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Israel Prophecy Q&A | Bill Salus · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy a Prophecy Watchers podcast. Hello,
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Speaker 1: I'm Gary Steerman of Prophecy Watchers today talking with author
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Speaker 1: lecturer Bill Salas and Bill Salace. Welcome to Prophecy Watchers,
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Speaker 1: and I can't wait to talk to you.
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Speaker 2: Garry. It's great to always do shows with you. Thank
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Speaker 2: you for having me on again.
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Speaker 1: Bill. You are considered an expert in a Bible prophecy
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Speaker 1: as it pertains to the Middle East, and of course
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Speaker 1: the Middle East is at the top of the news today.
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Speaker 1: Before we talk about that and some of the details,
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Speaker 1: I'd like for you to tell everybody about your huge
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Speaker 1: production rate when it comes to putting out books. I'm
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Speaker 1: holding one here called The Last Prophecy, but I've got
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Speaker 1: a stack of Bill Solace books over here. Tell us
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Speaker 1: about your library.
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Speaker 2: Sure, Thank you, Gary. I've written seven books. The one
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Speaker 2: you're holding out there, called The Last Prophecies, is the
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Speaker 2: third book in a five book end time series. We
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Speaker 2: call it From the Here to Eternity series because what
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Speaker 2: we do with this series is we take the reader
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Speaker 2: from what could happen now at the present time on
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Speaker 2: through the tribulation period on into the millennium and the
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Speaker 2: eternal order. We kind of talk about all the unfulfilled
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Speaker 2: prophecies from the present time going forward. Now, the first
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Speaker 2: book in the series is called the Now Prophecies. These
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Speaker 2: are prophecies the lack precondition They could happen now, at
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Speaker 2: the present time. The second book is called the Next Prophecies.
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Speaker 2: They have some minor preconditions, like, for instance, Ezekiel thirty
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Speaker 2: eight I believe would happen next. It's got a few preconditions.
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Speaker 2: Israel has to be dwelling securely without walls, barsnore gates.
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Speaker 2: I identify all those preconditions inside of the book. That
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Speaker 2: book also talks about the gap after the Rapture, which
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Speaker 2: before the Tribulation, and gets into the that are coming
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Speaker 2: soon but have a few preconditions. Then the third book,
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Speaker 2: the Last Prophecies when you held up, deals with the
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Speaker 2: prophecies that happened in the first three and a half
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Speaker 2: years of the Tribulation, the Trumpet judgments, etc. The two
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Speaker 2: witnesses in Jerusalem. The fourth book is the Final Prophecies.
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Speaker 2: These are the prophecies that happened in the Great Tribulation,
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Speaker 2: the second half of the Tribulation period. And then we
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Speaker 2: conclude the series with the Millennium Prophecies and the New Jerusalem.
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Speaker 2: It talks about what happens when Jesus returns. He mops
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Speaker 2: up the mess from the Tribulation, He takes a seventy
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Speaker 2: five day interval period to do lots of things to
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Speaker 2: restore the earth for habitation, and then we get into
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Speaker 2: the New Jerusalem comes down in the eternal order as well.
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Speaker 2: So it's a good book and we have DVDs to
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Speaker 2: go with it. We also have it all on a
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Speaker 2: thumb drive. Also for people who are concerned about the
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Speaker 2: loved ones who might get left behind. They can have
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Speaker 2: this thumb drive with all this valuable information on it.
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Speaker 1: Gary, go ahead, Bill and I just before we get
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Speaker 1: started on the big topic today, Bill, I would just
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Speaker 1: like to say that the work that you've done is
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Speaker 1: something that I really appreciate. I pick up your books
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Speaker 1: from time to time and just read portions of the books.
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Speaker 1: And today the news is in the Middle East. In fact,
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Speaker 1: October seventh I think changed the world. I think you'd
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Speaker 1: probably agree with me. At the time, we thought, you know,
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Speaker 1: this little straggling band of people coming into a party
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Speaker 1: zone in Israel after dark, and we thought, you know,
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Speaker 1: what in the world's going on here? Little did we
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Speaker 1: know what a large event this would turn out to be,
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Speaker 1: and as we speak, it's getting larger. And I wanted
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Speaker 1: you to talk about at the force that we're hearing
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Speaker 1: about in the news as we're sitting talking to each
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Speaker 1: other right now, and that word is his Bala. A
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Speaker 1: lot of people may have heard all the news that
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Speaker 1: his Bala is doing this, his Baala is planning, viz.
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Speaker 1: What exactly is his Bala? And can you find references
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Speaker 1: to what they're doing in scripture?
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Speaker 2: Well, that's a good starting point because right now the
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Speaker 2: focus really is on the northern border of Israel, with
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Speaker 2: the classes going on between Israel and Hisbela that look
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Speaker 2: like they're going to upscale into a full scale war,
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Speaker 2: and that's probably important to talk about who Habaala is
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Speaker 2: to get a grasp on the danger that they present
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Speaker 2: to Israel. Habala means the Party of God. It was
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Speaker 2: established Islamist political party and militant group established by Iran,
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Speaker 2: their secretary general. Many of our viewers are familiar with
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Speaker 2: this Hassan Israela and he's been there since nineteen ninety two,
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Speaker 2: I believe, and they are very dangerous. They're one of
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Speaker 2: Iron's most significant proxies. They had a war with Israel
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and six, whereby they lobbed four thousand
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Speaker 2: missiles into northern Israel for thirty four days, causing many
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Speaker 2: Israelis to dwelling bomb shelters in the northern part of
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Speaker 2: Israel for that entire month. And then there was a
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Speaker 2: UN resolution seventeen oh one that came out so that
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Speaker 2: Habala needs to dismantle their arsenal and say to the
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Speaker 2: north of what's called the Lithani River. And of course
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Speaker 2: they violated that. And now they have approximately one hundred
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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand missiles pointed at Israel. Some of them
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Speaker 2: are precision guided. They've got a full bank of targets
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Speaker 2: that they're aiming at Israel. Matter of factus recently a
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Speaker 2: few days prior to this show that we're talking about,
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Speaker 2: His Ball sent a drone over the Haifa area and
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Speaker 2: had nine minutes worth of footage that they showed publicly
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Speaker 2: to show Israel that hey, listen, we can get into
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Speaker 2: your sensitive areas, especially the high area. One of the
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Speaker 2: targets they were looking at was the Raphael military factory there.
