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The Inventing Heiress w/ Nicole Byer (Fraud Friday) · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's popping Congregation is your girl, Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
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  Speaker 1: older episodes from the scam Goddess Bault. That's right, Fraud
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  Speaker 1: Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from
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  Speaker 1: behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall,
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  Speaker 1: and as always, stay scheming Scaled, Come.
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  Speaker 2: Rubby and froll Scam, Come Robby and froll.
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  Speaker 1: Dam Goddess. What's popping Congregation is sugarl Lacey mostly aka
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  Speaker 1: Scam Goddess, and guys, I'm so I always say what
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  Speaker 1: we say is saying with me. I'm so excited for
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  Speaker 1: today's guests, but for real, y'all. Okay, this is the
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  Speaker 1: first time that we've had a repeat guest. Uh the
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  Speaker 1: one the only I think for the whole season, this
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  Speaker 1: will be the only repeat guest. Guys. She is the
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  Speaker 1: Emmy nominated hilarious queen, one of the amazing hosts of
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  Speaker 1: Nailed It. You love her podcast, Why Won't You Date Me?
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  Speaker 1: You love her podcast? Best friends, you love her and
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  Speaker 1: everything that you freaking see. This is Nicole byer guys,
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  Speaker 1: what's up? Nicole?
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  Speaker 3: Lazy. What a beautiful intro. And I love that you
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  Speaker 3: tell people to say things with you because I would
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  Speaker 3: love to see someone like in their car just being
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  Speaker 3: like just talking with you, feeling themselves.
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  Speaker 1: I love it, right, I feel like, especially now, podcasts
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  Speaker 1: are like you're just kind of talking to yourself, So
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  Speaker 1: I want you to feel like I'm talking bag Like,
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  Speaker 1: what did I'll say, y'all so crazy? We just had
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  Speaker 1: a moment, so y'all get to keep that. Well. We've
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  Speaker 1: talked about scams, Nicole, and your relationship with scams, and.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes we talk.
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  Speaker 1: I remember you tell me that you've you've fallen for
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  Speaker 1: some scams, right, have I fallen?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I fall I scammed. We talked
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  Speaker 3: about me scamming my dad.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we did talk about you scamming your dad.
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  Speaker 1: I found there was a scam that you fell for.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I was wrong, Maybe I was wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I don't remember. And I'm trying to rack my brain.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I just bought a shitty bike from a
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  Speaker 3: shitty company, and I think that was a fucking scam
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  Speaker 3: bikebury dot com. I got very drunk and was googling
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  Speaker 3: bikes and you know, they paid for those ads to
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  Speaker 3: pop up first, so I clicked on that paid for
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  Speaker 3: d I found this purple bike that like said it
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  Speaker 3: was a cruiser, but then I got it there was
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  Speaker 3: a hole in it. So then I took a picture
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  Speaker 3: there was a hole in the box, and I sent
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  Speaker 3: that picture to uh the company, and they were like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: the thing that's poking through the box was there just
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  Speaker 3: in case there was damage to the box during shipping.
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  Speaker 3: I said, well, I don't know if I really want
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  Speaker 3: to open the bike and like figure out other stuff
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  Speaker 3: wrong with it, and they were like all right, And
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  Speaker 3: you know, bad on me for not reading the return
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  Speaker 3: policy where it's like you pay for the ship and back.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how much shipping is for a fucking
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  Speaker 3: bike on my sad, you know, it's probably probably it's
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  Speaker 3: a heavy it's like seventy I don't know, not seventy pounds,
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  Speaker 3: sixty pounds, forty pound, I don't know. And then you
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  Speaker 3: pay like a fifteen percent restocking fee. And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm still gonna be out like fifty sixty maybe
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  Speaker 3: eighty dollars on this two hundred dollars bike. I might
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  Speaker 3: as well just put it together. Put it together. This
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  Speaker 3: thing is so fucking yanky, like the gears just twist around.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't put it together. I can't do that shit.
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  Speaker 3: I had a.
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  Speaker 1: Man, did you put it together? I was about to
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  Speaker 1: be like, okay, this is that was a scam right there.
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  Speaker 1: You put the bikes together.
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  Speaker 3: Had a man put it together, and he was like
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  Speaker 3: he followed the directions to a tea and we could
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  Speaker 3: like the gears just spin. It is such a shitty bike.
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  Speaker 3: So then I post about how shitty it was and
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  Speaker 3: they're like, well, we started a return for you, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, but I also told you I
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  Speaker 3: was gonna open it and see how it was. And
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  Speaker 3: I opened it and this is a piece of shit bike.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very entitled to that opinion. And I'm like, so
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  Speaker 3: now you want me to disassemble it, but this fucking
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  Speaker 3: shitty ass bike back in the box. You want me
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  Speaker 3: to pay fifteen percent? No, I'm just gonna donate it.
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  Speaker 3: Jacobaizaki was like, you should donate it, and I was like, oh, yes,
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  Speaker 3: so I might be able to use the frame because
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  Speaker 3: the frame isn't bad. The wheels are bad, the handles
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  Speaker 3: are bad.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you were saying donated to a place where
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  Speaker 1: it was like gonna be some little key ridding this
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  Speaker 1: yanky ass bike. I was like, to go that right?
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  Speaker 3: Imagine are you donated to like kids Anita bike and
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  Speaker 3: then they die on this Bikebury dot com bike.
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  Speaker 1: Also, I feel like a bike is something that most
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  Speaker 1: people buy in person? Am I crazy? I feel like
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  Speaker 1: this is very ambitious of you to like buy a
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  Speaker 1: not a do it yourself bike.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know it was very ambitious. I thought
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  Speaker 3: I was getting a good deal, but you get what
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  Speaker 3: you pay for. John was like my roommate was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you have to go sit on the bike. See it
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  Speaker 3: in person. I su Okay, all right, I give up.
