Latest / Jeep Talk Show / Episode 1039 - Interview David Armorlite
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- 1:02:43from around the world
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- 1:02:55It's the Jeep talk show interview.
- 1:03:00Hi boys and girls, it's time for another
- 1:03:02Jeep talk show interview.
- 1:03:03And tonight we're going to be talking
- 1:03:04with David Dave from armor light, uh,
- 1:03:08raised in Detroit. Dave is a third
- 1:03:10generation auto
- 1:03:11industry career man. He became,
- 1:03:13uh, he began in Ford racing world in the
- 1:03:161980s and has since gravitated to the
- 1:03:19supply side of the industry serving the
- 1:03:21aftermarket accessory part of the
- 1:03:23business. Dave launched the aftermarket
- 1:03:26group for his company.
- 1:03:27Is that Aurora or Oreo Dave?
- 1:03:32Oreo with armor light and it's flagship
- 1:03:35product back in 2020.
- 1:03:37Well, what a great time
- 1:03:38to start a project project.
- 1:03:41Yeah, the same month, the world was shut
- 1:03:44down by COVID. My God,
- 1:03:46this is actually a great story because
- 1:03:48you're, you're still going. I mean,
- 1:03:50you launched it probably at the worst
- 1:03:52time in the world, other than the, uh,
- 1:03:54the stimulus packages that we got, which
- 1:03:56probably helped people buy armor light.
- 1:03:57They had nothing to do. So
- 1:03:59let's, let's work on the Jeep.
- 1:04:03Certainly concerned like the rest of the
- 1:04:05world that they couldn't have picked a
- 1:04:06worst time to launch a
- 1:04:07new business. And, and,
- 1:04:09but because of what you just cited with
- 1:04:11COVID and people wanting to get distance
- 1:04:14themselves from everybody else, it turned
- 1:04:17out that I think it really worked in our
- 1:04:18favor, right? Cause people were really
- 1:04:20building their Jeeps,
- 1:04:21take getting them ready for overlanding
- 1:04:22trips, family vacations.
- 1:04:24And I think it worked in our favor.
- 1:04:26Now I think you're aware of this.
- 1:04:28I know the listeners if they've been
- 1:04:29listening for a long
- 1:04:30time are aware of this.
- 1:04:31We last, uh,
- 1:04:32our first spoke back in
- 1:04:34December of 2022 on episodes, uh,
- 1:04:36seven 25. And, uh, I fell in
- 1:04:38love with your product. Now,
- 1:04:40it's one thing to talk about it and
- 1:04:43listen to all the great things,
- 1:04:44but that doesn't initially mean that's
- 1:04:46the truth. You know how sales are. Uh,
- 1:04:48but, uh, I went to EGS last year, uh,
- 1:04:51met you there and got to
- 1:04:53see the product firsthand.
- 1:04:55And it was every bit as good as what I
- 1:04:57thought it was. In addition to that,
- 1:04:59I've got several Jeep talk show team
- 1:05:01members that have purchased your product.
- 1:05:03And I think largely due to me talking
- 1:05:05about it on the show and they absolutely
- 1:05:08love it. I mentioned to
- 1:05:09you that a team member,
- 1:05:11Bill actually has a three
- 1:05:1292 and a new 2024 jail you,
- 1:05:16I'm sorry, just J J L rather.
- 1:05:18And he has the armor light in both of
- 1:05:21them. Uh, and I'm sorry, I'm,
- 1:05:22I'm making people,
- 1:05:24some people out there don't know what the
- 1:05:25hell we're talking about.
- 1:05:26So, uh, armor light is a, uh,
- 1:05:28a replacement for the carpet in your
- 1:05:30Jeep. And tell me, tell me,
- 1:05:31tell them you have a better way of saying
- 1:05:33it than I do. So I'm sure.
- 1:05:37I mean, you do quite well on your own
- 1:05:39right there. It, yeah, it's,
- 1:05:41it's when you look at it online, like
- 1:05:43anything that's, you know,
- 1:05:45not three dimensional, it just looks like
- 1:05:47maybe a, uh, uh, uh,
- 1:05:50floor mats on steroids, but, but it's not
- 1:05:52that it's not a floor mat.
- 1:05:54It doesn't compete with a weather tech.
- 1:05:56It doesn't go over your carpet.
- 1:05:58It replaces your carpet. And, uh, one
- 1:06:01thing I think that most of your listeners
- 1:06:03are very aware of is how much
- 1:06:05they don't like their carpets.
- 1:06:06Carpets are the last thing that the
- 1:06:09carmaker should be
- 1:06:09thinking of when they're
- 1:06:10making pickup trucks or SUVs or any
- 1:06:13vehicle intended for the off-road.
- 1:06:15So what we did was we designed a product
- 1:06:16that was really engineered for the
- 1:06:19off-road and the harsh kind of
- 1:06:21environment that that brings with it.
- 1:06:23And that's what our light is. You rip
- 1:06:24that carpet out, uh, and you,
- 1:06:26you replace it. It's a better fit than
- 1:06:29the carpet that was in before it,
- 1:06:30which by the way, the parent organization
- 1:06:32I work for makes all the carpets.
- 1:06:35Uh, and we make them because our
- 1:06:37customers around the
- 1:06:38world, but like Jeep,
- 1:06:39say we want more carpet in a Wrangler and
- 1:06:41we say, are you sure you want carpet
- 1:06:43in the Wrangler and the other stuff, but
- 1:06:45you have an alternative for it now.
- 1:06:48Now we have an alternative.
- 1:06:49When you realize you don't like that
- 1:06:51carpet in your Wrangler,
- 1:06:53then you're going to come back around and
- 1:06:54get the aftermarket product.
- 1:06:56I don't know. Are you old enough to
- 1:06:57remember shag carpet,
- 1:06:59people putting shag carpet
- 1:07:00in their, in their vehicles?
- 1:07:04I hate to admit it, but yes. And I was
- 1:07:07one of the early eighties.
- 1:07:10Yes. Yeah. And I would
- 1:07:12never admit that again,
- 1:07:13especially not around the shop because
- 1:07:14I'll probably give you a hard time about
- 1:07:16your shag carpet. So,
- 1:07:19but anyway, the, the thing
- 1:07:20that got me the most, uh,
- 1:07:22when we first talked about this and you
- 1:07:24correct me on any of this stuff that I'm
- 1:07:26remembering incorrectly, but the thing
- 1:07:27that got me the most was, uh,
- 1:07:29the one time I flooded my wife's Jeep and
- 1:07:32I didn't flood it going through water.
- 1:07:33I just flooded it through a really
- 1:07:36aggressive rain storm and the top was on,
- 1:07:38but the, the, the doors were off. The
- 1:07:40sides of the Jeep were, were open.
- 1:07:42And I got so much water in there and I
- 1:07:44found the plugs, I drained them,
- 1:07:46but that doesn't get rid of the rain that
- 1:07:48has soaked into the carpet and that
- 1:07:50doesn't get rid of the smell.
- 1:07:52And everybody that this has happened to
- 1:07:54knows that there is an awful moldy smell
- 1:07:57associated with that carpet.
- 1:07:59And really you just have to run around
- 1:08:01without the carpet and let it dry out in
- 1:08:03the sun and hope it doesn't get rained on
- 1:08:05again. Uh, and, and the, uh,
- 1:08:08the armor light software take us
- 1:08:09software, the armor
- 1:08:10lights, uh, uh, flooring,
- 1:08:12uh, carpet, uh, what do you call it? You
- 1:08:14just call it armor light.
- 1:08:15It's not really carpet.
- 1:08:19It's not carpet at all. It's really a,
- 1:08:20uh, a heavy duty. It's a TPO, uh,
- 1:08:24which is a heavy duty
- 1:08:25vinyl and it has a Marine,
- 1:08:27a Marine grade surface
- 1:08:29on top of that vinyl.
- 1:08:30So it won't scratch and Mar and it
- 1:08:32doesn't fade in the sun. Um, and,
- 1:08:35and beneath it, there's a very dense
- 1:08:38polyester insulator, uh,
- 1:08:40and polyester won't know.
- 1:08:42So no smell.
- 1:08:42So it no smell exactly. It's going to get
- 1:08:46wet. It's a Jeep. And if you're,
- 1:08:48if you're driving that
- 1:08:50Jeep, like you're supposed to,
- 1:08:51you're going to get water in it at some
- 1:08:52point. So we'll know that. And it's like,
- 1:08:54well, let's, let's choose the right
- 1:08:55materials. And if I back up quickly,
- 1:08:58before we even introduced
- 1:09:00this to the marketplace, uh,
- 1:09:02which was concurrent with
- 1:09:04the outbreak of a COVID,
- 1:09:06but before that we spent a year and a
- 1:09:07half on the trails with Jeep Jamboree.
