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- 0:03Hello, everyone, Welcome to the Millionaire Dentist Podcast, brought to you by
- 0:07four Quadness Advisory. On this podcast, we break down the world of dentistry,
- 0:12finances and business practices to help you become the millionaire dentists you deserve to
- 0:16be. Please be advised we do speak with an honest tongue and may not
- 0:20be safe for work. Hello and welcome. This is Casey Hires back at
- 0:26the Millionaire Dentnist Podcast in studio with co host Jared Bridgeman. Yo, Casey,
- 0:31how's it going. I feel like I'm gonna lua al looking at that
- 0:33T shirt? Back this shirt? Yeah sure, Yeah, thank you,
- 0:37Casey. We just celebrated as a nation the birth of America. How was
- 0:42your Independence Day? Saw a lot of fireworks? Yeah, heard even more.
- 0:47I don't know who's popping them off at midnight, but the little ones
- 0:50were just loving that. For people in other states where it might be harder
- 0:53to get fireworks, in Indiana, people start and stop about a week before
- 0:58and a week after for the July Yeah, yeah, it's lively. We
- 1:02my wife, I made Chicago dogs yesterday. I went and bought a bunch,
- 1:07so I bought one hundred percent beef hot dogs from the butcher shop here
- 1:10in town. I got sport peppers, pickles, tomato onion, neon green
- 1:17sweet relish, and celery salt on a poppy seed bun mustard too. Sounds
- 1:21like the supreme. Yeah. Nice, it's real good. Nice. That
- 1:25was very nice. So yeah, looking, you know, as we as
- 1:27we are celebrating another year of the country and looking at things. You know,
- 1:32you and I were talking about some of the calls you've had, some
- 1:36of the people you've met, some of the people out at the convention as
- 1:38we go to and there seems to be a rising topic for people that are
- 1:45starting to potentially age out of dentistry. What was that? What was that
- 1:49topic? What was that thing that kept popping up for you? A lot
- 1:53of conversations I have. It's it's regret. Okay, it's interesting. I
- 1:57was talking to an older, an older dentisty to his state dental convention,
- 2:01I believe forty straight years boy, and he had just retired and sold his
- 2:07practice and we're just kind of chatting it up and he was asking a lot
- 2:12of questions. But I found it fascinating because he was kind of sad.
- 2:16Yeah, he was like this is probably the last meeting I'm going to come
- 2:20to. Most people I went to dental school, but they don't come anymore.
- 2:22They're all retired. You know. I sold my practice and it was
- 2:25interesting he goes throughout my career, I felt like I was doing okay,
- 2:30and now that I've retired, to look back and there's so many things I
- 2:31could have done better. Right, And he really opened up, but sharing.
- 2:37He was asking about why we were at the convention and what we do,
- 2:40and I mean, he was like, you have business cards and I'm
- 2:43going to pass these out. And it's interesting when I talk to younger dentists
- 2:46sometimes they don't know what they don't know, no, and they don't have
- 2:52maybe professional regrets yet. Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
- 2:55And this sounds funny, but again dentistry isshion where a lot of practice owners
- 3:00can make three four hundred thousand dollars, right, but they should be making
- 3:06five, six or seven. Now, if a younger a dentist, let's
- 3:08say early thirties, you know, is making two hundred three hundred, why
- 3:15why do you think that they at that time of their life are okay with
- 3:19that or at least complacent. Yeah, well, I again, they don't
- 3:23know what they don't know. And so a lot of younger dentists, they're
- 3:25making more money maybe than they thought they would. Their primary stressor's debt.
- 3:30So they're just trying to have a singular focus of it, getting rid of
- 3:32the debt. But they feel like they're doing pretty good and maybe less maybe
- 3:35less familiar ties. Maybe they don't have kids yet, maybe they're not even
- 3:38married. Yeah, I mean, that's it's funny. I talk to people
- 3:42and they're not making as much as they should, and they're overheads high in
- 3:45their practice. There's a lot of stress. But well, you know,
- 3:46thirty four, they're single. There, you know, then all of a
- 3:50sudden, fast forward at forty two, Well you've got a wife or a
- 3:53husband, You've got a couple of kids. They just suck the money out
- 3:57of here. Well it's it's kind of a slow burn where people look up
- 4:00and hopefully they look up and fix the business side before it's too late.
