Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Tom Hughes: Intolerance Of The Anti-Christian Left And Their Push For Power (REPLAY)
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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity.
- 0:13No topic off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
- 0:20Hello friends.
- 0:21God bless you.
- 0:22Thanks for watching, for sharing the podcast, and for your prayers.
- 0:24Can't wait to jump in to this show with our new guest.
- 0:27Pastor Tom Hughes, now we've been trying to connect for like a year.
- 0:31Finally, we got him.
- 0:32He's the founder of Hope for Our Times, and he also founded four 12 churches.
- 0:38He's been teaching the Bible and Bible prophecy for over 30 years.
- 0:42Yes, he's one of those guys, troublemakers that dives in the Bible prophecy, and he has
- 0:47a unique gift for helping people understand what the Bible calls the last days.
- 0:51He shares daily prophecy updates on the Hope for Our Times website, and that is Hope
- 0:57for Our Times.com.
- 0:59They've got an app you can download, YouTube channel, and he regularly appears on a variety
- 1:05of TV, radio, internet programs, a world news briefing on his channel.
- 1:10He's the host of the Tom Hughes report, and bestselling author of three books.
- 1:15And he lives in Southern California, travels all over the place.
- 1:17He's a busy man, so we're so thankful for his time today.
- 1:21Tom, welcome to World View Matters, brother.
- 1:23Good to see you.
- 1:24David, this is great.
- 1:25Finally, get to connect with you.
- 1:26I know.
- 1:27This is so cool.
- 1:28I know.
- 1:29Awesome.
- 1:30So before we jump in, I want to just mention your books, because we'll talk a little bit
- 1:34about each one.
- 1:35Have you just explained the most recent marking the masses?
- 1:38And you can get that over on Amazon doing very well five star ratings over there.
- 1:42So make sure to check that one out, friends.
- 1:44We're going to be talking a little bit about that.
- 1:46And that also I want to mention another book, America's Coming Judgment.
- 1:51Where is our Hope?
- 1:53And you can go to Amazon.com, look up Thomas J. Hughes, Tom Hughes, hope for our time.
- 2:00So brother, I wanted to talk about YouTube real quick, because it's one of the outlets
- 2:04that we post on, and it's been censoring Christians and Conservatives for quite a few
- 2:08years.
- 2:09I've got proof just the podcast two days ago, actually last week.
- 2:14I did a show.
- 2:15And this is really disappointing, because it was a two part show, one of the very rare podcasts
- 2:20I do where I do not have a guest.
- 2:23The first half, I just did a personal update on my wife's health, on, I lost my mother
- 2:29recently, praise God, she's with the Lord, but it's been really hard going up there,
- 2:34taking care of her house, all the stuff, but I've been talking about joy.
- 2:37And when Jesus said in this world, you will have tribulation, but take heart, I have overcome
- 2:41the world and the hope that we have that it's an anchor to our soul.
- 2:45So that was the first half of the podcast.
- 2:47And then the second half, I talked about some recent news stories, one of which was Pfizer
- 2:53being sued by six different states for misrepresentation of the C-19er shot.
- 3:04And so that got me pulled off YouTube immediately a couple days ago for that podcast.
- 3:11So yeah, tolerance, right?
- 3:13So I just want to mention to people, you can see that on rumble, go to my rumble channel,
- 3:18go to the Freedom Project rumble channel, you can see that, I encourage you to watch it
- 3:22and share it, because there's some very important information on media bias.
- 3:25I call it the one party, big tech media conglomerate that censors and suppresses free speech.
- 3:33Tom, your thoughts on that, I know you've been affected by this to some degree as well.
- 3:38And this is just the state we're living in now in America, the intolerance of the biblical
- 3:43worldview and free speech, your thoughts.
- 3:45Yeah, you know what is amazing is there really isn't any censorship, at least that's what
- 3:52I was told by, you know, certain people maybe on the left, listen, it's absolutely absurd.
- 4:00In fact, the censorship really didn't take off until, let's say the Biden regime came
- 4:05into power.
- 4:06That's what I started experiencing it.
- 4:10But it's true.
- 4:11And here's the thing when it comes to the Bible and censorship is the world can't handle
- 4:18the truth, the world being those who are against Christ, they can't handle the truth.
- 4:22So we think of what Jesus said regarding the last days of Matthew chapter 24, he said,
- 4:28many will be offended because of me.
- 4:30I'm working go, you cannot not offend somebody now.
