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The O-Zone Podcast | Hainsey on Offensive Growth, O-Line Play & Team Culture · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Soon.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome into this Ota Week two Ozone podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm joined again by Cananie Stevens and our interview this
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  Speaker 2: week is Jaguars center Robert Hainsey, which I've not had
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  Speaker 2: him on the ozone podcast before. I'm looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: He's interesting. Offensive linemen are always interesting. But we'll get
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  Speaker 2: started with six good minutes. I'm gonna call him three
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: moderate takes. There's not that much going on. They all
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  Speaker 2: hit OTA's which are ongoing, and I guess hot take
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  Speaker 2: one is BTJ is an Ota Starky sure.
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  Speaker 3: Is, And well that sounds a little silly. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's just mindsets a little bit different, which is nice
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  Speaker 3: to see. And we saw him kind of struggle visually,
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  Speaker 3: struggling in training camp last year, obviously a little bit
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  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season as well, and just
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  Speaker 3: speaking to him, he sounds like he's in a different
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  Speaker 3: place mentally, his motivation is a little bit different, and
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  Speaker 3: we're seeing good chemistry between him and Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 2: He's an interesting guy because the fantasy football exkews how
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  Speaker 2: players are perceived, I think because it's all stats and look,
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  Speaker 2: he was not as productive last year as he had
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  Speaker 2: been in twenty twenty four, But I don't think there's
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  Speaker 2: a very big jump that he needs to take to
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  Speaker 2: be exactly what his team needs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think just kind of cutting out the drops
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  Speaker 3: and just being good teammate, which I think he has been,
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  Speaker 3: but maybe was getting a little down on himself. And
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  Speaker 3: Liam Cohn's been very vocal about this is a team
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  Speaker 3: where they spread the ball out.
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  Speaker 4: It's not going to just be one guy.
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  Speaker 3: And so if Brian can be successful when he gets
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  Speaker 3: his opportunities, that's what success looks like for him.
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  Speaker 2: And he's hit, you know, given too much away. They've
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  Speaker 2: hit some deep stuff to him in OTAs, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it's a secret at this point if they
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  Speaker 2: why there's seventeen games, if they hit five more deep
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  Speaker 2: ones to them next year, you know, so you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about that sort of MFA. They already hit him last year.
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  Speaker 2: But as you're developing this offense and as defenses adapt
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  Speaker 2: to what you're doing, there is an evolution process that
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  Speaker 2: takes place. They've clearly talked about needing more deep stuff
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  Speaker 2: to happen next year. Clearly they're working on that, and
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  Speaker 2: there's so much that can open up with this offense
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  Speaker 2: next year. So many ways it can improve to me
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  Speaker 2: being a little better running in the situations where they
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  Speaker 2: want to run, having the tight ends be a little
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  Speaker 2: more involved, and then if you get this little bit
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  Speaker 2: more deep. I don't know what their yards per attempt
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  Speaker 2: goal is, but if you hit again four or five
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  Speaker 2: more of those, boy, the offense, which was already really good,
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  Speaker 2: can really look like you know, one of quote those offenses.
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  Speaker 4: It won't take much to kind of get it there.
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  Speaker 3: There's a ton of options for them that other other
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  Speaker 3: people you want to get involved. As mentioned, if he
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  Speaker 3: can get a couple more catches in the deep range
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  Speaker 3: and open things up, that's success.
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  Speaker 2: My second and all these I have written down with
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  Speaker 2: an exclamation point, guy, because.
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  Speaker 4: Because they're important to OTAs they're big. Parker Washington's still good,
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  Speaker 4: sure is.
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  Speaker 2: And we've joked before about how every time you see
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  Speaker 2: him make a play, you're like, Okay, there he goes again.
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  Speaker 4: How did he do it?
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  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of it is everybody had
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  Speaker 2: sort of this preconceived idea of Parker. He doesn't overwelling
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  Speaker 2: with his size. He was a sixth round pick for
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  Speaker 2: the first couple of years, sort of I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if the team had trouble finding what he did and
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  Speaker 2: if he wasn't ready for the role. But last you're
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  Speaker 2: during training camp, he did it, and there he was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's see he does it again. During the regular season,
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  Speaker 2: he kept doing it, and he kept doing it, and
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  Speaker 2: now in OTAs, he just looks like a really good
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  Speaker 2: professional football player now, which is what he is.
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  Speaker 3: Talked to him last week and he talked a little
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  Speaker 3: bit about his journey, right because at first he wasn't
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  Speaker 3: getting playing time. We thought maybe he's a Christian Kirk
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  Speaker 3: replacement slot guy. Then he started returning kicks punts and like, wait,
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  Speaker 3: there's a skill set there. He's making plays on special teams.
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  Speaker 3: Then he becomes the guy on offense that'll go up
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  Speaker 3: and get the ball even though he's the shorter guy
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  Speaker 3: and he's physical, and he's kind of been thrust into
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  Speaker 3: many different roles due to injury over the years or
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  Speaker 3: just necessity, and he's excelled at all of them and
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  Speaker 3: probably one of the best training temps I've ever seen
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  Speaker 3: out of a player. Last year he earned his spot
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  Speaker 3: and in a contract year, I don't think he'll lack
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  Speaker 3: any motivation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know that he ever will. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: some guys are just who they are. They're all independent contractors.
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  Speaker 2: Meaning look in this league, nice to talk about team,
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  Speaker 2: but you make your own way, and you're either going
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  Speaker 2: to fail or succeed. And I think he talked about
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  Speaker 2: it with you in the clip we showed earlier today
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  Speaker 2: on Not Jaguars Am. How he he really never listens
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  Speaker 2: to people who say what he can or can't do.
