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That Time The Arch Bishop Of Canterbury Came Out In Support Of Andrew · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Well,
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  the Archbishop of Canterbury has a suggestion for all of you,
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  and that suggestion is you should be more forgiving of
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  a scumbag like Prince Andrew, because you know we're a
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  society that's not forgiving enough. Well, breaking news, Archbishop of Canterbury.
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  There's no forgiveness for people like Andrew. And furthermore, forgive
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  for what I thought he didn't do anything. I thought
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  that Prince Andrew did nothing wrong, He never met Virginia Roberts,
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  and he was only paying this out so that the
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  Queen's Jewbilee could go on as planned. I thought that
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  was the line they were running to us. But now,
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  well we should forgive him. If he didn't do anything,
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  what should he be forgiven for. It's all just such
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  a joke and a clown show. The Archbishop of Canterbury
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  shocking that he comes out for the royal family to
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  defend Prince Andrew. It's absurd. How about the Archbishop of
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  Canterbury comes out and invites the survivors to come and
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  check out the church or donate some money towards survivors. Instead,
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  he gets up here and tries to run this line
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  of bs to refurbish Prince Andrew's reputation well breaking news.
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  It's not going to work now. I'm sure amongst the royalists,
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  everybody's feeling themselves this week. Got their little jubilee, you know,
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  a little party going on, everybody celebrating the Queen and
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  the royal family. Prince Andrew's smarty ass thinks he's gonna
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  slide in with people like this. The Archbishop of Canterbury
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  justin well be co signing for him. They're in for
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  a rude awakening because it's not only people who are
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  following this case who are disgusted by Prince Andrew. I
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  can't tell you how many people I know who have
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  not followed the case at all but are still disgusted
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  by what they've heard about Prince Andrew. You see, when
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  you're a public figure, and you're somebody like Prince Andrew,
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  and you're given a great amount of power and a
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  great amount of responsibility from the time of birth. If
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  you don't live up to that, well you're gonna be scorned.
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  Just look at the way we talk about princes and
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  royals and dukes from yesteryear and if they were scummy
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  or they did something terrible, it's still talked about to
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  this day. And on the flip side of that, though,
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  if you're one of these royals who has done something
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  incredibly awesome to help the people, which is far and
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  few between, you're remembered for that as well. So the
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  public is going to remember Prince Andrew for the scum
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  baggery that he was engaging in. Remember, nobody forced him
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  to be with Jeffrey Epstein, nobody forced him to hang
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  out with gunrunners or Peter Nigert. Nobody forced him to
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  do any of that. He chose to do it on
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  his own because he was looking to enrich himself on
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  the dime of the people of England. That's what people
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  should be mad about, not that people are calling him out,
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  not that people are saying he's a scumbag. They should
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  be mad because they've been duped, they've been used, and
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  Prince Andrew has treated them as if they were his
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  own personal piggy bank, all of these lavish trips, flying
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  around from here to there, going to golf tournaments that
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  cost sixty pounds. Meanwhile, you have people in England right
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  now as we speak who can't afford to pay for
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  their power, so they're going to places like McDonald's so
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  they don't freeze to death. It's just I don't understand
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  how someone like Justin Welby thinks this is a good idea.
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  But what I have seen from the people who run
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  these churches, the Catholic Church, the Archbishop of Canterbury, most
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  of these clerics, they're not worried about the people. They're
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  not worried about how people's lives are going. They're worried
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  about increasing their own wealth and increasing the status of
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  their church. So I guess the more things change, well
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  the more they stay the same, all right. Today's article
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  is from The Guardian and the author of this article
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  is Nadeem bad Shah. Headline Archbishop of Canterbury suggests Prince
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  Andrew wants to make amends, Well, he can start by
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  admitting what he did wrong. How about speaking to the FBI.
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  Just saying you want to make amends doesn't mean you
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  really want to make amends. You have to actually do
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  it right. And we all know that Prince Andrew's out
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  here talking about how he is the friend of lepers,
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  how he is the comforter of orphans. How he is
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  here for widows. You know, he's the man of the
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  people all of a sudden, and the Archbishop of Canterbury
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  is totally on board. Shock anybody considering the way these
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  churches conduct themselves. But he wants you to know that
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  Prince Andrew wants to make amends. I can't wait to
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  see the emails about this one. The Archbishop of Canterbury
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  has suggested the Duke of York is seeking to make
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  amends as he encouraged society to be more open and
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  forgiving in general. You know, I agree with being more forgiving,
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  but it depends on what your horse sins are. Right.
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  I'm not gonna be forgiving of rapists and child traffickers
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  and people who cause great harm to the society in
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  the community. Sorry, not gonna happen. I'm here for people
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  that really want to get fixed, people that really want help,
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  people that know they made a mistake and really want
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  to rehabilitate themselves and work towards doing that. You know
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  the dude who goes into prison at nineteen years old
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  for drug possession or whatever and decides while he's in there, look,
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  I'm gonna change my life. I'm gonna rehability take my life.
