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Speaker 1: six forty.
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Speaker 2: i AM six forty Bill Handle here. It is a
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Speaker 3: As you know, California is fairly.
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Speaker 2: Unique, and there is a plan that's now moving ahead
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Speaker 2: towards a proposition in November, and it's a one off
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Speaker 2: wealth tax one percent. And this in addition to the
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Speaker 2: Feds they're doing trying to do the same thing, one
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Speaker 2: off tax of one percent on the entire assets of
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Speaker 2: a billionaire. And as a result of that, billionaires are
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Speaker 2: bailing out of California.
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Speaker 3: So let me give you some numbers here.
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Speaker 2: California has the highest income tax rate of any state
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Speaker 2: in the United States by a long shot. The top
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Speaker 2: state income tax is fourteen point four percent. If you
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Speaker 2: talk about all the taxes that are coming in and
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Speaker 2: what happens in other states, well, first of all, eight
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Speaker 2: of them have no income tax at all, which is
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Speaker 2: why billionaires are flocking to Texas and Florida, for example.
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Speaker 2: But what Flifornia does is not only tax fourteen point
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Speaker 2: four percent. Why is that because capital gains, which according
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Speaker 2: to the FEDS, are taxed at a much lower rate
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Speaker 2: than ordinary income. You and I working for a company,
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Speaker 2: we have ordinary income and we're taxed at ordinary income rates.
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Speaker 2: And if you make a good chunk of money, you
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Speaker 2: pay the FEDS what is it, thirty two thirty six
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Speaker 2: percent ordinary income and in California you pay the state
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Speaker 2: fourteen point four percent all in if you have if
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Speaker 2: you're making let's say a million dollars a year, which
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Speaker 2: I know is not a lot of people make that,
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Speaker 2: but the numbers are still very high even with a
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Speaker 2: graduated system. So let me tell you what the FED
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Speaker 2: rate is for capital gains. What does that mean? Billionaires
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Speaker 2: do not pay taxes on what they own. What they
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Speaker 2: pay taxes on is what they sell and what their
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Speaker 2: income is their salary. For example, Mark Zuckerberg pays income
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Speaker 2: tax on zero. He doesn't pull a paycheck. All he
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Speaker 2: does is sell property, and that is a long term
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Speaker 2: or capital gains tax, and therefore he is that the
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Speaker 2: capital gains tax rate, which happens to be fifteen percent federally,
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Speaker 2: and if he lives in a state where they don't
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Speaker 2: have income tax zero, so he's at fifteen percent. Companies
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Speaker 2: that are in states that don't charge income tax are
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Speaker 2: at twenty percent. California doesn't differentiate capital gains. You sell,
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Speaker 2: you buy, you sell assets, which other states either pack
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Speaker 2: tax at a very lower rate or not at all.
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Speaker 2: In California, it's all ordinary income. We don't care, we
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Speaker 2: don't care how you get your money. We're going to
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Speaker 2: tax the hell out of you across the board. So
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Speaker 2: billionaires are leaving. It's that simple because it is a
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Speaker 2: tax rate that is much much higher. So, for example,
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Speaker 2: you've got major billionaires that own billions of dollars of stock, Well,
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Speaker 2: you know they're not selling billions of dollars of stock.
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Speaker 3: What they do is they sell enough stock to live on.
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Speaker 2: So and usually a plane, an airplane that a billionaire
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Speaker 2: flies is owned by the company, so he's not being
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Speaker 2: taxed on that, or a ship is owned by the company.
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Speaker 2: Or going out to dinner, it's usually a company asset
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Speaker 2: or a company expenditure, so there's no tax on that.
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Speaker 3: Matter of fact, it's an expense.
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Speaker 2: So what happens if you have your typical billionaire who
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Speaker 2: pulls enough money out to, for example, to go to
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Speaker 2: Costco as an individual and throws his Costco card down
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Speaker 2: like I do, and buys and then I pay that off. Well,
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Speaker 2: the income that I make to pay off that Costco
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Speaker 2: bill is ordinary income. So in California, I'm taxed to
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Speaker 2: the max as you are. So as a result of
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Speaker 2: what where do you go? Well, you don't stay in California,
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Speaker 2: that's for sure. Now California has its benefits, and a
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Speaker 2: lot of people do stay here. Here we are in
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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. We're an hour and a half from the mountains.
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Speaker 2: We're twenty minutes from the ocean, depending on where you live.
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Speaker 2: We've got forests, we got deserts, I mean, we have
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Speaker 2: it all and a very large skill set of people,
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Speaker 2: which is why a lot of companies come into California,
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Speaker 2: Aerospace in particular. There's a reason why people are here
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Speaker 2: in southern California. But it's a tough decision to make.