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  Speaker 2: He has just kept getting better and better and always
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  Speaker 2: believed in the Parker Washington Company, if you will, and
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  Speaker 2: never assume that because other people said this, this or this.
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  Speaker 2: He always believed he could excel. And you know, he's
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  Speaker 2: an interesting guy when you talk to him, he's I
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  Speaker 2: want to say a little different, but you know, like
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  Speaker 2: he's maybe a little bit quirky and off to himself
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  Speaker 2: sometime in practice working. But I really respect him and
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  Speaker 2: really like how he approaches it because he's flat out
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to fail. You know, this is who
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  Speaker 2: I am as a player, and I'm gonna you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do everything I can to succeed.
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  Speaker 3: And he does you ever talk to those people and
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  Speaker 3: they say something really confidently and you don't know if
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  Speaker 3: they're right or not, but they said it so strongly
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  Speaker 3: that you believe them. He's been that way about his
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  Speaker 3: play for so long. I feel like he earned Trevor's
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  Speaker 3: trust based on him being so sure about himself and
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  Speaker 3: where it could be. And now I feel like one
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  Speaker 3: of the most trusted receivers that Trevor Lawrence has is
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  Speaker 3: Parker Washington.
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  Speaker 4: And maybe two years.
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  Speaker 3: Ago that was not something I thought I would be saying.
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  Speaker 2: And I hope I said that right because I was
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  Speaker 2: trying to find my point. But he really I respect
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  Speaker 2: him so much because of just that perseverance, and he
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  Speaker 2: is not going to change how he approaches the game
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  Speaker 2: or he's talking. I'm sure there were worry points in
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  Speaker 2: his career because they're always over with these guys, but boy,
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  Speaker 2: has he stepped up and stepped through it. So the
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  Speaker 2: last thing I have down here again with an exclamation
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  Speaker 2: point BTJ and Traylon healthy health is wealth.
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  Speaker 4: Health is something.
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  Speaker 2: This is a health time of year. Most guys come
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  Speaker 2: out and talk about being healthy.
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  Speaker 3: But you can see it differently as well, the way
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  Speaker 3: Brian's running around. Trayvon talked about just feeling better working
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  Speaker 3: on that grip strength that he didn't have last year,
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  Speaker 3: which you see Trayvon out in the field, and a
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  Speaker 3: fifty percent healthy Trayvon Walker is still better than a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people in the NFL but him, which proves
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  Speaker 3: the point even more. If he's one hundred percent, what's
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  Speaker 3: that defense going to look like? Because he can tackle
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  Speaker 3: people without the use of his hand. Now he's got
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  Speaker 3: his hand back, it's going to look better. So just
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  Speaker 3: maintaining that health and throughout the season, which is more
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  Speaker 3: easier said than done. But if they can do that,
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  Speaker 3: sky's the limit.
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  Speaker 2: From both you se remember the Titans of course, and
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  Speaker 2: Julian Campbell called Britier Superman. Remember Trayvon to me is
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  Speaker 2: sort of superman on this defense?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, meaning too many.
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  Speaker 2: He is the guy and uh TUIs Campbell was just
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  Speaker 2: as good as a tier by the way, So I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what, but you know, to me, Trayvon when
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  Speaker 2: he's healthy, is the Jaguars defensive superman, meaning two or
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  Speaker 2: three guys might be able to block him. And I
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  Speaker 2: just have this picture of like cartoon Trayvon just throwing
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  Speaker 2: people off, right, And I don't think he could be that.
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  Speaker 2: Last year he was still really really good. But I
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  Speaker 2: asked him in the presser on Monday. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was tell me the difference when your hand isn't right.
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  Speaker 2: And it was such a stupid question because obviously with
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  Speaker 2: the defensive end, I think about what you can't do
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  Speaker 2: when you can't grab. But how much better he can be?
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  Speaker 2: And shifting over to BTJ his quote and if you
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  Speaker 2: were there when he talked, somebody asked him about health
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  Speaker 2: and he said, I can run it doesn't hurt. Well, again,
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  Speaker 2: we see these guys as Madden figures and we don't
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  Speaker 2: really factor in even when they're playing. There's things they
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  Speaker 2: can't do. If you're running around as a receiver and
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  Speaker 2: it hurts to run, that's got to be tough.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at him like a video game
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  Speaker 3: character with health bars, probably close to the red than
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  Speaker 3: you realize. And now when you're all the way green,
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  Speaker 3: they can do stuff that is normal to them, but
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  Speaker 3: it's not with a pain associated to it, and we
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  Speaker 3: can do that more freely.
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  Speaker 4: That's a great thing.
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  Speaker 3: And training that way as well with the full capabilities
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  Speaker 3: is something different for us to see and hopefully it
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  Speaker 3: translates in the regular season.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking about two your better players being one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent and not. League is a league of injuries. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: two Pro Bowl level guys who if they're healthy, it
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  Speaker 2: looks a lot different. We're going to go now to
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars, I mean to the ozone podcast interview with
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars center Robert Hainsey. Been waiting a while to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Always look forward to talking to you. I know you've
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of insight into center play, the offensive line,
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  Speaker 2: this team. First, just tell me about this off season,
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  Speaker 2: you know it is there a different vibe to this
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  Speaker 2: off season there was last year for you?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think team why yeah, for like the whole
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  Speaker 5: group you mean, yeah, yeah, I this year there was
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  Speaker 5: a lot of new I know, a lot of the
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  Speaker 5: guys who had been here have been through some new before.
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  Speaker 5: It was my first experience of like, this is a
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  Speaker 5: lot of new stuff, new team, new teammates, a lot
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  Speaker 5: of new coaches. Figuring all those things out with Tampa
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  Speaker 5: all four years, right, We've had some We had some
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  Speaker 5: minor changes, had offensive line coach change, has a head
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  Speaker 5: coach change, but it was all pretty fluid and everything
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  Speaker 5: pretty much stayed the same. There wasn't big everyone in
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  Speaker 5: the equipment room, in the training room, and the meal room.
