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The Murder of Cheryl Callaway Part 3: No Closer… · Gone Cold - Texas True Crime

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Magic mirror on the wall. Who are the most rotten ones of all?
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Hello, my darlings, and welcome to Rotten to the core. Here we
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will scribe into the past and discover some rotten apples throughout our history. Have
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no fear, my pretties, for we shall learn a lesson not only about
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their horrendous deeds, but also about our own power. Let's step out of
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the shadow of the past and help pull it towards the light. I am
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your host, Josh Waters, and I'll be the queen guiding you on our
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journey. Now, come along, DearS, we have lessons to learn.
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History is waiting the gone cold. Podcasts may contain violent or graphics subject matter.
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Listener discretion is advised. There's something in every job you seek. Arlington
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Police detective Sergeant Dennis Roten told fort Worth Star telegrams Denise Hensley in a six
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year anniversary article about eighteen year old Cheryl Anne Calloway's case. I seek Calloway's
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murderer. I just hope he's not dead so I can get him. Sergeant
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Roton remarked in nineteen eighty that Cheryl Calloway was a household name. In nineteen
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seventy four. The community was in shock and infuriated then, but now folks
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no longer remembered, but he did, the detective told the article's author.
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Roton was a patrolman when Cheryl was slain, and was admittedly over zealous in
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his attempts to find her killer's vehicle at the time, once pulling over in
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questioning the same car a second time. Luckily, the driver of the vehicle
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was understanding when the officer explained that he wasn't trying to harass him. Sergeant
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Wroten, although correct in a general sense, perhaps meaning the public at large
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had gone about their lives to rarely think of the horrific ice Pick murder as
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it became known, he was incorrect about folks no longer remembering, even after
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going on to other jobs in the area. Initial investigators Mike Lehman and Mike
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Adair remembered Cheryl two They got to know Cheryl's family and, by proxy,
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Cheryl herself. Her case was the only one they couldn't solve. We were
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I can't even tell you how many major cases. There were many. We
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had a city councilman, Sonder got killed. We saw that we had a
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real who done it? Where there were five victims, all killed in a
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drug deal. I mean, there's a lot of cases, but it's interesting
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to me how the woman really stands out. You did solve, but it
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certainly wasn't for a lack of trying. When it was all said and done,
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detective Laymen and Sergeant Adair followed hundreds upon hundreds of leads, and that's
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not including the twenty thousand or so Chevy Monty Carlows and ultomobile cutlasses they tracked
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down by ven numbers, then narrowing those down by zip code. It was
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a shot in the dark since they didn't know if the vehicle had even been
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purchased in the area. Hypnosis and clairvoyance tactics used by the department out of
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desperation during what Sergeant A. Dare called the straw grasping period, also produced
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nothing new, nothing to draw them closer to Cheryl's killer. No one had
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been above suspicion back then, and lacking many of the advancements and forensic technology
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we have today, plenty were cleared simply as the result of a polygraph examination.
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It's a difficult thing to understand these days, but if you didn't have
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any other evidence against a person who passed one. It was difficult to justify
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spending manpower and resources simply based on a hunch or a rumor. The initial
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investigation into the murder of Cheryl Anne Calloway, the hunt for the cowardly madman
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responsible was the most expensive in Arlington police history. According to Captain Bobby Wiggins,
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we talked to Grand Prairie Police Department, Dallas Police Farm in Fort Worth,
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gave them the information that we had. We talked to Cheryl's co workers
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to make sure that there wasn't something going on there. You know, well,
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I think we pretty well ruled out any kind domestic type situation boyfriend ex
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boyfriend, that type of time. We started checking ANYMO that might fit that
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type of thing, and uh we came up dry there. We kept striving
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the information. We went through NCIC, through the FBI nationwide for you know,
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that type of serial killer type person, and we started checking down as
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sex offenders and uh we just we pretty well came up dry just every avenue
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that we took. We we even went to General Motors and started trying to
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find where vehicles had been shipped match that description. We didn't do any good
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there. Of course, there were thousands of those. There was a real
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popular make vehicle. It's never did really develop anything. We checked color schemes,
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and you know, you're talking about thousands and thousands of vehicles going all
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over the United States. I feel pretty good about the fact that we covered
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every angle we could that there may be we didn't, you know. And
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then there were Cheryl's many friends. They certainly never forgot. Even today,
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fifty years later, plenty of Cheryl's friends still think of her often, as
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we've seen from social media posts and messages we've received. Cheryl's fiance Clint Harris,
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also never forgot. The marquis at the Dairy Queen, where they were
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both employed, was testament to that, offering a message of love to Cheryl
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for at least a dozen months after her murder, according to some, but
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eventually he relocated to California to help quell the daily reminders of what could have
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been. The Callaway family, of course, also anguished about Cheryl's murder.
