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The CFL Outsiders S02/E23 The Tarot Cards Sat Winnipeg and BC · The CFL Outsiders

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  Hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
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  I remain, as always, your 100 % impartial, completely unbiased, and rather impatient co-host, Oldman Shoutingatclouds Joining me as usual this week is MJ.
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  Hey everyone, I'm overtired from baseball.
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  I'm hopped up on cold meds, so I will do my best.
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  I'm sorry if I cough, but I'm happy to be here to talk football.
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  good, that combination ought to make for a good show.
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  I may have to show you the edited version for you to approve.
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  Anyway, also here with us as usual is GT.
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  Hey everyone, how you doing tonight?
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  I'm also not hopped up on cold medicine, but I did have an experience watching the games on Friday night where I went, oh right.
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  Nevermind, it's a long story.
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  But I did have one of those all right moments.
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  yes.
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  Well, let's get started right off.
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  You were doing the Casey Printer's Jersey auction there, GT.
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  Any updates for that?
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  Absolutely.
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  As we talked about last week, we had moved the final deadline to the final whistle of the final game of the season, Saturday evening.
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  And at some point late in the week, we had a last-minute bid that came in at a number that was exciting, very exciting.
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  And I'm proud to announce that uh after a season-long battle in the trenches and on the field, front and back, offense and defense,
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  special teams involved.
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  Both of the MJ's did their best, put themselves ahead of themselves and played for the team and came out with a winning bid.
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  So both of the MJ's are going to share this jersey.
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  I understand I'll let MJ talk about it.
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  And between all the things that we've done this year, I'm proud to announce that CFL Outsiders will be donating over $300 to the CFL fan Fight Cancer.
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  and we will be making that official in the next week or so at the very most.
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  So thank you very much to everyone that took part.
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  We appreciate it very much.
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  so MJ, I understand you're sharing it or is that the plan?
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  you know, it's like those Olympic high jumpers who just couldn't, they kept jumping off and kept kept pace with each other.
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  And then finally, they just decided to share the gold medal.
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  And that's what my sister and I have decided to do.
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  So we will be sharing, we will have joint custody of the jersey and we'll most likely need a written agreement to avoid any confusion.
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  I am not doing any arbitration cases, okay?
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  No arbitration cases for me.
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  Yes.
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  Your job is done when the jersey gets mailed.
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  Thank you, which you'll have to get that out to MJ sometime so she can wear it for the Grey Cup Show.
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  Alrighty.
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  So a few things to talk about this week.
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  There's a little bit of news and then there were, well, kind of some games.
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  First thing, the fantasy is all over.
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  I mentioned last week, unfortunately, I came up one game short.
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  I lost in the finals to Adam of the Canadian football countdown.
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  But I played the last week just to play it out anyway.
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  So I'll let you know I managed to get 102.9 points this week.
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  Means I had 2188 points even for the season.
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  104.2 points a game.
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  I have found generally if you average about 100 points you usually win more than you lose.
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  So I'm happy with that.
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  I'll have to do some more looking for ways to improve for next year and take it all the way.
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  How about the two of you?
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  Did you bother this last weekend?
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  It's a tough weekend to do fantasy.
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  Did you bother MJ?
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  Good.
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  sadly I did bother.
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  ah
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  me paint a picture for you.
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  I met my sisters up for the weekend and we are at a book convention and all of a sudden I have like I'm like I'm just gonna check my phone quickly and I realize that Davis
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  Alexander is not playing and it is 1 30 p.m.
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  and the game started at 1.
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  Oh anyway I ended up with 62.3
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  yeah, that's I thought you were at a bookie convention and you're doing fantasy.
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  That would have been pretty good.
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  I actually did OK.
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  I was 103.9.
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  So it sounds like a radio station, but that's what it was.
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  I had Bo as my captain, which was OK.
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  Hamilton's defense, which was OK.
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  My butler, which was very meh.
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  But then I had to block because I figured if Otto was going to do anything, maybe he would get a touchdown from the one yard line type of thing, which got me zero points.
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  And then my receivers weren't good.
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  I had Lawler be like, I think a lot of people did thinking they were going to try to get Lawler the touchdowns.
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  Instead, they decided it was Tim White's night.
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  So Lawler wasn't great.
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  I had Rhymes, which was not bad, but not great.
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  But I had Eberhardt at the end as my flex
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  That'll help.
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  Eberhardt got me 26 points.
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  So yeah, I ended up with 103.
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  That was the saving grace.
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  Otherwise it would not have been great.
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  Yeah, our teams were almost the same in a lot of ways.
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  I also went with Bo and with the Hamilton defense and I teamed Bo up with Lawler and then I added Keandre Smith in with him and went for my, I think I put Mills and running back
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  and I forget who else I had in there, but as I started bouncing it around and looking for things to juggle in that, I decided that maybe I'd cut back somewhere else and up.
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  Keandre Smith to Tim White, which turned out to be a smart move with the two touchdowns.
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  So that's what got me the points that were there.
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  It's always a bit of a crapshoot, and especially the last weekend, because as you discovered, you don't know, you can pick somebody great and they get in no plays or one
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  play.
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  It happens.
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  Well, that's it.
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  A question for fantasy that I don't know and why you can't do it.
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  Why can't you pick a second quarterback as your flex?
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  They just don't, it doesn't show up.
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  For some reason, you're not allowed to pick a second quarterback as your flex.
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  And if you could afford it, if you could afford it, I don't see why you couldn't, you know, like, especially a guy like Tommy Stevens that would be a great flex to have, right?
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  Maybe
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  That may be something I've never seen that though.
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  For some reason they limit it to what some people call the skill position players, which I think is a little bit ridiculous, but to the ones that actually carry the ball around,
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  which should include the quarterbacks, I guess.
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  on there as well, right?
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  Like, a kicker or something?
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  there are some leagues that do give points for kickers The other thing that frankly that I think that they should maybe look at doing is giving points to an offensive line and it
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  would be based on sort of your sacks and your running total for the game.
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  And I think that that
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  various fantasy things that I've listened to, I've heard that the offensive line would be the absolute hardest to give points for, so that's the reason that they don't.
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  But I have also heard in other places that there's a possible major upgrade and difference in fantasy coming next year, so that it's going to be a completely different kind of
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  a game apparently.
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  I don't know what the differences are because I don't play and watch the NFL, but I understand again, it's going to be more like NFL fantasy is what I've heard.
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  so yeah, I don't know how that works, but that's what I've heard.
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  Maybe I won't dedicate too much time to thinking about it in the offseason
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  then.
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  Wait and see what they give to us.
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  A couple other news items just really almost rapid-fire things for most of these.
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  Bob Dyce to no one's surprise, was released, was terminated as the coach of the Red Blacks, which I guess isn't the worst thing in the world.
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  He gets another year's pay at least.
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  Not much news that I've seen around that.
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  other than a lot of speculation on who they're getting in there for a coach.
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  Doesn't seem to be anything concrete.
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  I've heard Henry Burris's name kicked around.
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  I've heard some speculation that they may try and steal Dinwiddie out of Hamilton or they are not out of Hamilton, not of Toronto.
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  Sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself.
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  Hamilton was the next one.
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  They may start to steal Dinwiddie out of Toronto or they may go see if they can get.
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  Orlando Steinhauer out of Hamilton to give up the president thing and become a coach again the only other serious one I've heard kicked around is Mark Mueller the OC for the riders
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  but I've also heard people on other podcasts say they've talked to him and he Says he's going to be very picky when he makes the move he wants to make sure he's going to a team
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  where he feels like he's got success and Ottawa right now might not be that
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  Yeah, there's two, there's a bunch of things there that I think need to be unpacked very quickly.
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  yeah, we don't want to spend all night on it.
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  first of all, they fired Dyce but they haven't fired the rest of the staff as far as I know, so they have to do that.
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  Burke said the head coach makes the coach's decision, but most position coaches are on year-to-year contracts.
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  So it's almost like he's leaving the new head coach to make the decisions on who he wants to keep.
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  And at the same time, leaving those guys in limbo so they can't even...they have to quit if they want to look for another job before January or whenever they get to hiring a
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  coach.
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  I don't think that's a good move.
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  I think they should have just cleaned house, period, and been done with it.
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  Secondly, I've heard...
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  em
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  that Campbell still, Rick Campbell still in the running and I think that would be a bad move.
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  I think they need to just clean house period.
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  I spoke with my brother in Ottawa today and I mentioned Noel Thorpe again as we talked about a couple weeks ago and he immediately went, no way, Oseg is still mad at him from
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  when he walked and did them the dirty a few years ago.
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  when he tried to go after the Edmonton job when he was there at DC and tried to cut his contract So I guess there's really deep bad blood there.
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  So that probably isn't going to happen.
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  I think O'Shea's in play.
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  If the bombers get beat up this weekend, they may finally say enough of each other.
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  And I think O'Shea is probably more in play than
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  than say, Dinwoody.
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  And Orlando Steinar would be a horrible choice, in my opinion, a horrible choice.
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  So I can't see them doing that, but stranger things have happened.
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  that list that Three Down put out had a couple names on it that I thought were too soon.
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  And a few other guys that I thought were kind of interesting.
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  I think personally, it's going to be either Mueller or Monson, not a Hamilton, know, Brett Monson, who came over as the DC this year.
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  I think though Mueller is probably the guy because he can be head coach and OC.
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  I think it's too early for him, but I think he's probably going to be the guy.
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  that's my opinion.
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  If he's interested, absolutely.
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  So a few things here.
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  A, this is the worst kept secret.
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  Like everyone knew that was coming.
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  Why Sean Burke did not clean house when he announced this, Tommy Condell's name should have been in the same sentence.
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  And honestly, so now, now you have to find a head coach that can deal like as.
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  how Sean Burk's running things.
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  So now you're to find somebody who's willing to work with him and come in and clean a house for him.
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  And I'm not sure who is interested in doing that.
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  OC is not a terrible life, right?
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  Head coach can be a terrible life, especially if your GM is going to hang you out to dry.
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  So it'll be interesting to see who...
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  who they can lure up to Ottawa.
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  Yeah, and the other factor is Burke only has one year left on his contract.
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  So a coach that's going in there doesn't know if Burke's going to survive next year.
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  And then if Burke hires him and a new uh GM comes in, you're tied to Burke, not to the new GM.
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  And that usually means that you're not going to last long either.
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  He's Saskatchewan and Craig Dickinson, right?
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  it's going to be very interesting.
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  This is a make or break higher for Sean Burke as well.
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  So it's got to be the right guy.
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  I'm wearing my Henry Burr's jersey and it just because, you know, because Hank would be, Hank would be interesting if nothing else coming in to save yet another franchise.
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  Yes, exactly.
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  My only concern with Hank and with some of the other names, including Monson and well, and frankly, Mueller is that they don't have the experience at the head coach position.
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  the way that things have gone in Ottawa.
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  I don't think you can take a chance on somebody who's doesn't look like they're at least gold standard without the fans revolting on it.
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  And they did, again, you were mentioning Three Down, they were one of the ones that were talking about this, and they mentioned that if they go with Steinhauser, Tommy Condell and
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  him are very close friends.
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  So maybe you keep Condell and that's, yeah, that's...
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  But look what happened in Saskatchewan when Jones up and left them in the middle of nowhere, and they...
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  just decided, we're going to, because of the cap we're going to cheap out and just promote within and do that.
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  If Ottawa does that, they're going to put the same thing as Saskatchewan, two or three years of disaster before you finally fix it.
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  Yeah.
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  What are the odds of Rick Campbell being head coach next year?
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  No, but like seriously, I think if Sean Burke has one year left on his contract, are they just going to suck it up for a year and stop gap it?
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  I don't think the fan I I don't think the fans will like that very much either so because I don't Yeah, yeah, you might be right yeah
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  they've got to prove that the fans are waiting to see that they care.
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  I mean, they're already going into a period where they're going to have reduced ticket sales because of all the construction.
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  So they need to keep at least what fans they can.
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  And to me, Campbell would be doing exactly what I just said a moment ago, exactly the same thing that Saskatchewan did with Dickinson.
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  It's the easy move.
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  Let's just do it.
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  Yeah, I agree.
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  don't think it would be accepted well by the fan base, and I don't think it would be the right move either.
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  I'm shocked they didn't just clean house and start over.
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  Yeah.
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  And the last thing is I hope Bobby Dyce gets himself a, probably another special teams gig somewhere.
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  Cause he was very good at special teams.
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  He just doesn't seem to have the demeanor or the, can't seem to set a culture in the, in the team.
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  Alright, let's move on.
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  You were mentioning that the timing on the games this weekend has changed, GT.