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  Speaker 1: Everything was the same.
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  Speaker 5: So this year or last year, sorry, that was an
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  Speaker 5: adjustment to see what that's going to be like. You're
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  Speaker 5: kind of just taking it one day at a time,
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  Speaker 5: going through it, uh, trying to be yourself and understand
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  Speaker 5: what is now expected of you, what how you can
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  Speaker 5: help the team getting the no new teammates, making new friends,
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  Speaker 5: getting know your coaches.
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  Speaker 1: This year there wasn't any of that.
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  Speaker 5: There was minimal turnover besides bringing the rookies in, and
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  Speaker 5: we have had a year together where a year that
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  Speaker 5: we were all very proud of, but that we know
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  Speaker 5: we left some on the table. So now it's the
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  Speaker 5: expectations not necessarily different because our process is the same
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  Speaker 5: and that's how we're going to continue to go about things.
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  Speaker 5: But just having been together, we know what to expect
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  Speaker 5: of each other, We know what we're capable of and
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  Speaker 5: where we can take these things.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'd say, you know, even a little.
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  Speaker 5: Bit more of that like laser focus kind of mentality
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  Speaker 5: where we're ready to, like I said, process driven, sticking
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  Speaker 5: to that and how are we going to make that
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  Speaker 5: our edge?
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  Speaker 1: Right now?
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  Speaker 2: How tough is that it's easy to say, but you
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  Speaker 2: got to come in every day. And I guess the
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  Speaker 2: phrase is be intentional about, Hey, last year is last year.
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  Speaker 2: When I'm in a meeting, i can't skim over what
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  Speaker 2: I heard last year. I've got to find something new
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  Speaker 2: and I've got to take that note. I've got to
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  Speaker 2: you know, I guess it felt easy to be urgent
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  Speaker 2: last year, and you kind of got to be intentional
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  Speaker 2: about being urgent when it's not new.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure, especially with you know, some when
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  Speaker 5: you're learning some of the same things right and you're
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  Speaker 5: almost pretending like you don't know it and you're trying
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  Speaker 5: to not take for granted what.
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  Speaker 1: You do know and just building on top of what
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 5: But like, like you said, being intentional about Hey, I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna I'm gonna write this thing down that I've said
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  Speaker 5: to myself hundreds of times, but I'm just gonna write
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  Speaker 5: it down again anyway because I'm in the meeting and
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be intentional about what I'm trying to learn
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  Speaker 5: right now, Like this is what's important now?
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  Speaker 1: What can I focus on now?
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  Speaker 5: And it's really like it's the lack of complacency, you know,
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  Speaker 5: understanding that just because you've had success or have done
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  Speaker 5: well doesn't mean it's going to keep coming. And when
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  Speaker 5: you think about how you got your success in the
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  Speaker 5: first place, those are the traits you have to continue
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  Speaker 5: to use, even though you have.
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  Speaker 2: To feel it's easy to say it, but you're feeling it,
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  Speaker 2: or in the building you're feeling guys feeling.
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  Speaker 5: That certainly, yeah, yeah, which is just good. Right, That's
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  Speaker 5: how it should be. And our coaches I think have
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  Speaker 5: done a great job of of that too, you know,
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  Speaker 5: installing things like it's day one, like no one knows anything,
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  Speaker 5: like it was first day of spring last year, right,
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  Speaker 5: you know, that's they've done a really good job, especially
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  Speaker 5: on the offensive side, at least from what I've seen.
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  Speaker 1: Grant and you know, Sean BP.
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  Speaker 5: Liam is just it's day one, and we're starting at
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  Speaker 5: day one, and we're going to grow together as a
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty six Jags.
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  Speaker 2: It's a you know, in a form like this, have
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  Speaker 2: to talk to you about Liam because you've it's probably
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  Speaker 2: a different relationship with them than a lot of guys
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  Speaker 2: have known them longer. I guess, first, how good has
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  Speaker 2: he been this off season? At what you're talking about
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  Speaker 2: at making. He talked a lot earlier in the off
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  Speaker 2: season about as coaches, we have to establish these relationships again,
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  Speaker 2: we can't assume they're there. We have to keep this fresh.
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  Speaker 2: Why is he so good at that?
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  Speaker 1: I think like intentionality.
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  Speaker 5: Like we said, all the coaches I've interacted with and
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  Speaker 5: have had the chance to work with, I think it's
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  Speaker 5: if that was you know, the message you guys heard
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  Speaker 5: that he was he made it clear to the coaches
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  Speaker 5: because you can feel it, right. I think he's good
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  Speaker 5: at it because he tries. I think he cares, he
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  Speaker 5: understands that. To him, that's that's his authentic self and
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  Speaker 5: he doesn't want to be anything other than that. I
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  Speaker 5: would I would say, and I think it carries uh
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  Speaker 5: into us to where.
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  Speaker 1: You can just come in, be who you are.