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  Speaker 3: I'll go. I'll go sit on a bike another day.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the right choice because look, I won't
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  Speaker 1: even do a sour dough starter. So you are very brave.
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  Speaker 1: You are very brave to buy a whole bike in
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  Speaker 1: a box.
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  Speaker 3: It's my bike and it's a bike and my box.
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  Speaker 1: Oh goodness, let's get into what's hat and fraud. I
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  Speaker 1: need to name Nicole for this person.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 1: This person probably identifies as a woman, but I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: You can it can be any.
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  Speaker 3: Name you want in the world. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I love that You're really giving this a lot of thought.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you just just a name, just a name for
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  Speaker 3: a person. Okay, let's call her Teresa. What a basic
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  Speaker 3: fucking name you did? I think all that time, and
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  Speaker 3: I came up with Teresa. No, she'll shah Shamikha. That's
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  Speaker 3: my cousin.
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  Speaker 1: I like, I know some Shamika's. They're nice, most of them.
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  Speaker 1: They can fight. Can your cousin fight? Does she does?
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  Speaker 1: She look like you can fight.
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  Speaker 3: I think Shamika could take you on on a fight.
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  Speaker 3: She's tall. Oh, okay, she's a tall woman.
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  Speaker 1: I've never met a Shamika that couldn't fight. So that's
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  Speaker 1: just something they're skilled that. Okay, it's nothing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 1: So Shamika says, I did this scam a decade ago
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  Speaker 1: when I was a young, broke adult and it worked
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  Speaker 1: out well at the time. Okay, she says, in my
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  Speaker 1: state home state of Montana, Shamika. Okay, Shemika's definitely white.
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  Speaker 1: I just looked at the Google photos said also, she
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  Speaker 1: said my homestate of Montana, and that made me shoot
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  Speaker 1: my eyes back up to the photo because I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: is there black in Montana?
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  Speaker 3: I went to Billings, Montana once, and to get to Billings, Montana,
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  Speaker 3: I think I flew to whatever their capital is or
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  Speaker 3: whatever their big city is, and then got on the
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  Speaker 3: tiniest fucking plane to get to Billings and the black
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  Speaker 3: flight at ten. It looked at me as I got
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  Speaker 3: on the planet said honey, you going to the right place?
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, well, she's asking I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Then I got there and I was like, m now
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  Speaker 3: I know why she was. She was worried about this.
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  Speaker 1: We started smiling and blinking and the tears came out. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: She was like no, no, no, no, no, yes, she was no, no.
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  Speaker 3: No, get get off the plane, get out.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you went to one of those towns
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  Speaker 1: where like they have a population sign and then it
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  Speaker 1: like goes up when you get there.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, uh huh, goes right back down when I left
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  Speaker 3: the next day.
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  Speaker 1: Were you there for work or something?
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  Speaker 3: Why were you?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: I was doing a show at a college.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: College shows have truly taken me to the wildest, most racist,
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  Speaker 3: smallest towns I've ever been to. And it's funny because
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  Speaker 3: they hired you. Correct now now, I'm you are very.
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  Speaker 1: Funny and you're very talented and very beautiful in the cold.
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  Speaker 1: But part of me wonders if they hired you because
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  Speaker 1: they were like, this is our one chance to lay
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  Speaker 1: eyes on a black person. We're gonna have to pay them,
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  Speaker 1: but they will come.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of campuses are pretty liberal, like you'll be
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  Speaker 3: smack dab in the middle of like Confederate flag country,
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  Speaker 3: like I was in Arizona, got off the plane tons
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  Speaker 3: of Trump flags. This is in twenty fifteen, and like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Confederate flags. I saw like a people of
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  Speaker 3: Swastika somewhere and then got to the campus and it
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  Speaker 3: was like hippie dippy people with like neon hair, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck did I do. It's
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  Speaker 3: so it's like once you cross over into the college,
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  Speaker 3: they're like higher learning, we're inclusive, we want to love everybody.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, but also maybe it is just to see
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  Speaker 3: a black one one time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it was because you're very funny, but also
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure afterwards they were like, Wow, that's what it's like, guys,
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  Speaker 1: a black person.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, did you do meet in person?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I usually do meet.
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  Speaker 1: They got the tar you.
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  Speaker 3: They did. They did, And one college a woman gave
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  Speaker 3: me lotion and I was like, is this a dig?
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  Speaker 3: I was like, am I? I guess I'm notoriously ashy.
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  Speaker 3: I always post pictures and I look so ashy. And
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  Speaker 3: it was a white lady and I was like, oh no,
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  Speaker 3: if they know, no, not.
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  Speaker 1: If they know. Look, white people don't know about ashes.
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  Speaker 1: They don't know about it. But I will say that
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  Speaker 1: Jaquith says that it's racist when people don't have lotion
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  Speaker 1: in the bathroom because black people need lotion after they
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  Speaker 1: wash their hands. So maybe maybe she was just trying
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  Speaker 1: to help you out.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe she was. She was like, there's no lotion
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  Speaker 3: in Billings, Montana. Not one Walmart carries a single drop
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  Speaker 3: of lotion, Like we do you a favor. White people
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  Speaker 3: do need lotion.
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  Speaker 1: They do, but they don't know that they need it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you know what, now it's their chance, y'all lotion.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody needs it, Yes, everybody. Wait, here's the indication. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be indicative if she was
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  Speaker 1: being shady. Was it like a fragrant like a nice lotion,
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  Speaker 1: or did she give you some jargons?
