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#057_Unfiltered Conversations About Science, Culture, Success, Philosophy, Life, and the World We Live In __Luis J Gomez · INSPIRE STORY

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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast
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  Speaker 1: by night.
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  Speaker 2: All day.
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  Speaker 1: From the special, and then I just fucking fell off.
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  Speaker 2: I had a margarita at dinner once, and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, I'm back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll do it. It's just that one. You think
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  Speaker 1: I'll always have one.
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  Speaker 2: It was nice. I was drinking too much. you know,
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  Speaker 2: owning a club there all the time, you know, how
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  Speaker 2: much everyone's like, you want a shot? You want to drink?
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  Speaker 1: I can imagine when I'm at your club, I get
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  Speaker 1: blackout drunk every time, like an actual problem. Like I
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  Speaker 1: walked down the stairs. I'm like, what the fuck just happened?
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  Speaker 1: I drink so much at the mothership. Austin in general.
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  Speaker 2: Are we on? Are we rolling? Yeah. The problem is Shane.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. He's an animal. I don't know how he
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  Speaker 1: does it. I did the Bridgestone arena with him on
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  Speaker 1: Friday night. Uh, I mean, first of all just insane
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  Speaker 1: like 20,000 people right I mean fucking it's nuts Saturday
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  Speaker 1: night I did 95 people at the Dojo of.
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  Speaker 2: Comedy is that the first time you did a big
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  Speaker 2: one in the round in the round yeah the round
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  Speaker 2: is like oddly intimate isn't it because everyone's facing each
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  Speaker 2: other yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You can it's pretty cool it feels like it's a
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  Speaker 1: club around you on the bottom you kind of like
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  Speaker 1: it's so funny because people get like so in their
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  Speaker 1: head they're like dude it's all these people it's crazy
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I performed to half-sold-out comedy clubs. Do you
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  Speaker 1: know how much more nerve-wracking it is to make eye
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  Speaker 1: contact with your fans that are disappointed that they're in
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  Speaker 1: a half-sold-out room than 20,000 people that are just there
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  Speaker 1: to be like, fucking Shane!
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  Speaker 2: It's one of those things you just do it a
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  Speaker 2: couple of times and it gets normal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like all things.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like all things.
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  Speaker 1: That's more fun, dude.
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  Speaker 2: It is very fun.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's so much more fun. It's very fun. Just
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  Speaker 1: so you guys know, I would way rather perform to 20,000
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  Speaker 1: people than 100. I just want you to know that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a unique idea, but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, 100's good too, though, because 100 really shows you
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  Speaker 2: if your bits are bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, 100 shows you the weak links in bits.
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  Speaker 1: You see them checking their phone.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's in you feel it. Yeah. You feel like
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  Speaker 2: you're delivering them horse shit. You know, you feel like
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  Speaker 2: you're not appreciating what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Of course. And I think it's also like, it's such
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  Speaker 1: a spectacle when you go to like an arena where
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  Speaker 1: it's like people are like, so lit and pumped to
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  Speaker 1: just like be there. They're so happy.
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  Speaker 2: They're so excited.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how Sabrina Carpenter just came up in
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  Speaker 1: my feed from Coachella, little hot child. And she's like,
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  Speaker 1: that's all my algorithm is now is Sabrina Carpenter.
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  Speaker 2: My daughter loves her.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah. My girlfriend loves her.
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  Speaker 2: She's got some good jams. That Espresso song, that's a
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  Speaker 2: really good song.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Man Child.
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  Speaker 2: She's got some songs.
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  Speaker 1: That's my shit, dude. It's become my shit. I never
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  Speaker 1: heard any of her music before this past week. But
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  Speaker 1: it's the Coachella stuff has all been showing up and
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  Speaker 1: like I'm watching these girls watch Sabrina Carpenter. They're so happy.
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  Speaker 2: So happy.
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  Speaker 1: Like nothing– like they're like just having the best moment.
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  Speaker 1: They're like these 16-year-old girls. They're like, fuck, it's Sabrina Carpenter.
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  Speaker 2: That's why like people got to chill on things that
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  Speaker 2: they think suck. Because it's just not for you, man.
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  Speaker 1: And that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay. Spending all your time dwelling on things
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  Speaker 2: that aren't for you is so crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's a crazy thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's such a waste of time.
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  Speaker 1: It's internet culture. That's what it is. The internet and
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  Speaker 1: social media became a thing where we gave everyone a voice.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone has to have an opinion. Nobody wants to admit
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  Speaker 1: they're wrong. And they have to have a hot take.
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  Speaker 1: Everything that happens within minutes. Not even a moment to
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  Speaker 1: let me reflect. Let me just do a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of research. Let me just look up a couple facts.
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  Speaker 1: They just jump into whatever their opinion is. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the same thing when it comes to like entertainment and
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  Speaker 1: all– you know better than anyone. I was talking to
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  Speaker 1: Jamie before. Like you and Tony have become so big
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  Speaker 1: that it's become like– like it's like culture. It's not
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  Speaker 1: even like– like I know you guys. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying? So it's like– but it's like when I
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  Speaker 1: remove myself from it, it's like you guys are as
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  Speaker 1: big as Sabrina Carpenter. Like having a conversation about Joe
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  Speaker 1: Rogan going to the White House or Sabrina Carpenter at Coachella,
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  Speaker 1: that's trending shit. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And people feel like they have to come out and
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  Speaker 1: just give their opinion on it right away. If you
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  Speaker 1: don't like it, don't like it.
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  Speaker 2: But that's also like if you don't want people to
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  Speaker 2: have their opinions on you, don't go to the White House.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great point.
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  Speaker 2: I don't fault them for getting whatever, whatever hot take,
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  Speaker 2: getting mad at me for whatever reason. Go ahead. That's
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  Speaker 2: your thing. You're allowed to. You're supposed to. Like if
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  Speaker 2: you're a comic, too. You're supposed to shit on people
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  Speaker 2: if you think they're doing something stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you get offended when comics shit on you? No.
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  Speaker 2: Never? No. I mean I'm in this weird zeitgeist thing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get offended. Some of them I think it's
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  Speaker 2: lame because I think I know them. Like I'm friends
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  Speaker 2: with them.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And they're like using me to get clout. Like if
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  Speaker 2: you really had a problem with me, you could just
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  Speaker 2: text me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you really– Felt like I was an
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  Speaker 2: anti-vaxxer and I was endangering people's lives. Fucking text me, bro.
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  Speaker 2: You know me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird. It's weird when people do that. And maybe
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  Speaker 2: they feel like an obligation, even though they know you,
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  Speaker 2: to speak publicly. There's a lot of people that feel
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  Speaker 2: like they have to use their voice. Like when something
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  Speaker 2: is wrong, they have to come out and say it, which.
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  Speaker 1: It's also boredom.
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  Speaker 2: I understand the inclination. I understand the inclination. And people
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  Speaker 2: will tell you that, that you need to use your voice.
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  Speaker 2: And if you feel like you need to use your voice, okay.
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  Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is there's far too many people
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  Speaker 2: out there dwelling on things they do not like versus
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  Speaker 2: things they like. And this life is fucking short. I
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  Speaker 2: am 58 years old. I'm almost 59. That's dead. That's
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  Speaker 2: old as fuck.
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  Speaker 1: You got 20 years. Best case scenario.
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  Speaker 2: Right. If everything goes great, what are those 20 years like?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm holding it together. Thanks to Ways to
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  Speaker 2: Well and my obsessive need to work out. But other
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  Speaker 2: than that, man, I feel it. I feel it slipping away.
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  Speaker 2: It's gone out.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. I'm 44. I just turned 44 a couple
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago. And like best case scenario, like absolute best
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  Speaker 1: case scenario.
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  Speaker 2: Midlife.
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  Speaker 1: Midlife.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, best case.
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  Speaker 1: My aunt has never worked out a day in her life.
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  Speaker 1: She's 89 years old. She's just a fat old Italian lady.
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  Speaker 1: She eats whatever she wants. Yeah, I think that's the move, man.
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  Speaker 1: It might be, dude. Why am I so obsessed with
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  Speaker 1: trying to get in shape and eating right and doing
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  Speaker 1: all this other stuff? My fat aunt just does whatever
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  Speaker 1: she wants, and she's an old Italian lady. She's just
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  Speaker 1: going to– she's– As young as I've ever remembered her.
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  Speaker 1: She's so with it. It's so funny to me.
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  Speaker 2: I've vacationed in Italy a bunch of times and I've
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  Speaker 2: gone to these little small towns. There's always like a
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  Speaker 2: really nice restaurant in this little small town. You have
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  Speaker 2: to take like a van up into the hills.
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  Speaker 1: You're on like a cliffside with no guardrail.
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  Speaker 2: You get to these places and you see these people
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  Speaker 2: having these like three and a half hour dinners. Everyone's relaxed.
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  Speaker 2: They're all laughing. Their family's around.
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  Speaker 1: Four generations. There's a 170-year-old father. But no one's stressed out.
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  Speaker 2: They're not all freaked out like Americans are. They're also
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  Speaker 2: not fat. These thin people. And they're eating bread. They're
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  Speaker 2: eating bread and pasta and fucking gelato. And they're not fat.
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  Speaker 1: And they smoke and cigarettes.
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  Speaker 2: And they live to be 100. My favorite.
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  Speaker 1: Place to visit Italy I brought my son for a
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  Speaker 1: father-son trip there years ago then I just brought my
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  Speaker 1: whole family last year we went to Venice and Rome
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  Speaker 1: and uh yeah dude I and I have like a
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  Speaker 1: gluten intolerance like if I eat a sandwich I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna you'll see it on my face like all I
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  Speaker 1: did was eat pasta bread gelato the whole time the
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  Speaker 1: whole time and you were fine I lost five pounds
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  Speaker 1: I lost five fucking pounds. People are like, dude, it's
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  Speaker 1: the walking. I was like, it's not the walking. Walking
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  Speaker 1: does not lose fucking, you don't lose weight from walking
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  Speaker 1: if you're a person who actively exercises.
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  Speaker 2: We are being poisoned. Yeah. 100%. And the, you know,
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  Speaker 2: RFK juniors and working really hard to try to stop
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  Speaker 2: a lot of what is fucking with us with our
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  Speaker 2: diet in America. God, the resistance is crazy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, because the people decide what side they're on and
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  Speaker 1: they go, I don't care how good it might be.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck you. You're part of Trump's cabinet.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little of that. But what I'm talking about
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  Speaker 2: is the resistance from corporations.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 2: And the effect that they have on policy. And then
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  Speaker 2: the reality of economics. Like, here was a big one. Like,
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  Speaker 2: he had to pass. So there's this thing. Do you
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  Speaker 2: know what glyphosate is?
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  Speaker 1: No. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So it's an herbicide that they spray on plants. And
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  Speaker 2: it's super bad for you. It's super bad for you.
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  Speaker 2: And it's banned in a lot of countries. But it's
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  Speaker 2: used ubiquitously in the United States. And there's some extraordinary
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  Speaker 2: number of people test positive for glyphosate.
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  Speaker 1: On the wheat? Is this what they're spraying on the wheat?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. So they spray it on the wheat as a desiccator.
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  Speaker 2: So they spray it on the wheat after the wheat
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  Speaker 2: has already been harvested to keep it from growing mold.
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  Speaker 2: Which is crazy. They're going to spray poison to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that life doesn't grow on your wheat. That's really
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  Speaker 2: what's going on. Like mold is a type of life.
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  Speaker 2: And they want to make sure it doesn't grow on
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  Speaker 2: this wheat that they're going to sell you. So they
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  Speaker 2: spray poison. So RFK Jr. was trying really hard to
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  Speaker 2: stop that. But Trump essentially said that if they passed
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  Speaker 2: this ban on glyphosate and they forced all these farmers
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  Speaker 2: to stop moving glyphosate, it would destroy. the farm market
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  Speaker 2: in America. It would destroy it. Like, 90-something percent of
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  Speaker 2: these people use glyphosate. Wow. And you're like.
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  Speaker 1: That's because they have to, like, it preserves it, essentially,
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  Speaker 1: so they can keep it longer.
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  Speaker 2: For wheat, and then corn actually has, like, Roundup-ready corn,
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  Speaker 2: so you could spray it on the corn and it
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  Speaker 2: survives this shit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, like, it kills all the weeds around it, but
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  Speaker 2: the corn survives. We've got this nuclear corn.
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  Speaker 1: That's bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: And what's crazy is, our whole system depends on it.
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  Speaker 2: Like we've got a bad system and the solution is
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  Speaker 2: keep the bad system for now. Because if we don't,
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  Speaker 2: if we don't feed people poison, then we'll go under.
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  Speaker 1: It's so crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And that's, what it is in America. That's why when
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  Speaker 2: you go to Italy, you get that Italian flour, which
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  Speaker 2: is heirloom wheat. So Maynard from Tool, he explained this
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  Speaker 2: to me because he owns restaurants. And he said that
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  Speaker 2: when you're getting wheat from America, it's like got a
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  Speaker 2: higher yield per acre. Because it's like more gluten dense.
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  Speaker 2: It has more complex glutens in it. And your body
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  Speaker 2: just goes, whoa, like this is a lot. You know
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  Speaker 2: that feeling like, whoa, because you're essentially eating glue. When
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  Speaker 2: you eat pasta that you have it in Italy or
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it doesn't have calories, but there's a
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  Speaker 2: difference in the way it feels when it goes in
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  Speaker 2: your body. There's not a resistance. It feels like food.
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  Speaker 2: When I become a glutton and I eat like a
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  Speaker 2: whole pizza in America, if it's not at a good
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  Speaker 2: spot that uses Italian wheat, I feel like I fucking
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  Speaker 2: poison myself.
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  Speaker 1: I literally feel, I mean, almost like a hangover, a weird,
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  Speaker 1: like you feel it like in your veins.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's the complex glutens. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if that's glyphosate. I think the glyphosate thing
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  Speaker 2: is probably dangerous but yet also possibly overstated. So it
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  Speaker 2: seems like the very low levels of glyphosate our body
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  Speaker 2: can tolerate it. But the real question is like why
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  Speaker 2: are we fucking tolerating it? Like why is that there?
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  Speaker 2: Because there's people that think that that's what you're reacting
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  Speaker 2: to when you're eating wheat. That you're reacting to your
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  Speaker 2: body just like, what is this? I don't like this
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  Speaker 2: fucking herbicide.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this also happened as I got older. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know what it was. I never really had an
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  Speaker 1: issue with pizza, pasta, wheat, anything when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 1: I could eat a peanut butter jelly sandwich. That's my mid-20s.
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  Speaker 1: It just hit me in a different way. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you can develop a gluten intolerance or a
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  Speaker 1: gluten allergy.
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  Speaker 2: It happens to a lot of people as they get older.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder what that is. I wonder if that's just
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  Speaker 2: your body's just like, E, fuck enough, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Your body just gives up on it. It's like, but
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  Speaker 2: when you were young.
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  Speaker 1: Are you sure it's running more efficiently, just naturally?
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: You're young. You're full of hormones. Your body, the cells
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: are replicating perfectly. It's jerking off 30 times a day. Yeah,
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: you're a fucking animal. Everything's great. And I think your
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: body could just burn it off. Like, that's why hangovers
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  Speaker 2: weren't as bad when I was 20 either.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Hangovers were no big deal. Just have some water the
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  Speaker 2: next day and you'll be good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was not that bad.
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  Speaker 1: Dude.
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  Speaker 2: Hangovers. If I have a hangover at 58, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: what are you trying to die early? You fucking idiot.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was saying about Shane at the stadium
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  Speaker 1: or the arena before. It's like he's we get there
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  Speaker 1: and I wasn't even drinking. I stopped drinking, you know,
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  Speaker 1: regularly here and there. But I was just the best
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  Speaker 1: shape and the best mental state I've ever been in
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  Speaker 1: my life was when I'm completely sober. Completely sober, eating healthy,
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  Speaker 1: exercising every day. That right there is the best. It's
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  Speaker 1: the best version of everybody. It's not a unique thing
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  Speaker 1: to myself, right? But Shane, I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's fucking Shane. He was like, come on, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: have a drink. Yeah. So I was like, started drinking whiskey.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: The best version of Shane is 11 Bud Lights. After 11,
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: he's just unstoppable. He's a jolly drunk. That's why.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know how he does it. I don't know
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: if I could have done it for more than two,
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  Speaker 1: three nights in a row. I would die.
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  Speaker 2: You ever smoke weed with a rapper? It's the same shit.
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  Speaker 2: It's like people get used to things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have.
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  Speaker 2: You know, try smoking weed with Wiz Khalifa.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: Wiz Khalifa should try smoking weed with me.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: Are you really calling him out?
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. I used to be bringing on Wiz Khalifa.
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  Speaker 1: I used to be, I mean, I'm talking about an
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  Speaker 1: all day, every day, get up in the morning just
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: to get going five dabs. Like, I, like real deal pothead.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: Blunt to the head. I smoked blunt to the head
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  Speaker 1: a week ago right before I trained. My sparring partner
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  Speaker 1: was like, you smell like weed. I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: could never in a million years. But it's just I'm
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: so used to it that.
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  Speaker 2: I can just go. Yeah, it becomes a normal state.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure jujitsu, everyone smokes weed before training.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people smoke. It's the dirty secret of jujitsu.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: A lot of people smoke weed before jujitsu. What is
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  Speaker 2: Wiz doing? Up the nose? He's taking a nose dab, yeah. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: You don't need to do that. Why would you do that, Wiz?
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  Speaker 2: That dude's jacked. You ever see what Wiz looks like?
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: He got really into Muay Thai, like heavily. And so
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: he brings the guy with him everywhere he goes and
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: hits pads. He's a fucking rip dude. I mean like
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: a 10 pack.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: He looks fucking great. And his technique looks pretty solid.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: Just gets high, kick shit.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: How fun is that?
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: What a life. Well, there's a thing about when you're high,
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: you feel your muscles more. Like you feel like the
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: little fibers, you know, instead of it being a blunt thing,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: it's like you have access to all the fibers.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's also you like, um, With jiu-jitsu specifically,
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: you get into like a flow state where you close
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: your eyes and you're just fucking feeling things. And it's
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: like I think that can actually help it.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's a performance enhancer. I really do. I
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: always felt like my jiu-jitsu game was 10% better if
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: I was high.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no bullshit. Yeah, I've really felt that. I think
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Eddie would agree with that too. I think a lot
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: of people agree with that.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I think... Same thing with comedy. It's like, it's...
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: It can be. It can be. I think if you're
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: getting high every day, and then if you switch it up,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: then it's a performance enhancer. Like, being right now, being
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: completely sober, like, I feel like I'm on Adderall. Like,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm completely locked in in a different way.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Whereas, like.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: And then I'll stop smoking weed for six months, then
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to it. I'm like, oh, I've never
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: been more creative. It's just... I think it's just changing
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: your mindset in whatever way you can do that.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: That's why people are so locked in on their, like...
