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Highlights for Curtis and Larry · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Glory, hallelujah, I have one victory I can declare right
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  Speaker 1: here on the most listened to morning show and talk
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  Speaker 1: radio in New York City. Larry, Curtis, Natalie, and our
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  Speaker 1: magnificent listeners everywhere. As much as you lampooned me, Larry,
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  Speaker 1: because I know you were basically having a good belly
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  Speaker 1: laugh at my expense. When I held the hand of
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  Speaker 1: Mayor Zoran Mondami.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, you read that completely wrong. You read that
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  Speaker 2: completely wrong. I wasn't having a belly laugh at all.
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  Speaker 2: I felt good that you came out. I love that.
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  Speaker 2: I love that it happened. And it explained a whole lot.
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  Speaker 2: It explained it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, after yesterday, between you and Jimmy Failure and so
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  Speaker 1: many people making fun of me here on the floor
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  Speaker 1: of iHeart.
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  Speaker 2: I would never. I would never make fun of true love.
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  Speaker 2: I would never, ever make fun of it. It explains
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  Speaker 2: a lot. It explains why you'll never attack them. But
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  Speaker 2: now I get it. And I would do the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I would do the same thing for the one I love.
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  Speaker 1: But, Larry, put one up on the board. As a
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  Speaker 1: result of my self-sacrifice in getting that vaccine while holding
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  Speaker 1: hands with the mayor. By the way, his hands were
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  Speaker 1: not sweaty. Everybody who's asked me that.
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  Speaker 2: They were soft. Yeah. How'd they make you feel?
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  Speaker 1: No calluses like mine. Yeah, he had soft hands. But
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  Speaker 1: put one up in the victory chart. Yes. Remember, the
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  Speaker 1: idea is to encourage people to get their flu vaccine. Natalie,
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  Speaker 1: our producer. Got her flu vaccine yesterday. Thank you, Natalie.
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  Speaker 1: You are so welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, she.
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  Speaker 3: I was there for my annual physical.
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  Speaker 1: I had a list of vaccines that I needed.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we'll back up for a second. So you were
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  Speaker 2: there for your annual physical. You were going anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but I had a choice.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you had a choice to cancel or not.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you might not get an appointment for another
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  Speaker 1: six months if you cancel. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, everybody always wants to cancel that appointment. But
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, gosh, I'll never get in again.
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  Speaker 3: But I had a choice of about 10 different vaccines
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  Speaker 3: I could take yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, no, you know what?
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  Speaker 1: Curtis told me.
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  Speaker 2: I should have a flu shot. She is such a
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  Speaker 2: suck up. She's an amazing suck up.
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  Speaker 1: Then I thought to myself, if I do it right now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have to hold anybody's hand when I'm doing
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  Speaker 3: it because I'm here all alone.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Natalie, for that tactical air support, even if
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  Speaker 1: you embellished it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. You know how she lasted this
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  Speaker 2: long for so many hosts?
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  Speaker 1: Just there.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly that.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed that embellishment. But I just want to let
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  Speaker 1: everyone know the flu goes everywhere. In Japan, where I
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  Speaker 1: have guardian angels, 37 straight days of rain. They never
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  Speaker 1: had a worse flu season. And you know, they're all
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  Speaker 1: masked up all the time anyway. So they're flying back
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  Speaker 1: and forth. You know, we have open... communication and travel
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  Speaker 1: with the Japanese. So you better believe as they land
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  Speaker 1: in America, some of that's going to spread. And the
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  Speaker 1: vaccine you get this year was created for the flu
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  Speaker 1: from last year.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here, let me go through exactly how they do that. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: very good. Doctor, doctor. Yeah, it's been explained to me
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  Speaker 2: a million times when I go to do a story
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  Speaker 2: on it. What they look at is the flu in
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  Speaker 2: the Southern Hemisphere because they have an opposite flu season
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  Speaker 2: than we do. Whatever flus are dominant there, that's what
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  Speaker 2: they make the vaccine for. And it's usually two or three.
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  Speaker 2: When you get a shot, it's for two or three
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  Speaker 2: strains of the vaccine. When there's a bad flu season,
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  Speaker 2: like the one you're talking about in Japan, they missed it.