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  Speaker 3: No, it was actually very nice lotion. I cannot say
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  Speaker 3: the name of the company. I've been laughed at before.
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  Speaker 3: Uh leok, looks, oh my god, yep.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, listen. I didn't know either. I had
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  Speaker 1: a boyfriend in college and he spoke fluent French and
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  Speaker 1: one time I was like, oh, I love Tanguxit.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, luxitumb that's so I'll never fucking
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  Speaker 3: remember that name. Luxititong what a treat, luxad.
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  Speaker 1: It really rolls off your tongue. Though you're giving me face.
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  Speaker 3: It, do you remember it? Well?
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  Speaker 1: No, that she was showing a flegs. She went and
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  Speaker 1: got you some good lotion.
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  Speaker 3: I think that was a shade.
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  Speaker 1: That was a shade.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, she was being nice, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So back to Shamikha, who was definitely white. She says,
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  Speaker 1: in my state of Montana, we have a quit line
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  Speaker 1: you can call for free anti smoking items like gum
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  Speaker 1: and patches. I took it upon myself to call the
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  Speaker 1: quitline and have the short conversation about my smoking habits.
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  Speaker 1: They agreed to send me the patches and every two
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  Speaker 1: weeks I need to have a fifteen minute conversation with
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  Speaker 1: them to check in on how I'm doing. That's interesting
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  Speaker 1: to me because it's like, if people want to quit,
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  Speaker 1: then why do I need to? Like they're like, ohky,
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: yeah you want to quit. So how was this week?
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  Speaker 1: How many cigarettes did you have? How much to like,
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  Speaker 1: how much tobacco did you lick on? Like what is
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  Speaker 1: this conversation? Lick up?
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  Speaker 3: Well, quitting is very hard. I've tried to quit smoking,
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  Speaker 3: uh no less than four times, ten times, one hundred times, uh,
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  Speaker 3: and it's hard.
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  Speaker 1: I will say that I was never into smoking cigarettes,
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  Speaker 1: but for a four month period, I was jeweling like
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  Speaker 1: I was a fifteen year old.
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, you just puff on them inside. It was
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  Speaker 3: that's so wild that you weren't a smoker, but you
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  Speaker 3: were like, but jewel, I'll do that me because.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we do comedy and we'll be outside of
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  Speaker 1: bars and shit afterwards, and you know, you have a
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  Speaker 1: few drinks and then people would be like jeweling and
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like sometimes back in the day, I would
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: like buma cigarettes. So it wasn't like a big deal
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  Speaker 1: to like, you know, do that. So I was like, oh, shure.
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  Speaker 1: Then I was like, oh, it's not sanitary, just like
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  Speaker 1: puff someone else's jewel. I'll just go grab my own
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  Speaker 1: for whenever, and then I mag up, and I kid
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  Speaker 1: you not, Jewel pods everywhere, like fucking chargers everywhere. And
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know when I had become this person. I
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  Speaker 1: had a jewel charger in my car, so I really
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  Speaker 1: want to plug it in my car and keep the
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  Speaker 1: jewel charged all day. I had no idea that I
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  Speaker 1: was so ridiculously addicted to it.
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  Speaker 3: So the commercials are real when there's a team that's
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  Speaker 3: like it started with one puff and next thing I
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  Speaker 3: knew my life revolved around jewel.
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  Speaker 1: I was sucking dick for jewel, Like.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's when times it was rough, when you
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: were sucking dick for a cigarette or a jewel.
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  Speaker 1: They're not cheap either, and those pods are not cheap.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: How much are those pods those pods? Depending on what
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  Speaker 1: story you're going to, some stores will really rip you
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  Speaker 1: off and they'll be like thirty five for a four pack. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then some places it's twenty seven for a four pack.
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  Speaker 3: Damn. You know, I missed the days you could share
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  Speaker 3: a cigarette with a friend or drink after a friend.
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  Speaker 3: Never again, Never again. We was fucking nasty now, like
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: you know, like now that I think about it, like
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: I kind of like wearing a mask, especially like working,
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  Speaker 3: because like people get so close to you, to mike you,
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  Speaker 3: and now it's so nice that like we're not breathing
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  Speaker 3: on each other.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's great. I also think it's a wake
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  Speaker 1: up call to people who had hot ass breath and
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: we can never tell people that they breath hot, and like,
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  Speaker 1: can we normalize telling people that their breath as hot
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  Speaker 1: as fuck? Cause there's people sending my eyelashes off and
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: now I know they gotta smell that they got to
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  Speaker 1: have it for nil.
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  Speaker 3: Not just right back up. And there I was at
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  Speaker 3: a protest and I was like, oh no, I think
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: I have bad breath. And then so shere was like
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: did you walk? When's the last time you washed your mask?
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: And I was like wash. But now I'm in it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in the game. I realize it's like clothing, you
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  Speaker 3: gotta wash it every couple days. So I'm in it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I've had I've had to go out with funky
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  Speaker 1: mask once or twice and I was like, this is
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  Speaker 1: fucking torture.
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  Speaker 3: It's awful, scarce.
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  Speaker 2: God.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so, oh my god, I've never admitted am
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  Speaker 1: I gonna maybe I'll cut that out. About the jewel thing,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ready to tell you guys
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  Speaker 1: that I was doing that, but I was, I was.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I'll be honest.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you don't have to. Don't do joel if
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  Speaker 3: you don't want the information out there. I rarely talk
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: about smoking because people look down on you so much
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, just quit, it's not good. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: you don't think. I know we're in a pandemic and
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: I'm hiding in my house because I'm more susceptible to like,
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  Speaker 3: I have bad lungs. I know, I know what I've
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  Speaker 3: been doing.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And it's like and people, but that's what. Maybe
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: this will be a cautionary tale for someone out there. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: don't jewel. Don't jewel, it's bad.