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  Speaker 5: And know that these are the things I need to
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  Speaker 5: work on and everyone's you have a great support group
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  Speaker 5: for that throughout your teammates and coaches. And how are
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  Speaker 5: we going to get better as a group today? And
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  Speaker 5: what are we going to attack and what ideas can
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  Speaker 5: we bounce off each other. It's been a lot, it's
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  Speaker 5: been a lot of that which has been It's it's
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  Speaker 5: fun to that's why it's fun to kind of work
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  Speaker 5: on these things.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I know you discussed this in different forms last year.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know that you know, you knew he was
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  Speaker 2: a play caller, like you knew he could call play.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know that he would be as out of
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  Speaker 2: comfortable as the right word, but as good in front
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  Speaker 2: of the room, leading man, having those day to day conversations,
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  Speaker 2: being a leader every day, which is sort of the
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  Speaker 2: difference in a good offensive coordinator and a good head coach.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I mean I knew he had them
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  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 5: I think I had I had the expectation of that's
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  Speaker 5: how he how it was going to be. I had
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  Speaker 5: high expectation for how he performed, But I do think
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  Speaker 5: he did even I thought he did a great job,
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  Speaker 5: and he did better probably than I even expected of him.
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  Speaker 1: I told him at the end of the season.
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  Speaker 5: It was really appreciative and myself along with the rest
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  Speaker 5: of the players on team, because kind of how he
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  Speaker 5: handled that role and how authentic it did feel. Sometimes
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  Speaker 5: that's a hard that's a hard thing, but it's you know,
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  Speaker 5: it doesn't have to be. It's just who you are
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  Speaker 5: and if you're the right person for it. Like it's
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  Speaker 5: gonna it's gonna come through. You have to pretend, and
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  Speaker 5: so like you get that from him, and I thought
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  Speaker 5: last year was a great example of that. He got
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: we all got better as the year as the year
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  Speaker 5: went on, and him too is I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was proud of that and it was fun to play. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he's a fun guy.
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  Speaker 5: To play for and the energy that the team had
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  Speaker 5: because of it, I thought it was really positive.
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  Speaker 2: Now a fun guy to play for. But it's not
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  Speaker 2: like he's not tough on you. He's got that combination
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  Speaker 2: of being able to show guys that he loves him
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  Speaker 2: and cares about him. But that means being tough with expectation.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like that's the way you have to coach.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Now. I think the reason you're going to play. He's
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: talking about why do you play.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of reasons and a lot of times,
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, like teammates is a huge one. You're the
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: guys you're this goes back to college younger than that even,
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: but like the guys you're working with alongside of you
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: have such a pride that you don't want to let
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: those guys down because you know they're doing the work.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: You see it every day.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: You spend a ton of time together and you get
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: to and you get to do it together and the
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: bond is real. So like those guys when you're out there,
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: it's the guys.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Next year, it's the guys. And how the guys on.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Defense and special teams are like, man, I do not
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: I need to do everything I can for the for
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: the sake of the team, and a lot of times
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: like good coaches who have who really care about who
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: care about you as players and as a team and
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: your success and want the best for you. Those are
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: the coaches over my career who I have found that
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: they fit into that same category, because there's been other
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: coaches where they do not fit in that same category.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: And I don't know that is what it is. But
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: when you find a good coach who cares like that,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: it's the same thing. It's like I want to succeed
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: because I also don't want to let them down. And
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: he fits into that category because of because of the
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: way he is.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Like we were just talking about got.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: You, how do you or what do you focus on
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: as an offensive line to improve?
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Good year?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Very good year last year? But obviously you guys look
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: for things in the off season to get better at
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: anything in particular.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I think I think we did. We did take a
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: lot of steps last year. I thought we improved over
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: the course of the year. I think a big next
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: step for us is just even more understanding of how
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: we can Yeah, how can we take how can we
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: take that next step?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Like you said?
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: And I think a big part of that is, uh,
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: some of the adjustments running plays into uh not so
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: great looks, but to be able to just stick with
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: the play and adjusting on the move, so like running
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: plays into pressures away from pressures that typically.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: You might want to get out of, but maybe not
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: having to do as much this year.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Okay, I think that's a that's a great starting point
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: for us understanding just the intention of our plays and
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: how can we how can we help our backs, our
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: tight ends or quarterback, how can we help everyone else
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: even more by our understanding of the play and of
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: the offense.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: What's the outside of talent? And maybe it is talent,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: uh the most important trade in offensive line can have.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Mm, great question.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: My initial thought went to pride kind of like I
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: was just talking about the pride and not let each
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: other down, selflessness and accountability.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Those three things I think are.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Mandatory in an offensive lineman, just because the pride to
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: do it, to do it for someone other than you
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: kind of goes into selflessness because we know, like you say, like, oh,
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: you don't get the stats and all that stuff, but
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: I mean we've all played offensive line by this point.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: We played it for a long time, so we're not
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: really like worried about that.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: It's more so just like the.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Mundane noess of it of I'm gonna you know, I'm
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: doing this so that others can succeed, and that's and
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: that's fun. I think that's it's truly what it means
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: to like be part of a team. Football is the
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: best team sport there is, and I think offensive line
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: the five, the five offensive lineman is another embodiment of
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: what football is about. It's five guys, you got it
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: because on offense and you know, you need eleven guys
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: doing it right if you want to succeed. And part
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: of that is it's the biggest group on the field.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: There's not five of any other position out there usually
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: definitely not every play.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And the room's bigger, yeah, even practice squad.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: So that's like, you know, it's a it's another mirror
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: image of what is it to be a good teammate,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: I think, And if you treat it that way and
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: you believe in that and and love it for that,
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: then it's it's a lot of fun to play.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Now, well you catch grief from linemates, get fined for
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: talking or do you guys believe in that offenses kind
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: of give each other grief.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Like here, if they see it, I will, but I don't.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: There's a good I don't know if it doesn't, if
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: it doesn't, if it doesn't get on the Instagram that
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: they're not going to see it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Because Sarah was in here last week, so he'll probably
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: catch some grief too.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: So what is it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: About him that worked in terms of working with you guys?
