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#2119 Managing Your Energy - Bobby Cappuccio · The You Project

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  Speaker 1: Look at it, Tam.
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  Speaker 2: It's your project. It's it's Robert. It's Robert Capuccio, It's
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  Speaker 2: Tiffany and Cook. It's Craig Anthony Harper, it is it
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  Speaker 2: is us. It is a What day is it? It's
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday or Thursday? It's Thursday, thanks Tiff. It's the fifth
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  Speaker 2: of the third. It's a Thursday. Apparently it's twelve forty one.
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  Speaker 2: I do know that in the PM, not the AM.
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  Speaker 2: That would be weird. I just got back from a walk,
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  Speaker 2: did a quick eight thousand steps between appointments and a
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  Speaker 2: little feet a burning Hi, Tiff, how.
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  Speaker 1: Are you very good?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you? Harps.
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  Speaker 2: You don't do any regular and not that you need to,
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  Speaker 2: because you're very active, but you don't really You're not
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  Speaker 2: really a take notice of your steps so much kind
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  Speaker 2: of person, are you?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a little bit, A little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I walked a door too well.
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  Speaker 2: You'd probably crank out ten or twelve without really thinking
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  Speaker 2: about it too much when you watch your kind of
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  Speaker 2: do you know?
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  Speaker 4: I reckon My average now sits around for thirteen or
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  Speaker 4: fourteen thousand. I used to focus on it a bit
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  Speaker 4: more and it was over fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a few so what do you and then
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  Speaker 2: you figure out your stride length?
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  Speaker 1: What do you reckon?
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  Speaker 2: So fifteen k's for fifteen thousand steps would be somewhere
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  Speaker 2: around ten or eleven k's for you. I'm thinking, oh,
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  Speaker 2: she's looking.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to have a look at my gam and see.
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  Speaker 2: I have a look at your stride length and that'll
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  Speaker 2: give you your total distance.
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  Speaker 1: Bobby, Hi, Bobby, it was going on, come in with
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  Speaker 1: a bit more energy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to do it again because you have fucking
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  Speaker 2: energy today before the show and they're terrible.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go again. Hey Bobby, Hi, Hey Craig,
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  Speaker 1: Oh god fucking hell, can you take it? Can you
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  Speaker 1: take something? Can you have a beer or something? Please?
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  Speaker 1: We started to get in ten minutes, So next time,
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, you do that. How are you? What's going
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  Speaker 1: on over there?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm just mitigating all these things eighty because it
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  Speaker 5: was a it was a lot of big like build
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  Speaker 5: up getting onto the show today, a lot of like
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  Speaker 5: stop and go. It's like you ever see Jurassic Park
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  Speaker 5: where it's like, you know, he's about to get eaten
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  Speaker 5: by the tears. The tear Rex is just taunting them,
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  Speaker 5: like flipping the car over. It's like that is thank you?
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  Speaker 1: Right? So yeah, glass of wine? Brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: So somebody just handed you a glass of wine and
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  Speaker 2: a big well not a big arm, but an arm
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  Speaker 2: come in front of the camera.
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  Speaker 5: That is how powerful you all? You said, I got
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  Speaker 5: a wine, But that was impressive, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Fucking wow? You really manifested that. Wow. Wow, look at
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  Speaker 1: what I like?
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  Speaker 5: Are you like into like quantum physics and ship well
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  Speaker 5: clear and reality?
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  Speaker 1: Just now to get me that glass of wine. We
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  Speaker 1: don't need you drinking, We don't need you. Another all
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  Speaker 1: comes in through the screen.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, imagine if that's imagine if that same arm
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  Speaker 2: handed Tiff, Now, that would make me fucking David Copperfield
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  Speaker 2: or what's that other dude's name?
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  Speaker 1: What's that serious looking a Potter? No, Harry Potter, You're
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  Speaker 1: an idiot.
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  Speaker 2: And just we did mention it this morning on another show.
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  Speaker 2: But what do you think of TIFF's new ranger?
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  Speaker 1: Look? I love it. I love it. I think it
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  Speaker 1: really suits straight up? How long does that take to derangefi? Tiff?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, mate, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've had it done before, not this color.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even expect this color this time?
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  Speaker 1: What do you know who?
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  Speaker 2: You remind me of that little girl that sang at
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  Speaker 2: the Olympics that got holed up You know at the
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  Speaker 2: two thousand Olympics, that little girl that sang she got
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  Speaker 2: holed up on.
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  Speaker 1: Why what do you.
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  Speaker 2: Mean you didn't pay You didn't watch the opening ceremony.
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  Speaker 2: It was only twenty six years ago. You were sixteen.
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  Speaker 3: That's all right, I cannot recall.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you know what?
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  Speaker 2: Right now there's a whole bunch of oldies yelling at
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  Speaker 2: the screen the name of that that young well she's
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  Speaker 2: a woman, well and truly a woman now, But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: you've got the same kind of vibe.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look, Tiff, Tiff, Bobby, what are you drinking?
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  Speaker 3: Is that?
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  Speaker 1: What is that? Red wine or charez?
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  Speaker 2: What is that?
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  Speaker 1: I think this might be a petite sah. I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at it.
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  Speaker 5: The only thing we have is a pin and noir
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  Speaker 5: and a petite so ah, this looks This doesn't look
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  Speaker 5: late enough for cola to be like a pin, and
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  Speaker 5: so I think it's drink.
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  Speaker 1: That's a very big all right.
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  Speaker 5: Let's when I'm not drinking, I'm just holding it.