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Speaker 2: One of the main concerns of Israel. So his Ball
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Speaker 2: is a real serious threat and they've been lobbing lots
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Speaker 2: of missiles I think over five thousand now into northern Israel.
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Speaker 2: They've got many of the Northern Israel towns evacuated. There's
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Speaker 2: roughly about sixty to eighty thousand Israelis. They've been evacuated
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Speaker 2: and out of their homes for almost eight to nine
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Speaker 2: months now. It's a major problem because Israel has to
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Speaker 2: get them back into their homes, but they can't go
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Speaker 2: back into their homes. As long as has Ball is
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Speaker 2: threat looms large. And now that the talks are, the
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Speaker 2: concerns are and we can rifle off some headlines here
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Speaker 2: that this is going to go into a massive war,
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Speaker 2: not just a conflict, a skirmish that's been going on,
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Speaker 2: but a massive conflict that will probably draw any Iran,
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Speaker 2: probably draw in Syria with its chemical weapons upscale, the
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Speaker 2: Huties attacks, they've got precision guided missiles. Also, they're still
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Speaker 2: very active in the Red Sea right now. There's Shad
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Speaker 2: militias in Iraq, the Hamas, of course they are a
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Speaker 2: proxy of Iran, as well as there are in the
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Speaker 2: West Bank. There are proxies of Iran as well.
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Speaker 1: I've got a quick question, what is the relationship between
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Speaker 1: the people who are running the Gaza operation and Hisbala
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Speaker 1: or are they are they do they work closely together
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Speaker 1: or are they two separate groups widely separated?
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Speaker 2: They're two separate groups. I don't know that. I'd say
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Speaker 2: they're widely separated. Hamas is a primarily a Palestinian group
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Speaker 2: that governs the Gaza area since they are in two
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Speaker 2: thousand and five. They are Sunni Muslims, but for some reason,
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Speaker 2: because of the common hatred they have with the shared
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Speaker 2: group of Hisbala and Iran, they've embraced Iran as a
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Speaker 2: sponsor for their terrorism. So they have meetings together. They
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Speaker 2: have had many meetings together with Hisbala and Iran and
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Speaker 2: Syria butcherl Asade, so they're part of Iran's proxy network.
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Speaker 2: But they are distinctly different. And of course they're taking
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Speaker 2: a shill lacking right now with respects to Israel's war
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Speaker 2: with them. But at this point in time, that war
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Speaker 2: now seems to be shifting more towards the north, and
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Speaker 2: Israel's not done with that war. They're still in Rafah
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Speaker 2: of the southern Gaza area, and they're doing a lot
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Speaker 2: of business. They're taking a lot of terrorists. I think
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Speaker 2: they think they've killed about five hundred and fifty to
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Speaker 2: six hundred and fifty Hamas terrorists in that Rafa area.
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Speaker 2: But now their attention is being shifted to the north,
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Speaker 2: and I think that'll be phase two of Iran's plan,
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Speaker 2: a massive war with Hesbala and Israel.
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Speaker 1: Now you've written of the books that we showed just
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Speaker 1: a minute ago, and the written in succession, each one
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Speaker 1: building on the one that went before. And what I'd
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Speaker 1: like to ask you about your books when you look
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Speaker 1: back to the books you've written, were you spot on
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Speaker 1: or did you miss in a degree or two or
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Speaker 1: a degree or three left or right? And how are
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Speaker 1: things working according to what you've been writing all these years.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to think I was spot on. Of course,
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Speaker 2: a lot of the information prophetically is going to happen
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Speaker 2: even after the rapture of the church. So you know,
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Speaker 2: we won't know that except for what we see from
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Speaker 2: the mezzanine seats in heaven. But a lot of the
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Speaker 2: things in the Now Propheties Book and the Next Prophety's
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Speaker 2: Book are stage setting dealing with the Arab Israeli conflict.
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Speaker 2: In saw Me three, a lot of these really defense
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Speaker 2: forces prophecies. That's another interesting thing. I was just thinking
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Speaker 2: about this, Gary, because I covered this extensively in the
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Speaker 2: Now Prophecies book. Because the Israeli defense forces that we
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Speaker 2: see burgeoning into a strong army, they exist in fulfillment
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Speaker 2: a Bible prophecy we're told in Ezekiel thirty seven to ten.
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Speaker 2: As we talked about the dry Bones vision, and that
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Speaker 2: is Ezekiel thirty seven. It pictures these the Jewish people
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Speaker 2: dispersed out of their homeland in the Holocaust type condition.
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Speaker 2: It says, at a time when they said, our bones
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Speaker 2: are dryer, hope is lost, and we ourselves are cut off.
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Speaker 2: Ezekiel's told the prophecy, and these bones stand up on
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Speaker 2: their feet and they says they'll come back into the
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Speaker 2: land of Israel and become an exceedingly great army. And
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Speaker 2: in the Now Prophecies book, I write about several prophecies
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Speaker 2: where these really defense forces are taking the task and
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Speaker 2: winning the wars of the Arab countries around them. Hamas
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Speaker 2: included and Habala also is involved in a couple of
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Speaker 2: prophecies hopefully we have time to talk about. But as
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Speaker 2: I see this and also Isaiah seventeen, the destruction of Damascus,
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Speaker 2: these really defense forces are involved in that. So I
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Speaker 2: would just like to say as important pause here for
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Speaker 2: the viewers. When you see these early defense forces and
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Speaker 2: they're more and more in the news now, especially now
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Speaker 2: that they're going to probably go full throttle against Habala, realize, hey,
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Speaker 2: they exist in fulfillment the Bible prophecy, and they is
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Speaker 2: this in fulfillment of Bible prophecy to accomplish the defeat
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Speaker 2: of their Arab enemies around them who despise them. Not
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Speaker 2: involved in Ezekiel thirty eight, that God stops that supernaturally,
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Speaker 2: and they're not involved in Armageddon because in the first
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Speaker 2: two and nephyears of Armageddon they're living in a peace
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Speaker 2: confirmed by the false Covenant by the anti Christ and
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Speaker 2: Daniel nine twenty seven, and then in the second half
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Speaker 2: of the Tribulation they're fleeing for their lives. So right
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Speaker 2: now when we see these really defense forces growing, they're
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Speaker 2: a great army, but they're going to be exceedingly great
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Speaker 2: army after they take out their Arab enemies and fulfillment
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Speaker 2: of multiple prophecies, Gary, I think that's a phenomenal thing
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Speaker 2: to watch for us interested in prophecy. These really defense
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Speaker 2: forces right now. When we look at them, we should
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Speaker 2: look at them through the lens of biblical prophecy.