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  Yeah, that's one of the things that definitely the league announced and they announced it pretty quickly actually once it started.
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  They've moved both games up one hour this weekend and everyone should be aware of that.
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  If you haven't been listening to somewhere else, we're glad to let you know that you got to be in front of your televisions an hour earlier this weekend than what it says on your
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  original schedule because of game seven in the World Series.
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  If it happens, they don't want to interfere with it.
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  But they've also said that they're not moving it if there is no game seven.
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  This is now cut and dry.
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  So even if the World Series only goes five or six, they are not moving it back to the original time.
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  So please be aware of it that they have moved the games up one hour, both games.
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  So I think there's still going to be some overlap between the end of the second game and the beginning of the World Series, but I'm not 100 % sure on the timing of the World
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  Series.
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  I believe they're now two o'clock and six o'clock rather than three o'clock and seven o'clock, if I remember correctly.
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  that makes sense, because out here they're early.
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  In Alberta they're MJ.
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  You're going to be able to start the pregame show at 10 in the morning and probably watch sports till midnight.
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  Yeah, pretty much, because yeah, it's like the Dodgers, the Dodgers.
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  That was one of the things I loved about living in Alberta was we'd crack the keg at 930 in the morning and we'd get to pick it up the night before, crack it at 930 and sit in the
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  basement until midnight and finish it off.
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  It was great.
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  I'm gonna like my eyeballs are gonna be burning Yeah, the Dodgers and Blue Jays are playing well that game starts at 8 p.m.
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  Eastern So that would makes if they can stagger uh so this like the CFL really has no choice, right?
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  A this makes you this makes you look like a team player You're all behind Canada's team, but B the Blue Jays games are The viewership's between six point six and eight point three
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  million a game right now
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  um So that's a lot of people watching so you can't compete with that and you're not going to so and then you know yeah you just feel let's go Blue Jays.
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  It'll be a game seven the Jays are winning right now it'll be back to being tied and it'll be they'll be a game seven.
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  even.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  could take it in six.
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  That's right.
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  Yes.
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  Alrighty.
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  Anyway, so that's our public service announcement there.
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  I'll also mention, just in case, I'm assuming that there are probably a lot of people that skipped these games on the weekend because they really were almost preseason football.
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  But if you haven't heard yet, Winnipeg did lose a quarterback, not Zack but they started Strevler.
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  And I think on the first series, he went down on a non-contact injury.
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  ah did a hard plant and his knee buckled and they ended up carrying him off and nobody said officially but it doesn't look good for him coming back in this season and I've heard
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  people speculating he just may not be coming back at all with the second rehab this soon after the first one.
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  Any thoughts?
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  Yeah, it was sad to see because I mean it was a non-contact and those things are, you know, the worst kind where you just basically planted and turned and that was it.
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  And you knew right away as well it was, you just knew that that was not good and it was not going to be, and that's going to be another long rehab.
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  he's going to, if he comes back, it'll be late next year and whether he wants to do it or whether he's going to be able to do it.
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  and or whether anybody wants him back after that is all three questions need to be answered.
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  honestly we could see that could be the worst kind of ending for a career.
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  They showed him sobbing on the sideline in his partner's arms and I...
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  Parmy was like, yeah, maybe we should show this because it's just like the real life of people and these are humans.
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  at the same time, I'm like, I don't know that we need to show this in the middle of a game, He's posted on his Instagram that he's like...
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  He's like, I have no regrets.
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  never cheated.
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  He's like saying a big deal about how he never cheated the process on rehab and he worked so hard.
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  And that Instagram post has, think I'm just looking at it right now, there's like 300, over 300 comments and a lot of those comments are from fellow players around the league.
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  he based on these comments, this guy is very highly and well-respected in the CFL.
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  And I think that's a huge loss for
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  football in general if he's not playing.
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  he's definitely a character and he's, he's good, but he's, he's one of those people that he's not quite good enough at a quarterback to be a quarterback.
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  He's not quite consistent enough at a running back to be a running back.
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  he can play receiver.
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  He's one of those Swiss army knives that can do everything, but he stays on the, in my opinion, he stays on the team because he can do all those different things.
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  He doesn't have.
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  quite the talent in any of the specific areas to make it go for him.
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  And I will say on what you said, GT, about it being obvious, when they showed the replay, I could see where the knee buckled.
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  But in real time, I saw him make the cut, and then a DB came in and knocked him down.
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  And that's weird.
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  I've never seen a DB take down Streveler on the first hit.
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  And he stayed down.
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  And once we saw it, I saw why.
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  that was the part that made me question it right off the bat.
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  It was just so bizarre.
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  Yeah, and think one of the other things that he is, as you talked about, where he does everything, you know, a little bit, just enough of everything to be able to maintain a
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  position.
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  He's also, from everything that we've read or heard, a tremendous locker room guy.
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  So add that to everything else, and he's the kind of guy you want, on your team.
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  I think that's a large portion of
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  the other thing that may affect this is apparently it's the same knee he just had to rehab last year.
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  I wish him well.
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  I hope that he can play again if he wants to.
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  And if not, that he's able to move on and do what he wants with his life, involved with football somehow.
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  Yeah.
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  hope he's coaching here.
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  If he can't play, I hope he's coaching, because I think that's the type of guy you'd want on your coaching.
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  I could definitely see him as a position coach, because he's got, he does bring just so much energy.
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  And if you can get a coach that does that, that's amazing.
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  But we were going to move on because MJ, you were mentioning that Ed Hervey decided to endear himself to his players again.
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  He's a piece of-
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  From Sean Burke to Ed Hervey, here we go.
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  uh This man, I...
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  It's just...
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  Okay, let me tell you and then we'll talk about...
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  Ed Hervey says, players are replaceable.
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  This is a Three Down Nation article and he was talking about Niles Morgan, Nick Anderson, Joel De Blanco and Brock Mogensen.
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  saying that he doesn't know if the all four of them are going to be back because they're all replaceable because quote-unquote I've told our guys this I look at linebackers like
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  you can replace them.
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  I've always felt this way and it's nothing personal
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  As I said, he's a piece of work.
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  Do you want to play for him?
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  I was going to say good luck signing any backers in free agency if you want to.
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  But no, this is a serious question.
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  When is enough enough with this guy?
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  They had that huge beef with Eugene Lewis.
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  This isn't the first time he's called out linebackers or O-line guys in Edmonton before.
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  He did it with his last tenure there.
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  And I'm not quite sure why Chris Morris and Co have decided that this kind of behavior is acceptable.
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  saying these kinds of things to the press are acceptable in the same week although maybe this is just on brand for the Elks now because in the same week I was going to talk about
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  this in the game but I'll talk about it now that Mark Killam said that he wants Cody to play next year and that basically Trey's gonna be gone and Cody's like well I don't know
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  if I'm gonna play I have to talk to my family I don't know and then they're like no this is what's happening so we don't need you guys
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  We don't need you Morgan Anderson, De Blanco and Morgensen.
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  We need Cody Fajardo We don't need you Ford.
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  are being fired out here on the prairies.
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  Yes.
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  Well, well, within a year now, he said, it's not worth paying any money for receivers and you can replace linebackers.
• 24:23
  So give him another year and we'll find out what position he actually thinks is hard.
• 24:28
  all seen how he's not paid for receivers this year and how well that's worked out for that team.
• 24:33
  well.
• 24:34
  we talked about just last week or the week before when we were talking about players and we said that, we didn't know how he was going to be managed to keep all of those
• 24:42
  linebackers.
• 24:44
  So, yeah, so he's not going to keep any of them or he doesn't care which ones he does keep.
• 24:50
  So it doesn't matter, you know, like it's like wild.
• 24:53
  It's just wild.
• 24:54
  But in some regards, he's right in that he's in that
• 25:01
  He does have he doesn't need all four of those guys He's only going to be he only needs to sign two of them Maybe three max and one of them he's going to lose he could be a lot more
• 25:13
  diplomatic about the way he does it There's absolutely that's the trick, but he is gonna lose one of them.
• 25:19
  He could simply say hey, we we're gonna lose one of them We just don't know which one it comes down to negotiations, etc.
• 25:24
  Etc.
• 25:25
  Same thing.
• 25:25
  He could have done with
• 25:27
  with Eugene Lewis and just decided not to because he doesn't have a filter apparently and does not understand how to, be in the least bit media friendly and media savvy in the way
• 25:39
  that he speaks about his players and his contract negotiations.
• 25:42
  he seemed, it very much has a my way or the highway.
• 25:45
  He said it in his opening press conference and he still believes it obviously.
• 25:49
  But he's not going
• 25:51
  What's he gonna do on the defensive line?
• 25:53
  Because he's gonna lose at least two of those guys, at least.
• 25:56
  He's not gonna pay all these guys next year.
• 25:58
  He's not gonna be able to.
• 26:00
  So, yeah, Edmonton's gonna look very different again next year, very different again.
• 26:05
  and frankly on the D line, their best performers weren't the people that they brought in, you know.
• 26:12
  So that's part of it.
• 26:14
  Yeah.
• 26:15
  of money for.
• 26:16
  So they're going to be, you yeah.
• 26:19
  Yep.
• 26:20
  Yeah.
• 26:20
  And like you said about the linebackers, he could easily have said, these four guys all played exceptional this year.
• 26:26
  They're due a payday.
• 26:27
  I doubt we'll be able to keep them all.
• 26:30
  And that sounds like a good, respectful way to do it.
• 26:33
  It's saying the exact same thing, but it's not making your players look at the article.
• 26:39
  What the?
• 26:40
  Yeah.
• 26:40
  And it's interesting because in general circles, the position that seems that is the easiest to replace because there's a thousand of them every year coming out of the United
• 26:52
  States, is running back.
• 26:54
  And yet, he just signed his running back for three years for huge dollars.
• 26:58
  So, maybe he thinks running backs are irreplaceable.
• 27:01
  I don't know.
• 27:03
  Yeah.
• 27:03
  Well, especially too, because the thing is Rankin isn't extremely good back, but he is so dependent on getting a seam and going.
• 27:13
  And that's where he, it's his speed when he breaks into the open field that, that makes him as big and as dangerous a weapon as he is, but he goes through games with 20, 30 yards
• 27:24
  cause he can't get through the line of scrimmage.
• 27:27
  evidenced again this weekend.
• 27:29
  Yeah.
• 27:30
  exactly.
• 27:30
  So, well, we'll see how Ed does with the team this year.
• 27:36
  We've got a couple other bits of news for looking ahead to 27.
• 27:40
  First of all, you said the season dates are moving a little bit, GT.
• 27:44
  Yeah, I read an article or saw some notes come out that uh I don't think it's official yet on the CFL website, but there was a note in uh Three Down that in conversation, they've
• 27:56
  learned that they're moving the schedule forward by yet another week.
• 28:01
  Now, this is something a lot of people have been wanting and talking about for a while, but apparently now in 2027, We're going to be playing in May.
• 28:10
  In the last week of May, we're going to be playing football again.
• 28:13
  So rather than waiting until June and July like we used to.
• 28:16
  So that Canada Day opening game is now Victoria Day opening game almost.
• 28:23
  So it's all getting closer and closer to spring football.
• 28:27
  Yes it is.
• 28:28
  we will, Yes.
• 28:33
  I was going to mention something on that and then I forgot.
• 28:36
  well.
• 28:36
  Went in...
• 28:36
  sit outside in spring than sit outside.
• 28:40
  This Elks game, Calgary game was on like a Friday night in October at 730 in the dark in the cold.
• 28:50
  No, no one wants to do that.
• 28:53
  Nobody.
• 28:54
  I'd rather sit outside.
• 28:56
  It's it's May.
• 28:57
  It's nice.
• 28:58
  And it's finally like a hint of like joy in my life.
• 29:01
  Like, please let me sit outside and watch football.
• 29:04
  Yeah, that's true.
• 29:05
  I can't complain about football starting up again a little bit earlier, I know what I was going to say.
• 29:09
  So they'll do this.
• 29:10
  They'll move it ahead and the whole season ahead another week and everybody will still be saying, but the season doesn't begin to Labor Day, you know.
• 29:16
  I was like, I made a joke about that.
• 29:18
  I was like, does that saying still count?
• 29:22
  Yeah, yeah, and while I get this is yet another blow or the possibly the final blow to our hopes and aspirations of having a football weekend with Vanier and Grey Cup on the same
• 29:35
  weekend.
• 29:36
  the U sports won't even be in the playoffs at that point in time, let alone at the championship.
• 29:41
  Well, they won't even be able to play on the same field because the goalpost will be in a different spot.