- 4:35But the censorship is off the charts.
- 4:37We know we have an election that's coming up here in the near future, at least we're assuming
- 4:42there's going to be an election.
- 4:44But the censorship, and now what we do is we self censor because we're looking to going,
- 4:51okay, I don't want to be cut off on this or deleted here.
- 4:55I got to make sure my, my app is still, my program is still up or whatever, but it also
- 5:01has forced us to create other platforms, or to be on other platforms because quite frankly
- 5:09we have to.
- 5:12But even when you look at that, the biggest platforms are obviously Google and YouTube,
- 5:18and they do control these things and they're controlled by the leftists.
- 5:23It's interesting that they preach tolerance, but they are some of the most intolerant when
- 5:29it comes to Christians, and they don't, I don't notice them censoring other people.
- 5:34Other religions, isms, cults, and other things and other wacko beliefs, but anyway this
- 5:40is, this is to be expected.
- 5:42So Tom, we're trying to use whatever outlets are available to us to get the gospel out,
- 5:48to get people saved first and foremost, to then hopefully get people saved that are
- 5:52in churches and professing Christians or so-called Christians.
- 5:57And then, of course, we're trying to reach the world, but we're also trying to get the
- 5:59truth out and just inform people on what's going on, and that's been very hard because
- 6:03of what you said, what have, what I got the notice from YouTube, it said your content
- 6:08was removed due to a violation of our community guidelines.
- 6:12But you know the type of people that can have you put their videos on YouTube and the
- 6:17type of demonic content and you're looking at that going, wow, they allow this, so times
- 6:22of change, this is what we have to deal with, so your encouragement to people who are
- 6:26watching and listening that do have social media, every one of us has a sphere of influence,
- 6:32not everybody has a church or a big stage or platform, but we can use what we can, the
- 6:37gifts that we've been given to, hopefully, get the truth out, your encouragement to those
- 6:41who have been disappointed, maybe have backed off a little bit because they don't want
- 6:45to deal with the potential censorship or just being canceled.
- 6:50Yeah, first thing to keep in mind is there's no such thing as a fact checker until the
- 6:54truth started getting out, so don't forget that.
- 6:57So when we look at it though, you know, I look at myself, I'm discouraged sometimes,
- 7:02I'm sure you are too, I started being de-platformed probably about a year and a half ago, now
- 7:09I have a very difficult time getting my information out there if it's not on other platforms
- 7:15that are more friendly to me, including my own, but with that is do whatever little bit
- 7:21that you still can, the devil would love you to quit, then this is what the left would
- 7:26love you to do, would love to just get you to the point where you're so intimidated or
- 7:30so discouraged that you won't do anything, listen, that is not of the Lord.
- 7:35So you do what you can and maybe you have a platform you're only reaching 500 people,
- 7:41maybe at the most, keep doing it anyways because that's 500 more than zero and whether whatever
- 7:48platform you possibly can, but then you also find the ones that are more friendly, go
- 7:53to the ones that are more friendly, right now X is obviously more friendly than it was
- 7:57when it was Twitter.
- 7:58So you find these things and you realize you go there, but whatever you do don't quit
- 8:05because we have the hope, we have the truth, and just as you said, David, the most important
- 8:11message we have is the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, and this is something that the devil
- 8:16does not want out there, and you know, these people, they're all going to be against us.
- 8:20There's going to be scoffers, mockers in the last days.
- 8:23You cannot let those things bother you.
- 8:26You understand the spirit where those things come from and we press forward.
- 8:30So Tom, you've got a conference coming up, the end of the world conference.
- 8:36I just want to mention some names because we've had them on this podcast, actually there's
- 8:39a couple that I'm going to be speaking with, but we've had Jeff Kinley, Brandon Holthaus,
- 8:45Bill Federer, I'll be talking to him in a few hours, Seth Gruber, and I'm going to be
- 8:52talking to Todd Hampson.
- 8:53So tell us about this amazing sounding conference coming up in November and how can people
- 8:59get information on it?
- 9:02It's called the end of the world, and you know, it's going to be an absolute terrific
- 9:06conference.
- 9:07We're still probably going to add a few more speakers to the list, but we're developing
- 9:12it.
- 9:13It's going to be huge, and it's going to be a 412 church in Temecula, California.
- 9:17And there are actually good things that come out of California.
- 9:21There's also bad stuff, but there is a lot of light that is shining here.
- 9:25It's going to be absolutely terrific, but it's going to be following the heels of the
- 9:28general election.