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Speaker 1: Now you've got Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and come down
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Speaker 1: to Lebanon and Jordan. Israel is literally surrounded on the northeast,
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Speaker 1: the north and the northwest. And when you look at
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Speaker 1: the background that they seem either to have nuclear weapons.
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Speaker 1: We talk a lot about Iran and nuclear weapons, or
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Speaker 1: they're obtaining them from suppliers in the Far East. We
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Speaker 1: don't know, but everybody is now talking about nuclear war,
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Speaker 1: and of course scripture talks about, for example, the destruction
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Speaker 1: of Damascus, which is converted into a ruinous heap, which
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Speaker 1: sounds nuclear to me. Where are we when it comes
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Speaker 1: to those nukes and their development and their threat.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think they're going to be pulled off the
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Speaker 2: shelf here shortly, especially Israel's shelf, and I believe that
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Speaker 2: will happen in fulfillment of the Isaiah seventeen prophecy. I'll
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Speaker 2: talk about that for a minute, and then I want
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Speaker 2: to talk about the concerns that the Iran's nuclear programming
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Speaker 2: as well, because it's rapidly advancing. In fact, let me
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Speaker 2: start there. Just take a couple of headlines here. This
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Speaker 2: came out in May of May nineteenth of this year.
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Speaker 2: This is from Grossy, the IAE lead inspector for the IAEA.
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Speaker 2: And of course they've been censored out. They can no
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Speaker 2: longer get into Iran to do their job that they
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Speaker 2: were supposed to do with the JCPOA in twenty fifteen.
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Speaker 2: Of course, Trump backed out of that in twenty eighteen.
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Speaker 2: I meanwhile, Iran has moved full throdder with their nuclear program.
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Speaker 2: He said this back in May nineteenth. Iran has never
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Speaker 2: been closer to achieving a nuclear bomb. Grossi told the
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Speaker 2: press after his visit to Iran. It is estimated that
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Speaker 2: it may be a matter of weeks and not months away.
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Speaker 2: Now that was on May nineteenth, weeks but not months away.
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Speaker 2: This article just came out on Bill Cooney's website today
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Speaker 2: Watch dot org, which I recommend to your viewers for
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Speaker 2: daily news. We also have a daily news site with
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Speaker 2: prophetic implication, yes to the biblical lens, and that's called
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Speaker 2: Prophecyheadlines dot Com Prophecyheadlines dot com. But it says here
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Speaker 2: Iran said to dramatically increase uranium enrichment. This is from
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Speaker 2: JNS news source today. This is an expansion underway at
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Speaker 2: Iran's four to doh enrichment plant could allow the regime
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Speaker 2: to accumulate several bombs with the nuclear fuel every month.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, now we're talking about several bombs per month.
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Speaker 2: GROSSI said, they're not months away, they're weeks away. Some
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Speaker 2: of us believe Ron already has explosive ready nuclear weapons
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Speaker 2: and it's just amount of time until they want to
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Speaker 2: put them on their hypersonic missile warheads, which they have.
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Speaker 2: They have a hypersonic missile. It travels five times a
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Speaker 2: speed of sound that can carry a nuclear warhead and
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Speaker 2: can get the issue four hundred seconds, which is six
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Speaker 2: point six six minutes. So this is a very livid
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Speaker 2: threat and very concerning as far as the nuclear scenario.
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Speaker 2: With Israel, their worst kept secret is their nuclear program.
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Speaker 2: France helped them establish it after becoming a nation. Some
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Speaker 2: of US estimate they have two hundred nuclear weapons. That
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Speaker 2: could be on the high side, but remember one nuclear
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Speaker 2: weapon can take out a city on its own, and
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Speaker 2: we find out and plus they've got strategic and tactical
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Speaker 2: capabilities with their nuclear weapons. So when we look at
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Speaker 2: the Damascus scenario, Syria is a Damascus is the capital
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Speaker 2: of Syria, and Syria is a valied proxy, actually an
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Speaker 2: agent country of Iran, got chemical weapons, and they're going
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Speaker 2: to be involved, in my estimation, in a proxy war
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Speaker 2: with Hasbala and the other proxies against Israel, and it's
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Speaker 2: just going to find itself taking a hit. We're told
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Speaker 2: in Isaiah seventeen four through six, it Israel takes a
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Speaker 2: hit in this conflict. To explain that in just a moment,
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Speaker 2: because they find themselves engaged in a prison rules war
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Speaker 2: with thousands of missiles coming from the north, from the northeast,
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Speaker 2: out of Syria, from the north, from Lebanon, probably some
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Speaker 2: more out of the gods that depending on what's left
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Speaker 2: to the homos at that time, plus missiles coming from Iran.
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Speaker 2: We know Iran sent two hundred and twenty missiles at
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Speaker 2: Israel back in April, so's I can interrupt.
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Speaker 1: Fight, if I can interrupt for a minute. You mentioned
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Speaker 1: the three hundred plus missiles that were sent by Iran,
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Speaker 1: and everybody I talked to, Bill says that was a
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Speaker 1: miracle of God for Israel too have knocked those down
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Speaker 1: the way the way it happened, sequentially in front of
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Speaker 1: the whole world. Everybody saw that on TV, either live
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Speaker 1: or slight delayed television, and everybody said this, this was,
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Speaker 1: no doubt a miracle from God. How do you react
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Speaker 1: to that.
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Speaker 2: Well, I would tend to agree with that. Of course,
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Speaker 2: they'll the help came from the Coalition of the United States,
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Speaker 2: the UK study Baby was involved on some level. Of course,
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Speaker 2: Israel's missile defense systems I would have to look at
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Speaker 2: that was more provident. I mean, I would think, basically,
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Speaker 2: God is protecting Israel at this point. God is going
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Speaker 2: to protect them on several prophecies in the future, and
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Speaker 2: I would say that ninety nine percent of those are intercepted.
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Speaker 2: You know, those missiles were aimed at targets that would
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Speaker 2: have done severe damage to key locations inside of Israel,
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Speaker 2: and there's an amazing failure on behalf of Iran. But
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Speaker 2: at the same token, I think at this point Iran
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Speaker 2: was ready at that time. They had to be ready
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Speaker 2: at that time to bring forward. If they would have
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Speaker 2: been successful, they would have had to start bringing in
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Speaker 2: as Bala's missiles and serious chemical weapons and things like that.
