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Episode #61: WHY the Pharma Solution was Just Added to the CDC Schedule for Kids · Beyond Labels Premium

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SPEAKER_01: It's estimated that this means that just by adding the COVID vaccine 19 uh COVID-19 vaccines to the schedule, it's at least 18 more shots, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Because they're talking about from six months through age 18.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and then that doesn't even count the boosters.
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SPEAKER_01: So that means overnight, the childhood vaccine schedule is gonna go from roughly 54 injections, which is a total of 72 antigens, because some shots are combined, like the MMR.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's gonna go from 54 injections, 72 antigens, to 72 injections, roughly 90 antigens.
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SPEAKER_01: Even if you just start with the fact that we give the kids 54 injections, right?
0:40
SPEAKER_01: I mean, come on.
0:41
SPEAKER_01: And then we now we're both now we're boosting it to at least a minimum of 72.
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SPEAKER_00: Hi, everybody.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to another podcast from Beyond Labels with yours truly, Joel Salatin, and our favorite researcher, Dr.
0:55
SPEAKER_00: Cena McCullough.
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SPEAKER_00: Cena has uh dug into this uh decision this week from the city from the Centers for Disease Control on mandating vaccines as part, well, adding adding the the um coronavirus vaccine, alleged vaccine, may I say, uh, to the litany of regular vaccines that are required or encouraged for all children.
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SPEAKER_00: In other words, it just adds to the whole uh litany of them.
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SPEAKER_00: And uh, she's got some great information for us, and I'm gonna turn it over to her and uh and ask questions as we go along.
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SPEAKER_00: But um, but Cena, what's the what's the deal here?
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SPEAKER_00: Why did they make the decision and what are the ramifications of it?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: So, Joel, I've been digging into this this week, and I want to talk about what the decision was, the evidence that they had in front of them, and then talk about why I think they made this decision.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, so kind of in three parts.
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SPEAKER_01: So, just in case people haven't um read about it yet, um, and and by the way, today is um October 26th.
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SPEAKER_01: So this is this episode is coming out next week.
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SPEAKER_01: And so if new data comes out, we will update you as we get it.
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SPEAKER_01: We're talking about what we know at this point and pontificating upon that.
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SPEAKER_01: So the CDC has an advisory committee, it's a committee on immunization practices, and they voted unanimously this week to add the COVID vaccine COVID-19 vaccine to the list of routine vaccines for kids.
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SPEAKER_01: This is known as the vaccine schedule.
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SPEAKER_01: This will be effective in 2023.
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SPEAKER_01: What it means is that according to this advisory committee, all children six months and older should get the COVID vaccine plus the boosters when eligible.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's estimated that this means that just by adding the COVID vaccine 19, uh COVID-19 vaccines to the schedule, it's at least 18 more shots, right?
3:02
SPEAKER_01: Because they're talking about from six months through age 18.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and then that doesn't even count the boosters.
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SPEAKER_01: So that means overnight the childhood vaccine schedule is gonna go from roughly 54 injections, which is a total of 72 antigens, because some shots are combined, like the MMR.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's gonna go from 54 injections, 72 antigens, to 72 injections, roughly 90 antigens.
3:29
SPEAKER_01: All right.
3:30
SPEAKER_01: So even if you just start with the fact that we give the kids 54 injections, right?
3:35
SPEAKER_01: I mean, come on.
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SPEAKER_01: And then we now we're both now we're boosting it to at least a minimum of 72.
3:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, and again, this might be higher based on booster recommendations.
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SPEAKER_01: So now what happened was this advisory committee, it's a CDC advisory committee.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, it their decision goes to the CDC, and the CDC decides if they do want to adopt the advice from its own advisory committee.
3:58
SPEAKER_00: So, you know just just just to make sure, Sina, that that everybody understands here, you have not been asked to be on that advisory committee.
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SPEAKER_01: No, I wish I could be, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Let me you know, this this is like this is like uh uh when the you know when the public schools uh make a decision, they don't ask they don't ask for uh uh a couple of homeschoolers to join them on an advisory committee.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, it's it it's pretty it's pretty in-house.
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SPEAKER_00: So uh I think it's pretty safe to say that this was this was fairly much um um a fraternity uh who had drunk the Kool-Aid.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh and so it's kind of a rubber stamp.
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SPEAKER_00: But it is a rubber stamp.
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SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
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SPEAKER_01: It is rubber stamp.
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SPEAKER_01: No, I'm glad you brought that up because the committee consists of 15 people and they include vaccine industry insiders, both from companies and from government agencies.
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SPEAKER_01: So it was no surprise that this committee just rubber stamped it.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, this I do want to make it clear the CDC said that it this does not mean the vaccine is mandated.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
5:06
SPEAKER_01: The CDC came out in a clear statement saying the vaccine schedule simply helps guide doctors and guide states in determining when to administer vaccines.
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SPEAKER_01: The CDC is saying the state and the local jurisdictions make their own rules about which vaccines are required for school attendance, you know, daycares and the like.