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Daily there appeared to be there appeared to be no motive, none that anyone
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knew of at least, and the incessant question of why, the nagging un
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so certainty only kept the wound from healing. They didn't believe the killer was
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anyone who knew her. That just didn't make any sense to them. Last
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episode, we explored the lack of evidence and motive the reasons detectives believed a
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stranger was the murderer. There may also be evidence, albeit circumstantial, that
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suggests otherwise. The overkill murder of eighteen year old Cheryl Anne Callaway was unlike
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any other that had taken place in the Dallas Fort Worth Arlington metroplex in the
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nineteen seventies. Cases that involved similar victims young petite women and girls. The
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dates when they occurred late January and throughout February couldn't even begin to link.
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The irving woman Barbara Mormon was abducted, stabbed in the neck, and strangled
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to death. Her body dumped in an isolated part of grape Vine in February
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of nineteen seventy one. In February nineteen seventy three, Becky Martin was kidnapped
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from a Fort Worth College campus by someone unknown. Her skeletal remains were found
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several weeks later in a rural area. Becky's cause of death could not be
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determined. Just five days into February of nineteen seventy four, and six days
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after Sheryl Callaway was murdered in Arlington, Fort Worth woman Euretta Franks was stabbed
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to death by a doped up and violent Michael Foster Vines. A few weeks
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later, Carla Walker was abducted by Glenn Samuel McCurley from a Bowling Alley parking
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lot. Her body was found three and a half days later in a rural
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area. In February of nineteen seventy seven, June Ward's body was found on
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the curb at the one thousand block of West Fuller Avenue in Fort Worth.
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She'd been strangled and bludgeoned with a heavy sharp object such as a hatchet,
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by someone unknown. The body of Lesia Magee, who'd been stabbed and her
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throat slashed by an officially unknown assailant, was found in the trunk of her
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car in January of nineteen seventy eight. Like June Ward, Lesha had car
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trouble and is believed to have been killed by someone who posed as a good
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Samaritan. While all of these crimes were performed as if the perpetrator was of
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hell, none quite matched the rage in which Cheryl was killed, except perhaps
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June and Lesha. So in Cheryl's case, why the passionate rage if her
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killer was a complete stranger. Hi, it's me, Alice. I want
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We spoke with Steve Harris, the younger brother of Cheryl Callaway's fiancee,
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Clint Harris, but before we hear from him, it's important to discuss the
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known facts that perhaps support some of what Steve and I spoke about. In
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Denise Hensley's six year anniversary article published on February tenth, nineteen eighty. The
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story's intended purpose, at least as far as Sergeant Dennis Roton was concerned,
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was to get things moving on the case again, and it worked. Later
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that month, a note pertaining to Cheryl's case was slipped under the door of
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the Arlington Police station. The only writing on the note was a license plate
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number. It was a new clue that went nowhere, and one of many
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to come. That was among what Arlington Police Sergeant Roton would call a sprinkling
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of bad leads in Cheryl's case. It was, unfortunately par for the course,
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but other leads to come, along with information obtained since began to tell
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a story. Witnesses who said they were at a car wash at Collins Street
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and Arkansas Lane on the evening of Cheryl's murder came forward. These witnesses say
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that on that night they observed a young woman arguing with a man there.
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This is the same car wash Cheryl stopped at. A friend who said they
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spoke with eighteen year old Cheryl at Woolco discount store shortly before she was murdered
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told detectives that Cheryl was upset about a heated argument she'd had with someone at
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the car wash, and that during the altercation, Cheryl had splashed water on
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the man's new car. It isn't clear what the argument was about, or
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if Cheryl even gave her friend the details, i e. Whether or not
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she knew the man with whom she was exchanging the cross words. Woolcoe was
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located at Pioneer Parkway and New York Avenue, which Cheryl would have had to
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pass on her way to Forum three oh three Mall from the car wash at
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Collins and Arkansas, which is where she stopped, so the location, as
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far as her theorized route checks out. Other witnesses had placed a man pacing
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in front of the Montgomery Ward Department store at Forum three oh three Mall,
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where Cheryl had parked. This man was presumably in an agitated state. Perhaps
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the altercation Cheryl had with the man at the car wash led him to follow
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her, lie in wait and attack the eighteen year old, leaving her dead
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in the parking lot. Sergeant Rowton was confident that at least the man pacing
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was tied to Cheryl's slaying. I believe he intended to take the girl with
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him. The evidence points to that. He said suggesting it was an abduction
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attempt. Now, whether he wanted Cheryl Callaway in particular or just anyone,
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we can't say. Also in nineteen eighty, a few months after the sixth
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anniversary article ran, a letter addressed to reporter Denise Hensley was delivered to the
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offices of the four or Star Telegram. It read, the man who murdered
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that girl in the parking lot is named redacted an address accompanied the name.