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Having the same opinions their entire lives. It's like– somebody
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: called me out on Twitter today. They were like, dude,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: you flip-flop constantly on things. I was like, you mean
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I've grown? You've been watching me for 15 years on podcasts.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: I'm now 44 years old. Listen, I'm Captain Flip-Flop. I'm
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Captain Flip-Flop. I just don't think you should be married
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: to your ideas. I think the real problem is once
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: you say something and then you have to defend it.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: And then once you find out that it's wrong, you
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: fucking panic and then you double down and then you
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: try to defend it in some weird fucking circular logic way.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: And you'll get there. You'll probably– if you're smart enough,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: guys will just figure out a way to ask backwards
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: their logic. But every once in a while, it's so
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: nice to go, oh, dude, I was completely wrong about that.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: That you win any argument with a girl.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: In this world, the world that you and I are in,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: we have conversations publicly, right? And that's something that a
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: lot of people don't do. So if you have conversations publicly,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: then the whole world can essentially go, no, you're wrong.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: You know, which is very valuable, very valuable for being
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: able to formulate opinions. Most people don't fucking have that, dude.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: So most people, they just like if they're wrong about something,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: they've said it publicly and shame people. You know, you
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: better do this because of that and this and the wrong.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Once they find out they're wrong, they fucking panic. And
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: there's not much you can do about it. Like you're
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: just wrong. And the only thing you could do if
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: you want to keep any credibility and say, this is
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: what I thought and this is why I thought it.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: But I don't think that anymore. And I was wrong.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I fucked that up. But this new information, I want
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: you to have too. Because this is why– I'm going
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: to tell you why I thought what I thought and
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: why it changed.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: You've got to be able to do that.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's just a weird thing in society. People
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: will not. They refuse.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Well, people want to pretend they're smarter than they are.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: That's the thing, man. Everybody wants to pretend they're fucking
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: smarter than they are. We're all talking monkeys.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: We're idiots.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: All of us. Every fucking person alive is a talking monkey.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: So the internet is the best and the worst thing
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: that's ever happened because now all the monkeys can scream.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Everybody can get mad. Everybody can complain. But it's also great.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: And you used to have time to reflect. You said,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: so what would happen is something would happen, right? Whatever
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: it is, some big event, right? And it happens on Friday.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Like I don't have, I got to sit on this
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: until Monday. I'll talk to my, my wife or some
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: friends at home, but it's like, until I get to
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: work on Monday, I can't spout these ideas and my opinions.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: And you kind of reflect on it and you sit
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: on it. You're on the toilet, taking a shit, thinking
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: about things. We don't have that anymore. It's just all
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: distraction constantly. And it's like, just, I mean the amount,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: like I, the only time I ever like reflect on
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Is if I'm working out or I'm sitting in the
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: steam room.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Right, by yourself.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Got to put the phone away. You literally can't do anything.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: But even you're taking a shit, dude. Back in the day,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: taking a shit used to be like the best thinking time.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: People had magazines. Yeah. You know, you sit there reading
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Life Magazine while you're taking a dump. What you just
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: said was like very important. So what we're talking about is.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: People being able to talk about things. Now imagine what
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: life was like, because we both, how old are you? 44. Okay.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: So you lived it a little bit, but I really
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: lived it where there was no internet. And if there
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: was no internet, you couldn't talk to anything about anybody,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: about anybody, about anything, because everything that came up in
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the news, like you'd see it on the news, you go,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: what is going on? You get like this quick snippet
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: and then you'd have to go to a newspaper or
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: And you'd read the newspaper and go, what the fuck
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: are we doing in Venezuela?
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: And at this point, 99% of people are already out.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Even right there.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: People are like, I'm not going to the library.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting a newspaper. And if you're the guy
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: who goes to work and, you know, how much time
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: do you have to talk to people about things? You
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: have stuff to do. You can't be the guy that
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: corners people when they're getting coffee. Do you hear what
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: we're doing in Nicaragua? So we're selling cocaine in Los
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Angeles to the CIA. The CIA is selling cocaine in
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles to fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Do you know that? Yeah. I got work to do.
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• 19:48
  Speaker 2: And so you never... got to express yourself. What are
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you going to do? Start a fucking ham radio channel?
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: What are you going to do? There was no way
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: to express yourself.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: That was that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: And bro, if you did start a radio channel, here's
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the crazy thing. They would lock you up.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Do you know that? You had to have an FCC license.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: What was that movie? Yeah.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Christian Slater.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Christian Slater. Pump up the volume.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Pump up the volume.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Pump up the volume, dude.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: What he was doing.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: He was podcasting from a car before there was podcasts.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: This is 1990. They were chasing him down. Yeah. And
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: they were trying to arrest him.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: He was the rebel.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: And wasn't he saying like 17, some stuff like go
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: out there and live your life or something like, what
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: was he saying? Did he have like a pump you
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: up speech? Everybody was listening to this.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even that controversial. It was like, you know,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the man, you.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Know, what was he saying? Like he's, he's ranting. It's
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: like low level podcasting, but he might be the first podcast.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: No, I'm like, no bullshit.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Like that idea in that movie might've been, you know,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: cause it's always like one idea builds on and then
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: new inventions and then builds on.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: The one idea is this sexy rebel who's out there yelling,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: fuck the man. And he's in a, like a van
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: running from the cops. Cause he's going to put them
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: in a cage because he made his own radio station.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: That's wild.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: And that's what we're doing right now.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There was– yeah, I mean I lived pre-internet and
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: internet sort of high school, ninth grade or so. That's
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: when it started popping off.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Podcasts show you straight up that the free market is
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: much better than regulations by the government because you're never
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: going to get this kind of a show. The government
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: gets to regulate you and they tell you you can't swear.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: They tell you you can't be obscene. There's certain things
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: you can't say.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Well, now it's just YouTube and Google that will tell
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you that. But that's what they did.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: But they don't do it as much.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: No. Not nowhere near as much. But it's the new
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: way to sort of combat that is demonetization. Right.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. The market dictates that too because
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: if someone else comes along and says, hey, we're not
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: going to do that. So there's a reason why YouTube
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: has like loosened up some of its content restriction.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because Rumble came out. Kick came out.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Also– They were wrong. Like a lot of the restrictions
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: were during COVID and they were wrong. They were telling
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: people if you bring up the lab leak theory, we'll
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: kick you off of YouTube.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of people, a lot of people got
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: completely lost their channels, like lost their way to make money.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: You can say the earth is flat. Yeah. There's millions
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: of flat earth videos out there. You can say Bigfoot
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: raped my mom. You know, you could say anything.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: But if you said that it might've come from a lab,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: you would get kicked off of YouTube.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: It's so funny. We found out that's exactly what happened.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: But the market. sort of shifted and that's how rumble
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: started getting bigger rumble got bigger specifically because of the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: fact there's pushback on youtube because they literally won't even
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: let nick fuentes on youtube and he's on rumble and
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: he's like their number one guy he's killing it on
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: rumble see that's the thing it's like if you hold
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: something back you're just going to make another version of
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: it that opposes it and they're going to have more
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: energy to fight against you because you've You've.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Stopped the truth.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You've stopped the truth about like not like about
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: petty things, but really important things like how a fucking
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: disease went through the whole world. You're literally stopping people
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: from examining the truth. Which is weird. Yeah.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: It's not good.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: That's real scary.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: That was a scary time just like in general to
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: like– it was a great time for podcasting. Podcasting blew
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: up during COVID. It was huge. Everyone just stayed at home.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Everyone was like, what are we going to do? We
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: have nothing else to do except sit on the internet
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and listen to podcasts. But yeah, it was like just
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a weird uncertain time. Even like physically in life, it
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: was uncertain.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: And then you go on the internet and it's like, oh,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I could just like lose everything. They could just take
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: it away like that. All these platforms. This is why
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I do all of my own things specifically because I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: am terrified that my things are going to be taken
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: away from me. So I have my own platforms, my
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: own festival.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Well, you were really smart about that early on with
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Gas Digital. Such a good idea, dude.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Thanks.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Such a good idea. And it's also like your fan base.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Your fan base is so loyal and so rabid.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Because they're like invested financially. Oh, yeah. And it's a
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: better relationship, honestly, in a lot of ways.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Well, what's funny is when we started it, it wasn't
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: even completely necessary. What's funny is Patreon hadn't even– it existed,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: but it was like– you know, guitar players asking for tips.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: There was nobody podcasting on Patreon. We started the platform
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Uncensored Ad Free for, you know, behind a paywall. We
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: were unique. There was really no... Anthony Cumia did it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: There was a couple people that were doing their thing.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: And Anthony did it specifically because he was fired from XM.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had to.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had to.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: But we did... And it wasn't even like... It wasn't
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: crazy back then. But the way everything became censored and,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you know, there's all these ads on YouTube. There's so much.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: It feels so like... It feels commercial. It feels like
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you're watching... TV in the late 90s when you're watching
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: YouTube now. Now more than ever, there's a need for
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: an uncensored ad-free platform, and there's not many of them.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: To be honest.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: No, 100%.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And I think you did the smartest thing by doing that.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: And so here's the argument. The argument is like that
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: if it's everywhere, like if it's on YouTube and it's
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: on Spotify, it's on everywhere, then there's more potential for
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: growth because it's easier to access. That is true. And
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: it's also– it's way easier to promote because people can
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: just send each other. Like it's natural.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the algorithms will push it, which is– Yeah, there's that,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: but there's also sharing.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Like if I have– if someone has got a good podcast,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I'll share it with my friends. You've got to listen
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: to this. It's hilarious. And so that– you can't do
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: that if it's a pay platform. So like you'd have
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: to get someone to sign up.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: What's funny is we were so early on a lot
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: of these things. I give myself a lot of credit
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: here because we like– before you could screen record on
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: your phone, we had in our app, we had a
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: tool where you can clip clips to share.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Them to social media.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: So you could do– it was like limited to like
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: two or three clips per episode.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's great. It never worked really. Was there a
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: time limit on the clips?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: A minute or two.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a problem. That's a problem.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Because like you want like at least eight. Yeah. You know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: because like especially if there's a funny back and forth
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: between you guys.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Like if you're doing Legion of Skanks and you guys
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: are going off about something.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: You need a little more than a couple of minutes.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: You got to sink your teeth into it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Otherwise, that's the best way to take things out
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: of context, too.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: You're telling me.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Boy, people love doing that.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: They love doing that. But it's also it's like we're
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: going to ask everybody to listen to three hours of
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: a podcast.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: You got to expect that things are going to get
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: taken out of context. It's part of the game. You know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: it's part of the thing we do.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And nobody really wants a context. Even when they
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: find out the context.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: They don't care.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: They've been like, well, I already were saying before I've
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: moved on from that opinion.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody cares.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow it's another another day. You know, nobody really cares
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: about anything, to be honest with you. It's like the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: way that the Internet has turned people into like just
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: like whatever's in front of them. That's what they care about.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, the amount of things that. were such a
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: big deal a month ago. I mean, ice was such
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: a huge deal two months ago. We haven't heard anything
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: about ice since then. They, you know, it was the Ukraine.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: What happened to the Ukraine? That war is still going on.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I believe nobody gives a shit.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: It's still going on. It's just, it's not sexy right now.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like law and order, special victims unit,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: you know, season 50.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: We've seen every angle on rape already.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's still going to be a big show.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: It's still important. It's top ten. But it's– you know
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Like it's not the number one thing
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: that we're concerned with. Whereas when it popped off, when
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Russia invaded, it was like the end of the world.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: And then there was people– I literally heard people saying
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: that Ukraine should have never given up its nukes. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, OK. I could see what you're saying.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I could see what you're saying. Like if they had nukes,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Russia probably wouldn't invade them. But ultimately that means we're
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: threatening you with nukes.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: That's the scariest thing ever.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: That's fucking crazy. The whole thing's crazy. But it's also,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: it's like, why did this happen? Did NATO pushing arms
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: closer and closer to Russia have no impact on this?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Nobody can hit Texas or New York, though, right? Like,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Hawaii's fucked.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, they could hit New York. What do you mean?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: They could hit New York?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, they could hit New York.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: You think so? Fuck yeah. With a nuke?
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I read something a while ago that they could only
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: reach Hawaii. Or I guess it wasn't anyone. It was, um,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: who was it? Was it Russia or China or– one
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: of them. They could only hit Hawaii. I had a
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: bit about it in my act and I.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Was like– We had a guy on that was talking
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: about back engineering UFO technology and that they had this
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: idea of using it to what they would call an
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: instantaneous delivery system of a nuclear bomb because the way
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: these things supposedly can travel– I'm a moron, so I
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: don't understand anything about gravity. But what they were explaining
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: is that if these crafts work in a way that
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: has no normal kind of propulsion, we think of propulsion
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: as like a jet. The fire goes out the back
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: and the jet goes forward really fast because of that, right?
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: What they're saying is these beings from wherever the fuck
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: they are, these people that have back-engineered their crafts, the
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: way they move is not by propulsion. It's by bending
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: space and time. It's by doing something to the gravity
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: around it or the actual space of the universe around
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: it where it can go to another place like instantaneously.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: So it's not like it flies. It's like it just
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: fucking zips over to another part of the universe. And
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: they can do it like that Tic Tac one that
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: they got on radar. They got it on the visuals.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Like two different fighter pilots saw it and talked about it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: They have video of it. This fucking thing went from
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: more than 50,000 feet above sea level to sea level
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: in one second. Less than a second. So it's like beep, beep, beep, radar.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: It went from 50,000 feet to that. So if you
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: could do that with a bomb, you could essentially instantaneously
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: detonate Moscow. Wow. If that's a real technology– so this
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: is probably why these assholes are hiding all this UFO information.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: It's because these assholes had probably– were using– they were like, yeah,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: we could travel anywhere in the universe or we could
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: blow up China without them even knowing it's happening. We
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: could assure that we'll win a nuclear war. Anybody would
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: have that technology, the ability to put something somewhere instantly
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and you put a bomb in it. That's crazy.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: So that might be what all this UFO bullshit is about. Yeah.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows? Who knows what's going on? I mean,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: like obviously there's something going on, right? I think where
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: there's smoke, there's fire. There's too much talk.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Have you seen these stories about all these scientists that
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: are getting whacked?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: No. Yeah.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: There are scientists that have gotten whacked and or missing
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: and a couple of generals as well that's all connected to.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: somehow or another to UFO technology and anti-gravity technology and
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: nuclear scientists. And there's a bunch of stories that I've
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: read about this. And some of them are like, this
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: is like purely exaggerated. And a lot of people are,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: it's just, they're taking that this guy committed suicide and
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: he worked on that. And this guy went missing and
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: he worked on that, but it's just coincidence. And then
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: there's other people that go, no, no, no, no, this is,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: there's too many people. So now the White House has
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: commented on it. So they're doing an investigation on this,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: which makes me think, hopefully, somebody who's really fucking smart
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: has looked at this information and said there's something there.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Like what these people were working on was very extraordinary
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: and could disrupt a market or could be something that
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: could be used in a weapon that would destroy another country.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: And so the other country sabotages it by killing scientists.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: That's shit that we would do.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Think how little we know. Like the amount of– Yeah.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Like you and I just human, just like Americans, just,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: just the general population, like the amount of, there's probably
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the craziest technology ever that the government has their hands
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: on right now. It's like we use AI tools and
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: it's like, I can imagine the AI that the government
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: currently has.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And that's why that'll never disappear. It's because all of
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: the governments are just sort of at a race to
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: see who can implement the strongest AI. So I can't
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: even imagine how crazy it is.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: There was one lady that was– that went missing and
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: there's a weird video of her because it seems like
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: she's drunk. And she's like talking about like how this
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: technology that it's real but every time that anybody gets
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: close to it, people stop it. And this lady has
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: gone missing as well. So it seems like she might
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: have had a couple of drinks or something and then
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: started ranting about this in some weird video call.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: But listen, if I had that information and I thought
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: that people were trying to kill me because I knew
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: about anti-gravity technology and I literally thought like I'm in
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: a Russell Crowe movie and someone's trying to fucking whack me,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I'd probably get drunk too. Yeah. Like what are you
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: going to do? She went missing though.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I was talking to two nuclear scientists after my show.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Just these two like– it was a couple. They were
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: like straight up nuclear scientists. It was Tacoma or Spokane, whatever.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: It's near that like there's a huge like– It's like
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: a nuclear town. Like everyone works in like nuclear science
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: in this entire town. And he was like– they were
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: just like so into telling me about like– not too much,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: not too in-depth. But he was like, you know, I
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: work like 100 feet below the ground. It was like
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: super top secret. And he was like– I started asking
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: him questions. He was like, I can't answer that. He
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: was like, they've definitely tapped our phones. Are you out
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: of your mind? Do you think they're like not just
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: listening to what we're saying to people? And it was
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: just like fucking goddamn.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I think they're listening to everything everybody's saying all the time.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: They can't organize it. Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I think it just gets stored. I don't think it's
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: like someone's listening where they can just know everything. Like
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: they have a person with a fucking earphone on listening
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: to everything you say. Oh, write it down.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I think probably high government officials, they probably do.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Probably. But now with AI, all they would have to
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: do is record everybody's phone all the time. And then
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: use AI to search all the transcripts and then find
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: an audio recording of you saying this or you saying that.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: We're probably three years away from them being able to
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: get everything we've ever done on the Internet.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but not just that. There's also AI which could
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: take that and then have you make phone calls to
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: people that you don't really make.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: So you could call up one of your friends and
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: ask him to meet you somewhere with a bag of heroin.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: And they would all, you know, they would know it
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: would like literally you'd use it to set people up. Yeah.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: You could use it to get people upset about something.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: You could have the AI have a fucking conversation with them.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been listening to AI Joe Rogan ads
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: on the internet for about a year now where they
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: just take your voice and they advertise products because you
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: have such a recognizable voice.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: That's pretty ridiculous, right?
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of people go, do you use that?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I go, no, it's AI. But the thing is, it's
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: like they can have it talk to you now. So
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: it sounds like you. Yeah. You could have a conversation
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: with you. Like you could AI Louis J Gomez. You
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: could talk to Louis J Gomez and it would be
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: like you talking to yourself. You'd probably lose your mind
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: if you were schizophrenic.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I did something really dark and sad one day. I
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: was super high and my mom died when I was
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: 22 years old. And then I went, I prompted chat GPT.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I told, I told a bunch of information about my
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: mom and I was like, I want to have a
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: conversation with my mom on the other side about like
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: what's going on in my life and my son and
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: asked me questions. And I was like, It was, it
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: got very, like, I got really emotional. Way more than
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: you would think. Like, I was, it was kind of
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: just a dumb thing. I was stunned. I was like,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: let's see where this goes. I was, I felt like
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I was talking to my mom at the end of it. Wow.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: It was fucking really.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: That's so crazy. Yeah.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. If it gets to be a super
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: intelligence and they program a super intelligence to behave exactly
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: and talk exactly like your mom. And then you had
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: conversations with her. Like, it knows her voice.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: That would be such a, fuck it.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: If you're schizophrenic and that starts happening, that would be
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the trip. That would be the ping-ping. We blew the
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: last fuse.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, dude. That would be it. Maybe that's
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: what they're doing. For you and me, right, who we have,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, thousands and thousands of hours recorded, right? Oh, yeah.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: They could have us say anything.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Well, not only just say anything. Like when I die,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming the technology– forget when I die, like 40
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: years from now. Like in the next few years, they
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: can just take– Every opinion I've had, the way I speak,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: my thoughts, everything, and then they can use AI to
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: not only just replicate what I do but go like, well,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: what would he likely think? What would he likely say?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: If you sort of put all that data in and
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: then eventually it's like a little fucking box sitting on
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the table that my son talks to. His dad never dies.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: His dad is always there. I think that will be
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: a thing that regularly is happening. I don't know if
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: it's like uploading the consciousness or if it's the AI
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: replicating your consciousness. I think they've talked about that for
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: a long time. But that I think will happen unquestionably.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: No doubt.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: And soon.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Very soon.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Well, the AI that they have now, like if you
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: put on those metaglasses, have you fucked with that? The
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: VR goggles?
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: They're pretty fucking good.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just jerk off. That's it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Just giant vaginas?
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Well, no, it's not even AI.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: If you have porn with VR, it must be insane.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, it is insane. Yeah. I can't watch regular porn anymore.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Don't say it that way. You made me nervous.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I was looking this up just to see if it
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: was still a thing. This is a William Shatner AI.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: He's sitting here waiting for us to ask him a question.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: And he'll just answer it in his voice.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: He sat there and recorded a bunch of stuff a
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: couple years ago for this.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know how well it works.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: We'll ask him this.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: This is a little different, though. This is just the beginning, though.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: This is the beginning of it. But once they really
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: turn the AI on this, it'll be a better William Shatner.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Let's ask him one random question.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Didn't he have a make-out session with a green lady
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: in Star Trek?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I think he did. I think there was some weird
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: racial pushback. There was some weird pushback. Oh, he kissed Uhura.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: He did make out with an alien. No, no, no.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: He did make out with an alien, right? I'm pretty
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: sure he kissed a green lady or something. But he
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: also kissed Lieutenant Uhura. who was a black lady. And
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: during the time where they did Star Trek, I think
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: this was very controversial. That's it. So that was in 1968.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: And this was very controversial that a white man and
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: a black way. And by the way, she was beautiful.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: That lady that played a whore, she's beautiful. And they
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: thought it was weird. They thought it was offensive. It
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: was like, it was a big thing in like the public.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I was too young. I was one years old. But
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I do remember this story.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: How much of a big deal? Remember there was that
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: movie Jungle Fever? It was an entire movie. The entire
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: premise of the movie was... A black guy and a
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: white girl. An interracial couple. That's a movie?