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Speaker 2: But because they were they failed so dramatically. I think
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Speaker 2: things sort of stalled, But I don't think they're going
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Speaker 2: to stall much more. And I think when we talk
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Speaker 2: about Isaiah seventeen, as Israel finds itself in a prison
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Speaker 2: rules war takes casualties, they're prepared for this. They've done drills,
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Speaker 2: prepared for this, and they're going to have to pull
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Speaker 2: out a nuclear weapon because they're gonna have no choice.
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Speaker 2: One of the concerns even America's thing right now is
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Speaker 2: that in a massive war with Hasbela, Israel's defense missile
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Speaker 2: defense systems will get depleted and will need to be
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Speaker 2: replenished and replenished in a short order because Isbela has
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Speaker 2: so many missiles that can come at Israel, as does Syria,
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Speaker 2: as does Iran. So it's gonna happen. In my estimation,
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Speaker 2: it says in Isaiah seventeen one, it's a burden of
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Speaker 2: the Lord against Damascus. Behold, Damascus will cease from being
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Speaker 2: a city. It will be a ruinous heap, it will
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Speaker 2: be reduced to rubble. And Isaiah seventeen nine tells us
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Speaker 2: that that desolation happens because of the children of Israel,
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Speaker 2: these really defense forces. And the reason we think it's
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Speaker 2: potentially nuclear area is Isaiah seventeen fourteen that concludes Isaiah's
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Speaker 2: prophecy says that one night you see him speaking of
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Speaker 2: Damascus in the masculine pronoun. In the morning he is
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Speaker 2: no more. This is a portion of those who plunder
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Speaker 2: us and those who rob us, which points out that
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Speaker 2: Israel is doing it in self defense. Overnight though one
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Speaker 2: night we're going to see them ask us. In the morning,
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Speaker 2: it will be gone. It would be no longer be
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Speaker 2: a continuously inhabited city of four thousand years, the capital
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Speaker 2: of Assyria. It's going to be gone. And that's going
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Speaker 2: to probably be nuclear when that happens. When Israel pulls
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Speaker 2: out a nuclear weapon, the world will take notice, believe me.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Now here's questions going around right now. People are
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Speaker 1: talking about Turkey, and there is a big divide of
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Speaker 1: opinion about the role that Turkey will play. Being to
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Speaker 1: the north of course a little bit, but really, if
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Speaker 1: you look at Turkey, it extends all the way east
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Speaker 1: to the Caspian Sea and to Israel's north. What role
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Speaker 1: is Turkey going to play in all this.
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Speaker 2: But we need to keep a keen eye out for Turkey.
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Speaker 2: Of course, they don't like Israel. They're very pro hamas
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Speaker 2: they are involved in the Ezekiel thirty eight prophecy. There's
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Speaker 2: two the main prophecies that I'm watching for one I
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Speaker 2: believe leads to the other. One would be PSNG eighty three,
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Speaker 2: where you would have an Arab group of countries. I
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Speaker 2: read about this in the Now Prophecies book. They want
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Speaker 2: to come together to in a confederacy to destroy the
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Speaker 2: nation of Israel, that the name of Israel we remember
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Speaker 2: no more. And they form an inner circle of countries
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Speaker 2: that share common borders with Israel that have in Israel's
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Speaker 2: notorious enemies from time immemorial, including Hasbala to the north
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Speaker 2: with Lebanon and Syria. Iraq of course, you've got the
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Speaker 2: Iranian proxies are in these countries, the Gaza, the Palestinians
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Speaker 2: of the West Bank. You've got Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt.
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Speaker 2: Now Jordan and Egypt have temporary peace treaties with Israel,
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Speaker 2: but those treaties will be voided out according to prophecies
20:50
Speaker 2: that will show these really defense forces are winning wars
20:54
Speaker 2: that would be in Jeremiah fortenn verse two. But Jordan
20:57
Speaker 2: and Isaiah nineteen verses sixteen to eighteen with Egypt, so
21:01
Speaker 2: those are temporary. But that's not including Turkey. That's an
21:05
Speaker 2: inner circle of countries. But the outer ring of countries
21:08
Speaker 2: includes Turkey, and that's Ezekiel thirty eight prophecy. They don't
21:11
Speaker 2: share common border with Israel, they're not involved in it.
21:15
Speaker 2: In seventy three, they're not listed. Ezekiel's very clear about
21:20
Speaker 2: who is involved in Ezekiel thirty eight, and Turkey's right
21:23
Speaker 2: at the top of the list with under the banner.
21:26
Speaker 2: Turkey's under the banner Michik and two ball. Of course
21:29
Speaker 2: you got Iran as this is there as Persian and
21:31
Speaker 2: Ezekiel thirty eight, verse five. You also have Ecopa Lebya,
21:34
Speaker 2: some of the North African countries, some of the breakaway
21:37
Speaker 2: Soviet Union countries, probably some of the Stands, Kazakhstans, et cetera.
21:42
Speaker 2: That's another different prophecy in itself, and that's a massive
21:45
Speaker 2: prophecy that stage setting. I put that together in the
21:49
Speaker 2: next Prophecies book.
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Speaker 1: Now another question, you comment, and I've heard your comment
21:55
Speaker 1: on this that the idea if is at max right
22:02
Speaker 1: now that they're fighting on several small fronts. But you
22:09
Speaker 1: have mentioned that you think that Hisbala is going to
22:12
Speaker 1: try to spread the ID if israel defense force is
22:16
Speaker 1: so thin that they will not be able to defend themselves.
22:21
Speaker 1: Where do we stand there?
22:24
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I actually wrote an article. Let me
22:26
Speaker 2: get my notes on this. I wrote an article in
22:28
Speaker 2: Your Prophecy about his magazine. I think he came out
22:30
Speaker 2: in February, if I'm not mistaken, talking about Iran's overall
22:35
Speaker 2: things to look ahead to in twenty twenty four. We
22:38
Speaker 2: also reflected in twenty twenty three in that article, and
22:42
Speaker 2: among the things I talked about was a multifaceted, multi
22:45
Speaker 2: phased war that Iran would orchestrate through its proxies. Phase
22:50
Speaker 2: one has been going on since October seventh of the
22:53
Speaker 2: moss and again October eighth Hasbala joined in the fight
22:57
Speaker 2: on the north. And that's of course, in all those
23:00
Speaker 2: Israeli citizens citizens were evacuated and still evacuated. But here's
23:05
Speaker 2: some of the things I pointed out that Phase one
23:08
Speaker 2: was important to accomplish, and as WELLA has accomplished that
23:11
Speaker 2: successfully and can now move on to phase two. So
23:14
Speaker 2: first of all, they want to spread the idea of
23:16
Speaker 2: thin by diverting troops and important military resources to the
23:21
Speaker 2: north of Israel away from the Gods of War campaign,
23:23
Speaker 2: so that it was now mobilizing more and more. Now
23:27
Speaker 2: Two of the North. Because of this, they wanted to
23:29
Speaker 2: deplete some of Israel's missile defense systems, namely the iron Dome.