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  Speaker 2: It's something that broke through. They didn't get their flu
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  Speaker 2: vaccine for the right flu strain.
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  Speaker 1: So hold on. I have KGO to... my international director
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  Speaker 1: coming in to have meetings about our international chapters. He's
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  Speaker 1: flying in from Tokyo. Are you trying to say everything
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  Speaker 1: I went through holding the hand of the man may
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  Speaker 1: have been for naught?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wait a second. You love that moment. You said
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  Speaker 2: you were going to faint. We'll be playing again?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. It's quite all right. You might
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  Speaker 1: have to do it again. But I do want to
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  Speaker 1: pivot and shift because yesterday we just ran out of time.
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  Speaker 1: It was a great hour, 8 to 9. with jimmy
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  Speaker 1: failure you know you go to bed with him at
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  Speaker 1: night nine to twelve you wake up with larry and
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  Speaker 1: me in the morning at six and larry you asked
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  Speaker 1: him about americans uh down on college education this recent
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  Speaker 1: uh survey he just uh brought his son up to
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  Speaker 1: a suny college upstate new york you've had children in
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  Speaker 1: college natalie.
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  Speaker 2: Has two in college right now right i.
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  Speaker 1: Have one in college so We just started to get
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  Speaker 1: into it. It was so interesting. If you notice, I
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  Speaker 1: shut up. I was just listening to you and Jimmy failure,
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  Speaker 1: which is something I normally don't do. So I'd like
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  Speaker 1: to sort of.
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  Speaker 2: That's absolutely true.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. It was very interesting hearing his situation, your situation,
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  Speaker 1: Natalie's situation, and it really affects really most of America
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  Speaker 1: now because of what seems to be the shift in
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  Speaker 1: about the need to go to college, which when you
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  Speaker 1: and I grew up, Larry and Natalie, we were encouraged,
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  Speaker 1: got to go to college. You know, your parents, probably
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  Speaker 1: high school graduates, blue collar, you got to go to college.
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  Speaker 1: Now it seems like there's reverse osmosis. Yeah, I will
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  Speaker 1: tell you this. There's a reverse osmosis among the young,
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  Speaker 1: the ones that are going to go to college. You know,
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  Speaker 1: in our generation or the generation that comes right after us,
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  Speaker 1: it's still college is what you need to do.
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  Speaker 2: You need to get a good job. You got to
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  Speaker 2: go to college, you get a good job, you got
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  Speaker 2: to go to college. So that influences the kids that
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  Speaker 2: are coming up. What's really interesting and is what you're
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  Speaker 2: alluding to is that now, because there is this disenchantment
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  Speaker 2: on the future, a lot of it has to do
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  Speaker 2: with AI. They don't think the jobs are going to
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  Speaker 2: be there and they don't think that the opportunities that
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  Speaker 2: their parents had will be there. And so they opt
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  Speaker 2: for other things. Some of them opt for just having
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  Speaker 2: fun and going and exploring and living their life and
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  Speaker 2: seeing the world at the expense of their parents. Others
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  Speaker 2: want to get into trade. Have you seen trade schools? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How their attendance has gone way up. Their enrollment is
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  Speaker 2: sky high. And it makes a lot of sense. You
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  Speaker 2: know you have a job. That's going to pay you
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  Speaker 2: six figures at a certain point in your life. And
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  Speaker 2: maybe more than that, depending on if you open a company,
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  Speaker 2: if you hire other people, then all of the sudden,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you can be a multimillionaire. So they see
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  Speaker 2: that as a more likely path for them.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I had a conversation, young man who had
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  Speaker 1: graduated here in the city, aviation high school, technical high school,
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  Speaker 1: but high end.
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  Speaker 2: If you do five.
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  Speaker 1: Years, which you can do in that school in Queens,
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  Speaker 1: right under the seven train, You can go right into
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  Speaker 1: the field of airlines, maintenance, dealing with all the intricacies
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  Speaker 1: that an airplane needs to be able to fly and
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  Speaker 1: to do so safely. You could be making $ 150, 000 with
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  Speaker 1: five years. at aviation high school. You haven't even gone
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  Speaker 1: on a college yet or a junior college. So you're correct.