• 29:46
  true.
• 29:47
  Anyway, we're staying positive tonight.
• 29:50
  It'd be way too easy for me to slide into that.
• 29:53
  And speaking of positive news for the Rider fans, the other bit of 2027 news when we're playing under all these new rules and playing earlier in that is that they've awarded
• 30:04
  Regina the Grey Cup game for that year.
• 30:06
  So it'll be, I think, the second time in five years because they had it in 21, didn't they?
• 30:12
  I think so, maybe six years.
• 30:14
  21 or 22.
• 30:15
  22, I think.
• 30:17
  Yeah.
• 30:17
  so in five years.
• 30:19
  And I should have looked it up.
• 30:20
  Does anybody remember where it's being played next year?
• 30:23
  Calgary next year.
• 30:24
  I'll agree.
• 30:26
  It's going to be in the West for like four or five years in a row.
• 30:30
  yeah, well.
• 30:32
  This was pretty surprising, I think, because when they first said they were taking bids for the 2027 Grey Cup, and that was only about, what, six or eight weeks ago, they said
• 30:41
  they were opening the process.
• 30:43
  Saskatchewan was not even in the conversation, I don't think.
• 30:45
  It seemed to be all the conversations seemed to be about the East, between Ottawa, Toronto, and maybe Hamilton again.
• 30:54
  But basically, Ottawa and Toronto seem to be the two primary choices because it's been Winnipeg, Calgary, Saskatchewan, BC.
• 31:04
  So it's been in the West for so long, so much.
• 31:07
  So I'm not sure what happened to the other two cities or whether Saskatchewan just put in like the best bid or the only bid, I don't know.
• 31:15
  But it kind of surprised me that they announced Regina.
• 31:18
  They said one of their selling features that they won this bid for is because they were they're going to do all indoor events.
• 31:27
  Nothing will be outside.
• 31:28
  And that was a key feature in winning this bid.
• 31:31
  And that'll make sense.
• 31:32
  They can do that.
• 31:33
  I remember way back in 95, the first, I think that was it, the first Grey Cup that they had there.
• 31:38
  everything was all indoors, all the parties and everything like that.
• 31:42
  And the cold, you pretty much want it to be.
• 31:44
  Scar Street, except that they closed down Scarth Street, did they not?
• 31:47
  If I remember correctly, and I was drunk the entire weekend, mind you, but I remember just wandering around the street and they had the whole thing shut down and it was an outdoor
• 31:56
  mall and then it was party central on the street and from the parade for the entire weekend, it was closed down and the parade was through there and in front of Hotel Regina
• 32:07
  and all that good stuff.
• 32:09
  I ate that was it.
• 32:10
  That was still in my mind of all the Grey Cups I've been to.
• 32:13
  That was my favorite Grey Cup It was that was just I stayed at a friend.
• 32:18
  I stayed at a buddy's house.
• 32:19
  I told him the week before I'm coming to your house.
• 32:22
  Pick me up at the airport.
• 32:23
  He picked me up at the airport.
• 32:25
  I didn't see him till he dropped me off at the airport.
• 32:27
  We just went our separate ways.
• 32:28
  I did not see him for the entire weekend.
• 32:30
  He was out doing and I was out drinking and carrying on and it was so much fun.
• 32:35
  And it was yeah, that was Saskatchewan's first.
• 32:37
  So they did it up right.
• 32:38
  Yeah, yes.
• 32:40
  And I was still living in Regina at the time, so that was a great party to have.
• 32:44
  was.
• 32:44
  I spent
• 32:45
  I don't want to rain on Rider Parade because great you have Grey Cup but this is I don't understand when they're complaining about the East not having viable teams and they're we
• 32:58
  were talking about how they can't have a 1-9 division because the East teams and blah blah but then you haven't given an East team a Grey Cup in five years it make it make sense to
• 33:10
  me and everyone's like well because like Ottawa doesn't have seating
• 33:12
  and Toronto won't sell any tickets and I'm like, okay, but that's not really the case and why can't I get told all the time that they can't have Grey Cup at Percival Stadium, but I
• 33:24
  don't see why you can't.
• 33:25
  I don't see why you can't.
• 33:27
  Why can't you though?
• 33:30
  well, Percival, I understand because there is no room to do expansion and do extra seats and it is maximum 25 ish and that's just not enough.
• 33:40
  It's just not enough.
• 33:42
  You need 35 minimum 40 is preferable.
• 33:46
  If you can jam 50 into one of the biggest stadiums like Edmonton, Toronto or Vancouver, it works.
• 33:52
  But
• 33:53
  you need that many to make it pay, quite honestly.
• 33:57
  you did Percival Stadium with a street party watch party on the outside where you have like uh beer gardens you sell tickets for it like as if as if Montreal can't throw a good
• 34:09
  party
• 34:10
  Well, they can, but I don't think that would sell.
• 34:13
  think to me Montreal's gotta wait until they get the big O Renos done, because it's cheaper to Renault it than to tear it down.
• 34:20
  could be hosting this Grey Cup.
• 34:23
  The League doesn't award these anymore.
• 34:25
  The cities bid on them.
• 34:26
  So if Hamilton didn't bid and Ottawa or Toronto or Montreal didn't bid for one reason or another, whatever they made their choices not to bid, then that's not the league's issue.
• 34:38
  So, and I agree with your point, MJ, I totally understand it.
• 34:41
  And I think it's really valid that you have that, you should have it in the East more often than every
• 34:48
  once every five years.
• 34:50
  should be, you know, it used to be when the city, when the league awarded it, it was once in the east, once in the west, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
• 34:57
  Very rarely did it go to one of the two conferences two years in a row.
• 35:02
  But now that they've gone to the bidding process, then they just, that's the way it works.
• 35:08
  And if Hamilton, if Ottawa's tearing down half their stadium, that's their problem.
• 35:13
  They can't bid on it.
• 35:15
  If Toronto's decided for one reason or another,
• 35:18
  that they don't want to do it, then that's their issue.
• 35:22
  And I don't know why Hamilton and maybe Hamilton just thought they wouldn't get it because they were in it recently as well.
• 35:31
  they're not having an indoor festival.
• 35:32
  Yeah.
• 35:33
  they have been in it recently.
• 35:34
  And like you said, GT they're going to have half a stadium in Ottawa until 28.
• 35:39
  I'm thinking we see Ottawa bidding for it in 28.
• 35:43
  And then probably Edmonton in Ottawa and Edmonton 28 and 29, I imagine will be what we'll see they don't have a stadium, so they couldn't do it personally.
• 35:52
  Most of it really is too small.
• 35:54
  I don't know with BMO, you would know better than me GT if they could expand that or not, even if they can, MLSE is completely up to their ears in World Cup for the next year.
• 36:05
  They're not going to want to be planning a festival.
• 36:08
  So it really only left Hamilton to bid.
• 36:10
  But there's two things about Toronto that I that may would have made it attractive that for I'm not sure why they did.
• 36:16
  Number one is they've already expanded BMO for the World Cup.
• 36:20
  So it's already there.
• 36:21
  it was easily and relatively inexpensively done last time when they had the last great cup there.
• 36:27
  And so it can be 35 to 40,000 without even in a blink of an eye.
• 36:33
  It'll be 35, almost 40,000 for the World Cup next year.
• 36:36
  They could just leave it there till the following year if they had wanted to.
• 36:40
  Secondly, and I don't know what they've done inside, but if I was Rogers, I'd simply convert the Rogers Centre for the Grey Cup game and have it indoors there.
• 36:50
  And you can put 45 inside in Toronto downtown.
• 36:56
  And I don't know how much that would mess with the new field that they've designed for the Blue Jays once they threw the Argos out.
• 37:02
  And they did, that's the term.
• 37:04
  don't think the field dimension would, could, although maybe now that the field dimensions will be smaller, you might be able to the field in there.
• 37:14
  I'm surprised that they Rogers and MLSE he didn't go that route.
• 37:19
  The problem with Regina has always been talked about is a lack of hotel rooms.
• 37:25
  There's just not enough hotel rooms in this that size of city to accommodate the number of people that come in for the game.
• 37:32
  And so you end up with people renting their RVs and renting their apartments, et cetera, et cetera.
• 37:38
  So, and maybe that's okay.
• 37:40
  in Regina this year when there was a music festival and the stampedeers had to stay an extra night and there was no rooms for them.
• 37:49
  No, although I will say this moving the season ahead a week in twenty seven should really make that a lot better because part of the reason they run into so much trouble with the
• 37:59
  Grey Cup is it always matches up the same weekend as the winter exhibition, the winter fair in Regina.
• 38:05
  And that takes up all the rooms pretty much on its own.
• 38:09
  So by going ahead a week, they may move out of that and get.
• 38:14
  Have more space.
• 38:15
  Oh.
• 38:16
  But then I don't know, then there's also, like I don't understand, like they told Calgary they would never get another great cup without a new stadium and they have great cup next
• 38:23
  year.
• 38:23
  So who knows what's happening in the bidding process.
• 38:27
  Yes.
• 38:28
  Remember CFL equals chaos.
• 38:30
  Don't try to...
• 38:32
  logic need not be applied here.
• 38:34
  Alrighty.
• 38:35
  that's that.
• 38:36
  We got one last or well two last bits, but one you this is...
• 38:41
  Oh, sorry.
• 38:41
  Go
• 38:41
  only because we're talking about Grey Cup in 2027, I was going through looking for some music to play the other day when I was just doing something and I needed music in the
• 38:55
  background.
• 38:55
  So I was looking around and look what I found.
• 38:58
  ho!
• 38:59
  Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
• 39:02
  You have such great memorabilia, I gotta say!
• 39:05
  Yep.
• 39:06
  The black eyed peas.
• 39:08
  the Black Eyed Peas official 2005 Grey Cup after party mix CD sponsored by Best Buy and it's a combination of a whole bunch of different stuff.
• 39:22
  It's got the Grey Cup logo, it's got the CFL logo of the time.
• 39:26
  It's all there.
• 39:27
  It's indoor.
• 39:28
  It's all logos on the inside.
• 39:30
  It's pretty good.
• 39:32
  It's pretty good.
• 39:33
  is, yeah.
• 39:34
  And I thought they did a good Grey Cup.
• 39:36
  I thought the peas put on one of the better shows for the Grey Cup.
• 39:41
  Sheenka and Kelly didn't even post that he was playing Grey Cup on his Instagram and then here's the black eyed peas with their Grey Cup after party CD.
• 39:49
  oh
• 39:51
  of the things that a lot of people don't know or remember, one or the other, depending on how you look at it, is that one of the members of Black Eyed Peas, I'm trying to think
• 40:02
  it's Will.i.am, his cousin was actually a member of the Ottawa Renegades.
• 40:10
  So he had a CFL connection personally as well So that's another little tidbit about that.
• 40:19
  Anyways, thought it was cute and I thought I had to show it off.
• 40:24
  uh Thank you.
• 40:25
  I like that.
• 40:26
  So we'll go back to the game plan though, because we have something tangentially attached to the CFL in football.
• 40:33
  That's some Mike Morale news, you were saying, MJ.
• 40:36
  Yes, this is like my hot tea for the week and we can speculate as we want but Mike Morelli has announced last week that he is stepping down as the commissioner for the CEBL, which
• 40:48
  is the Canadian Elite Basketball League.
• 40:50
  He has been there for eight years.
• 40:51
  He started that league and they have nine teams and they are doing a pretty good business and
• 40:59
  So yeah, he's stepping down and so I'm wondering if he's stepping back into a CFL role maybe.
• 41:05
  Yeah.
• 41:05
  Might be nice,
• 41:07
  I wish.
• 41:08
  Yeah, well, I'd put his name forward, if you remember back when we talked about possible commissioners, and I thought he would make a great commissioner.
• 41:16
  I'm not sure what else he would come into the league as.
• 41:19
  Maybe come in as chief marketing officer or something would be terrific because he's done a great job, as you said, MJ, of growing that CEBL very quickly and really attracting a
• 41:30
  young, enthusiastic audience.
• 41:32
  but I don't know what else he would come into, you know, as assistant commissioner.
• 41:37
  I don't know something else.
• 41:38
  A commissioner with, you know, his head on, you know.
• 41:42
  I don't know.
• 41:47
  Well, that was kind of the other...
• 41:49
  That's okay.
• 41:51
  That's okay.
• 41:53
  No, the other thing with it for me is frankly,
• 41:55
  him.
• 41:56
  I don't know him as a person.
• 41:57
  I just know what I've seen from him in public and his reputation and that, but I don't know that he would fit in with this group that's got the CFL running right now.