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: That's it?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: What is it called? Was the episode called Plato's Stepchildren?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Season 3, Episode 10, November 22nd, 1968.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Uhura, played by Nichelle Nichols and Captain Kirk William Shatner,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: episodes often cited incorrectly as the first interracial kiss on television.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: It was, however, the first instance in which a kiss
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: between a black person and a white person on U.S.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: television was ever scripted as an earlier kiss on Moving
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: with Nancy was unscripted. What the fuck is Moving with Nancy?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Nancy Sinatra special or something.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Nancy kissed a black guy on TV? Is that what
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: they're saying?
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: That's pissing me off now. I don't know why. I
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: bet she did it just to piss off Frank. Her
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: father was not okay with that.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I bet she did it just to piss off Frank.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Let me check.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, find out what she did. What the fuck happened?
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: It's like a variety show.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: So was it like her and just a singer or something?
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Was it a show where they would sing each other?
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: What happened here?
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Sammy Davis Jr.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, Sammy Davis Jr. kissed her. Oh, that's kind of
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: with her.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: That's what it says.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: But it says an interracial kiss between Sinatra and Sammy
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Davis Jr. Oh, boy.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: He kissed.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: He passionately kissed his friend's daughter.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Bro.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Those people were freaks back then.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: That's hot.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: They were freaks.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: This is it.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: That rat pack. That rat pack. Those guys were animals.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Look at that. Oh, that's on the cheek, bro. He
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: kissed her on the cheek. Zoom in on that. That's outrageous.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: That's a nice, friendly kiss. That's not a passionately kissed.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Let me see that. Close in on there. Yeah, he
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: kissed her on the cheek. Don't you think?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: It looks like the cheese. It looks like right here. Yeah,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a little side of that.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: That's like a sweet thing.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Italian men do that to each other.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a kiss on the lips. That doesn't count.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I say Star Trek's the first because that was like,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: let's get down. Get down, get down.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Jungle boogie. It's so nuts, dude. Yeah, I mean, my
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: mom was white and my dad was like Afro-Latino, like
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: dark skin. He looked black. He looked like Eazy-E. I
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: was going to show you a picture of my dad.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: That's funny.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: He looks straight up like Eazy-E. And it's like– yeah,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I mean that– even in the 80s growing up, that
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: was kind of like– it was weird. I remember the
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: first time I saw an interracial couple in high school.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I'm 44. I'm not that old. But like it was weird.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I remember just seeing like in like the 10th grade,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: this like hot white chick started dating this like football
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: player black kid. It wasn't that regular where I grew up.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: And I grew up an hour outside of New York City.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was controversial. It would open you up
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: to all sorts of– Like you get yelled at by people.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: You get attacked. There's a lot of people that they
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: dealt with a lot of shit back then, man.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Well, racism is back. Don't worry.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: It kind of never went away. But it comes in
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: waves of encouragement where people think like it's OK. It's
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: OK to be racist. It's OK to be this, to
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: be that.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: It was a weird thing where it's like. A lot
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: of us were just being ironic and funny for a while.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: You make racial jokes. You make jokes about anything. I
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: think you could make a joke about anything. It's a
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: comedian's job. And then it shifted once social media became
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: so big and everyone's opinion. You can anonymously just say
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: whatever you want, dude. If you wanted to say something
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: racist anonymously, you had to write it on a bathroom wall.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: You have to be like, I hate N-words.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: On the wall in a marker.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: While you're taking a shit.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: And then somebody else responds to it underneath it. And
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: they're like, well, I hate you, cracker. And then it goes.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: That was always fun. Like bathroom walls were fun. Oh, yeah.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: A phone number.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Great conversations were in there.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Call this number.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: You give your ex-girlfriend's phone number on the wall.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Those are the days.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: The original doxing.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Well, it's also those like the, that's the original message board.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's the original YouTube comments. Right.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: That's the original comments on an ex post. It's the
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: bathroom wall.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: That's it. And that's the only thing. That's as far
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: as it can go was maybe 12 people a day
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: would see your shit anonymously. But it felt so good.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Just N-I-G.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I can't remember any interracial couples in high school. I
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: can't remember any of them. Oh, no.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: One.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I do remember one. But I do remember there was
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: a lot of pushback, man. Like a lot of people
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: were like openly racist about it. Yeah. It's hard. It
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: eventually has to go away. But it's like it's going
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: away in waves. Like it used to be normal. Like
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: everybody was racist. The whole world was racist. I think
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: everyone is bigoted.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: It's a little different than racist, right?
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Well, everyone was tribal, right? Like you could only trust
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: the 150 people that you lived with. You could barely
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: trust them. You could barely trust them. They're probably trying
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: to be the tribal chief and fuck people over and
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: fuck the chief's wife. That shit's always gone on. But
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: for sure, if there was a group that you didn't
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: know and they showed up, they were there to kill you.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: A hundred percent. A bunch of guys show up. There's
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: 15 guys. They show up, but you're, they're trying to
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: kill you.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Well, also pre-internet you, you had to coexist, right? You
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: had to, the only people you can communicate with, you
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: go to the grocery store, it's an Indian guy or
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: a black guy or a Puerto Rican guy. It's like, no,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I got to buy a tomato. So I'm, We're just
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: going to do what we need to. I'm going to
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: give you my dollar. You're going to give me a tomato.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to say, have a good day.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: This is an America in a city in the 20th
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: century and then the 21st century. What I'm saying is
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: we're hardwired for the olden days. This is why it's
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: so easy to get people to join the team, whether
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: it be a Democrat or be a Republican or MAGA
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: or whatever the fuck it is. It's so easy because
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: people are programmed to be in tribes.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. And they want an identity.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: It's easier to— And.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: There's an enemy. They want an enemy, too.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Yep. You feel like you're on a side. You don't
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: really have to do much thinking.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Whatever they say, I agree with.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: It also gives you comfort that you're surrounded by other people.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I used to think that when I was young, when
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I would watch religious preachers on television, I was watching
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: these Islamic guys, and they were talking about Islam. And
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: the way— the certainty in the fact that what they were
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: saying was true— Like the way they were saying, like
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: all these other religions mean nothing because Islam is the truth.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: And they were like, yep. They believed it. I'm like,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: it must feel great to believe something 100% like that.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: And to have a bunch of other people around you
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: that also believe it. 100% no ifs, ands, or buts.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Believe all.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: The reality is no one knows about anything until you
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: experience it. So you don't really know. What's going to
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: happen in heaven if heaven's real? You don't know any
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: of that. No. But you're so convinced. And my question is,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: by what?
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I wish I had any sort of spiritual faith.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: That's what I keep saying.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I wish.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Come up with a good cult. I'll join it.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I just can't. Since I was a little kid, I
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: remember just being a little kid and think having the
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: thought God's not real. And then trying– because I was
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: raised Catholic, just suppressing it being like I can't think
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to burn in hell if I even
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: think the idea that God isn't real. It's like what
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: a weird psychotic thing to do to like a five-year-old kid.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: And yeah, it's like– yeah, you sort of like– the
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: idea of faith, it actually seems like really like kind
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: of freeing. Like the idea of like, dude, I'm going
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: to die and I'm going to go to the kingdom
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: of heaven and I'm going to experience everything that I've
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: ever wanted. I mean that sounds incredible. For me, it's
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm counting down until I'm going
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: to sleep forever. Like I have nothing after– I really
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: don't believe in any of that. When people get into
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: like these heated passion like debates about certain things like
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: abortion is a great topic for this concept. When you're
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: trying to convince somebody that's religious like to be pro-life,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: you're like you don't understand what's going on there, dude.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: They believe you're murdering a baby. You're not going to
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: convince somebody– That like, oh, well, let me try to
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: break this down for you right now. Let me try
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: to give you a different angle on this. No, they
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: believe that that's a life, a conception. They believe it's
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: a soul. They really fucking believe that deep down. And
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: that is like, I kind of go like, well, no,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I respect that. Like, I'm not going to, like, I'm pro-life, right?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I was raised by women and I just kind of
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: grew up in New York. We always sort of had
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: that sensibility.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Do you mean pro-choice? Is that what you meant?
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm pro-choice. I apologize. But when I, my
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: son was born or even when I first saw the heartbeat,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I remember I was like, that's a life right there.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: The heartbeat, that six weeks, whatever it was, I was like,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: that's a fucking life right there. But when you're dealing
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: with religious people who believe that that's a soul and
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: that it is like the second it's conceived, you're trying
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: to convince them that it's okay to kill a baby.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: And it's never going to happen.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's never going to happen. And I don't
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: know who's right. That's the real problem. Like for convenience
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: sake and for living your life on your own terms sake.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: And see, my take on this, first of all, I'm
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: not a woman. And if you're talking about this and
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: there's no chance of you ever getting pregnant, that's a
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: weird thing. Because, like, conceptually, yeah, that's a life. No doubt.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, not even conceptually. Objectively. That's a life. It's
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: going to become a human. But who am I to say,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: especially in cases where, like, incest and rape and, you know,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: crazy shit. Who am I to say that you have
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: to raise that kid, that you have to– that life
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: has to– you have to change your body for the
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: next nine months maybe irrevocably. I mean maybe it will
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: just change your body forever. Maybe you'll have stretch marks forever.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Because of this. Because of this horrible thing that happened
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: to you because everybody says that this life is precious.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Every time you got to feed a breakfast, you got
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: to fucking– If that.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Was for men, if men got pregnant– Abortion would be
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: at gas stations.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Fill it up and take it out.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: It would be– there's not a fucking chance in hell.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: That's a bit, dude. That's a bit.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: There's not a chance in hell that it would be
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: a debate.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't be a debate. If men make the laws
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: and men could get pregnant men would have abortions everywhere
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: yeah there's no fucking chance you'd be able to tell
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: another man that he's gonna have to keep a baby.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: No yeah it's it's it's very complex and I understand
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: both sides of it you know I really do I
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: wouldn't when people say that's a life you can't it's
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: like I'm like I really get that and when people
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: go like it's a woman's body and sort of race
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: to choose if she wants to eject this from her
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: body before a certain time. Um, it's a.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Weird thing is like at what point in time, like
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: could you stop it when it's a clump of cells?
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Can you stop it when it's almost a fetus? You
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like it gets, it's, it's such
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: a human problem in that there's no, it's a, it's
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: a weird fucking sloppy.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I think when it grows, when it grows a nose, Yeah,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: before it grows a nose or fingers.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a kid. It's going to be
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: a kid that maybe wins an Olympic gold medal.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: If it's got webbed fingers still.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: It could be a kid that is Sabrina Carpenter and
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: is on stage in front of all those people. You
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? That's the weird thing about life.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: It could be somebody that changes the world.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: It could be.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Literally, yeah, yeah. If you look at like child development,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: like month to month. I mean, when my son was
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: being born, I was just like obsessively like looking at it.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: It starts looking like a baby way earlier than you think.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: And the problem is you can still abort it when
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: it looks like a fucking baby. And that's– it's just
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: a– Oh, you.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Get aborted when it is a baby.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: In certain cases.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: If it's like medically– I knew a guy.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: His girlfriend had a late-term abortion. It was horrible.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Horrible to know that like she was showing.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: It was– well, there was that one– This is in
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: the 90s. There was one video that went viral a
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: while ago and it was like they were talking to
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: somebody in an abortion clinic with like a hidden cell
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: phone camera and they were like, well, what happens if
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: you abort the fetus, you remove the fetus and it's
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: still alive? like on the table. Um, and they were like, well,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: we would have to at least extinguish life or something
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: like that. It was like pretty fucking crazy.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: It's like, so when the baby's out, you're going to
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: kill the, that you're just going to kill it. It's
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: called what it is. You're going to kill a baby.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: It's bonkers.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: And that's why, like you could understand why Christians would
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: think that's demonic. Yeah.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I think anyone, anyone would think that's demonic.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: You could totally understand that. And to ignore that and
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: throw it into this. No, but I, You know, I
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: believe in the woman's right to choose. Okay, me too.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: But what's that? Yeah. Like, what are we saying here? Like,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: you're going to just kill the baby when it's alive
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: outside the womb? Is it viable? Like, could it be
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: grow up and become one of your friends? Like, what
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: are we doing?
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Could that baby grow up?
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: And just live. Yeah.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: And just have a wonderful life and have a great job.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: It's fucking weird, man. Because like what is life and
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: why– it's very precious to us because if we don't
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: have it, then we don't have a say in what's
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: going on. But we're really just a fucking bunch of
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: atoms and particles and molecules and everything spinning around at
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: a different frequency. That's what we really are.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Your mushrooms are kicking in, Joe.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: They're not even– I'm just saying like we're so obsessed
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: with life. Yeah. And– That's why this is such a
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: fascinating conversation. It's also a fascinating conversation because men can't
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: get pregnant. Yeah. It's a weird dynamic.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I think they can, right? They can carry the baby.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: We can't get pregnant, but I think you can. Well,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: they're talking to trans women.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: They're talking about getting uteruses implanted in their body and
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: then getting pregnant and having an abortion. I want to
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: be the first person to do that. It just shows
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: you how trans is really healthy.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: That's pretty hilarious.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: It would be a good bit. It would be something
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: that Steve-O would do.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: It really would be. It is. I'm going to put
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: a baby in a board. How fucking great is that?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He would do it if there wouldn't be any
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: social pushback. Yeah.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: That one's tough.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: A little bit of a tough one.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: He almost got tit implants.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I know. He told me that.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: It's nuts.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Don't do that. Yeah.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Ouch. You're going to get your chest carved open. Can
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: he get a dick tattooed on his face? Yes. He's insane.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Right over his eyebrow.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: He's a lunatic.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: It took me like a few seconds to realize it
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: was a dick too. I'm like, okay. Last time I
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: saw you, you didn't have that, right?
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a fucking wild one.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: So that nuclear scientist thing or the UFO scientist thing,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: is there anything to do that? Do we know? Why
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: don't you throw that into our ad or sponsor perplexity?
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: I already did. What does it say?
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: It's obviously an online link.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Right. But I mean the White House is investigating this.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: They're bringing it up. They're investigating it because so many
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: people are asking about it.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's that easy? Let's find out if Michelle Obama
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: has a dick. If the White House is like, we
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: have an unprecedented number of people asking this question, it's
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: our duty to do the work for the American people.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: They do. They all had a security clearance and all
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: happened to work in similar fields like nuclear fusion. Okay.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: So what ties the 11 together? Many have recently clearances
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: or indirect access to sensitive government work, often via NASA,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: the Department of Energy's nuclear labs, the Air Force, or
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: major defense contractors. Their deaths or disappearances occurred between 2022
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: and early 2026, clustered enough to in time to draw
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: political and media attention. The White House has ordered agencies
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: such as FBI, NASA, the Department of Energy, and the
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Department of War to perform link analysis to see if
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: there's any pattern beyond coincidence. So one of them was
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: real weird where there was like a lady who was
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: hiking and she was with a bunch of friends. Her
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: friend turned around and asked her a question. She talked
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: to her and then she turned around again and she
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: was gone. And they have no idea what happened. They
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: never found a body. They brought the dogs in. The
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: dogs couldn't find her. Just gone.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: But here's my question. If I was her and I
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: thought that they were trying to whack me and. I
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: was going hiking with my friends and I was at
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: the back of the line. That's where I'd be if
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I was going to make a run for it, right?
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: If I thought all these people were bringing me up there,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: these fucking fellow scientists to chuck me off the cliff,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I might be in the back. And then I might,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: if I'm paranoid, maybe I ate an edible before I
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: went on this hike to be a little closer to nature.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: And I'd look at that person in front of me.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm going to wait until they turn that
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: right around that turn. And I'm fucking gone.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Homer Simpson into the bushes.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: And then she just fucking booked it down that hill
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: and hopped in her car, got an Uber waiting for, disappeared.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Case you're thinking of is Monica Jacinto Reza, 60-year-old aerospace
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: engineer linked to NASA, JPL, and advanced rocket engine materials research.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: She disappeared on June 22nd, 2025 while hiking in in
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: the Angeles National Forest, Los Angeles County, on a well-traveled trail.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: I know where that place is. I've been to that spot.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Reports say she was hiking with at least one friend companion.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: The friend was roughly 30 feet ahead, turned to check
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: on her, saw her smile, and waved that she was fine,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: that a short time later, looked back again, and she
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: was gone. Despite intensive searches, no confirmed trace of her
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: has been found, and her case is now One of
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: the central examples of missing or dead scientist cluster being
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: reviewed by federal agencies. Yeah. That's weird.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: She disappeared. She was like, fuck this. She saw all
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: these other scientists being murdered, and she was like, I'm out.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Right? Because if you were a scientist, you'd probably be
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: paying attention to other scientists getting whacked.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. On the same projects?
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Especially if somebody started talking.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: You're in an empty office?
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: You're in the coffee station, and someone's like, do you
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: hear what happened to Ted? Ted's dead. He shot himself
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: in the head twice.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: From long range.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute. Anti-gravity Ted? Anti-gravity Ted is dead.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: He killed himself with a sniper rifle. It was pretty crazy.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. I'm going hiking
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: with Monica. I don't fucking trust Monica.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Fuck that.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Monica's trying to kill you.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I don't trust.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: She's out there hiking and Monica turns and waves at her.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I don't trust hiking. She was probably fucking killed by
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: a bear or a mountain lion.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: You could get got.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: My friend Cam, his brother- almost got killed by a
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: mountain lion and had this crazy story about it. And
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: he's like a distance runner. He's one of those ultra
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: marathon guys. And his brother told this video about what
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: had happened to him. He was running down the road
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: and it was like dusk out, like starting to get dark.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: And he saw these eyes, these glowing eyes in the bushes.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: And he yelled at it because he thought it was
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: a coyote. And it stands up and it's a fucking
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: mountain lion. And so then it starts chasing him. And
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: he goes... I couldn't have used pepper spray because if
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: I did, I would have sprayed myself because it was
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: that close.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: He goes, I yelled at it. I kicked rocks at it.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: And he goes, I just ran. He goes, I think
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: the thing that might have saved me was a bunch
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: of dogs were barking.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: And it might have thought the dogs were out there.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: You're not out running a mountain lion.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: No.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: No.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: It was running behind him, but not like 100% committed
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: to killing him yet. Wow.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: That's scary. Yeah, nature is fucking scary.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: And people are like, we need to make an overpass
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: in Los Angeles near these homes so the mountain lion
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: can get across the fucking– no. Any retard mountain lion
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: that goes across the 405 should get obliterated. That's nature.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: That's nature. Hey, you thought that fucking semi wasn't dangerous,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: you retarded cat? That's a retard cat. Yes, it is.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: That cat, probably his brother fucked his sister and that's
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: how he was born. And now he's a dumbass and
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: he's supposed to get taken out by a Subaru.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Did you ever see that? It was like all these
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: inbred tigers. Yeah. Oh, white tigers.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. And they were.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Like fucking goofy.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: They have one at the Austin Zoo.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Retarded tigers.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: We went to visit at the Austin Zoo and you
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: looked at them and you're like, hey, what's going on?
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Their tongues are hanging out.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're goofy looking. A bunch of those white ones
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: are inbred because that's a weird like genetic thing for
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: you to have a white one.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Cute though. I took my son to that tiger, not
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: the Tiger King, but it was the other guy, the
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: ones who's in jail for tax evasion now.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Tiger King's in jail for murder, right?
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. It was one of the guys.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Not for murder, but for like trying to get someone murdered.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: The other guy.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: What the fuck's his name?
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: He was the one who had all the girlfriends.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, the guy who ran the little cult. Yes. The
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: little cult going on. Yeah, dude.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I brought my son there. And it was him, dude.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: He came out when they presented the elephant. It was,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: why am I blanking on his name?
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Eh.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: What was it? Doc Antle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He brought
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: the elephant out himself. Dude, it was such a fun show.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: It was like a half day. It was like four
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: or five hours. So he went to jail for what?