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  Speaker 1: There is such a limited number of the needed personnel,
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  Speaker 1: and we can't really bring in foreigners the way we
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  Speaker 1: used to so much, is that we don't have enough
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  Speaker 1: Americans who are trained to do these jobs, and they're
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  Speaker 1: good-paying jobs, too, with a good career.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot. My son, my oldest son, who
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  Speaker 2: is near 40... was working for a high end company
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  Speaker 2: in San Francisco. He got to work at home because
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  Speaker 2: he was working on making all of their, their videos
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  Speaker 2: for them, but also it in learning all this stuff
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  Speaker 2: about network security, how to keep your network safe. If
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  Speaker 2: you have a business, big company, huge company, all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden they laid all these people off because they
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  Speaker 2: figured out many of the things they're already doing can
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  Speaker 2: be done by AI. Ah, And so he was one
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  Speaker 2: of the first ones to get hit by that. And
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  Speaker 2: now he's trying to rethink, what am I going to
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  Speaker 2: do for a career? What should I do now? Because
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  Speaker 2: what he did, that's being replaced nationwide by AI.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Right off the bat, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I live in an apartment up west side. Locksmiths, well,
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  Speaker 1: they're not enough. I mean, people constantly locking themselves out
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  Speaker 1: of their apartment. And you know, if you call them
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  Speaker 1: after hours, oh my God, it's like triple the normal amount. Plumbers.
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  Speaker 2: Totally.
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  Speaker 1: Electricians just go right on down the line. All the
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  Speaker 1: things that our dads and our uncles grew up learning
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  Speaker 1: in vocational high school and ended up doing very well
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  Speaker 1: for themselves, sometimes getting a small business if they had
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  Speaker 1: the desire. It's come full circle. We just don't have
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  Speaker 1: enough of those skilled people. And you're not necessarily wanting
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  Speaker 1: to hire an illegal alien, you know, who is doing
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  Speaker 1: that work in Calejico in Mexico, who, you know, never
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  Speaker 1: had an apprenticeship. You don't know where they learned their skills.
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  Speaker 1: You know, do they know the difference between the red
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  Speaker 1: wire and the blue wire? So you are absolutely correct,
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  Speaker 1: but there can be a way to conflate the two.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, there can be. And he's still trying. And in
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  Speaker 2: the meantime, he's got like four other jobs that he's
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  Speaker 2: put together, sewed together to make a living. But what's
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  Speaker 2: really fascinating is as many people that are getting into
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  Speaker 2: the plumbing and the electricians and all the trades... there's
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  Speaker 2: still a great need for it. I mean, have you
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  Speaker 2: ever tried to hire a plumber? I mean, I'll get
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  Speaker 2: to you in 10 days. No, no, there's water all
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  Speaker 2: over my floor. Can you get over here sooner?
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  Speaker 1: And the next reason we have to do this is
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  Speaker 1: to save the job that Natalie's daughter has because she
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  Speaker 1: works in a university.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, works in higher ed.
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  Speaker 1: And so if all of a sudden, some of these
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  Speaker 1: universities start, if not just closing, but eliminating classes and
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  Speaker 1: opportunities for higher education. Natalie's daughter may be suddenly a
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  Speaker 1: lifetime resident of your basement. Exactly. She is right now,
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  Speaker 1: but we do let her up on the second floor.
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  Speaker 2: You let her up on the second floor to visit?
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean by that?
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  Speaker 3: She is welcome for as long as she wants and needs.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure she would love to live somewhere else, honestly. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I can imagine.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I want to hear from our listeners. How can
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  Speaker 1: our listeners weigh in on this, Larry?
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  Speaker 4: On 710WOR.
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  Speaker 1: Less than a month before the midterms, and boy, I
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  Speaker 1: saw Republicans all over the state of New York jumping
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  Speaker 1: on big stories that involved illegal aliens committing crimes, being
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  Speaker 1: released by local authorities because this is a sanctuary state,
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  Speaker 1: and not cooperating with ICE who had detainers for them. First,
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  Speaker 1: there was Blakeman. There was Lawler. They were talking about
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  Speaker 1: upstate Putnam County Brewster. Now, get this. Here's a guy.