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  Speaker 3: You find is it Niki Webster.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Nicky Webster, Niki Webster. Yeah, she was a sweet
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  Speaker 1: she was as sweetie and saying like a.
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  Speaker 2: So I was going to say something inappropriate, so I'll
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  Speaker 2: just say she changed her Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Angel, thank you Bobby much better. So I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you about something today.
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk to you both about something today,
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  Speaker 2: which is it's very relevant for me over the last
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  Speaker 2: few months and very relevant well probably my whole life,
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  Speaker 2: but specifically because I've been a bit cook lately, but
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  Speaker 2: also a lot of people I talk to, and that
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  Speaker 2: is energy management.
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  Speaker 1: That is how you and how our audience.
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  Speaker 2: And so if you've got any advice or thoughts or
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  Speaker 2: ideas or experiences that are relevant, but you know, because
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  Speaker 2: I've been I have a thing everyone called pernicious anemia,
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  Speaker 2: which means I don't really absorb vitamin B twelve, so
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  Speaker 2: I've got to put B twelve injections into my ass
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  Speaker 2: on a weekly basis.
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  Speaker 1: I forget and then six weeks later, I go fucking hell,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like shit.
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  Speaker 2: And then then my subconscious goes, or my prefrontal cortex
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  Speaker 2: more accurately, goes, well, why don't you do that.
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  Speaker 1: Thing you meant to do and then so for me,
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  Speaker 1: always trying.
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  Speaker 2: To manage my physical, mental, emotional kind of energy and
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  Speaker 2: lately has been a bit hard, but not only kind
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  Speaker 2: of on a big scale, kind of globally in my life,
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  Speaker 2: but more specifically through the day. I seem to be
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  Speaker 2: better between so it's twelve forty seven between when I
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  Speaker 2: wake up and start doing shit, which is six ish
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  Speaker 2: to about two or three, I seem to be somewhere
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  Speaker 2: near my optimal I think we've asked you this before, TIF,
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  Speaker 2: but all around, and say, cognitive tasks, physical tasks, problem solving,
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  Speaker 2: which is cognitive emotional energy management, all round, Like when
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  Speaker 2: are you the best in the day?
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  Speaker 3: Early early.
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  Speaker 4: Or probably morning, maybe even mid to late morning is
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  Speaker 4: good for cognitive but you know what, and this, and
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  Speaker 4: I don't do this because it's terrible for my sleep.
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  Speaker 4: But if I sit down at the computer again after dinner,
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  Speaker 4: I can get very focused for a very long time
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  Speaker 4: into the evening. But that ruins my sleep, so I
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  Speaker 4: don't do it, which is annoying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a second wind quite often. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: talking about flatulence, but later in the day although although
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  Speaker 2: I mean same, same, but later in the day, hang
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  Speaker 2: on excuse me, but later in the day quite often,
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  Speaker 2: when I should be falling into a camera at seven
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  Speaker 2: point thirty after food, my brain's like, hey, why don't
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  Speaker 2: we do this? And I just start everything sharpens up.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I just woke up. It's like my IQ
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  Speaker 2: goes up. Periodically, my attention, my energy go and I
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  Speaker 2: do not know why, but so I kind of, you
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  Speaker 2: know when I've got it. Like last week, at about
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  Speaker 2: ten o'clock at night, I record a solo podcast, which
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  Speaker 2: I never ever do because I was fucking wired. I
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  Speaker 2: was so excited and I felt good and I had
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  Speaker 2: an idea. I went, fuck it, I'm just going to
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  Speaker 2: record something at you, Bobby. Is it.
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  Speaker 1: Haphazard or is it kind of more predictable with you your energy?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, my natural like peak levels of focus are early
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  Speaker 5: in the morning, through the morning until like ten or
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  Speaker 5: eleven o'clock, and in the evening about with a lull
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  Speaker 5: in the afternoon, mostly around like two to five PM.
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  Speaker 5: So if I could do something that's just a repetitive
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  Speaker 5: task that doesn't require a ton of creativity in those hours,
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  Speaker 5: ideally not doing a seminar, although you know sometimes that
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  Speaker 5: pops up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm at my best.
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  Speaker 2: What's is the top of the list for both of you?
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  Speaker 2: Like the variable that makes the biggest difference one way
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  Speaker 2: or the other? Is the biggest factor sleep for both
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  Speaker 2: of you? Or is it something else?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I too sleeps massive. I had a brilliant
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  Speaker 4: night's sleep last night, and I'm just on fire today.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 1: It's so fucking funny, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: I hate Bobby? How many wheeze do you have a night?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's just you, like no one's listing, But
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  Speaker 2: how many wheeze do you have a night? And by
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  Speaker 2: the way, how big is your prostate? Is it like
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  Speaker 2: a basketball, softball, a baseball?
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  Speaker 5: About eleven eleven to twelve weeks a night and it's
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  Speaker 5: about the size of a water melon.
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  Speaker 1: Now, so people think.
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  Speaker 5: It's a tumor. It's like, no, it's just a large prostate. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: bad life decisions.
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  Speaker 2: So do you still run that that hose that you
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  Speaker 2: had with those clans from.
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  Speaker 1: Your cock to that bucket? Or have you upgraded in
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  Speaker 1: some way?
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  Speaker 5: I have always wandered, like, what would life be like
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  Speaker 5: if I could just wear like a nappy?
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  Speaker 1: Ah? Could that improve my sleep patterns?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we getting into I feel like we've
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  Speaker 2: entered into insensitive territory led by me. I apologize everyone.
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  Speaker 2: I would tell you we'll edit that out, but we
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  Speaker 2: fucking won't.
