there's no border, you don't have a nation, right?
• 54:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: So he has to be able to like,
• 54:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: demonstrate that he has boundaries, which demonstrates to her that he has actually got self respect.
• 54:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: If he can't, if he doesn't have any self respect, if he is this guy who is, this is another thing that is sort of falsely portrayed as being accurate, it's this idea that women respond to what positively to a guy who's like in touch with his emotions, in tune with his emotions, which is portrayed as a guy who is just being extremely emotional.
• 55:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: He isn't a guy who, let's say, perhaps stoic and actually in control of his emotions.
• 55:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: He's a guy who gives into his emotions, and basically uses his woman as a therapist.
• 55:29
  [SPEAKER_07]: That idea is just, I don't think anything could dry up a giant or up fast than a guy just sitting there and treating her like a counselor.
• 55:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's boundaries and consequences matter.
• 55:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can tolerate, or you can't tolerate bad behavior, right?
• 55:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: No matter where it comes from.
• 55:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now as a man, you've got to, again, you've got to respond and not react.
• 55:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Your woman is a more emotional creature than you are and it's going to be some of that.
• 55:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: And in the moment, you should deal with it.
• 56:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Accordingly, but after the fact when she settles the fuck down, like, hey, you got to get knocked that off, right or like let's let's find a way to mitigate the intensity of this stuff a little bit or if there's underlying issues that are coming out in these moments, let's address those things so
• 56:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: when you get into that emotional state, the thing that you're thinking of is so preposterous because we've solved so many problems that even you are like, well, that might be stupid.
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I should just shut the fuck up for five minutes and wait for this to pass or whatever.
• 56:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'll let something do that in it.
• 56:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think.
• 56:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: Women need this emotional roller coaster.
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: They need the ups and downs.
• 56:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, that's a physiological thing.
• 56:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: So for men, our hormonal cycle is 24-hour period for women, it's 30 or 28 days, right?
• 56:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: So all the stuff you feel on one day, hers is like, each one of those fucking hours that we have is like 10 hours for a woman.
• 56:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's just different.
• 56:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: But that's why women will start shit.
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: They'll start drama, they'll kick off, they'll get emotional in the course of relationship.
• 57:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: When everything is objectively perfectly fine, because they need that, when I call that down in the roller coaster, they need something in their life.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: If everything is, a guy is totally happy when everything is just smooth sailing and fine.
• 57:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: He doesn't need drama in his life because a man's life is for most parts quite challenging and he actually actually has to prove himself.
• 57:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it's another physiological thing, but the difference between men and women, when women bitch, their cortisol levels go down, when men and bitch, they go up.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like immediately, we're built differently, it's just the way it is, man.
• 57:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: But the point I'll add to it is.
• 57:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's, you're in a far better situation if you're the one who's kind of deliberately guiding that roller coaster, if you're leaving the relationship.
• 57:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: If you're the one who's, and I mean, you have to start arguments with it.
• 57:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: But if you're the one who's,
• 57:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: creating some of that, that negative every now and then, like, maybe it's maybe you're deliberately being cheekier and injecting a bit of drama, even though you know it's no big deal, at least you're in control of the roller coaster then.
• 58:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: So it's easy for you to react to it in a positive way versus if there's no drama, if it's all smooth sailing, she's going to start some shit at some point eventually and then you're going to have to react to it.
• 58:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's a far better situation when the guy is
• 58:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: leading things in a way that, okay, he knows that he has to have some like dips every now and then that has to be some kind of emotional variance.
• 58:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's better if it's coming from him.
• 58:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Can you give me a practical example how you might do something like that?
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: Practical example would be like commenting on like one of our friends like, oh, she looks fucking sexy in that dress.
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: A little bit of jealousy.
• 58:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: A little ping a jealousy.
• 58:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: Just like non-shelves, but you're not going to act on it.
• 58:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to do anything about it.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: But commenting on like another girl beauty in front of her, just
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's a ping of negative emotion, a ping of jealousy, let's say.
• 59:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: which just keeps things interesting.
• 59:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: Keeps it.
• 59:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: This is why women are like, women will never leave, is probably a bit harsh saying this, but women don't tend to leave guys who are like super, and I'm not saying guys should do this, but they don't tend to leave guys who are like super emotionally abusive, because there's just so much of this roller coaster going on that she gets hooked.