- 1:09:10And we just spoke to the guides and to
- 1:09:12those participants at Jeep who,
- 1:09:15um, who, and we were
- 1:09:17just a sponge, right? What,
- 1:09:19what do you want this floor to do? We
- 1:09:21already know and establish,
- 1:09:22you don't like carpet.
- 1:09:23Most of you are already ripped it out and
- 1:09:25just throwing a bunch of rubber mats
- 1:09:26in there. But would you,
- 1:09:27would you like something that's nice in
- 1:09:29its appearance that kind of matches the
- 1:09:31rugged image of your vehicle? Yes. Do you
- 1:09:33want something that knocks the,
- 1:09:35they were telling us,
- 1:09:36please give us something that takes the
- 1:09:37heat out of this when we're,
- 1:09:38when we're crawling. And then the other
- 1:09:40thing was we want easy cleanup.
- 1:09:42We want to be able to open some drain
- 1:09:44plug and let it just hose it out.
- 1:09:46And then there was the whole, we were a
- 1:09:48lot of the stinky carpets, right?
- 1:09:51A lot of the components were about the
- 1:09:52stinky carpets. So we knew right away,
- 1:09:54all right, well, we, if we use polyester
- 1:09:56and even when polyester gets wet and
- 1:09:58dries, it's not going to smell, it's not
- 1:10:01going to hold mildew and, and, uh,
- 1:10:02mold carpets do it's a
- 1:10:04different material, uh,
- 1:10:06because it's a cheaper
- 1:10:07material. And, and at the OEM level,
- 1:10:09they oftentimes choose the lowest price
- 1:10:11or lowest cost solution for production,
- 1:10:16uh, because they don't want something
- 1:10:18that's over-engineered.
- 1:10:19We over-engineered the crap out of armor
- 1:10:21lake because we engineered it for that
- 1:10:23kind of a, uh, a
- 1:10:25harsh environment, right?
- 1:10:26But we also wanted to look good enough
- 1:10:28and perform well enough that if it's a
- 1:10:30mall crawler daily commuter or your
- 1:10:33weekend warrior on the trails,
- 1:10:35it's going to be able, you know,
- 1:10:36let your kids spill their ice cream and
- 1:10:37soda pops all over the place in it.
- 1:10:39It's just going to go down the drain and
- 1:10:40it's not going to stain anything or
- 1:10:41smell. Uh, so it's really
- 1:10:44for any and all purposes,
- 1:10:46but really it was designed for the trail
- 1:10:48and what you're citing in terms of that,
- 1:10:50that musty smell and wet carpets.
- 1:10:53That is probably the best selling feature
- 1:10:56of that, of our product is,
- 1:10:57is that complaint.
- 1:10:58Once you get water in the vehicle,
- 1:11:00obviously the armor light,
- 1:11:02it's not going to affect the armor light,
- 1:11:04but do you guys recommend anything by
- 1:11:05pulling that out and
- 1:11:06getting the water out
- 1:11:07of there? Or is it just the drain plug?
- 1:11:09Really all the thing you have to worry
- 1:11:11about this, pull the drain plug,
- 1:11:12let the water out and there's no more
- 1:11:14hassle to it. In other words,
- 1:11:15you're taking a bunch of steps out of the
- 1:11:17process. If you get your Jeep wet.
- 1:11:22Right. And you're talking, so if it's
- 1:11:24your factory carpet,
- 1:11:25you would have to take the carpet out to
- 1:11:27access the drains that are in there.
- 1:11:29They're rubber stops and then,
- 1:11:30and then basically pop them out and let
- 1:11:31it dry that way with armor light.
- 1:11:33We've integrated a drain
- 1:11:34with a flip top lid on top.
- 1:11:38So all you have to do is reach down
- 1:11:39between your legs and flip it open and it
- 1:11:40drains. Uh, but even
- 1:11:42when armor light gets wet,
- 1:11:44we're not concerned that don't don't take
- 1:11:46it out because it's not easy to put
- 1:11:48in. It's a good,
- 1:11:50it's going to take you a whole morning or
- 1:11:51whole afternoon to basically install a
- 1:11:53full armor light kit. Uh, once it's in,
- 1:11:56the intention is it's going to stay in
- 1:11:57and when it gets wet and we know it will,
- 1:12:00your sheet metal after
- 1:12:01you, let's say you have a wet,
- 1:12:03you got wet in a rainstorm
- 1:12:04or got wet and you, you know,
- 1:12:06went through a river
- 1:12:07too deep. Um, the, the,
- 1:12:10the sheet metal gets up to about 220 F
- 1:12:13about 45 minutes into,
- 1:12:15just a drive down the
- 1:12:16highway. It gets hot. Uh,
- 1:12:19especially on the JKU's also on the JL's
- 1:12:21pretty much every Jeep.
- 1:12:23Uh, and you got a combination of things.
- 1:12:25You've got the tunnel when you're,
- 1:12:26and you've got your transmission running
- 1:12:28through the tunnel that gets very warm.
- 1:12:30That heats you up from
- 1:12:31the sides and beneath,
- 1:12:32and then you've got your exhaust on
- 1:12:34either or both sides that really,
- 1:12:37and that's right up against the floor.
- 1:12:38That heat will dry out whatever moisture
- 1:12:42you've got going on pretty darn
- 1:12:44quickly. Um, if you've absolutely
- 1:12:47saturated it, I mean,
- 1:12:49you went into a swamp and got that nasty
- 1:12:51swamp water in there,
- 1:12:53then I would probably say, pull it out,
- 1:12:55clean it up, let it dry out,
- 1:12:57let it air dry and
- 1:12:58then put it back in. And,
- 1:13:00but that happens very rarely to any of us
- 1:13:02where it's coming in over the doors and
- 1:13:05just give everything a swamp. So that
- 1:13:07particular kind of swamp water,
- 1:13:10that stuff smells that's
- 1:13:11worse than even the, the,
- 1:13:13so we know how people
- 1:13:14will pay for convenience.
- 1:13:15And I would say that not only is this a
- 1:13:18good product to get,
- 1:13:20not have the smells, you're,
- 1:13:22you're getting convenience here because
- 1:13:23on the outside chance that you get it
- 1:13:25wet or the purposeful, uh, the, uh, thing
- 1:13:28that you do to get it wet,
- 1:13:29there's less things that you have to do
- 1:13:31and also do less things you have to
- 1:13:32worry about, uh, with this, uh, with
- 1:13:35this, uh, armor light, uh, um,
- 1:13:37flooring or what, what do you call it
- 1:13:39again? It's not carpet.
- 1:13:40I don't want to call it carpet.
- 1:13:42It's just, it's flooring. It's a flooring
- 1:13:45system. It's a replacement flooring
- 1:13:47system. It's a, it's not mats and it's
- 1:13:50certainly not carpet. Uh, it is,
- 1:13:52it's a, it's a TPO vinyl and it's
- 1:13:55basically TPO is just a very
- 1:13:56durosy of different
- 1:13:58various types of vinyls. Um,
- 1:14:00some of your floor mats that
- 1:14:01are popular, they're a TPU.
- 1:14:04So it's a thinner, it, it's, it fades
- 1:14:06quicker. It warps quicker.
- 1:14:08It stains terribly. Uh, and,
- 1:14:11and you get what you pay for.
- 1:14:12Those are mats.
- 1:14:13And one of the nicer features that we
- 1:14:15also wanted to design into armor light is
- 1:14:17that mat function that in that tread,
- 1:14:20the tread that you would have in weather
- 1:14:22mats that's integrated into the top of
- 1:14:24the, you don't have to have formats with
- 1:14:26this. It is a, yeah,
- 1:14:28it's both things. It replaces the carpet
- 1:14:31in any formats that you have.
- 1:14:35Correct. So, so don't buy formats for it.
- 1:14:37Don't take your old formats and throw
- 1:14:39them on it. First of all, it's a very,
- 1:14:41it's a very nice, we're
- 1:14:42very proud of how it looks.
- 1:14:44And a lot of the compliments we get in
- 1:14:45the product reviews is how much nicer it
- 1:14:48makes the whole interior look.
- 1:14:49But it's also
- 1:14:50functionally just a lot easier, uh,
- 1:14:53and easier on your wallet because now you
- 1:14:55don't have to go buy floor mats.