23:33
Speaker 2: They have been doing that will need more of those,
23:36
Speaker 2: and they do a massive barrage in war iss iron
23:40
Speaker 2: Dome will certainly be depleted. Three, they wanted to create
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Speaker 2: danger and chaos and historia among the civilians in the north,
23:46
Speaker 2: causing evacuation. When these evacuations, remember that most Israelis had
23:53
Speaker 2: military experience because of their mandatory draft. So in these
23:57
Speaker 2: eighty some thousand people were evacuated from the north, it
24:01
Speaker 2: opened the area for Osbala to do a ground invasion.
24:05
Speaker 2: And to do a ground invasion without civilian with combatants
24:09
Speaker 2: coming against them, they should simply be doing a war
24:12
Speaker 2: with the troops of Israel. So that's a possibility. Now
24:15
Speaker 2: Israel is also talking about a ground invasion into southern Lebanon.
24:18
Speaker 2: Now this stuff is all relatively recent news. The other
24:22
Speaker 2: thing too, is that it poses a refugee burden on
24:26
Speaker 2: Israel and really hurts the tourism of course, and that's
24:29
Speaker 2: been going on as well. So all these things have
24:31
Speaker 2: been successful. And meanwhile, it also gives the international community
24:35
Speaker 2: more time to rally against Israel. There's so much anti
24:40
Speaker 2: Semitism now, especially the United Nations. And lastly, it gives
24:43
Speaker 2: Iran an opportunity to develop the nuclear weapons and put
24:47
Speaker 2: them on warheads and send them at Israel. And I
24:51
Speaker 2: think that was all part of Phase one. I think
24:53
Speaker 2: when Iran came out in April and sent those missiles
24:56
Speaker 2: over at Israel, they were ready for Phase two. Although
24:59
Speaker 2: I think to installed, like I said, maybe it was
25:01
Speaker 2: an act of God. But this twinty think Phase two
25:04
Speaker 2: is about to happen and Israel s keearing up for it,
25:07
Speaker 2: and it would start with this war with Hisbola. Now
25:09
Speaker 2: it's just interesting. We'll just take a moment since I'm
25:13
Speaker 2: on a roll here, Gary, So headlines here Israel proves
25:16
Speaker 2: up this is These are recent headlines that we need
25:19
Speaker 2: to be watching for. Israel approves an operational plan for
25:22
Speaker 2: Lebanon's offensive, says the army, in other words, is in
25:26
Speaker 2: other words, Israel is prepared and improved a plan to
25:29
Speaker 2: go into a massive war with Isbela. Times of Israel
25:33
Speaker 2: says on June eighteenth and an open threat has Balla
25:36
Speaker 2: publishes drone footage in sights in northern Israel. We talked
25:39
Speaker 2: about that, then drone footage over Haifa, as well as
25:44
Speaker 2: actually threatening Cyprus as well, because Cyprus has an airport
25:49
Speaker 2: there and that could help Israel with military activities. The
25:52
Speaker 2: list goes on. There's no shortage of headlines right now.
25:54
Speaker 2: They're all geared towards the war with Israel and Isuela.
25:58
Speaker 2: The Moss War is almost on the back pages anyone
26:00
Speaker 2: compared to what's going on with Hesbella.
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Speaker 1: Have a quick question, and that is concerning the West.
26:07
Speaker 1: America in particular has been very critical of what Israel
26:11
Speaker 1: is doing. Uh, I'm seeing genuine depression when when you
26:16
Speaker 1: when you watch Israeli television, for example, Uh, there's no
26:21
Speaker 1: chin up and good cheer. There's people are very very fearful.
26:27
Speaker 1: They're worried, and in particular they seem to be worried
26:30
Speaker 1: because the West is drawn withdrawing its traditional support.
26:35
Speaker 2: Uh.
26:36
Speaker 1: Where's that going well?
26:39
Speaker 2: In the current Biden administration, is continuing to go, in
26:43
Speaker 2: my estimation, in the wrong direction.
26:46
Speaker 1: Uh.
26:47
Speaker 2: Starting with and yes, we were there helping intercept those missiles,
26:50
Speaker 2: and the Biden administration is quick to point that out
26:53
Speaker 2: helped issue on that massive assault with those soon and
26:56
Speaker 2: twenty missiles coming at them. But he's withheld ammunition and
27:01
Speaker 2: important military equipment from getting into the Rapha conflict that
27:06
Speaker 2: God the Israel has going on with the Hamas and
27:09
Speaker 2: the Rapha. Benjamin Nyaw has come out in front of
27:13
Speaker 2: the Biden administration about that. Now the Biden administration seems
27:19
Speaker 2: to be considering, as we speak now, withholding more because
27:24
Speaker 2: they think that will prevent Israel from going into an
27:27
Speaker 2: escalated war to the north. I mean, the rationale is ridiculous,
27:31
Speaker 2: and it goes on to say, basically Nenyaw is basically
27:34
Speaker 2: saying you're going to cause a war. So on the
27:37
Speaker 2: one hand, Biden's thinking we can prevent an escalation by
27:40
Speaker 2: withholding ammunition, et cetera, but is going to know you're
27:43
Speaker 2: going to force us to go into a massive war
27:46
Speaker 2: and ultimately pull out their best weapons, probably nuclear as well.
27:51
Speaker 2: An article just recently came out today that the US
27:53
Speaker 2: is worried that Igil's aerial defense system won't stand up
27:56
Speaker 2: against a major Hezbela attack. So see there, even America
28:00
Speaker 2: is concerned about this and Israel's defense capabilities, and maybe
28:04
Speaker 2: by trying to control the flow of weaponry into Israel
28:07
Speaker 2: from America, Biden maybe thinks he can control and dictate
28:12
Speaker 2: the terms of what's gonna happen betw in Israel and
28:14
Speaker 2: HESBAULA matter of fact, the Envoy Amos Hawkstein went over
28:19
Speaker 2: recently to Lebanon and tried to say, listen, this has
28:21
Speaker 2: gone on to too far. It's time to stop. We
28:25
Speaker 2: need to come together with you in Israel, et cetera.