• 42:05
  I get the feeling he's a slightly more transparent and open communicator than what we're seeing from the CFL by any means.
• 42:17
  Maybe when the new rules crash and burn and they suddenly realize they have to backtrack in a hurry, Mike will finally get his chance to be a commissioner in the CFL.
• 42:29
  Alrighty.
• 42:31
  they've announced the team nominees for the...
• 42:34
  I think it is five awards in the league so don't want to take too long on this.
• 42:37
  I'm just gonna run through each of the awards what the nine nominees are and then we'll have a quick talk or not.
• 42:44
  anybody feels like there's anybody in the list that was missed that there should be a different nominee for the team
• 42:52
  we can talk about that.
• 42:53
  Or if you feel like predicting divisional winners or even who's going to win in the end.
• 42:58
  So you'll have to pay attention as I read them off here.
• 43:01
  We're starting with the outstanding rookie, which I'm going west to east on here.
• 43:06
  So BC Robert Carter Jr.
• 43:09
  Edmonton, Chaleen Garns.
• 43:11
  I think that's how you pronounce the first name anyway.
• 43:13
  Garns who was the safety there with them.
• 43:15
  Calgary, Chris Fortin, Saskatchewan, Peyton Collins.
• 43:19
  Winnipeg, Trey Vival, Hamilton, Devin Varisuk, Toronto, Derek Sluka, hey I even learned to pronounce his name by the end of the season, Ottawa, Keelan White, and Montreal, Travis
• 43:32
  Thies
• 43:32
  So any thoughts on who's gonna be the Rookie of the Year or is there anybody that should have been in there that didn't get mentioned?
• 43:38
  Well, I think it's going to come down in the West.
• 43:41
  It's interesting, both Saskatchewan and Calgary nominated offensive linemen.
• 43:46
  I thought, you know, I think it's going to come down in the West to either Robert Carter Jr.
• 43:53
  or Vavil.
• 43:54
  I but I believe it's going to end up being Robert Carter Jr.
• 43:57
  And then he'll be going up against, in my opinion, Verasek in the
• 44:01
  in the East because he's gotten all the love this year as the guy.
• 44:07
  So yeah, that's what it's going to be.
• 44:08
  And then it's going to be interesting to see which way the voters are swayed because yeah, think it'll be, that's a tough choice.
• 44:16
  That's a tough choice.
• 44:18
  are to my two choices as well out of that list.
• 44:22
  would agree with everything you say.
• 44:24
  Well, no, I wouldn't.
• 44:25
  I'd agree with most of what you say.
• 44:27
  I don't think it'll be Carter out of the West.
• 44:29
  I think it'll be Vavel just because of the number of kick returns he's had.
• 44:33
  Carter had that fantastic interception.
• 44:36
  Yes, he did, but...
• 44:37
  get up on a guy like Carter did this week against Aju Aju and just like sprung up and took that ball away?
• 44:45
  I mean, come on.
• 44:47
  And besides, he's gonna win special teams player, so he won't win too.
• 44:51
  That's the difference.
• 44:53
  That's the difference.
• 44:54
  of the big returns will take it to him.
• 44:56
  But anyway, that's good.
• 44:58
  We got the, like we say, agreement is bad radio.
• 45:01
  So let's go to that special teams player.
• 45:03
  Lots of kickers, some returners and one or two cover guys.
• 45:07
  So BC, we had Sean White, Javon Leake in Edmonton, Mark Vasset in Calgary, who I believe is a cover guy, isn't he?
• 45:15
  Yeah.
• 45:15
  Saskatchewan.
• 45:17
  he's a punter?
• 45:18
  oh Okay.
• 45:19
  Yeah.
• 45:20
  Okay, yeah, I'm not, whoa, okay.
• 45:23
  Anyway, Saskatchewan, Nick Wiebe, who is a cover guy.
• 45:25
  Winnipeg was Trey Vavel Hamilton, Mark Legio, Toronto, Leram Haralahu, Ottawa was Khalil Pimbleton, and Montreal was Jose Maltos Diaz.
• 45:38
  So I think it's going to be Vavil versus Diaz and Vavil wins.
• 45:41
  I'm going to say, I think it'll be Vavil, but I think Vassit's just had an exceptional season, but I think it's going to be Vavil and Diaz, and I hope Diaz wins.
• 45:51
  He just tied their, he's broken their field goal record this year for the Alouettes.
• 45:58
  And was marching his way towards the league record before he ran out of time.
• 46:03
  Yes, exactly.
• 46:04
  And it will make your son very happy when he wins.
• 46:08
  Okay, so let's talk about the linemen then.
• 46:10
  B.C.
• 46:11
  Gerald Broxton Edmonton David Beard, Calgary Zach Williams, Saskatchewan Jamarcus Hardrick, Winnipeg Stanley Bryant, Hamilton Brandon Revenburg
• 46:23
  Toronto, Peter Nicastro, Ottawa, Dino Boyd, and Montreal, Justin Lawrence.
• 46:29
  I think it's going to be Hardrick versus Ravenberg and Hardrick will win just because he's a rider, number one.
• 46:36
  Number two, he's coming off an injury.
• 46:39
  Number three, he's never won it.
• 46:40
  He's always been overshadowed by Stanley Bryant.
• 46:43
  Number four, just, that's the way the press goes.
• 46:52
  I think he's the shoe in of all the shoe ins.
• 46:57
  I think it's gonna be hard to reckon, but I want to win.
• 47:01
  Yes.
• 47:01
  Yeah.
• 47:02
  I can see that, but I have to agree with GT.
• 47:04
  I think that one's an easy one.
• 47:05
  And yeah, it will be.
• 47:07
  don't know how many years you have left.
• 47:08
  You've, you've earned this cumulatively.
• 47:11
  So then that takes us up to the last three of the good ones.
• 47:15
  Now the, the most outstanding defensive player BC is Matthew Betts Edmonton is Cordell Jackson.
• 47:23
  Calgary is Clarence Hicks.
• 47:25
  Saskatchewan is Jamiro Thurman.
• 47:28
  Winnipeg is Evan Holm, Hamilton is Julian Hauser, Toronto is Cameron Judge, Ottawa is Jovan Santos Knox, and Montreal, Isaac Adeyama Bergland.
• 47:39
  Now I will say here on the Calgary one, I know the three down guys were, I think it was them.
• 47:48
  think all these podcasts were rolled together, but they were very unimpressed that it went to, uh
• 47:55
  to Hicks rather than Hutchins.
• 47:57
  I was surprised, I wasn't unimpressed, but I was surprised that it wasn't Hutchins.
• 48:03
  that was the most surprising nomination of all the nominations.
• 48:07
  And as I went through them, that was like, really?
• 48:09
  Why?
• 48:09
  Well, that's kind of odd.
• 48:11
  I thought it was a naturally gonna be Hutchins.
• 48:13
  oh I still think Betts is gonna win it again for the reasons I talked about Hardrick.
• 48:18
  Number one, he's...
• 48:19
  He's recognizable.
• 48:21
  Number two, It's recency bias.
• 48:23
  Number three, he's put up all these gaudy numbers.
• 48:25
  And number four, he's Canadian.
• 48:27
  And then think he's, going to be the West nominee because none of the other guys, I don't think have been, can outlast all those things in his favor.
• 48:37
  And then in the West, in the East, it'll be Berglund for the same reason.
• 48:41
  and I think Betz wins it again because at some point in time, I find that these voters don't watch that much football and they just vote for the name they recognize.
• 48:53
  It's like going to vote for your alderman.
• 48:56
  You don't know who any of these people are.
• 48:57
  You just go vote for the guy that's either the incumbent or the name you recognize the most.
• 49:02
  Any thoughts, MJ?
• 49:04
  Well, Matthew Betts will be the wist, I...
• 49:07
  Hauser has more socks than bur-
• 49:10
  I agree.
• 49:11
  I think he's outplayed him, so he should be, but I think you're right, I don't think he will be.
• 49:16
  that.
• 49:18
  how's there would be the comeback to how's there would be my comeback player of the year if there was an award, which I think there should be.
• 49:25
  Yeah.
• 49:25
  And, and see, if I was voting on it, I would say that there's probably over half this list I'd put above Matthew Betts.
• 49:34
  And that's only because he's had a half of a great season.
• 49:37
  He has had the best second half of a season that, we've seen in a long time, but he didn't do anything in the first half.
• 49:44
  Whereas there's a lot of other guys, a lot of other guys on this list that aren't making the flash sacks necessarily, but have been solid, consistent, very good players.
• 49:54
  all the way through.
• 49:56
  I'd have trouble picking out any of the linebackers that I don't think should be below bets, because all of the ones that they have for linebackers on here have been relatively
• 50:07
  healthy through most of the season, have played well, But I agree with you.
• 50:11
  He'll get it because he's Canadian,
• 50:14
  People won't think about the first half of the season.
• 50:16
  They'll think about, look at how he's torn up the last six games.
• 50:21
  yeah.
• 50:21
  Okay.
• 50:22
  So not a lot of, at least we think we know what the reporters are going to do.
• 50:26
  We're all in agreement on that.
• 50:28
  So two to go.
• 50:29
  The Canadian one, guess who out of BC?
• 50:32
  Kid Cannon.
• 50:35
  They changed his name from Kid Canada to Kid Cannon apparently or something.
• 50:39
  I don't know.
• 50:40
  But anyway, yeah, Nathan Rourke for BC.
• 50:42
  Joel DeBlanco in Edmonton, Calgary is Jalen Philpott, Saskatchewan is AJ Allen, Winnipeg is Brady Olivera, Hamilton is Mark Legio, Toronto is Kevin Mitell, Ottawa is Daniel
• 50:57
  Adamaboya and Montreal is again Isaac Adeyem in Berglund, which I think is ridiculous.
• 51:03
  If nothing else, you should have both Philpott's competing in the Canadian award.
• 51:06
  the Philpotts are going they both have been injured this year.
• 51:09
  Yeah, I was a little surprised that this was the Canadian nominee out of Calgary as well.
• 51:15
  I don't know who else it would have been, but I was surprised that Phil Pot was the guy.
• 51:21
  Again, and I think that's people that are just picking a name, you know, that they're not, the writers that aren't following the league and aren't following the Stampeders really
• 51:31
  closely didn't know who...
• 51:33
  the other players were that were Canadian on the list or what.
• 51:36
  Philpott, that's a recognizable name, you know?
• 51:40
  Yeah, like Mark Leggio's had a great season, like let's be honest, everyone's gonna vote for Nathan.
• 51:46
  this is again, this is the biggest, we talked about shoe ins No, this is a slam dunk.
• 51:52
  This is like Nathan's award.
• 51:55
  definitely, but my question is no disrespect to kickers.
• 51:59
  Kickers face a lot of pressure and if you can get really good at it, you're a big help to the team.
• 52:04
  But when you're going to a kicker on a most valuable Canadian or player award, I think you're scratching deep.
• 52:11
  And how do you pick Legio on a team that's got Keandre Smith and Katsantonis on it?
• 52:16
  Well, Cass and Tonis was injured.
• 52:19
  So maybe they didn't, but maybe that's, well, maybe some teams are playing more by the rules than other teams.
• 52:27
  I
• 52:27
  Or Smith, he was over a thousand yards this year.
• 52:30
  personally, I think the finalists are going to be at Amherst-Bergland out of Montreal and Nathan and Nathan will walk away with it.
• 52:37
  I think that if it wasn't for the fact that Nathan was in there and
• 52:41
  Isaac's been getting so much of the pump up about the being the Canadian on the starter on the D line I really think that the maybe this is a bit of a Homer bias on my part, but I
• 52:51
  think the two finalists should be AJ Allen out of Saskatchewan and Kevin Mitell out of Toronto.
• 52:57
  I think they've both had absolutely fantastic seasons, but again, they're not necessarily the flashiest, so they don't get noticed quite as much.
• 53:06
  But I can tell you that part of my opinion is sort of swayed by the fact that
• 53:10
  uh who knows if it's just the humble brag or what but i have been told that when jamer thurman was told he was the defensive nominee he said what what about aj he should be it
• 53:22
  so and he plays right beside him anyway last one the big one the george reed most outstanding player and i think this one will probably be a slam dunk again too just
• 53:31
  because but bc is nathan roark edmonton's justin rankin
• 53:36
  Calgary's Diedrich Mills, Saskatchewan's Trevor Harris, Winnipeg's Brady Olivera, Hamilton's Bo Levi Mitchell, Toronto's Nick Arbuckle, Ottawa's Khalil Pimpleton, and
• 53:48
  Montreal's Davis Alexander.
• 53:49
  Yeah, it should be Bo versus Nathan.