- 1:14:57You just put this in, you've got that
- 1:14:59functionality
- 1:14:59integrated into the surface.
- 1:15:01It does two things. It
- 1:15:02manages the water to the drain plug.
- 1:15:05So when you get water in there off your
- 1:15:07boots or even a spill,
- 1:15:08it's going to guide the water through
- 1:15:10those channels to the drain plug and then
- 1:15:12out the bottom of the vehicle.
- 1:15:13And the other thing it gives
- 1:15:14you is what we call stiction.
- 1:15:16When you're off camber on a trail and you
- 1:15:18want to get in and out of your
- 1:15:19vehicle, you want to plant your foot and
- 1:15:21you want it to stay where you've planted
- 1:15:22it. So the, the, the,
- 1:15:25the surface that we have on that product
- 1:15:27will hold your foot in place,
- 1:15:29um, in almost any condition. And, and,
- 1:15:33and that's kind of
- 1:15:33important to all of us.
- 1:15:34I know you, I, I myself have an,
- 1:15:37on different floor surfaces in and out of
- 1:15:39a Jeep have slipped on the wrong kind
- 1:15:41of rocky condition. And it didn't feel
- 1:15:43very good cause of the way, you know,
- 1:15:45it depends on the position you're in,
- 1:15:47but there's a door sill there and you
- 1:15:49could hit that door.
- 1:15:50Are you okay? I know
- 1:15:52what you're talking about.
- 1:15:54I forgot to mention this.
- 1:15:56So if you want to go to the
- 1:15:58website and look at this, uh,
- 1:15:59this product that we're talking about
- 1:16:00while you're listening to the interview,
- 1:16:02go to go armor, light.com.
- 1:16:04The word go G O a no space
- 1:16:08armor and then light as
- 1:16:09in light beer, L I T E.com,
- 1:16:12go armor, light.com. And
- 1:16:14I'm looking at the, uh,
- 1:16:15I probably should be
- 1:16:16looking at the JL or the JT,
- 1:16:17but I just happened to
- 1:16:18pull up the, uh, the, the one,
- 1:16:20the front flooring for
- 1:16:21the Wrangler TJ and, uh,
- 1:16:25it, and I want to make sure people
- 1:16:26understand this, this
- 1:16:27stuff, it's raised and,
- 1:16:29and lowered. So if you have fitted floor
- 1:16:32mats or you're aware of fitted
- 1:16:33formats, think of that, except it's the
- 1:16:36whole, it covers the whole floor.
- 1:16:38So it goes up several inches in the
- 1:16:40front, several inches on the side.
- 1:16:42So you would really have to try hard or
- 1:16:44go through a lot of water to get water
- 1:16:46underneath these
- 1:16:47things. And like you said,
- 1:16:48it's all channeled to go through the
- 1:16:50drain plugs, uh, which are,
- 1:16:52which are right there. Uh, and, uh, the,
- 1:16:54the other thing that, uh, that you guys
- 1:16:56might, might be interested in,
- 1:16:57and I think you, you brushed on this,
- 1:16:58we certainly talked about it before the
- 1:17:00interview is the heat reduction portion
- 1:17:03of this, uh, which is especially
- 1:17:05important, as you said, for like the 392.
- 1:17:08Uh, but, and, and, and why is it, why
- 1:17:10does it knock down the heat? Did,
- 1:17:12did you guys do that on purpose,
- 1:17:14actually design it to keep the heat away
- 1:17:16from the passengers?
- 1:17:19So, uh,
- 1:17:20when I mentioned that we spent so much
- 1:17:22time on the trail before we introduced
- 1:17:24our
- 1:17:24MRLA to get that kind of
- 1:17:26feedback from Jeepers, uh,
- 1:17:29and just wheelers in general, one of the
- 1:17:31top complaints was the heat, uh,
- 1:17:34especially in the old CJ's TJ's, right?
- 1:17:36Cause they're all running sheet metal and
- 1:17:38the Hemi swaps and the LA swaps and
- 1:17:40so on. And, and, and everyone's saying,
- 1:17:42can you do anything to
- 1:17:44knock this heat down?
- 1:17:44So we knew that that was one of our first
- 1:17:46engineering challenges.
- 1:17:47And I talked about polyester and the
- 1:17:49importance of
- 1:17:50polyester is a material that
- 1:17:54is also one of the best
- 1:17:55thermal absorbers that you can,
- 1:17:58that you can put in a vehicle. Um, you
- 1:18:01know, it's oftentimes used in bat,
- 1:18:02you know, around battery packs and EVs
- 1:18:04for the same reason,
- 1:18:05it can just knock the heat right down.
- 1:18:08So we knew that the polyester fiber, uh,
- 1:18:11insulator that we use across the entirety
- 1:18:13of the, of the undersurface of the
- 1:18:15floor. It's not just in a patch here or
- 1:18:16there, uh, it's everywhere. Uh, it,
- 1:18:19it just, it really does a phenomenal job
- 1:18:21of knocking heat down. Um,
- 1:18:23when you don't want that coming into the
- 1:18:25cap and it, it, it does, uh, I want to,
- 1:18:27I'm going off the top of my head right
- 1:18:29now, but I know that I mentioned it,
- 1:18:30the sheet metal will get
- 1:18:32easily up to 220 F and, uh,
- 1:18:35in some cases with the, with the big
- 1:18:37eights and the three 90,
- 1:18:38not even the, the Hemis, you, you,
- 1:18:40people have melted the bottom of their
- 1:18:42flip flops and we've seen pictures of it.
- 1:18:44And people have for fun have sent us
- 1:18:46pictures of what, you know,
- 1:18:47their vehicle was
- 1:18:48before and after armor light.
- 1:18:49And they showed us pictures of melted
- 1:18:51clothing items and shoes and so forth.
- 1:18:54And then you put it in, uh,
- 1:18:55put our product in and then,
- 1:18:56and then they can go barefoot and no
- 1:18:59longer worry about how hot the surface of
- 1:19:02that sheet metal is. So that,
- 1:19:03that was a really big feature that we had
- 1:19:06to design for and is
- 1:19:08now becoming selling features.
- 1:19:10Well, you have to be
- 1:19:10really proud of that too,
- 1:19:11that you just knocked it out of the park
- 1:19:13where people could literally be able to
- 1:19:16tell the difference. So, uh, shoe and no
- 1:19:18shoe difference, uh, in the,
- 1:19:19the heat that's being generated. That's
- 1:19:21great. Uh, and I think that,
- 1:19:23uh, other than the smell,
- 1:19:24that probably is the second most
- 1:19:25important thing on, on,
- 1:19:26on doing anything like this.
- 1:19:27And if you guys haven't gone to go armor
- 1:19:30light.com yet to look at some of these
- 1:19:32pictures, the thing that, uh, that I take
- 1:19:35away from this is, and, and, uh,
- 1:19:37you mentioned this
- 1:19:37before we started here,
- 1:19:39you do a lot of stuff to
- 1:19:40the outside of your Jeep, um,
- 1:19:42but you get in and
- 1:19:43there's that factory carpet.
- 1:19:45So I'm not saying just
- 1:19:46do it just for the looks,
- 1:19:48but this stuff looks off road. It looks
- 1:19:50like you're doing off road stuff.
- 1:19:52So when people open the door or get in
- 1:19:54or, you know, whatever,
- 1:19:56they're going to notice the
- 1:19:57detail on the inside as well.
- 1:20:03It's one of the comments we get back. We
- 1:20:05got back from Jared, who's the, uh,
- 1:20:07the owner and the CEO of
- 1:20:08America's most wanted was he has,
- 1:20:11he builds these, these
- 1:20:12beautiful machines, right?
- 1:20:14With these big eights in them and, and
- 1:20:17they're lifted and they're on forties and
- 1:20:19thirties and then he get inside and it's
- 1:20:21like, well, now what?
- 1:20:22Now he has a really nice, uh, he, he, he
- 1:20:24does a seat swap, but then it's like,
- 1:20:26well, okay, well what else
- 1:20:27can match the, uh, the rugged,
- 1:20:29tough appearance of the exterior. How can
- 1:20:31we bring that into the interior?
- 1:20:33And one of the things his comments about
- 1:20:35the floor was it does exactly that.
- 1:20:36It carries that rugged design, uh,
- 1:20:40from the exterior into the tear, but
- 1:20:42it's, it's appearance, but it's also
- 1:20:44functionality. I would argue it's
- 1:20:45functionality first followed by.
- 1:20:47- I love that aspect of it.