28:28
Speaker 2: And right now the reports are that was just a
28:30
Speaker 2: few days ago that that has failed miserably. In other words,
28:33
Speaker 2: you know, we got no diplomatic say in this situation,
28:36
Speaker 2: and we can try to leverage missile weapons and things
28:39
Speaker 2: like that, but it's best if we just stay out
28:41
Speaker 2: of this and support Israel, because God O blesses we do.
28:45
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm concerned that we're getting on the wrong
28:47
Speaker 2: side with what these kind of moves.
28:50
Speaker 1: Bill. The times are very strange right now, very unstable
28:57
Speaker 1: on the world front, and I have seen so many
29:00
Speaker 1: books published lately on the rapture of the Church and
29:03
Speaker 1: the nearness of it. And we're undergoing another round of
29:08
Speaker 1: excitement about the rapture of the Church. And what's your
29:10
Speaker 1: response to that.
29:13
Speaker 2: Well, I am a pre tribe relation rapture believer. I
29:16
Speaker 2: am so pre trib I don't buy post toasties or
29:19
Speaker 2: green bananas. And that's humor that I've gotten from Roold
29:23
Speaker 2: Fruitenbaum and others. But the point is, Gary, I think
29:26
Speaker 2: this is a legitimate topic right now because as we
29:28
Speaker 2: see all the end time signs converging, the Middle East
29:32
Speaker 2: we've been talking about is just one of them, but
29:34
Speaker 2: there's many other things too, with the World Economic Forum,
29:37
Speaker 2: the cast of society that can happen now, with the
29:41
Speaker 2: digital technologies, the cryptocurrencies. There's also the AI et cetera.
29:47
Speaker 2: And as we look at all these things converging, we
29:50
Speaker 2: have to realize that among the top of the list
29:52
Speaker 2: that we should be looking for is are blessed hope,
29:54
Speaker 2: and that's the return of Jesus Christ to pull his
29:57
Speaker 2: bride out. He's yearning to do that. He wants to
29:59
Speaker 2: get us out of here before the tribulation begins. The
30:02
Speaker 2: wrath that gets prought out there, but this could happen,
30:04
Speaker 2: that the rapture could happen at any given time. It's imminent.
30:07
Speaker 2: I think it could be the next thing to happen,
30:10
Speaker 2: although there could be some other pre tribulation things that
30:12
Speaker 2: could happen also, So the rapture's pre tribulation.
30:16
Speaker 1: Now do you believe do you believe that some of
30:19
Speaker 1: the events that we see in the Psalms, in Ezekiel
30:24
Speaker 1: and Daniel, in the minor prophets, do you believe that
30:28
Speaker 1: the things that are that seem to be unfolding in
30:31
Speaker 1: the Middle East right now have any bearing on the
30:34
Speaker 1: near approach of the rapture?
30:36
Speaker 2: Well? Do? I don't see those things. For instance, saw
30:39
Speaker 2: Me the three the air was really conflict. I don't
30:41
Speaker 2: see Ezekiel thirty eighth, the Gaga Magog invasion as dealing
30:45
Speaker 2: with the wrath of God that we need to be
30:48
Speaker 2: spared from, which were promised to be delivered from that
30:51
Speaker 2: of course in multiple places. But I do see them
30:55
Speaker 2: as sign posts that we're getting near to the end
30:59
Speaker 2: times relation period. So I think saw Maity three. I'm
31:03
Speaker 2: going to give you your viewers my sequence of what
31:05
Speaker 2: I think could happen, and of course I'm speculating, and
31:08
Speaker 2: the rapture, of course, is the wild card. It could
31:10
Speaker 2: happen at any given time. But here's what I'm going
31:13
Speaker 2: to suggest. I think saw Many three in the air
31:17
Speaker 2: was really conflict and all the related prophecies to that,
31:20
Speaker 2: and those would be involving Hamas and his Ballah and
31:23
Speaker 2: Jordan and other prophecies I write about them in the
31:26
Speaker 2: Now Prophecies book. I think that could happen. And what
31:29
Speaker 2: could actually happen prior to that would be the destruction
31:32
Speaker 2: of Damascus in Isaiah seventeen, which could lead to the
31:36
Speaker 2: saw Maity three conflict. I think even maybe before that,
31:39
Speaker 2: let's go one step forward in front of that, could
31:43
Speaker 2: be the prophecy of be Lom in Jeremih chapter forty nine,
31:46
Speaker 2: verses thirty four through thirty nine. We've talked about this before,
31:50
Speaker 2: Gary and your studio, actually we talked about it once
31:53
Speaker 2: upon a time when your studio is in your house,
31:55
Speaker 2: before you went to the prophety watchers. But it goes
31:59
Speaker 2: way back, and that could happen. That's a disaster in
32:02
Speaker 2: Iran on the west coast where he runs nuclears. Our
32:05
Speaker 2: nuclear reactor is or underground missile silos or underground airport.
32:09
Speaker 2: They are portable rocket launchers. It's a strategic target that
32:12
Speaker 2: could be the disaster that's the prophecy that could lead
32:15
Speaker 2: to Isaiah seventeen, the destruction Damascus that could lead to
32:18
Speaker 2: saw me Ey three, and then ultimately after saw Maity three,
32:22
Speaker 2: I think Ezekiel thirty eight would happen because Israel could
32:25
Speaker 2: be dwelling securely without the threat of Arabs around them,
32:29
Speaker 2: and that's the prerequisite of Ezekiel thirty eight. Now where
32:31
Speaker 2: will I think all these are pre tribulational events, including
32:35
Speaker 2: the rapture, Now where would the rapture fall in? And
32:39
Speaker 2: my estimation, I hope it's next, but I would tell
32:41
Speaker 2: you honestly, it very well could be. I think between
32:43
Speaker 2: saw Maity three and Ezekiel thirty eight. But again I'm
32:47
Speaker 2: just guessing at that of course.
32:49
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's very interesting that Vladimir Putin is
32:53
Speaker 1: in this mix. And the word is that Vladimir Putin
32:56
Speaker 1: does not want to get involved in an atomic war.