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Sean, I think he's done then unbelievable job and just
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: like adapting to the way we are, he's he's kind
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: of I think we have a fun room. It's a
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: it's a good group. It's an older group but not
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: but it's all kind of similar aged. You know, we're
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: all twenty eight at the oldest, maybe nine year eight seven,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: six five, like, so it's fun because we're all in
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: like kind of that same life stage.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: That helps a lot.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: My rookie year, you know, like I was the youngest
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: and there was a lot that really old. There's some
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: older guys that there was. There's a pretty big dispersion, right,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: it's been nice. It's been fun here that we haven't
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: had a huge dispersion, so we all get along really well.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: I think just his his style of encouragement on how
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: we can improve has been has been consistent.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Well, and I get back to the previous question. You
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: see offensive lines all the time that are really really
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: good offensive lines. They don't have a Pro Bowl run,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: they don't have an All Pro, they don't have that
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: elite guy. So I guess what you're talking about. It's
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: about fit, it's about pride, it's about a lot of
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: things that aren't necessarily you know, having you know, the
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: elite Hall of Fame guy.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I think if it's harder positions to achieve that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, like we've talked, there's some there's
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: some players out there who but you know, especially like
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: the guys who are the quarterbacks and the some receivers
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: running back, you you know, you need the ball in
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: their hands to go win the game, right, you know,
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: it's it's the end of the it's the end of
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: the game. Or maybe you're in the red zone and
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: you have one of those receivers who just you know
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: where the ball is going and he's gonna go get it.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: You think back to like some of the guys who
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: are like that. Right, it's a different kind of it's
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: a different kind of thing because we have that almost
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: like every play where there's a guy across me, like
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I have to beat him on this player and nothing
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: else can really happen.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: One thing goes wrong, it's a disaster.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: It's just over and over.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: So and if you can do that like without and
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: you're not like getting you don't get the accolades and
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: all those things. Like that's fine if you if you
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: did your job to the best of your ability and
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: you want people to recognize it. Sure, that human nature.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: But I think I would take team success over those
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: individual accolades. I think, like what's cool about this team
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: is not just the offensive line, but every position would
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: say that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: What are film sessions day after game, Like with Sean.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: They're pretty they're pretty good. It's it's depends on how
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: the game. Well, no, it doesn't really depend on how
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: the game went, which is which is a good thing.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: It's just it's consistent. It's here's what here are the
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: things we did well here.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: That's what you're looking for, right, Yeah?
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: You actually yeah, So I was incorrect to say that
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: because it's that's not true. It's even if it's, you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: not our best game, we're gonna go through. We're gonna
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: coach it up. Even if we have a great game,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: we're gonna go through. We're gonna coach it up because
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: no matter what, there's always gonna be things you can
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: get better wrong, and the focus is always going to
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: be on like, hey, what's that next thing?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: How much? Uh? You know, a lot of centers I've
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: talked to over the years enjoy the leadership aspect of
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the position. To take that very seriously because you have
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: to be able to lead from that spot. Big deal
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: for you. That's something you take bride in.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I take a ton of pride in that.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: You know, being the captain last year was a huge honor.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Like that, being a captain my final two years at
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: their Dame huge honors that I don't don't take lightly
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: at all, Very proud that my teammates think of me
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: at that level, and uh, I would think to look
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: to me and a time.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: That in the first year and be a captain had
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: to be pretty cool because starting something they clearly looked
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: to you is, hey, we can we can depend on
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: this guy through some adversity which is going to happen
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: in your one.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, i'd I'd be lying up and said that wasn't
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: a goal of mine at some point in my career
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: to be a captain. So I was super proud that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: I was super proud of that. And you know, I
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: didn't play center in college. I played right tackle all
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: four years. But I think like we had a really
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: smart group, a really good group every time, every every
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: year I was playing there, so we all saw the
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: game pretty similar. I felt like I had a good
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: understanding of what we were looking at, especially as the
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: years went on. The transition to center, I was unsure
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: what it was going to be like, but it turned out,
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: you know, it turned out to work out really well
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: for me. I do think it fits like my personality
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: who I am and just my understanding of the game.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: You remind me of centers.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel yeah, And I think that also something
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: like I don't take lightly like that's right, That's who
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: I am, and so like getting to be myself and
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: it working out that way is is It's cool and
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: super special that and I'm glad that I can have
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: that role and make the make the calls, be the
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: communicator and bring people along as much as I can.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be pretty cool too. You know you left Tampa. Uh.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Not every body in the NFL sort of gets I
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: don't call it a second chance, but a chance to
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: come to a new franchise and be part of something
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: again and be part of a core, uh, which I
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: felt like you were last year. And not every player
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: gets that opportunity. How how much did you value that?
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: So important for me as a player and just as
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: a person. I feel like this was an unbelieve this
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: was the best opportunity I could have asked for. Right,
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: Just the situation worked out super well. And you spend
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: a lot of time like think about how those things
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: are going to go before they happen, and really worrying
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: about them.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: And you know a lot of guys where it doesn't
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: quite Yeah, good players where it just doesn't quite get
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: a fit. Yeah, it can be tough.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: It can be tough, and so I I don't discredit
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: the fact that, like I'm super lucky for timing purposes,
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: for relationships that I've been fortunate enough to build, and
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I'm probably like the way i can handle myself in
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: certain situations, and I'll just those things kind of all
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: culminated and being able to come to the Jags last
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: year and like you said, like get to get to
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: be a part of something that can be really special,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: and uh, that's that's I don't take like that is
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: something to be proud of and be excited about, because
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: there's there's a lot of upside that we can continue
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: to have here in Jacksonville.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Could you tell immediately that it had a chance to
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: click last year when you got here, and if so,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: what meaning it had been a while for this franchise
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: but everything sort of felt right.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't say immediately because there was so much
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: I didn't know. Sure, I didn't know any of the
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: people here. As we got through the off season program,
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: I remember being thinking like, this is a this is
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: a really talented team, just looking around like who who
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: we have? And then you know, we get to training
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: camp and still still none of us have played together.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: We got a bunch of new guys on the offensive
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: line just in general, and so yeah, but then you
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: get to training camp and like, okay, you're still starting
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: to figure it out. Then you get to the first
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: game and you're nervous for the first game. You're like,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: all right, we still haven't really played yet. You played
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: a little bit of the preseason. It was okay, we
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: got to come out after two.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Series or whatever.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: And that first game we went out there and we
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: were playing pretty well, I think, and then we had
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: that rain delay in the second quarter, and that was
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: like I think we're up like ten zero or something
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: at the time, but we've been playing well.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: It felt good about it, like.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you had the yeah, yeah.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Pregame we were.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: Kind of quiet, We're kind of feeling it out, like
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: I'll see how this goes. We had come in in
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: that rein de Lay. We were talking a lot. The
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: offense while I was talking a lot, how are we feeling?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: How we're doing?