- 1:20:49I mean, I don't
- 1:20:50clean, I don't wash my Jeep
- 1:20:51or anything like that,
- 1:20:52but I do like my Jeep looking good.
- 1:20:54And I firmly believe you
- 1:20:56can have form and function
- 1:20:58if you just put a little effort into it.
- 1:21:00And I think that's what
- 1:21:01you guys have done here.
- 1:21:03You have a great product,
- 1:21:04so it's easily defendable.
- 1:21:06It's not just, it looks good.
- 1:21:08It's like, you know, I'm a real jeeper.
- 1:21:10I'm going for something
- 1:21:10here that is very functional,
- 1:21:13makes a big difference in my Jeep,
- 1:21:14but it also looks damn good.
- 1:21:16And you mentioned saving
- 1:21:17the money on floor mats.
- 1:21:19I think I bought a
- 1:21:20set of Mopar floor mats,
- 1:21:22ones that would come
- 1:21:22with a Rubicon Gladiator.
- 1:21:24And I think it was 120 bucks.
- 1:21:26And that was back in 2021.
- 1:21:29I'm sure they're more expensive now.
- 1:21:31So I thought that was a,
- 1:21:32got off a lot of money,
- 1:21:33but now I have, you
- 1:21:34know, fitted floor mats.
- 1:21:37And if I get any water or anything,
- 1:21:39I can pop the plug.
- 1:21:41So similar to this, but
- 1:21:42not nearly the coverage.
- 1:21:44So, you know, the thing that strikes me,
- 1:21:46and I don't know this
- 1:21:47for sure, you may know,
- 1:21:49I believe that America's
- 1:21:50most wanted four by four.
- 1:21:52I think they use a cat skin
- 1:21:54covers on all their seats.
- 1:21:58So cat skin is like top
- 1:22:00of the line seat covers.
- 1:22:02And I'm not saying that
- 1:22:03if you're not familiar,
- 1:22:04we've interviewed cat skin before.
- 1:22:06This isn't something you pull over.
- 1:22:08This is something that covers the seat.
- 1:22:10So they're very high end, very nice.
- 1:22:13And you guys are in the same arena
- 1:22:17as far as doing something
- 1:22:19for the inside of the Jeep
- 1:22:20to make it look good over
- 1:22:21at America's most wanted.
- 1:22:22So I just want to point that out.
- 1:22:24This isn't fly by night stuff.
- 1:22:26This is the good stuff.
- 1:22:28(laughs)
- 1:22:28- The good stuff.
- 1:22:32This, exactly that.
- 1:22:33And I'll share another little,
- 1:22:35it's not a secret anymore, Tony,
- 1:22:36but as of very recently,
- 1:22:38if you're buying a brand new
- 1:22:40Jeep at your Jeep dealership,
- 1:22:42you can build and price your Wrangler.
- 1:22:46And one of the options now is our floor.
- 1:22:48It's not branded as Armor Light.
- 1:22:51It's basically the only difference is
- 1:22:53the drain plug that snaps into it
- 1:22:55is it has the Jeep logo on it
- 1:22:56and not the Armor Light logo on it.
- 1:22:59But that is now an upfit option.
- 1:23:01When you build your Jeep
- 1:23:02and it gets built in Toledo,
- 1:23:05they do the upfit there.
- 1:23:06And then it goes back to the dealership
- 1:23:07the way you've ordered it.
- 1:23:09And it includes now
- 1:23:10the option for our floor,
- 1:23:11which is right beneath the
- 1:23:13option you just mentioned
- 1:23:14for the Mopar,
- 1:23:15- Oh, nice. - Mats, weather mats, right?
- 1:23:18- Congratulations on that.
- 1:23:20That's a big deal. - That's a big deal.
- 1:23:21Getting a Jeep is always a big deal.
- 1:23:24- It is.
- 1:23:25It's purely a Mopar accessory,
- 1:23:29but it is, they saw
- 1:23:30some couple of years ago,
- 1:23:31they were like, "Yep, this
- 1:23:32is the right thing to have
- 1:23:33"in these vehicles,
- 1:23:33"and we need to make this
- 1:23:34available to our customers
- 1:23:35"when they're ordering
- 1:23:36their brand new Jeeps."
- 1:23:37So it's now an option,
- 1:23:38whether you have an old
- 1:23:39Jeep that you want to retrofit,
- 1:23:40or if you come to us,
- 1:23:41you have a newer Jeep,
- 1:23:42you're buying brand new from the dealer,
- 1:23:44you can still put this product in it
- 1:23:46and order it as an
- 1:23:47option through the dealership,
- 1:23:50which is something- - So it's not branded
- 1:23:51as Armor Light, but if
- 1:23:52you're buying a new Jeep,
- 1:23:54how would you,
- 1:23:55I don't know if
- 1:23:56there's more than one choice,
- 1:23:57other than your
- 1:23:58flooring or the floor mats,
- 1:24:01how would they know to get your stuff
- 1:24:03when they were making that order,
- 1:24:04if you know that aspect of it?
- 1:24:06- It will say heavy
- 1:24:09duty performance flooring,
- 1:24:12and that's just,
- 1:24:14it's the Mopar Heavy
- 1:24:14Duty Performance Flooring,
- 1:24:16and when you're scrolling through
- 1:24:18all the list of up-fit options,
- 1:24:20you get to the interior,
- 1:24:21it'll have the mats that you mentioned,
- 1:24:24I think it'll have a couple
- 1:24:24of other interior options,
- 1:24:26maybe the seats, seat covers,
- 1:24:28and then it'll have the,
- 1:24:31oh, I think they even have the headliner,
- 1:24:33insulators, and it's
- 1:24:35in that section there.
- 1:24:36- It's great information,
- 1:24:37I'm glad you mentioned that,
- 1:24:38I had no idea that that's an option,
- 1:24:40and you could get this
- 1:24:41stuff straight from the factory,
- 1:24:43and you're going, well, not the factory,
- 1:24:44but you know what I mean,
- 1:24:45straight from getting a new Jeep,
- 1:24:47you don't have to mess with it,
- 1:24:48you don't have to install it,
- 1:24:49it's there, and you're not
- 1:24:51paying extra for the floor mats,
- 1:24:53that you're not gonna use.
- 1:24:54- Right, and it just gets rolled,
- 1:24:56gets rolled into your financing,
- 1:24:57so your monthly car payment has got this,
- 1:24:59along with whatever other
- 1:25:01options you've opted for,
- 1:25:03but it gets a lot easier
- 1:25:04for some people to digest
- 1:25:05when they roll it all
- 1:25:06into the car payment.
- 1:25:06- Yeah, oh no, and just
- 1:25:07the convenience of it,
- 1:25:08again, we get back to
- 1:25:09paying for the convenience.
- 1:25:10Now, I noticed
- 1:25:11something here on your site,
- 1:25:12I'm specifically
- 1:25:13looking at the Gladiator,
- 1:25:14since that's what I've got,
- 1:25:16I see Thin Skin's Pro
- 1:25:18rear door protector,
- 1:25:20I don't know that you had
- 1:25:22that the last time we talked,
- 1:25:23maybe you did, what is
- 1:25:25that, what is the protector?
- 1:25:29- Well, it's, got one behind me,
- 1:25:33hanging on the rack here,
- 1:25:35it's in line with,
- 1:25:37so basically our core product
- 1:25:39is the Armor Light replacement flooring,
- 1:25:41and we realized that we
- 1:25:42have a lot of visitors
- 1:25:43that come to our website,
- 1:25:44and there are other
- 1:25:45things that are complimentary
- 1:25:46to that product that we could offer.
- 1:25:49Well, we became aware of
- 1:25:50this Thin Skin door cover
- 1:25:52of some years ago at SEMA,
- 1:25:54we thought that's very much
- 1:25:55like what we do with our floor,
- 1:25:57it covers and protects your doors,
- 1:25:59and if you have a
- 1:26:00Rubicon or a nicer trim level
- 1:26:03with the leather doors,
- 1:26:05and you wanna keep them protected
- 1:26:07when you're on the trail,
- 1:26:07when your dogs are in the back seat,
- 1:26:09when your kids are in the back seat,
- 1:26:11these are literally skins
- 1:26:13that are molded exactly to
- 1:26:15the shape of your rear doors
- 1:26:17for JLU, JKU, JT,
- 1:26:19and they fit, it's almost a suction fit,
- 1:26:22and they just hang
- 1:26:23slightly into the glass,
- 1:26:27where your windows come up in the back,
- 1:26:30and kind of suction fit to the doors,
- 1:26:32and whatever you're doing for the day
- 1:26:34that's gonna be in a
- 1:26:35rugged kind of environment
- 1:26:36where there could be
- 1:26:37some abuse or scratches.