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  Speaker 3: Don't jewel. Don't start.
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  Speaker 1: Don't start, No, for real, don't start.
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  Speaker 3: It's like I had to learn how to smoke. I'm
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: not an inherent smoker, so I would like sit in
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  Speaker 3: my garage and like inhale and then caugh and then
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: slowly inhale halfway hold the other half in my mouth.
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  Speaker 3: It was why for what? And now it's you know,
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: twenty dollars every couple days just iking get my little
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  Speaker 3: fixed up. It's a thank you, Big Tobacco.
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  Speaker 1: That's a scam, right, oh, the biggest, one of the biggest.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy that Big Tobacco also pays for all the
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: ads that warn you about cigarettes, because that's like do this,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: that's like they're rule, Like there are a thing with
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  Speaker 1: the government is like Philip Morris, like they have to
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  Speaker 1: pay for those ads.
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  Speaker 3: They pay for the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, with the little black kids like I would never
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  Speaker 1: smoke because I can't let my hood down. And now
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: we about to dance play basketball? Why are those commercials
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: That I mean, yeah, black commercials. Sometimes I'm like, who
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: did this? Was it a black person or is this
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: a white person projecting what they think black culture is.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: If you want to see a TV show where you
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: can very much tell where everyone on it was white
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: who was writing to the black people? I highly recommend
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: In the Dark. I think that's what it's called on Netflix.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: That's the show about the blind woman who becomes a detective.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: They don't even sound right.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: But I'm not being ablest, but maybe I am being ablest.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: I feel like that would be just a real uphill
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: bad it is.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: And that's why the show is fun to watch, because
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: you're watching her like she's impressive, but then she saw
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: in the murder of her her little black friend who
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: saved her once from a mugging. But he's a drug dealer.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: But like he's clearly a British actor. And the whole
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: thing is written by white people. You can just tell
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: that they never they'd never heard of drug dealers before
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: they did. They probably watched the wire a little bit
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: and we're like, I can do that.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I once did a McDonald's commercial where McDonald's, you know,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: perhaps to them, they have a whole website for black people.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: It's called McDonald's three sixty five and they and it's
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: like they talk about black history all year round, but
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: I because they know. But I did this voice over.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: It was me and uh two or three other black women,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: and I don't remember if I had auditioned for it,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: but they were like, all right, let's go for it.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: And my line was don't steal my French fries. So
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I said, don't steal my French fries and they were
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: like can you And then I was like, sass it up.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: And then the other women laughed and I was like,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: don't steal my French fries. And then the other women
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: sounded just like me and they were like a girl,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: that's my call.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it in a French frag year.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: And then after all three of us did it like that,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: the whoever I guess it was whoever, like the producers
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: or whatever the buyers, were like, Okay, let's just go
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: back to your normal voices. And I was like point made.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I like, I love that we made that point because
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: it was like, if you want a minstrel show, that's
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: what you can have, or you can have like just
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: three black women talking.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: It was why I'm gonna take that with me because
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: that is an excellent not Who's also like, why are
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the lines like y'all getting robbed in your bet? Don't?
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Because I know you like to stay Yeah, I know, Yabby,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Like what why are you getting robbed in this commercial?
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: So shir has a pretty good joke about it. I
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: can't remember. It was like the Black Blinds to Go
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: where it was like you can't see in my house.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: It was based on a commercial. And then I have
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: a joke about McDonald's and how my God. Sometimes they're
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: just like my baby daddy took me to get a
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: mc rib and I was like, they both back, and
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: You're like, what the.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Fuck they go back? I'm leaving, I have to go home,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm at home. So, guys, what a wild tangent.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: But to wrap up Shamika White Shamika's letter, uh huh. White,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Shamika says after she would have her conversations where she
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: talked about how hard it was, and actually we just
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: talked about how hard it is, and so I understand
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: these conversations now, she said. I received all three stages
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of patches, not sure how many in total, but as
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: soon as I got them, I put them up for
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: sale on eBay, and I had no problem selling them
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: for thirty or forty dollars a box. I know I
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: made a few hundred dollars doing this, and eventually I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: just ignored their calls and quit getting the patches. I'm terrible,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: signed Shamika. Just in case you forgot what we were
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: talking about when we went on these tangentsmily I did.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Shamika maybe never smoked cigarettes, or if she did, she
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: didn't quit, or she just called the quit line, got
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the very expensive free quitting materials, and then she went
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: to eBay and she slanged them.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't knock the hustle. I really don't.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Shmika, I fucks with you, I think in Montana, Yes.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Get a Shamika. I think Shamika is an entrepreneur.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, she's a what do they calling you? A woman? Entrepreneur? Arepreneur?