• 53:58
  And it's probably going to be Nathan again, I would assume.
• 54:02
  Shame on any of you who put up a person who was on a six game injured list.
• 54:08
  That's ridiculous.
• 54:10
  Anyway, carrying on.
• 54:13
  Well, Davis is on there.
• 54:15
  yeah, he is, yeah, and he was out for, you're right.
• 54:17
  oh Yeah.
• 54:21
  Yeah, I suppose so.
• 54:23
  Nathan.
• 54:23
  Everyone else was just like.
• 54:25
  fodder.
• 54:26
  that.
• 54:27
  Yeah, that could be.
• 54:29
  Alright, so anyway, so that's it and we'll maybe jump ahead so that we don't get too long here and just do some quick recaps on the games.
• 54:36
  the first one was Hamilton needed to win to get for their first place locked in on the last week of the season and they did by 20 points.
• 54:45
  Hamilton 35, Ottawa 15.
• 54:49
  Gonna take this MJ.
• 54:51
  yes, I did watch most of this game until Blue Jays started.
• 54:56
  Guys, I'm worried about the Ticats.
• 55:01
  This game wasn't even that close.
• 55:03
  It seems like this is a high score, but it really wasn't.
• 55:08
  Let's see, what's going on?
• 55:09
  Leguio kicked seven field goals.
• 55:13
  Seven field goals in this game.
• 55:15
  They couldn't even get near the red zone.
• 55:19
  I am worried, I'm worried.
• 55:21
  My TSN shady moment, because this is one I tried to rewatch.
• 55:25
  And TSN highlight was Tim White doing his 6-7 TD celebration.
• 55:31
  And that was it for the highlights for this game.
• 55:34
  And so I had to go to the CFL website to actually find highlights, but I'm like, TSN do better.
• 55:41
  Let's see, Stanbek got a touchdown.
• 55:43
  I was sure that Condell forgot he played on the team, but no, he got a touchdown.
• 55:49
  That was exciting for the Red Blacks.
• 55:51
  I'll just say one more Ti-cat thing before I go and talk about the Red Blacks because what this happened was ridiculous.
• 55:56
  Reggie got an interception and he threw a really nice lateral to Kastantonis to keep it going.
• 56:03
  So that was really nice.
• 56:05
  I enjoyed that a lot.
• 56:06
  Tyree Adams was looking pretty good.
• 56:09
  He was looking pretty good and then they came out and it's like they were playing.
• 56:15
  guys, Schiltz isn't going to be on the team anymore.
• 56:18
  He got transferred to a different city so he's always wanted to play goal so we're just going to let him play goal for the rest of the game.
• 56:25
  What?
• 56:26
  Are you a serious professional team?
• 56:29
  Or are you?
• 56:30
  Because you're not.
• 56:31
  I couldn't-
• 56:32
  Ridiculous so Schiltz went in there and threw a thousand interceptions and the Ti- cats still couldn't do anything with it and just kicked field goals and How embarrassing for
• 56:41
  everyone who had to watch that last half of
• 56:43
  Point is, Thai cats won the division, so they have the bye.
• 56:50
  And the red blacks look ridiculous, and good luck Sean.
• 56:54
  Yes.
• 56:55
  My, had very little notes on this game and basically it was, it's a dang good thing there's going to be at least a partial regime change in Ottawa because they need it.
• 57:04
  That, that were a bunch of players that were, had checked out to me, checked out of the season already.
• 57:11
  players coaches everybody.
• 57:13
  like you said, Schultz, why?
• 57:14
  just yeah, okay, so you're not gonna be playing, you're retiring.
• 57:17
  This is still a professional football game and you gotta worry about next year and you've got a quarterback who's looking, yeah, I'm like, maybe he's got a chance to perform but
• 57:24
  you don't want another half with him.
• 57:27
  And then the thing that told me that really that they were the most checked out was at the end of the first half.
• 57:33
  They ended up with the ball back in their end, a little bit of time left on the clock,
• 57:38
  they were obviously not going to score they were trying to run the clock down as much as they could to pin Hamilton deep and not give up any more points they get to third and
• 57:48
  whatever it is with the clock running so they can drain the clock down yeah 40 42 seconds left on the clock clocks running third down you can drain it down to 22 seconds when you
• 57:59
  punt and and Hamilton gets the ball back with 15 seconds no time to do anything
• 58:05
  They punt it and Hamilton's got the ball with 35 seconds left.
• 58:09
  They just don't even bother to drain the bloody thing at all.
• 58:11
  Hamilton marches into field goal range and more points.
• 58:15
  You know, it's when it's that basic, that's just that's a team that is not a team anymore.
• 58:20
  Give us our paycheck and go home.
• 58:22
  Yeah, the highlight of the night was definitely the interview with Adams at halftime.
• 58:25
  When everybody was like, whoa, did he just say that Schiltz is retiring?
• 58:30
  Because no one seemed to know that until he said that.
• 58:33
  And when he said, yeah, I'm not coming back in Schiltz is retiring.
• 58:36
  So they're giving him the second half.
• 58:38
  And it was hilarious to look on everyone's faces, including mine in the the basement.
• 58:43
  It was like, well, he just said that.
• 58:45
  So it was pretty funny.
• 58:47
  because I'm sure he was furious and so he's like, you know what?
• 58:51
  Fine.
• 58:53
  Like, here you go.
• 58:54
  Yeah.
• 58:55
  Yeah.
• 58:55
  And he showed enough, I think, that he'll get a job somewhere next year.
• 58:59
  he's going to get a chance to get a job somewhere next year between that game and a half, because I think he showed enough.
• 59:04
  He threw a couple of bad interceptions, but he also threw a couple of nice balls.
• 59:08
  And everybody knows that it was, you know, that he can play again, at least, right?
• 59:12
  So that he, I think there will be some team that gives him a shot next year somewhere.
• 59:17
  The other thing was, know, yeah, TSN shade on Dyce when there was the interception one of the interceptions by Schilt and it was like Dyce on the sidelines and he just had that
• 59:26
  look about him like, yeah, that's over.
• 59:30
  That's it.
• 59:30
  I'm done.
• 59:31
  to know that he knew that he was getting fired, And then he's like, just like no F's, right?
• 59:37
  Yeah, let Schiltz play.
• 59:39
  Yeah, let Tyree like take the heat on this interview.
• 59:42
  Yeah, I don't care what we're doing.
• 59:44
  Like just what a terrible how those fans I am so sorry, red, black fans.
• 59:51
  You deserve so much better than how that game went.
• 59:55
  Like at least try.
• 59:57
  Come on, like just go out like at least pretending to care.
• 1:00:01
  Like that was just awful.
• 1:00:03
  And you went, Hamilton fans had to sit and watch that too.
• 1:00:07
  Like.
• 1:00:08
  the stuff with Schiltz, I was waiting for it to be, well, you know, Jacob Ruby always wanted to play running back.
• 1:00:13
  Let's give him a few series there.
• 1:00:15
  Dyce's dog is gonna suit up for kick returns.
• 1:00:19
  Like it just, like what?
• 1:00:22
  The other good thing, I will give one positive review of the game, Late in the game there was a fumble that was reviewed and the receiver, I think it was Hardy, where he rolled
• 1:00:37
  over and his foot was down and they said that his foot was down as he rolled onto the side of his foot.
• 1:00:43
  So it wasn't a fumble, so therefore Ottawa got the ball back.
• 1:00:47
  And then at the same time, but it took forever to figure it all out and lost in that there was some penalty against Hamilton as well.
• 1:00:55
  Ottawa ended up with the ball at the one yard line and then they scored.
• 1:00:59
  But then TSN went back and showed why the penalty happened and how it happened.
• 1:01:05
  And I thought that was actually really good broadcasting.
• 1:01:09
  that was one of the very few examples I will say that I've seen where TSN has done a terrific job of finding a replay, showing and then explaining what that meant to the
• 1:01:22
  previous play and why that happened.
• 1:01:25
  So I just thought, yeah, that was, again, really good broadcasting and we don't get it often enough.
• 1:01:32
  that was Paula police, right?
• 1:01:34
  That was lapel.
• 1:01:34
  That was, yeah.
• 1:01:36
  So yeah, exactly.
• 1:01:37
  and was the play where the player interfered with the ref, right?
• 1:01:41
  On the sidelines?
• 1:01:42
  Yeah.
• 1:01:42
  That's what I was thinking.
• 1:01:43
  I think that that was a good call from the command center on that, on what they called the non-fumble They certainly did not do quite as impressive through some of the rest of the
• 1:01:52
  weekend, but we'll get to that.
• 1:01:54
  And speaking of which, I'm going to move on to the game.
• 1:01:58
  One of the games that was at least
• 1:02:00
  somewhat entertaining and worth watching.
• 1:02:02
  were two that I thought were, could hold my interest a bit.
• 1:02:05
  And this next one was one, Calgary needed this to keep themselves possibly out of fourth place in the crossover.
• 1:02:12
  They had a chance at the uh second place, depending on how the game the next day went.
• 1:02:16
  Then they, they did what they needed.
• 1:02:18
  20 for Calgary, 10 for Edmonton, but a little closer than the score sounds.
• 1:02:23
  You're going to run us through the basics.
• 1:02:26
  GT.
• 1:02:27
  Yeah, basically, I don't agree.
• 1:02:29
  I don't necessarily agree with you that it was a little closer than the score sounds.
• 1:02:32
  think it was the it was wider open than the score sounds.
• 1:02:35
  I think the score flattered Edmonton, to be honest with you.
• 1:02:38
  but I don't I just wasn't a very good game because Calgary did not look good, in my opinion, like you were worried about Hamilton, MJ.
• 1:02:46
  I'm worried about Calgary.
• 1:02:47
  I didn't think they the offense looked that good at all.
• 1:02:49
  They had plenty of opportunities within the red zone.
• 1:02:53
  and didn't score.
• 1:02:53
  came away, they made decisions where they didn't score, like a third and three or something and went for it and then called a horrible play that looked horrible and didn't
• 1:03:04
  get in for it and got a turnover.
• 1:03:06
  They settled for two field goals where they should have went for it on third and ones within the 10 yard line.
• 1:03:12
  They just, wasn't, they looked like they were not playing to lose, but not playing to win either.
• 1:03:19
  They weren't aggressive enough.
• 1:03:20
  And it was only because
• 1:03:22
  their defense again held Rankin into 36 yards or something like that beyond the one big one that he got.
• 1:03:31
  So it wasn't...
• 1:03:33
  nine carries for one yard rushing and 46 yards receiving.
• 1:03:38
  So it wasn't, yeah.
• 1:03:40
  And there was one play where they just came in and Markow Lee just crunched them in five yards deep.
• 1:03:46
  it was on, that was a turnover on downs for Calgary.
• 1:03:49
  So yeah, they, they held him in check.
• 1:03:51
  And again, it shows that if he's in check, Fajardo can't win that game by himself.
• 1:03:56
  He just can't, he doesn't have the receiver depth.
• 1:03:59
  And I don't think he has the arm to do it anymore.
• 1:04:01
  So there was all,
• 1:04:03
  There was all of that.
• 1:04:04
  I was surprised that both, I was surprised that both, um, for Jardo and, uh, VA were played the entire game.
• 1:04:13
  Like, but that says something about where the score is, I think, but I was surprised that they were both playing at in the fourth quarter.
• 1:04:20
  I don't know why they were.
• 1:04:21
  I don't know why they were either one of them.
• 1:04:23
  at least Calgary has something to play for.
• 1:04:25
  There is no reason for Cody to play this whole game.
• 1:04:28
  Aren't you like looking at some other guy?
• 1:04:30
  What...
• 1:04:30
  Okay, you're not gonna play Tre It is very obvious you're not gonna play Tre but what's...
• 1:04:35
  what's other guy doing?
• 1:04:37
  No name guy we don't even know about.
• 1:04:40
  But...
• 1:04:40
  but like why is he not getting at least some reps?
• 1:04:45
  Trey was listed as the official number three for that game.
• 1:04:49
  there's that.
• 1:04:49
  And the reason that I said that to me it was closer than what the score indicates is that there was the play that you haven't talked about yet with Rankin on the goal line where an
• 1:05:00
  inch further along and it would have been a seven points more for Edmonton.
• 1:05:05
  Well, I was going to get I was going to talk about that play because because it was like when that happened, when it happened initially, I wrote down and I said, wow, what a great
• 1:05:16
  play by Rankin.
• 1:05:17
  He's done it again.
• 1:05:18
  He's done it again.
• 1:05:19
  I mean, that was tremendous.