• 59:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: He's like an emotional slot machine for her.
• 59:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like she pulls that lever, she never knows, like, is she gonna win the jackpot or is she gonna lose?
• 59:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: and it's just so inconsistent, there's emotional variance that she gets addicted to it.
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: Same reason why people get addicted to slot machines.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it's like understanding that.
• 59:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: If you're ignorant to that, and you just try to make everything always smooth.
• 59:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe you're life.
• 59:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe your life.
• 59:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: is just so chaotic that you don't have to do anything like maybe your life is so chaotic you're so busy you know you're traveling around the world you're controversial you are people hating on you all the time whatever right maybe your life just is naturally a bit chaotic in which case you don't have to do a damn thing but if you are just a regular nine to five Joe who's smooth sailing you she needs a bit of drama here and there and it's far better to come from you because you you can control it and you know that it doesn't really mean anything
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: the hood of trying to start it because someone's going to start it it's going to come from something yeah i don't know about all that that's that's uh that's something um there's definitely got to be some kind of emotional release valve though like at the on that point
• 1:00:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's 100% accurate for everybody, even for dudes, though, I think.
• 1:00:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's one of the reasons that I think comedy played such a big role overcoming all the COVID madness, you know what I mean?
• 1:00:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just like comedy is kind of a pressure release about broader society.
• 1:00:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you and I can make fun of each other, there's a lot less chance that we're going to get into a fight about something.
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
• 1:00:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: So maybe hitting on our friends isn't a great idea.
• 1:00:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I guess that's not really what you're saying.
• 1:01:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I probably wouldn't do that, but I will talk some shit from time to time.
• 1:01:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Not necessarily to start drama, but maybe that's what I'm doing.
• 1:01:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well that's what floating is really.
• 1:01:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: A little bit.
• 1:01:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, if you got to have a good, what's the phrase you got to have a good roast to compliment ratio and a relationship or some shit like that?
• 1:01:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like you got to talk a little shit to each other.
• 1:01:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we call it banter.
• 1:01:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's okay.
• 1:01:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: That ability.
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: People like that.
• 1:01:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: I've got a good example, actually.
• 1:01:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was talking about a man cave the other day and showing her a picture, and then she started talking about rugs for the next five minutes.
• 1:01:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Look, fuck you talking about rugs for her.
• 1:01:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, I don't know if she did it on purpose to provoke me, but I think she may have.
• 1:01:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now, here in you say that, she may have been doing that shit on purpose.
• 1:01:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I don't think we've been doing it on purpose.
• 1:01:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's innate, like it needs up.
• 1:01:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's almost instinctual for them to do it.
• 1:01:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe.
• 1:01:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I like it.
• 1:01:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: I like the shit talking part of it
• 1:01:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that that's another green flag in a relationship.
• 1:01:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you're having like, uh, non-barbed, insult exchanges, they don't actually have any depth to them.
• 1:02:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, with your significant other, that's probably a good sign.
• 1:02:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, tell them well, I think, um, like what the fuck, I, I make fun of her for not staying hydrated a lot, uh, I don't know why.
• 1:02:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's because I'm so well hydrated, I think, uh, um, but yeah, little shit talking like that.
• 1:02:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's super helpful.
• 1:02:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:02:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't want to trivialize an emotion that's serious to the other person in the moment, especially.
• 1:02:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: But if you can have a comical conversation about it at to your point when it's not in the height of that emotional response, it's probably a good idea to do that from time to time.
• 1:02:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, hey, you were fucking, you're really paying any of the day.
• 1:02:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: You want to talk about that for a minute?
• 1:02:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think,
• 1:02:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: This, yeah, it's like, really what you're, whether it's the relationship or not.
• 1:03:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're talking about friendships, ultimately, right?
• 1:03:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: All relationships are some sort of friendship.
• 1:03:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: They just have different environmental factors.
• 1:03:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like you want to be friendly with your parents, even.
• 1:03:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
• 1:03:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Not that they should treat you like they're your friend or whatever, right?
• 1:03:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: There should be a different type of respect there, but these relationships matter.
• 1:03:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: And,
• 1:03:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: There are going to be some things that are true about all of your relationships with men, and about all of your relationships with women.