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  Speaker 1: You know we won't.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, so just a general I think for everyone's
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  Speaker 2: sleep is probably the biggest variable after that. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to say a few in terms of energy,
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  Speaker 2: and of course it's different for different people. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking about I'm thinking about the weather, which people don't
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  Speaker 2: talk about when it's real hot. I struggle. I'm way
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  Speaker 2: better in cooler environments. Obviously food makes a big difference.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously stress or lack thereof, can make a big difference
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  Speaker 2: on everything, but ultimately energy management, and then I think, also,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just the fundamentals like workload, Like what is
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  Speaker 2: number two on the list for both of you.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to get towards.
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  Speaker 2: Talking about some solutions or potential solutions everyone.
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  Speaker 1: But Bobby, let's go with you. So after sleep, what's
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  Speaker 1: the biggest factor?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, movement, movement is mass It changes my thought patterns,
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  Speaker 5: It elevates my energy, increases my creativity, lowers my stress.
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  Speaker 5: But it's like what I do join that movement? You know,
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  Speaker 5: if I listen to something like instrumental, like a nice
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  Speaker 5: inspiring soundtrack, definitely game changer. So if I can restructure
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  Speaker 5: my environment to incorporate as much movement as possible, I'm
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  Speaker 5: just a different human being, so can.
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  Speaker 1: Be more specific. So like what like I do?
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  Speaker 5: Like the person I am now, I'm like a different
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  Speaker 5: version of.
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  Speaker 2: That fucking ltif he's hard work, he's drinking booze, he's
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  Speaker 2: being problematic.
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  Speaker 1: Before the show, he was just bitching, fucking help. Look,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't want to do the show anymore, just
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  Speaker 1: let us know. You don't have to be subliminal, just go.
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  Speaker 2: I fucking hate you both. I don't want to do
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  Speaker 2: the show, you know you Just let us know we're.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm going to.
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  Speaker 2: Go fuck all right, Well, I'll try and contribute something logical.
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  Speaker 2: When I do strength training for about an hour a day, everyone,
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  Speaker 2: it does all the good things for me. If I
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  Speaker 2: walk ten thousand steps plus a day, it does all
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  Speaker 2: the good things for me. And it also, which is
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  Speaker 2: very unexpected for me, when I started just consciously walking,
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  Speaker 2: because I was just randomly where I would just walk
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  Speaker 2: whatever I walked on the day. Some days it would
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  Speaker 2: be a lot. Some days it would be fuck all.
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  Speaker 2: More days it would be fuck all. But since I
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  Speaker 2: introduced like going out just before this show and doing
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  Speaker 2: a quick eight thousand, I actually feel happier, which is
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  Speaker 2: a weird correlation for me anyway, but it helps me emotionally,
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  Speaker 2: which helps me regulate a lot of other things. TIF
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  Speaker 2: can you offer anything more constructive than Bobby did? Because
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  Speaker 2: fucking hell?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, sure as hell can.
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  Speaker 2: I reckon, We're coming back to you, Bobby, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: giving you a se can chance.
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  Speaker 4: Bobby, I reckon food and movement, food and exercise head
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  Speaker 4: to head with me, I'll get angry. So I got
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  Speaker 4: to eat, but if I don't move. I was talking
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  Speaker 4: about this to someone the other day that it's obvious
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  Speaker 4: when you look at your priorities or your values, doesn't
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  Speaker 4: matter how important things are in my life, exercise always
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  Speaker 4: comes first. Exercise or never takes a back seat. It's
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  Speaker 4: very rare that I go, you know what, I actually
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  Speaker 4: can't make the gym today. Yes, there has to be
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  Speaker 4: a reason why that cannot be fit in.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Also, actually I'll shut up because
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting ahead of myself.
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  Speaker 1: Bobby, do you.
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  Speaker 2: Really want to tell us what the movement, what kind
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  Speaker 2: of movement, and how that impacts you and what you do.
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  Speaker 5: Well, yes, it's the time I expanded in the gym.
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  Speaker 5: But for me, if I would prefer in a perfect
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  Speaker 5: world to hit the gym at five am, ever in warning,
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  Speaker 5: because when I'm in the gym and i'm training hard,
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  Speaker 5: one you get it out of the way. Two it's
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  Speaker 5: like I can listen to a podcast. I can feed
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  Speaker 5: my mind with high quality information unless it's like me
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  Speaker 5: being interviewed on the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: You know how that goes. But unless it's the E
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  Speaker 1: Project carry on.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I feel so much more ready for the day.
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  Speaker 5: And I think it's it's that combination of the exercise
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  Speaker 5: and the input. I can't listen to anything too scientific
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  Speaker 5: while i'm moving, but something conceptual, you know, by the time,
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  Speaker 5: by the time eight o'clock in the morning hits, I
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  Speaker 5: have so many ideas in my head. The problem with
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  Speaker 5: me physiologically is if I do that by about ten
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  Speaker 5: to eleven o'clock in the morning, I am completely knackered.
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  Speaker 5: So that is too early in the day for me
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  Speaker 5: to get a workout in a hard workout in so
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  Speaker 5: I have to do a light workout in the morning,
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  Speaker 5: some type of ritual like it just involving like a walk,
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  Speaker 5: just just some some light movement, and then later on
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  Speaker 5: in the day if I train, that's perfect. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 5: it's those are just bookends. It's about intermittent movement. It's
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  Speaker 5: about intermittent movement where I'm not switching from one test
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  Speaker 5: to another. And I'm talking about cognitive flexibility. I'm not
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  Speaker 5: talking about multitasking so much where my brain is constantly on.