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I thought we had a word for that, do we were?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: We just put her in it or something.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: A entrepreneurpreneur, entrepreneur truly sounds like something wrong with like
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: a hernian a disc. Yeah, oh chip my disc.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, it's not very motivating. We don't we
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: don't need that one. So this is my favorite segment
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: of the show, Historic Hoodwinks, where I will regale Emmy
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: nominated Nicole Byer with I just have to sprinkle it
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: in like seasoning a little.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Bit, because honestly, it truly is such a wild thing.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Who would have thought I would have? Who would have thought?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Black Queen? I love it. So I'm gonna regale her
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: with the historic hood wink and we're just gonna get
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: her thoughts and opinions along the way. Uh. Today we're
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: talking about a man named Jonathan Walton ad on American
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Ninja Warrior. That's that show where the athletic people hurt themselves. Yeah,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and they do an obstacle course, so you watch it
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: hoping that they fall.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: So he was conned out of nearly ninety thousand dollars
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: by his best friend. Gonna put that in quotes Mayor
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Smythe mayor claimed to be a royal Irish heiress waiting
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to inherit five million euros.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: So wait a minute, if I ever met somebody, if
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I ever met somebody who was like, just see you know,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I'm an heiress and I'm gonna inherit five million dollars,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, so you good with money? I don't
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: have to give you shit, right, good, you're about to
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: get it.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: But I'm about to get it though, girl, Like I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: just need the texts and fees.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: No, don't worry about it. You can pay for all
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: that once you get your inheritance.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you some things that
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: are gonna make more sense as to why maybe this
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: worked on him. Okay, So the first time that John then,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: who was forty five, met this woman who became his
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: best friend and turned into his worst enemy. Obviously, she
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: was offering to help with his building's pool. So Walton
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: lived in a Bunker Hill apartment complex in downtown Los Angeles.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Where is bunker Hill here?
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know where bunker Hill is.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: But it says downtown LA. I don't live down there,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: So it says they lost access to their stunning pool
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: amid a dispute with another building. These are a Champagne problems.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: So we're like, we lost the pool. Also, what do
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: you mean to dispute with another building? Y'all was fighting
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: that building. I really want to imagine people punching brick,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: but I know that's not what's happening. So when Walton,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: an earnest and animated former news reporter, held a meeting
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: about the incident in his living room, about thirty people
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: showed up because they're trying to get the pool back.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Guys, I guess.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: So that meeting is where he met forty something year
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: old woman with jet black hair in a pixie cut. Ooh,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: she's a manic pixie dream girl who soon took charge
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: of the conversation. She was dressed in pastel colored clothes. Shoes,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: then looks high end and she spoke with the slightest
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: trace of an accent, which I'm assuming is an Irish accent,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: which is a hard accent to do.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, did you just like a trace of I would
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: think it's harder than just fully getting.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Into it like Charms. The only think, Oh.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Listen, I want the pool to come back. I don't
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: whoop whoop wood.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: That was really good. That was better than anything I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: could do. I literally went to They're magically and delicious
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: like I could never they stole me like a Charms
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and took away at my pool. Well this worked. Also,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like he must have equated her with just
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: casually wearing pastels as someone who's like rich. I'm trying
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: to think, I don't see a lot of people, just
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: like unless you're at Coachella, you don't just see people
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: who are walking around in full past not like had.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: To tell it pastel. But now I'm thinking about maybe
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: I got to get more pastel in my life, right?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Is that how I shall people? I'm a real fancy hose?
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Is I mean, like I got manny, I'm wearing lavender?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe because I really don't see it that often, so
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: She said during her conversation where she had taken over
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that she was a luxury travel agent and her boyfriend
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: was a prominent real estate lawyer. She said that she
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: had sued their own apartment complex a couple of times,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and one, oh, how do you ever needed to sue
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: your apartment? Well, I mean you live in a house,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: but when you lived in an apartment, did you need
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: to sue them?
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: No? No, no, no no. Although my landlord, oh maybe
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I talked about this last time. My landlord was running
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: a scam, so he was like, you can give me
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: or the super your rent. And then a couple of
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: years down the line, there was a note on the
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: building that was like, do not let Lewis in the building.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: He was in buzzling money. And then in the paper
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: we were like, oh shit, Yeah, he was like in
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: buzzling money and send his kids to private s which
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I was like, you know.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: That's nice, that's a nice for the children.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: You know, that's nice.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: We need to children, let them lead the way.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, but no, I've never had to sue my apartment.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I know pay rent. I never paid rent on time.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: This is the first time in my life where I've
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: paid my living expenses on time because it comes out
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: of my bank account.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: All right, because it's like auto withdraw. Yeah, I'm childish.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I won't do that. And I know that I could
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: withdraw forever and I'd probably be fine. But I every month,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I just get the email and I begrudgingly go over
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: there and like hit the payment button. And I don't
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: know why I do it. I think I get like
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: high from it. Sometimes I'll wait because I only get
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: till the third. I don't even get till the fifth
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: before you get a late fee. So I'm like, you
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: only get to the third third, girl, they don't play
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: my apartment in New York, when I finally moved out,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I would also never pay rent on time.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I would pay like three months at a time. After
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: the three months, and then when I finally moved out,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: they were like, your last month of rent is due.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: And I was like, that's why you bitches have secure
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: and they're like, no, the security's covering all your late fees.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't live here no more.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: So I this is beautiful.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: You really are scammering. She was like, that's why you
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: got that deposit, but byye mate, so she's very charismatic.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: She's bantering with the neighbors. She sued the building a
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: bunch of times. I imagine her going to like Judge
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Joe Brown suing the apartment building. I hope that's where
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: it happens, and her story is that she in time
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: would also mention that she was palsed with Ashley Judd
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and show him a closet full of allegedly thousand dollars
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: designer shoes and share that she had a psychic gift. Now,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking. If you met somebody and
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: they were like, hey, I'll be sawing my apartment building
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: every other Thursday. I own thousand dollars shoes. Ashley Judd
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: is my homegirl, and also I'm a psychic. Like, if
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you heard all of that at one time, you would
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: be like, bitch, what's going on.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I would be like, I should stay away from this
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: fucking person. This is too much.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: But they were friends for four years before she scammed him.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Honestly, bravo, this is bravo. What a long time, right.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I was very impressed. So I get how over the years,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: if you have a casual conversation like my homegirl would
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: be like girl. You know I'm a Brewha, and I
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: wouldn't think that's crazy. I was like, yeah, you're a Brewha.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But I know her for years. I was like, sure,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you're a Bruha. She hasn't asked me for ninety thousand
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: dollars yet, but beware right, but she has showed me
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: some nice clothes. She is friends with some famous people
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and she's a Brewha. So technically I already know somebody
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: like this. I'm just saying. She worked it in a way.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, all seems legit seems normal. So she
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: unwound her story over many many meetings, like we were
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: just talking about. And later on, in a visit to
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: her apartment, Walton glimpsed at a small frame printed on
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: what Smith said was the Constitution of Ireland. So it's
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: her last name is Smith. So he looked at this
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: frame and then he was like, what is this And
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: he was like, oh, this is the Constitution in Ireland,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: you know, casual hanging in my living room. She said
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: that her great uncle had signed it, she explained, pointing
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: out his signature. Later she said that the same great
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: uncle had just died and stood to inherit. She's sit
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: in hear it part of his twenty five million dollar
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: euro or excuse me, a million euro inheritance, which is
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: about twenty seven point five million dollars. So, in keeping
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: with her image as a wealthy and worldly heiress, she
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: occasionally showed Walton texts and emails from her friends, like
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Ashley Judd, whom she had met in college. Ashley, I'm
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: so sorry.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, truly that her name is dragged all over this.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Also, like, is she like relabeling somebody's number in her
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: phone Ashley Judd and texting her fribably?