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SPEAKER_01: But when the reality is, when the CDC makes these vaccine schedules, these states and localities typically comply with them.
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SPEAKER_01: These become the required vaccinations for entry into schools and whatnot.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, but regardless, all 15 members did approve this to be added to the regular schedule in spite of the mounting evidence against the COVID vaccine, particularly in children.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, so what I wanted to first touch on is let's go over briefly some of the evidence that this committee had and available to them, and they still decided to approve the vaccine, because then we're gonna get into why.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, all right.
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SPEAKER_00: Cena, right before you do that though, I think I think to pause this at the at the at the advisory level, uh, that where it's not a mandate, um, to realize that there is a whole echelon.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh, for example, um insurance companies, you know, uh uh I I don't think people realize how much insurance companies have sway in.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I see it in, you know, uh if we sell raw milk, uh insurance companies says, well, we won't insure you, even if your house burns down if you sell raw milk, that sort of thing.
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SPEAKER_00: And and and we see this, uh, I think here too, the liability, the the the the litig, the litigation um in our culture um forces people to be safe, not sorry.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: So if you're in the public sector, uh the easy thing to do is just say, we're gonna mandate that your kid gets these vaccines before they come to our school uh so that so that our insurance underwriter won't cancel our insurance because we're doing a high-risk policy.
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SPEAKER_00: And and so so there's there's a whole litany of related things here that that once the CDC says this, it it it funnels, it funnels the thinking into that into that um you know that decision.
7:41
SPEAKER_01: So that's absolutely correct.
7:43
SPEAKER_01: And we see this in other bureaucratic agencies as well.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: We see this in the FDA, where they will have clearly on their internal documents like this is um non-binding, uh, you know, voluntary information, right?
7:58
SPEAKER_01: They'll say that.
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SPEAKER_01: This is, you know, you don't have to, it's not a mandate, it's voluntary, it's non-binding.
8:04
SPEAKER_01: They said that with grass, generally recognized as safe, right?
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SPEAKER_01: You don't have to report it, but people but the companies comply, and it's like you're saying it's they're they're covering their own behinds, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Right say, I did go through and check the boxes, and that also covers the governmental agency because they can say, Well, we didn't actually require it, they chose to do it.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, they they they they get it both ways.
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SPEAKER_00: They do, they do, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And so this is very similar, very similar.
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SPEAKER_01: And as you're saying, you see some red states pushing back on it.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, the governor of Florida has said no, we're not gonna add it to our schedule and stuff.
8:40
SPEAKER_01: And we'll get into this in a little bit, but there is funding tied to these programs, you know, federal funding handed out to the states.
8:47
SPEAKER_01: So they're gonna get you, they're gonna get you one way or the other, right?
8:50
SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, so before we get into that more, let's just touch on a little bit of evidence that they had um in front of them, this committee had, um, because I want you to understand the available data in order to understand their motive for um um putting it on the schedule.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So the first thing to recognize is that the COVID shots that are available in the United States, given to our kids, are still only available under emergency use authorization, EUA, which means that they haven't gone through the required process to evaluate the safety and efficacy of the shots.
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SPEAKER_01: It hasn't been completed.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Several studies in several states and countries have come out and said the risk for COVID in children is minimal.
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SPEAKER_01: According to the CDC itself, their own data, they say that 86% of children in America already have COVID antibodies from earlier infections.
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SPEAKER_01: That means nine out of 10 children between the ages of six months and you know, roughly 17 years already have antibodies as of August of this year.
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SPEAKER_01: So 86% of them already have some kind of natural immunity.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: And and I think I think it's it's also uh unquestioned that the natural antibodies are stronger than the than the vaccine.
10:13
SPEAKER_00: In other words, yeah, the natural antibodies are are the strongest immunity.
10:18
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: And actually, what they're showing is that the vaccine provides minimal efficacy in preventing COVID infections in children.
10:30
SPEAKER_01: The manufacturers of the vaccine are now admitting this fact.
10:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, it so here's a couple facts on that, just to drive this point home.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
10:39
SPEAKER_01: The FDA claimed it would only require, uh sorry, that it would require a 50% efficacy in order to authorize a COVID vaccine.
10:49
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
10:50
SPEAKER_01: So FDA claimed the efficacy had to be 50%.
10:54
SPEAKER_01: The agency has now ignored its own threshold because it gave the green light to Moderna shot, and their efficacy was only 37% in two to five year olds.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: In the Pfizer trials, it got even worse.
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SPEAKER_01: Vaccinated toddlers with the, you know, the five the Pfizer shot, they were actually more likely to get severely ill with COVID than the toddlers who received a placebo.
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SPEAKER_01: So they were worse off.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, this one is also a little shocking.
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SPEAKER_01: Any modest protection that the shots do give in this pediatric population not only wanes quickly, but the vaccine effectiveness turns negative according to some recent studies.
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SPEAKER_01: For example, one study in the Journal of American Medical Association, it was published on October 2nd.