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  Speaker 1: Like I if I can just take a walk up the.
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  Speaker 5: Street or from one meeting to another, or to the
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  Speaker 5: car and just try to not think about anything, not
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  Speaker 5: send the next email, not send the next text, That's
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  Speaker 5: when I make most of my mistakes when I do
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  Speaker 5: that anyway, So I'm really not saving time. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 5: much wasting it. I'm in a completely different mental state.
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  Speaker 5: So it's bookending movement ritual in the morning, more tents
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  Speaker 5: to work out later on the day, and intermittent movement
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  Speaker 5: as much as I can possibly fit in so I
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  Speaker 5: can get my ten to fifteen thousand steps a month.
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  Speaker 2: Can I ask you and TIF you might have a
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  Speaker 2: thought about this, because maybe you have one foot in
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  Speaker 2: this pool as well. But Bobby, you've spoken many times
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  Speaker 2: about anxiety and all of those things, and mental health
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  Speaker 2: and obsession and the myriad of things that we talk
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  Speaker 2: about on this show.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like.
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  Speaker 2: That obviously there's a correlation between stress, anxiety, overthinking, and
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  Speaker 2: our subsequent energy that's left for the day. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of talking about investing a lot of energy in
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  Speaker 2: shit that we really can't change, which is often what
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  Speaker 2: anxiety is, or that kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of stress is. Do you ever think it, think.
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  Speaker 2: Of it in those terms of like I'm exhausted and
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  Speaker 2: I haven't fucking done anything, but I've thought everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like Thursday for me.
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  Speaker 6: I get it, especially like the like the more lack
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  Speaker 6: of predictability in my environment, the more I find myself
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  Speaker 6: engaging in things that caused me a lot of worry.
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  Speaker 5: They put me in a high state of arousal. But
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  Speaker 5: there's literally nothing I can do about it, not on
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  Speaker 5: a global scale, maybe on like a micro scale, but yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that's very hard for me to avoid.
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  Speaker 1: And that is where like today, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, we're we're looking to move again, Like are where
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  Speaker 5: we are is not a very it's not an inspiring neighborhood.
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  Speaker 5: Let's put it that way and looking for where we're
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  Speaker 5: going to move to. It's very important for me to
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  Speaker 5: be in a building that has so many amenities, so
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  Speaker 5: many nooks, so many says that were just like carved
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: out because I could stay home and I could structure
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: my environment in a way where those triggers are not present.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: So I was like, oh, I got to discipline myself
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: to not get to get off social media and get focused.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: I don't have to discipline myself to do shit because
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: the environment leads me to engage in things that are
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: productive and that usually only takes discipline for me for
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: about I don't know if you find this for about
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: ten minutes, Like I got to really discipline myself for
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: the first ten minutes to get engaged in something, but
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: anywhere from seven to fifteen minutes, like the activity pulls
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: me into it that level of engage, it almost takes
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: discipline to pull me away from it.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: If that makes sense? Yes, yes, do you think? And
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: then I'm coming to YouTube.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Do you think, Bobby, that you know if you spent
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: let's say you're working in an environment with people that
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: you like, it's not overwhelmingly phenomenal, but you certainly don't
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: hate going to work, so you're working with people that
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: you like. The job's pretty good. It's a seven, right,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: It's not a ten, but it's a seven. A year
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: of that versus a year of you working essentially in
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: isolation from home, what do you think is going to
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: be a better outcome for you.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: For what appeals more to you.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: That's really hard because it depends on the nature of
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: the work that I'm doing and who I'm doing it with.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: I know, but the thing is, for me, one thing
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: feeds another. If I have the right home environment right,
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: which is what I'm talking about, and I can literally
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: go somewhere that is esthetically inspiring or people are kind
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: of like weite noise, like a really cool coffee shop,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: and just sit there by myself and focus. Yeah, that
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: energizes me for the days where I get to get
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: out on the road and be around people, or that
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: I am I getting out on the road.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting on planes much anymore. It's all local.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: But if I'm going to a site to give a presentation,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: I have so much more energy to give, and then
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: I need to retreat back to that isolation and work
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: at home and gather myself so it's almost like a
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: virtuous cycle for me. But if the environment's wrong or
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: the nature of the work is wrong, or the people
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: are wrong.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's quite difficult. I don't think I'm unique
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: in that area.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Not everybody likes to be on the road, not everybody
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: likes to work out of coffee shops. But I think
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: the nature of what you're doing, how closely it's tied
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: to personal meaning? And who are the people you're working with,
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: and do they enliven you or are they people that
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: kind of like drag you down and deplete you know mentally.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I think there's a guy's a guy comes to the
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: cafe every morning.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: His time's Alex. Let's give a shout out to Alex. Alex.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Essentially, I'm not very good at this because I might
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: fuck up the actual wording. But he he plays the
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: stock market or he's like, it's not it's not like casual.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: This is his job, right, So he's all and he
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: he lives above the cafe, and he's got a well
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I've never seen it, but they're all very nice. So
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I imagine a beautiful apartment blah blah blah, and he
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: would spend I mean, I don't know, but every morning
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: when I get there, he's there.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: When I go, he's there. When I walk past, he's there.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I reckon.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: He spends at least eight hours a day in that cafe.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: He's set up and he's got his breakfast and his
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: lunch and his coffees and his mineral waters, and he's
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: got his that's his little office.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: And we've spoken about it often. He's like, I'm way
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: more productive here in.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: The energy, in the movements, in the background voices, in
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: the music, in the there's there's just he goes me
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: sitting in a room upstairs. It fucking drives him like
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: he's doing the same thing thirty thirty meters away with
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: a million distractions, and he's somehow way happier and more
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: content and more product So it's such a personal respond thing.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I think, Cookie, what's your what are your thoughts around
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: all this?