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  Speaker 1: His name is Diego Rodriguez Ordonez. He's wanted for a
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  Speaker 1: series of crimes. He had been arrested for a series
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  Speaker 1: of crimes. Total illegal alien. In one day alone, he
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  Speaker 1: commits two serious crimes. So he robs a Kent convenience
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  Speaker 1: store and assaults the clerk. That was last Wednesday. He's released.
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  Speaker 1: They put an ankle bracelet on him saying he's under
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  Speaker 1: supervised release. They never inform ICE because they have a
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  Speaker 1: detainer for him. He's arrested that same night for forcibly
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  Speaker 1: touching a woman on a Metro North train. Finally, they
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  Speaker 1: put bail into effect, $ 20, 000, and still would not contact
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  Speaker 1: ICE to have him picked up.
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  Speaker 2: You say to yourself, my God, two.
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  Speaker 1: In one day with an ankle bracelet on, perving on
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  Speaker 1: a woman at the end. That was just the start
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  Speaker 1: of a very hectic day for those who believe in
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  Speaker 1: law and order. Because, you know, that police officer was
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  Speaker 1: off duty up in the Bronx, 44th Precinct, Mercedes, He's
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  Speaker 1: been honored. He was up in the Norwood section of
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  Speaker 1: the Bronx, 208th Street, and he was going into the
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  Speaker 1: back of his car. He was off duty and was
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  Speaker 1: going into the trunk. And two guys, not on a
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  Speaker 1: motorbike or an e-bike, they were on a mountain bike,
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  Speaker 1: which meant they could be like stealth, snuck up to him.
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  Speaker 1: Two illegal aliens from the D.R. had a long track
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  Speaker 1: record of arrests. And again, ICE was looking for them.
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  Speaker 1: No cooperation from the NYPD. They sneak up to him.
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  Speaker 1: They see he's wearing gold chains. So they immediately confront him.
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  Speaker 1: He confronts them back. Doesn't give him the gold chain.
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  Speaker 1: They slice him up seven times. He's bleeding everywhere. He's
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  Speaker 1: lucky to have survived. He went to Jacoby Hospital and
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  Speaker 1: was released yesterday. Heroes welcome. All the cops were there,
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  Speaker 1: you know. the PBA, all the unions to lend him support.
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  Speaker 1: And then they released the photos of these two guys
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  Speaker 1: who were so brazen they didn't even wear masks. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they're on that mountain bike. They're basically looking up at
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  Speaker 1: the camera. Let me give you a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: an idea of who these enemies of society are. First
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  Speaker 1: guy is Caraballo. He's the guy on the back, no shirt.
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  Speaker 1: October 26, he gets busted with a gun and ammunition.
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  Speaker 1: Bale was asked for a Bronx DA $ 30, 000. Judge released
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  Speaker 1: him without bail, supervised release. He went out. He did
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  Speaker 1: it again July 10th. He pulls a knife on a
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  Speaker 1: guy and says, today is your last day, he tells
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  Speaker 1: him in Spanish. He's arrested, weapons possession, menacing. The ICE
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  Speaker 1: agents are looking for this guy, right? And the cops
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  Speaker 1: know it, NYPD. Now, normally the cops would help, but
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  Speaker 1: they restricted. This time he's released on Cuomo's no cash bail.
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  Speaker 1: You say to yourself, this is just one guy of
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  Speaker 1: the two. And the other guy, the guy was actually
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  Speaker 1: in the front of the bicycle pedaling, is Mejia. He
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  Speaker 1: snuck through Arizona, detained by border agents, but then allowed
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  Speaker 1: to go through under Biden. December of 2024, he's busted.
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  Speaker 1: Possession of burglar tools. He's breaking into cars. ICE had
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  Speaker 1: issued a retainer for him. NYPD was aware of it,
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  Speaker 1: not permitted to cooperate. Then in May of 2025, a
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  Speaker 1: federal judge signs a deportation order for him. And in October,
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  Speaker 1: he's busted for weapons possession and declined. The NYPD declined.