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Speaker 2: It is not an easy decision to make at all.
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Speaker 2: And California, and here's another one. They have states that
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Speaker 2: don't charge income tax. So where do they get their money?
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Speaker 2: Property tax as high as California, gas tax not as
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Speaker 2: high as California, other taxes not as high as California.
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Speaker 3: So California charges the most.
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Speaker 2: Why is it that California can't run the state within
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Speaker 2: its budget? Well, because of the social programs that we
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Speaker 2: have that no other state has. For some reason, we
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Speaker 2: have a problem with the kids going to school or starving,
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Speaker 2: not going to school or starving. And as you know,
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Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, Marie Antoinette had the answer,
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Speaker 2: let them eat cake. There's no question about that. And
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Speaker 2: so I was considering doing the show. Since I do
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Speaker 2: most of it for my house, a majority of it,
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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't I move so I don't have to pay
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Speaker 2: California taxes? Although that's a complicated issue. So where am
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Speaker 2: I going to move to a state that has no
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Speaker 2: income tax?
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Speaker 3: Washington.
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Speaker 2: You want to throw yourself off a bridge during the
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Speaker 2: winter because you know se sunlight Texas where you have
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Speaker 2: to buy law you have to have a pickup truck
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Speaker 2: and a shotgun in the back window. You were going
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Speaker 2: to move to Nevada, Nevada, which is that I did
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Speaker 2: live there for a year, which during the summer you
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Speaker 2: walk outside the front door and it's as if someone
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Speaker 2: is in your face taking your hair dryer full blast
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Speaker 2: and full heat, and that's as you walk out the door.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Florida, which a lot of people move to.
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Speaker 2: Why would I move to a state that is full
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Speaker 2: of my mother old Jewish jentas.
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Speaker 3: That's the last thing I want to move to.
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Speaker 2: So here, I am in California, and I pay ridiculous
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Speaker 2: amount of taxes and well that's just the way California rolls.
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Speaker 2: Although our net increase in population, I think we're either
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Speaker 2: flat or we're down a little bit. If it weren't
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Speaker 2: for immigrants, we would be precipitously falling.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: The ongoing story was Stephen Colbert and CBS. He is
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Speaker 2: not backing down with his dispute with his bosses at CBS.
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Speaker 2: And this is the issue. What can air on his
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Speaker 2: late night show. So yesterday on his show, he said
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Speaker 2: he was surprised by a statement from CBS denying that
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Speaker 2: CBS's lawyers told him he couldn't show an interview with
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Speaker 2: Democratic Senate to candidate James Tallerco and that interview had
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Speaker 2: in fact been taped the night before. So he took
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Speaker 2: a copy of the network statement this is on the air,
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Speaker 2: wrapped it up in a dog poop bag, and then
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Speaker 2: tossed it away.
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Speaker 3: That's a statement, to say the least.
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Speaker 2: And so what he did is he showed his tall
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Speaker 2: Rico interview on YouTube and said he couldn't show it
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Speaker 2: on CBS. And he said why years why the network
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Speaker 2: was concerned about FCC Chairman Brendan Carr trying to enforce
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Speaker 2: a rule that required broadcasters to give equal time.
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Speaker 3: There's a rule on the books.
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Speaker 2: That says if a candidate goes on the air for
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Speaker 2: an interview, equal time has to be given by other
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Speaker 2: candidates that are in the same race. Usually you think
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Speaker 2: of Republicans and Democrats. Well, I got news for you.
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Speaker 2: If someone even applies for or decides that he or
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Speaker 2: she's going to run, sometimes it's two hundred bucks to
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Speaker 2: pay the fee to become a candidate, and if twenty
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Speaker 2: three people, do you remember when Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected,
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Speaker 2: do you know many people actually submitted applications fifty sixty
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Speaker 2: eighty and.
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Speaker 3: I interviewed him.
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Speaker 2: Could you imagine if I'd be forced to interview eighty
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Speaker 2: people because I interviewed Schwarzenegger.
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Speaker 3: So that's the rule. But here is what he said.
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Speaker 2: We looked and we can't find one example of this
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Speaker 2: rule being enforced for any talk show interview, not only
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Speaker 2: from my entire night career, late night career, but for
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Speaker 2: anyone's late night career going back to the nineteen sixties.
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Speaker 2: So here is the issue at hand, and this is
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Speaker 2: just the way the world works. Late night rips into
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump on a regular basis. I mean joke after joke,
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Speaker 2: rip after rip, And obviously the President does not like
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Speaker 2: people attacking him.
