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Dr Buzz Burrell: General Practitioners Aotearoa Chair on Health NZ ordering thousands more vapes to help smokers quit · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Chelsea Zealand's ordering thousands more vapes to help smokers quit.
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  Speaker 1: They say the pilot programs that they've already done have
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  Speaker 1: helped more than four thousand. Kiwis ditched the Darries in
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  Speaker 1: just six months. Doctor Buzz Burrow is gp altra cheer.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Buzz, Good morning Ryan. Good to have you
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  Speaker 1: on the show. Is this a good thing? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we've better off vaping than we are smoking, that's what
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  Speaker 1: we're told.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's a good question, and your opening line is
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  Speaker 2: not incorrect. We are better off vaping than smoking. However,
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  Speaker 2: we're better off not doing anything than vaping. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that's where GPR is disappointed. We believe that the
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  Speaker 2: government and two and whoever's in between them almost misleading
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  Speaker 2: the public on the apparent success of this initiative. It's
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  Speaker 2: not as successful as it looks. It's almost like saying, look,
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  Speaker 2: it's better to drive a little bit drunk than very drunk.
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  Speaker 2: It's a step in the right direction, but it's certainly
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  Speaker 2: not as good as that making it out to be.
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  Speaker 2: It's just give you some idea of how we believe
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  Speaker 2: it's been a mislead. I work at a Southalkland General practice.
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  Speaker 2: And only last week I saw a teenager pick up
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  Speaker 2: one of the two leaflets saying babe, and he said, look, Mama,
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  Speaker 2: I told you they're safe, and that's the message getting across.
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  Speaker 2: They're not safe. And we wish there was just a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more honestly behind the data.
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  Speaker 1: So you're just saying it's a branding thing. Really by
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  Speaker 1: making it telling people it's lest bared the hearing it's healthy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, perfectly worded. And moreover, we're replacing one addiction with
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  Speaker 2: another addiction, which is not safe. If you think about
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  Speaker 2: the science, it is very clever. Whoever invented the idea
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  Speaker 2: of inhaling a substance got it right. If you're addicted
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  Speaker 2: to something, you swallow it, your brain gets it hit
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  Speaker 2: in about twenty minutes. If you intravenously injected, your brain
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  Speaker 2: gets it hit in about sixty seconds. But if you
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  Speaker 2: inhale it, your brain gets that hit in fifteen to
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  Speaker 2: twenty seconds. That cycle, that addictive cycle, I wanted. I
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  Speaker 2: got it. That was great. There's no fast way of
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  Speaker 2: rewarding that than inhaling something. So someone's used inhaling tobacco
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  Speaker 2: and getting a hit. If we're giving them a vape
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  Speaker 2: they're going to get the.
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  Speaker 1: Same because what do they do then? What are they
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  Speaker 1: damned if they do? Damed if they don't, do they
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  Speaker 1: just not order these things? Or do they need to
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  Speaker 1: say here, you know, put up a skull and crossbone
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  Speaker 1: on it.
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  Speaker 2: In In fact, well look it up. Until about eighteen
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  Speaker 2: months ago, that's what we had and the entire medical
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  Speaker 2: profession was a gas at this current government reversed the
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  Speaker 2: smoking legislation and that was really everybody thought, a step
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  Speaker 2: in the completely wrong direction, which to see why it's
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  Speaker 2: fiscally driven, but that actually is unhelpful in the long term.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the answer is, I'll be honest,
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  Speaker 2: the eighty percent of people are still vaping when they've
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  Speaker 2: officially quit. Twelve months later. The UK did a study
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  Speaker 2: and worked out that two thirds of people who said
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  Speaker 2: they'd quit by tato vaping, two thirds were still vaping
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  Speaker 2: five years after they've given up. And this stuff is
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  Speaker 2: not safe. There are there's lung conditions, there's a cardy
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  Speaker 2: of asking for conditions. This is this is not a
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  Speaker 2: safe alternative from.
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  Speaker 1: One bad thing to another. Doctor Buzz Burrow with us
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  Speaker 1: this morning
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