- 9:29So the general election is on that Tuesday, and then come Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
- 9:34We have the end of the world conference.
- 9:36In fact, one of the speakers that's joining us, we have Jeff Morgan that we're flying
- 9:40over from Israel.
- 9:42His first time coming to one of our conferences, Allison Steinberg, formerly of OAN News.
- 9:51She's going to be joining us.
- 9:53She is no longer on OAN News because she was too conservative, I guess.
- 9:57Really?
- 9:58Yes, it's absolutely true.
- 10:04She thinks like you do is what it is.
- 10:06She's sharp.
- 10:07She came out of, get this, David.
- 10:09She came out of Hollywood.
- 10:11She was doing makeup on a listers in the Hardahollywood, 2020 rolls around.
- 10:18She goes, what is all the craziness?
- 10:20She starts searching for answers.
- 10:21She gets saved.
- 10:24She's Jewish.
- 10:25She's now a believer in Jesus, this Jewish.
- 10:28She's smart.
- 10:29She's young and very conservative.
- 10:33She'd fit right in on these programs.
- 10:35I mean, going with everything.
- 10:36She calls out everything and they get tired of it.
- 10:39And well, I'm going to have to see if I can connect with her through you.
- 10:43What a great story.
- 10:44I was in Hollywood.
- 10:45I lived out there for 17 years.
- 10:47I did a little bit of acting and just ended up moving to the Midwest.
- 10:51But tough business.
- 10:53And when I was out there, there was still tolerance about 25 years ago for the Christian
- 10:57faith and the biblical worldview.
- 11:00Not anymore.
- 11:01But so anyone that's in that industry, kudos.
- 11:05I want you to encourage Seth Gruber to tell people what he really thinks when he speaks
- 11:09at that conference.
- 11:10He's funny.
- 11:11We just had him on.
- 11:12An Olivier Melner.
- 11:13And brother, he's going to be back on the podcast here in a couple of weeks.
- 11:17So what's interesting about that, Tom, as a speaker, looking at that coming up after
- 11:21the November election, assuming we will have a November election, I would guess some
- 11:27of the speakers will be tweaking what they had planned to talk about depending on what
- 11:30happens.
- 11:31Just your thoughts on that.
- 11:34There's so much speculation.
- 11:36You talked to JB Hickson recently.
- 11:38You've got a podcast coming out with him, not by works.
- 11:41I talked with him just before you did.
- 11:43And we were talking about, I don't think it's going to be Kamala Harris.
- 11:46I know I just don't think she's a likable enough, electable.
- 11:51I think they can put almost anybody in there, a mannequin with a D by their name, and
- 11:57that will be more popular to have a better chance of being marketed to the people.
- 12:02You're sure thoughts on the election, how this thing might play out?
- 12:06In my mind, there's no way it's going to be Kamala.
- 12:09You know, they're raising incredible amounts of money right now.
- 12:13I'm trying to put the spin on that Kamala's like the Virgin Mary.
- 12:17I mean, it's just totally absurd.
- 12:19There's enough stupid people out there to believe it.
- 12:21Am I allowed to say stupid on your program?
- 12:23Yes, sure.
- 12:24Okay, good, because there are some stupid people out there.
- 12:28I personally believe she's one of them.
- 12:30It amazes me that she even made it through school, but when you find out how she made
- 12:34it through school, I guess that's such a surprise.
- 12:37Well, but with her, I can't believe it.
- 12:40So my guess is she's absolutely unwinnable, and my guess is they're going to do the, I
- 12:48think as I told JP, it's like the Harrison Ford thing from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
- 12:52You know, and you had the crystal ball or whatever it was that was there.
- 12:56You had to switch it out with a bag of sand, and that's what they're going to do with
- 12:59Kamala.
- 13:00You know, they've already switched out Biden head with Kamala's head.
- 13:02Now they get switched up from all this head with the next one.
- 13:05My guess is that they're going to do something like a Michelle Obama, because there are so
- 13:13many people who just hate Trump.
- 13:15They will, they'll just vote for anybody, but they are having a, they can't vote for Kamala
- 13:20is what their problem is, but they'll vote for anybody else.
- 13:22The other thing, I just want to caution people on is if this election goes to the Democrat,
- 13:29this is my personal belief.
- 13:31I'm convinced I'm right on this.
- 13:33We will pretty, we pretty much have lost abortion forever.
- 13:36We've lost everything related to gender and the school issues.