• 1:03:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
• 1:03:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm... These women who say things like, oh, I'm just one of the guys.
• 1:03:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, okay.
• 1:03:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: We'll see when dudes get into a small confined space together.
• 1:03:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: We'll see how much of one of the guys you are, because we are fucking disgusting.
• 1:03:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, we, I think, uh, didn't 30 rock do that one time.
• 1:03:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: yeah uh... it was just like when men have no like drive for women or anything like that they just get completely yeah they don't show horrific yeah fucking gross so you know in the same way we need that to i think it's like to your point about
• 1:04:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: that relationship that men have to women, what we get out of it, the reason that we build all this crazy shit is for the most precious currency and the history of human beings, plus you, and it will always be the most precious currency ever, no matter what anybody else says.
• 1:04:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: But it's a good thing for society to for
• 1:04:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: the most possible masculine dude to be trying to build something to impress the most feminine woman right because then you get the balance that nature requires for us to exist as not just otherwise it's just a fucking thunder dome.
• 1:04:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: If it was just dudes who were like yeah I'm going to build some crazy shit we'll go to the moon we'll go to the moon and build a fucking circle pit and watch people fight to the death right I mean because that's what interests us but you get to
• 1:04:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Without, I mean, I don't really care for rom-coms that much, but I'm sure there's plenty of entertainment that I get drawn into because of women and even kids.
• 1:05:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: I probably wouldn't watch Harry Potter ever watched Harry Potter if it wasn't made.
• 1:05:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: It would only have been made for children, right?
• 1:05:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I enjoyed it as an adult, that was great.
• 1:05:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Same thing with Lord of the Rings, like that.
• 1:05:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: That was in the thirties when that was written, right?
• 1:05:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Think it's in the 1930s.
• 1:05:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: We get, there's a lot of benefit we get from that polarity, you know.
• 1:05:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's like, again, I feel bad for those dudes who have opted out.
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: You have no idea where you're missing.
• 1:05:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's such a, it's like I understand getting but hurt and fucking run on a way.
• 1:05:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you're a child or something like that, but the loss is so great.
• 1:05:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean, no one's going to care about your unique situation anywhere as a guy, no one gives a shit.
• 1:05:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: So only you can give a shit about yourself.
• 1:06:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, this idea, like we've, we've made victimhood fashionable in so many different ways that I think a lot of guys have seen that and think that they can play that game.
• 1:06:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: Women can play the victimhood.
• 1:06:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's the sneaky fucker game, right?
• 1:06:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 1:06:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: with seals, walverses, et cetera.
• 1:06:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: There is one large male who's called the Beach Master, and he does all the fucking.
• 1:06:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: And all the other dudes sit on the other side of the berm, and they're in the cuck chair.
• 1:06:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
• 1:06:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: But the sneaky fucker uses his shiftingness to wait for the Beach Master to leave or go to sleep or something they've come in, and that's how their DNA continues to get past.
• 1:06:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, the human social version of that is to try to use the male feminist is the best example.
• 1:06:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, oh, I'm a male feminist.
• 1:06:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, no, no, no, no.
• 1:06:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: And they're the worst people.
• 1:07:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like the worst people, the way that they actually treat women is the worst of anybody that isn't just outright beaten them.
• 1:07:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: Because like, because he thinks he's in type of something.
• 1:07:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: That male feminist in his mind is like,
• 1:07:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: He's deposited nice guy tokens into the vending machine and push you should be dropping at the other end.
• 1:07:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, what happened, you know, so this this level of entitlement from that guy is actually what makes those dudes like actually quite dangerous for me to be around like I guarantee you like
• 1:07:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: The girl who passes out unlike a couch at a frat party, the dude who's touching her up isn't like the jock from the football team.
• 1:07:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's the male feminist.
• 1:07:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: Jumped on his opportunity.
• 1:07:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and a lot of this weakness comes from the precipitous drop in horn and testosterone levels.
• 1:07:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know how it is in Australia.
• 1:07:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: In the U.S.
• 1:07:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: the last large study was done showed that the average 21 year old today has the same level to Stosero and the grandfather had in 2000.
• 1:08:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's dropped from an average for a 21 year old of like 800.