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SPEAKER_01: It reported negative vaccine effectiveness for symptomatic COVID infections after about four months after the post second dose in the kids.
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SPEAKER_01: This was kids age 12 to 15.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: After the second dose, the effectiveness turned negative, which means children who got the vaccine became more likely to get infected with COVID compared with unvaccinated children.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, um, and we'll go into the side effects in just a minute, but I want to also bring up that many countries around the world have actually stopped recommending the COVID vaccine 19 for children.
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SPEAKER_01: Here's just a couple of examples.
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SPEAKER_01: Just in September, the UK ended COVID shots, um shot recommendations for children under 11.
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SPEAKER_01: Children ages five and older who are at risk will still be offered the vaccination, but that's just the at-risk population.
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SPEAKER_01: All other children under 11, they don't want to give the shots to them anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's in the UK.
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SPEAKER_01: In Norway, they don't approve the vaccine for children under five unless they have, quote, serious underlying conditions.
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SPEAKER_01: For children age five to 12, they have changed the language instead of should be vaccinated if they and their guardian wishes, they've changed it to may be vaccinated, right?
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SPEAKER_01: So they're backing off the recommendation.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, Finland has come out and said children under the age of five are not being vaccinated against COVID at all.
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SPEAKER_01: And this is a quote: children under the age of five are not being vaccinated against COVID at all.
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SPEAKER_01: Recommending vaccination for age 5 to 11 that are seriously, like severely immunodeficient, um, is the only time that they're recommending that.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: Sweden, Sweden stopped recommending COVID shots for children under 18.
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SPEAKER_01: Denmark has actually prohibited children under 18 to get the vaccine unless they are at a high risk.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and they go on to say um the Denmark government went on to say children at adolescents rarely become severely ill, ill from COVID.
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SPEAKER_01: From July 1st, 2022, it was no longer possible, no longer possible for children at adolescents age under 18 to get the first injection.
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SPEAKER_01: From September 1st, 2022, it was no longer possible for them to get the second injection.
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SPEAKER_01: So they're actually not allowing them to get these injections.
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SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, our government here is saying, oh yeah, even as young as six months, they should get it.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, the fatality rate amongst children in America, age zero to 19, at this point, this is the fatality rate from COVID infection itself.
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SPEAKER_01: It was three per 1 million case cases.
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SPEAKER_01: So three deaths per 1 million cases.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: And 100% of those deaths, according to a recent study, 100% of those deaths in children were because the child had a pre-existing condition.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: Now that's horrible.
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SPEAKER_01: We don't want to lose any child.
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SPEAKER_01: And if it's your child, this statistic is going to be a big deal, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Because this is your child.
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SPEAKER_01: My heart goes out to all these parents who have lost their children.
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SPEAKER_01: My point is we're going to lay it out for how for you here.
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SPEAKER_01: The COVID vaccine at this point seems to be doing more harm than good, right?
15:17
SPEAKER_01: And that's how you weigh whether or not you're going to take a vaccine, whether or not you can take a prescription medication.
15:22
SPEAKER_01: It's the benefit to harm ratio, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And um organizations that support um, you know, pediatrics, for instance, like all these pediatricians in hospitals or whatnot, they're coming out and they're saying this vaccine is more harmful to our children than it is good.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you look at, for instance, VARS, the vaccine adverse events reporting system, they have registered 162 deaths in children, 533 permanent disabilities, and over 5,000 trips to the emergency room due to adverse reactions from the COVID vaccine.
15:58
SPEAKER_01: And again, the incidence of adverse reactions is severely underreported in the VAR system.
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SPEAKER_01: It's estimated to be as low as maybe 1% reported, up to as high as maybe 10% reported.
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SPEAKER_01: And I want to point out 162 deaths in children have already been reported from the vaccine.
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SPEAKER_01: And not that many children have actually been vaccinated in America.
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SPEAKER_01: According to the CDC, children aged six months to four years, only 9% of children have been vaccinated with at least one dose.
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SPEAKER_01: That's 1.6 million children vaccinated versus almost 16 million not vaccinated.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: And we already have these deaths mounts piling up.
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SPEAKER_01: We already know that multiple studies are showing a doubling of myocarditis in boys who are vaccinated.
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SPEAKER_01: They're also showing in these studies that that injury to the myocardium of the heart might actually be permanent.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: We know that there's menstrual issues that are happening.
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SPEAKER_01: The NIH itself, that government agency, did a study on menstrual issues and confirmed that this is happening, even in children.
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SPEAKER_01: We also know that stillbirths have dramatically risen after the COVID vaccine.
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SPEAKER_01: There was a report recently in the Epoch Times where it's a leaked email from a hospital reporting increase in stillbirths.
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SPEAKER_01: They're suspecting the vaccine.
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SPEAKER_01: You can actually read the email yourself.
17:49
SPEAKER_01: It's a little disturbing.
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SPEAKER_01: They're saying that usually for stillbirths, there's only like a couple a month.