- 1:26:38- A dog will tear the hell out of that
- 1:26:40just by putting their feet up there,
- 1:26:42and especially if you crack the window,
- 1:26:45they're gonna be up there
- 1:26:45every two and a half seconds
- 1:26:47smelling something.
- 1:26:49- You sound like a guy that's got a dog,
- 1:26:52I've got a golden retriever,
- 1:26:53and that's exactly what happens,
- 1:26:55we've got not only do we have hair,
- 1:26:56which by the way is
- 1:26:57another huge selling feature
- 1:26:59for our product,
- 1:27:00people hate trying to get
- 1:27:01dog hair out of the carpet.
- 1:27:03- Well you don't, you never do.
- 1:27:05- You don't, you don't, you don't.
- 1:27:08So that, we weren't really thinking
- 1:27:10of doing the rear wheel
- 1:27:11houses in the Wranglers,
- 1:27:14or in the TJ's or the LJ's
- 1:27:15or any of those vehicles,
- 1:27:16but we had so many dog lovers
- 1:27:19who take their pets
- 1:27:20with them on the trail
- 1:27:21that have said, can you
- 1:27:23just get rid of all carpet?
- 1:27:25So because of those customers,
- 1:27:27we now offer the wheel
- 1:27:28houses across all of our products.
- 1:27:30So when you get a full vehicle kit,
- 1:27:32it's not just all the horizontal surface,
- 1:27:34but it's also seat backs,
- 1:27:36it's the wheelhouse covers in the rear,
- 1:27:38because those are the areas too
- 1:27:39that just collect all that dog hair,
- 1:27:41and dust, and rainwater.
- 1:27:43And so now you have,
- 1:27:45you can literally remove all
- 1:27:46the carpet from your vehicle
- 1:27:47and replace it with this material.
- 1:27:49What I do is I take the leaf blower
- 1:27:50after my dog's been in
- 1:27:51the Jeep for a while,
- 1:27:52and I will open the doors
- 1:27:54and blow through one end
- 1:27:55and let it all blow out the other end.
- 1:27:58So convenience, convenience, convenience.
- 1:28:00- And you have that good look,
- 1:28:02all the look of the flooring,
- 1:28:04and the sides and all that stuff match.
- 1:28:07And if you've gone to
- 1:28:08Moab, you know about the dusts.
- 1:28:11So think of that.
- 1:28:13I just got back from EJS, it was a blast,
- 1:28:15but I got dust from last year too.
- 1:28:17So the reason why I
- 1:28:18asked you about the doors,
- 1:28:19something struck me,
- 1:28:21are you familiar with,
- 1:28:22I asked you about the, not door poncho,
- 1:28:27the poncho covering, the dash poncho,
- 1:28:31which is kind of along the same lines
- 1:28:32where you're
- 1:28:33protecting from your electronics
- 1:28:35from the weather.
- 1:28:36You guys are protecting the carpet
- 1:28:38and the flooring from the
- 1:28:39weather and other things.
- 1:28:41And that kind of goes together.
- 1:28:42Well, I thought of a third one
- 1:28:44just while I was
- 1:28:45looking at this door thing.
- 1:28:46Are you familiar with Greg Henderson,
- 1:28:47unofficial use only?
- 1:28:50- Okay.
- 1:28:52- Yeah.
- 1:28:53- So this isn't an
- 1:28:54advertisement for Greg,
- 1:28:55but you know about the
- 1:28:57door pocket sags, right?
- 1:28:59Where that netting sags?
- 1:29:01- Yes.
- 1:29:01- So Greg, during official use only,
- 1:29:04is coming out with door
- 1:29:05pockets and they're plastic,
- 1:29:08and they're gonna have,
- 1:29:09he's licensed with Jeep.
- 1:29:11It's actually gonna have the
- 1:29:12same pattern that Jeep uses.
- 1:29:15They're just coming out.
- 1:29:16And this is, I'm just telling you about this,
- 1:29:18because you guys
- 1:29:20might want to contact Greg
- 1:29:21because now you could
- 1:29:22actually sell the door pockets
- 1:29:24for those doors as well.
- 1:29:25But anyway, that's up to you.
- 1:29:27But I'm really happy
- 1:29:28because I'm gonna be getting a set
- 1:29:29for the gladiator and I
- 1:29:30don't want saggy stuff.
- 1:29:32You know, as you get
- 1:29:32older, you don't like sags.
- 1:29:34You take it as a personal offense.
- 1:29:36(both laughing)
- 1:29:38- Very good flight.
- 1:29:41I'm with you there too.
- 1:29:41- But check that out.
- 1:29:42And listeners, check that out too.
- 1:29:44Greg's a good friend of the show
- 1:29:45and I'm really looking forward
- 1:29:47to getting those door pockets out.
- 1:29:47- Yeah.
- 1:29:48- From unofficial use only.
- 1:29:49Now, the other thing, this
- 1:29:50is neither here nor there.
- 1:29:52It's not important, but I
- 1:29:54think it's really a cool idea.
- 1:29:56You guys have drain plugs
- 1:29:58and you can buy alternate
- 1:30:00drain plugs in different colors.
- 1:30:02And if you don't know
- 1:30:03what I'm talking about,
- 1:30:03the drain plugs are in the, like the mats
- 1:30:06or in here in the,
- 1:30:07their armor light stuff.
- 1:30:09And they have multiple colors.
- 1:30:10So you can actually accent your interior
- 1:30:13like some people do with
- 1:30:15their hinges and things.
- 1:30:16So if you're watching this on YouTube,
- 1:30:19Dave is showing us
- 1:30:20purple, green and black.
- 1:30:23And I think you got red as, yeah.
- 1:30:25And I think you got red as well.
- 1:30:27- We've got red, red and blue and pink
- 1:30:30and all the colors of the rainbow.
- 1:30:32Orange is popular.
- 1:30:33Our best sellers are red, blue, orange.
- 1:30:36And then the black is
- 1:30:37usually the most popular.
- 1:30:38And that's what comes
- 1:30:39standard with your order.
- 1:30:41A lot of people, we have people,
- 1:30:44we have customers that
- 1:30:45change their drain plugs.
- 1:30:46- To fit their mood.
- 1:30:47- Kind of like with the season.
- 1:30:49With their mood, with the season.
- 1:30:50- There's nothing wrong with that.
- 1:30:52There's nothing wrong
- 1:30:52with that, but it's funny.
- 1:30:54(laughing)
- 1:30:55- Yeah.
- 1:30:56It's, and they're not
- 1:30:57that hard to pull in and out.
- 1:30:59They snap into the sheet metal.
- 1:31:00So they go through our floor and snap in
- 1:31:02and hold into the sheet metal.
- 1:31:04The biggest, probably the biggest issue
- 1:31:07that we have with customers in terms
- 1:31:09is getting them to push hard enough
- 1:31:10so that they hear that
- 1:31:11pop into the sheet metal.
- 1:31:13But yes, a lot of our
- 1:31:15customers will pull out the black ones,
- 1:31:17put in a different color, depending on
- 1:31:18what the occasion is.
- 1:31:20Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
- 1:31:22We have a lot of customers
- 1:31:23that run with the pink plugs.
- 1:31:24And then when that's
- 1:31:25over, they put back in
- 1:31:26whatever their favorite accent color is.
- 1:31:28- Well, there's some people that outfit their Jeep
- 1:31:29for breast cancer awareness.
- 1:31:30And it's always the wrap or the colors
- 1:31:33that they have on the outside.
- 1:31:34And this gives you the
- 1:31:35opportunity to match that
- 1:31:37at least somewhat on the inside.
- 1:31:39So it's cool.
- 1:31:39I mean, that's what Jeeps
- 1:31:41are all about is customization.
- 1:31:42And this is just another aspect
- 1:31:45of making that Jeep more your Jeep.
- 1:31:49- Exactly.
- 1:31:50- So I did want to mention
- 1:31:52you guys have the flooring,
- 1:31:55the floor mats, not
- 1:31:56floor mats, I'm sorry.
- 1:31:58The carpet replacement
- 1:32:00for the TJ, the JK, the JKU,
- 1:32:06so two door or four door, the JLUs.
- 1:32:11Oh, and I think maybe
- 1:32:12there is a little difference
- 1:32:14between the JLU and the four by E.