• 1:08:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: to the mid-force over the course of a generation and a half.
• 1:08:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:08:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: We don't have this interesting looking at Australia like compared to America's.
• 1:08:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: We don't have some of the big, like...
• 1:08:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: Chemical problems you guys have here so like you guys have got high fructose corn syrup and everything yeah We don't have that you guys have whole bunch of like pesticides and herbicides you spray on your crops that are a little at a legal In the rest of the world yeah, that penetrates into your food supply You have a bigger population which means more hormonal birth control is present in the water supply like there's a lot of
• 1:08:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: The average guy has to sort of, he's facing this constant battle with the environment he's in where he has to like, to try and maintain any semblance of normal, healthy, poor, modal function.
• 1:08:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's kind of scary.
• 1:08:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: I really good book on this topic that I just talked about with Canada, actually, is Asterogeneration by Anthony Jay.
• 1:09:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: super good book on this topic.
• 1:09:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: He comes in great detail.
• 1:09:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's a bit of a black pill like you you might get a little bit paranoid breeding it, but it's very accurate.
• 1:09:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't add lines like it discusses the problem in extensive detail.
• 1:09:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't that stuff doesn't make me paranoid because I know how to solve it.
• 1:09:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's a relatively easy thing to solve.
• 1:09:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: As a matter fact, even with just lifestyle changes, you can boost yourself up pretty pretty high.
• 1:09:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Some people, I know a lot of people, even as adults have been able to tackle that issue without drugs, just like change a couple of things, right?
• 1:09:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like I like to drink from time to time, mostly wine these days, a little whiskey, but people that are consistent and heavy drinkers, you're going to have some hormonal issues, just as a result of that.
• 1:09:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, you have to eat your dinner before you eat your dessert.
• 1:10:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is a rule all throughout human existence.
• 1:10:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: If I want to go do X, Y, and Z, I got a fucking run a little bit or lift weights or eat this first or whatever the fuck.
• 1:10:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to find some pretty good balance.
• 1:10:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: When you see these people who live to
• 1:10:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like the what is it called the blues I think yeah the diets very eat different kind of stuff But one thing that doesn't is the movement you ought to be in like
• 1:10:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: people that walk up stairs tend to live longer, which probably get something out of that, I guess.
• 1:10:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think Farmer's too live longer, too.
• 1:10:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: That maybe I don't know what that one, but that would seem true, but like the kids tend to be taller in the very least, especially if they grow up in a dairy farm.
• 1:10:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: Farmer's.
• 1:10:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think I look that up.
• 1:10:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 1:11:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe.
• 1:11:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like,
• 1:11:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: people that live that people that have not just stay alive longer but are like we instead of saying life span we're starting to say health span now like how long am I actually able to move around and do this should I want to do right people that tend to go deeper into that process.
• 1:11:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's usually one marker, it's like, well, I always do this.
• 1:11:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Cause you see, I remember when you wouldn't know this cause it was in American television back in the day.
• 1:11:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: But in the late 90s, only 2000s, this fat bastard Al Roker, he was like a weather guy or some shit that he was part of the today show.
• 1:11:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And every day there would be some 105 year old person on the show.
• 1:11:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: And he would always interview him like, hey, what's your secret to stay in healthy?
• 1:11:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it would always be something stupid, right?
• 1:11:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Some wildly disparate idea, nothing.
• 1:11:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: You could really collect data from.
• 1:11:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I remember this one guy was 111 years old.
• 1:11:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Lewis black the comedian talked about it at some point he goes what's your secret he goes I drink a gallon of thunderbird wine a week and I eat Bread heels dipped in bacon fat like well, that's not it right something else He probably he probably walked every day everywhere.
• 1:12:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: It went right and he was like 111 years old or some shit like that The store the purpose of that story is that
• 1:12:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can do stuff, but you better invest first, you know, put some good shoes on before you go run the marathon.
• 1:12:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:12:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's a good idea, because again to your point, whether it black pills or not, modern society is against you in almost every way, because we just haven't evolved like this.
• 1:12:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: We haven't evolved to sit around all day looking at a fucking screen.