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Speaker 3: Brendan Carr is his chosen FCC chair.
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Speaker 2: The FCC heretofore and historically is somewhat independent. The President
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Speaker 2: stays away from FCC decisions as a president stays away
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Speaker 2: from the OJ decisions or ICE decisions or any other
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Speaker 2: or the FED stays away from those quasi independent agencies.
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Speaker 3: Well, certainly didn't happen with Brendan Carr.
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Speaker 2: He has gone after I mean with a vengeance, after
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Speaker 2: anybody that in fact rails on the president. And so
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Speaker 2: why would CBS? Why would CBS do it and cave
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Speaker 2: in instantly? Well, because the network is owned by Paramount
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Speaker 2: and Paramount Global is in the middle of trying to
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Speaker 2: buy Netflix, and if the bid is accepted, needs the governments,
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Speaker 2: okay to make that trade, to make that buy. Oops, wow,
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Speaker 2: we need the government. The government doesn't like CBS or
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Speaker 2: doesn't like Stephen Colbert. CBS says, okay, you can't do
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Speaker 2: this anymore. Now, CBS is canceling Colbert. He is off
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Speaker 2: the air in May, and they're sa saying it's because
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Speaker 2: the show was losing revenue, was losing viewers, as is
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Speaker 2: every television show out there. I mean there used to be. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna now blow my own horn. All right, here
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Speaker 2: we go. I'm looking in the mirror.
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Speaker 3: Bill. You're one special guy. Bill. I am so proud
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Speaker 3: of you.
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Speaker 2: I was lucky enough in the mid eighties to have
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Speaker 2: a sixty minute segment on my legal practice because I
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Speaker 2: had the weirdest you know, the surrogacy practice. I was
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Speaker 2: one of two lawyers in the world doing this, I
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Speaker 2: mean just fell into it. That's it was completely serendipitous.
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Speaker 2: There were that night, that Sunday night, thirty five million
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Speaker 2: people watching sixty minutes. And by the way, that was
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Speaker 2: not an extraordinarily viewed show. It's not like a super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: It was just your normal audience for sixty minutes. Today,
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Speaker 2: if they get four or five million, it is a
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Speaker 2: home run because there's so many different ways of watching
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Speaker 2: and getting information, and so revenues have dropped. Certainly, you've
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Speaker 2: got a listenership. Viewership has dropped. Same thing happened here
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Speaker 2: at KFI, same thing happened at virtually every other radio station.
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Speaker 3: Listenership is way down.
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Speaker 2: So do I believe CBS canceled because of revenue because
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Speaker 2: it was losing money? How the hell do I know?
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Speaker 2: Because internally you can do anything with numbers. You know, statistics,
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Speaker 2: There are lies, there are bigger lies, and then there
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Speaker 2: are statistics, and that's the way life goes.
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Speaker 3: So we'll see what happened.
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Speaker 2: By the way, I believe Colbert way way over believing CBS,
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Speaker 2: that's for sure. So the equal time rule. Incidentally, it
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Speaker 2: has not been put into effect yet. Car has not
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Speaker 2: instituted yet. Just the fear of him instituting it is
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Speaker 2: making companies like CBS cave completely. There's a new book
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Speaker 2: that is coming out called Pickie, and it's written by
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Speaker 2: a historian, Helen Vate, and describes the way famous nineteenth
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Speaker 2: century in the eighteen hundred and eight is kids, What
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Speaker 2: do they eat?
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 2: Edith Wharton, a very famous author, ate oyster sauce, turtle
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Speaker 2: stewed celery, cooked tomatoes, lima beans and cream. Mark Twain suckotash,
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Speaker 2: which I love, by the way, string beans, squirrels, rabbits.
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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Katie Stanton, another very famous writer, ate vegetables, hickory nuts,
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Speaker 2: and cold jellied brain.
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Speaker 3: That was a big one during those days.
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Speaker 2: And so this historian, Helen Vate, looks at why kids eat,
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Speaker 2: why they're picky eaters. And a lot of parents have
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Speaker 2: picky eaters. I have two daughters, one of which is
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Speaker 2: a goody, foody Pamela, and Neil knows her who will
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Speaker 2: eat and try anything and cook everything. She's a real foodie.
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Speaker 2: I have the other one and Barbara, who still will
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Speaker 2: only eat chicken chicken nut nuggets, and mac and cheese.