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: You made me think of when we first went into lockdown,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: and how surprised I was after a couple of weeks
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: of realizing how exhausted I was with all of the
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: in person interactions and just reflecting on, oh am I
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: an extrovert?
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Really? Or am I a little bit introverted? To, and
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I think we can.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: It's easy to lose kind of lose sight of what
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: what fills you up and what drains you a little
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: bit when you're doing lots of things. And yeah, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: feel like sometimes I can have a day where I
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: get to the end of the day, I'm like, I'm
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: so exhausted, and then I'll flick through in my mind
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: what I've done and sometimes judge it and get really
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: done anything because so many parts of my job are
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: just in joy like everything's enjoyable, or I'm with people,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I'm people, and I'm like, oh, you shouldn't be tired.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: One of the things I do also every morning at
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: the aforementioned cafe is and I mentioned this probably five
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: times over a years, but I look at my schedule
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: for the day and I used to literally ask myself
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: this question, not out loud, but now I just do
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: it automatically. But the question is in terms of what
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I want to do be, create and change today, what's
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the best use of my energy and time?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Like, so I look at all the shit I've got
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: to do, I go, Okay, what really matters? What kind
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: of matters? And what can wait?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: You know, obviously a podcast can't wait because it's scheduled
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: in but I might have to get back to that guy.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Well, if I get back to him tomorrow, that's all right,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: but I'll put it on my list for today. But
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: if I don't, that's okay.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And just that kind of awareness around optimizing and not
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: wasting whether it is time or energy or resources or skills.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: But that kind of put me into a more strategic
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: kind of place cognitively but also emotionally, in a place
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: where I wasn't just wasting, you know, like i'd fucking
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you know, overthink things I'd like when I used to
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: have multiple businesses, not surprisingly, but lots of stuff my
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: mind never fucking shut down and trying to get my
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: mind to.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Be quiet or still or to you know. And it
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: wasn't just that I was busy, is just that I.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Wasn't good at like my environment, the situation didn't lend
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: itself to calm. But also in the middle of all
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: of that, I was fucking chaotic, in the middle of
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: the chaos. So it's a real skill and it's a
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: real exercise in self awareness to actually be able to
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: see the space between what I am doing day to
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: day on an external level, and then how that is
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: impacting me day to day on an internal level. The
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: end spoken and authorized by Greig Kapa, Bobby and Tiff
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: are just sitting there not in no.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: I think that what you said is just critically important
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: because it's so many people today, because everyone's got this platform.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: They're all telling you about how you should work and
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: how you should organize your time. What time you need
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: to get up in the morning and just do fifteen
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: minutes of this, fifteen minutes journaling, fifteen minutes of a
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: cold plunge, you know, do forty five minutes of a workout.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: Just do you know, fifteen minutes of journaling. By the
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: time you're done, I got to get up at like
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: four o'clock in the morning. I'm not going to bed
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: until two o'clock in the morning because of all these
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: fifteen minute things. Oh but I'm not sure you get
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: eight out of hours asleep, and it's like a fuck off.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: I think you got to really understand who you are
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: and how you optimally function. And then there's the parts
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: of your life and.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Your work that are structured for you. If you're in.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Meetings all day, you kind of got to show up
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: to those you know, you've got clients, you kind of
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: have to be there. So for me, that helps me
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: get organized. Like if I have meetings in the day, okay,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: well that's pre structured time, and then.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I have my rituals that you got to be ferocious about.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: So you got a walk of time in the morning.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: But for me, if I didn't have meetings all day
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: to go, okay, well what am I going to do
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: from ten o'clock to eleven o'clock? And then what's my Actually,
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: my brain creatively doesn't work like that. What you just
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: said makes a lot of sense. I've got twelve things
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: on my to do list, which ten of these can
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: I not focus on right now? What are the top
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: two for today that have the highest level of consequences
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: if they're not done, and you know, the highest level
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: of positive impact if they are done. Now added these two,
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: what is the best use of my time right now?
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: Like right now, what do I need to be working on?
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: And obviously, if I'm in my time where my cognitive
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: functions not the all between two and five in the afternoon,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: that might change that answer. But I think from me
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: going okay, right now, here's the things I need to
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: do before I select priorities, let me identify.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Posteriorities, what I won't do with my time right now.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: What's left over, what's most critical, and then at once
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: that's done.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me reassess.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: If I had every minute of my day blocked out
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: in these fifteen minute blocks, I would be so not productive,
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: especially on the creative aspects of my work.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: So I love what you said there. It really lands
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, thank you.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about, like we've spoken about this many times,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: the idea of you know, obviously with the U project,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: my intention behind was that behind that was that, you know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: the biggest project I'll have in my life or biggest
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: management project is me, my mind, my motions, my choice's,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: behavior's outcomes, et cetera. And I used to with I
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: didn't do it initially, but then probably two or three
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: years into my personal training career, with nearly all of
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: my clients, we worked in twenty eight day blocks, so
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: we would every four weeks we would do an assessment,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: and they weren't the same assessments. It was an assessment
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: relevant to the individual right goals, needs, physiology issues.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: All of that stuff. But what we would do is
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: we would train.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: We would go through all the stuff and then every
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: twenty eight days we would reset, re evaluate, talk, try
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: and get some awareness, hit the pause button and go, Okay,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: this is what we've done for twenty eight days. Is
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: what we've achieved or not achieved. Let's change one or
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: two variables. Then we talk about the variables, right, and
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: there might be one food thing, one supplement thing, one
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: exercise thing, one lifestyle thing, whatever. I think, you know,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: because people love structure and process, and I think one
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: of the things sometimes with this show and lots of shows,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: is you get all of this data and all of
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: this information, all of these ideas, and you're like, yeah,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: but where the fuck do I start?