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Hensley, of course, took the letter to the Arlington Police. Though skeptical
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of its validity, Sergeant Wroten was diligent about following any and every lead.
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The man named in the letter owned a nineteen seventy three black over white vehicle
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that matched the suspects, according to the person who wrote it. When Sergeant
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Wroton visited the implicated man, the lawman discovered that the man had been still
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and questioned near Forum three three just after the murder happened. He had told
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police in nineteen seventy four that he was just out for a drive going no
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place in particular, and told Sergeant Wroton in nineteen eighty that he washed his
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car after speaking with police. That was a strange thing. To mention to
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say the least, this man took a polygraph and was unfortunately cleared as the
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result. It's unclear if this man was or these men were described in a
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way that was similar to the man the very reliable witnesses who saw Cheryl Callaway
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being killed. What we discussed was Steve Harris, the younger brother of Cheryl's
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fiance Clint Harris. Is difficult to ignore. First, we'll give you an
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idea of how well Steve Harris knew Cheryl, and as a result, you'll
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get to know Cheryl a little better too. Yeah. Well, it was
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at the Dairy Queen, the three or three Dairy Queen. I was working
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there and I think I was fourteen or so, working with Ryl, and
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we were just friends, you know, like anybody you've ever talked to about.
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She's just a lovely person, just a joy to be around, you
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know, just had that infectious smile and just enjoyed being around it. You
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know, I thought, too ascute. And then I got an opportunity to
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transfer over to the division and Bowen Door as an assistant manager. So I
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move over there. Cheryl's two years older than and so again I can't remember
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for I was fourteen hours fifteen, but she was driving, and every once
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in a while she'd just drive over with one of her friends. Sometimes it
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was Sharie, who was her best friend, and you know, we visit
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and talk and whatever. And one night I'm in the back cleaning and she
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shows up and walks in the back and she walks straight up to me and
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gives me this big kiss, and which you know, I was flattered and
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enjoyed. And that's when our little romance began. And I wish I could
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give you a better timeline. I just know I wasn't driving, and she
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was driving, and it was this you know, puppy love kind of thing.
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And I think it lasted maybe six or eight weeks, and then she
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broke up with me. You know, my little heart was broken at first,
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but I go on and now I've got, you know, a new
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girlfriend. And I mean, she could have had another boyfriend in between me
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and Quint. It's just what I do know is after me and Quint got
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together, that Christmas, who was pretty big Christmas for all of us,
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you know, we all had money and could buy everybody in the family gifts,
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and and Cheryl came over and was part of that Christmas celebration. You
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know, she was she was part of the family already. Then a couple
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of weeks later, I don't know exactly, but it was in January.
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I'm the big Joni Mitchell fan, and Clint and Cheryl knew and and just
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one evening out of the blue, come home and Clinton and Cheryl come by
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and gave me for nothing. I'm just a gift. Just gave me Joni
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Mitchell's latest album. I mean, that's how I met Cheryl, and that's
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part of how she was in my life, and how how come she means
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so much to me. She meant something to me as a friend, and
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then in that little puppy love kind of thing, you know, I always
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held her in my heart. Steve, like his brother Clint, was crushed
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when Cheryl was murdered. Ool. This is always the tough one for me,
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Vincent, And I told this to Ally. She chose not to air,
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which I'm glad because it makes it more about me, because it's all
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from my perspective, but it's about Cheryl. But it's from my perspective.
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And I'll tell you exactly what happened. It It burned in my brain it's
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burned in my soul. I had, for some reason, fallen asleep early,
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and I had actually put on that Joni Mitchell album that Clint and Cheryl
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had given to me. I'd put it on and I'd fallen asleep, and
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my sister burst into my room and says Clinton on the phone. So I
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pick up my phone. I don't know if you've ever done this or seeing
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anybody do this, but you know, sometimes somebody's laughing about something. You
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don't know what they're laughing about, but you just kind of started laughing and
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with him. So I pick up the phone and it sounds like Clint is
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just cracking up. So I start to laugh a little bit with him.