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Speaker 2: And she's thirty years old, thank you very much. So
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Speaker 2: this is a little bit of history I wanted to
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Speaker 2: share with you. Kids' foods picky eaters. Foods weren't picky
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Speaker 2: until the early twentieth century because before that, look at this,
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Speaker 2: and this makes sense, Heat writes. Children in the United
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Speaker 2: States ate spicy relatives, vinegary pickles, wild plants, a huge
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Speaker 2: variety of animal species, and organ meats, raw oysters, fennel seeds,
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Speaker 2: tomatoes were considered treats. So the idea that kids are
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Speaker 2: naturally naturally neophobic or wary of new tastes as a myth.
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Speaker 2: Eating like a child actually during the eighteen hundreds was
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Speaker 2: once understood to being excited and undiscriminating about food, not
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Speaker 2: just being picky.
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Speaker 3: It has turned around one hundred and eighty degrees.
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Speaker 2: So she talks about kids eating jellied brain, and it's
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Speaker 2: all switched in the macaroni and cheese.
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Speaker 3: And here's why.
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Speaker 2: Back in the eighteen hundreds, the American kids used to
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Speaker 2: be hungry at meal times.
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Speaker 3: They were more.
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Speaker 2: Eager to eat anything. And before the twentieth century, kids
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Speaker 2: did hours of chores before and after school, and so
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Speaker 2: they worked up a good appetite and they would eat anything,
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Speaker 2: and no snacks between meals either. Processed foods were not available.
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Speaker 2: Parents tended to be confident the kids could learn to
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Speaker 2: eat most adult foods. There really wasn't kids foods, And
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Speaker 2: if a child didn't like a given meal, okay, and
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Speaker 2: wait for the next one. Okay, you don't like lunch,
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Speaker 2: wait for dinner. No refrigeration either, so food had to
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Speaker 2: be eaten pretty quickly. So as kids became less active
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Speaker 2: and we moved into cities and more families bought cars,
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Speaker 2: much walking, so fewer kids walked to school for miles
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Speaker 2: or performed farm chores. I did that growing up in
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Speaker 2: Los Angeles, walked four miles to school, all of it
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Speaker 2: uphill and where I worked on the farm. So didn't
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Speaker 2: happen anymore, does it. Milk became safer to drink, and
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Speaker 2: food experts began to see milk as essential, which didn't
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Speaker 2: happen before.
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Speaker 3: Then.
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Speaker 2: You had public health campaigns encouraging parents to serve their
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Speaker 2: kids easily digested food, eggs, Broughts, Gruel, and nutrition experts
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Speaker 2: had no knowledge of germ theory, so they claimed that
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Speaker 2: rich and flavorful foods were the culprits for kids getting
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Speaker 2: sick all the time, and so prior to the forties
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Speaker 2: and fifties, the guidance standard was just to let food
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Speaker 2: refusing children go hungry until the next meal. And you
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Speaker 2: had Benjamin Swack experts on kids in the fifties saying
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Speaker 2: kids instinctively choose a healthy diet on their own, which
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Speaker 2: is a croc and arguing without evidence, parents who urge
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Speaker 2: kids try a bite of fish might make them hate
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Speaker 2: fish and turn them into picky eaters, and so life
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Speaker 2: has changed completely. Picky eaters are really a manufactured concept.
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Speaker 3: It is not true. And I was one of those.
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Speaker 2: I was not a picky eaters, although my thing was
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Speaker 2: I couldn't take onions for some reason, and then I
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Speaker 2: became a huge onion fan. And I remember as a kid,
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Speaker 2: my mother would say to me, and this is typical,
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Speaker 2: you have to clean your plate. You can't leave food
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Speaker 2: on your plate because kids were starving. In this case,
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Speaker 2: it was Asia right after World War Two. It was Europe. Well,
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Speaker 2: by the fifties, they were eating in Europe, but Asia
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Speaker 2: and kids were starving. So kids are starving in Asia.
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Speaker 2: You have to clean your plate and not leave food.
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Speaker 2: So what ended up happening? I clean my plate, I
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Speaker 2: got fat, the kids still starve. It didn't help whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: And there I was, and I hit three hundred pounds
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Speaker 2: at one point in my life to make sure that
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Speaker 2: starving kids ate. Now, it took me a while to
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Speaker 2: figure out, how is it?
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Speaker 3: Probably? What is it about? I eat here and they
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Speaker 3: don't eat there? Because that's the way life works. Schmuck.
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Speaker 3: Did they say eat clean everyone's plate? No? Oh, that's
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Speaker 3: very funny. I know.