• 1:05:21
  He got a three yard pass and took it 38 yards or something to the end zone.
• 1:05:25
  And as you said earlier, when he gets a bit of sliver of space, he can motor and he can juke too, because he had some moves in the middle of the field that was amazing.
• 1:05:34
  However, it was an equally amazing play by Devine Bailey Scott.
• 1:05:39
  Like, to come back to, talk about not giving up on plays earlier in the season, Oldman when you've talked about that.
• 1:05:45
  That's the perfect example of not giving up twice by two different Calgary defenders.
• 1:05:51
  One, for Devine Bailey Scott.
• 1:05:53
  to knock it away, and two, for Robinson or whoever the defender was or the DB to come back and pick the ball up, to have the scent, to know that Edmonton's over there doing their
• 1:06:06
  party dance.
• 1:06:07
  And in the meantime, that's a live ball.
• 1:06:10
  And I don't care what they say, that's a legitimate play.
• 1:06:14
  That was not a controversial play.
• 1:06:17
  Edmonton buggered that up.
• 1:06:19
  they all they had to do was touch that ball and he should have known that that got knocked out of his hands.
• 1:06:26
  Yeah.
• 1:06:27
  Rankin should...
• 1:06:28
  even if he didn't think it did and it fumbled, he should have ran in there and touched it.
• 1:06:34
  There's no reason.
• 1:06:35
  He was too busy showboating.
• 1:06:37
  right.
• 1:06:37
  100 percent.
• 1:06:38
  that's not.
• 1:06:39
  And some people say it has to be a clear and immediate pickup.
• 1:06:42
  Well, from how far away?
• 1:06:44
  The DB sought and came.
• 1:06:46
  Now, if he was 25 or 35 yards away, it takes four or five seconds or more to get down there.
• 1:06:52
  So he did it.
• 1:06:53
  It's not like the play was whistled or anything.
• 1:06:56
  It was called.
• 1:06:57
  So it was it was a live ball.
• 1:06:59
  It was perfectly legit.
• 1:07:01
  There was no controversy in that in my mind at all.
• 1:07:04
  At all.
• 1:07:04
  See, the only thing I would say that is I have seen plays not called fumble recoveries when teams have jumped on them quicker than that.
• 1:07:15
  Yes, he was a long way away from it, but it was, there was a three or four second gap between the fumble and anybody touching it.
• 1:07:22
  And that's, if you're not in position, it's not your fault, but that's not a immediate recovery to my mind.
• 1:07:27
  And like I said, I have seen them blow it dead saying, no, if you don't...
• 1:07:32
  react and jump on it right away.
• 1:07:34
  there's nobody there to react.
• 1:07:36
  There was no, that's the thing is that it's clear and immediate, but from how far do you have to be within five yards to be immediate?
• 1:07:44
  Do you have to be beside the ball to be immediate?
• 1:07:47
  No, you just have to make them immediate.
• 1:07:49
  You have to, no, you have to immediately make a play for the ball, which is what he did.
• 1:07:53
  immediately, the fact that he's further away to me is irrelevant.
• 1:07:57
  And basically it's the exact
• 1:08:00
  opposite play that we will discuss in the Saskatchewan game where the whistle was blown inadvertently and shouldn't have been in this one the whistle wasn't blown and it
• 1:08:09
  shouldn't have been because the ball had never been touched it was to me it was a legitimate call.
• 1:08:14
  Yeah, I don't disagree that they should have let it go, but I just, like I said, based on the precedents I've seen in this league in the past on that rule over the last three or
• 1:08:24
  four years, I have seen players called that it wasn't an immediate recovery because they've had to run a distance to get to it.
• 1:08:32
  And that was pretty clearly the case in there.
• 1:08:36
  Well, year precedence don't, precedence don't apply this year.
• 1:08:41
  That's also true.
• 1:08:43
  That's also true.
• 1:08:44
  And I mean, the thing is in the end, it depends how you look at it.
• 1:08:48
  I think from just how the rules been interpreted, that that should have been a dead ball in the end zone with whatever it was, probably Edmonton on the one yard line.
• 1:09:01
  But if you're looking at actually rewarding the players that are playing well, then yeah, the right call was made because
• 1:09:09
  As you said, Rankin was right there.
• 1:09:11
  He started to go towards it and then changed his mind.
• 1:09:14
  A bunch of other Edmonton players came and did it.
• 1:09:16
  So it was heads up from the Calgary defender to get in there and do it.
• 1:09:20
  even like it.
• 1:09:21
  Yeah, it wasn't just Rankin standing there.
• 1:09:23
  There three other guys came over and started to dance.
• 1:09:25
  So, I mean, come on.
• 1:09:27
  Like, none of them thought of it.
• 1:09:29
  They're all at fault.
• 1:09:31
  Yes.
• 1:09:32
  So I agree that it's a good call based on the effort, but sometimes calls aren't based on the effort, whether they should be or not.
• 1:09:41
  Anyway, good enough with that.
• 1:09:42
  Anything else to talk about with this one?
• 1:09:45
  Yes, I just want to say a couple things.
• 1:09:47
  One, neither team wanted to play.
• 1:09:49
  They were showing the Blue Jays game on the Jumbotron there at the game.
• 1:09:53
  And I'm pretty sure all the players were watching the Blue Jays game and not actually playing football.
• 1:09:59
  The Elks scored one field goal and one touchdown in the third quarter.
• 1:10:02
  They did not score in the first, second, or fourth.
• 1:10:04
  Calgary scored one touchdown in the first quarter, then four field goals, and there was...
• 1:10:08
  The only scoring in the fourth was a rouge.
• 1:10:11
  Who wants to sit and watch that?
• 1:10:13
  That's terrible.
• 1:10:14
  That is terrible football.
• 1:10:15
  Yeah, so I'm glad they had the Blue Jays game up there for everyone to watch.
• 1:10:20
  I wasn't saying it was a great game when I said it was one of the better two of the weekend.
• 1:10:24
  None of them were really great, but this was at least, like I said, I was spending some time going, gee, I wonder what's going to happen next.
• 1:10:31
  Rather than, we're only in the third, damn.
• 1:10:33
  Anyway, yeah, the only other note that I had on it was one here for you, m in case you didn't throw up your traditional TSN shade.
• 1:10:42
  how they have locked in on Rankin after that fumble.
• 1:10:45
  my, they're trying not to cry frankly.
• 1:10:49
  It serves him right.
• 1:10:50
  It serves him right.
• 1:10:51
  You play like he should have jumped on that ball.
• 1:10:54
  There's no reason for that.
• 1:10:56
  That was such, I don't even want to call it a rookie mistake because he's not and that was just a complete lapse of judgment and that was just showboating over playing for your team
• 1:11:05
  and that was selfish.
• 1:11:07
  But it's funny, you know, and again, I don't know, maybe it's just me, but it's funny how some things about team identities just remain over several coaches, several GMs, It seems
• 1:11:20
  like there's, some kind of trend that happens and sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad.
• 1:11:25
  And with Edmonton it is, they seem to sometimes just around the kicking game like that lose track of what's going on.
• 1:11:32
  I'm reminded.
• 1:11:33
  I think it was two years ago when they were playing in Edmonton against Saskatchewan, a tied game with like 30 seconds left and the kick returner lets the kickoff bounce into the
• 1:11:43
  end zone and takes a knee to give Saskatchewan a point.
• 1:11:45
  know, again, just bonehead plays it and that seems to be part of what they do.
• 1:11:51
  They have a special teams coordinator as their head coach.
• 1:11:54
  There's really no excuse anymore.
• 1:11:58
  No.
• 1:11:58
  Alright, so then we'll talk about quickly here about Montreal 10 Winnipeg 19.
• 1:12:04
  Anybody want to talk about this?
• 1:12:05
  I've got a total of three notes, so...
• 1:12:09
  Uh, well, I got three notes.
• 1:12:13
  Yeah, I think so.
• 1:12:14
  Okay, will you give me your three and, or do you want to start him too?
• 1:12:17
  notes.
• 1:12:18
  three notes, which we've already talked about Strevler.
• 1:12:20
  So that's note number one.
• 1:12:22
  Note number two was, so Strevler injured first drive, Wilson in, MBT terrible all game.
• 1:12:29
  That was a second note.
• 1:12:31
  Duguay and Ento De Qua and Ento both dropped sure interceptions in the first half, which would have given Montreal a wide open lead, which they would have probably wouldn't have
• 1:12:43
  recovered from.
• 1:12:44
  And then they got...
• 1:12:48
  I've got a note that they got a TD, but it looked like it was stopped by Montreal, but then it was ruled a TD Winnipeg recovers a Philpott fumble, takes the ball to the 20.
• 1:13:02
  They get a TD, but it looks like it was stopped by Montreal.
• 1:13:06
  that was the one where it was third and one on the goal line, and they stood them up.
• 1:13:10
  That's what it was.
• 1:13:11
  And it looked like on TV.
• 1:13:13
  This was the first of the
• 1:13:17
  officiating or the second if you consider the Calgary one as well, the second one where you went, wow, that's weird officiating where it looked like that was a touchdown and
• 1:13:28
  Montreal thought they'd stop them.
• 1:13:29
  Bevret was sure that they'd stop them, but they ruled it a touchdown still.
• 1:13:34
  So that was the other one.
• 1:13:36
  Those were my notes.
• 1:13:38
  My note is Maltos which we already said he got his 58 field goals.
• 1:13:43
  That's a record They said after the game that Alexander is a bit nicked up and so we'll see and Scott looks sounds like he's a bit nicked up So those are a little bit.
• 1:13:54
  I'm sure they'll both play this weekend, but that's a little bit worrisome Is this the game?
• 1:14:00
  I want to talk about this and I can't remember game wise.
• 1:14:02
  Is this the game where there was the roughing the kicker call?
• 1:14:07
  Which game was that?
• 1:14:08
  There was a roughing the kicker called that got called this week but didn't get called last week and they were the exact same player.
• 1:14:14
  Was that the?
• 1:14:15
  no, that was the Calgary-Edmonton game.
• 1:14:17
  Okay, so can we just flip back and for a second.
• 1:14:21
  because I know, neither times they were called and both times I thought they should have been because as we discussed last week, I thought anytime you touch the kicker, was
• 1:14:32
  automatic, you know, at least contacting if not roughing.
• 1:14:35
  And on the block punt by Calgary where Brady Breeze, great name, Brady Breeze got his second block in two games in a row.
• 1:14:43
  He definitely went into the kicker in Edmonton at the same time.
• 1:14:47
  And so I was surprised again that there was no call on that, just like last week there was no call on.
• 1:14:53
  um This is my public service announcement to the CFL.
• 1:14:57
  Dear CFL, please spend some money, just a bit of money, and at least the head officials need to not be working other jobs.
• 1:15:09
  This is enough.
• 1:15:10
  This is enough.
• 1:15:11
  I am so between this and the replay center with Al Bradbury in there and Fox Whatever's guy and this nonsense.
• 1:15:17
  Like these guys need to be, these people, not even guys, these people need to be being paid.
• 1:15:22
  So they're not trying to like shut, like take their whistle out and then like grab a laptop and start working at their other job because it's not working.
• 1:15:32
  It's not working.
• 1:15:34
  And again, if the league's not willing to spend the money, there's a reason why you don't necessarily grow the game.
• 1:15:43
  Did you have anything else?
• 1:15:44
  that this was embarrassing.
• 1:15:47
  This was really bad.
• 1:15:48
  And McCloud Bethel looks awful.
• 1:15:51
  And if anything happens to Alexander this weekend, they are done.
• 1:15:56
  They're done.
• 1:15:56
  Because the Bombers did this with Wilson.
• 1:15:59
  They beat them with Wilson versus McCloud Bethel Thompson.
• 1:16:02
  And so I think if there's any issues with Alexander, the Alouettes are total.
• 1:16:08
  definitely.
• 1:16:09
  don't think, I think MBT's time in the league is probably done.
• 1:16:13
  Apparently he was throwing his helmet in the locker room after the game.
• 1:16:16
  I heard that too, yes.
• 1:16:17
  Well, I only had, like I said, three points myself.
• 1:16:21
  I said that Wilson looked good coming in off the bench and I was wondering why have they been playing Strevler all along?
• 1:16:28
  And then as the game went on a bit more, I realized, because he started out well, but he also made some...
• 1:16:36
  some very questionable plays.
• 1:16:38
  So he reverted to the norm as, or to the mean as the game went on.
• 1:16:43
  I was really pleased to see at the start of the season that Josh Archibald out of BC signed, signed with Montreal?
• 1:16:49
  I'd hope to see a lot more of him because I think he's good.