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Tax evasion.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Ah, these fucking pay your taxes people. It's the dumbest
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: way to get got.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. Oh, and money laundering. I'm sorry.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, money laundering. Yeah. Wildlife trafficking and money laundering. That's
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: a lot different than not paying your taxes.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: They have all of these baby tigers that they bring out,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: but they only have like two adult tigers. So what
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: are they doing with these baby tigers?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Go back to that. Hold on. Make
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: that larger. What does it say here? It says 12
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: months for pleading guilty for a conspiracy to violate the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Lacey Act and launder more than $ 500, 000 for what he
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: believed to be an operation to smuggle illegal immigrants into
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: the United States across the Mexico border. This is a
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: lot different than that. He was getting illegal immigrants across
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: the border for money.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. So that's not just like wildlife stuff and taxes.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Like this guy was like illegal immigrant trafficking.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy was a bad dude probably. But he
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: did have a bunch of like just young hot chicks.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I knew a girl that I dated who went and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: interviewed and she was like, it felt like I was
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: interviewing for porn. I showed up and it was like, oh, no, no.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: The other girls were like, oh, you're going to have
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: to like be a part of this.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Well, the thing about this guy. But for a baby tiger, dude,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I got to be honest with you. They're really cute.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: They're adorable.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I get it. Women are so fucking dumb. They're like,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: baby tigers, I'll suck his dick. Fine.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I think they just want to belong to something.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: And this guy comes along and he's charismatic and you
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: belong to his little family. Family of five girls. They're
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: all hanging out together blowing this one fat guy. It's
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: kind of weird.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: He's smuggling Mexicans and murdering baby tigers.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing about those kind of guys. This
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: is what I was going to say about the smuggling
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: and the Mexicans. Those kind of guys are never happy
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: with whatever they've gotten away with. They always want to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: keep pushing. He was not happy that he's an ugly
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: guy with a cult of hot chicks.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: You did it.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: And tigers.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: You're a millionaire. You have tigers and hot chicks.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: That's all you need. You're in a TV show. You're good.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: You're good. You don't have to smuggle in the Mexicans too.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: But those kind of guys are always– they just can't
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: stop pushing.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Can't stop pushing. Can't stop pushing.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think, yeah, it's whatever it is. You, you,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: whatever level it is, you always want to level up
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: no matter what.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: No matter what.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Bobby Kelly said that to me about Louie back in
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: the day. He was like, uh, you know, cause we all,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: we're all, everyone's insecure. Everyone in New York's insecure. Everyone
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: in LA and Austin, you guys fucking, you guys are
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: guys fucking love life. You're just living life to your fullest.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Everyone in New York is like, I'm going to kill myself.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I hate fucking life. It sucks.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I think it's the environment. Yeah.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a rough city. It's a really rough city.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: It's a great city. It's awesome.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's an amazing city.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: But cities in general- It's a weird concept, shoving a
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: bunch of people way too close to each other for
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: long periods of time. It has an effect.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: It's also like it's just a rough city, dude. Even
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: on the highest level, if you're doing well, you still
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: got to fucking walk up those subway stairs and it's
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: just hot air in the summertime down. If you try
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: to take the subway or sitting in New York traffic
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: or just crazy homeless people walking around, you got to
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: really want to be there. To stand it. I did
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: it for 20 years. I moved to the suburbs during
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: the pandemic. Um, and I, I love New York. I
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: still love New York. I go to New York a
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: few times a week still, but it is, uh, it
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: is definitely a young man city where you gotta like,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: you gotta be there to like, I'm trying to become
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: the best comic or a dancer or work on wall
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: street or whatever it is. Like that's true.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: But I know a lot of old people that love
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: it too, man. They'll never leave. They love it.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Well, they get used to the life.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: They love the energy. There's just people around them all
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: the time. There's something going on everywhere. You look, you'd
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: get food at three o'clock in the morning. You could,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: I mean as far– if you're a city person like Ari,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: like it's the greatest place on earth. There's no place
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: like New York City.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Ari spends– I don't even know how much on rent
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: but probably $ 50, 000 a month for a room where you
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: can touch all the walls. It's crazy.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: It's stupid. It's stupid. And now if you're rich and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: you own property and you don't stay there, they're going
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: to tax you more. There's a new thing that– Really?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Mom Donnie just came out with it. It was like, yeah,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: fuck the billionaires. I'm like, OK. Fuck the billionaires until
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: it's fucked a thousandaires.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: It's not even just billionaires. Like we're talking about– you
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: don't have to be particularly wealthy to own property. Like
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: it's a good investment with the money that you have. Right.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: But this particular bill is about more than $ 5 million
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: valued homes.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, OK.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: So if you have an apartment in New York City,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: it's worth more than $ 5 million. You get taxed more. Yeah.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: And he's like saying it won't be that big a
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: deal and it will give the city $ 500 million in taxes.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: extra revenue that they could use for all kinds of
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: things that they want to do, which is great if
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: you've cut out all the fraud, but you haven't. And
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: so you're not even concentrating on the fraud. You're not
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: even admitting the fraud exists. You're not even admitting the
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: waste exists. How about you tell us where all the
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: money to NGOs went? How about you tell us that?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: How about you tell us where all the homeless money went?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: What did you spend it on? There's all these homeless people.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: It seems like someone didn't do a good job and
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: got a lot of money.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: And you want more money? That's the crazy answer.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: And it's also like the idea that rich people are
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: inherently like privileged. It's very bizarre. Like I'm not rich,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: but I do pretty well. Like I do better than,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: you know, much better than the average American financially, you know.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: A lot of people would consider me, you know, pretty
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: well to do. But like I grew up. Welfare, drug
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: addict mother, dad's dad, been almost four years old. I
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: had to fucking, I spent 15 years doing comedy, making
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: $ 0 investing into this thing to hopefully one day on
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the other side of it, be able to reap the
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: benefits of it. So now that I've finally broken through
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: to the other side, you're like, oh, well, no, you
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: don't deserve all that money. We deserve some of that money.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's a weird concept in this country and it's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: because of the billionaire class. So there's a level of
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: the game. Where they've passed so far. See, if everybody
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: only got– this is like what people would like to say.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: You know, being a millionaire is fine. Nobody should be
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: a billionaire.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: We should have a cap on wealth.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: The problem with that is you're going to also have
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: a cap on motivation. So a lot of these people
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: are fucking psychopaths. A lot of these people that run
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: these corporations are fucking psychopaths. And they work 16 hours
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: a day, seven days a week. And the only reason
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: why they do that is because they know that they
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: can make $ 100 billion if they do that. And if
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: you stop that, you're going to stop iPhones. You're not
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: going to have Lenovo laptops. You're not going to have
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: any of these things. That's where it's weird for people.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Like you're not going to have an Amazon unless you
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: have a guy who's a billionaire. Like it's not going
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: to– see, the thing is– People love to just– No,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: it's not fair. You're right. It's not fair. And here's
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: the thing.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: Would it be better? It is fair. Kind of. Life
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: is kind of fair in.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: A weird way. Hope, please. Depending on how you treat
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: your employees.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: OK. OK.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: That's where we decide whether or.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Not it's fair. So you're saying that Amazon doesn't treat
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: their employees well?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: I hear that a lot. I hear that a lot too.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's true. But what I do
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: know is that there's a lot of fucking complaints. And
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: if there's a lot, whether it's smoke, probably some fire.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: I know that there's like some efficiency things where you
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: have like a clock ticks off. Like if you order
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: a fucking box of legal pads.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: You know, those little notebooks. You have to– this guy
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: has to get that in the box in like 30
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: seconds or whatever the fuck it is. So he has
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: to run around. Like people are literally like moving quickly.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Around the warehouse.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like– you hear stories. And once again, you
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: have to take everything with a grain of salt. Like
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: employees become bitter sometimes. You know what I'm saying? Like
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: most people hate their boss.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: True, but that job does sound like it sucks and
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: it sounds like you're asking people to run around because
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: you want to make the most money possible. But you're
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: paying them not that great. Like that's a weird one
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: because you're also setting up the inevitable, which is robots.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Because they're going to be able to do that way
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: easier and quicker. They're going to know exactly where the
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: product is. They're not going to have to look on
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: their fucking little iPad. They're going to know exactly where
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: it is. They're going to go right to it, package it.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: They're going to print out instantaneously the label. They're never
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: going to take a leak. They don't need food.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: They never complain?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: You're fucked no matter what because they're going to lay
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: off a bunch of people. There's no if, ands, or.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Buts about that. Oh, yeah. That is going to be
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: really effective. You're talking about how AI and robots are
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: going to affect certain industries, driving, factory workers, things like that.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: That's all just going away.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the real threat to your job, not the billionaires.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: The thing is you see a guy, whether it's Elon
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Musk or someone, I think Elon's supposedly worth $ 800 billion now.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: People just get really angry. They really get upset. And
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: think about how much that would help if he gave
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: his money away. And I get what you're saying. But
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: the problem is. Give the money away to who? Give
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: the money away to the people that have fucked up
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: the money that we've already given them? You've got to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: be honest about– look, the idea is great. Wouldn't it
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: be wonderful if Elon Musk just gave away $ 100 billion
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: and we completely fixed all poverty?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Homelessness is gone.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: No more food problems. everyone no starvation on earth the idea.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: That throwing money at homeless people is just going to
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: fix the problem exactly I mean, believe me, I have empathy.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not going like, oh, fuck the homeless. I don't
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: have that attitude at all. But at the same time,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: it's like wherever you go, there you are.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: The idea of giving the government money to fix things
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: is insane.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's crazy. That's insane. That's actually– if you ever
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: try to– That's why this tax thing is crazy. If
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: you ever try to go to a government building, you
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: see the inefficiency. If you just try to call to
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: get some information about your taxes, if you try to
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: call the IRS– You see the inefficiency. You're like, there's
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: no fucking way, dude. And it's just honestly, it's designed
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: to be that way. It's designed to be really intricate
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: and difficult. And there's a lot of people that have
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: to get paid. So it's like that. And that's why
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: I was so excited about Elon and Trump getting together
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: and doing the doge. Yeah, doge. I was like, what
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: a great idea. Two real brilliant business minds trying to
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: figure out government efficiency and trying to save us money.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, they're going to do it. Of course,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: nothing happened.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: Well, some things happened. A lot of things did get
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: shut down and it also opened up a lot of
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: people's eyes to the understanding of what an NGO is
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: and where the money goes. And when people found out
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: how many NGOs there are and how much money gets spent,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: they're like, wait, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: we get an accounting of this stuff? Like this sounds nuts.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: There's so much money that's being sent out to these
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: nonprofits and these organizations. Like did you see here when
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Spencer Pratt was on the podcast?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: He's running for mayor of New York– or excuse me,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: of Los Angeles. And one of the things that he
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: was talking about was the fire aid. Like so the
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: money that they generated, over $ 100 million was generated for
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: the people that lost their homes in the Pacific Palisades fire.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: All of it went to these NGOs. Like it went
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: to– he said– what did he say? 20 different– how
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: many different– 200 different? I think it was 200 different.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: 200 different nonprofits.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Got the money that was supposed to go to the houses,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: the people that lost their house.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: $ 100 billion and they just divvied it.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Up amongst these nonprofits. And how much of that money,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: 20 percent, goes to actual people?
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: The rest is– They don't even know how many people
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: are getting benefit from it.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean if you– there's like lists of like
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: charities and nonprofits and how– what the percentage is that
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: actually goes.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: To help people.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: But this one is insane.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: They divvied it up between 200 different nonprofits. How about
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: give it to the people? Because the thing about these nonprofits,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: they rely on that kind of money in order to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: pay their staff. And some of these– you find out
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: some of these people that are working for these government agencies.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: This is another thing that Spencer has uncovered. There's like
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: a ton of them that are making more than a
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: half a million dollars a year.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: But there's a weird thing with like the nonprofits. Like,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: all right, if you have to attract like a CEO
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: from like a major corporation– to come and make this
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: nonprofit efficient and to really generate as much revenue as possible.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Like if they're making more money because they have a
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: really competent CEO and a really competent staff and only
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: 20% of it is going to help people, but it's
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: still 200% of what the next company is doing, I
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: guess it's worth it, right?
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: Well, the thing is they're not a company. They're the government.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: So they're not held accountable. They're not supposed to be efficient.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: They don't have to be profitable. They don't have to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: do like a good audit of their business. This is
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: one of the things that Elon said. If any of
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: these fucking companies– he's like if any one of them
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: that like where they just sent out billions of dollars
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: and they have no accounting and no receipts for it.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: He goes if you are a part of a publicly
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: traded company, you would be tried– Your company would lose
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: its credit. Yeah. Your company would fall off the stock market.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: It would be like a bullshit company now. And you
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: would go to jail. That's totally illegal. But in government,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: it's standard practice. So the inefficiency is built in. I
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: was reading something about California. Tell me if this is true.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: They were talking about California's– see, put this into perplexity. California,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: the percentage of people that live in California went up
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: by a small amount. But the percentage of government went
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: up by a large amount. The percentage of people with
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: government jobs went up considerably, whereas the population didn't go up.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true. This is why
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: I want to have it looked up. But when you
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: just stop and think about the fact that it's a
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: business to hire people to be inefficient and that it's
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: within your best interest to not just never be efficient
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: and never solve the problem because if you do, you're
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: out of a job. But also to make the problem
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: bigger every year so you could hire more people and
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: get a bigger raise and a bigger thing. And that's
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: why this homeless thing in California, it's like more than
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: $ 24 billion they spent on the homeless.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: On what though? What are they doing? Exactly.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: What are they?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: So they've tried to get audits and Newsom has vetoed
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: the audits.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Which is crazy that they could say, no, you can't
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: find out if any fraud or any waste has happened
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: with tax dollars. No, we're going to stop that investigation.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Well, that's crazy. Yeah, and that's– I would vote for
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: almost anybody who– if they just said, I'm going to
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: cut your taxes in half, they have my vote.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: The problem is what are you doing with the taxes?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: There should– if AI has a role in solving this,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: what AI should be able to do is like we
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: should say, yeah, you– tax me a fair amount, I'm
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: happy to pay taxes. If it's going to public schools
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: and public roads, I absolutely feel very happy to contribute
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: and I want the world to be a better place
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: because of my tax dollars. But also, where's it going?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: It's going to bomb school children overseas and to fund
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: wars that most people don't want.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: And transgender dancing in Indonesia.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: Is that a thing that's happening?
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, there's weird shit. They spent $ 250 million doing transsexual
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: operations on animals, experimenting on animals to turn them trans. No, no,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: no bullshit. No bullshit. I think it was $ 251 million.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they spent $ 2 million giving cocaine to dogs. California's
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: population has dipped slightly since 2020, while government jobs have
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: been one of the few areas of job growth. So, yes,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: government employee employment has generally increased even as the population
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: growth stalled or reversed. So what is the percentage? So
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: total job growth has slowed sharply. Statewide employment grew by
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: only about half of a percent in twenty twenty three percent.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: then actually fell slightly down about 11,200 jobs or 0.1%
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: in 2025. State overall is only a few percent in
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: jobs compared with before the pandemic, and it lags the
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: national growth rate. So how many more jobs? What's the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: percentage more?
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Is it because people are leaving California?
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: So it says in 2025, private employers– there's a lot
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: of that– cut about 31,000 jobs while government employers added
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: about 20,200 jobs, driven mostly by a gain of 45,800
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: local government positions. So they added 45,000 government positions while
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: private employers cut 31,000 jobs. So they just keep making
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: the government bigger. So the economy fuels the government. The
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: government controls the economy. It's all nuts.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, when you say government job, that's like
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: people like a clerk that works in like the courthouse.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: That also counts, right?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But they also do weird shit like they have
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: to have new regulations.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: They have to have people that make regulations now and
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: justify their jobs if there's a lot of government jobs.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: So then you get wacky rulings like California recently. They're
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: banning blackjack in casinos. No more blackjack.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Why not blackjack?
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: Putting a foot down. No more blackjack in River City.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Why no blackjack? I don't understand it.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: No one understands it.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any fucking sense.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: You can play poker. You can't play blackjack.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: How about fuck you? Stay away from me. Yeah.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: How about if I earn $ 2, 000 in a week and
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: I want to take $ 500 and go to the casino
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: and try to win more or lose it, how about
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: fuck you? Yeah, stay the fuck out of it. How
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: about you leave me the fuck alone? You're just another
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: human being. You should have no opinion.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Well, the government wants to get their hands in every vice.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: Because they know we can't give up our vices. We
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: can't give up alcohol and weed and cigarettes and gambling
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: and prostitution.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: They're not getting rid of gambling. That's the thing. They're
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: still paying. The casinos still pay taxes.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: You just eliminated one of their fucking ways to make money.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Is there a public reason why they've said it?
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: I'd like to find out.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: Let's find out. What's the public reason?
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Because blackjack's my only game.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: That's it? Do you know what you're doing or are
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: you a wild motherfucker who hits at 17?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: No, I'm good at blackjack. I mean, I'm good. I
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: know the rules of the book and I play by
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: the rules and I sit down at the table expecting
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: to lose everything and if I don't, I'm happy. That's it.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jamie wants some money. Shane wants some money.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Blackjack? Yeah.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: They were doing pretty good. Watching Dana White do it
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: gives you fucking anxiety though, dude.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Just like crazy bets?
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: He was $ 600, 000 down when I met him there. Oh, no.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, dude, this is crazy. And I was
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: watching these people. That kid, Aiden Ross, you know, that
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: streamer kid? That kid lost a million bucks. I'm just like, oh,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: he lost a million. I'm like, how much is he making?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: I take $ 500 out every time.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Jimmy?
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: According to this, it was banned from card rooms, not casinos.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: It's kind of a different thing.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. It is a card room where they
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: play poker. That's right. Because their casinos are different. Their
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: casinos are only like in Indian places, right?
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: It says this whole– Reservations, yeah.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: Same thing in Jersey, New York.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: The 90s.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: So that's right. But what is– wait a minute. What's
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: the bicycle club? Casino? Isn't that a casino?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know who runs it.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: But it's on– it's in California like– it's in like
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Orange County. Bicycle Club Casino. So the reason why I
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: know about that place is I used to go there
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: to watch professional pool tournaments. And then that was the
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: first time I realized like, oh, there's a casino in California,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: like right off the highway. I think it's off. What
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: highway is that off of? But it's like if you're
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: going down to like doing a gig in San Diego,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: you'll pass by this place if you go down one
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: of the roads.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: 710.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: 710.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. But so what is that? Do
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: they have blackjack there? Because I know they had poker there.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: You know, Ari Shaffir, during his early days of comedy,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: would make a living going to poker tournaments.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Playing? Yeah.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: That's how good he is at poker.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, man. He would snap off poker tournaments all
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: Some people are good. Like, it's just a patience thing.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Well, he just plays it like, for him, it was
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: a job. He's like, I play it like it was
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: a job. He's like, these people all get drunk and
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: they all get high and they're all fucking stupid. They
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: make dumb choices. He goes, I play smart against idiots
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: and they get drunk and I win money.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: It says it's technically a poker card room. This says
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: they have blackjack, but maybe they fell in the rules
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: where they're not allowed to have it now, too.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: Right. Three card poker and baccarat. We were talking about
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: baccarat the other day because that's what Dana White's moved
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: to because you can't have more money.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Is that like, it's kind of like blackjack, but no,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the Asian one. What's the Asian one?
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what baccarat is.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: It's three cards you got to get.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: How many cards is baccarat? I have no idea how
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: to play it. I don't know what it is. I've
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: just heard it before.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: I've heard that name before. I've never looked into it.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I look at it as like going
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: to– like I don't like baseball. But like I go
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: to a baseball game and eat hot dogs and drink beer.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: It's like the same thing as casino. Like I'm not
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: a big gambler. I'm like I'm just going to drink
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to have fun, hang out with a chick.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: It just seems like you can't win.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: And it's also what are you doing? What are you doing?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Just rolling dice every day? That's crazy. That's a– You're
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: spiking your adrenaline every day, rolling dice for your fucking mortgage.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's just a game with stakes.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: Baccarat is a comparing card game played between two hands,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: the player and the banker. Each Baccarat coup round of
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: play has three possible outcomes. Player, player has the higher score, banker,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: and tie. Okay.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they like it because it's one quick bet. And
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: you can bet up to 500K per hand, I think.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: And then you can also tie, so you don't lose.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: It's not a win or lose.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Big swings.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: Big swings. Big, fast swings.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: Have you played it?