• 1:12:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: too much fucking blue line yeah it's fine so don't get out in the sun enough that's a big one as well no sun like eat for people with our skin tone even absorbing vitamin D from the sun now even if you stay out in the sun all day is difficult like our absorption rate is lower today than it was 20 years ago yeah so almost if you're a if you're a cracker like me you pretty much have to take vitamin D every day um
• 1:13:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, monocidies kind of set up against you, but don't be a bitch, you're a man, be a man, figure out the problem, work the problem and solve it and then live a good life.
• 1:13:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's up to you, you get to decide whether you're going to do that or not.
• 1:13:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: And you're lucky you're bright now because you've got the incident.
• 1:13:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: A lot of people have solved this problem for you already.
• 1:13:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, about 2,000 years ago, the coldest stoics and then Aristotle, they solved almost all these problems.
• 1:13:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can go look them up, most of it's free to be honest, just half of it.
• 1:13:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just if you wait for the right time on audible, at some point, all of it's free.
• 1:13:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: You've had a right whole day stuff.
• 1:13:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's been on a show a couple of times.
• 1:13:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: He lives around here somewhere, and that was sweet.
• 1:13:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it was a big fan of it.
• 1:13:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's great.
• 1:13:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the modern stoic was his first book I think.
• 1:13:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: The book I was introduced to him by his book called Trust Me I'm Lying, Confessions of a Media Mini-Pyleta.
• 1:13:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: That was incredibly useful for me in regards to business stuff.
• 1:14:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, he's a smart guy, I like his stuff.
• 1:14:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: You've got a book out.
• 1:14:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: I've several.
• 1:14:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: So what are they?
• 1:14:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: I have books that help guys get over premature ejaculation.
• 1:14:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: I have books that help guys get over performance anxiety.
• 1:14:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: I have books on like porn industry, biohacks and things like that.
• 1:14:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: They can help their sex life.
• 1:14:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: I've got a couple of video courses.
• 1:14:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: I've got a brand new book for women that just came out to help them coax better sex out of their man without bruising his ego.
• 1:14:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's a pleasure, pleasure looping.
• 1:14:34
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• 1:14:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: So there's a kind of conundrum with women, like if you want, if you're a man, ain't like hit that right.
• 1:14:52
  [SPEAKER_07]: You kind of don't want to bruise his egos, because if a woman says like the wrong thing in that situation, you can give a guy like a reptile dysfunction.
• 1:15:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, if you could just really fuck his head up.
• 1:15:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: So it's like a tight rope.
• 1:15:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: They kind of go to walks and I get to elicit the correct attitude out of their man, I guess.
• 1:15:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: And to give him the correct kind of feedback in the moment, so she's not sort of nagging him and telling him what to do.
• 1:15:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, um, that's interesting.
• 1:15:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: And what's the, what's, what are the other, the titles of the books?
• 1:15:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Are they on Amazon and shit?
• 1:15:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: No, if you go to StealingCube.com, you can find.
• 1:15:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's Sterling with two eyes, by the way, not in the middle.
• 1:15:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I and G, people always say Sterling with an eye, or something like that.
• 1:15:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, 10 of those two eyes, that's autism.
• 1:15:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think I probably didn't need to say any of that.
• 1:15:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Sterling with an eye, Sterling, STI.
• 1:15:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's a thing, STI's.
• 1:15:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't think too much about that, but then I'll see you for a minute.
• 1:15:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, SterlingCooper.com.
• 1:15:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: you can get those books, STI.
• 1:15:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, when's the, when's the new and come out?
• 1:15:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: It is launched over.
• 1:15:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, cool.
• 1:15:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 1:15:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that one's at Sterling for her.
• 1:15:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Sterling for hood.
• 1:15:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, dot com.
• 1:15:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: Sterling still spell the same way.
• 1:16:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, give me the, uh,
• 1:16:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Go back through the books again, what's the first one's about a rectangle dysfunction?
• 1:16:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: Look, a book on preventing premature ejaculation.
• 1:16:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: The premature ejaculation.
• 1:16:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: We've got the old-foot God before months ago.
• 1:16:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it's not just thinking about your dead grandma or the fuck?
• 1:16:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: No, it's not.
• 1:16:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what they tell people.
• 1:16:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot more you can do.
• 1:16:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: to fix that.
• 1:16:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: But what I'll see the problem is you may start to fetishize your diagram already.