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SPEAKER_01: In August, there were 22.
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SPEAKER_01: It tied the record number of stillbirths in July.
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SPEAKER_01: So they're having these record number of stillborn babies.
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SPEAKER_01: And in this email, they're actually talking about they're advising the nurses on how to transport and get rid of the bodies.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's a it's a little bit disturbing, but that's how prevalent it's becoming.
18:25
SPEAKER_01: Now they have these protocols for how to handle this.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, one, oh, Joel, do you want to jump in before I go on?
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SPEAKER_00: No, I mean, it just it's uh it's also it's it's almost mind-boggling.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, it literally is.
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SPEAKER_00: It literally is is mind-boggling.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh and and it it begs the question too of this new um, I mean, this has been even in the mainstream mainstream media, this um this child viral kind of uh pneumo uh respiratory thing that's spreading across the nation.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: Um is there any is there any link there to your knowledge?
19:02
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I believe that there is, okay, on multiple fronts.
19:06
SPEAKER_01: And um, so for people who who um let me just catch you up on that, in case you haven't had heard that.
19:13
SPEAKER_01: We are having like a record number of cases.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, here where I am in Georgia, we're having um many more flu cases and respiratory illnesses, um, other respiratory illnesses than than they've had in the past, uh, which is a little surprising since it's only October at this point.
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SPEAKER_01: And um part of this, I believe, is because um, and others can can um have confirmed this, part of it is because when you're isolated for so long, right, the immune system becomes weaker.
19:48
SPEAKER_01: And so now we're starting to mix, and people more and more people have taken off the mask.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: Because even when so when you're isolating in the home, that's one level of isolation.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: Then you go out of your house and you still have the mask on, um, and that's still a barrier of trans of transferring things like microRNAs and things like that to each other.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: So you're still having um like a almost like a suppressed immune system because you're not priming your immune system.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
20:16
SPEAKER_01: So then when the masks come off and we're all getting together in these, you know, in close quarters and the buildings and whatnot, touching things each other's touching, then your immune system now has to adapt.
20:26
SPEAKER_01: It's like it's like cramming for finals, right?
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SPEAKER_01: So we can pass these finals, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and and it it needs time to be able to rebuild itself.
20:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, my family and I are going through that ever since we moved to Georgia.
20:41
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're sick all the time.
20:43
SPEAKER_01: And we're healthy people.
20:44
SPEAKER_01: We are I mean, we're chronically healthy people.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: We are sick because where we lived in Virginia, it was isolated, shut down for a long period of time, and then masks were worn all like by a lot of people.
20:57
SPEAKER_01: People are still wearing masks there, all right.
20:59
SPEAKER_01: So, so we have to now rebuild our immune system.
21:03
SPEAKER_01: So that's part of it.
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SPEAKER_01: But in terms of this conversation we're having now, another part is the damage that's caused to the immune system by the spike protein.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, this is the spike protein that um the the vaccines, uh so this is the kind of like my watered-down version, okay, for sake of time.
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SPEAKER_01: The vaccine, the mRNA vaccine is gonna cause the body.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, the purpose of it is to cause the body to produce the spike protein so that your body could then identify it as an invader, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And build up immunity um to it.
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SPEAKER_01: So, what happens though, uh, in what we're finding, what's happening in some people is the spike protein persists and it becomes systemic.
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SPEAKER_01: So it doesn't just stay like in the arm like it was supposed to.
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SPEAKER_01: If you got the injection in your arm, it's becoming systemic in some people.
21:52
SPEAKER_00: This is also it might you're saying it migrates, it might it migrates throughout your body, it migrates throughout the body, and then that means it can affect.
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SPEAKER_01: Every any um organ or cell in the body that it comes in contact with.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: And just as an aside, I'm going to go through some of the things that spike protein can do, which is also going to answer your question.
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SPEAKER_01: And this again is information that this committee had.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: But keep in the back of your mind, if you know somebody who's suffering from long COVID, right?
22:22
SPEAKER_01: So even if they didn't get vaccinated, but they're suffering from long COVID after they had a COVID infection.
22:28
SPEAKER_01: This, what I'm about to go through right now, is also applicable for somebody, most likely, who has had long COVID.
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SPEAKER_01: Because what it means usually is that the spike protein is still in the body.
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SPEAKER_01: You're not able to detoxify it.
22:40
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So here's just um a brief list of things that this spike protein can do.
22:47
SPEAKER_01: And again, I'm going to mention this in terms of the spike protein being produced from the vaccine.
22:53
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: The overarching category is that the spike protein leads to immune dysregulation.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: This predisposes you for disease, both susceptibility to acute disease and susceptibility to a chronic disease, like an autoimmune disease, cancers, things like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, one um one way it does this is by it causes inflammation.
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SPEAKER_01: As I said, it can circulate through the body, um, or has been shown to circulate through the body in some people.
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SPEAKER_01: It can bind to ACE2 and CD147 receptors in blood vessels and in organs, and that initiates an inflammatory response.