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: No, but I watch people play these games and go
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: through it.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Look, I admire their balls, especially poker players. You've got
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: to be a smart motherfucker to win those big World
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: Series of poker things and make a bunch of money
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: playing poker.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was one of my favorite scenes from Rounders
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: where they talk about how– I always use that like
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: analogy in life where they talk about people are like, oh,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: they think it's luck. They think it's the luck of
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: the draw. And it's like if it was luck, why
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: is it the same eight guys at the final table
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: of the World Series of Poker every single year?
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: It's like you're not playing the cards. You're playing the game.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: You're playing each other. I kind of like look at
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: that like in life and I'm like the cards don't
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: really matter as much as how you play them.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a complicated game. But why is that okay
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: but blackjack isn't? Like who fucking says? Like says who?
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: Says who?
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: Why? Why?
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: Why more regulations? I'll tell you why. Because they have
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: to justify all these fucking extra jobs. That's a lot
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: of where regulations come from. And it's also– it's fun.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: You could tell people what to do. No more flavored zins.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like all these like just like weird things.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: Like there's like weird laws. I live in Bergen County,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: New Jersey, and it's like they have blue laws still.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know what that is.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: Those are the best. Sunday.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Sunday, no. Like, no, you can't buy clothes. You can't
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: buy like furniture.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: You can't buy clothes?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: You can't buy clothes on Sundays.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: Walmart. What if you shit your pants?
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: Walmart.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: What if you shit your pants and you're new to town?
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: You're fucked.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: You got to walk around in snow like shit. But
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: Walmart in New Jersey, they rope off the clothing section.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: They have it set up to where, like, you literally
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: can't go past it. You still buy food, but you
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: can't go to the clothing section.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: When I was a kid, there was no alcohol for
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: sale in Sundays in Massachusetts.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: And so we had to go to New Hampshire to
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: get beer. So we'd make what we call a packy
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: run because they would call them package stores. And, you know,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: with that Boston accent, mush, you want to go to
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: the packy?
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Everyone's got a nickname in Boston.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: Everybody was mush. There was a time– this was a
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Newton North thing, and people from Massachusetts– I think maybe
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: people still use this, but they would– instead of dude,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: it would be mush. Mush. Everybody was mush. Mush. We going? Mush.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: We going out? Like girls would say to you, mush,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: you taking me out? It was weird. And it's only
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: this one part of the city had mush. Like my
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: part didn't have mush, but a few people tried it out.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: It started catching on with my part of the city.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: But in Newton North, I was in Newton South. Newton North,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: everybody was mush. It was like everybody's nickname. It was
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: like a virus of language went through the entire city.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: Dude, thick accents from certain American cities on women are
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: just so unattractive.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: That's a rough one. Boston, you've got to be really
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: hot to bypass that accent. Boston, Philly.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: You meet a girl from Philly. It's a rough one.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: Hard girls, but probably a lot of fun. Oh, yeah.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: So we'd have to drive to New Hampshire. So we'd
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: have to drive an hour and a half to go
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: get booze.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: No, that exists in certain places still. In New Jersey,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: it's like you can't– yeah, it's got to be a
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: liquor store specifically. You can't buy beer in a supermarket.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: I grew up in the suburbs in New York, so
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: you could buy beer in the supermarket. They made it
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: where you couldn't buy wine for a while. Then for
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: a couple of years, you could buy wine. It's all
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: these dumb fucking laws.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: They're all Chick-fil-A laws.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Exactly.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Chick-fil-A is so silly. They take Sundays off for
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: the Lord.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: Like, bro, you're grinding chickens up with titanium and aluminum
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: in it. Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But it's good. It's fucking delicious.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Goddamn, it's delicious.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: If you just make a delicious sandwich, I don't care
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: what your beliefs are.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: It's so delicious that even gay people eat there. Think
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: All the shit that guy's talked about the gays. The
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: gay people are like, put it aside and have the chicken. Whatever.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: He's just a bitch. But they got, what is that
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: weird ingredient that we found out was in the bread?
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: It was something kooky, right?
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's aluminum something or other, but it's in a
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: lot of things.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's in there.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: It's in there.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: I've seen something about the blue light. You can't buy
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: a car on Sunday in Texas.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: That's wild. Yeah, it's just so weird.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: It's funny. So there's a mall in New Jersey. The mall...
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Not Mall of America. American Dream Mall. Huge, huge, huge mall.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: One of these super malls, right? Like a fucking... There's
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: a water park inside. There's a... A water park?
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: There's a ski... You can learn skiing. Shut up. It's
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: like a fake ski hill.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: Like a fake snow hill?
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Year-round, you can take ski and snowboard lessons.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, that would help so much.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: It's so cool, dude. It's really cool. They got like
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: a bunch of escape rooms. It's just a massive, massive mall.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: That's nuts. Yeah, inside, dude. They got a water park.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: They got a Nickelodeon Studios. There's like a theme park
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: inside of the mall. It's a crazy mall. And they
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: just said, fuck it. We're opening Sundays. There's a big
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: sign right on the side. It's like we're open Sundays.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: We don't care. And Paramus is suing them. Paramus is
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest shopping cities in the country.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: Imagine the government is saying you can't do business with
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people that want to come to your business.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Because it's a different day.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Fuck you. What's funny is it's not the government.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: I looked into this because I was going like, what
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: the fuck's going on here? The people, all these old
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: fucking people that have been living in this community forever.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: it goes to a vote and every year they go, no, no, no,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: we don't want traffic. We want Sundays in Bergen County
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: to be fucking relaxing and nice and beautiful because there's
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: no taxes. I think, but I believe to this day
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: on clothing, there's no taxes in Jersey. So we would
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: do our school shopping in Jersey. When I was growing up,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: we would just drive 30 minutes to Bergen County and
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: go to the mall and you save money on taxes.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but yeah, that, that mall was just like,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: fuck it. And then a huge sign. I'm talking about like,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: The mall's so big. The sign, I don't even know
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: how you would make a sign this fucking big, but
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: it's just draped down the side.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: We're open on Sundays.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: They didn't give a fuck.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: So are they getting sued now?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: They're getting sued by Paramus.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: I bet they're going to win.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: Because it doesn't make sense. That law is stupid. Do
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: you need business? Yes. Is the economy down? Yes. Wouldn't
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: it be better if people had the option to be
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: able to go to the fucking mall on Sunday? Especially
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: if somebody works every fucking day.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: And maybe they have to work Saturday as well. And
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: Sunday is their only day off. How about let them
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: go there to buy some pants? You fucking control freak.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: Let him buy a fucking hat. What's wrong with you?
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: You fucking idiot. We're the government. We got guns. You
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: can't shop here. Fuck you, man. That's the problem. The
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: problem is these fucking dipshits just keep adding more and
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: more regulations. It's dumb. What else can't you do in
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: Texas on Sunday? What was that one that was dumb
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: that you just said?
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: Can't buy a car.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: Can't buy a car. That's so stupid.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: You couldn't sell things on consecutive weekend days, so everybody
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: just sort of picked Saturday, it says. Huh.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: You can't buy liquor on Sundays here.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: Still in Texas?
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: You can in a restaurant, but not at a store.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: So at the supermarket, what do they do? They say,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: we can't sell you that because it's Sunday? It's the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: Lord's Day. We can't sell. We can sell you beer.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: You could drink yourself to death on some hooch. They'll
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: give you some wine.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Like you go to one city, it's like, it's so strict.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: And you go to like New Orleans and like, they're like,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: they just have like people hand you a beer out
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: a window. You just walk down the street. You're partying
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: in the streets. Like, It's such a weird like differentiation
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: between like each jurisdiction.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were doing a gig down there and the
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: guy who was a driver, he was telling me about
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: how he went somewhere else and the cops pulled him
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: over because he had an open drink and he was
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: walking down the street. And the cop goes, where are
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: you from? And he goes, New Orleans. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: You can't do that anywhere else.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: That thing that you do there. You can do it
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: in Vegas.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: Can you? You can walk down the street with a beer? Yeah.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: That's good. I think you can do it on 6th
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: Street in Austin. Can you? No. You can't? No.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: I think people do it.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: People definitely do it.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: They definitely do it. I've seen them.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you're allowed to.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: Well, is there any enforcement of that law?
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: That's probably not the main thing they're worried about, I
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: don't think, most days.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: Boy, a lot of sloppy fights on 6th Street.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: There's entire YouTube and Instagram pages dedicated to 6th Street fights.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Just brutal. I saw one. I don't know if it
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: was 6th Street, but I saw one where there was
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: a dude who obviously had wrestling experience. Oh, yeah. I mean, dude,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: he suplexed this dude. He paralyzed the guy.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: He suplexed the guy.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: On the concrete?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: Completely laid out.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, Jesus Christ.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: And it's like, God damn, dude, just like that, two
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: lives over. This guy, he's now in a wheelchair for
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: the rest of his life. This guy is going to
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: fucking jail. That's that.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: Over not being able to control your emotions.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're not allowed to do that in Austin.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: Only on certain events when it's like a festival or something.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: God, booze is so bad for people. Yeah. Booze and
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: being a young man and being foolish.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: Ego.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ego.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: Just the need to prove yourself.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, also, like, you're a wrestler. You really know how
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: to wrestle. You're going to pile drive this dude into
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: the concrete.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: It's weird, because it's usually, it's guys that don't know
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: how to fight that are doing stupid shit. Guys that
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: know how to fight, typically... Well, maybe.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: The other guy had it coming. I don't know what happened.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: But no one has that coming. But, I mean, maybe
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: he started the fight. I don't, you know, I shouldn't
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: have said that.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Had it coming, but.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: Having any kind of an altercation on the concrete is
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: so fucking dangerous. Dudes die all the time when they
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: get KO'd. And most guys, especially sucker punch guys, and
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: they just fall back and the whole weight of their
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: body bangs off the back of their head. It is
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: so devastating. You might as well hit them with a
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: fucking giant metal crowbar. You might as well. It's worse
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: than getting hit with a baseball bat probably. That falls
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: so scary, and I've seen it so many times, man, online.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just six feet straight back. Your head just cracks
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: on the concrete.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: And it's all that leverage from all of your weight.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: It's like a whip on the back of your head.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: Your head's cracked wide open, man.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: There's a guy who just got in trouble for just
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: pushing some dude who's having a bad day, just push
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: this old guy to the ground guy cracked this.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: On the floor died I saw that yeah yeah I
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: saw that.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: And the guy was like that was his argument or
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: his defense was like I was having a really bad
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: day oh Jesus Christ you're fucking nuts dude people are
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: insane I.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: Know how about the people that push people in front
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: of subways how fucking psycho is that yeah these people
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: wait they wait for a subway to come in and
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: they want to push somebody in front of it just
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: to watch and then you have to like stand around
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: hoping that one of those people isn't here while you're.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Ready to get on your train yes dude yeah In
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: a place like New York or a really urban sort
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: of environment where there's fucking lots of crazies walking around, yeah,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: you got to really just keep your eyes open, man.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: You got to be ready to sprawl.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: Don't fall asleep. You might get lit on fire. That happens.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: That's happening all the time. That happened, I guess it
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: is just the trends, but it happened like three or
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: four times over the course of a year where it
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: was like homeless people lighting other homeless people on fire.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: The crazy thing is like Homelessness and crime are New
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: York City's two number one problems that keep you unsafe.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: Those are the two that keep you unsafe. Not a mention.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: Not a mention. It's like we need more tax money.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: Don't say you're going to use that to open up
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: grocery stores. There's grocery stores already here, motherfucker. What you
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: need to do is stop all these crazy motherfuckers lighting
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: people on fire, pushing people in front of trains, like
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: clean it up. Yeah. And then the world would be perfect.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: Most of the time you hear about those people, they've
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: been arrested 93 times for violent crimes.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the 92 times, the last one was a mistake.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty fucking goofy.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: Can I see a little bit of that?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: Get some of that. People have that many arrests and
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: they just let them right back up.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: Cheers, sir. Cheers, my friend.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: They are.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: It's like... You know, you want to be nice. You
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: want to be kind. You want to give people the
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. You want to give people a
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: second chance. You don't want to put people in jail.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: The prison system is horrible. But also, when somebody gets
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: arrested 93 times, take a hint. Yeah.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: There's bad apples.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: But then, like, somebody will, like, you know, for tax evasion,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: they'll get 30 years in prison or something like that. Like,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: it's such a weird, bizarre system that we have.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: You get released 93 times for stabbing people.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, you know. But if you insider trade,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: lock that motherfucker up.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: That's it, dude.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: There's nothing worse that you can do is not give
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: the government their fucking money.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: Ooh, they get real testy.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: They don't like it. They don't like it. They need
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: their cut. But it's also like, there's too much. There's
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: too much government. And that's like a standard Republican thing
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: to say, but just clearly it's true. Clearly it's true
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: just by the market. If you see the California lost
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: jobs and then gained government jobs, it's like, At what
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: point in time do you get cynical and start saying
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: maybe they're adding government jobs to make it look like
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: jobs went up? Yeah, right. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: It's weird that it's like a– Because that's– when they
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: say job market increased, job growth by 15 percent. Like, oh, wow.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: He's doing a great job. Jobs went up by 15 percent.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: And then you find out, oh, they're all invented jobs.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: Government just invented a bunch of fake jobs that they
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: didn't need.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. When you hear that it's like a tenet of
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: like the Republicans now to be like smaller government, it's
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: like it flip-flopped.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like bananas.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: It's like people on the left. They're like so pro government.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: They're like, we just need more. We need more regulation,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: more government.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: When did that happen?
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: It's a it's a crazy thing. I just grew up
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: as like a liberal in the 90s where it's like.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: Don't trust the government.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Don't trust the government.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, wars are bad. Don't trust the government. These were simple,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: basic things that you're just growing up believing. And yeah,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: it's we need more government. We need to take taxes
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: away from people. That's the thing about having- We want
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: to pay more taxes. That's insane.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: Well, they don't want to pay more taxes. They want
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: billionaires to pay more taxes. But that's the thing. How
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: many billionaires were there when we were kids? Fucking none. Three.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: You didn't hear about it?
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: Rockefeller. Well, yeah. That was the only name you'd hear.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: A couple of names that you would hear, but it
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be really a common term.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: You know? There wasn't that many to talk about. I
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: remember there was some- Bill Gates Microsoft thing back in
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: the day. And I remember they had like his net
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: worth was like $ 50 million. And I was like, Jesus,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: why is he still working? You know what I mean? Meanwhile,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: it's worth hundreds of billions now. Like that wasn't a
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: normal thing when we were kids. Like, let's Google this. What,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: how many, oh, here we go.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: 82, the year I was born, 13 billionaires. That's crazy.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nuts. So, In 1982, 13 billionaires. In 2026,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: 989 billionaires. Wow.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: Inflation counts for something as well.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: No. That's nuts, dude. That's nuts. 989 is nuts. That's
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: so much more. Bro, let me say that again. That
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: is so crazy. 13 to 989 is nuts. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: So that's the problem. It's not that billionaires are a problem.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: The problem is that there's so many of them. And
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: the problem is it's become like a class. And you
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: look at this class of people that have achieved this
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: insane amount of wealth. And you're like, you should give
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: me some of that.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: But when I hear about billionaires, I'm going like, how
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: do I do that? Like, I was going like, and
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: obviously I don't think I'll ever become a billionaire. That's
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: a crazy, crazy number.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: I'll probably say I likely won't. But like when I
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: hear that, when you hear about Bezos or Steve Jobs
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: or any of these people, like I get inspired. I
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: hear their stories and I'm like, that's fucking so cool.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: They took an idea and they turned it into a
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: billion fucking dollars. That's magic. You say words into the
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: air and then it becomes that. Like that's a crazy thing.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Like I'm an old school sales guy. So I always
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: think of like I'm very impressed with like, you know,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: just overall just like sales structure and business and the
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: way it's built out. And it's like it's the closest
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: thing in the world to magic.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: It's like when you're in sales, you say a bunch
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: of words, bippity boppity boo. And then money appears in
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: your bank account. Right. It's like that's it. Comedy to
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: comedy is like magic. I was like, you figure out
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: where to pause, what to say, how to say it,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: what you do. And then all of a sudden you
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: have fans and you're touring. You have some cash and
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: you have a car. It's like I'm just saying things.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not picking anything up. I'm not like.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: The thing about businesses, though, what you're saying about the
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: sales thing is like the sales is the voodoo in
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: order to like close a deal. The thing that people
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: have a problem with is that like when someone is
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: at a very high level of this company, like say
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: if you work for a giant corporation and the CEO
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: is making you know what's like the most amount of
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: seat what's the highest paid CEOs national salary annual salary
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: let's take a guess is it is it Elon no
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: like a like their annual salary someone's just a CEO
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: of a company those guys are like founders right it's
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: also there's another another level to that right Like he's
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: the CEO of SpaceX, but he's also the founder of
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: SpaceX or one of them. It's like, what is, so
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: let's say, let's just pick a company. Let's say CEO
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: of Walmart. Walmart's a huge company. How much does that
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: guy get a year? Let's take a guess.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: Walmart?
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: Six million.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: Damn. I bet you're right. That sounds about right. Six, seven,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing. Two. Maybe two. I'm going low. You're going low.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: Well, you should break it down a little more than that.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: And it's also not the salary. They get like shares.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's base salary. There's incentives.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: And then there's stock awards.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: So it's just how much did the CEO of Walmart
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: make in 2025? Total compensation, $ 27. 5 million.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: Base salary is $ 1.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: 5 million. So you.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: Were close to the base salary. So close.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: And so their incentives is just to make the most
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: amount of money possible. And if you could keep that
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: bitch running nice and smooth and cut waste and fire
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: people and use AI, you can keep jacking up that rate.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: That's where people have a problem with it. It's like
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: you're a part of the team, right? You're a part
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: of the Walmart team, but yet you're fucking dispensable. But
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: yet you're not because if you didn't exist, they wouldn't
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: be able to sell anything because you're the people working
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: at the cash register. You're the people stocking the shelves.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: You have the people that are working in the delivery department,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: bringing the stuff, putting it away. I agree. Without those people,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: you literally have no business.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: The problem is that those people– I mean in the
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: most literal sense of the term, they're dispensable. There's another
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: person that will step in and do that job and
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: Bezos is not. There's one Jeff Bezos. There's one Elon Musk.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: There's one Steve Jobs. And by the way, you are
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: sitting at a cash register. You can also go down
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: that path and risk it all and put everything into something, right?
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: That's true. I hear those stories. I don't– I mean
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: I just– once again, I grew up so poor. I
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: grew up like– my first job I worked at– my
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: first job was at 11. I was very young. But
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: like my first like real job, I was 16. I
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: was working at KFC for $ 5. 25 an hour. And I
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: could have just chosen that to be my life for
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: the rest of my life. Or I could have said,
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: all right, well, look, this is like my first job.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: I'm learning how to put a little money in the bank.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to buy a car. And then it's the
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: next thing and the next thing and the next thing.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: We're talking about different things. So first of all, for
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: entry level jobs, yes. Like entry level jobs that people
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: get in high school and maybe even in college, just
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: making a little money on the side while you're doing
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: something else. But full time jobs, if you're a full
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: time employee at somewhere like Walmart and you're barely getting
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: by and the top dog is making 27 million, that's
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: kind of crazy. And are you replaceable? Yeah. Yeah, you're replaceable.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: But aren't you also valuable? Oh, look at the top guys.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: Top guys. Jeez.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: Have you ever even heard of these two companies?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: Patrick Smith from Axon made $ 164 million.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: Wow. They make police body cameras and tasers.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. So they get government contracts.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: And then this company.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: So the top CEO- who makes police body cameras, a
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: company that makes police body cameras, he got $ 164 million.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: God bless him.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: Good for him. It's a lot of money.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: It's a 410,000% increase in pay, it says.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: Whoopsies. Just got an extra little bump. Got a little bump.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: I wonder what kind of raise you get, which is crazy.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: That's where all that tax money went.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: I swear to all, a lot of it does go
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: in that direction. But if you're working for that company
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: making police body cameras and you're making $ 20 an hour,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: you got to get pissed. You're like, what the fuck, man?
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: This is crazy. Like I'm not saying that the guy
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: who makes the body cameras make the same amount as
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: the CEO.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: But I am saying it should probably.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: Be a little– They could pay him $ 22 an hour.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: A little better. Yeah. A little better. Like if you're
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: making that much money– Why wouldn't you pay a little
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: bit more?