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  Speaker 1: You're acting like you're shocked. No, not shocked.
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  Speaker 2: No, you shouldn't be. This happens every single day in
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  Speaker 2: this country. It's still happening. And the whole reason that
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  Speaker 2: the crime rate is down, Jessica Tisch got up and
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  Speaker 2: took credit for that. They took credit for it in St.
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  Speaker 3: Louis.
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  Speaker 2: They're taking credit for it in Denver. That's all Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: All of it is Donald Trump. The fact that the
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  Speaker 2: crime rate is going down is that he's rounding up
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  Speaker 2: all of the people that you're talking about because they
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  Speaker 2: are many. They are plentiful. They're all across the country,
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  Speaker 2: and they are still committing crimes. And listen, for the
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  Speaker 2: last time, and I want to keep saying this over
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  Speaker 2: and over again because I've heard it now come up
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  Speaker 2: on the campaign trail. Oh, no. People that are here
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  Speaker 2: illegally commit less crimes than U.S. citizens per capita. That's BS.
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  Speaker 2: You know why that happens? It's because they are not
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  Speaker 2: allowed in all of the sanctuary cities and states to
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  Speaker 2: report their immigration status to the FBI. And so it
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  Speaker 2: looks like the numbers are down a little bit. It
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  Speaker 2: looks like there are less crimes. crimes committed by those
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  Speaker 2: who are here illegally than the rest of the citizens. It's, it's,
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  Speaker 2: it's absolutely a lie. And that's what sanctuary cities do.
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  Speaker 2: But I am so sick. of hearing from now candidates
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  Speaker 2: running for the Democratic Party who are saying that they're
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  Speaker 2: going to find legal status for everyone in this country,
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  Speaker 2: a path to legal status for everyone that is here illegally,
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  Speaker 2: because these crimes are going to keep happening over and
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  Speaker 2: over and over again. And we're not going to know
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  Speaker 2: about it. Because they can't say what their legal status
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  Speaker 2: is in most of the sanctuary cities. And then they
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  Speaker 2: won't hand them over to ICE. This is insanity. And
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  Speaker 2: so I want you to remember this. If you don't
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  Speaker 2: remember anything else, remember what it was like under Biden.
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  Speaker 2: Remember how much we suffered. Remember the fraud that was
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  Speaker 2: caused because of that. And then remember the death and
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  Speaker 2: the people that are still mourning someone that died because...
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden let anybody into this country, and now you
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  Speaker 2: have a man who is trying to fix that and
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  Speaker 2: is actually lowering the crime rate across the country, and
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you're upset about gas prices? That's what you're going to
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: vote on? Yes. You forget how everything else is a mess?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: That's how you're going to vote?
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Larry.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Please, please. Okay, then give up. Larry, it's not even
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: on the radar scale. That's what I'm trying to tell people.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: I understand that. I'm not disagreeing with you. But you
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: know how an election cycle goes. It's affordability, cost of living,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: and the war in Iran. Those are the three big issues.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's not for me.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: The Democrats are telling you what they're going to do.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: They're already saying it publicly. We're going to make everybody legal.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: And they're still going to get voted for when you
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: tell a story like that? Yep.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: It's insane. In New York City. Look, just last year,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I'll give you the final stat. Last year... New York
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: city released 7,000 illegals, despite them having committed crimes and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: ice requesting a detainer. That doesn't mean ice picks them
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: up in the street. So it knocks on their door,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: goes to there where they're working. They're just going to
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: go to where they're being detained and pick them up.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: And the NYPD has been told because this is a
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: sanctuary state and city. No, don't hand them over.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: And part of that is political to force ice out
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: into the streets, to make them look bad. When, if
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: you in Nassau County, Talk to Bruce Blakeman about how
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: he did it. They didn't have any of those problems.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: They had none of the problems in the communities because
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: they were handing everybody over in the jails like they
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: were supposed to.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I concur. Curtis Lewa and Larry Minty. They're better together.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: On 710WOR. Well, there are two executions that are getting
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of attention. I know executions always get a
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: lot of attention, but these two are unusual because they
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: are firsts. Well, one is the first since 1961, but
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: somebody surviving two lethal injections is unprecedented. And Krista Pike,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: who survived Tennessee's attempt to put her to death via legal...