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: But also what a wild person to peck? No shade
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: to Ashley Judd, but she's not well, I guess honestly,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: what a smart peck because she's not super famous. But
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: like we all know Ashley Judd's name.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Well, didn't Harvey Weinstein her career? I think that's why
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Ashley girl. I could be absolutely wrong about that. Let
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: me say allegedly allegedly, and by allegedly, I mean I
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: thought that. But last time I came on here and
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I said that Michael Jackson's song at the end where
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: they go Mama Sam and Masad Mama Gusa, I was like,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: it's actually words. Guys, that means I'm gonna keep going on.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop. I'm gonna keep going. I definitely
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: don't that was true. And they're like, no, it's not.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: That is I love that you just up on here
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: lying of people. People be telling their friends facts that
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: they learned from Lacy, and then they're like, girl, that's
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: not it. That's no, she's lying to you.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: That the scam facts are true. Guys, we researched. I swear,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: but anything that I say off the cuff could be
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: a lie. But it's not a lie. I believe it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I remember that's how the truth works. I taught y'all.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: That that's what I honestly believe.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: So due to her family's money, she said that she
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: didn't need a job, but preferred to keep busy working
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: for luxury tour operators uh sure, Pacific Islands dot Com,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and later as a psychic. In the time Walton knew her,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: she also had several plastic surgeries, including what he recalls
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: as a nose job, a breast enhancement, and some LiPo section.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: So she's an LA girl. Yes that watch gating lip fillers.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Uh huh, y as you do she's a housewife. I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: love it, not mad at all. So they have this
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: really close friendship. He opens up to her about his
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: family and about his sexuality and how some people didn't
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: accept him. She understood how painful alienation from family members
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: could be, she said, revealing that her cousins were trying
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to get her disinherited the draw so she showed him
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: nasty texts and emails from these cousins, especially one named Fenton,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: who occasionally wrote in Gaelic. Walton was enthralled with the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: family drama, so she basically was like, I wouldn't be
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: surprised if this was like all the plot of several
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Tyler Perry movies that she is see put some irish.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do my own. I mean, Tyler doesn't take
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: too much time to produce them. I think she took
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: more time to produce a Tyler Perry movie than Tyler
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: takes to produce his own.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Produce these emails.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: You might be right, and I'm not being shady, because
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: he very quickly shoots seasons in the matter of weeks,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: and he does which is wild.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: And I know actors who work for him, and they
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: work very hard, like shout out to.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Y'all because long days, long long.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Days, and wigs, the wig, wigs on wigs on wigs,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the wigs. Just if if you could manifest struggle into
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: a hair piece, those wigs, they're rough, right. So basically,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: she moves to a new loft and they call each
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: other all the time, tell each other that they love
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: each other. So now let's get into her inheritance. By
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: April twenty fifteen, homegirl had come to Walton with tears
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: cascading down her face, asking for a loan. So the
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: first loan that she got was for forty two hundred dollars.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Then she came back and says she needed another fifty
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars to pay rent at her new loft,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: which is crazy because she had an inheritance.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Right, yes, And she's a psychic, so she didn't see
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: it coming, and she didn't move before she couldn't afford
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: to pay it.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: She did not move before she could afford to pay it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, it out.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: She said that her great uncle's will contain a clause
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: stating that anyone with a convicted felony would be exempt
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: from the will. Walton voiced his fears of Smith, his
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: cousins might frame her to push her out of the wheel,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: so this is what. So in twenty fourteen, walton speculations
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: seemed to come true. He received a collect call from
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: a detention facility that Smith had been arrested on charges
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that she had stolen about two hundred thousand dollars from
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Pacific Islands dot Com, which is the travel agency that
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: she worked for. So she basically sold this is like,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: my cousins are setting me up. That call that you
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: got from jail, that's fencing in them. Was it in Gaelic? Yeah?