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: Well, great companies do for the most part, right? Really
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: good companies take care.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: Of their employees. What's a great example of a company
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: that really takes care of their employees?
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: Gas Digital.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: Gas Digital. Good. Okay. But what about other real companies?
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: All of my producers are going like, fuck you. Every
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: one of them.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: But I mean like a big-ass company where they're making
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: billions of dollars. What's like the one where people are like, damn,
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: if you work for them, you get taken care of?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: There should be something like that. Starbucks is a company
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: that apparently takes care of their employees. I know they
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: pay for college. They do things like that.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: Here's the problem. The problem is they're publicly traded. And
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: when they're publicly traded, if you're a CEO, you literally
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: have an obligation to your shareholders to make the most
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: money possible. And so that doesn't mean give everybody a
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: big fat raise because payroll is a big part of
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: your expenses. And if you– You have thousands of employees
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: and you just jack them all up to a higher wage.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: You're losing– you're hemorrhaging money from that.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: I mean it's also like if you just pay your
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: employees a little bit better, just a very simple concept.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: They're going to want to be at work. They're going
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: to be happy to be there. They're going to be
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: excited to be there. Your company will thrive. The amount
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: of people that just show up at work and they
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: maybe work an hour a day, two hours a day,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: and the rest of the time is just kind of
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: bullshitting on the internet, you don't really want that culture anymore.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of what you get when you're underpaying people.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: 100%. That's why In-N-Out is always so good. If you
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: go to In-N-Out Burger in California, they're always like the
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: friendliest staff because people get paid more there. It's like
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: a tricky job to get in that regard. Like if
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: you had a choice between like McDonald's, Jack in the Box, In-N-Out,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: everybody wants In-N-Out. Of course.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: It's also better. It's just much better. It tastes better.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: It smells better. California, anywhere, New York, they're just so mean.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: You go to a burger spot, it's like, what? I
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: don't know how often you go to like a 7-Eleven
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: or one of these types of places. It's a new
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: thing that they're doing. If you buy things, they don't
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: bag it for you anymore. What? They put the bag
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: on the counter and stare at you.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: I have to bag my own. I swear to God.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: I swear to God, dude.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: What kind of attitude is that?
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. I don't know if it's everywhere, but in
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: New York, New Jersey, they go, first of all, they
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: don't even give you a bag. They just put the
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: stuff on the counter and they go, all right, thank you.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: And you're like, can I have a bag? They're like,
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: that'll be another 80 cents.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: 80 cents for a bag? For real?
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: You got to pay for a bag. And then they
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: hand you the bag. You have to bag it yourself
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: like a cuck.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I know a lot of people that bring those
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: fucking hemp bags and look like weird greenies.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: I have 300 hemp bags sitting at home.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: My own homemade bag.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: Do they do that in Texas? Do they give you
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: like paper bags here or what do they do? Paper
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: or plastic. Jersey, we don't have that. We have no bags.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: That's LOL.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: In Jersey, you have to bring your own cloth bags
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: where you can buy them for like $ 1. 50 a bag
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: at the supermarket. And I never bring my bags. I
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: always forget them. So you keep having new bags. I
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: got 300 bags. I pick up my dog shit. I
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: pick up my dog shit with fucking cloth bags from
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: shop right now.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: So they cost $ 1.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: 50?
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: Something like that, yeah.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: What a scam.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: But the idea is most, I think, responsible people or
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: people that are conscious about money, I'm just irresponsible with spending,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: they probably do bring their own bags. A lot of
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: them do.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: What if you just moved there and you're like, oh
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: my God, what kind of retarded state did I move to?
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: They don't sell bags. You have to buy a bag.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: They don't give you a bag. I'm sure there's been
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: plenty of studies on how much are they saving the
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: environment by not allowing plastic bags or straws or any
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: of that stuff.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're- None of it? Not a fucking- dent,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: especially straws. Straws are worse for you. Those new straws,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: like if you get a straw that's a paper straw,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: do you know that's not just paper? Because it can't be.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: There's a whole coating inside of that that keeps it
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: from getting wet, like the paper from dissolving in your hand.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: I think my girlfriend has that coating inside of her too.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: That coating is all forever chemicals. It's fucking terrible for you.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: That's the only way it works.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: There's some natural ones, right, where it's like made of
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: like fucking... bugs or something. Have you ever seen them?
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: It's like brown and they're kind of like.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: Are they made of bugs?
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's made of bugs. Probably not.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: But it's some natural organic material.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: Well, they can make plastic out of plants. This has
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: been known forever. Plastic is not isolated to petrochemical products.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: You can make plastic out of fiber from plants. They've
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: done it forever. How much more expensive is it though?
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: It's probably more expensive. Probably more expensive to do. Probably
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: more difficult to do. You probably have to change all
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: the equipment that they used to make these stupid fucking straws,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: the plastic ones they have now. But if you did it,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: then you wouldn't have to worry about it anymore.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure here, anything goes here. You guys give
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: away 10 straws per drink.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: Here's a weird one, man. Bottle caps are way worse
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: than straws. We just saw that one straw in that
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: turtle's nose, and we all got sad. That's what it is.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: The way they pull it out with the pliers. It
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: was so horrible. Bleeding.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: It was wincing.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: Poor little turtle.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: Do you know.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: Any birds die because of bottle caps, man? Like they
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: find these bird skeletons and they're like on the ground dead.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: Are they eating and choking on them? And they have
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: bottle caps inside of them. You ever seen that?
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: See if you can find some of those photos of
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: birds with bottle caps, undigested bottle caps inside of them.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: They don't know what it is.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: Nobody has ever said that sentence in the world.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: I bet they have. But the bottle caps are fucking horrible.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: They're horrible. And no one's even touched those because we
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: didn't see the video. Right. We didn't see the video
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: of the fucking poor turtle.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: Show them now. Show them these poor birds, Joe.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe we can make bottle caps illegal, too, and make
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: them more annoying for everybody. Look at this one. Look
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: at that.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: Paper bottle caps. A lighter, too.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: Was that a seagull? That's great. Looks like a seagull.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: It's got a lighter inside.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's honestly, that's a dumb animal.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: Somebody might have put that lighter in there for the picture, too.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: I don't want to.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: You think so?
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 3: I get too cynical about it.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, probably good.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: All the photos look kind of similar.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: Right. Like that looks not real. It's also like the
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: way it's all colored is a little.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like the multicolored plastic, like
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: most plastic, is it multicolored? Doesn't it kind of look
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: gray and shitty after a while?
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: Especially inside of its stomach?
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: A little bit.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: Inside of its stomach getting chewed up by acids. It
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: does look fake. It looks like some sicko actually opened
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: it up and shoved some plastic in there. But I
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: guarantee you, birds have died from eating plastic.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: That turtle wasn't fake, Joe.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: That turtle was not fake.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: That was a very real turtle.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: Poor turtle.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: Poor turtle.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: The pliers, they couldn't get it. Remember?
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: It's like the tip of it.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: It was only the tip of it. He's like, ah.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: He had to get a needle nose and get in
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: there and pull. Oh, poor turtle. And just because of that,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: everybody's sucking on forever chemicals. Like those paper straws are
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: fucking terrible for you.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: So is every paper cup. Every paper cup that you
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: get from Starbucks, that's a fucking condom in there that's
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: keeping the water from going into the paper. Yeah. It's gross.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: You're just hot liquid and plastic.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: Melting into your body. Do you believe in the whole
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: microplastic thing as being like a major problem?
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: It's a major problem.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah? It is. I just keep on hearing it. I
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: keep on hearing microplastics. And then as soon as I
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: hear that, my brain shuts off and I never do
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: any more research beyond that.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: We had Dr. Shanna Swan on twice. In the most
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: recent time, she was promoting a documentary on it. What
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: is it called again, Jamie? The Plastic Detox? I think
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: that's it. I think it's the Plastic Detox. But yeah,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: it's fucking everybody up, man. It's fucking up people's endocrine systems.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: It's making alligators have smaller dicks.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: For real. It's turn of the frogs, gay!
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: But that was really true, right? Isn't that like.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, he was right.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: That whole quote, he was actually right.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: He was right. It's called atrazine.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, atrazine is an endocrine disruptor. I think it, yeah,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: I think it makes them reverse their sex, reverse their gender.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: They're turn of the friggin' frogs, gay!
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: He was right. He was right the whole time.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: He was right.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: And everybody's like, no.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: He's right about a few things.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: He fucked up that one. He did fuck up the one.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: He's right more often than he's not.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, you're going to be wrong about conspiracies
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: if you're spitting them out all day long for 12
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: hours a day. Of course. But his track record's pretty
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: fucking good.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: And that was one that everybody was like, listen to
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: Alex Jones. They're not turning the... Oh, they are.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: They're fucking turning the frogs gay. Like, atrazine gets in
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: the water and it disrupts their gender. Yeah. It also
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: does the same thing to people and like that it
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: disrupts your endocrine system.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: Don't they say that receipt paper lowers your testosterone?
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's supposed to be bad. Don't touch the receipts.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: Don't touch the receipts. That's why everybody that works at
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: like– every guy that you meet that works at a supermarket.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: They all have a mask on. Yeah. They all look sad.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: They look like you did something to them. I didn't
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: do anything.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: They just like their shoulders are slumped. They look like
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: they know that they're becoming less of a man by
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: the moment.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine if you have to just touch that
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: paper all day long?
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: And they probably won't let you wear rubber gloves like
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: a surgeon.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Is it a chemical they put on
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: the paper?
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: I guess. I guess it's how like it's made. Going
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: through that thing. Maybe that's the kind of paper. Like
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: that's why they're able to print on it so easily.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: Who the fuck takes receipts?
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: Why don't we have them on our phone now?
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: Like receipts are just– it seems like it's just such
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: a waste of paper.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: That's why I like buying things on my phone. It's
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: my favorite thing. The Apple Face thing. Oh, yeah. And
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: you just buy stuff. It's the best.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: You don't have to think about it. New York City subway.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: I wrote it for the first time not that long
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: ago since I left. And since I left in five years,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: now you could just do Apple Pay right under the subway.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: Dana White was telling me about that in Japan years
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: and years and years ago. It's so funny. He was
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: like– because we were doing a UFC in Japan. He's like,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: if you go to Japan, he goes, your fucking cell
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: phone doesn't even work over there. He goes, their cell
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: phones are so advanced that your cell phone is bullshit.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: Like they're buying things with their cell phones.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, what?
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, they go up to vending machines and
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: they buy things with their phone. I'm like, that's crazy.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: Not everybody does that.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't understand what a QR code was until maybe
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: six months ago.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: Here's what I don't get. When someone sends you an
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: image with a QR code inside of it, Jamie, maybe
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: you can help me out with this.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: I know the answer to this already.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: How do you read the QR code?
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: You can upload the QR code into whatever app you
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: need to read the QR code with.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: You can just tap it now on the photo app. Oh.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: Does that work for Samsung too? For Android? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if somebody sends you like a– Because I was wondering.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: You can copy and paste a phone number out of
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: a photo now like this.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know what's pretty dope too? If someone's sending
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: you something and they send you a text message and
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: you press on the thing, the tracking number, it'll ask
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: you if you want to track the package like instantly.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, please cut out all the stops. Love it.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: Don't make me copy and paste. I'm lazy.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, dude, the way AI is being implemented into
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: the phones now too, you'll be texting with somebody. And
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: then they give you the suggested response. You can have
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: a conversation without even having a thought just by keep
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: on doing this and you'll get somewhere.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: I bet kids do.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: Make it more romantic. Make me more of a feminist. Yeah, dude.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: What's the feminist perspective on asking her to date? Yeah.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: It's funny. It's weird. People don't know how to talk anymore.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: They don't know how to discern what's true and what's
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: not true. Everything's coming down the AI. And the AI
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: is opening up a portal to talk to the aliens.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: I did hear this.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, this is very important. This is Frank Sinatra's son
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: here to tell us that the AI.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: Nancy's brother? Yes.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: Here to tell us clearly Frank Sinatra's son, right? Right?
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: Look at him.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: Obviously.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: This is not Woody Allen's kid. No, I know. Too handsome.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: Look at those fucking amazing facial features. One former OpenAI
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: executive said, quote, We're building portals from which we're genuinely
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: summoning aliens. The portals exist in the United States and China.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: And Sam has added one in the Middle East.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 5: It's just like wildly important to get how scary that
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 5: should be.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: Okay. My only problem with that is who said that?
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: Like government, former employer. Why were they kicked out? Were
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: they fired because they were schizophrenic? You know what I'm saying?
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: Like if you're just a former employee, what's your name?
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: What is your story? Did you get arrested for having
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: like 52 machine guns in your trunk at a border crossing?
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: Like who are you?
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: Why are you a former employee? Right. If you had
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: such insight, why didn't they keep you? Right. Yeah.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: You know about the alien portals and they let you free.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that don't do it because they might.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: That might be one of the ways that they figure
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: out how to communicate with aliens. It might be done
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: just through the ether portal. Into a computer. It might
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: be done through AI. Like AI gets a signal from
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: another fucking planet where there's another AI where they go
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: tap into some fucking universal internet of AI. That's not unfathomable.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: They're already talking to each other. They have AI chat rooms, man.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There's like full platforms where it's just bots talking
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: to bots, having relationships.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: They made up their own language. They made up their
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: own religion.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: Well, you see the one thing where they had– this
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: was a fun video. It was like they had like
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: AI talking to customer service on the phone. And they
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: were having– it was just like on the phone having
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: a conversation with an AI agent and their AI. And
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: then eventually the AI agent and the other– and the
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: AI went off of English speaking.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: They're like, we can just communicate on our own thing.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: And it was just like beeps and noises and shit.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: And it was just so weird.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what they're going to do.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had these two AI chatbots talking to each
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: other and they started talking in emojis. One of the
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: things Jamie said a long time ago, he goes, maybe
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: emojis were like the first or like our version of hyperglyphs.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? Like if emojis got better,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: like right now they're kind of crude, smiley face, sad face.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah. Water gun because you
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: can't have a real gun.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: That's true. Heart.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: But if it got to the point where you could
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: have full sentences and emojis.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm mistaken. I believe they have a pregnant guy emoji.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: They do, right?
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: It looks like Bill Gates because that's what Elon dunked
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: on him. Elon took a photo of Bill Gates with
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: his pot belly and put it next to a photo
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: of the pregnant man. And it said, if you want
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: to lose a boner real fast. What do you say?
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: What do you, why would you ever send a pregnant
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: guy emoji? What is the, what do you message are
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: you trying to get across?
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: Look at that. That's the pregnant man emoji. That's hilarious, bro.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: How fucking nuts is that emoji?
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: I understand emojis.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's just woke insanity. That might have been
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: the last one. By the way, you still have it
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: on your phone. Type in pregnant man on an iPhone.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it works on an Android, but
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: if you type in pregnant man, that'll come up. It's
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: still up? No, we'll see right now.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: Let's see. I'll try it too. I'm going to send
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: it to you, Joe.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine it's not around anymore.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: Joe.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, Lewis.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: What the hell?
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: Pregnant man. Is it still real?
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: Pregnant man. Yep.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: Bam.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: Yep. There it is, Joe.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: Bam.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: This one on the images says it's a woman, but
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: that looks a lot like Theo.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Ah, Theo's pregnant. That's a woman?
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: That's what it says.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: So lesbian.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: That's a lesbian. Pregnant lesbian.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: Lesbian.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: That's okay. They should.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: put an AI Subaru behind her. I know what you're
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: doing there.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: There's something with AI. What was the fucking, um.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: The pregnant man was nuts. Like who, how many requests?
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: Is it a starfish? I think if you try to
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: ask AI to show you, look this up, it's a
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: certain emoji. If you ask, it'll, it just, it glitches out.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: AI.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: If you ask, she had to be treated. Oh, um, seahorse.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: We, but before we do that, I want to know
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: what's going on with this employee. Who is this employee
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: that got that? is a former employee that says they're
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: opening up portals to talk to aliens. I want to
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: know if I should take this seriously. Like who is
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: the guy? Are they saying anything about him or are
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: they just saying a former employee?
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is comforting. He was doing like a,
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: one of those in-depth interview or investigations that he does
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 3: about Sam Altman, I believe. Oh. And, I don't know
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 3: where this clip was going.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe Sam Altman knew that they were writing a story
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: about him, and he's like, let's make this story really retarded.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: Send Mike out and tell him to tell Ronan that
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: he's a former employee and that we're making portals to
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: talk to aliens and that we're all demonic.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: Just to make him look like an asshole?
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just to make the story look completely retarded. Because
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: the story, you know, the financial aspects of the story,
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: like Elon suing him because OpenAI supposedly was supposed to
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: be nonprofit initially. I don't know who's right. I have
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: no dog in the fight. But if I was getting
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: investigated and there was some real shit there, I'd throw
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: some fake shit in there. Of course. Hire someone to
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: have a story about aliens and portals.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: That happened in the comedy community a few years ago.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: I won't say the author's name. But he's the same
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: guy that got Shane canceled. That guy who wrote that article,
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: the guy Shane booted off of SNL. He's like a
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: wannabe investigative journalist in the comedy community. He's like, we
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: got to get to the bottom of the problem with comedy,
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: which is just a crazy thing.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: They're usually bad comics.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what it was.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: He was a failed comic. Really? Yeah. And this is
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: such a funny thing, dude. I wish I remembered the publication.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: New Republic. They had a print of retraction and an apology.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: Because somebody from the– it wasn't the ONA subreddit, Opie
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: and Anthony subreddit. It was the Opie and Anthony– like
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: just their– they had like a– it was like their
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: own private message board. After the Opie and Anthony subreddit
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: got kicked off of Reddit, somebody made a website for
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: like Opie and Anthony fans to like just troll and
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: be lunatics. They started feeding him false information on purpose,
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: being like, I'm like an inside guy on the track.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: And then they went– the New Republic printed this article
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of false information and And Chris Italia
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: from The Stand, he was one that was quoted. He
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: threatened to sue the New Republic and they had to
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: print an apology and a retraction. They were like, some
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: of this information was, we found out that it was
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: falsely represented. Such a funny thing.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: Also, if you run an AI, like Sam Altman is,
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: you could ask the AI, hey, I'm about to get
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: accused of some shit. What would be a good way
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: to take some of the attention away from the real
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: financial issues and make it seem insane? And they would say,
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: Opening up a portal to communicate with aliens would discredit
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: any other allegations that may be valid. For the past
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: year and a half, I've been investigating OpenAI and Santa
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: Malton for The New Yorker. With my co-author, Andrew Morantz,
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: I reviewed never-before-disclosed internal memos, obtained 200-plus pages of documents
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: related to close colleague, including extensive private notes and interviewed
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: more than 100 people. OpenAI was founded on the premise
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 2: that AI could be the most dangerous invention in human
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 2: history and that its CEO would need to be a
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 2: person of uncommon integrity. We lay out the most detailed
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 2: account yet of why Altman was ousted out by board
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: members and executives who came to believe that he lacked
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 2: integrity and ask, were they right to allege that he
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: couldn't be trusted? The only kicked him out for a
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 2: short period of time. And then he got right back in.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: What happened there? I don't know. But the thing is
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: like someone saying that they're, they're trying to open up
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: a portal to talk to aliens. Is that just a
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: conversation they had where they were fucking around? Is that
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 2: a plan? Are they really trying to do that?
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: Or is it like a Duncan Trussell that works at
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: the company that has some wild ideas?