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: lethal injection last week, will be in court Wednesday, apparently.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: She is speaking. She seems to be coherent at this point.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: So it is a full recovery at this point. Pike
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: has been hospitalized for nearly a week after being injected.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: by two fatal doses of pentobarbital. On Tuesday, her attorney
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: said she was finally conscious and speaking, though she continues
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: to receive critical medical care and suffered some damage to
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: her arms, but no damage that is discernible at this
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: point to her heart or to her brain. Her prognosis
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: remains a little bit unclear, but at a minimum, they
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: expect a recovery even though it will be a lengthy recovery.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: And the reason, this is all coming from the defense attorneys,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: the reason they keep talking about a lengthy recovery is
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: because they say that she should not be put to
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: death while she is recovering. And so a recovery that's
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: going to take a year would be wonderful for her.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: A recovery that's going to take 10 years would be
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: wonderful for her. In the meantime, Krista Pike and her
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: attorneys are suing the state for cruel and unusual punishment.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: That's why they're going to be having a hearing. I've
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: read that from CNN about Krista Pike being there, and
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: she's not going to be there. She's not going to
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: be there. It's going to be her attorneys that are
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: going to be representing her, and they're coming after the
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: state on this, and they should. They absolutely botched it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: The head of the prisons had to resign over this.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: And listen, this was 23 years in the making from
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: when she was sentenced. 23 years it took. And tens
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: of millions of dollars. And then they botch it. This
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: is the whole reason I'm against the death penalty. Just
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: for this. I mean, I'm not against it in theory,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: but the way it is applied now, it makes no sense.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Side issue. Every time there's lethal injection, no matter who
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: it is, whoever the attendants are, do you know what
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: they do first before they find the vein and they
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: inject you? They swab you down with alcohol.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I always wondered, wait a second, the guy or the, well,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: mostly it's guys. In fact, Krista Pike is the first
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: woman to face execution in Tennessee in 200 years, 200 years.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: But they swab you down with alcohol. Make sure you
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: don't get an infection.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Well, in this case.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: In this case, maybe it could have helped a little bit.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: So it's become, believe it or not, a political issue. Now,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Governor Bill Lee was proud of the fact that he
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: had four slated for execution. She was the first. Didn't
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: quite work out, as they had hoped. But I didn't know.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: He's not running for re-election. Marsha Blackburn, who is the senator,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: is running for the governorship. And she's made this now
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the campaign issue. No, you got to give her the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: electric chair. As you mentioned, Natalie, the last time she
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: originally requested hanging because she says. My veins are so small.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I always have a hard time taking any kind of
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: an injection. So hang me instead.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: She almost had a premonition of this, honestly, because she
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: really said she would rather have another way.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: And that is one of the things that's going to
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: be brought up tomorrow when they go to court is
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: that she didn't want this and they turned her down
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: for another method. So that's definitely going to come up.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to avoid the death penalty, though.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: And that's what they're trying to do. They're not going
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: to avoid the death penalty because the governor really had
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: a good case when he said, it's not my decision.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: This is what the people want. This is the people
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: voted for this. They want this overwhelmingly. And then when
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you talk to the mother of the victim who traveled
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: there to watch this, and do you know nobody apologized
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: to her? Nobody said, I'm sorry. Nobody was there to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: console her. They were so worried about themselves and then
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: screwing up. They didn't realize there's this crying woman whose
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: daughter was tortured, almost had her head cut off, who
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: was there to finally see justice and then had to
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: drive home. I can't even imagine the trauma of that mother.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: No.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I can't even imagine. And that's why. I mean, Krista Pike,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I'd rather put her in prison and just forget about her.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Now she's become... some type of a pseudo-celebrity.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: But there is a potential way to stay the execution.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: We know it won't be the governor. The United States
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Supreme Court has ruled in the past you can't execute
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: if they don't understand. Now, she's going to come into court,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: but she may not be fully cognizant, if you understand
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Right. This has been done before. Remember
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Vinnie the Chin Gigante. If you're not fully cognizant, The
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: United States court decision says you cannot execute. So I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: would think that might be a strategy since they've talked