- 1:32:18Yeah, so you make sure that you guys know
- 1:32:21that if you've got a four by E,
- 1:32:22then you can get it for your four by E.
- 1:32:25Of course, we mentioned
- 1:32:26the JT and the JL also too.
- 1:32:30And I'm just going to mention this
- 1:32:31because I'm feeling nice.
- 1:32:33You guys have them for
- 1:32:34the Bronco, the Ford Bronco,
- 1:32:36the proper Bronco, not the Bronco Sport,
- 1:32:38which isn't really a Bronco.
- 1:32:40- Correct, and I wasn't
- 1:32:42sure we were allowed to mention
- 1:32:43the B word when talking to
- 1:32:45you, but yeah, it's in fact,
- 1:32:46we're in the middle of launching the
- 1:32:48Bronco floor right now.
- 1:32:51And it's exciting
- 1:32:53because there aren't as many
- 1:32:58true wheelers out
- 1:32:59there yet in that market.
- 1:33:01I think you've got some old schoolers
- 1:33:03that are really embracing the new Bronco.
- 1:33:05And again, to your point, not the Sport,
- 1:33:07but the real Bronco.
- 1:33:08But they've done a good job at Ford
- 1:33:11of building that vehicle for the trail.
- 1:33:14It is, the following is growing.
- 1:33:16And for almost all of us
- 1:33:18out here in the aftermarket,
- 1:33:19I think it's a real opportunity
- 1:33:21to take the lessons we've learned
- 1:33:23with the Jeep community for so many years
- 1:33:24and apply that to-
- 1:33:26- Well, you guys should
- 1:33:26make some money, that's fine.
- 1:33:28It'll never be as good
- 1:33:29as a Jeep, but yeah, sure.
- 1:33:31Throw them a bone.
- 1:33:33(laughing)
- 1:33:34- We'll throw them a bone.
- 1:33:36And then we'll start it out on the trail,
- 1:33:37which is actually the better vehicle.
- 1:33:39But I'll say this, it
- 1:33:41wasn't on our priority list,
- 1:33:43but someone called our
- 1:33:44attention to these Bronco forums
- 1:33:47and said, "Hey, they're
- 1:33:47calling for your product.
- 1:33:49"They're calling for Armor Light.
- 1:33:50"You guys should go check that out."
- 1:33:52So we started
- 1:33:53following and getting involved
- 1:33:54in some of these forums.
- 1:33:55And sure enough, these are people
- 1:33:56that bring in home brand new vehicles.
- 1:33:59And the first thing they're saying is,
- 1:34:00"I want this carpet out."
- 1:34:01Along with other decisions they make
- 1:34:03about how they wanna
- 1:34:03fit it up for the trail.
- 1:34:05I want this carpet out and I want the,
- 1:34:07they heard about, because
- 1:34:08their buddies have a Jeep
- 1:34:09or whatever, I want
- 1:34:10this armor light system.
- 1:34:11- Or their turncoat bastards,
- 1:34:12they got rid of their
- 1:34:13Jeep and got a Bronco.
- 1:34:14I'm just gonna throw that out there.
- 1:34:16That day, and they know
- 1:34:18it because they've used it.
- 1:34:19And they go, "Damn, I want this.
- 1:34:21"I had this on my
- 1:34:21Jeep, but it was wonderful.
- 1:34:22"I want it for the Bronco."
- 1:34:24(laughing)
- 1:34:25- There are some
- 1:34:27turncoats out there, yes.
- 1:34:30(laughing)
- 1:34:30- Yeah, well, that's great.
- 1:34:32I mean, it's absolutely wonderful.
- 1:34:34I've got a good friend.
- 1:34:35We actually do a monthly get
- 1:34:37together here in Cady, Texas
- 1:34:39at Jeep Beats in the old town Cady.
- 1:34:42And he does the graphics.
- 1:34:44He does graphics wraps and
- 1:34:46interior and all kinds of stuff.
- 1:34:47So he has a Bronco that he loves.
- 1:34:51He loves driving on the highway,
- 1:34:52but he has a very well built up Gladiator
- 1:34:55that he uses for off road.
- 1:34:57And he's doing great business
- 1:34:59because Bronco owners
- 1:35:00want to have those graphics
- 1:35:01on their vehicles
- 1:35:02just like Jeep owners do.
- 1:35:03So it makes sense that the great products
- 1:35:06that have been developed for Jeeps
- 1:35:07that like you guys have developed,
- 1:35:09the Bronco owners are
- 1:35:10gonna want that too.
- 1:35:11So yeah, absolutely.
- 1:35:12I have no problem with
- 1:35:13anybody having a Bronco.
- 1:35:15I'm not interested in
- 1:35:16them because I like Jeeps.
- 1:35:17That's the only thing that I care about.
- 1:35:19Also too, my tie rods don't break
- 1:35:21whenever I take it off road.
- 1:35:23But that's another story.
- 1:35:24I always have to throw
- 1:35:25that in, a little dig.
- 1:35:28(laughing) - That's a little dig.
- 1:35:30- All right, so TJs.
- 1:35:31Now on the TJs, you can
- 1:35:33actually Jeep out a bit.
- 1:35:35And you correct me on any of these,
- 1:35:37maybe it's on several of the products.
- 1:35:39I've only looked at the TJ stuff
- 1:35:41because of my wife's Jeep
- 1:35:42that I was telling you about earlier.
- 1:35:43You can get on the TJ,
- 1:35:45you can get the front piece
- 1:35:47or the rear piece or the whole thing.
- 1:35:50So you could actually,
- 1:35:51if you wanted to start
- 1:35:52with the front, you could get the front
- 1:35:54and then later on as you
- 1:35:55collect the aluminum cans
- 1:35:56and stuff, save up and
- 1:35:58get the back piece too.
- 1:35:59Actually it's a three piece, isn't it?
- 1:36:01Because you can get the one
- 1:36:02for the cargo area as well.
- 1:36:04Is that correct?
- 1:36:06- Customers who started, and by the way,
- 1:36:09it's across all of our products.
- 1:36:11You can get just the fronts.
- 1:36:13And then a lot of our
- 1:36:14customers get just the fronts
- 1:36:15and we see them again about a year later,
- 1:36:17they get the mid,
- 1:36:17which is the backseat area.
- 1:36:19And then we see them again a year later
- 1:36:20and they get the rest
- 1:36:21of the, they finish out
- 1:36:22the whole cargo area and
- 1:36:23the wheelhouse area and so on.
- 1:36:25And we have others that are
- 1:36:26happy just to have the fronts
- 1:36:27because they have rebuilt or
- 1:36:28reconfigured everything past.
- 1:36:30- That's a great comment.
- 1:36:31- Yeah, I didn't think about that
- 1:36:32because a lot of people modify things
- 1:36:34and they don't need every piece of it.
- 1:36:38- Exactly.
- 1:36:40So we tried to, and we,
- 1:36:41again, we learned that being out
- 1:36:42on the trail that we can't
- 1:36:44just have one product fits all.
- 1:36:47It had to be, okay, people
- 1:36:48use their rigs differently
- 1:36:49and they build them differently.
- 1:36:51So for those that only need the fronts,
- 1:36:53we've got you covered.
- 1:36:54You have a bench rear bench
- 1:36:56seat that you use periodically,
- 1:36:58but not all the time.
- 1:36:59Okay, maybe you only
- 1:37:00need that midsection,
- 1:37:01but nothing in the very
- 1:37:02back because a lot of folks put
- 1:37:04a lot of different
- 1:37:05things in the cargo area
- 1:37:07that wouldn't require
- 1:37:08any kind of a surface.
- 1:37:09And there's certainly no
- 1:37:10heat to worry about back there.
- 1:37:12Like there would be
- 1:37:13coming through the tunnel
- 1:37:14and you're exhausted
- 1:37:15to them in the front.
- 1:37:16So yeah, everyone has different needs.
- 1:37:20Some people want the entire vehicle kit.
- 1:37:21They don't want any more
- 1:37:23carpet in that vehicle.
- 1:37:25And others are just happy with the fronts
- 1:37:27or some combination of
- 1:37:28fronts in the midsection
- 1:37:29and they stop there.
- 1:37:31And for all of the different models,
- 1:37:32we can accommodate those different needs.
- 1:37:34- Advantages, you don't
- 1:37:35have to worry about water
- 1:37:37because the water that gets in there,
- 1:37:39the majority of the time
- 1:37:41is going to evaporate away.
- 1:37:42You don't have to worry about the smell
- 1:37:44because of the
- 1:37:44material that you guys use.