- 13:41The Department of Education, obviously, is totally corruptful of Marxist.
- 13:45The LGBTQ community, we're, we're, we're looking at Israel.
- 13:51Kamala Harris and these people who run her are some of the most anti-Semitic people that
- 13:56are in the entire country.
- 13:58So you look at the things that you would support pro, pro life, pro marriage, pro Israel.
- 14:07Those things are gone.
- 14:09I mean, I, I'm, this might sound like a fear tactic.
- 14:11I'm just telling you all you have to do is read what they say and listen to what they
- 14:15say.
- 14:16I mean, there's this, I mean, right now, even under the Biden administration, when you
- 14:20look at Israel, it was, as Amos Huckstein, he's been the liaison for the Biden administration
- 14:27meeting with the Hezbollah leaders in Lebanon and he's been negotiating with Israel.
- 14:33He's in his, he's in Israeli Jew, right?
- 14:36But he's not favorable to Israeli Jews or Israeli policy.
- 14:40So he meets with these leaders of Hezbollah in Lebanon and I say praise God that they got
- 14:47the, they killed the one guy and the other guy and whoever, whoever else by now.
- 14:53He meets with him and, and here's deal.
- 14:56He makes an offer to Israel.
- 14:57Hey, you guys will be able to get the hostages released and, and you'll stop having rockets
- 15:03from Hezbollah if you just stop pushing further into Gaza.
- 15:07So it's been going on for a few months.
- 15:08Well, they're saying, no, we're not going to stop pushing into Gaza.
- 15:11Well, then therefore you're still going to have the rockets coming from Hezbollah.
- 15:15This is absolutely awful.
- 15:17This is evidence that the United States is not just green lighting Hezbollah to do what
- 15:23they want.
- 15:24They're making sure that they continue to do what they want against Israel using it as
- 15:29leverage against Israel for Israel to submit to U.S. policy, unbelievable to have this going
- 15:34on.
- 15:35Yeah.
- 15:36It is unbelievable, but this is where we are.
- 15:37We've got so much more to talk about with Pastor Tom Hughes when we come back on World
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- 16:21But Tom Hughes, let's jump over to your book unless you want to just talk a little bit more.
- 16:26In fact, let's do that before we get to marking the masses and talk a little bit about what
- 16:30that book is about.
- 16:31I'm sure Revelation 13, but let's talk a little bit more about Benjamin Netanyahu and
- 16:36the fact that Kamala Harris didn't even show up when he was speaking to Congress and
- 16:42isn't she the head over the Senate, not just VP, but doesn't she have a responsibility?
- 16:47Anyway, you mentioned anti-Semitism and it's been off the charts in America on our college
- 16:54campuses, in our government.
- 16:56Just your thoughts on what happened when Netanyahu visited and what you see going on going
- 17:00forward?
- 17:01Well, I would say it certainly isn't a shock with Kamala Harris.
- 17:04A lot of information out there.
- 17:06She was raised by Kami parents.
- 17:09She's brought up with Willie Brown in the politics here in California, all of her schooling,
- 17:15all of this stuff.
- 17:16It was all related to these radical organizations, even connected with Barack Obama and these
- 17:22different things.
- 17:23So, although she's definitely not intelligent, I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist
- 17:28to figure out that one.
- 17:30But she still is exceptionally radical and she hates Israel.
- 17:35So if we go back, remember when Obama was president and Netanyahu came out to speak, Obama
- 17:42wouldn't even shake Netanyahu's hand, wouldn't even greet him at the White House.
- 17:48There's none of that.
- 17:49He's coming to Congress who is just totally ridiculed, laughed at, mocked, but he spoke before
- 17:55Congress and how many of the leftists would not even show up for that, including Obama and
- 18:01his clan.
- 18:02Okay.
- 18:03So we look at that and you look at her, she's every bit as bad, if not even worse because
- 18:10she's more manipulatable or whatever you want to call it, by her handlers.
- 18:18So she hates Israel, she hates them as much as the squad hates Israel.
- 18:23So it's no surprise at all to any of us that she wouldn't show up for Netanyahu, but
- 18:28this is, should, for anybody who actually thinks Kamala Harris would be nice or whatever
- 18:35administration is coming after this one, it's going to be nice toward Israel.
- 18:39You better wake up because I promise you, they will not.
- 18:43This is getting so strange, David, I mean, so strange, I hope nobody misunderstands me.