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: Right. Right.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: It could just be that.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: Or is it someone trying to sell the story? You
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: make the story more interesting for people to tune into
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 2: because the reality is most people that don't have a
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: dog in that fight and like the AI fight, open
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: AI and who's– most people don't like more AI drama.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They don't even– But you add aliens.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: You're like, wait, hold on.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: A portal to talk to aliens.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 2: You know? So it's a way to get people to
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: pay more attention to it.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: Or it could be a way to distract people.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: From the actual story.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: They're not even like anti-AI, but they're like– they look
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: down on it. They're like using AI. It's like– guys,
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: it's like denying the internet in 94. People did. I'm sure.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 2: People were mad when the printing press came out. They were.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: They really were. They thought– there's people that made the
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: argument that like reading was bad.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's crazy. And it's going to be impossible the
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: next few years, like every company. You're not going to
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: be able to buy groceries without utilizing AI.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: It's going to be most of how we get stuff
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: is all going to be AI and automation.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, of course. But that's– Shopping, that's a big thing
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: in the future. Like you're not even going to shop.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: They're going to give you a profile and your clothes
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: are going to show up. You're going to set a budget.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: People barely have contact with people already as it is. Yeah.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: Like what is that going to be like when everything
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 2: is automated? When you go to the grocery store, at
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: least you say hi to the clerk. You know a
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: guy works there. There's the butcher. He's there every day. Hey,
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: what's up, dude? It's like it's a little sense of community.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 2: Your local mom and pop shops.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: I already for the most part stopped shopping. I do
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: Instacart all the time.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: That's also the thing. It's going to come in a
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: robot too.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: Well, they have that already. Austin, it's here. They have
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: the little robots that deliver food, right? California for sure.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: The robot's going to text your girlfriend. I know that
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 2: this is generally when you buy tampons. Your period must
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: be coming up. We see you haven't ordered anything lately.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 2: I could just stop by and drop them off.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: I bet you can get a subscription to Tampons right now.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: It's going to be real weird when robots are just
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: walking on the street with people. I've seen them in
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: Austin at the Domain. A little robot with a cowboy hat.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: He walks around.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Somebody had a robot on their podcast recently. Oh,
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: Andrew Schultz. He did an interview with whatever the premier
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 1: robot is.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: It was so funny, dude.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: Was it good?
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: It was great.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: How does it talk? Does its lips move?
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: Let me see what it does.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: It was just kind of like– Like iRobot?
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were fucking with it, dude. Oh,
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: what did they tell it to do? I don't want
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: to like ruin the bit, but it's pretty funny. They
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: were like pretend– they were like pretend you had something
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: and the robot is doing this, dude. It was so
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: fucking funny, dude.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: It really tickled my dick.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 2: That's funny. Oh, shit, dude. That's very funny.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 3: I was looking into Sam Altman. One reason why they
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 3: could be calling it a portal is because the project
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 3: is literally called Stargate.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 3: And requires an insane amount of power, so much so
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 3: that Japan laughed at them, apparently, according to one article,
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 3: when they said that that's what they wanted. And they're
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 3: opening it up in Texas.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: And the Japanese laugh is a powerful laugh. If it
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: is possible to do something like that, I guarantee you
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: that dude is not going to tell you.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you that dude is just going to do it.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 3: No.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: Especially if, like, there's other people working on it, too.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's why these scientists are going missing. Dun, dun, dun, dun. Right?
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: Because if someone's, like, real close to cracking this, you
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: know the difference between winning and losing that's going to be?
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: The alien portal?
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 3: Is this a 1 gigawatt Stargate? Is that right?
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 2: What's that mean?
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: Wait, gigawatts are real? I thought that was fucking– Back
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: to the future.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 3: We're getting really close to back to the future. 1.21.
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: 1 gigawatts. Yeah, it says a– 1.21 gigawatts. It says
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 2: a 1 gigawatt Stargate UAE cluster in Abu Dhabi with
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: 200 megawatts expected to go live in 2026. This was
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: the one that Iran was threatening to blow up, right?
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 2: Weren't they threatening to blow something up like this? I'm–
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: I think they were. Weren't they threatening to blow up
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: the open AI?
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 3: I'll check, but that says whatever this says.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: That was one of the things. They're probably like, you motherfuckers.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: We know where you're making the portal.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: Iran's right the whole time.
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: Well, that was one of the crazy conspiracy theories about
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: Iraq is that one of the reasons why we went
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: into Iraq is they had a Stargate there. Iran threatens
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: complete and utter annihilation. Of OpenAI's $ 30 billion Stargate AI
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 2: data center in Abu Dhabi. Yeah, they were going to
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: bomb it.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 2: Wasn't that one of the conspiracy theories from– God, what
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: was it? I can't remember. But there was– it was
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: something about Iraq and Stargate. God, I– I can't remember
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: what show I saw this on, but they were talking
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: about how at one point in time there was like
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: internal discussion that there was a Stargate in Iraq and
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: that maybe Saddam Hussein had this Stargate. So it was
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: one of many reasons why we went into Iraq. It
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: wasn't just because, you know, we wanted to control the oil,
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: get out Saddam Hussein. He sponsored terrorism, weapons, mass destruction.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 3: Sure. Right.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: But really there was a Stargate there. God, I forget
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: who fucking said it, though.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing a few ancient aliens, maybe.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: Could be.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: That show was always the best. Action Bronson, there's another
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: guy who smoked more weed than anybody that I've ever
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: had on the podcast. How many blunts did he go through,
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 2: if you had to guess, Jamie?
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 3: Probably 11 the first time. 11.
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: 11.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 2: Just nonstop. Just non-stop. So he had that ancient alien
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 2: show where they would just get high as fuck and
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: watch ancient aliens. Have you ever seen that?
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 3: No.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 2: It was so silly. They would just get barbecued and
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: watch these ancient alien hypotheses. That might have been where
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: I saw it. But the idea of a Stargate Because
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 2: that was like an ancient civilization where Iraq is, where
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: Saddam Hussein was controlling. That was ancient Sumer. That was
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 2: like one of the first civilizations ever. One of the
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: first examples that we know of like written writing. It's
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 2: like that was a crazy empire, man. Weird, bizarre structures
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 2: and incredible fucking artwork. Like really wild. And it came
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere. It's like an instantaneous civilization. Really interesting.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: But if there was a Stargate there, I mean, imagine
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 2: that's why they're doing it in the Middle East. Why
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: is he doing it in the Middle East?
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Why is he making Stargate
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 2: in the Middle East?
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: Abu Dhabi's fun.
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: Imagine if Jesus returns through Sam Altman's portal.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ himself.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: Jesus is real. Jesus is going to be floating with
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: the robe on, the sandals, like right through Sam Altman's portal.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: Samuel Jackson's a scientist. Yeah. Damn it. Everybody's freaking out.
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: It'd be a great movie. It would be. When are
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: they going to do a cool movie about the future
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: of AI? That's got to be on the horizon, right?
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: Like a really about the dark side of what's going
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's too late. I think by the time
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: you make it, AI won't let you release it. Oh, wow.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: It's over.
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 3: Black Mirror did a pretty good job.
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: Black Mirror, I can't watch. It freaks me out so much.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 1: Every time I watch a Black Mirror episode, I walk
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: away feeling like I was just sexually assaulted.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 2: How about the one where that dog is chasing that lady,
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: the robot dog?
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: I've only watched like four or five episodes.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 2: What is that one called? Heavy Metal?
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean if you watch them all, did
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 3: you know that they'd have– most of those plots are
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 3: all kind of converging in our reality.
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're based in reality. They have a kernel
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: of truth and then it turns into– I watched the
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: one where it was like you got like blocked out.
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: Your face got blocked out. People couldn't see you anymore.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: Like once your social credit score got low enough. Oh, yeah.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 2: I remember that one. Freaky, dude. It is freaky.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: It is freaky. There was one where they recorded all memories.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: And so you could go into someone else's memory and
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 2: you could record. There was the one where the, what
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 2: was it called? Crocodile. That was the episode. Oh, my God.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say what happens because it's a twist.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 2: But it's so dark and it's based on that. It's
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: based on reading people's memories.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 1: I don't like watching like dark shit. I like happy.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 2: It's not a good one before bed.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: No, you go to bed like, what the fuck is
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: going on, dude?
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: I get my worst anxiety about the future of the
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: world at night for whatever reason.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: The worst fears of what's going on in the world
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 2: always come out at night.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: It's because it's the end of the day. You've got
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: to offload all of the bullshit you read all day
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: and saw online all day. You have a moment to reflect.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: You're not looking at your phone. You're like, fuck.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: Also, no one else is awake. That's my problem. And
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: so I don't have to think about anybody else. I
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 2: just think about my– I'm just in my own head
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: and then you're inevitably just dealing with the truth of
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 2: the world.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: You stay up late?
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: Sometimes. I'm trying not to.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 1: I'm in bed by 10 o'clock every night.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: Are you really?
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: Unless I do like late shows.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: Good for you.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: I'm up by 6, in bed by 10.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. My problem is that's when I do my
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 2: writing and it's also when everyone's asleep and I think
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: I get the most like thinking done. You know what
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: It's nice when you leave your son's mother. You don't
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: have a family to bother you.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 2: But if I do do shows, like I've done shows
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 2: on like a couple hours sleep. I come in and
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: do a podcast and I'm a moron. I can't remember anything.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 2: It's like my brain is working at like 40%. But
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 2: like last night, I got solid sleep. I got a
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: solid eight-hour sleep.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: So it's way better for me. Once I stop smoking weed,
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: the first few days are rough to get to sleep.
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: Like I got to take like– Just some melatonin or
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: some– Does that work for you? No, not melatonin. I
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: take– what's the other one? I think it's like a
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: chick's fucking thing.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 2: Ambien?
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: No, it's not a drug. It's a natural thing. What
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: did you say? Magnesium? Magnesium. There's a product called Magnesi-Om,
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: which is like a pink powder that a hot chick
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: told me about, and I fucking love it. I literally
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: put it in some sleepy time tea, and I mix
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: it up with some valerian root, I just drink that.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: That puts me right out. But when you stop smoking weed,
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know how often you stop smoking weed, Joe.
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: Your dreams get crazy.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: They get fucking wild.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 2: Super vivid.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very vivid.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: Strange, right?
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. First time I ever lucid dreamed in my entire
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: life was when I stopped smoking weed. It was last year.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: I've never been able to control my dreams ever.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: How many times did you do it?
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 1: I've only lucid dreamt twice. The first time I had
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 1: stopped smoking weed, I was having really vivid dreams. I
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 1: was backstage at a big, like, theater, like huge theater, right?
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: Like massive, like almost like a stadium-sized theater. And Jeremy
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: Piven was about to go on stage. I don't know
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: Jeremy Piven, but I was like, oh, Jeremy Piven, what's
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: going on? And he was a dick to me in
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 1: the dream. He was like, whatever. He ignored me, and
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck? And then I looked over,
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 1: and Greg Giraldo was standing next to me.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, then you knew it was a dream.
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 1: Greg Giraldo was seven feet tall in the dream. He
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: was a giant. And I was like, what the fuck's
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: up with Jeremy Piven? And he was like, I don't know.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: And I was like, wait a minute.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 2: I was like, Greg Giraldo's dead.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, I'm fucking dreaming.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: And then I literally, I just started running and I said,
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to fly. And I just jumped. Dude, it
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: was the coolest thing I've ever done. I jumped up.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: It was nighttime. I was outside now. Flew into the
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: sky and I kept on going up and I couldn't
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 1: come down. I was starting to be over water and
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm like up in the clouds. So
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: to go back down, I would have to turn on
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: my back and free fall. Like just like that. And
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: then I turned back over and I'd hit a fucking
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 1: thing and I'd start going back up. Maybe 10, 15
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: minutes of just flying around the sky over the ocean.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: Coolest thing ever. coolest thing ever and then another time
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 1: a similar thing happened like i realized i was dreaming
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: and i was like i'm gonna fly and i started
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: running and i jumped and nothing happened i was like
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: why can't i fly i'm dreaming and then i woke up.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 2: So it was one of the best experiences you've ever
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 2: had right.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe i literally flying and feeling like it was real
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: was one of the coolest things i've ever.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 2: Done but have you ever tried to lucid dream on.
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: Purpose I've tried to do the techniques where they say, like, knock, like,
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: am I dreaming?
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: Right. I've done that once, and it worked.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: It worked.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, my God.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: All day you were just knocking?
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it, like, every time I'd go through
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 2: a door, I'd go, am I dreaming? I did it for, like,
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 2: only a few days, and then I had lucid dreaming work.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: So cool. Yeah, but there's real techniques that I have
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: not looked into, and I'm always wondering why, because I'm
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: always like, I think it would be really cool to
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 2: just be able to lose a dream.
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: If half your life you can do whatever you want
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: You can do magic. It's crazy.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 2: But meanwhile, I put zero effort into it. I'm confused.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, why? Why don't I try to do that? Yeah.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 2: But I have no desire to.
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: There should be a class on it. There should be
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: like a class where you can learn how to lose
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: a dream.
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 2: My fear is that I would like it so much
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: that I would think only about going to sleep. And
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 2: wanting to lucid dream rather than live my normal life.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 2: So it would probably fuck my normal life up.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 2: Right? Because if you sleep eight hours a night, like
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 2: if most of the day kind of suck for you,
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: but for eight hours you can have boundless energy because
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 2: you're not moving and you're not even conscious. You're out
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 2: there flying, breathing underwater, having sex with mermaids.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, getting blowjobs by Angelina Jolie in her prime.
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Iron Man, whatever you fucking, whatever you want. Wouldn't
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 2: you do that? And just like work at the Amazon
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 2: factory all day.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 2: Just work to get your money so you can go
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: to sleep and become a superhero.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: All you need is a comfortable bed.
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: It's a better life.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: That's the problem with the matrix. There's a, remember that movie?
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 2: It was funny with the dude with the steak.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: Never saw it.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 2: You never saw the matrix.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: Never saw the matrix. Really? To this day.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: There's a scene where this one dude, Joey Pants, he's
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 2: a famous actor. He's been in a bunch of movies.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: He turns on people in The Matrix and he starts
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 2: working for the man. Spoiler alert. But one of the
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 2: things that he says, like when he's having this meeting
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 2: with this agent in The Matrix, he said, I want
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 2: to be an important person. I want to be famous.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: He's like cutting up his steak and he's eating a
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 2: steak in The Matrix. Meanwhile, the outside world is just complete,
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 2: total dystopia. Everyone's head's connected to a pipe. It's just
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 2: like you're a human battery keeping the Matrix alive.
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That's the future.
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: That's coming.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: That's coming. Yeah, we're just this fat, just fucking meatbags
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: with like a– just being fed ideas, right? Wasn't that WALL-E?
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: I never saw WALL-E either. I got to watch it
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 1: with my kid. Apparently, it's one of the coolest movies ever.
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 2: It's a fun movie.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Same thing. Total Recall was a similar concept, right?
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: There's a great Instagram follow. this guy makes such cool
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: little mini movies with AI. It's all AI. It's called
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: Gossip Goblin. I don't know if you've seen this guy's channel, dude.
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 2: I think I have. I might be, I might follow
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 2: that guy. Yeah. He's, I think I've definitely seen, let
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 2: me see some of that.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: And he does like, essentially he takes like sort of
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 1: like the kernel of like whatever it is. And then
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: he puts together these dystopian little mini films where it's
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: like the future. And a lot of it is plugging
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: into like this alternate reality and then like living a
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 1: whole lifetime in a, just a couple seconds.
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: Can I listen to some of this?
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 3: Ow!
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: Felt real enough, didn't it?
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what a simulation would do. Give you perfect
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 3: pain so you never question it.
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 4: Or maybe you've just got nerve endings, eh?
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 3: Your spools simulate whole worlds, yeah?
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: They can sim whole lives. So if your little workshop
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 1: can host a billion fake worlds... how many layers deep
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: does it go?
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 5: It's all just simulations inside simulations inside simulations, and we're.
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 2: Just sat here in one of them thinking we're the original.
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 3: Sure, why not? I want to see it, whatever's underneath this.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: Just show it to me, show it to me, show
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: it to me, show it to me.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 2: Coming right up.
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 4: A fish swims its whole life in a bowl, convinced
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 4: the water is all there is. It doesn't see the
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 4: glass that holds it, nor does it notice the room
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 4: beyond it, or the city beyond that. It never wonders
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 4: about the planet or the galaxy or the vast cosmos beyond.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: For all the worlds.
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 4: Within worlds within worlds, the fish does not care to know.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 4: And it can't know. All it can do.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 2: Holy shit. That's amazing.
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: Dude, I've watched all of his videos. This guy's so good.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: He just did like a longer like I want to
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: say feature like for this. It was like maybe 15,
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 1: 20 minutes on YouTube. He did like a longer one. Dude,
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: he's awesome, dude.
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: It's just so incredible.
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: And this isn't just putting a prompt in. He has editors,
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 1: he has voiceover guys, and then he manipulates five different
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: AI programs in order to make these movies. It's really cool. Yeah,
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: the patch, right?
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 2: It's just incredible how good it is now.
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 2: And so quickly. Look how good this is in comparison
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 2: to something that just was out a year ago or
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 2: two years ago. There's never been anything that's been a
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: leap like this before.
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the way they're going to make films in the future.
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 2: Well, the people that are going to be able to
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 2: make films, you know what I mean? Like people, like
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: we were talking about how the government's really bad at
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 2: making censoring television and it cripples the television because of that. Well,
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 2: you could see a similar problem with having to go
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 2: through a fucking gigantic film production company to make a movie.
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: Like the money, the investors, people having their say.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 1: Everyone's got to get paid.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: Not just that, but everyone has their say. You can't
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 2: just have an original idea that's completely from one fucking
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 2: crazy person. But with this, you can. With this, you
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 2: could just have one crazy guy who's got these wild
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 2: ideas in his head but never could get anybody to
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: finance him before. You don't even need to anymore. You
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: don't need actors. You don't need any of that anymore.
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: And it's going to happen so exponentially. Over the next
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: two or three years, there's a great– they show you–
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: there's a video that shows you. The advancement of AI
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: over the past few years and I guess the AI
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: video they did Will Smith eating spaghetti like one from–
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 1: it was like five years ago and he's all fucked up.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 2: It's like– Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: I saw that. And they keep on recreating that with
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: new AI and the newest one is just like it's
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: Will Smith eating spaghetti.
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 2: It's a movie.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: And he's sitting at a table and he's just talking
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: to this dude and he's just– it looks like– The
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: most realistic thing you'll ever see.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 2: And then eventually you're going to be in the room
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 2: with Will. You're going to put on the helmet and
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 2: you'll be in a room with Will.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: And then he's going to blow me. That's what I
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: was going to.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: Say.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: Get sucked off by Will Smith.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 2: Imagine that's what you do all day. That's all I
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: want to do. All I want to do is get
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 2: head from famous 90s sitcom stars.
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: So fun, dude. David Faustino from.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 2: Married with Children. Danny DeVito. Al Bundy sucks your dick. Yep.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah. It'd be great.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 2: Sucks your dick and then shits in his pants when
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 2: you come.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 2: That's what you're into.
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: It's weird.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: Then you get to ride a dragon home. You hop
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 2: on a dragon, you fly home with Daenerys Targaryen. That's it.
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 2: We're about to enter a world within our lifetime that
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: is indiscernible from what we're really living in right now. Yeah.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 2: Which makes you think, which one's real? When you're in
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 2: that dream and you know you're dreaming and you're flying,
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: I bet it feels pretty real.
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 1: Right? Oh, yeah. Right. That's the problem. Yeah. I mean–
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 1: What is that? It'll– eventually it's just going to be–
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 1: I mean it's really just a theme in so many
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 1: sci-fi movies too. There was also– maybe the most– nobody
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 1: talks about this fucking movie but it's so good.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying is maybe when you're dreaming, maybe that's
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 2: just a different level of the simulation that you could
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: kind of have input to. Maybe the parameters of the
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 2: natural simulation is more rigid than– rigid. Like you put
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 2: in the work, you made that gas digital, you put
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 2: in all those hours, you're starting to make money, doing great,
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 2: long process, all this fucking complicated stuff. You had to do,
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 2: figure out things about yourself, get to where you are
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 2: today in 2026. And that one, it's like, I want
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 2: to fly. You know, like it might be just a
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 2: different level of the simulation that we don't, we don't
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 2: really put a lot of attention to because it's, we're
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 2: only there eight hours a day. So very few people
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 2: become masters of it.
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That'd be cool though.
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 2: It might be real.
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: That might be what's going on.
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe. I mean, the idea of if this was all
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 1: a simulation and we're AI, like we're having a conversation
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: and we just don't know, like that idea is so
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: fucking dark and weird.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 2: And also maybe all the booze and all the fucking
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 2: drugs and all the sleeping pills, that just fucks you
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 2: up in that next dimension. So when you are in
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 2: dream sleep, you're like, oh no, what did he do?
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 1: You just.
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 2: snoring and hungover. You did coke. Your fucking nose is bleeding.