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Where the fuck do I start? And I was talking
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: with the Crab last night at the gym. The Crab
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: is my training partner, and.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: He said to me, I've like my heart rate, my
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: resting heart rate, which is usually in the eighties. He said,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: it's come down. It's constantly in the sixties now, like
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: sixty five sixty three. And he goes, and my blood
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: pressure is low, and I go. The problem with the Crab, though,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: is he tries fourteen new things every week. Right, So
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: we don't know what's working. He's always adding supplements. And
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about drugs. I'm literally talking about just
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: all of the crappy eyes online, which you don't know
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: if it works or it doesn't work.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: But he's always But.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: The idea, my idea is, you know, when we try
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: to figure out how we work, and we go all right, well,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: his apart from my day to day, my to do list,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: But over the next four weeks, why don't I try
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: this with my sleep or whatever, or why don't I
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: try this with my food and make one or two
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: changes that you are absolutely going to know this is working,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: this is not working, This is a good.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Idea or bad idea, and then you can build on that.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Because when we talk about how do I be more
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: efficient with my energy, how do I manage myself better,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: how do I optimize my genetics, it's such a massive
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: process and project. The very few of us are going
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to wake up in five years and go, fuck, I'm
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: incredibly improved and better and magically somehow. But I think
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: that idea of going well, I'm constantly tired. I'm a
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: bit of an overthinker. I really struggle with anxiety. Here's
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: maybe one thing that I will do absolutely every day
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: for twenty eight days to maybe help find some calm
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: because or to find some joy, or to you know,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: whatever it is. I just think that that idea of
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: actually being a little bit scientific, even if you're not
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: a scientist. You don't need to be sciencey, but just go,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: what's one thing that I can change? Because your body
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: will tell you. Your nervous system will tell you, your
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: energy levels will tell you.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: And so for people listening, go where the fuck do
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I start? Make a calculated, intelligent decision. This is a suggestion,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: and change one thing or two things, and don't unchange
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: it unless you get really adverse response, and then just
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: see what happens, because you might find a thing that
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: you go, fuck, I'm I'm five percent better when I
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: do this. Cool Now next month, build on that. What
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: are your thoughts on that, Tiff?
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: I have been doing that the last couple of years,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: with the with my energy and my hormone changes and
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: HIT and the supplements, and even with the suboptimal usually
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: advice from doctors when I'm given like when I was
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: put on HRT, I wasn't directed properly on how to
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: use the body stuff or what each substance was doing.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: And so recently I had progesterone increased and then I
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: had side effects from it, and then I had to
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: go and research myself, and then I had to figure
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: out and on top of that, I've looked at supplements.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: So I've got a lot of fatigue lately. So now
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: I've started having to write down the days that I'm
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: feeling tired to see if it's cyclical, if it's happening
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: at the same time each month, because it looks like
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: it might be, but I forget because I've got the
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: mind of bloody rabbit.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm doing it all the time.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: And now I've had to remove a one of my
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: sleep supplements that works really well at when I'm taking
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: progesterone because I think it's too much because I take
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Gabbat and gab is amazing for me. I go straight
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: to sleep, but I'm waking up tired and heavy in
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: the second half of my cycle when I'm taping progesterone.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean, how fucking interesting is that? And thinking,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: you know, like whether or not you understand your body
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: or your mind or your behaviors or whatever.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Everyone's got a body.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Everyone's got a nervous system, everybody's got a hormone or
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: an endocrime system. Everybody's got a respiratory in a cardiovasculars
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: you know, like we're all the sat we're all different,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: but we've all got the same bits kind of and
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: then we've all got a mind, and we've all got
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: a background. We've all got a bit of trauma, we've
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: all got a bit of excitement, we've all got goals.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: But it's trying to you know, especially on a show
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: which is essentially about self optimization on some level, right
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: then you know, to start to get a little bit
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: strategic and even as we've said many times, to record it,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: to diarize it, and then go, well when I do this,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: what's the outcome?