- 18:49Could you imagine that we could be looking back and thinking on the good old days of
- 18:54Biden when all he did was eat ice cream?
- 18:56I mean, that is a frightening thing because he was just absolutely evil and awful.
- 19:03But second Timothy chapter three does tell us that in the last days, evil men will wax
- 19:09worse and worse deceiving and being deceived.
- 19:12So this will go that way.
- 19:14However, the next verse says, but you, Berethra, remember your start in the holy scriptures
- 19:19do not depart from those things.
- 19:21But the world is going to go this way, the evil men, the Bible tells us, well wax worse
- 19:26and worse.
- 19:27So it's no surprise we go from Obama to Obama 3.0 or whatever it was with Biden to what
- 19:32we got now with with with Kathleen Captain Kamala to whatever we're going to come out
- 19:39with in November, I just personally think it'll end up being Michelle or whoever when
- 19:46it comes to November and it will not be friendly towards Israel.
- 19:50No, I said that very same thing on J.B. Hicksons podcast the other day.
- 19:54I think it's going to be Michelle Obama, she's like would be the ultimate candidate they
- 19:59could idolize.
- 20:00But Tom, we know they're anti-Semitic, we know if you go to the platform and you go to
- 20:06the policies, you look at the biblical world view what the Bible teaches, it's clear
- 20:11to see it's demonically driven what their policies entail and their ideologies.
- 20:17And yet I think there's some ignorance out there with people.
- 20:21Let's just take the life subject real quick and I keep saying we're going to get to marking
- 20:25the masses.
- 20:26But people can go to Amazon, check that out, we'll give Tom a couple of minutes to describe
- 20:30that book in a minute.
- 20:32But Tom, we're concerned about that.
- 20:34Most of us are pro-life, meaning at conception, not at any stage of pregnancy, but it seems
- 20:40like their platform is almost, well, it is demonic, but it's almost like they have a blood
- 20:45lust and it is murder of the preborn and there's not enough believers, I think, speaking
- 20:51out about this and defending life.
- 20:54What are your thoughts on that?
- 20:55It's just such a big issue that they're not talking about.
- 20:58I think they're avoiding that.
- 21:00Yeah, they want to avoid it as too controversial, you know, they pastors won't even talk about
- 21:05this.
- 21:06Yes.
- 21:07Pastors and churches that claim I believe that the Bible is true, they won't even talk
- 21:11about it.
- 21:12So it's no wonder politicians won't, but in fact, one of the reasons I've invited Seth
- 21:18Gruber to come out and speak at our end of the world conference is I asked him to connect
- 21:23the dots and he does it so well with the worship of Molek, with where we are now.
- 21:29It is a, we are literally sacrificing babies to Satan.
- 21:34That is really what's happening in the abortion industry.
- 21:39It's baby sacrifice to Satan and people, that's just how could you say such a thing?
- 21:43All right.
- 21:44Well, what is it then?
- 21:45Yeah.
- 21:46It's, you're not terminating a pregnancy, you know, it was even Bill Barr, you know, the
- 21:50leftist who admits it, who actually he's thinking a lot more than so many other people
- 21:55now, which is amazing to see.
- 21:57Maybe he'll come to Christ, but watching him recently is in a conversation about abortion
- 22:03with somebody out of Holly, with some lady and she was talking about abortion and Bill
- 22:07Mars says it's murder, it's murder.
- 22:10He said it.
- 22:11Now he said he still supports it, but at least he got that part right.
- 22:16He admitted it was murder and he was, he was actually challenging the people who supported
- 22:22abortion who can't admit that, you know, because it is murder, although I still support it.
- 22:26But this is sacrificing a baby to Satan.
- 22:31So it's the, it's the worship of Molek, call it whatever you want.
- 22:34I've been in, over to Israel many times he, and you drive across the Hinam Valley, in
- 22:41fact, the his channel TV studios is on the one side of the Hinam Valley, and the other
- 22:46side is the old city.
- 22:48You're looking at it.
- 22:50This is where you have the baby sacrifices during the Wiki Kings of Judah.
- 22:56They would go down there and sacrifice them to Molek on the arms of Molek, but yeah,
- 23:02that's what this is.
- 23:03Sacrifice to save.
- 23:04Yeah, we don't know our history, and they've done a great job evil, the marketing of
- 23:08evil.
- 23:09There's a great book, David Kuppellian wrote years ago, the marketing of evil, the left
- 23:13is done a great job changing the language.
- 23:15It's not a baby.
- 23:17It's reproductive freedom.