23:29
SPEAKER_01: And we know that in every disease progression, there is an inflammatory response.
23:35
SPEAKER_01: And it's this cytokine, um, it's the cytokine storm that is really the damaging part of this vaccine, or one of the most damaging parts of the vaccine and of COVID.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's one mechanism by which it can cause disease.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, it also, the spike protein decreases the action of your T cells, this is your cellular immunity, and your natural killer cells.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: These cells are responsible for killing both infected cells, like sick cells and cancer cells.
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SPEAKER_01: And so in this way, the spike protein it decreases your body's ability to kill cells that have been infected, like by the spike protein, and cells that are sick and dying.
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SPEAKER_01: So it can predispose you to autoimmune disease and to developing cancer.
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SPEAKER_01: It damages DNA, decreases ability to repair DNA.
24:27
SPEAKER_01: Um, it also, this is very, very important.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, to me, this was one of the most alarming components that we've learned about the spike protein.
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SPEAKER_01: It can inhibit um autophagy, or basically, it inhibits your body's ability to kill the cells, to kill cells that are damaged and sick.
24:49
SPEAKER_01: All right.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: So that means usually when your body's sick or like um a cell got damaged by something like a glyphosate or a heavy metal, some kind of toxin, or you have some kind of infection and it's growing in the cell, the body will kill that cell, break it down, and it will get rid of whatever the toxin is.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a detoxification system.
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SPEAKER_01: So cell death in this term is how your body detoxifies from these potential toxins that can make you sick.
25:21
SPEAKER_01: So it stops it from being able to do that, which means that the spike protein can then stay in your cells and persist there, causing damage.
25:30
SPEAKER_01: This is part of the long COVID.
25:32
SPEAKER_01: It also means that you can't, like again, again, like I said, you can't heal from a sickness.
25:37
SPEAKER_01: You can't detoxify your body.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: So if you have a child, for instance, that I mentioned the children who passed away from COVID infections, they had um predisposing conditions, pre-existing conditions.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: Let's say you're on the autoimmune continuum, you have some kind of autoimmune disease.
25:55
SPEAKER_01: Well, now you have this spike protein that's prohibiting your body from actually recycling the sick or the dead cells.
26:06
SPEAKER_01: All right.
26:06
SPEAKER_01: So that's how it's just fuel, that's one way that it's just fueling the disease in their body.
26:12
SPEAKER_01: So it so it's interesting because the even the governments around the world who are saying don't give kids the vaccine unless they're severely like compromised, you know, like immunocompromised.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: They have a pre-existing condition.
26:25
SPEAKER_01: Well, we might find out later that that might be the wrong advice, right?
26:30
SPEAKER_00: It might actually be those those might be the ones um uh that that should least take it.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
26:38
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: And but we have this mindset that okay, when they're immunocompromised, we need to protect them, you know, like give them this medication, but but it's probably not the case.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: Um, the other, the last one I'm gonna touch on, and then we'll talk about why it's molecular mimicry.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: So the spike protein, there's a part of it that has high level, we think, according to recent studies, of molecular mimicry.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: That means part of that protein looks very similar to proteins in your body.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: So when the immune system attacks the spike protein, right, to try to build antibodies to it, to help your body to identify that foreign invader and get rid of it, it can also um attack proteins in your own body.
27:25
SPEAKER_01: So it can also attack your own organs, your own tissues.
27:29
SPEAKER_01: And studies have actually now shown that the antibodies that are made against the spike protein by your own body can, in fact, attack your own tissues.
27:38
SPEAKER_01: This is, um, according to modern medicine, autoimmunity.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: So this is one mechanism upon how it can actually um initiate an autoimmune disease and certainly make it worse if you already have one.
27:51
SPEAKER_01: And most people do.
27:52
SPEAKER_01: Most people are already on the autoimmune continuum.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: You know.
27:56
SPEAKER_01: So is that not devastating news?
27:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is devastating news.
28:01
SPEAKER_00: So so we've we've got about five minutes left, Cena.
28:04
SPEAKER_00: Um so so let's let's um let's let's go through the ramifications of this.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's um okay you know, it it it it remind it reminds me.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: I love America.
28:19
SPEAKER_00: I love the U.S.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad I live here.
28:21
SPEAKER_00: But I'll tell you what, um, how many times do we get embarrassed by this kind this kind of stuff?
28:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh I mean, like in my world, you know, the U.S.
28:31
SPEAKER_00: is the only country in the world that uh that certifies organic um hydroponic hydroponic produce.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: Um you know this is we're we're we're the country that brought McDonald's to the world.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: I mean, when you when you look at our quote unquote contributions, um they have been wonderful, but they've also been wonderfully horrible uh in many areas.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: And so this is one of those wonderfully horrible contributions to the world.
29:02
SPEAKER_00: So so tell tell us uh our next tell us the ramifications of all this.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so this leads to the question of why, right?