- 4:05But the gentleman I talked to him, and he was like, gosh,
- 4:08I should have I should have done that that side of things better. I
- 4:10love dentistry, but I should have done that better. Looking back he could
- 4:14see over the decades he probably under achieved. And what how many years do
- 4:19you think someone would need to own before they start really feeling that maybe this
- 4:27is not where I wanted to be, or maybe not making what I should
- 4:30what I want to make. Everyone's different for us, we like people to
- 4:32own for two or three years. Typically that's when it kind of starts to
- 4:36settle in. So that first year might be a little honeymoon. Again.
- 4:40They just they don't know they're they're they're just trying to produced industry and not
- 4:45have a revolt within their the staff, right, I mean, that's those
- 4:48are the top stressers typically when they start. But ultimately somebody will get a
- 4:53tax surprise or somebody will see their peers have more than wonder huh. But
- 4:59yeah, tip quickly that you know you're three, three to five. Now
- 5:02for some again, that never hits them. Yep, you know they've they've
- 5:06left five million dollars on the table over the last twenty five years of practicing
- 5:11dentistry. Well and in that case not knowing it was there in the first
- 5:14place. Sometimes, yeah, they're not sad about it until until they run
- 5:17into you. But nobody, nobody wants to regret right, and when I
- 5:21and I get the you know, in fairness, I get to see I
- 5:24get to talk to those folks and and having him just have a fire to
- 5:29pass our card out to people because he now knows young dentists need need to
- 5:33help. But yeah, when when you're younger, it's it's hard sometimes.
- 5:36But how often, and this is this might be I feel like everybody kind
- 5:40of falls into this trap. You know, we're supposed to we should listen
- 5:43to and respect our elders. How many of these young doctors take an older
- 5:47dentist advice when it comes to things like this is that still kind of like
- 5:50that's that's down the road for me, that's that's out there. It's it's
- 5:54hard clinically, there's a lot of advice given and taken and things like that.
- 5:59The older dentists sometimes they're shame that maybe they don't have as much as
- 6:02they should retire. It's so much more of a personal pain than then.
- 6:05Yeah, they don't want maybe skills you never could quite reach it. Yeah,
- 6:10people will do the mentor mentee thing typically with clinical things, but there's
- 6:15a little bit of maybe, like I said, shame and they and people
- 6:16don't want to talk about it, but it's a disservice because so many young,
- 6:19young dentists. You know, some of our best clients their uncle,
- 6:24mom, or dad were dentists, had a practice and said, hey,
- 6:28dentistry is great. This part's hard work with They experienced the firsthand or at
- 6:32least saw firsthand of the stress that their parents or uncle had. Yeah,
- 6:35because every year practice well I'm just going to grow or I'm gonna do this,
- 6:40or they've they've got there. And we've talked before, We've had our
- 6:43owner and c CEO Jason Smith on here talk about the myth of the multi
- 6:46practice. Yeah, yeah, you'll get the younger, Well, I just
- 6:48need one more associate, I need one more practice. I just need I
- 6:51need, I need that one thing is going to change it And they look
- 6:55up and not a lot's change. In fact, it may even be worse.
- 6:59Yeah, if any thing, that's they've just complicated their situation. Yeah.
- 7:02Yeah, the adult babysitting can be tough, but but yeah it's you
- 7:06know, for for those who can master the business side of their practice sooner,
- 7:13it's incredible what can happen or find someone to help them master. But
- 7:15the regret, right, But the regret that I hear more so often from
- 7:20dentists in the kind of the end of their career or what have you.
- 7:24They almost have that moment of gosh, darn it, why didn't I do
- 7:27why didn't I do better at the business side of my practice with insurance,
- 7:30with overhead, with all those things, And say, it's not often you
- 7:34hear them being regretful about particular clinical things. No, I mean that that's
- 7:40where the joy is. But and usually there they you know, a lot
- 7:43of dogs tend to be pretty up to date and what's out there at the
- 7:46moment. Oh yeah, no, that that that's what they enjoy. But
- 7:47yeah, I mean our tagline of you know, find us in your thirties,
- 7:49retired in your fifties. Uh, you know again, people go,
- 7:53well, I would work one er two days a week. That that's fine,
- 7:55But be able to retire in your fifties. If you're not there,
- 7:58why not? Like what's going on in so many practice owners they can't.