- 23:18It's choice.
- 23:19It's whatever else they're calling it up.
- 23:22We're terminating a pregnancy, not a baby.
- 23:24Anyway, Tom, so marking the masses, your book you wrote about a year ago, it's a wake-up
- 23:28call to both believers and unbelievers alike regarding an agenda that was set in motion.
- 23:34You say in 1961, give us a little sneak peek.
- 23:38Are those that have not purchased or read the book?
- 23:42Yeah.
- 23:43Well, let me to write the book.
- 23:44It was a conversation I had with my dad, and my dad's still alive.
- 23:48He turns 94 here, coming up shortly, but I've had this conversation many times over the
- 23:56years, and he was living in Los Angeles at the time with my mom.
- 24:02I was only a couple years old, and he worked in an industry.
- 24:06It was the tech industry of the time.
- 24:11He worked for a company called Teladine, and it was a very small corporation at the company
- 24:17at the time, and he was hired on because he had his master's degree in chemistry, and
- 24:24they need someone who could connect, you know, whatever was necessary to create the Silicon
- 24:30wafer, no, no, no, Silicon chips and Silicon Valley.
- 24:34So with that, he was invited to a party in Hollywood, overlooking the basin below, the valley
- 24:42down below, and it was some big wigs.
- 24:45It was from guy from Hewlett, guys from Hewlett Packard and these different companies.
- 24:50And he said there are a bunch of these men there, including his partners in Teladine.
- 24:56And somebody came up to him, put his arm around him, and he said, you see all these people
- 25:01down here, Jim, lights were shining and everything.
- 25:04He goes someday, we are going to control every single one of them.
- 25:08My dad said at the time, it just sent chills up his spine, because he said most of the people
- 25:13that he worked with, Henry Singleton, George Kamewski and others, who became very well-known
- 25:19in the industry, leading up to Silicon Valley, he said, most of them had good intentions.
- 25:24And he said, he goes, but when that was mentioned to me, they're going to control all of these
- 25:30people down here.
- 25:31He goes, I sensed there were no good intentions coming from that person.
- 25:36And the things he was working on, they were great projects to help the world, to help
- 25:41us, to be able to communicate.
- 25:43He's talked about cell phones and all these different things back in 1961, 1962, 1963.
- 25:50And so that launched, I did a recording with my dad a few years ago, sat down with him,
- 25:56dad, I need all the names, I need to get all this record, so I have it.
- 26:00So I recorded it, and I talked with one of my friends that's a publisher, and I said,
- 26:05hey, I'm going to turn this into a book.
- 26:08Would you be interested?
- 26:09And he said, well, yeah, let's see how it goes.
- 26:10So that became the foundation of it, and then obviously in the book, I don't just deal
- 26:17with technology, I deal with culture, the wokeism, how we got here, I go back in history and
- 26:24connect all these dots that take us to Revelation Chapter 13.
- 26:28But I wrote it, David, with the intent to not just strengthen the understanding of the
- 26:33believer, but to really reach the non-believer.
- 26:36So I didn't want to come across like a religious book, it's based on facts, you can read it
- 26:43and connect with it, but I really wanted the non-believer to go, oh man, I better, wow,
- 26:49this is interesting.
- 26:50I need to look at this, and then what does the Bible actually say?
- 26:53So that was my open writing book.
- 26:55Awesome.
- 26:56So guys, you can go to Amazon, marking the masses, five star ratings, and it sounds fascinating.
- 27:01Tom, I'm in a big word, control.
- 27:04And I hope, and I know you agree with me, that anyone watching or listening at this point,
- 27:09we are not naive to Satan's schemes, and unaware of his schemes, that there is an
- 27:13agenda to control people, to control mankind, but it is being played out, we're seeing,
- 27:19they're openly, they're talking about it.
- 27:21Tom, wish we had more time, but we will, Lord willing, do this again in the near future,
- 27:25appreciate all you do, and your voice, and may God enlarge your territory, brother.
- 27:29Thanks so much for being on World View Matters.
- 27:31All right, thanks for having me on David, it's wonderful, great to see you.
- 27:35Yep.
- 27:36All right, guys, we've got so much more coming up, some great guests to rest this week,
- 27:40and I'm just so blessed to talk to, who I get to talk to, it really encourages me, inspires
- 27:45me, keeps me going, even on those rough days when you're feeling a little beat up.
- 27:49And thanks again, God bless you, and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that
- 27:53matter.