29:12
SPEAKER_01: Why did the CDC Advisory Committee approve this vaccine to be added to the regular vaccine schedule?
29:17
SPEAKER_01: We know other countries are not recommending it anymore.
29:22
SPEAKER_01: We know that it's not benefiting the health of the children.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: We know it actually has negative efficacy data behind it.
29:27
SPEAKER_01: We know that it has the clear proven root proven risk of harm, especially to children.
29:32
SPEAKER_01: So why did they push it?
29:34
SPEAKER_01: This is this is where I'm going to um theorize.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: So as as more data becomes available, we'll keep people updated if that data becomes available.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: You know how governments are.
29:47
SPEAKER_01: So this is what I think.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: I think that pushing this COVID vaccine onto the CDC's list of vaccination recommended vaccines helps the vaccine manufacturers avoid liability.
30:03
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
30:04
SPEAKER_01: So I let me walk you through this.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: All COVID-19 vaccines being administered in the US to our children, as I said, are under the emergency use authorized products.
30:16
SPEAKER_01: So it's an emergency use authorized product, a EUA.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: If the COVID vaccine is not added to the CDC's schedule, the current liability protection that the manufacturers and healthcare workers have that it that covers the COVID vaccine um administration and manufacturer, that current liability is under what's called the PrEP Act.
30:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay, that was a like an emergency pathway that the government utilized in order to get the vaccine out there quickly and to make sure that there was no liability for any company making the vaccine and anybody administering the vaccine.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: And under this emergency prep act, anytime that there's a vaccine damage claim, it goes through what's called CICP.
31:19
SPEAKER_01: It's a countermeasures injury compensation program.
31:23
SPEAKER_01: Okay, most people have not heard of that.
31:25
SPEAKER_01: Have you heard of that, Joel?
31:26
SPEAKER_00: No.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: No.
31:28
SPEAKER_01: So most people who are in this vaccine realm have heard of the national vaccine injury compensation program, right?
31:37
SPEAKER_01: That's the program that was set up in the 1980s to deal with vaccine industry, uh sorry, vaccine injuries.
31:44
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: This is different because the COVID vaccine um was manufactured under the PrEP Act, any injuries have to go through the CICP program.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
31:57
SPEAKER_01: Now, when the Health and Human Services Public Health Emergency Declaration expires, right?
32:07
SPEAKER_01: When there's no longer, when basically when COVID's no longer claimed as an emergency, then the COVID vaccine will not be covered under the countermeasures injury compensation program.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: In other words, the liability protection will be removed.
32:27
SPEAKER_01: But as long as the government declares that COVID is still an emergency, it's covered.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: The liability is covered.
32:36
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: And this is quite interesting because if you noticed that Biden recently came out, I think it was on 60 Minutes, about like three weeks ago, and he said, the pandemic's over.
32:51
SPEAKER_01: We still have problems with COVID, we're still working on it, but the pandemic is over, right?
32:56
SPEAKER_01: Implying we're not in a state of emergency anymore anymore.
32:59
SPEAKER_01: But just this week, Health and Human Services released a statement saying, and I quote, a public health emergency exists and has existed since January 27th, 2020, nationwide.
33:11
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: So why, why the conflicting statements?
33:16
SPEAKER_01: And I think it's because they're covering their butts.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: Because as soon as it gets off this, um, but but it gets a little more complicated in just a minute.
33:24
SPEAKER_01: So just hang on with me.
33:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh stick with me through this.
33:27
SPEAKER_01: So as soon as it's not an emergency, it's not going to be covered under the PrEP Act, and they won't have liability.
33:33
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
33:34
SPEAKER_01: So any any vaccine, any vaccine maker is not liable for injury or death associated with the emergency use authorization vaccines, but they can be held liable once that vaccine is fully licensed, unless it's added to the CDC's vaccination schedule.
33:58
SPEAKER_01: So it's got to be added, and then they're covered again.
34:01
SPEAKER_01: They have no liability whatsoever.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: All right.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: Now, if you look though, this is where it gets a little bit confusing, and this is where I'm going to um kind of theorize a little bit.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: If you look at the information that the committee presented when they voted, slide 24, their information, and I'll put that in the show notes, it explicitly states that the newly added COVID vaccines will not be covered under the um the vaccine, the national vaccine injury compensation program.
34:34
SPEAKER_01: It states that they're going to continue to be covered under this emergency countermeasures injury compensation program.
34:41
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so why?
34:43
SPEAKER_01: Why would they be doing that?
34:45
SPEAKER_01: Because if it's if it's the vaccine moves over to the childhood schedule, it should automatically go over and be covered by that national program that was set up in the 80s.
34:54
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: So I came up with three potential, mostly three reasons why.
34:59
SPEAKER_01: Part of this could be there's some kind of bureaucratic rule that you and I are not provy to, that we just don't understand.
35:05
SPEAKER_01: But you know, I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt here with that reasoning.
35:09
SPEAKER_01: I don't think that's what this is, but let's throw it out there for the benefit of the doubt.