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  Those are the people that should be helped, not Prince Andrew.
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  He shouldn't have to make amends for something you didn't do. Remember,
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  And also, when you're somebody who has the status and
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  the stature of the Prince of England, for God's sakes,
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  you really think you should be running around with these people.
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  Don't you think that the Archbishop of Canterbury should suggest
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  that the Duke of York do some apologizing. But nah,
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  it's all about you having to accept your betters back
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  into your life because one of your other betters has
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  told you so. Well, guess what, they can all go
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  to hell. I don't care about the Queen's jewbilee. I
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  don't care about the Archbishop of the Church. I don't
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  care about the Pope. I don't care about none of them.
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  Not one of these people is better than I am. Okay,
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  we wake up every single day, we put our pants
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  on the same We all have to brush our teeth,
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  hopefully we put you know, put on the odorant, take
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  a shower. They all do the same thing. What makes
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  them better than you because they were born ers are
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  a certain way, or because they're a part of some
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  weird ass church. Yeah, no thanks, Those days are over.
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  Most people are seeing through that bullshit these days and
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  nobody's buying it. And furthermore, I don't think anybody is
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  taking what the Archbishop of Canterbury has to say here seriously.
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  Prince Andrew stepped down from public life after the furor
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  over his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted sex offender,
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  and earlier this year he paid millions to a woman
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  he claimed never to have met to settle a civil
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  sexual assault case. So is anyone going to ask the
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  old archbishop why Prince Andrew would pay money out to
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  somebody he never even met. Is that even going to
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  come up in the conversation? Or is the Archbishop of
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  Canterbury going to attempt to gaslight people as the head
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  of the church and have people just follow along with
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  him blindly because they trust him and think that he's
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  doing the right thing. How many times have we seen
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  leaders in the church lead people astray time and time again, Folks.
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  I hate to say it, but it's the truth. You
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  want to talk about, Snake oil salesman, just come down
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  to America and take a look at some of the
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  people that are pumping some of the bullshit that they're pumping.
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  I mean, just the other day, I'm sitting here watching
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  TV and I see that commercial for the guy who's
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  selling the godwater. Oh, if you send me a certain
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  amount of money, we'll send you some Godwater and it's
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  going to change your life. Breaking news. Nobody's sending you
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  any godwater for any amount of money. And that's basically
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  what the Archbishop of Canterbury's up here saying. Oh, well,
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  I'm telling you that you should forgive Prince Andrew, So
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  you should forgive Prince Andrew. Well, guess what. I don't
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  care what you say. I don't care what the Queen says.
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  The answer is no. Prince Andrew is a disgusting individual
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  who had the whole world given to him, and instead
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  of using all of that power, all of that prestige
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  for good, he used it to benefit fit himself at
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  and on the dime of the English people. So I
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  have no desire for forgiveness when it comes to Prince Andrew,
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  especially considering he's never even admitted to what he has
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  done wrong. So wouldn't that be the first step of forgiveness.
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  You have to admit that you did something wrong, he
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  was cast out of the working monarchy and no longer
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  uses his HRH style. After Virginia Roberts, who was trafficked
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  by Epstein, accused him of sexually assaulting her when she
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  was seventeen, the Duke has denied the allegations. Well, of
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  course he has. But if Virginia has been telling the
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  truth about the rest of this stuff, and we see
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  that she has, obviously take a look at the convictions,
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  well why would she be lying about Prince Andrew? I know,
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  I know it's to take down the whole monarchy, right,
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  Lady Victoria Hovey. The reality is this, She's not lying,
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  at least not in my opinion. And Prince Andrew, well,
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  he's the one that's been on the backstep. He's been
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  the one who has not provided any sort of backing
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  up of receipts to his accounting of what happened, So
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  why would anyone believe him? And furthermore, why would anyone
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  want to forgive him? All Right, folks, let's take a
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  quick commercial break. Justin Welby, in an interview with ITV
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  News on Tuesday, called on people to step back a
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  bit instead. The Queen's second son was seeking to make amends,
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  adding I think that's a very good thing. Well, why
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  don't you ask the survivors what they think about Prince
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  Andrew and his quote unquote making amends. It's all fine
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  and well for the Archbishop of Canterbury to talk about, Oh,
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  this one's making amends or that one's making amends when
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  nobody's ever wronged him. Was it his family members who
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  were assaulted by Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein? Oh, it
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  wasn't right. Oh, so it's okay because you know, there
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  were just girls from the other side of the tracks,
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  people that didn't have any money, maybe not from your
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  huh uppity tuppity class. So it's okay if they were abused,
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  and we should just forgive Prince Andrew because you know,
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  he's a prince and all. I guess the next thing
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  will be he'll come out, meaning the Archbishop of Canterbury,
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  and tell us how we have to forgive Jimmy Saville
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  as well. He stressed that he cannot tell people how
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  to respond, saying the issues of the past and the
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  area of abuse are so intensely personal and private for
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  so many and it's not surprising that there is very
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  deep feelings. Indeed, so here's an idea. Shut your mouth,
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  worry about your stupid little celebration here and shut your
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  stupid mouth. God Lee talk about opening it, meaning his
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  mouth and inserting his foot. Yeah, it's very personal and
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  there are very deep feelings involved. How about one of
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  these statements if you're the archbishop. The situation was unfortunate.