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: And it was able to run a little bit.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: It's just like I was like, oh this is I
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: was all right, we're having fun. And I remember I
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: think I remember saying like, man, this would not have
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: been fun if we had this rain delay before the
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: game started. But right now we're in a good spot,
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: and like I do think from there just you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: that was a moment. I remember that was that was
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: fun and interesting, and you know, we just.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Kind of kept building.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Kept like day after they being what's the process, how
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: are we gonna how's it gonna take us to where
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: we want to go?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: How?
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: You know? The relationship with Trevor. How impressed were you
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: last year with him? His growth, his development, consistency. I mean,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of ways you go talking about Trevor,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: but I guess what pressed you most.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think one, it's been really fun to get
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: to know him as a as just as a friend,
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: and we've gotten we get along super well. It's been
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: really it's been a great relationship to be able to build.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: It was a lot of fun watching him just grow.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Like you said, the biggest thing I thought was how
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: much you know they put on Trevor's plate. The differences
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: in the offense were running versus the offense he ran
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: from what I understand, what he's told me. What you
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: know some of the coaches have says it's just very different.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: It's a lot more on the quarterback.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I knew.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: I learned it when we were in Tampa with Baker
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: talking to him about it, like how much he has
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: to do, Like I still probably can't fully comprehend everything
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: that he has to do, but I totally understand, Like
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: there is a lot, and there's a lot of checks,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of emotions, there's a lot of there's
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: a lot, and so I know how much time and
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: effort he put in and the even like before we
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: all came together, before we all got together, like it's
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I know he was here working on stuff, figuring it out,
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: like and it was just throughout the course of the
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: season from last April to January, I mean, was really
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: constant growth. It felt like just getting better, getting more
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: comfortable being himself, Like once you can kind of once
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: you feel comfortable in it, not to say like you're complacent,
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: but it's like, Okay, now I can go play a
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: little bit. I don't have to be you can be.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: You can take some of the robotics out of it,
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: and that goes for that goes for all.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: The all that with some running and some just I
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: would say freelancing, but.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just playing football. I mean, he's he's a great player,
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: and he's who he is. He's here for a reason,
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: so like you want him to be, to be him,
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: that's that's what we need. That's that's the best version
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: of him you're going to get, just himself. And so
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: watching that kind of over overtake it early in the
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: year and just continue to grow was super fun and
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: just like really proud of him, like glad to play,
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Glad to be able to play with them and all
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: the other guys here. It's just it's a group that
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: isn't going to quit or we're just gonna continue to
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: try to find the next thing that we can that
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: we can uh improve at.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Because quarterbacks all about being yourself. Like Baker and Trevor
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: both successful quarterbacks, pretty different guys. So yeah, it's really
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: just about I mean, and I guess that's leading the
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: question to Trevor. Is he as consistent and as maybe
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: not positive but as consistent in personality and approach as
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: it seems like he is from the outside.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, say, like I think with a good measure
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: of someone's like how how are you every day?
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: We always had that in collegure. You want to be
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the same guy every day.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: You want to be ups and downs, because when you're
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: the same guy, like you know what you're getting, I
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: know what I can count on you. And he's he's
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: It's hard, and it's also probably the most important because
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: he's just you know, everyone we need them every day.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: And so he's and you know, he's been dealing with
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: that for a long time high school probably so a
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: lot of these guys have, and so he's he handles
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: it extremely well inside outside the building, like being the
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: franchise quarterback. Well, those things that come with that are great,
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: but getting the no Trevor Trevor has been super fun
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: and we get along really well. I'm grateful to have
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: him as a friend and teammate.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: You mentioned switching positions, Yeah, in your career, having done that,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: how impressed were you with being land in last year?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable? Yeah, it was insane.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: People grasp how it's easy for us to say it
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: and write it and talk about it, but you've done it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: No, and and and right to left is is really
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: really difficult. It might not like oh, tritackle and left
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: tackle like I mean, I've seen it. You've seen it
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: done it some pretty like.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Trying to write with different hands.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: It really is like I got like playing with Tristan
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and Tampa, like he would all pro right tackle, all
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Pro left tackle, Like that's ridiculous.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: And what Cole did last year playing all four possessions
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: at the level we did, it's like, it's that's at
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: that same level, Like, wow, that's insane. He could. He could,
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: He absolutely can. He doesn't like I don't think he
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: loves to. We kind of joke about whatever, like hey,
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: make sure you get in a few just in case,
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: in case, but no, he's what he did, like and
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: I don't know how to describe it, but it's very
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: impressive that to hit all those positions, play at.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: That level and then you know, just do it.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah well yeah, I mean and you see it, you
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: get and when you're that, you get and you get
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: rewarded for it. And he earned every bit of that
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: the hard way over the course of his not just
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: last year, but his entire career. Talked to him, got
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: to know him, and from his time was constant like
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: he's just he's a guy that's been earning it, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: I just have a ton of a ton of respect
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: for Cole and how he does things.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know you well enough to know the answer
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: to this, but this seems like a good time in
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: your career, a good place meaning you're a veteran, you
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: know how the league works, you have the experience on
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: the field, uh, and still physically playing at a high level.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, sort of in your prime. Is this a
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: good time to be Robert Hainsey, I guess is that?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I think?