35:14
SPEAKER_01: Another reason is this could wait a minute.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: See, seeing it, wait a minute.
35:18
SPEAKER_00: See, I mean just I'm just um I'm a little bit confused here.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: Okay, you're you're you're moving uh um this is this is pretty technical.
35:28
SPEAKER_00: Um so so so let me back up what you're you're you're saying, um, because I see I I'm the I'm the layman and you're the you're the researcher here.
35:37
SPEAKER_00: So I'm in this case I'm I'm being like our listeners here, and I I I want to make sure I'm getting this.
35:42
SPEAKER_00: You're saying that that um once once the emergency is over, the mRNA vaccine moves off of the prep.
35:56
SPEAKER_00: And but it doesn't automatically it can't move into the national vaccine injury compensation program, which is which is standard for all of these this litany of of childhood vaccines uh platform that that you know we're supposed to get.
36:13
SPEAKER_00: Um it doesn't move into that automatically.
36:17
SPEAKER_00: If if if if if the CDC recommends it for that, it still doesn't move into that automatically.
36:24
SPEAKER_01: So okay, if the CDC says this COVID vaccine vaccine should be on the childhood schedule, right, of the routine vaccinations, it was our layman's understanding that it would be covered by the national vaccine injury compensation program.
36:42
SPEAKER_01: So basically, when a vaccine's added to the CDC's vaccine schedule, yeah, it it also adds that vaccine to the public health agency vaccine for children program.
36:53
SPEAKER_01: Okay, and that's like um you know, to help people get the vaccine when they can't afford to get it.
37:00
SPEAKER_01: That means the manufacturers are now protected from all liability under the federal vaccine injury compensation program.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: So I guess that's what we think should happen, and and that's what has been listed previously.
37:14
SPEAKER_01: Like I've seen this before in government documents.
37:17
SPEAKER_01: Once it's added onto the schedule, it should immediately be covered, liability coverage under the federal vaccine injury compensation program.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: You're exactly right.
37:27
SPEAKER_00: And what I'm saying is But what but why isn't it?
37:30
SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying now, and that's this is the I'm gonna theorize here.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: It's not added to it.
37:36
SPEAKER_01: And in fact, the committee specifically called it out and said the COVID vaccine will not be added to the national vaccine injury compensation program like it should.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: It will stay under this emergency um under this emergency.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's gonna stay under the countermeasures injury compensation program.
37:56
SPEAKER_01: And so what I'm theorizing, I got three different possible explanations for this, and I'll tell you the one I think it is.
38:02
SPEAKER_01: So the first one is maybe there is a bureaucratic rule that that I can't see, you know, that's not published in this data.
38:10
SPEAKER_01: I don't think that's it.
38:11
SPEAKER_01: I think it was supposed to move over, you know, to the national program.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
38:17
SPEAKER_01: The second second possibility is this could be nefarious.
38:21
SPEAKER_01: All right.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: If you look at the CDC's website, uh sorry, if you look, um, it's it's um health resources, health resources and services administration.
38:33
SPEAKER_01: If you look at that website, they actually have this chart that's a comparison of the emergency counters countermeasures injury compensation program to the national vaccine injury compensation program.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: So they're spelling it out for you.
38:46
SPEAKER_01: What's the difference here?
38:48
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
38:48
SPEAKER_01: If you look at that chart, you might come to the same conclusion as me.
38:54
SPEAKER_01: When the vaccine is operating under this emergency, um, this, you know, this emergency program, a compensation program, it appears that it is much more difficult to win a claim than if it went under this national uh childhood vaccine program, you know, the one that it should be under.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: So for instance, you only have a one-year filing deadline.
39:20
SPEAKER_01: Under under the emergency plan, you only have a one-year filing deadline.
39:25
SPEAKER_01: Under the regular vaccine injury claims, uh, the filing deadlines vary, but it's like two to three years, in generally speaking.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
39:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, if you scroll down through that chart, you'll see what's what's covered.
39:41
SPEAKER_01: Under the emergency one, the attorney's fees and costs are not covered, right?
39:47
SPEAKER_01: So you want to bring a case against them, you have to pay for that yourself.
39:51
SPEAKER_01: Under this the regular program, the attorney fees and costs may actually be covered.
39:57
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, who makes the decision?
40:00
SPEAKER_01: Who gets to decide if your claim um should go through or not, right?
40:05
SPEAKER_01: If you should get compensated.
40:07
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
40:07
SPEAKER_01: Big difference here.
40:09
SPEAKER_01: The regular program, there's a special, there's special called masters of the U.S.
40:14
SPEAKER_01: Um Court of Federal Claims.
40:16
SPEAKER_01: These are judges.
40:18
SPEAKER_01: The judges make the decision.
40:20
SPEAKER_01: In this emergency program, guess who makes the decision?
40:27
SPEAKER_01: Health and Human Services, right?
40:30
SPEAKER_01: They make the decision.
40:31
SPEAKER_01: So this same bureau bureaucracy makes the decision.