- 1:37:46It does not have any mold or mildew.
- 1:37:48So you don't have to
- 1:37:49worry about that aspect of it.
- 1:37:51It's not, put it in, take it out,
- 1:37:54put it in, take it out like you would
- 1:37:55have to do with carpet.
- 1:37:57And then you install it and
- 1:37:58it's meant to stay installed.
- 1:37:59You can remove it, of
- 1:38:00course, if you have to,
- 1:38:02but it's meant to stay installed,
- 1:38:04which means a convenience factor.
- 1:38:06It looks good.
- 1:38:07It looks off-road-ish, which we all like.
- 1:38:10I don't care who you are.
- 1:38:11You'd like something
- 1:38:12looking custom and off-road
- 1:38:14and this is going to be different.
- 1:38:16So when you're at the
- 1:38:17mall and people are looking
- 1:38:18at your Jeep and they
- 1:38:19look in there and go,
- 1:38:19"Ooh, do you take this off-road?"
- 1:38:21Because they're going
- 1:38:21to look in there and say,
- 1:38:22"Oh, look at this."
- 1:38:23He even did something interior
- 1:38:24or she even did something interior
- 1:38:26to help this thing look good.
- 1:38:28I really don't see a downside to this,
- 1:38:30especially if you
- 1:38:31don't have fitted formats
- 1:38:33or if you're planning on getting some
- 1:38:36and this is going to save you,
- 1:38:37I mean, it would have saved me 120 bucks.
- 1:38:40So I don't see any downside to this.
- 1:38:43Am I missing anything?
- 1:38:44Not initially a downside,
- 1:38:45but am I missing anything
- 1:38:46that's a positive for these?
- 1:38:51- Yes, one thing,
- 1:38:54and it's probably one of
- 1:38:55the better selling features
- 1:38:56that we've overlooked completely and
- 1:38:57that's cleanability.
- 1:38:59It's so much easier to
- 1:39:00clean the vehicle out
- 1:39:01after the trail.
- 1:39:03Or again, like I said,
- 1:39:04it might just be the picking up the kids
- 1:39:05from soccer or from school
- 1:39:07and they've spilled their
- 1:39:08ice cream, their drinks,
- 1:39:10their whatever all over the place.
- 1:39:11You open the drains, you get a hose,
- 1:39:13you hose it out the
- 1:39:14drain, you close the drain
- 1:39:16and it's back to factory clean.
- 1:39:18And the worst case we've ever had,
- 1:39:20we use a tire brush,
- 1:39:22maybe with a little bit of
- 1:39:23Dawn dish soap or Adam's cleaner.
- 1:39:25There's a spray cleaner called Adam's.
- 1:39:27We sell that too,
- 1:39:27because it works so well.
- 1:39:28It will bring it back to
- 1:39:29factory clean every time.
- 1:39:32Like I said before, there's
- 1:39:33no fading, it doesn't stain.
- 1:39:35We haven't found
- 1:39:36anything yet that will stain it.
- 1:39:37And with there are some stubborn areas
- 1:39:39that might be stained
- 1:39:40with salt or something,
- 1:39:41a little bit of
- 1:39:42scrubbing with the tire brush
- 1:39:43back to factory clean every time.
- 1:39:45So cleanability has
- 1:39:46been a very big feature
- 1:39:47that a lot of folks seem to be very--
- 1:39:49- Yeah, I can see that.
- 1:39:49And I'm gonna recommend
- 1:39:50that when you're hosing out
- 1:39:52the inside of your Jeep,
- 1:39:53leave the kids in there,
- 1:39:54especially if they've made the mess.
- 1:39:56You can clean them off at the same time.
- 1:39:58Just take them to the car
- 1:39:58wash, you know, and shh.
- 1:40:01(laughing)
- 1:40:02- That's a very good point.
- 1:40:04- I actually, the little
- 1:40:05brats will probably love it.
- 1:40:07(laughing) Again, again.
- 1:40:08- Yeah, that's true, do it more.
- 1:40:11- All right, so we haven't mentioned this
- 1:40:13and I don't know if
- 1:40:14this is across the board,
- 1:40:15but I know the standard color is,
- 1:40:18I don't wanna call it a black,
- 1:40:19maybe that's what you
- 1:40:19guys refer to it as,
- 1:40:20because it doesn't look
- 1:40:21like it's a deep black.
- 1:40:22It kind of looks like a, maybe a charcoal
- 1:40:25or something that's blackish.
- 1:40:26Maybe it's just the
- 1:40:26pictures I'm seeing here.
- 1:40:28So, but you have the
- 1:40:30black or the charcoal,
- 1:40:31whatever you wanna call it.
- 1:40:32And you have another color.
- 1:40:34Is that across the board
- 1:40:36or is it just for certain models?
- 1:40:39- It's available for any of our products.
- 1:40:42That's more of a special order now
- 1:40:43because we call it Mesa
- 1:40:45Smoke is the black one.
- 1:40:46It's a charcoal one
- 1:40:47that you just described.
- 1:40:48That is by far the most popular.
- 1:40:51Especially with TJ, but we have,
- 1:40:53every now and then we
- 1:40:54have a nice run on the khaki
- 1:40:56and it's a desert khaki.
- 1:41:00Also in the beach, parts of
- 1:41:03the country like Florida again,
- 1:41:06beach sand in the khaki,
- 1:41:08you can't even see the sand.
- 1:41:09It blends in very nicely.
- 1:41:10So we do get orders for it,
- 1:41:13but not nearly at the same magnitude
- 1:41:15as we do the charcoal color.
- 1:41:18So we'll make those on special order,
- 1:41:20which just means we'll
- 1:41:22wait to a certain point.
- 1:41:24I think it says on our website,
- 1:41:25you could wait up to 90
- 1:41:26days when we'll run the khakis,
- 1:41:30but we will make them
- 1:41:31for any of our vehicles.
- 1:41:32- And the thing I'll mention is,
- 1:41:34you know, some of the,
- 1:41:35especially in the TJ realm,
- 1:41:36I don't know about the later wranglers,
- 1:41:38but some of the TJs came
- 1:41:40with a khaki or tan top.
- 1:41:43And I'm thinking that if you have that,
- 1:41:45you might want to match
- 1:41:45it or somewhat match it
- 1:41:48with a flooring.
- 1:41:49I get to see that that
- 1:41:50would kind of make it pop
- 1:41:51when you get in there.
- 1:41:52Some people just like that.
- 1:41:53It's the same with guns.
- 1:41:54Some people like the black guns.
- 1:41:56Some people like the
- 1:41:57desert motif on there.
- 1:42:00I like anything that people can't see
- 1:42:01because I want me having
- 1:42:02a gun to be a surprise.
- 1:42:07(laughing) So, but anyway.
- 1:42:08- Yeah, so black and tan is popular too.
- 1:42:11Some folks like to mix the tan floor
- 1:42:13with the black interior.
- 1:42:15And that is a nice look.
- 1:42:16- You can piece it
- 1:42:18together however you like it.
- 1:42:19That's interesting.
- 1:42:21- We'll do all khaki floor,
- 1:42:24but because their whole interior,
- 1:42:25like the IP and the seats
- 1:42:26and everything else is black,
- 1:42:28they just like to have contrast.
- 1:42:29- I was thinking you
- 1:42:29could buy some khaki,
- 1:42:30some Mesa smoke.
- 1:42:33- No, that would mess
- 1:42:34up my inventory too much.
- 1:42:35- That's really nice.
- 1:42:36I think there's like a,
- 1:42:37just looking at the TJ,
- 1:42:399806, there is a, I
- 1:42:41think a $10 difference.
- 1:42:43It's a $10 more for the desert khaki.
- 1:42:46So just FYI.
- 1:42:47And at least that's what it was
- 1:42:48when we recorded this
- 1:42:50interview, it could always change.
- 1:42:52All right, so the only
- 1:42:53thing I can see here,
- 1:42:54the only problem I can see
- 1:42:55here is you don't do red.
- 1:42:57Cause I'm thinking red
- 1:42:58flooring would be a big winner.
- 1:43:03The two people.
- 1:43:05- What was the idea of custom colors?
- 1:43:07- The two people that would order it.
- 1:43:09(laughing) But I'll tell you what, red drain plugs
- 1:43:13and the black floor look really nice.
- 1:43:14- It's nice too, cause if
- 1:43:15you have a red Jeep like I do,
- 1:43:18it helps accent the flooring
- 1:43:21to match the color
- 1:43:22combination on the Jeep.