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Well? No change?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Cool, Well maybe you can fuck that off when you do,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: you know, like when I started, simplest protocol of all time,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: walk ten thousand steps a day, don't stop, don't do
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: it three days, don't go hey, world, I'm doing then
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: fucking give up. So since the day I started, which
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: is probably twenty months ago, I haven't missed one day
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: in twenty months. And overall for me, I couldn't really quantify,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: but I'm just going to say better better brain, better
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: energy generally speaking, except when I don't take my B
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: twelve because I'm fuck an idiot, yeah, Bobby, Or in.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: All seriousness, I've always wanted to be a shift worker.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: I know it's really bad for you, but I've always
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: wanted to just like sleep all day and work at
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: night and just see what the.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Impact would be.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Really Yeah, yeah, I know it's the worst thing you
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: could possibly do, and there's a lot of issues associated
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: with shift work, but I've done it a couple of times.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: So when I was younger and I was working security
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: in New York.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: This is prior to like getting into that fitness industry,
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: I was like eighteen years old, and a lot of
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: times I would do the overnight shift and I loved it.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: There was just something about it. I just love hours
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: of the day.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: When the rest of the world seems like it's sleeping,
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: like early early in the morning, four or five o'clock
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: in the morning.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I just love that. I look forward to that every
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: day and then like twelve one o'clock in the morning.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: It's brilliant.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: So I just I always wanted to experiment with that
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: for a few months just to feel what that's like.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: I probably feel like shit, but for me, there's something
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: very quiet, very self organizing, you know, just very peaceful
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: about that time.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: That is such a weird comment, but I'm interested.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, I did not expect you to say that
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: at all, like and simultaneously say, I know it's terrible
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: for you, but I would love to do this thing. Yeah,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I have no desire to do that. Could you imagine
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the fucking nightmare that you and I would be? Oh
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: oh oh yeah, But I do understand that nighttime stillness
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: and space and serenity.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Bobby, where you're just like, oh, I love this time
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: of the day. It's brilliant.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: And even when you know, we went to Rinkopec and
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: you had like three hours a day late maybe kind
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: of like one hour of twilight and the rest of
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: the time it was doc I just love the way
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: that felt.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Well, Iceland's pretty fucking beautiful as well. Oh my god,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: that that was one of the most magical places I've
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: ever been in my life.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you put your little finger up
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: in there, please share. Yeah.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: So I've got a friend who we do little voice notes.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Here's more like a podcast to me over a messenger
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: shout out to VICKI, But it's like catching up with
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: a friend when you don't have time to get on
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: the phone and catch up with a friend. So she'll
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: drop me a voice note about things going on in
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: their life, and I'll do the same when I have time.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: And it's awesome. She in the one that she left
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: me yesterday. She happened to be thinking about me coming
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: back from holiday, She goes, what have you? I was
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: thinking about you and India and are you going away again?
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Like you just had such great energy and what was
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: that all about? And I was thinking about at Christmas time,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: I put I replayed an old episode of one of
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: my guests, and I listened to it, and I was
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: talking about the year before when I went to Vietnam,
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: and I spoke about and I don't recall this now,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: but I spoke about Vietnam almost as passionately as I
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: felt when I came back from India. And it made
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: me realize how much or how important is for me
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: to disconnect and to go to places that are unfamiliar
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: and beautiful and around different people, but also how that
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: reset so when we're in the him malayas it resets
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: your circadian rhythm because by eight o'clock we eat food
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: around the campfire, and by eight o'clock I would sneak
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: off and go get in my tent and I would
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: go to sleep, and I would wake up, and I
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: would get up and I would walk and wait for
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: everyone to wake up. Like your body finds the rhythm again,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: because my head's not busy thinking and doing.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I think when you get away from the
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: thing that you spend most of your time in the
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: middle of, be that geographically, socially, professionally, but all of
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: a sudden, it's you in a part of the world
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: or country or whatever.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Where this is not your place, but fuck, this place
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: is good. Yeah, like this is yeah. Yeah, I think
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: when you're in the middle of that, the continuity.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Of the day to day, the groundhog dayanus of our existence,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: when you're just kind of in that flow or that momentum,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: swimming to the side of the river and getting out
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: of that and finding some space in a different space
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: is not always.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Easy to do.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And you realize how some of the.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Small things that don't matter we turn into things that
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: matter or we have to control too much in our lives.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I remember they would our lunch every day in India
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: and it would be a really like sometimes a sandwich
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: of whitebread sandwich with plastic cheese and shit. And it
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: was if you handed me that now, I would throw
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: it at you and go, I'm putting name in my body.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: That is grossest thing ever. We would get to lunchtime
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: and that was the most beautiful gift. I appreciated it
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: and I enjoyed it because my cup was full from
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: other things. I wasn't trying to fill my cup with
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: brownie or I was over control. I need to control this,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: I need to put this in my body. It was
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: just like, have a fucking sandwich, mate.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Do you think there's an inverse correlation between your spiritual
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: state and your brownie consumption?
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Bobby? I feel like you are in your happy place,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and it varies a bit. There's peaks and troughs.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: But when you're around people you love and and you're
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: on stage, or you're at a conference, or you're at
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: an event and things are going great and you're flying,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: which is most of the time, I feel like that's
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: you going.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: This is my purpose.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: My purpose is to teach and inspire and help and
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: support and empower people to be I feel like that's
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: that's your optimal energy giver almost yeah.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: Learning, yeah, teaching, rating, traveling planner, playing with ideas, being
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: around people that engage me. Absolutely, that is my happy
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: place them. I plug in to those value sets, the
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: happier and more fluid am.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember talking to them.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know who it was, maybe body or someone
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: about you and back in the day when you spend
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: about seven hundred days on the.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Road a year and we're like, how does this motherfucker?
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: And it's like at the end, you're better than you
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: were at the stop. It's like you're jorgonized. Yeah, right,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: when I was constantly on the road.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's exhausting when you get off a plane,
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: especially a red eye, because I cannot sleep on a
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: plane to save my life. So that day I'm just
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: walking around like I've been lobotomized. But once I get
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: some sleep and I get into that rhythm, I have
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: more energy flying around the world than I do waking
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: up in the same place and having a structured environment
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: day in day out, because that becomes a ritual in
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: and of itself, and it's just all of these things
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: that feed me. Although lately, and I don't know if
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: this is a consequence of how my environment has changed,
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Like I don't want to say join COVID but towards
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: the end of COVID to now, or if I'm changing intrinsically,
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: but I feel like I get more of a reward
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: from teaching small groups, not be on that stage, but
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: training and developing other people to be on that stage,
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: to be in that coaching appointment.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I feel like that drives me more than being the
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: person on stage myself. Lately.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's because in those more intimate scenarios where it's
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: you and ten people in a room or thirty or
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: five or whatever, there's more connection, there's more intimacy, there's
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: more I don't know, I feel like you're you're not
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: really delivering something, You're just connecting with people and interacting
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: with people. And like I think that, I think the
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: energy is very different in that situation to standing on
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: a stage being not performative but essentially doing a performance
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: or giving a speech, or where you can't be too
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: organic because you've got to get a job done. Yeah,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I think for me, one of the nicest compliments I've
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: ever gotten, and I know TIV has, and I'm sure
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: you have. But it is when people say I love
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: being around you, I love your energy. When I go
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: away from you, I feel more energized. And that's I
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: don't mean that sounds self indulgent or arrogant or because
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: doesn't get set a lot by the way, most people
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: are like your account, how do I get.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Out of here?