33:00
Speaker 1: Whether that's true or not, but that's the speculation that
33:02
Speaker 1: you hear on the news, and the pundits are all saying,
33:06
Speaker 1: if they don't believe Russia is going to get involved
33:08
Speaker 1: right now.
33:09
Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, I think Russia, when you
33:12
Speaker 2: say get involved right now, clarified that I mean involved
33:14
Speaker 2: in them at least for saying what's going on right now?
33:18
Speaker 2: Know what you're talking about? Yes, okay, I think they
33:22
Speaker 2: are going to be careful to get They're going to
33:24
Speaker 2: get their feet in there as much as they can.
33:26
Speaker 2: They've got missile defense systems already set up in places
33:28
Speaker 2: like Syria and Seysbela and of course Iran. But I
33:32
Speaker 2: think they are also going to be careful because they
33:34
Speaker 2: got themselves. They don'tant to spread themselves too thin. They've
33:37
Speaker 2: already got the West barreling down on them in the
33:39
Speaker 2: Ukraine situation. They're concerned about that. That isn't going real
33:43
Speaker 2: well for them. It's been going on for a long
33:44
Speaker 2: time now. I think when you look at Russia and
33:47
Speaker 2: Ezekiel thirty eight, which is sort of the leader of
33:50
Speaker 2: that religerent coalition, as most of us would teach, what
33:55
Speaker 2: kind of Russia are we looking at there? I mean,
33:57
Speaker 2: why do they need so many big friends to form
34:00
Speaker 2: this massive coalition to go against a little tiny Israel
34:03
Speaker 2: that's about the size of New Jersey. You're talking about it.
34:06
Speaker 2: This was to happen today, and I don't think it's
34:08
Speaker 2: quite ready to happen today. About two to a half
34:11
Speaker 2: a million troops assembled by the coalition of Russia, Turkey,
34:15
Speaker 2: Iran and the rest of them coming against one hundred
34:18
Speaker 2: and seventy six thousand or so Israeli soldiers. So it's
34:21
Speaker 2: just such a David Goliath scenario. But I think Israel
34:25
Speaker 2: at the time when this happens, and Russia at the
34:27
Speaker 2: time when this happens, you had a couple different things
34:29
Speaker 2: in play. First of all, the Israel of today is
34:31
Speaker 2: not going to be the Israel at that time. They're
34:33
Speaker 2: going to be stronger, exceeding the Great Army will be
34:36
Speaker 2: shown itself. They were taken out the air thread around
34:39
Speaker 2: them as Bala Amas, et cetera. And I think Russia
34:42
Speaker 2: at that point in time says, Okay, look, Israel's now expanding.
34:46
Speaker 2: They've got plundering booty that we need. Our economies are struggling.
34:50
Speaker 2: Let's come together. In a lot of those countries, by
34:52
Speaker 2: the way, in Ezekiel third eight are Muslim, so Russia
34:55
Speaker 2: will feed off of that. They put together this coalition,
34:58
Speaker 2: and Russia I think, I think Russia not the same
35:00
Speaker 2: at that point. I think Russia needs help to come
35:03
Speaker 2: against that Israel. There's really defense forces. Of course, they've
35:06
Speaker 2: formed this formidable coalition that's even too formidable for the
35:09
Speaker 2: American troops or these really defense forces, because we don't
35:12
Speaker 2: find them in that prophecy. We find God in that
35:15
Speaker 2: prophecy supernaturally stopping that with a great earthquake, pestilents, fire, brimstone, flooding, rains,
35:23
Speaker 2: great heilstones. So I think basically my guests would Russia,
35:27
Speaker 2: it's not going to be the same by that time.
35:28
Speaker 2: They're going to need help. They're probably going to be
35:30
Speaker 2: continuing to be spread strength in with the Ukraine. So
35:33
Speaker 2: I think personally they're gonna be a little careful about
35:35
Speaker 2: diving too deep into the Middle East right now.
35:38
Speaker 1: The United Arab Emirates and other countries in the vicinity
35:43
Speaker 1: are oil wealthy, and oil has come to play a huge,
35:47
Speaker 1: huge part in politics global politics, particularly since our president
35:54
Speaker 1: made the decisions he did to cut back oil production
35:58
Speaker 1: on our part, which has destabilized the Middle East to
36:02
Speaker 1: a great degree. Well, where do you think that fits?
36:08
Speaker 2: Well, we go to the United Arab Emirates and those
36:11
Speaker 2: GCC Golf Cooperative Council states over there that hug the
36:15
Speaker 2: Persian Gulf on the opposite side of Iran, which would
36:17
Speaker 2: be Uae, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman and Guitar. Apart
36:24
Speaker 2: from Saudi Arabia, I don't know that those other countries
36:28
Speaker 2: are deeply involved in Bible prophecies. Some people, but I
36:30
Speaker 2: think even yourself career might say, well, they could be
36:33
Speaker 2: part of the the Dan Schiban, the Dan thing and
36:36
Speaker 2: Ezekiel thirty eight. I think the Dan and Saudi Arabia,
36:40
Speaker 2: but it could also maybe include some of those countries.
36:44
Speaker 2: I think they're basically at risk here because of Iran's
36:47
Speaker 2: potential nuclear program, and I don't know that they really
36:51
Speaker 2: play much in Bible prophecy, but I do think oil
36:53
Speaker 2: is going to be important, and that may be part
36:55
Speaker 2: of the Hooks and the Jaw type of thing. When
36:57
Speaker 2: Israel can it's already exploding its natural gas that it's
37:01
Speaker 2: getting out of the Mediterranean Sea, they may be able
37:04
Speaker 2: to take over some oil after so many three some
37:07
Speaker 2: territories with oil. I think Russia's that could be the
37:10
Speaker 2: Hooks and the Jaw that for resources and things that
37:13
Speaker 2: may come into play at that time. But I don't
37:16
Speaker 2: really know much about whether or not oil is going
37:18
Speaker 2: to play a major role in this world right now.
37:21
Speaker 1: You're right that Hasbala and Hamas and others are in
37:26
Speaker 1: the business of creating hysteria. They want war and they're
37:33
Speaker 1: trying everything they can to kick off a war because
37:37
Speaker 1: they think that God is on their side. And that's
37:40
Speaker 1: another story. We could talk for maybe a half hour
37:43
Speaker 1: on that one. But Hesbala and others other groups really
37:50
Speaker 1: are trying to kick up hysteria in the Middle East,
37:52
Speaker 1: and we see that right now.