• 1:16:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's all your problem.
• 1:16:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't want to run again.
• 1:16:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: So let's not do that.
• 1:16:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then there's one on a reptile dysfunction.
• 1:16:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, that's tied into the book, it's called, how I grew my penis another porn industry secret.
• 1:16:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's an entire book on biohex relating to the porn and a graphic industry, supplementation stuff, exercises, whole bunch of stuff.
• 1:16:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Cool.
• 1:16:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is the third one.
• 1:16:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: Did we have a couple of video courses, ones on DirtyTalk, which is kind of like a bootcamp teaching guys how different frameworks of like how to actually sub-communicate correctly in the bedroom.
• 1:16:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: DirtyTalk is something guys get quite nervous about.
• 1:17:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: They're really now what to say.
• 1:17:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: So they just default to repeating something they've heard in a corner.
• 1:17:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: But you can get a lot more intricate and nuanced and instructive with it.
• 1:17:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Instructive, give me an example.
• 1:17:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: come over here, get on your knees, grab it, take it out, put it in your mouth.
• 1:17:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like, there's different categories of dirty talk I break down on this one.
• 1:17:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: So it's sort of like, you have leading and instructing kind of dirty talk that you have descriptive dirty talk, where you sort of relaying back to her what's actually happening to her in the moment using very descriptive adjectives.
• 1:17:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it's a way of like,
• 1:17:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: fast tracking a woman to an orgasm.
• 1:17:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like the brain is the thing that turns a woman on the show.
• 1:17:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 1:17:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, and if you can
• 1:17:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: happen to that in the right way.
• 1:17:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: You can just save yourself a whole lot of time and a whole lot of stress when it comes to pleasing you on them.
• 1:17:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it's super fun for you, super fun to hurt.
• 1:17:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's actually it's dirty talk in and of itself is actually kind of self hypnosis.
• 1:18:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 1:18:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like if you're dirty talking to your woman, you're actually going to arouse yourself.
• 1:18:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
• 1:18:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: So it's actually another way of getting over things like performance anxiety in the red hotest function.
• 1:18:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: Interesting.
• 1:18:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, super interesting.
• 1:18:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: And everybody can find those books at surlinkooper.com and then the new one is which one's that.
• 1:18:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's the course.
• 1:18:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: The uh, that's the whole.
• 1:18:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: We have a lot of it.
• 1:18:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then there's go to the other site.
• 1:18:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's sterling for her.
• 1:18:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: Is it the number four or the word for?
• 1:18:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: OK.
• 1:18:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: For her.com.
• 1:18:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: There we go.
• 1:18:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like you fucked up, dude.
• 1:18:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: He died at the hour.
• 1:18:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: There we go.
• 1:18:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:18:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: The pleasure blue prints.
• 1:18:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: How to get him to give you the mind blowing sex you want and deserve.
• 1:18:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
• 1:18:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Get it, lady.
• 1:18:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, for all you, for all your broads out there.
• 1:18:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: So we'll see breads.
• 1:18:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:18:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Go check that out.
• 1:18:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, thanks for coming today, man.
• 1:18:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate it.
• 1:18:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you very much on.
• 1:18:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:18:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of fun.
• 1:18:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: I do.
• 1:18:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Great show.
• 1:18:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: I like talking about this stuff.
• 1:18:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: People think it's weird.
• 1:18:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, this, this bothers me.
• 1:19:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: I talk about this show all the time.
• 1:19:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: You are all here as the result of your parents' fucking, your dad, cream-pied your mom.
• 1:19:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe she was awake when it happened.
• 1:19:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe she wasn't sitting on my business.
• 1:19:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: You have no idea, I have no idea.
• 1:19:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: But you are all the results of cream pies out there.
• 1:19:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Stop being worried about sex, learn about it.
• 1:19:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a big part of your fucking relationship.
• 1:19:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Don't be one of these women who's a fucking angry, sexless person because this is how all this blue hair and fucking stupid bullshit started.
• 1:19:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: And don't be one of these little bitch ass dudes who allow it.
• 1:19:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: makes society better by, as our guests so eloquently, you stated, dicking down to your woman.
• 1:19:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, thanks for coming today, I really appreciate it.
• 1:19:52
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