• 1:16:52
  And he hasn't been in the rotation that much.
• 1:16:54
  He was this game and got himself a nice sack in the third.
• 1:16:57
  And the last one was just for looking for anything to say about the game.
• 1:17:01
  I've noticed this and I've thought about it just about every time I see Montreal play.
• 1:17:04
  that's that Charleston Rambo seems to be a pretty good receiver and he knows what he's doing out there, but I don't understand how he stands upright.
• 1:17:12
  When he's running, it looks to me like a puppet with no strings.
• 1:17:16
  There's just legs flinging this way and arms this way and it's over here and then it's over there.
• 1:17:20
  He looks like it's a controlled fall that he's doing the entire time he's out there.
• 1:17:25
  but he gets the catches in the yard.
• 1:17:28
  I got nothing else.
• 1:17:29
  Ha ha ha!
• 1:17:31
  Shall we talk the last game?
• 1:17:33
  Okay.
• 1:17:34
  That was, that was BC again, needed the, after Calgary one BC needed to win to get the home playoff game for second place.
• 1:17:43
  came into Saskatchewan and they did win 27-21.
• 1:17:46
  And they, BC pretty much played their starters through the game.
• 1:17:51
  Saskatchewan played their starters through the first quarter and a half and then put the backups in and had a lead at halftime.
• 1:18:00
  But with Maier they unfortunately, he didn't look the worst in the world, but he did throw an interception and he, they left him in for short yardage and he fumbled and just
• 1:18:10
  basically took away their chances to do much more, which is unfortunate I still feel good as a rider fan.
• 1:18:16
  I think most people do because the riders with, with frankly, with as many backups as they could play, Winnipeg needed a walk off field goal to beat them.
• 1:18:24
  And with playing
• 1:18:26
  as many backups as they could through at least a half, maybe a little more than that.
• 1:18:30
  BC still only was up on them by five points.
• 1:18:33
  And that was taking away the points that you started mentioning earlier there, GT, the fact that they should have had another touchdown because weird that this happens two big
• 1:18:44
  games in a row.
• 1:18:46
  The Edmonton game, as you said, uh Bailey Scott.
• 1:18:50
  caught up to him as he was crossing the goal line and punched the ball out just before it crossed the goal line.
• 1:18:55
  This game, BC makes a pass to Keon Hatcher that's kind of high and he goes up and gets it on the goal line and then as he's pulling it down basically traps it on his helmet and
• 1:19:07
  tries to stumble back into the goal line and I think it was Fields comes over the top and slaps the ball out.
• 1:19:14
  gets picked up by Campbell, Trayvon Campbell, who's fairly fast, and he outruns Nathan for a touchdown.
• 1:19:21
  But then we go to review and we find out, no, one of the officials had blown the whistle when he thought that Hatcher was in for the touchdown.
• 1:19:28
  So that's how it goes.
• 1:19:31
  That's what the rules say.
• 1:19:32
  Saskatchewan got the recovery, but on the three yard lines where they recovered it, they couldn't advance it.
• 1:19:37
  It would have been a...
• 1:19:39
  meaningful game it would have bothered me a lot more.
• 1:19:41
  do think that the refs have to try and on those sorts of things if there's any doubt let it go or the other thing again to just because I happened to listen to it last night with
• 1:19:52
  the Three Down Nation they said if they weren't gonna let it go they should have all been blowing up and jumping up and down and blowing their whistles and stopping it right then
• 1:19:59
  so that you wouldn't get the touchdown and the fans pissed off that it gets taken away
• 1:20:04
  There was a, there was a, I can't call it a beautiful play, but there was a very impressive play down towards the Saskatchewan end zone where Rourke was rolling out and
• 1:20:15
  was in the grasp and falling down and he kind of flipped it forward in what looked like a desperation flip, just get it to an empty part of the field and Hatcher came flying in and
• 1:20:24
  got his hands underneath it and caught it for the touchdown, which was quite impressive.
• 1:20:30
  Not so much from Rourke, he kept it alive but the
• 1:20:32
  The Hatcher catch was great.
• 1:20:34
  And I've actually heard in some of the rider circles, I've heard complaints that, well, that ball, the nose of it touched the ground and maybe it was a touchdown or maybe it
• 1:20:44
  wasn't, but the refs owed Saskatvhewan touchdown.
• 1:20:47
  So they shouldn't have called that one.
• 1:20:48
  That should have been overruled too.
• 1:20:50
  And I don't think you can do it that way.
• 1:20:52
  You have to call each play fair as it's supposed to be called.
• 1:20:56
  And I didn't have a problem.
• 1:20:58
  I can say for myself, I didn't have a problem with that.
• 1:21:00
  That looked like a catch to me.
• 1:21:01
  looked like.
• 1:21:02
  He had control, yes the nose's ball touched the ground but his hands were on it and it was tight to his chest.
• 1:21:07
  was just, that was his whole body momentum rolling forward like that.
• 1:21:11
  Any disagreements?
• 1:21:14
  No, that was a legitimate touchdown as far as I was concerned.
• 1:21:18
  And the other one was a complete ripoff from the Riders point of view.
• 1:21:24
  That should have been a touchdown for Tevin Campbell.
• 1:21:26
  They would have won the game.
• 1:21:27
  I'm positive they would have won the game if they had a score at that point.
• 1:21:30
  All the momentum they had.
• 1:21:32
  BC did not play well again for a team that's fighting for a playoff, not only a playoff position, but a crossover and everything else.
• 1:21:40
  I didn't think they looked sharp.
• 1:21:41
  I didn't think they looked like they cared that much.
• 1:21:44
  And Saskatchewan looked terrific.
• 1:21:46
  I think Saskatchewan looked terrific last week and they look better this week.
• 1:21:51
  the comment that Harris made a couple of weeks ago that, you know, the locker room is proven and ready to win.
• 1:21:58
  They don't worry about the buys.
• 1:21:59
  Well, he might be right.
• 1:22:00
  They're looking like they're prepped and ready to roll.
• 1:22:03
  So.
• 1:22:04
  It's going to be tough to beat those guys.
• 1:22:06
  It's going to be real tough to beat the green.
• 1:22:08
  I was impressed by the defensive line.
• 1:22:10
  They were rushing four or sometimes five, but their lane integrity was fantastic.
• 1:22:15
  They were just, they were creating a pocket around Rourke and closing it in.
• 1:22:18
  had, it was very rare that he managed to get out of the pocket which he's so good at they look impressive and Harris for a week off completely.
• 1:22:27
  Look, sharp as a knife.
• 1:22:28
  And he was out there without his three top receivers.
• 1:22:31
  I mean, that's the other thing to think about with that.
• 1:22:33
  They didn't have Myers, Johnson or Amilus in there.
• 1:22:36
  And yet they were still, this is where the depth comes up.
• 1:22:39
  They were still playing five receivers that had played a lot this year.
• 1:22:42
  Six of them, I guess, because they were, they had, were putting Ajou Ajou in.
• 1:22:46
  So yeah, I think personally as a rider fan, feel fair, about as good as you can going into the playoffs at this point.
• 1:22:53
  Who knows what'll happen.
• 1:22:55
  One game at a time, but it feels good.
• 1:22:57
  Anyway, that was sort of my take on it.
• 1:22:59
  Did I cover everything
• 1:23:01
  My only, okay, well one Hughes, he went two for two on field goals, so that was a good debut for him.
• 1:23:08
  And my note just says I didn't expect Saskatchewan to push this hard against BC in this game.
• 1:23:13
  I honestly didn't expect them to play as much.
• 1:23:16
  Yeah, so anyway, good for them because I was watching that game and I was actually quite surprised that they were pushing that hard and I thought they were just gonna kind of let
• 1:23:24
  BC do whatever because who cares, but they came out to play.
• 1:23:29
  every team I've ever heard of coaches and players say, oh, it's one week at a time.
• 1:23:34
  It's one game at a time where we want to go one and this week and every game matters and every game you're going to win.
• 1:23:42
  But I haven't seen too often teams in that sort of situation where they're basically getting ready for a first place game that actually lives up to that.
• 1:23:53
  And that's what impressed me again in both of their last two games.
• 1:23:57
  The talent level came down some without some of the starters in there, but the effort level did not at all.
• 1:24:02
  Alrighty.
• 1:24:02
  and, and I will say this too.
• 1:24:04
  It's about just about that whistle.
• 1:24:06
  I'm certainly not the first person to say this.
• 1:24:08
  This is not my original thought, but it's interesting when you think about the fact that, but you said GT could have been entirely different outcome of that game.
• 1:24:17
  That whistle could have been what moved BC from playing in Montreal to playing a home game.
• 1:24:24
  So what that's the, kind of the fact.
• 1:24:28
  Yeah.
• 1:24:29
  was a huge whistle.
• 1:24:30
  And it was a bad whistle, because if you remember two years ago, there was all that kerfuffle about whistles coming early.
• 1:24:37
  And then they made a statement that they were going to then not blow the whistle and let plays run its course and make sure that they, because they was a couple of plays that were
• 1:24:46
  called dead at too early.
• 1:24:48
  And so they came out mid season and said they changed it and
• 1:24:52
  referees were not going to do that.
• 1:24:53
  And then it just happened.
• 1:24:55
  it was, you know, I don't blame the ref.
• 1:24:57
  But the fact is that that play wasn't dead yet.
• 1:25:01
  And so there shouldn't have been a whistle at all.
• 1:25:04
  And yeah, and it did change me in my mind that that game in that Saskatchewan would have won that game.
• 1:25:11
  I'm sure.
• 1:25:12
  I'm pretty sure.
• 1:25:14
  Yeah, you never know, but it was a very good chance.
• 1:25:18
  And I'm with you, the refs are human.
• 1:25:20
  There's none of us that gets through a day without making a mistake.
• 1:25:24
  It's just whoever, and I'm kind of glad that they haven't said who the ref was that blew the whistle.
• 1:25:29
  Whoever blew it just happened to pick a real bad time to make one of his mistakes for that day.
• 1:25:36
  So what are you gonna do?
• 1:25:37
  Yeah, you do the best you can.
• 1:25:39
  And I'm sure he probably...
• 1:25:42
  is still feeling pretty crappy about that because I know they've got a lot of integrity and care about what they do.
• 1:25:47
  Anyway, so that's the season.
• 1:25:49
  Over and done.
• 1:25:50
  Oh, doesn't it seem like just to me it feels like maybe three or four weeks ago that I was reaching out saying I need some help on this podcast and you guys contacted me and it's
• 1:26:04
  just blowing by.
• 1:26:06
  But.
• 1:26:07
  has gone really quickly.
• 1:26:08
  I do feel like it's gone even faster than most seasons.
• 1:26:12
  And I'm not sure if the podcast has helped that, but it certainly seems like this one's gone by really fast.
• 1:26:18
  Yes, indeed.
• 1:26:20
  So now we have to pick some playoff games.
• 1:26:22
  But before we do, I have been terrible, but keeping up on this all season.
• 1:26:26
  But this weekend I did go through and did our whole Pick'em records for the thing.
• 1:26:30
  actually, let me open something up here because I should tell you, first of all, I should go here and say what the the podcast did, what our record was.
• 1:26:38
  So log into this.
• 1:26:40
  Pick them, standings.
• 1:26:42
  That's where we go.
• 1:26:43
  So here we go.
• 1:26:45
  Boom.
• 1:26:45
  leaderboard.
• 1:26:46
  Pick them results and the leaderboard will be displayed here once there are results to show.
• 1:26:50
  Also, they've already taken it off for this year.
• 1:26:54
  I don't...
• 1:26:55
  Yeah, it's a blank screen.
• 1:26:58
  love it.
• 1:26:59
  Oh, they're out of it in a hurry.
• 1:27:01
  So I don't know how we did as a team.
• 1:27:03
  I could probably go back and figure it out, but, but it's not right there.
• 1:27:07
  But as far as our individual little competition between the three of us here goes.
• 1:27:14
  Yeah.
• 1:27:15
  Wow.
• 1:27:15
  In third place in the CFL outsiders, internal competition was me.
• 1:27:23
  I was 45 and 36.
• 1:27:25
  So 55.5%.
• 1:27:28
  barely over 50 percent.
• 1:27:31
  Not a good year for me in Pick 'Em Second place was MJ.
• 1:27:38
  53 and 28.
• 1:27:40
  65.4 points.
• 1:27:42
  Yes.
• 1:27:43
  And that of course means GT was in first.
• 1:27:46
  Now remember MJ was 53 and 28.
• 1:27:49
  GT was 54 and 27.
• 1:27:51
  So 66.7 percent.