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I mean this is exhaust Honestly, the amount of work
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: she put in, she could have just gotten herself a job.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: This is work. This is work. That's the thing about scamming.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: People think scamming is not work. Scammon is an employment.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: It's a profession. I'm honestly upset that scammers can't get
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: unemployment right now because they have been self employed. And
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you know, that's something we need to work on. They won't.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: They need they stimulus too.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: We need scam.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Stimulus for robbery. Okay, how are you gonna be doing
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: robbery when everybody in their house?
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Truly, I was just thinking that the other day, I
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: was like, how do you rob a house if everybody's home.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: So just like hairdressers can't do hair in person, robbers
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: can't do their normal robberies exactly. So everybody's really hurting
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I feel for I feel for my I really do.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: So come back to She's crying to him, like, I
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: need this money. I gotta go down to the attorney's
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: office because they done froze my bank accounts. The LA
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: District attorney froze my coins up because they think that
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I did this robbery at this job that I definitely
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: worked at, But really was my cousins who had set
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: me up. But for some reason, the jail called you.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: But really it was my cousins who had put me
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: in jail from Ireland. This makes sense.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, the favor that he felt for that is
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: so wild.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: She was thrown a lot of him at once. It
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: was probably a lot to process.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and he's like, but that's my pastel friend.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Right, and she he came out to her about his
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: lifestyle like she accepted him, so they had an emotional relationship.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: So it makes sense. So he wrote her a cashier's
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: check which those are the checks that go.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: That's money that's liquid.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: So he agreed that. She said when she regained access
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: to her bank account or received her inheritance, she would
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: pay him back. In the meantime, she moved back into
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Bunker Hill Towers for a relatively cheaper rent. With a
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: case still ongoing, she asked him for another thirty eight
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars the next month for rent. Over the year,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: as it passed on and dragged on, with Walton receiving
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: frequent updates, she was still asking him for money. So
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: in September twenty sixteen, she finally came and just really
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: got the bag. She said that, Hey, they're gonna give
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: me a plea agreement for this money that I didn't
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: steal from my job, that my definitely my cousins had
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: framed me from a different country. Great agreement. I'm getting
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars and served jail time, but I'm gonna
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: need fifty thousand dollars from you.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: And this man gave her fifty thousand dollars, he forked
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: over nearly sixty thousand dollars. Yeah, and he also loaned
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: her two thousand dollars for the lawyer to help her
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: avoid eviction, because then she wasn't paying rent. Then what
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: was she spending the money on. This man needed to
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: ask questions. I would be like what how, No, he
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: didn't ask a s So he just had sixty thousand
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: dollars laying around. This man is a smart man to
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: have that much.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Cash, Like, well, he worked at TV, so you know
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: he might have been getting the checks.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, damn.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: And he that's why he believed her. He believed that
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: she was going to repay him. But one day during
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: her February twenty seventeen sentence, when Walton logged onto the
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: jail's website to schedule a visit, he clicked on her
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: profile at the La County Sheriff's website and he noticed
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: something strange. She had been charged and convicted with a felony,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: so she was trying to avoid eviction. She eventually did
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: have to go to jail. And then when he was
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: going to go see her, probably put some money out
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: her books for some ramen noodles and stuff. Mm hmm.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: He looked and they were like, yeah, she was convicted
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: of a felony. Felony like she was doing crime crime.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: So he took a day off work, traveled to the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Airport Courthouse near lax to drop the records on her case.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: When he started looking through the records, he realized that
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: everything that she told him was say it with me, guys.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: A lie.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: The plea agreement meant that she had pleaded guilty that
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: her bank accounts had never been frozen. They weren't frozen,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: they just were empty empty. I'm gonna start telling you
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: my bank account frozen if they't no money in there.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: That's it, basically is the bank won't let me make
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: transfers anymore because they said it's no money in there,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: so they stopped. They froze my transfer they frozen.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: So if you want to, you know, paypoun me some,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: you want to venmo me something so I can get
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: my transfers back up. That's my god, that's excellent.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Wordy. If you would have been on me money so
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I can get my transfers back up, that's the phrasing.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: That is excellent phrasing for I don't have no money,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: send me money so I can start spending money again.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. So her plea agreement was for forty thousand dollars,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: not fifty and it included one hundred and eighty day
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: jail sentence, later reduced to thirty days. Oh god. So
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: basically she skimmed him. She's like up. She was like,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I need fifty thousand dollars so I can get this
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: time served. But then she just kept a little ten
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: so she could get her transfers back up. So she
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: was like some for.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: The court, some honey, some for me.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: On the day of the release, he picked her up,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: which I'm like, bro, why.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Are you even still fucking yeah, why are you still involved?
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Because I think he was trying to get his money back.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: So he was like, he's been lying to me this
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: entire time about everything. The next day he filed a
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: police report a legend a total theft of seventy five
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Right. Walton's landlord shared that Homegirl also was
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars behind in apartment payments and had delayed
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: them further because she says she had cancer and that
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: her disability insurance wasn't arriving on time. She was running
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: all she my god, where was the money for rent gone?