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And then I realized he's hysterical. I mean, he's hysterical. And you
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know, he gets out that Cheryl was killed. He did not use the
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word murder. He said Cheryl was killed at the mall, and in my
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brain I automatically think, oh, my gosh, she was in a car
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wreck at the mall. So I, you know, can't drive cars.
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Carter's not there anyway, So I call Clint's best friend, you call him
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Blue. I hate to use that. I hate that nickname. I always
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knew him as Kurt. But anyway, so I called Kurt at work and
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got lucky and he was He said, yeah, I just got a phone
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with Clint. I'm clothing store down and I'm leaving. I said, well,
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come come pick us up, so, you know, close down the
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house and stand outside waiting and Kirk comes screaming in. Kurt again just drives
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like a madman, breaking every vehicle law as there is. And the quickest
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way to get to the Jerry Queen was to cut through the Pizza hot parking
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lot, which Kurt did, which man, he went flying over this two
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and a half foot retaining wall. The lights are all off. The dairy
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queen Klint is again hysterical, just out of his mind, and he gets
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in the car and starts talking, and that's when I learned that she was
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murdered. That's when it all kind of becomes surreal. And again Kurt just
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drives as fast as he can, doesn't just get to the hospital. Last
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episode, we briefly discussed a friend, schoolmate and football player at Sam Houston
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High School who graduated with Cheryl. After interviewing the victim's friends and family,
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detectives discovered that this person had shown interest in dating her. To my understanding,
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they never actually did date. This individual, who will call Bobby for
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our purposes, went on to study at Baylor University, where he played football
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for the Bears. In his football career there, Bobby received accolades for his
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role in conference wins, some of which as a freshman. He was the
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first. Bobby anyway fit the description of the person who murdered Cheryl, and
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fit it well. He was tall, with an athletic build, wore fashionable
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clothing, and sported a medium length afro. Apparently, Bobby also, you're
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a white tetlist with a dark top. Of course, matching a suspect description
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is hardly enough to suggest that person is your man. But considering the other
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witness accounts, the folks at the car wash who witnessed a heated argument between
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a man and someone fitting Cheryl's description, and her friend at Wolco who said
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Cheryl was upset by the altercation, it is interesting the fact that Cheryl splashed
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water on this man's car during the argument. Well. After speaking with several
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people, every one of them said that they were much more likely to do
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such a thing if the person they were arguing with was someone they knew.
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Perhaps the entire car wash incident was based upon Cheryl's refusal of Bobby's advancements toward
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her. Still more evidence is needed. An all spelled awl is a tool
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used by crafts persons to mark or puncture holes in leather, upholstery, wood,
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or other work. They come in different links. Some are straight,
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and some the pickpart curved or bent in different ways for different uses. On
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the auls that are straight, the pick part of the tool is virtually indistinguishable
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from an ice pick, while the handle may or may not be, depending
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on the manufacturer or the time in which it was produced. You'll hear Steve
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refer to the all as a dowling tool in the following audio, and some
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simply call it a pick. There's reason to believe Bobby either owned such a
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tool or had easy access to one. How many people do you know that
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drive around with an ice pick in their vehicle? I mean, yes,
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you're going to a party, whatever, you got a bag of eyes,
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and but I mean you're just driving around town and you happen to have an
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ice pick in your vehicle? How many people? What are the odds it's
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very slim, but if you work in leather, that downing tool is part
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of your livelihood and that's what this kid did. He worked at it was
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on the vision I think it was called Arlington Glass and Leather or Leather and
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Glass. That's where this kid worked. He had access to a dowlling tool.
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In Cheryl's case, if it was an act performed as the result of
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a rejection or perceived slight, it both makes sense and is senseless. At
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the same time, Cheryl Callaway's murder didn't have to be pre planned as as
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in the perpetrator spent days or weeks strategizing. The killer could have simply pre
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planned boxing her in between his and her car during the time she was in
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the mall. It's by understanding the police had believed that he would have kept
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on stabbing and it not broken off. Over the years, Steve Harris has
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pushed the Arlington Police to reinvestigate Cheryl's case again. Forensic technologies were terribly lacking
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in nineteen seventy four, and even when subsequent detectives took over the case.