40:36
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, also, if they deny your claim, do you have a right to appeal?
40:43
SPEAKER_01: In the regular program, judicial appeal, um, you do have a right to a judicial appeal by either party, and you can go to a higher court possibly.
40:53
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
40:54
SPEAKER_01: Under the emergency um injury plan, it's a one-step administrative reconcit reconsideration is possible.
41:03
SPEAKER_01: There's no judicial appeal permitted.
41:07
SPEAKER_01: So when you lay it out like that, it makes it harder.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: To date, there's um about 7,000 claims that have been submitted through this emergency program.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: Six, six have been approved so far.
41:22
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
41:23
SPEAKER_01: So this might be one reason, might.
41:26
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I don't know this for a fact.
41:27
SPEAKER_01: This is just me looking at this, thinking about what I know about government and why would they do this?
41:33
SPEAKER_01: But here's the other one.
41:34
SPEAKER_01: Here's the one that I think might be the big reason.
41:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay, this might be to cover their behinds because it is my understanding that this is the first time that an emergency use authorized vaccine has been added to the vaccine schedule.
41:54
SPEAKER_01: Right?
41:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't think this has been done before.
41:57
SPEAKER_01: And I think they're testing the waters.
42:00
SPEAKER_01: They're trying to see can this vaccine be added to the vaccine schedule?
42:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, are we gonna get pushback on this?
42:08
SPEAKER_01: Are we gonna get lawsuits about this?
42:10
SPEAKER_01: So they're leaving the emergency liability coverage in place for now to cover themselves in case something happens and it gets determined that you cannot add an emergency use authorized vaccine to the schedule, right?
42:26
SPEAKER_01: Then the liabilities is the the manufacturers, all these people who are administering this vaccine, they're still covered.
42:33
SPEAKER_01: They're still covered from liability.
42:35
SPEAKER_01: And then the plan might be to move it later to the national vaccine injury compensation program.
42:41
SPEAKER_01: Again, that's me speculating about why they did this.
42:47
SPEAKER_00: Wow, that's um it I mean, it certainly makes sense.
42:51
SPEAKER_00: And from uh from a uh a strategic, you know, a strategic uh uh plan, it certainly makes sense.
43:01
SPEAKER_00: But um wow, that is um I I I just think it'll all be fine if we get 87,000 more IRS agents.
43:10
SPEAKER_01: That'll just fix everything.
43:13
SPEAKER_00: That'll just fix everything.
43:15
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
43:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh Cena, we're we're really over time here.
43:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh is there anything else you want to you want to um wrap this up with?
43:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh it's wow, this is a this is a profound, um a profound uh podcast.
43:31
SPEAKER_00: Uh thank you for digging into that and finding it for us.
43:35
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah.
43:36
SPEAKER_01: And I I do want to say, um, and I I think you're uh you are like-minded in this.
43:41
SPEAKER_01: Joel and I are not saying don't get the vaccine, you know, we're not making these recommendations, we're not judging people for what they do what they're doing, whether they're getting it or not.
43:51
SPEAKER_01: I think we are both, it's safe to say that we both have this libertarian approach.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: It's totally your choice if you want to give the vaccine to your family.
44:01
SPEAKER_01: No judgment on our part, just we don't want it mandated for us, right?
44:06
SPEAKER_01: And and that's really the pushback here.
44:08
SPEAKER_01: I want to help educate people so that we can stop because you can see how this can be a snowball into eventually mandating it.
44:17
SPEAKER_01: And so I just want to try to help get the word out and to protect our children.
44:21
SPEAKER_01: Even now I'm like tearing up, you know, this this type of corruption, backdoor deals and whatnot, we we've seen this over and over again.
44:29
SPEAKER_01: This is nothing new.
44:30
SPEAKER_01: This one hit me really hard this weekend when I was um, because this is our kids.
44:36
SPEAKER_01: This is our kids we're talking about.
44:38
SPEAKER_01: And if you can't get the education to the parents so that they can make the decision, and and the the agencies are trying hard to stop that education from getting to the parents.
44:48
SPEAKER_01: If you can't get it to the parents, they can't make the an informed decision for their children.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: And the children are the ones that are going to suffer in the end.
44:56
SPEAKER_01: So this is a really hard one for me.
44:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, and if we help one person out there, I'm truly grateful.
45:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you, Cena.
45:04
SPEAKER_00: This this is wonderful, and thank you all for listening.
45:07
SPEAKER_00: And if you think this is information that you need to share with friends and family to help to uh, you know, if if if you're frustrated with them not getting it, uh this is this is one to really share.
45:20
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45:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh because um being you know, being aware, being knowing uh about these these shenanigans uh is a it is the first step in starting to actually uh actually not mistrust but but be discerning, discerning about who you believe and what and what narrative you believe.
45:52
SPEAKER_00: Thanks for joining us for another Beyond Labels podcast.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: We're signing off now, and we'll look forward to seeing you next week.