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  The people who were hurt deserve all of the time
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  to heal, They deserve all of the attention. And I'm
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  not going to talk about the allegations against Prince Andrew.
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  But no, you have to come out and try and
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  refurbish his reputation and try and tell the people who
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  pray in your congregation that, well, this is the way
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  I'm going about it, so you should do the same thing.
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  That's basically what he's saying. And the people who are
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  bought into the church, of course, they believe that this
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  guy speaks with the voice of God or whatever. So
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  people are going to, you know, follow their church leaders. Unfortunately,
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  and when you have church leaders here in the UK
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  and certainly in the United States who are up to
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  no good, well then the congregation is led. As Stray asked,
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  how the public should respond to Andrew after his appearance
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  at the Duke of Edinburgh's memorial service in March, well
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  b sixty six said, at a big public occasion, the
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  Queen is fully entitled to have one of her children
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  supporting her. Secondly, forgiveness really matter. I think we have
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  become a very, very unforgiving society. There's a difference between
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  consequences and forgiveness. Well, he's never had any consequences, mister
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  Wellby the Welpington, not one bit of consequences. Yet oh
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  he had to get rid of his titles, So what
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  still skulking around the palace. Isn't he sitting around eating
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  all that good food, riding his horse, living his best life?
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  So how can anyone forgive if there's never even been
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  any consequences. I guess there's people out there that might
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  want to, but certainly not me. I think for all
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  of us, one of the ways that we celebrate when
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  we come together is learning to be more open and
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  forgiving society. A spokesperson for the Archbishop of Canterbury later
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  clarified that he was not referring specifically to the Duke
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  of York when he said we must become a more
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  forgiving society and was making broad a broader point about
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  the kind of society that he hopes the Platinum Jewbilee
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  inspires us to be. Talk about walking it back. Nice try,
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  mister Welby. We all know how you feel. We all
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  know that you probably believe Prince Andrew and probably believe
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  that he did nothing wrong. And that's just the reality
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  of the upper crust. What you don't think the Archbishop
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  of Canterbury is part of the upper crust. You think
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  this guy cares about you. This guy's sitting in front
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  of the church, I mean the cross every night on
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  his knees, praying for the people of England. Yeah, okay, sure.
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  A statement from Welby said in tonight's interview with ITV News.
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  I was asked a question about forgiveness and I said
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  that there is a difference between consequences and forgiveness. Both
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  are essential elements of the Christian understanding of justice, mercy
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  and reconciliation. Eh, not one that's this kind of crime.
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  There's no there's no forgiveness, not for me anyway, especially
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  when there's no consequences. Go and serve your term, go
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  and serve your debt to society and then maybe we'll
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  talk about forgiveness at some point. But when you're accused
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  of these crimes, you all know how I feel. I
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  don't feel like you can be rehabilitated, and I don't
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  feel like there's any kind of oh well, I'm sorries
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  that are going to work. I also made the broader
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  point that I hope we can become a more forgiving society.
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  These are complex issues that are difficult to address in
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  a short media interview, and I hope they do not
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  distract from this week's joyful celebration of Her Majesty, the
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  Queen's Platinum Jubilee. Yeah, it is okay, it's going to
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  detract from it. You make these comments on Jubilee week
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  and then you don't think it's going to detract from
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  the queen celebration. Breaking news, dude, it's going to The
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  Archbishop is no longer delivering the sermon at the Platinum
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  Jubilee Service of Thanksgiving at Saint Paul's Cathedral on Friday
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  after he tested positive for COVID nineteen. Stephen Katrell, the
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  Archbishop of York, will take his place. Yes, well, isn't
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  that nice? Hope the guy doesn't you know, get too
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  sick or anything from the old COVID. But I mean,
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  can you be any more tone? Def could you not
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  read the room? You would think that a guy who
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  spends his whole life speaking in public and getting the
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  temperature of his congregation would understand that the world at
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  large is not ready for any kind of nonsense about
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  forgiving Prince Andrew. Yet have you forgotten that we're about
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  to have victim impact statements soon? So we should just
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  forgive him right now and then get those victim impact
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  statements and hear what Virginia has to say in court,
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  and then go back and revisit this. Sorry, not gonna happen.
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  We all know what the dude is, and we all
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  know the kind of people he was hanging out with,
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  and we all know the allegations that he was accused
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  of and that he paid out a bunch of money
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  to a girl he says he doesn't know. I think
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  that pretty much tells the whole story, doesn't it? All Right? Folks,
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  that's gonna do it for this episode. If you'd like
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