- 1:43:24So yeah, it's really cool.
- 1:43:25And it's all about
- 1:43:26modifications, I think.
- 1:43:28I mean, if you're, even if
- 1:43:29you're not an off-roader,
- 1:43:31you can easily get
- 1:43:32into the modifications.
- 1:43:33It's just so much fun
- 1:43:34buying all this stuff,
- 1:43:36the multi-billion dollar
- 1:43:37aftermarket that's available.
- 1:43:39And that includes you guys.
- 1:43:41And I'll just say, I really
- 1:43:42appreciate you guys doing this
- 1:43:43because if you guys weren't doing it,
- 1:43:45somebody else might do it,
- 1:43:47but they may not do it as well as what
- 1:43:48you guys are doing it.
- 1:43:49And love your product.
- 1:43:51And I have seen it in Bill's Jeep.
- 1:43:53And yeah, I'm definitely
- 1:43:56interested in getting this
- 1:43:58in the future for my wife's TJ.
- 1:44:00Cause it just, little details like this
- 1:44:02just make your Jeep, make you
- 1:44:04feel better about your Jeep.
- 1:44:05And it shows it to people.
- 1:44:07It's something to be proud
- 1:44:08of when you make modifications
- 1:44:09to your Jeep with quality products.
- 1:44:12- Our best seller is word of mouth
- 1:44:16from one Jeep owner to the next
- 1:44:18because they all like to
- 1:44:19keep track of what the other
- 1:44:20is putting into their Jeep and how
- 1:44:21they're upfitting them.
- 1:44:22So that, you know that, right?
- 1:44:24Your Jeep and buddies are
- 1:44:25looking at what you've done.
- 1:44:26- Where'd you get that?
- 1:44:27What the hell is that?
- 1:44:28Why does that look all British?
- 1:44:30Oh, do you know about this?
- 1:44:31My God, it's been around forever.
- 1:44:33And then you don't have to
- 1:44:34tell them it's about 2020.
- 1:44:36(laughing) - Really, really cool.
- 1:44:40Dave, this is a lot of fun.
- 1:44:41I think I mentioned to
- 1:44:43everybody listening here
- 1:44:44that the last interview
- 1:44:46we did was episode 7.25
- 1:44:48back in December of 2022.
- 1:44:50Go back and listen to that.
- 1:44:51I'm sure there's some
- 1:44:52things we covered there
- 1:44:53that we didn't cover here.
- 1:44:55But I personally think
- 1:44:57this is a great product.
- 1:44:58I am personally gonna
- 1:44:59get some in the future
- 1:45:00for at least my wife's TJ.
- 1:45:04And I think that you all
- 1:45:05to have a really hard look
- 1:45:07at this stuff because
- 1:45:07if for no other reason,
- 1:45:10it allows you to the
- 1:45:11convenience and not have to clean
- 1:45:14and worry about the water
- 1:45:15that you get in your Jeep,
- 1:45:16that smell.
- 1:45:17And if you haven't lived
- 1:45:19through that smell yet,
- 1:45:20it's not like a dead body or anything.
- 1:45:22You don't have to put
- 1:45:23anything up your nose
- 1:45:24like a crime scene
- 1:45:26investigator, but it's not pleasant.
- 1:45:28So this looks good.
- 1:45:30It's fitted.
- 1:45:31It's not gonna slide
- 1:45:32around like you mentioned
- 1:45:33about getting it out of
- 1:45:33the Jeep on off camber
- 1:45:35or any situation.
- 1:45:37Oh, so we've got a
- 1:45:39Jeep Talk Show team member
- 1:45:41that other team members bitch about
- 1:45:43because he will armor all his floor mats.
- 1:45:47This stuff looks nice and
- 1:45:49shiny without the armor all,
- 1:45:50which is really just a way
- 1:45:52to slip and slide in your Jeep
- 1:45:53when you're getting in it.
- 1:45:56(laughs)
- 1:45:56- It's the last thing.
- 1:45:59The last thing you put on
- 1:46:01any kind of a vinyl surface
- 1:46:02is armor all.
- 1:46:03- Unless you want to go ice skating.
- 1:46:05- So you don't have to clean it.
- 1:46:07You can just air
- 1:46:09blow, take an air blower.
- 1:46:11Oh, that's kind of the
- 1:46:12caddy shack cleaning, isn't it?
- 1:46:13That's what Bill Murray
- 1:46:14cleaned out his little room,
- 1:46:16wasn't it, with a leaf blower.
- 1:46:18So, and easy to clean.
- 1:46:22It's just convenient.
- 1:46:23It's a nice product.
- 1:46:24Check it out.
- 1:46:25Go ArmorLight.com.
- 1:46:27Dave, where can the kids
- 1:46:28find you guys on social media?
- 1:46:30You know how the kids love
- 1:46:31the social media these days.
- 1:46:33- Yeah, well, it's at Go ArmorLight
- 1:46:36and we're in Facebook,
- 1:46:38we're in Twitter and Instagram,
- 1:46:40and we also have a YouTube channel.
- 1:46:42- Very, very cool.
- 1:46:42Thank you so much for being here.
- 1:46:44We'll have to get you back in the future
- 1:46:45just so we can make
- 1:46:46sure people know about this
- 1:46:48really, really nice product.
- 1:46:50I mean, if America's most
- 1:46:51wanted four by four uses,
- 1:46:53it's gotta be good.
- 1:46:56(laughs) - Yeah, enough said.
- 1:46:58Thank you, Tony.
- 1:46:59- Hey, thanks again to
- 1:47:00David Ladd of ArmorLight.
- 1:47:02Visit the website right
- 1:47:03now, Go ArmorLight.com,
- 1:47:06and you know the Jeep Talk Show
- 1:47:07officially loves ArmorLight.
- 1:47:10I think you will too.
- 1:47:13Hey, coming up next week,
- 1:47:14Josh Davis with Pocket Change LJ,
- 1:47:17and I say with, that's who he is.
- 1:47:19So this isn't a company.
- 1:47:21This is a jeeper with a story.
- 1:47:23Think you're gonna enjoy it.
- 1:47:25He is doing great things with his LJ.
- 1:47:31And that's wrapped today for this episode
- 1:47:33of the Jeep Talk Show.
- 1:47:34I wanna give a big thank
- 1:47:35you to our special guest
- 1:47:35for joining us today and
- 1:47:37sharing their knowledge
- 1:47:38and experience with the Jeep community.
- 1:47:40Remember, we have four episodes a week,
- 1:47:43and well, you know, Chick Chat looks like
- 1:47:45it's gonna be every Monday,
- 1:47:47so I'll be announcing soon,
- 1:47:49I believe, that we are
- 1:47:51doing five episodes a week.
- 1:47:54Anyway, with four episodes a week,
- 1:47:56it's understandable if
- 1:47:57you've missed past episodes.
- 1:47:59You can always find us on
- 1:48:00your favorite podcast platform
- 1:48:02or on our website with over 1,000,
- 1:48:06with over 1,020, with over,
- 1:48:09what the hell episode are we on?
- 1:48:11With over 1,030 episodes,
- 1:48:15there is plenty of Jeep Talk
- 1:48:17Show to keep you entertained,
- 1:48:18keep you motivated, whether
- 1:48:21you're out mowing the grass,
- 1:48:23working out in the gym,
- 1:48:24maybe driving to an
- 1:48:25off-roading destination.
- 1:48:26So yeah, check out
- 1:48:28all of our back catalog,
- 1:48:29there's a lot to listen to.
- 1:48:31Oh, and you know, we love
- 1:48:32hearing from you, our lister.
- 1:48:33Reach out to us via
- 1:48:35email, phone, and social media.
- 1:48:36We use your voicemails on the show.
- 1:48:39So until next time, keep on jeeping
- 1:48:41and we'll see you on the trails.
- 1:48:43Oh, and really quickly,
- 1:48:45don't forget about the Jeep Talk Show
- 1:48:47off-road event Texas,
- 1:48:49coming up on June 7th and 8th.
- 1:48:53Just head over to our Discord server
- 1:48:55or jeeptalkshow.com to
- 1:48:57find out more information.
- 1:48:59Hey, Fridays are red.
- 1:49:00Remember, everyone deployed.
- 1:49:07- Broadcasting since 2010.
- 1:49:10- Not Ferris Bueller, what is that?
- 1:49:13The, not Bubba Gump.
- 1:49:15Oh my God, the Forrest Gump wave.
- 1:49:19(laughs)
- 1:49:19- You're my friend, you're my new friend.