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Sergeant Dennis Roten in late nineteen seventy nine and Arlington Police legend jim Ford sometime
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in the eighties, they cleared folks using polygraphs unless they had evidence other than
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results provided by a notoriously unreliable machine, of which Bobby was cleared, they
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had to direct resources and manpower elsewhere. When the nineteen nineties rolled around,
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DNA was being used in criminal investigations, meaning Cheryl's killer might be easily identified,
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but there was a huge problem. Desperate from the years of investigation with
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no solid leads, the cops were feeling uncertain about their witnesses. Some began
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questioning whether Cheryl Ann Callaway's killer was a black male, with one unidentified detective
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actually suggesting it might have been a woman. He cited only the witness's description
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of what he called a feminine blouse as his reasoning. To be clear,
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witnesses didn't describe it as feminine, only that it had ruffles and a flower
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print. In nineteen eighty one, when now infamous serial killer Ted Bundy was
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being scrutinized for trimes across the United States, Sergeant Rowton took notice. He
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noted that an ice pick was found among Bundy's tools upon his Utah arrest,
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and that he was convicted of the attempted murder of a woman he had kidnapped
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from a Utah Mall parking lot. It appeared Sergeant Rowton was going through the
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same period initial investigators had gone through, grasping at straws any straw. Upon
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investigating the possibility that Bundy was responsible for Sheryl Callaway's murder, Sergeant Roton discovered
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that Bundy had deposited an unemployment check into his Seattle bank account two days prior
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on January twenty eighth, nineteen seventy four, used a credit card to purchase
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gasoline in Seattle the following day, and abducted his first known victim on either
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late January thirty first or early February first. The activity eliminated Bundy. For
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good measure, Roten sent off the print found on Cheryl's car to compare it
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against Bundy's. The print, apparently a partial, couldn't be linked to Bundy
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or anyone else. No Texas murder committed before nineteen eighty three, it seems,
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would be complete without serial confessor Henry Lee Lucas considered as a suspect while
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visiting Arlington on one of his rock star like tours. Courtesy of the Texas
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Rangers and Williamson County Sheriff Jim Boutwell. Sergeant Roton said he had an uncanny
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memory of two of the crimes he admitted to there. Lucas was in a
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Michigan State penitentiary at the time of Cheryl's murder, according to Jim Maddox's Lucas
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Report, and could not have been responsible for her murder. It's unclear if
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police investigated potential links to other killers area killer, who, like Bundy and
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Lucas, didn't match the suspect description given by the credible witnesses. A man
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named Michael Foster Vines stabbed two women to death in Fort Worth one just days
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after Cheryl Anne Calloway was murdered. He'd previously killed a woman in Illinois as
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well. All the murders Vines said were the result of drug fueled psychosis.
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A man named Danny Paul Bible killed three women and an infant in Texas and
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Louisiana and had strong ties to Weatherford, just west of Fort Worth. One
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of the women was killed with an ice pick. Still, the couple who
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witnessed Cheryl's murder were adamant in their description of the killer. And initial Detective
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Sergeant Mike Adair was clear that they were trustworthy and reliable. They certainly got
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close enough to be able to describe but Cheryl's killer accurately. In nineteen ninety
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police announced that Cheryl's case was again being reviewed using new technologies, though what
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exactly was being done wasn't expounded upon. What has been made clear recently is
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that the evidence in the case has been lost. Some say due to a
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problem with refrigeration, others say a flood occurred and destroyed it, and others
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still say that the evidence was transferred to the DA's office for a time and
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when Arlington Police requested it to be returned, it was nowhere to be found.
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It's an incredibly good bet that the killer's DNA could have been found among
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Cheryl's fingernail clippings since she fa hard. Another attempt was made in two thousand
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and one to reopen the case. This time Detective John Stanton relayed to the
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press his hope that the latent fingerprint lifted from Cheryl's freshly washed car holds the
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key to solving the murder. We've got a fingerprint that's never been through the
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system. Who knows maybe we'll get a match, he said. Cheryl's mother,
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Rose struggles with the fact that no one has been brought before justice for
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her daughter's murder. She's ninety four years old at the time of this recording.
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Police did what they could, she thought, as did Cheryl's father,
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Billy. Billy died in two thousand and one. Though anniversary stories keeping Cheryl
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Callaway's name and case in the public eye have been few and far in between
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since nineteen seventy four, the many detectives who work the case over the years
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have never forgotten, nor has Steve Harris, who alone prompted this year's anniversary
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coverage. The latest include short stories on NBC five, I DFW and in
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the Fort Worth Star Telegram, both in twenty twenty four on the fiftieth anniversary
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of her murder. If you have any information about the nineteen seventy four murder
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of eighteen year old Cheryl Ann Callaway, please contact the Arlington Police Department's Homicide
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Unit at eight one seven four five nine five seven seven to two. We'd
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