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Because remember he helped her with an eviction lawyer quote
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: unquote two thousand dollars.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Well that's how she had that expensive shoes and shit,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: she was just buying stuff.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: She just can't buy shoes.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: She's funny.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I love her. They were like, man, we're gonna put
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: you in the street. She was like, okay, but I
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: really need these lubatants. Also, my cancer hurts right now,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: so I might cancer.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: HER's so bad, I better go buy a shoe. That's
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: the cure.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't actually talk about this right now because
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: ooh that was my cancer. Okay, so I'm gonna close
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: the door now, bye bye. So background checks reveal that
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: she'd also been charged with writing bad checks, fraud in
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Tennessee in Florida, grand theft, among other counts. She was
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: also doing san andreyas I love her, Yes, And then
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the jury found that Smith was guilty of grand theft
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and sentenced her to five years in jail. So this
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: is on top of one hundred and eighty days that
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: she got from robbing her former employment. She did end
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: up having to go to jail for robbing her homeboy.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: And man, there's a lot to unpack there that we
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: just don't have time to pack. You guys unpacking in
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: your cars wherever you are. But this irishwoman is a queen.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: I love her.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: That's like, over the course of four years, you still
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: eighty thousand dollars. That's pretty good. That's twenty a year.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: That's nice. Tax free, that is twenty thousand dollars a year.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: That's like pretty decent. And I'm sure that's something only scam.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: She was running on people.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Obviously rent scam, she had grand theft, she had like
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: her whole life was a grip.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: She doing it. She's doing big thing.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: So for Scammer of the Week, we just want to
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: highlight a king, a Floridian, a Florida man. You know,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: if you really just want trash, if you really just
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: went and I can say that I lived in Florida,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: it's okay for me to say that a Florida man
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: bought a one hundred and forty thousand dollars Porsche with
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: a check that he printed from home on his computer. Y.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how people will think of stuff
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: like this.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: But also the dealership was like, ah, it looks right,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: but what look?
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Times are hard. They trying to sell all these motherfucking Porsches.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: They say, anybody want to come in here. He yes, So,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: forty two year old Casey William Kelly. I love that
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: he has three first names. That's what I'm talking about. Robbery.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Was charged with a grand theft of a motor vehicle
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and uttering a false banknote. According to the Walton County
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office, he allegedly handed over a cashier's check that
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: he printed from his home computer to buy the car.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: The car was later reported stolen to Okaloosa County sheriff Office.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: So he so, also we just talked about in the
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: last story, like you do a cashier check. That's as
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: good as cash pretty much, if it looks real, if
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: it looks legit. So this is what he did. Shortly
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: after purchasing the German luxury car. Authority say that Kelly
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: then attempted to buy three Rolex watches. He was long
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: later at he said, where my printer at? Get the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: ink jet?
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: That's been so funny. That is so fucking funny.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: He handed over a fraudulent check for sixty one thousand
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: dollars to a jeweler. However, the jeweler kept the watches
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: until they could determine if the check would clear. See
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: because jewelry you know he's a white man. Pole.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Don't fuck with jewelry because jewelry goes up in value sometimes,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: so like like a vintage Rolex, those go for like
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: a like a ton of cash, so smart on them.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: But also with the car, I would have done a lease.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: I would have given them a fake address. I would
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: have done. I mean, you probably had to put some
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: money down, so you get the fraudulent check for that,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: give him a dummy address, and then never park the
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: car near your house and be like, I don't know
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: That's a good one because then it's also like they
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: might contact you like, oh, this check didn't go through,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: but you we got this liase set up, we got
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: all your infolt, and then you could drive it around
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: for longer. He's just straight up like stealing it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, Now I have the perfect plan. Okay, so we
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: get a fake driver's license with your picture, different name,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: different address, because I don't think they do any sort
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: of background checks. So if you can make fraudulent checks,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: write that check for the down payment on the lease,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: how will they get to you? They can't, They can't
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: find you, and then the bank is on the hook
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: because when you lease a car, the bank buys the car,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: you pay the bank, so you are literally out of it.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Everyone go out there and print your cashier's check. Immy
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: nominating Nicole Buyer has taught you how to do this scam.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: That was her ted talk. It was free for you
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and for me. I just I think also the jeweler
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: probably caught on because jewelers deal with criminals all the
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: time time like, oh yeah, jewelry, Like you're buying three
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: rolexes for what for? What for? Why for hell? So
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: you know what? But shout out to a three first
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: named king, Casey William Kelly, because I don't even know
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: how you thought to print out a cash is check
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: at your home. Probably been sitting inside too long coronavirus.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: She was like, I could print out catch your check
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: from home.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Or maybe he saw Catch Me if you can that
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: movie with Leonardo DiCaprio running all them scams, and he
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: was like, I can do that.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I'm cute listen, and he did and did he did
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: get the car off the lots. So I'm proud of
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: this king, but we too, we have reached the end
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: of the show.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Nicole Lazy, thank you so much for having me back. Honestly,
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: it's just a treat to talk to you is thank
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: you for being here.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Seriously, Wait, where do you want to be found?
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I'm hopefully engaged with a nice man. Uh No, you
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: can find me on Instagram, Twitter at Nicole Bayer. I
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: have other podcast Why Won't You Date Me? Best Friends
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: ninety day Patreon, drag Her with Mono Agapia, where you
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: talk about drag race, Newcomers with Lauren Lapkis where now
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: we are watching Lord of the Rings and good fucking lord,
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: that movie's a scam. They're too fucking long. They should
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: have been broken up. But yeah, you can just Oh
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: and I have a book, Very Fat, Very Brave. It's
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: a self help guide for fat women. But if you're
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: a thin and you have low self esteem, I guess
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: maybe you'll help. I don't know.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: What a sales pitch there. You hate yourself? No, no, no, no, that.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I can help you your thin self hate and bitch.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: No I'm kidding no no, no, no, no no.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: But it's a good book for just confidence in general.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's got like little comebacks if someone insults you.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: The main takeaway of the book, I'll just tell you
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: I'd prefer if you bought it is like if someone
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: says something about your body, it means you're powerful because
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: that person had to stop their day to tell you
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: something and you never thought once about them.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, uh I love that. Yes, guys, very fat, very brave,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, all the things you have? So many
• 46:00
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• 46:04
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• 46:30
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• 46:32
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• 46:34
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• 46:37
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• 46:49
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• 46:53
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