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Speaker 2: I would go to restaurant and I still do. Neil,
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Speaker 2: I do this to you. I go to restaurants and
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Speaker 2: I'll go past someone and I go, hey, are you
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Speaker 2: going to finish the rest of that burner? I actually
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Speaker 2: do that, and sometimes I can laugh, and sometimes I
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Speaker 2: get these weird looks saying no. Or I'll say if
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Speaker 2: someone's about to leave, someone's about to leave food on
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Speaker 2: their plate. Hey, kids are starving in Africa. You can't
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Speaker 2: leave food on the plate.
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Speaker 4: Hey.
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Speaker 3: There's a thing.
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Speaker 2: Going on which I don't understand Wall Street Journal. And
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Speaker 2: it's a getaway, no hikes, no tours. It involves one
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Speaker 2: activity sleep. So let me get this. You go to
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Speaker 2: a resort and the entire point of going to a
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Speaker 2: resort is to sleep. There's a story about this woman,
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Speaker 2: Caitlin Rosatti, who went to one of these resorts, went
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Speaker 2: to a hotel that actually did this, and there was
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Speaker 2: a sleep package, CBD gummies in the room, skincare products,
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Speaker 2: bath bombs, weighted blankets, lavender eye masks, and let's not
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Speaker 2: forget the pillows too, bamboo, charcoal, memory foam, C shaped,
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Speaker 2: full body, honey combhole, adjustable height for next support down,
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Speaker 2: qualifil whatever.
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Speaker 3: And you go, why why would you do this? Now?
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Speaker 2: I can imagine you taking a week off for a
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Speaker 2: few days to sleep.
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Speaker 3: I get that, But what are you gonna do?
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Speaker 2: You're going to fly someplace, check into a hotel and
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Speaker 2: go to sleep. Explain that to me when you can
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Speaker 2: just lock your doors, unhook your phone or disconnect your
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Speaker 2: phone and basically tell everybody leave you alone, pull down
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Speaker 2: the shades and sleep.
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Speaker 3: Now. I can understand room service. I can understand.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I see there's some some benefit to this,
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Speaker 2: but I mean, give me a break, Neil. How far
21:48
Speaker 2: would you go for a sleepcation? You cannot know what
21:54
Speaker 2: I would do, but I do get it. There was
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Speaker 2: a time where gosh.
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Speaker 4: We had a massive storm and I was in Las
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Speaker 4: Vegas a couple of years ago and I couldn't get
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Speaker 4: a flight out, I couldn't get anything out, and I slept.
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Speaker 4: I just slept in the hotel and didn't leave, and
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Speaker 4: it was kind of nice. I think we end up
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Speaker 4: tiring ourselves out during vacations or traveling.
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Speaker 3: I do when we come back exhausted and I want
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Speaker 3: I'm one of the people.
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Speaker 2: I'm one of those people that don't go to resorts.
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Speaker 2: I am not interested in going to a beach someplace
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Speaker 2: in Cancun or in Thailand. We have plenty of beaches here.
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Speaker 2: I want to see. I want to sight see, I
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Speaker 2: want to experience. And I come back from vacations more
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Speaker 2: tired than when I left.
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Speaker 3: But that's the way I do it.
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Speaker 2: That's traveling. Yeah, that is you and I have got it.
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Speaker 2: You have you and I have done it. And it's
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Speaker 2: warm tonight. And let me tell you. Let's say the
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Speaker 2: power goes out or you can't get a flight out
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Speaker 2: and you are there with your partner four days. This
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Speaker 2: is why God invented sex. Okay, this is why you
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Speaker 2: do that. Okay, not particularly sleeping, although in my case.
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Speaker 2: Everybody I've been with I thought was sleeping. But that
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Speaker 2: is a different topic for a different place. Okay, I
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Speaker 2: wish it was.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Uh yeah.
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Speaker 2: How to stoop when you think your partner has uh
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Speaker 2: sleep apnea? No, not sleep apnea, although that helps. What
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Speaker 2: am I looking for? Necrophilia? That's you? No, uh, never mind? Epilepsy? No, oh,
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Speaker 2: dark elepsy. I thought see epilepsy is fun. Okay, that
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Speaker 2: is that sex on the first order. Okay, your partner
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Speaker 2: having epilepsy, oh yes, yes and screaming at the same time,
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Speaker 2: That's okay. I mean it'll fool you. It'll fool you
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Speaker 2: every time. What I'd love to see? What topics get
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Speaker 2: Kono excited? I'd never say he hasn't laughed this loud
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Speaker 2: in a million years. But you start talking about a
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Speaker 2: partner with epilepsy and he's in I mean, you have
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Speaker 2: to admit, you know, uh, never mind. We're not gonna
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Speaker 2: do that, are we? A f I am six forty
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