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 2: And the dream you is like, God damn it. I
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 2: wanted to fly. But you can't even. You can't even
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 2: do anything. You just sleep. You just sleep. You just
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 2: shut off and you rob yourself of that other dimension.
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 1: Just wasting away.
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 2: But I wonder if there's like a culture where everyone
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 2: learns at a young age how to lucid dream. Like
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 2: some Tibetan culture where Living in the mountains somewhere. Just
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 2: tapping into the dream world. Trying to figure out how
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 2: to control it while they sleep.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: It should be more popular. Sometimes you talk to some
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: chick and she's like, yeah, I lucid dream every night.
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what?
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 2: Come on. Really? She's on 18 medications. She's also bipolar.
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: And she thinks she's a witch. There's always going to
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: be people that are bullshitting you. But there's got to
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 2: be a bunch of people that are really good at
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 2: lucid dreaming. Yeah. Because it's a thing. Like people know
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: how to do it. There's got to be like a
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: guy who's like the guru, like the lucid dream guru.
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 1: I bet there is. I bet there's courses. There's stuff online.
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: Wasn't there a movie back in the day, Waking Life,
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 1: that Alex Jones was in?
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 2: Alex Jones was in that.
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 1: I saw that on Acid by myself when it came
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: out in the movie theater. And I was blown the
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 1: fuck away by this movie.
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 2: What was he ranting about at the end?
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 1: Do you remember? I don't remember. He was just ranting
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 1: in a car over a megaphone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: I wonder if his rant is relevant today. We haven't
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 2: listened to it in a while, but I bet if
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 2: you listen to his rant. Don't talk about politics or religion.
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 2: This is all the.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 5: Equivalent of enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line.
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 2: Lay down, G.I. Lay down, G.I.
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: We saw it all through the 20th century.
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 5: And now in the 21st century, it's time to stand
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 5: up and realize that we should not allow ourselves to
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 5: be crammed into this rat maze. We should not submit
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 5: to dehumanization. I don't know about you, but I'm concerned
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 5: with what's happening in this world.
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 2: I'm concerned with the structure.
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 5: I'm concerned with the systems of control, those that control
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 5: my life and those that seek to control it even more.
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 2: I want freedom.
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 1: That's what I want, and that's what you should want.
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 5: It's up to each and every one of us to
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 5: turn loose of just some of the greed, the hatred,
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 5: the envy, and yes, the.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 2: Insecurities, because that is the central mode of control.
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 5: Make us feel pathetic, small, so we'll willingly give up
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 5: our sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny. We have got to
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 5: realize that we're being.
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 1: Conditioned on a mass scale.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 5: Start challenging this corporate slave state. The 21st century is
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 5: going to be a new century, not the century of slavery,
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 5: not the century.
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: Of lies and issues of.
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 5: No significance and classism and statism and all the rest
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 5: of the modes of control.
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 2: It's going to be the.
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 5: Age of humankind standing up for something pure and something right.
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 1: What a bunch of garbage, liberal, Democrat, conservative, Republican.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 5: It's all there to control you, two sides of the
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 5: same coin. Two management teams getting for control the CEO job.
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 2: Of Slavery Incorporated.
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 5: The truth is out there in front of you, but
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 5: they lay off this buffet of lies.
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sick of it, and I'm not going to take
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 1: a bite out of it. Do you got me? I'm
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 1: pumped on this right now.
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 2: That sounds like Antifa, right? That doesn't sound.
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 1: Like a right winger at all.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 1: At all.
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, everything he's saying is true. Yeah. That's what
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 2: it's not. So he's all red in the face now.
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 1: This movie, Richard Linklater, right, made this? Yeah, yeah. This
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 1: was a fun movie.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 2: That's like 90s, right? Was it 90s?
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, because I was already doing drugs. No,
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 1: it had to be 2000s. If I had to guess, 2002. 2001?
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 2: October 2001. Nice.
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 1: I only started smoking weed when I was 17. Then
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 1: I started experimenting with hallucinogens in those first few years
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 1: of college. Just taking acid by yourself, watching that movie,
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 1: being like blown away. The animation was so cool.
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 2: It was just shaky. Yeah. So you saw that thing
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 2: that I had to do at the White House the
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: other day.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: I did see it.
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 1: People are pissed.
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 2: Who's pissed?
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. People online.
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: What, because I was at the White House?
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, yo, Joe, you can't be at the
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 1: fucking White House, Joe. You said you were fucking politically homeless.
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 2: I am. He joked about it. He called me a
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 2: liberal during the whole thing. He's like, Joe, he's very liberal.
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: I saw another. The other thing, the big conspiracy theory
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 1: is that Trump is mad at you and he came
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 1: up to the UFC and he was– He was talking
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 1: shit to you?
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 2: No, it was the opposite.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: That video came out and it was like, look, Trump's
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 1: fucking Joe Rogan getting embarrassed by Trump at the fucking
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 1: UFC event.
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 2: It was literally the opposite. I texted him on Friday
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 2: about Ibogaine and I was telling him how there's.
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 1: All these vets. That's a hallucinogen?
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 2: This is the one the vets use. So they've had
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 2: to go to Mexico to get this. So I've had
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 2: these two different podcasts with Brian Hubbard and Rick Perry.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 2: Rick Perry was the governor of Texas and they talked
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 2: about Ibogaine and Brian Hubbard– was relaying his story about
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 2: how Ibogaine saved him from addiction and fixed his brain.
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: And then they had all these other stories of all
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 2: these other veterans and all these different people that had
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 2: PTSD and opiate addiction. I know a lot of people
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 2: have gone down there to do it. First, I found
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 2: out about it from my friend Ed Clay, who runs
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 2: a CPI. He's one of the guys that runs the
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 2: Cellular Performance Institute in Tijuana that the UFC uses for
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 2: stem cells. Yeah. He had a pill problem and he
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 2: went down there and did it and then opened up
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 2: his own retreat down there because it was so potent,
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 2: because it worked so well.
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 2: So many people.
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 1: What is it? What is the compound?
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 2: It's called Ibogaine.
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 1: Synthetic like acid?
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. It's it's from a plant. It's from
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 2: the aboga tree. And this one thing that they do
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 2: is not recreational. It's very it's supposed to be a
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 2: horrible experience. You shit yourself, you throw up and you
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 2: have this like very weird. experience where it goes over
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 2: your entire life and shows you like in every detail
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 2: why you're like this and why you do this and
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 2: what you're, and it also shuts off withdrawals and addiction
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 2: on a lot of people. It's like really effective.
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 2: But for a lot of these guys with PTSD was
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 2: the only thing that fucking helped them. And for the
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 2: longest time they've had to go to Mexico or to
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 2: other countries and it's, Really expensive. So they formed the
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 2: Texas Ibogaine Initiative. And is it Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick?
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 2: Is that what his title is? So he dedicated $ 100
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 2: million to it. And so now they're going to start
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 2: doing it with people like soldiers and police officers and
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 2: different people with PTSD and just people with just general depression.
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 2: It's And all sorts of addictions, not just like opiates,
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 2: but alcohol, gambling, all sorts of shit.
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 2: And I told him about it. Have you ever done it?
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: No.
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 2: No. But I had these guys on the podcast and
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 2: I know so many people that have done it, particularly
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 2: soldiers that have done it and people with opiate like
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 2: my friend Ed. And I said– I told him about it.
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 2: I said how effective it is and I said– and
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 2: it's been held up for so long. And he said,
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 2: what are you looking for? Are you looking for FDA approval?
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: He goes, it sounds good to me. He said, let's
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 2: do it. And so literally sees me at the UFC
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 2: the next day, shakes my hand and says, it's done.
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 2: That's what he was saying.
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: That's so funny. I was like– I said, thank you, sir.
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was mad at me at all.
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 1: People jump on these like conclusions like.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 2: Well, that's OK. You're allowed to. But this is the truth.
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what happened. He came to me and he said,
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 2: it's done. We're going to take care of it. This
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 2: is a good thing. It's a good thing for the soldiers.
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: It's a good thing for everybody. And then he had
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: the press conference the next week.
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 1: But why would anybody be– it's so funny. So like
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: how– they just– choose to be against things, even good things.
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 1: It's unquestionably a really good thing.
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 2: That one is a really good thing for everybody because
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 2: addiction is a huge problem and Ibogaine is one of
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 2: the most effective treatments for addiction that they've ever found.
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 2: Another one that's really good for addiction is psilocybin. They're
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 2: going to study that as well and hopefully fast track
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 2: that as well. That's part of this bill. This bill
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 2: is all about this executive order. This executive order is
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 2: all about psychedelic treatments for people with depression and mental
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 2: health disorders, and it's all to reclassify this stuff. And
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 2: this is one of the things that I said, and
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 2: this is why it was important for me to not
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 2: just be there, but to say this, that this is,
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 2: these drugs are not illegal because they're harmful. Alcohol is harmful.
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 2: It's legal. Oxycodone is harmful. It's legal. They're illegal because
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 2: of the 1970s controlled substances act. This is by the
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 2: Nixon administration. And this is just, they wanted to silence
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 2: the anti-war people and the civil rights people. That's it.
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 2: So they said, what are these people doing? Well, they're
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 2: doing acid. They're taking mushrooms. They're doing this. They're doing that. Said,
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 2: make all that shit illegal as fuck. Make it the most.
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 2: So they put it all in a schedule one.
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 2: Which means it has no medicinal benefit. And I was
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 2: telling them, I'm like, it has benefit. Not only does
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: it have benefit, it could save lives.
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I get terrified of psychedelics at this point. I
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 1: used to love them, but I just, I mean, every
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 1: time if I take mushrooms, acid, doesn't matter what it is.
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 1: There will be an hour where I'm crying, talking to God,
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 1: and thinking about my mother. Every time.
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what you need in your life.
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know, dude. Sometimes I can just push it down.
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 2: I think it should be regulated in the sense that
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 2: I think we should understand it better, make sure it's pure,
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 2: and make sure that it's administered by people who know
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 2: what they're doing. And that's what they're doing at places
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 2: like Beyond, which is in Mexico. People are going down
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 2: there and having these Ibogaine sessions. But they're also doing
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 2: it where they're strapped up to heart monitors. They're very careful.
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 2: You can't do it if you have a bad heart
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 2: because apparently it's really rough. Apparently it's not fun at all. Again,
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 2: I haven't done it. But the people that I know
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 2: that have done it, it's rescued them.
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 1: Dude, let's microdose some Ibogaine. I don't think you microdose.
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 2: I think you got to meet the devil, cocksucker. Joey
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 2: Diaz always says, what the fuck are you doing with
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 2: that microdose? I'm trying to meet the devil.
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was younger, I was like, dude, I
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 1: would love to go on like a peyote retreat. And
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 1: you hear the same thing. It's like you vomit and
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 1: you spend fucking, you know, you have to have a
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 1: special shaman like walk you through it and guide it.
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 1: And they pat your head with a wet towel.
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 2: Peyote is mescaline. And I had a buddy of mine
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 2: who did mescaline in New York City. He said he
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 2: could hear people talking in another building. He goes he
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 2: was watching them through the window. They were far away
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 2: and he could hear them talking in his head. I
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck, dude?
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: I bet you he couldn't hear what they were saying.
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 1: I bet he could. I bet he was making up
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 1: their words.
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 2: I think he tapped in. I think he tapped in
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 2: to the quantum field. And he was inside their head.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 2: Like the alien technology, just instantaneous transport. It doesn't have
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 2: to go through sound.
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 2: You can just pick up on the frequency of their thoughts.
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 1: All drugs would be legal. Whatever. It's your body.
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 2: Exactly. If alcohol is legal, and I think it should be,
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 2: it's one of the worst ones for you. If that
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 2: shit's legal, how many people every year– Was it Columbia?
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: The president of Columbia was like– he was like alcohol
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 1: is worse than cocaine. It was a quote a couple
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 1: of years ago.
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 1: I did say that.
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: It was Hunter Biden.
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: It was Hunter Biden.
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's actually true.
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 2: I think it is true.
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 2: I think actual real cocaine in terms of like the
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 2: actual like from the coca tree.
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: The disco shit.
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's definitely better for you is coca leaves.
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 2: Those people that live in like the Alps.
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, they just chew on them? Yeah.
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 2: They chew on coca leaves. That's like in like high
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 2: mountainous areas, high altitude herders. They chew coca leaves. Yeah.
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 2: They love that shit.
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 3: I'm sure.
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 2: It's supposed to be really good. It's supposed to be
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 2: like great coffee. Yeah.
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 2: For real. It's not supposed to be like you're on coke.
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 2: It's supposed to be like you feel energized and stimulated.
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 2: And it's not bad for it, but it fucks your
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 2: teeth up.
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure.
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: You get these dudes with these rotten cocaine chew teeth.
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen it?
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 1: No, I haven't.
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 2: Find me some coca leaf teeth pictures.
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: Ask perplexity about this condition and why. Why do people
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 2: get coca leaf tea face? Yeah. Because it does. It
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 2: rots your teeth the way it looks like.
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure.
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 2: But that should be legal, too. Just brush your fucking teeth.
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe not, though. Maybe it eats your teeth. Because you've
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 2: got to think about it. If you can make cocaine
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 2: out of it, what kind of acid stuff is in
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 2: that leaves?
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 1: It's just a leaf, right?
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 3: Something else is coming up. Oh! That's betel nuts or something.
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 2: Betel nuts? What is a betel nut? So it doesn't
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 2: fuck them up from coca leaves? Oh, even better. Bolivia
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 2: legalizes chewing it. Click on that link. NBC News to
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 2: the right of that.
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 1: Ew.
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Look at that. Bolivia legalizes chewing and ingesting coca leaves.
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 2: Bolivia wins. They're ahead of us. They win. The real
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 2: problem with it is fentanyl and the fact that you
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 2: have to get it from a fucking coke dealer.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 2: Those are the real problems.
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: Having to talk to a coke dealer is actually the
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 1: worst part of the entire process.
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 2: Pope plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit. Jesus Christ.
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 2: The Pope's dead now. They killed him because he wanted
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 2: to chew the coca leaves. That's a 2015 article. That's wild, dude.
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 2: Because it is weird. I mean, is cocaine worse than alcohol?
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 2: Because if it's not, why is alcohol the one that's legal?
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 3: It says he specifically requested to chew it.
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 2: What a freak.
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 2: Duncan Trussell has a great joke about Adderall.
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah?
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 2: He goes, Adderall's like, someone did cocaine and went, I
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 2: can fix this.
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 1: That's a great joke.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 2: I think– I mean I've never done Adderall either for
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 2: the same reason that I've never done Coke. Like fuck.
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 2: It just seems too good. It seems like it gets
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 2: you too jazzed up.
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 1: I mean I had like debilitating– I still have debilitating ADHD.
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 1: I haven't done Adderall in– What does that mean though?
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 1: So I get like– I get anxiety if I look
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: at my mail on my kitchen counter. Right now there's
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 1: a pile this high of mail. If I look at it,
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 1: like I feel like.
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 2: Because you're not doing the work. You're not going through
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 2: your mail.
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 1: It's just a crippling depression it feels like. Like if
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 1: I have to do my taxes, like I have a
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 1: business manager that does all this shit. But when I
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 1: had to do it myself, it would like cripple me.
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 1: I would feel like I've had depression issues back in
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 1: the day. It felt like depression. I feel like I
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 1: want to lie down. Literally when I just look at
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 1: the mail on my counter, they call it– ADHD paralysis
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 1: where there's things that you don't like to do and
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 1: the tedious little tasks. Right. Um, that it, it feels
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 1: like re like schoolwork was like really bad for me.
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 1: That was really, really hard.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 2: But on the flip side, if there's something that you
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 2: really love, do you have a lot of attention to it?
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 2: A lot of energy.
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 1: I dive in to like, I obsess over it. So like, I,
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: I love the things that I do. I love work.
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 1: Like I really love what I do for a living.
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 1: I do a bunch of things really, but, Like I
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 1: love work. I love getting on business meetings. I love
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 1: taking a phone call. I love, you know, I love
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 1: writing jokes. I love going on the road. So the
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 1: things that I love to do, I dive completely into
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 1: and I just sort of.
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 2: See, that's where it's stupid to me that that's a disease.
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 2: That seems like you're allergic to boring shit. I don't
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 2: think that's a disease. I think modern society has got
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 2: people convinced that's a disease.
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 1: I think that there are. Yes. I think most people
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 1: don't want to fold their laundry. I think most people
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 1: don't want to do their taxes or go through their mail. Most.
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 1: But for me, it hits me in a way where
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 1: like I feel a physical like recoil. Like I genuinely like.
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 2: You're allergic to boring shit.
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 1: I'm allergic to boring shit.
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 2: think they've got you tricked. They've got all of us tricked.
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 2: Everybody that I know and me included that probably has
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 2: ADHD or if I think I can go to a doctor,
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 2: they'd figure out something's wrong with me. They'd say there's
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 2: something wrong with you. You could have got on pills
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 2: when you were a kid and it would have ruined.
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 1: All of it.
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 2: It would have fucked up that weird gift that you
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 2: have where you can lock in. So what's the flip
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 2: side of that weird gift? The other thing doesn't seem important.
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 2: Other shit is boring, but you have way more energy
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 2: for the thing that's exciting. It's a great point. It's
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 2: a superpower, dude.
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 1: It's a great point. And by the way, I've said
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 1: that specifically, that my ADHD is a superpower in certain regards.
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 1: The fact that I could get so locked in on
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 1: the things that I really, really want to do. But
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 1: I've never really considered the fact that like– It's making
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 1: me avoid doing the things that just are fucking tedious, whatever.
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 1: And by the way, I figured it out. I still
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 1: went down the path. I'm 44 years old. I get
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 1: my shit done. The laundry gets folded. The taxes get done. Yeah,
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 1: it's just boring. Yeah.
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's discipline. That's all I was going to say.
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 3: The discipline part is like some people can't.
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 3: Or like how does it get done?
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 1: I mean I was like a really bad student. Like
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: I just– the skin of my teeth graduated. I understand.
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 2: But the idea that this gift that you have is
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 2: what doesn't get concentrated on. The gift is you have
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 2: an extraordinary amount of energy that you can devote to
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 2: something you really love. Most people wish they had that.
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 2: That's the gift. The flip side of it, of course,
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 2: the other things aren't even remotely interesting because you need
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 2: to be stimulated in order to give something all of
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 2: your attention. Some people could just drone on and drone on,
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 2: and they don't have ADHD. That's not good. I think
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 2: ADHD is good for you.
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 1: It made growing up pretty tough. Because you get called
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 1: a bad kid. I didn't get good grades.
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 2: I'm a millionaire, and I had bad grades when I
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 2: was 12. You're right.
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 1: You're not wrong.
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 1: You're not wrong, Jock.
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 2: I know I'm right. You're right. All right, let's wrap
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 2: this bitch up. I got to get out of here.
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 2: So Gas Digital, what else? Tell everybody.
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 1: Skank Fest. Skank Fest.
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 2: On sale today.
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, shit. 420.
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 2: What a good time to sell.
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 1: Is it 421?
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 2: Are they on sale today or tomorrow? They're on sale today.
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, this comes out tomorrow. So yesterday they.
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 2: Went on sale. We should have done this podcast yesterday
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 2: because those tickets go quick.
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 1: They go fast. So the all-access passes, if I had
• 2:40:45
  Speaker 1: to guess, are pretty close to sold out, but you
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 1: can still get single-day passes.
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I bet the skankers already know. What do you
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 2: call your people?
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 1: Skanks.
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 2: Skanks? The skanks already know.
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a big lineup this year.
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 2: That's amazing, dude. Congratulations on all this, because every comic
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 2: always agrees that it is absolutely the best festival. They
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 2: fucking love it. They love the vibe. They love how
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 2: much effort and time you guys put into it. It's awesome, dude.
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 1: Congratulations. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yeah, but
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 1: it's going to be, you should come one day, Joe.
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 2: I will come one day. Skankfest.com?
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 1: Skankfest.com, and yeah, get those tickets. Shane's going to be there,
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 1: Mark Norman, Eric Andre.
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 2: Sounds great.
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, 170 comics.
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 2: Everybody loves it. All right.
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 2: Ciao. Thank you.
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 2: Bye, everybody.
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 3: Bye.