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I think if you ask that question anyone, the answer
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: should be yes. You always want to make it.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: You always want to make it a good time to
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: be yourself. But I think, thank you, and it's it
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: has been fun. I mean I've had I've had ups
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: and downs like everyone.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: All that sort of coming into the equation.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah all, and you know it's fun, like all the
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: negative things, all the challenges like help you kind of
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: help you get here, and we love, we love Jacksonville.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: I've really enjoyed being here. I really enjoyed the group
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: of people I get to come to work with every day.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: And that means a lot, because when you get to
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: come to the building and it's it's fun and you
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: get to enjoy it and you look forward to seeing
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: the guys that that makes it a.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Whole lot easier.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: You got guys who are bought into the things that
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: you we want to do, and so yeah, it's been
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: We've been super grateful to be here for the opportunity
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: and just excited to do whatever we can't, like, do
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: whatever I can to take the team to the next level,
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: to help the guys around me to be, to be
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: whatever I'm needed to be.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Final thing. We call it the O Zone five. Five
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: quick questions supposed to be fun. You decide if it
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: is okay, Robert Hansey, what was your last binge? Watch?
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Land Man?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, it was good?
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Right, it was really good.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: We don't have a pair amount yet, but I'm oko. Yeah,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: it's my left for.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: A long weekend. I was like, I need something to watch.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: I heard I'd heard about it and I crushed it.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: It was it was really good.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Solid.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: On the way in in the morning podcast.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Or music mostly podcasts.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: In the last podcast this morning, I'm.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: I'm listening there's a podcast called Acchoired that's these guys,
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: these two guys, they do deep dives into companies and
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: the history behind them. The one I'm listening to now
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: is about the company Vanguard like Vanguard five hundred index fun.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: So I like it. I think it's.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Interesting, it's fun stuff to learn about. It's probably not
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: everyone's favorite, but I like that stuff.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: No doubt. Sport other than football that you were at.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: That was good at.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: My next best four was probably basketball. I didn't play
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: it long enough. I played up until high school. I
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: probably could have, which I would have played more, but.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Put a lot in the football. Now it's just yeah,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I got basketball legs, that's for sure. Now it's golf. Now,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be good at golf, trying and I'm improving.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: I do think recently I've been improving, and I'm proud
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: of that. I keep working at it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: The last and this is the entire career. Last touchdown
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: you scored or the closest you ever came.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: I scored some touchdowns growing up in high school. I
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: caught I got like a tackle screen for like a
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: two point conversion in my junior senior year.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Was the game didn't matter Now.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: It was a gift. Yeah.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: And then but like growing up, I played like full
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: back and tight end the left so like up until
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: like through like seventh grade, like I got to like
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: a couple couple in my belt.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Last time you the ball than when you were snapping
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: it in a game.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I've covered a few fumbles. Did I get any? I
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: don't think I had any last year.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Two there's would have been three years, like twenty twenty three,
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: I had like one or two fumble recovery.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: It's not necessarily what you want because you're not making.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Up mistakes, but better me than them.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: The person or people that you wouldn't be here without.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm, long list, I think, uh, starting with my parents,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: my sister, like my family, my fiance I'm getting married
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: in a couple of weeks. And Mariel, she's been unbelievable
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: and she's thank you. So we we've known each other
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: whole time and we met her a senior of college,
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: so my whole time here or in the NFL, like
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: she's been with me, and she's a rock for that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: And then I think it's a lot of great coaches.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I've had.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: My strength coach in college name is Matt Baylessy's unbelievable,
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: my offensive line coach, and college Harry Hoaston. Those are
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: two guys. A Q Shipley who I trained with and
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: met my first year. AQ has done more for me
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: than as much for me as any of these other people,
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: especially when it comes to football, and so all those
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: people that you know, I'm very fortunately. Like I talked
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: about what relationships mean, I'm fortunate to have a lot
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: of great ones and a lot with that mean a
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: lot to me. People who care about me and want
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: the best for me got and that's that's that's what
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: really matters.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: That's what it's all about.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: And I think when you get to leave this game,
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: that'll be the most important thing you take from it.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Robert, I knew this would be great and it was.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Thank you for joining the ozone podcast. I appreciate time.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Thank you all right. That was Robert Hainsey on the
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: ozone Podcast interview. I guess we'll call it. I haven't
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: spent a whole lot of time with Robert h until
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: we did that interview, and I said to him during
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: the interview, kay, I said, you really remind me of
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: a center.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: He's enjoyable to talk to.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: And I said that as a compliment, because the center
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: is because they naturally take a leadership role in there.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Even if they're not the old man in the room,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: they always sort of act like the old man in
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: the room. They have that energy, and he certainly has
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: that guy who has the perspective to be a leader.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: They're also kind of a bridge person, right Like obviously
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: they're close with the quarterback, they're close with their offensive line,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: they're in the middle of everybody and the running backs
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: as well, So they kind of feel like.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: They bridge some of the position groups together.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: And I think he's a perfect example of that and
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: kind of having be a man that wears many hats,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: and he's done a great job in the limited time
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: he's been here so far.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's a heck of a story because Tampa
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: he was starting, they drafted somebody to take his place.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: He had to sort of work through that and the
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: perseverance to get a quote second chance in the league
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: to be part of, you know, an ascending team doesn't
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: always happen, and I think he's really enjoying that part
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: of his career.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: So also got a unique relationship with Liam obviously working
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: with him in Tampa and being a priority to bring
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: over here to help restart or start his career as
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: a head coach. That was important to Liam. So it's
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: been interesting and He's a great interview, so no doubt,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: hopefully you all enjoyed it. Let's do some of our
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: ozone questions to close things out. First of all, we're
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: gonna do Mark from Archer, says John am. I in
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: the minority of not worrying about Ventrel Miller taking over
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: for Devin Lloyd. I think that system is going to
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: allow any average linebacker to be successful.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know that it's going to average
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: linebackers to be successul.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I think we're calling either of them average necessarily, but
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: he's saying the system is built for success for that position.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think more than anything, Devin had an
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: incredible year interceptions last year. I don't know that Ventreill
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: will match what the seven turnovers Devon created, but I
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: do think Vnreil, the question was is he doing? Who's
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: not worried? Well, and nobody in the building's worried.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: So they haven't made a move to even sure that
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: up in any way. They're very much giving him the
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: opportunity to earn that starting spot.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: So I think there are ways that they believe that
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: the defense can be better with Vintreil. They certainly did
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: not want Evan the league. The coaches wanted him back,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: They would have loved to have him back. It doesn't
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: always work for him to be back, but ventral Melo
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: was a co starter going into last year. There's no
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: reason that there will be a big drop off, and
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think the team thinks.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: They will be neither do I all right yetdi Daddy
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: from somewhere yet nowhere. I'm really interested in how well
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: the offensive line will perform this year. Which games should
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: be the toughest for the offensive line?