- 8:01It's hard to look in the mirror, right, Yes, why aren't you
- 8:03making more money? Why is your overhead so high? Why do you not
- 8:07have a clear plan for retirement? Why is your business model and your practice
- 8:11not mastered. What's up with this tax surprise? And it's they just try
- 8:15to tackle as they come and then think, well, I'll just I'll just
- 8:20try harder, I'll just produce more hopium Right, Hope is a terrible business
- 8:22strategy, and that's a prevalent in dentistry. I mean there's a level of
- 8:28maybe duty to increase production if if your production numbers are not great, because
- 8:33you've got to have some cash to have cash flow. But as you've said
- 8:37multiple times on this podcast, you know, we we help our clients retire
- 8:43earlier, have way more money than they had to be on track, and
- 8:46we do a lot of that with like not increasing production whatsoever. No,
- 8:50No, most of the time it's not a production issue. I mean,
- 8:52if you're over nine hundred thousand in collections, I talk to people you know
- 8:56all over the place million million five two two five, and and typically you
- 9:00don't need more production. You either need two or three of you as a
- 9:03dentist, or you need to find find the right external team to be able
- 9:07to master this for you. But yeah, the regret part was it was
- 9:09it's hard when I talk to the older, older folks that finally come to
- 9:13maybe like an honest clarity or a reflection, right versus the one that's Mindsight's
- 9:18twenty twenty and it's like that Rod Stewart song back when he was in the
- 9:20band The Faces. It's the song La La where he's like, you don't
- 9:24talk about his poor old granddad and he wished he knew all he knew now
- 9:28back then. So I mean it's everybody feels that. But you know,
- 9:31now that I'm middle aged, I'm starting to see that too. Like man,
- 9:33when I was twenty five, I wish I had done X. I
- 9:35didn't know Rod Stuart was in a band. Yeah I learned something today,
- 9:41Yeah, but yeah, no, I mean, what what's the message?
- 9:43You know? Don't don't have regrets? You know? And it sounds so
- 9:46simple, but what why don't we give our listeners a little homework assignment.
- 9:50I want I want you guys to sit down and really think about this,
- 9:54right down. Three professional potential regrets or pains that you have right now as
- 10:00a practice owner or if you're not a practice owner yet, some pains that
- 10:03you've heard when you've been at a study club, we're at a convention,
- 10:07or just budding up with the local local doctor, write down the three things
- 10:11and that they end up being money retirement, Well, resistant urge to put
- 10:15staff like, let's get real right overhead income retirement, a plan, a
- 10:20strategy. You know, how are you going to get to your goal?
- 10:24What is your goal? What do you need to do? Like that,
- 10:24that's when you get down the brass tacks. And if you look and if
- 10:28you look at those what you wrote, you know you can always give us
- 10:31a call sent of email. But I mean it's it's coming up with least
- 10:33it's a starting point of coming up with the plan or at least thinking about
- 10:37it. Hey, when we have meetings with potential people we work with,
- 10:41I go listen, this exercise is good. You're either going to confirm you're
- 10:45confirm you're doing the right things, or you're going to find out that there's
- 10:48a lot of improvements that can be made. And while you've rationalized while making
- 10:52three hundred is just fine, no, actually you should be making five six
- 10:54hundred, and anything less should be unacceptable to you. But right see,
- 11:00I want to thank you so much for coming in today. If you want
- 11:01to learn more about these topics, we are going to be in several cities
- 11:05throughout the rest of the year. We're coming up this week. We're going
- 11:09to be in Indianapolis and Westfield, Indiana doing our continued education and bourbon tasting
- 11:15events or lunch events. We're also going to be in Cleveland, Ohio,
- 11:18and Cincinnati, Ohio. We're coming up through Washington, DC and Chevy Chase,
- 11:22Maryland. We've got La coming up. I think the AGD we're going
- 11:26to be there as well. Yeah, that'll be We're everywhere, you know,
- 11:28ultimately, it's we're everywhere. If you want to help more money,
- 11:33find us. Yeah, yeah, Thanks Casey. That's all the time we
- 11:39have today. Thank you to our guests for their insight and for sharing some
- 11:41really great information, and thank you to you the listener for tuning in.
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