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: But those few yeah, yeah, yeah, oh you're welcome, thanks Dave.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, like you know people sorry,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: you know tif that people love being around you, like
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: you're like even the groups that you teach you your
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: training groups where you smash people, like nobody is coming
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: because it's fun. It's fucking horrible and you're a fucking
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: monster and take my money right, Well that's because of
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: your energy. Yeah, like that's And also it's not like, oh,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: there are no other training groups in Melbourne, or there
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: are no other gyms. Well, they're a fucking million and
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: in the middle of all of that, and it's not
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: like you're training in a seven million dollar complex. It's
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: not like you're at the AIS with unlimited resources. It's
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: just old school fucking brutality mixed with a bit of
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: sociology and a few laughs and a bit of silliness.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: But because you care about them and you love them,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: they'd love being around you, Like for me, if you can,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: if people want to be around you, just amongst other things,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: but primarily because like your energy is great. That's a
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: fucking gift. And there are some people that I know
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: it's like in I mean this with total respect, but
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: there's nothing really majorly spectacular about them where you would go, oh,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: she's a world class singer, or he played for fucking
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: the New York Jets or whatever it is, right, but
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: you just know when you're around them, it's fucking good,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Like it's not.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: There are some people that being around them.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, it's like wading through fucking
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: social quicksand God bless. And then there are other people
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: that're just like, fuck, I just want to bask in this.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: This makes me and it's nothing particular that happens. I
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: just walk away going I'd like to hang out with you.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Like it's like almost a fucking you know, a little
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: human pick me up?
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: What's that? What's the drug Prozac? It's like a fucking
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: human prozac sitting.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Down with energy is so important and it I was
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: talking about it with someone recently, like just the you
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: have to be so aware of it because the difference
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: between me when I am burnt out and aiming to
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: do what especially given the things that I do, is
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: I'm a different person if I'm well slept and I
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: have good energy. But you have to, I mean eventually
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: in your life apparently you have to realize that the
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: energy is not endless and you need to nurture it
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: and you need to do the right things like when
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: you're young that was an all the time stayed yes.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: And also being knowing now as a full ass alleged
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: grown up going I should probably not have this meeting
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: today every now and then, I should probably not do
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: these two sessions because I'm a two out of ten
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: and I'm definitely not going to be amazing to be here,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: and not that you need to be amazing, but it's like,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I know that I can't do my best for this person.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: So I'll pull the pin.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: We better stop, because we've been banging on for over
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: for an hour or so. Robert Capuccio dot com is
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Bobby's website. The self help antidote. Of course, is his
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: brilliant podcast, Roll with Punches is TIFFs podcast, which is
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: well over a thousand episodes. She is in rare air,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: She's just fucking flying, and she's off to talk to
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the masses in Queensland next Thursday with a stowaway.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. How do you feel about the stowaway?
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Is that? I feel like the stowaway could be a
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: fucking distraction. I don't know that he's going to be
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: particularly valuable, but who knows.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: He's not coming for the entire event.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: And as my speaker coach Jack mentioned on Facebook, he's
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: probably going to be better at reenacting this beautiful blowwave
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: that the hairdresser gave me yesterday than I would.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: So he might redeem himself. He might might be handy.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Oh you mean he's going to do your hair up there?
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: I reckon, I reckon. I've got to go to a
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: gala ball mate. I went frock shopping today, just saying, what.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Did you buy a frock? I did? Oh? Fuck? Describe
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: that to Robert Nye? What is this frock?
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Mate?
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: It is listeners.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: It is sequenced, all sequenced. I love it. I love
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: a good sequence. Got split.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: I bet it's got the shoulders cut out so everyone
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: can see your fucking massive debts, hasn't it? No?
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Do you want to know a story?
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Though this has happened on multiple occasions, Shout out to
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: the fitness, fitness, the fashion designers out there, who was shit?
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Or do you have any times I have gotten Oliver
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: almost died in the change rooms at Mayas because you
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: put a dress on and then you go to take
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: it off and my laps won't come out because there's no.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Zip or anything.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: You slip it over your head and then you've got
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: to get back off and I'm like, I'm never and
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: then sometimes I actually am sitting there.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I sit for five minutes kind of panicking.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Going, well, what now what do I do with this
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: dress worth hundreds of dollars that I am now stuck
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: in m That's.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Why I address this.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just put your tracksuit over the top and stroll
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: right out. That's what Bobby does. That's how he gets
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: his free dresses. I might suggest if that perhaps you
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: are the problem, not the dressmakers, because you are an.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Anomaly, you know from the back. Well I'm not saying
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: total dude, but well, you know.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Actually, until I started, you harps and then my left
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: The problem creator Bobby. Enjoy that wine and thanks for
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: coming to play. We'll say goodbye Affair, of course, but
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: TIV thank you for listeners. Sorry about that. We'll try
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: harder next time.