• 1:27:54
  actually 66.6 repeating exactly a third so there was a game between the two of one slightly different pick
• 1:28:03
  I blame your- I blame Griz
• 1:28:05
  uh
• 1:28:14
  You did pretty good!
• 1:28:15
  Yes, you two did.
• 1:28:17
  Yeah, you were both up about about two thirds.
• 1:28:21
  Oh, well, yeah, you guys were well over 500.
• 1:28:23
  Yeah, I, I think I hurt myself a little bit towards the end just saying I really don't care because I'm doing so bad.
• 1:28:30
  The stuff about trying to help Calgary win by picking against them and stuff.
• 1:28:34
  But it's still I would have if I'd played these last two weeks straight, I might have had two more wins.
• 1:28:39
  So I was nowhere near I was
• 1:28:40
  I was ten games below you guys.
• 1:28:42
  We're gonna cause
• 1:28:43
  it was a bit of a wacky season, to be fair.
• 1:28:48
  Yes indeed.
• 1:28:49
  So let's see now how we do in the playoffs.
• 1:28:54
  A whole new competition here.
• 1:28:58
  So starting out, I tried to find the injury reports and I couldn't see them.
• 1:29:03
  The last ones are for week 21, so I don't know if they don't release them in the playoffs or what.
• 1:29:08
  I have heard...
• 1:29:09
  up, but they're...
• 1:29:10
  Most of them are like load management.
• 1:29:12
  I know Demski's
• 1:29:14
  Yeah, because I went in where I normally see it on CFL and it stopped at week 21.
• 1:29:19
  So anyway, regardless, yeah, we'll see what's there.
• 1:29:22
  We have heard that Davis may or may not have been nicked up.
• 1:29:25
  That may have just been an excuse to not play him.
• 1:29:27
  I have heard what you just mentioned, MJ, that Demski is not practicing yet.
• 1:29:32
  So whether he'll be in or not, I don't know.
• 1:29:34
  some people things that say ankle, but then I'm like, you know, you you said this before and then they play so.
• 1:29:43
  You're going to play its playoffs you're playing, right?
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  Like I don't I'm not even looking at the injury report.
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  if it's at all, and like if he can put weight on it at all, he will probably not practice at all this week and then they'll shoot him up real good and he won't feel anything below
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  his hip on that leg and he'll get through it.
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  Yeah, but there's where...
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  surgery when I'm older?
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  What a mystery.
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  Yeah, football is not an old person sport.
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  You shouldn't play it if you're old or you plan to get old.
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  But that's our first game.
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  So what are our predictions for Winnipeg at Montreal?
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  Alright I pulled my tarot cards, do you want to hear?
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  Okay!
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  So Bomber's got 8 of wands which is progress, movement and rapid action.
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  Basically, steady pace is now full on sprint and fueled by passion.
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  The universe is working in your favour.
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  So they're kind of ramping up.
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  Worldwinds a possibility.
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  Alouettes have 6 of swords which is transition and letting go.
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  This is braving troubled waters to catch bigger fish in the sea.
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  Opportunities were limited in the past, but there's some new perspective here.
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  Ride the waves is easier to go with the flow than to resist pull.
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  So I think one team's a little more going with the flow than the other.
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  think there's some.
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  I'm gonna have to let you interpret that to me as how that pick goes.
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  So the Bombers, think they are, they're just like steady, this is the thing, they have experience in playoffs.
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  Zack Collaros can play in playoffs.
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  I don't consider them a crossover team because they have played in the East.
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  21 year.
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  Hey!
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  Hey, hmm.
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  No, no, go ahead.
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  Go ahead.
• 1:31:36
  I'm still thinking about it.
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  Okay, yeah.
• 1:31:39
  I'm not brave enough to pick the Bombers.
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  I'm not guaranteeing by any means that Montreal will win this because the Bombers are capable at times of putting together a spectacular game and moving on when they shouldn't
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  have.
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  I can think of a few examples of that over the past couple of years.
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  But they can't, they won't do it for three games in a row.
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  they've shown that they're not capable of that.
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  So they're not going to win the Grey Cup.
• 1:32:02
  Do they get past Montreal?
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  Possible, but I think doubtful.
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  think that that Montreal defense is better than the Winnipeg defense.
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  Winnipeg defense is good, but Montreal is better.
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  Davis Alexander is the kind of guy that can get something done against the Montreal or against the Winnipeg defense.
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  They, I find they tend to be better in against quarterbacks that they know are going to be in the pocket and are
• 1:32:29
  and then know what they're gonna, where they're gonna find them.
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  Alexander's not a running quarterback by any means, but he is mobile.
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  He can move around in the pocket and he can roll out if he needs to.
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  And I think that will be the difference there.
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  And I do think that the Montreal defense won't give up a lot to Zach with the weapons he currently has.
• 1:32:47
  Although they are saying, they are saying eight degrees and raining, so the run game may come into effect.
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  Brady time.
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  I'm going to interpret the tarot.
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  Okay
• 1:33:02
  So, Montreal has the calm carry on level kind of tarot card is what I heard.
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  and Winnipeg has the kind of excitement on the up kind of tarot card is what I heard.
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  So, I'm going to suggest the other way around, the opposite.
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  like the Winnipeg's like the possibilities are flowing freely around you and then the Alouettes are like, you're brave and troubled waters, but you're kind of moving through.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay, Montreal is going to score early.
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  They're going to have a lead, maybe 10 points thereabouts, and then Winnipeg is going to storm back and it's going to be very close with Montreal in a bit of a panic as Winnipeg
• 1:33:50
  comes down to try to tie the game, but they're going to pull it out in the end.
• 1:33:54
  So I think it's going to be Montreal.
• 1:33:56
  Okay.
• 1:33:57
  That's how I interpret the cards.
• 1:33:59
  I love it.
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  I am just like so, well the bombers just do weird things.
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  They just, I don't know how they do it.
• 1:34:07
  furiously making notes so we can put the right things down in the stuff.
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  Yes.
• 1:34:13
  I really do want to pick the alouettes but I just I don't know man there's the bombers do we'll see yeah
• 1:34:22
  see this being...
• 1:34:23
  I could see Montreal coming out of this 35 to 3, or I could see it being a 18-17 game either way.
• 1:34:33
  know, it's just...
• 1:34:34
  Weather will have a lot to play with it.
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  Alexander, he doesn't seem to have shown any nerves at all yet so far.
• 1:34:40
  Will the playoffs make a difference for that?
• 1:34:42
  I don't know.
• 1:34:43
  See?
• 1:34:44
  So then we've got only one other one to talk about and that's Calgary at BC the Western Semifinal.
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  Your team, GT, you get the first pick.
• 1:34:53
  This is a tough one.
• 1:34:54
  I think BC has been playing much better recently overall, but I think Calgary has also played pretty well until this weekend where I don't think either team played well.
• 1:35:05
  I think, yeah, I'm taking, I think BC is going to win.
• 1:35:08
  I do think BC is going to win as much as I'd like to see Vernon.
• 1:35:13
  get his comeback against BC after the two losses earlier in the year I think it's gonna be a high scoring game.
• 1:35:19
  I think this could be a shootout And I think it's gonna be a much more exciting game than the first one I think the first one is gonna be a bit of a drag it down knock knuckle
• 1:35:29
  buster I think this one's gonna be dry as you said and indoors and perfect weather and I think it's going to be
• 1:35:36
  both guys flinging the ball around and I think it's going to be a high scoring game.
• 1:35:40
  I can, I think BC just has a bit more to win this.
• 1:35:44
  Okay, MJ.
• 1:35:46
  Okay, so the stamps have the four of wands, which is backbound and foundation and trying to be centered and stable.
• 1:35:54
  And the big thing here was embracing mistakes, don't let them rattle you.
• 1:35:58
  And I think that is the key for VA is that he gets rattled.
• 1:36:04
  So if they can, if he can stay grounded, they will be okay.
• 1:36:10
  But I'm not convinced.
• 1:36:12
  The Lions have the nine of swords reversed and this is mindfulness, conscious choices and thought patterns.
• 1:36:17
  this is through your experiences you've come to realize that everything will ultimately be okay and your anxieties will arise but you'll have the tools to deal with it.
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  like letting go of the need to control situations is giving you the freedom to let go and be as you are, you're prepared.
• 1:36:33
  So I will take the Lions.
• 1:36:35
  Yeah.
• 1:36:35
  And to me, like I said in there, those tarot cards describe the quarterbacks basically.
• 1:36:41
  know, VA's got to be able to keep it calm enough and not get overwhelmed if he makes a mistake here or there.
• 1:36:48
  And Nathan's strong point is that he knows the football, he knows the offense.
• 1:36:54
  He's just, he's a very cerebral sort of guy with it.
• 1:36:59
  and V.A.
• 1:36:58
  got rattled last time he was there.
• 1:37:00
  Yeah, that's the part that worries me the most is VA is when he's on, he's really on, but it seems like he can get rattled.
• 1:37:07
  when you add together the, the champ chances of it being a meaningful playoff game after a team that missed the playoffs last year.
• 1:37:16
  So there's pressure there and he's going back into the team where he had all to play against team.
• 1:37:21
  had all the trouble with, I'm not saying he can't do it.
• 1:37:23
  really hope he can, but this seems like the kind of game where his emotion might.
• 1:37:29
  have the potential to get away from him and when that happens it's not so good.
• 1:37:34
  Yeah, I'm hoping that he had those two games already, you know, that the first one and then more particularly the second one that he's had, okay, I'm over that now I just have
• 1:37:45
  to play.
• 1:37:46
  I don't know that he will, but I think he will.
• 1:37:49
  But even then, as I said, I just think BC has a little bit more.
• 1:37:55
  Yeah, maybe the trainer needs to sprinkle just a little bit of volume in his Gatorade, know.
• 1:38:00
  Take it down a notch, yes.
• 1:38:02
  And I have to say, again, as I've been outing myself as the more of the rider fan on here, this is part of the reason why I'm not really as upset as I could have been about that
• 1:38:13
  inadvertent whistle.
• 1:38:14
  Because to tell you the truth, I think that...
• 1:38:18
  Saskatchewan matches up much better against BC than they do against Calgary.
• 1:38:22
  So if BC comes out of this with a win, which they're probably favored to do in their hometown, that gives Saskatchewan a team they match up well within the final.
• 1:38:32
  Even with the way that Calgary's been up and down a bit, they just absolutely own the riders both games.
• 1:38:38
  And if they get past BC, I do not like to think about what could happen in that final.
• 1:38:44
  especially because that'll be back outdoors where Mills running is going to come into effect a lot.
• 1:38:48
  Yep.
• 1:38:49
  Okay.
• 1:38:50
  Anything else to say?
• 1:38:52
  who am I picking?
• 1:38:53
  I'm picking BC.
• 1:38:53
  I thought I said that.
• 1:38:55
  Yeah.
• 1:38:56
  Sorry.
• 1:38:57
  Okay.
• 1:38:59
  I said it inside.
• 1:39:00
  no, I do.
• 1:39:01
  Yeah.
• 1:39:01
  I think that, that even if, I think even if VA has a great game that, that probably the best outcome for
• 1:39:12
  Calgary is what you said GT, a real high shootout but maybe not quite enough to get it done.
• 1:39:17
  Mind you, you never know.
• 1:39:18
  They are certainly, they have played good enough at times to be able to beat any team in the league.
• 1:39:23
  absolutely.
• 1:39:24
  VA will bring his belt buckle to Vancouver.
• 1:39:28
  Okay, that gets us through it.
• 1:39:30
  Oh, and we were two hours even on a short show, but if that'll be edited out of my blathering around, it doesn't mean anything.
• 1:39:36
  So, sign off, I guess.
• 1:39:39
  Social, final thoughts and social medias.
• 1:39:41
  Where do people find you?
• 1:39:42
  As always, at GT Barnum on bluesky.social.net, whatever it's called, and you can find me there, occasional.
• 1:39:50
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• 1:39:57
  Yes.
• 1:39:58
  Yes.
• 1:39:58
  And for myself, I said right off the bat that I'm slightly impatient this week.
• 1:40:05
  And that's because after having to watch the football we did last weekend, I can't wait for a couple of good playoff games.
• 1:40:12
  And I do think that I don't think there'll be blowouts here.
• 1:40:17
  I think that these may not come down to the last three minutes.
• 1:40:20
  They might.
• 1:40:20
  But I'm pretty sure they'll be decided in the last half of the fourth quarter, if nothing else.
• 1:40:25
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• 1:40:27
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• 1:40:58
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• 1:41:05
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• 1:41:06
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• 1:41:09
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• 1:41:13
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