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, everybody's interested in how the offensive line informed.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to be good this year. I
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: think why Milam could push. I think they're going to
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: be just as deep as they were last year, if
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: if not deeper. Frankly, the obvious one to me, and
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: my answer when I answered this in print, was the
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Houston Texans are always going to be the challenge. And
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with the Jaguars offensive line.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: It's the fact that they may be the best defensive
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: line in the league.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: So you get them twice a year or two the two.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Matchups against Houston. Most teams answering this question honestly will say, yeah,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: we got a block Houston. I mean, they're a tough matchup.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia's a tough matchup. There are others, but for this franchise,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: block in Houston's a big deal because that's their superpower.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Guess what the Houston's saying right now, We got to
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: stop that team.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: So there's different things going on, but the Houston's defensive
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: lines of strength, all right.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Steve from Jacksonville wants to know will adding more tight
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: ends mean the run game is going to be the
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: main focus?
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a focus. But look, adding the
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: tight ends doesn't necessarily make passing or running the key.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: It gives them different personnel packages they can run out
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: of in different looks. They want to run the ball better,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: and I think they will run the ball better. It's
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: sort of involved with two tight ends. But whether or
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: not they've gone out and gotten tight ends they wanted
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: to run better. I think it will help them out
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: of certain looks. I think they'll be a better running team.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: But more than anything, the two tight ends are about
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: trying to get those packages, and you're trying to get
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: different wrinkles in in a personnel scheme to match up
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: against the three safety looks all right, or get.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: To know some question for you today.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I always like to Spresstahn with these Talking to Robert
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Hainsey the offensive line, it's it's a unique position group
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: in the personality department. And I say that because I
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: feel like a lot of them are quiet, but some
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: of the smartest people on the team. Just based on
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: generalities and our experience. I know you've talked to a
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: lot of players over your illustrious career. Who's the most
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: intelligent player that you've interviewed or worked with?
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Was it alignment ament or was it? Was it alignment?
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Was it alignment? And there's so many I joke about
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Baselli all the time. So he's really smart.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's our boss now as well? No, that as well.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just kidding.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Tony's Tony's obviously a very smart guy.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Well, and I didn't realize it when I covered him necessarily,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: but because I was young and I hadn't talked to
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of NFL players. Uh So Kalais was
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: really really smart. Pause was really really smart. Just guys
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: i've covered here, you know, Saturday in Indie was smart.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Most centers. I don't know if they're smarter than the
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: rest of the guys, but they are able to use
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: that intelligence and share that intelligence more.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: So.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I put you know, I can't remember. It's hard
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: to play in this league if you're not smart, and
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: that's probably one of the most overlooked aspects of being
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: a great player. Uh an obvious choice to me as
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning was high and smart as a quarterback. Most
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks are, but most coaches will tell you, Look, if
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: you're slow on the uptake, it's hard to pick up
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: what they're doing. And uh so it's pretty rare to
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: come across the guy where you walk at where you
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: walk away, you going that guys just not that bright up.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: So, I mean it's hard to keep up nowadays.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can be physically great, but if you
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: can't fall along with the schemes, things are so much
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: more complicated and yeah, twenty twenty six that you have
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: to be smart.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, look, Marvin Harrison and Indy was
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: high end smart, and the high end players like the
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: really the Hall of Fame guys, Fred was smart, Mojo was.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to be great and elite because,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: as you know, being around these guys so much more
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: goes into getting their career. We talked about Parker earlier
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: in the show. Party was really smart to be able
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: to figure out how to get from where he was
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: to where he is. You just can't do it unless
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: your mind is working at a high level in terms
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: of how you approach life, how you approach everything. So
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: good question, but I would say it's rare to come
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: across the guy's not pretty smart.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: I was on the smartest of them all.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not very smart because I temporarily forgot that I
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: have to close the show. Look, thank you Kai for
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: doing this, thank you to Robert Hainsey, thank you to
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Brent Reaver for producing it. Thank you to Dave the
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: kandas our our boss for allowing us face time. And
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: that's the Ozeran podcast for this week. Thank you very much.