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: with their client. And I don't think the client wants
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: to die. Some people do, but I think most clients
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: facing the death penalty want to live.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: And if you read in between the lines of what
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the attorney is saying, this is going to be a long,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: she's still in critical condition, even though the hospital's not
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: saying that. She's still in critical condition. She's not aware
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: of what's going on. What you're saying makes a whole
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: lot of sense when you listen to what he says. Well,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: apparently she was on a ventilator. I know what that's like.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I was on a ventilator once and they had to
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: remove the drug from her system, you know, so it
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: wouldn't stay.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: So it took a process and there's burns on her arms.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: In the process, she was handcuffed and shackled to the bed,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: which this happens no matter who you are. If you're
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: in the custody of the state or the county or
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the city or the federal government, whatever medical procedure, you
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: are handcuffed and shackled. I saw that myself in Bellevue
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: after I had been shot and was recovering. Every second
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: bed was from somebody in Rikers and they were all
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: handcuffed and shackled. But this will be interesting today.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: It is going to be really fascinating. That's a tremendous point.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I will tell you this, and this is as an aside,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: because you were talking about what executions have been like
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: in the past and checking for veins and putting some
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: alcohol in. When John Wayne Gacy was killed, I was
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: allowed in two days before to see where he was
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: going to be held, where they were going to put
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: him on the gurney. And to see the execution room
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: and where they push all the buttons to first put
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: him to sleep and then second to give him the
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: lethal injection. I will tell you what's really fascinating. They
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: have either two or three sets of buttons. And some
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: of them are fake. Some of them don't do anything.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: But it's so that the person that executes doesn't know
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: it's them.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Now, was that … I'm thinking, I've been at two
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: prisons in Illinois, Joliet or Statesville. Statesville, right down where
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan was born, Dixon, Illinois.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in Joliet. That's where he was put
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: to death.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: That is an ominous prison.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: That's where he was put to death. It's so funny.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I went in and I talked to the warden and
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I said, okay, we're going to set up an interview.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, I'm not talking to you. I said, well,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: who's going to talk to us? And they said, nobody. Nobody.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: You can take pictures. We're not talking about it. So
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I pretend that I was John Wayne Gacy and walk
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: through the entire process.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Now, there's another.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: What a big Emmy for that, though.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Now, there's another aspect to this. As Marsha Blackburn, U.S.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Senate in Tennessee, running for governor, says, give her the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: electric chair. I didn't know this. Pike initially rejected the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: electric chair because she's now a Buddhist. This story has
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: so many layers.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: It's so bizarre. Did she, for some reason, and maybe
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: this is not right because I'm not looking this up.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I'm remembering this. Did she want to be shot? Did
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: she want to be executed by firing squad?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: No, hung. Oh, hung.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: That's what it was. Okay.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: You get a choice, you see, in Tennessee. Can I
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: ask a ridiculous question?
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Why, being a Buddhist, would the electric chair be, like,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Being hung is better than electric chair. I wonder why.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Maybe you'll have a chance to ask a defense attorney.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I got to know.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Probably something about your soul or your second life or
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: something like that.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe, maybe, okay. This whole story is a movie waiting
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: to be made.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Let's quickly talk about the other execution. President Donald Trump
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: has approved the execution of Fort Hood mass shooter Nidal Hassan. Now,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: here you go. So I just said to you why
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I would be against the death penalty. And then you
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: hear a case like Nidal Hassan where you're like, well,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: he should die. He's going to die by firing squad.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: It's going to be the first military execution since 1961.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: But this guy absolutely deserves it. In November of 2009,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: you'll remember, he killed 13 unarmed soldier at Fort Hood
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: in Texas and injured 23 others. And so he just
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: went on a rampage. And so, yeah, he deserves to die.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: And he was an army major, a shrink, a psychiatrist
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: dealing with men at Fort Hood, the largest army base
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: in the country who may have been suffering from post-traumatic stress,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: you know, coming back from. being overseas in war. This
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: guy was pro-Taliban the whole way, and they never vetted
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: that out from this guy.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. The whole story was amazing at the time.