37:57
Speaker 2: Well we do, and there's no greater way to create
38:00
Speaker 2: hysteria than what they've already been doing. Especially of recent
38:02
Speaker 2: that massacre on October seventh cleared out that whole southern
38:06
Speaker 2: area around in the Gazza. There's evacuees there as well.
38:09
Speaker 2: They're scared to go back. They've created hysteria to the
38:13
Speaker 2: north of Tezbeala, sixty to eighty thousand evacuated Israelis living
38:18
Speaker 2: in suitcases in many places and hotels. They're scared to
38:22
Speaker 2: go back. And meanwhile, the hysteria that's been created by
38:26
Speaker 2: these terrorist populations or proxies of Iran is gaining momentum
38:32
Speaker 2: in the international community as they're very concerned. We've got
38:35
Speaker 2: everybody wanting to get into the fray, certain places like
38:39
Speaker 2: what was it, Italy and Norway and another place that
38:42
Speaker 2: we want to recognize, the Palestinian state. The Biden administration
38:47
Speaker 2: is trying to control the terms of the war. Anti
38:50
Speaker 2: Semitism is erupting throughout the world, especially on American university campuses.
38:55
Speaker 2: So basically, this hysteria is drawing so many people into
38:59
Speaker 2: it internationally and in America, and many of them unfortunately
39:03
Speaker 2: on the wrong side of history. Because basically, when the
39:06
Speaker 2: Dost settles, Israel is going to prevail, there's really defense
39:09
Speaker 2: forces are going to defeat their enemies around them. They're
39:11
Speaker 2: going to become a greater, safer Israel and they're going
39:14
Speaker 2: to that's the Israel the Russian is going to want
39:16
Speaker 2: to come after. So I would encourage people to realize
39:20
Speaker 2: what the Bible. Bible has a lot to say about
39:22
Speaker 2: what's going on, and basically the end analysis is Israel
39:26
Speaker 2: is going to prevail. These really defense forces are going
39:28
Speaker 2: to win the wars and the wors. The Middle East
39:31
Speaker 2: is going to look entirely different here and probably in
39:32
Speaker 2: the short order.
39:34
Speaker 1: Bill Salace, author of several books. And by the way, Bill,
39:38
Speaker 1: I should point out that you're you're always welcome to
39:42
Speaker 1: contribute to our magazine, The Prophecy Watcher. We appreciate your
39:45
Speaker 1: writing and your point of view. You have put I
39:49
Speaker 1: think probably as much or more study into the Middle
39:53
Speaker 1: East as any anyone writing on subject of Bible prophecy.
39:58
Speaker 1: And as we kind of draw to a close here,
40:02
Speaker 1: our Christian friends who have been listening to this conversation,
40:07
Speaker 1: what would you tell him right now? What's the maximum
40:12
Speaker 1: the thought that you're having right now that probably plays
40:16
Speaker 1: the greater role in your thinking than any other thought
40:19
Speaker 1: you're having.
40:21
Speaker 2: It's time to get busy. It's time to get busy
40:24
Speaker 2: with our walk with the Lord, setting his word, especially
40:28
Speaker 2: the prophetic word, to use it to evangelize. We're about
40:30
Speaker 2: to be taking off this planet in the rapture, and
40:33
Speaker 2: when we're gone, we can't help our loved ones or
40:36
Speaker 2: evangelize to those in our neighborhood or set of influences
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Speaker 2: that we're concerned about our family. So we need to
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Speaker 2: get busy with this information and this information. God had
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Speaker 2: a lot to say about what's going on, and it's
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Speaker 2: not his fault if we're not getting the memo across
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Speaker 2: from the pulpits now we need these kind of shows
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Speaker 2: that we're doing here Gary and the conferences you guys
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Speaker 2: put together, your magazine, et cetera. I applaud all that
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Speaker 2: because Christian today need to realize, Hey, you're in the
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Speaker 2: end times. You're living in perfect times, You're in the
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Speaker 2: end times. God wants you to know what's going on.
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Speaker 2: One to authenticate his sovereignty to you, to build your
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Speaker 2: relationship with him, to to coulp you for the days
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Speaker 2: in which you live, and three to evangelize to the
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Speaker 2: loss because we're living on borrowed time. I would kind
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Speaker 2: of close with I think it was Jenn Markel that said,
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Speaker 2: don't fear things are not falling apart, but things are
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Speaker 2: falling in place exactly as the Bible prophecy's predicted. So
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Speaker 2: we're living in the end times. It's an exciting time
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Speaker 2: to be alive if you know what we know and
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Speaker 2: what we're sharing with you. But it's a fearful time
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Speaker 2: for those who don't know, because it's judgment is going
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Speaker 2: to be coming. Starting in the Middle East, but also
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Speaker 2: it's going to be coming in the tribulation period over
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Speaker 2: the world. So right now we live in a very
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Speaker 2: precious point of time in the Church age, not much
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Speaker 2: time left. Redeem the time, walk straight and right with
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Speaker 2: the Lord, and prepare yourselves to evangelize your loved ones,
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Speaker 2: because the time is short at this point.
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Speaker 1: Well, it might be the role of the church to
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Speaker 1: bring some kind of stability and peace to a world
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Speaker 1: otherwise gone insane, because that's the direction it seems to
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Speaker 1: be hitting. And the role of the Church has always
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Speaker 1: been to bring comfort and peace and the truth about
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Speaker 1: God and his relationship with the world politic, which by
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Speaker 1: the way, is one mass confusion. I don't think any
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Speaker 1: human being can really understand what's going on right now,
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Speaker 1: but God knows right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was on show recently and this
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Speaker 2: kind of topic came up. And what have I learned
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Speaker 2: through all the years of my research and study about
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Speaker 2: the geopolitics and things, And I said, one thing I've
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Speaker 2: learned after twenty plus years know is that the world
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Speaker 2: political leaders are essentially clueless. They have absolutely no idea
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Speaker 2: about God's plan for Israel and his plan for humanity.
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Speaker 2: And it's a sad state of affairs. But at this
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Speaker 2: point same we have the Bible, we have God's prophetic word,
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Speaker 2: we have our Savior, who in the Holy spiritual and
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Speaker 2: dwells us. So we don't need to be stuck in
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Speaker 2: the secu of the worldview. We've got the biblical narrative
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Speaker 2: and the prophetic perspective in our arsenal bill.
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Speaker 1: May the Lord bless you work and we'll talk again soon,
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Speaker 1: and we we appreciate you.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Gary, See you soon, See you soon.