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55KRC Friday Show - Ken Kober, Tech Friday, Brigham Mc Cown, Cory Bowman, Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Five oh five, fifty five k r C the talk station.
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Speaker 1: Hey Friday, and it's a week will I No, it's
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Speaker 1: Friday with the Woohoo. Thank you, Joe Streker, you get
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Speaker 1: producer of the fifty five KRC Morning Show. My name
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Speaker 1: is Brian Thomas. You can find me online fifty five
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Speaker 1: kr sea dot com. We want to check out podcasts
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Speaker 1: from the prior days or any actually any day's podcast.
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Speaker 1: You can just scroll back and scroll back and scroll back.
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Speaker 1: They stay up there. Today we talk with Judge Leah
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Speaker 1: dink Locker, who would really appreciate your vote in November.
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Speaker 1: Appointed by the Wine last spring and has done a
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Speaker 1: great job and obviously the genetics are great. Daughter of
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Speaker 1: Pat dink Locker, who's just an out standing judge. Congressman
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Speaker 1: Warren Davidson on the program yesterday as well, So check
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Speaker 1: that out. Fifty five krer sea dot com. Coming up
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Speaker 1: on the fifty five care See Morning Show. Spending a
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Speaker 1: lot of time here on the show of late FLP
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Speaker 1: President Ken Coober about the full reinstatement of since I
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Speaker 1: Police Captain the Needa Pettis with backpay because police Chief
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Speaker 1: threes that DG placed her on leave for apparently trumped
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Speaker 1: up reasons. After investigation, the committee determined it was trumped up.
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Speaker 1: I'll get details on that in a little bit so
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Speaker 1: we can talk to Ken Cober with the background information. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: Tech Farday with Dave Hatter, what caused the Rizon outage?
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Speaker 1: That's a real actually is quite eye opening. Apparently one
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Speaker 1: of the largest or rather longest, not largest longest outages
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Speaker 1: for cell phone service one hundred and fifty or so
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Speaker 1: thousand people but for ten hours. So that's what we'll
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Speaker 1: we talk about with Dave Hatter. He has an opinion
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Speaker 1: piece to talk about. Dave had or the benefits of
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Speaker 1: the Kentucky Consumer Data protect which dovetails quite nicely into
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Speaker 1: something the FTC has addressed. Frightening stuff GM's been doing
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Speaker 1: with your data among other car companies, and finally the
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Speaker 1: worst products at the Consumer Electronics Show. Good Brigham mccow
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Speaker 1: and in studio his podcast Charged Conversations. He's brilliant when
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Speaker 1: it comes to matters involving electricity generation, grid needs, and
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Speaker 1: his Charge Conversation podcast really great insight into all of
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Speaker 1: that on a regular basis. Brigham account from Hudson Institute
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Speaker 1: returns the program in studio for the seven o'clock hour.
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Speaker 1: We've got lots of talk about, including Pennsylvania having a
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Speaker 1: bit of a problem as the demands on our electric
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Speaker 1: grid continue to increase, and they are increasing by just
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Speaker 1: leaps and bounds, exponential increase in demands, mostly driven by
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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, but also electric cars and everything else we're
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Speaker 1: hooking up to the grid. We can't keep up with it.
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Speaker 1: And the biggest culprit in the room, the biggest problem
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Speaker 1: in the room is the regulatory environment built largely if
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Speaker 1: I may argue again on the idea of eliminating carbon
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Speaker 1: dioxide Jecko, what it did to Germany, biggest economy in Europe,
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Speaker 1: one of the world's largest economies. It's just cut its
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Speaker 1: own throat. It's so so tragic. And as I stare
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Speaker 1: at an article which everybody needs to read, I'm maybe
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Speaker 1: able to throw in a few just boil down facts
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Speaker 1: from this article. Ian Miller, writing on behalf of OutKick,
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Speaker 1: which rewatched early this year in January, rewatched an Inconvenient
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Speaker 1: Truth by our friend Al Gore. You remember that two
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Speaker 1: thousand and six documentary, Yeah, guess what you were lied to?
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Speaker 1: Just based on the I know he predicted a lot
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Speaker 1: of things. You know, how many of his predictions came true? None,
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Speaker 1: everybody got all ginder. Oh my god, we're all gonna die.
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Speaker 1: No snow on Mount Kilman Jar of the Great Glacier
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Speaker 1: is gonna be gone. The world's gonna sink. No, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: no no no. It didn't and in many cases actually
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Speaker 1: got better. How many times we have to say we've
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Speaker 1: all been lied to, biggest fraud perpetrated on mankind ever
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Speaker 1: in the history of humanity. We're all suffering for it.
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Speaker 1: That's why we had Brigham McCown to talk about the
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Speaker 1: realities of these stupid regulations. Anyway, Corey Bowman will be
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Speaker 1: in studio, remember him, Meryll candidate Corey Bowman. He showed
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Speaker 1: up at eight oh five. We'll talk about what he's
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Speaker 1: been up to. Crime over on the West End and
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Speaker 1: a local article about the number of cameras that are
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Speaker 1: going to be put up. I guess they didn't need
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Speaker 1: Greg Landsman's million dollars that he allegedly secured in that
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Speaker 1: funding bill job. Remember he was crowing about that bringing
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Speaker 1: the cities. Since any million dollars for cameras, you think
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Speaker 1: we've got that money yet? No, no. I mean, if
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Speaker 1: you pass the legislation, it always takes a little while
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Speaker 1: to get the money here. But apparently we don't need
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Speaker 1: him accorded reportings since they putting in one hundred, one
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Speaker 1: hundred security cameras. Yeah, we're installing a repairing ninety security
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Speaker 1: cameras across the city the next four weeks, four weeks,
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Speaker 1: corner City council Member Scottie Johnson. In the next four weeks,
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Speaker 1: ninety plus cameras throughout the city of Cincinni will either
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Speaker 1: be repaired or installed. It's about times that they've been
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Speaker 1: making promises along these lines for a couple of years.
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Speaker 1: But then I go back to the funding. Apparently they've
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Speaker 1: been sitting on it. They have the ability, they money
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Speaker 1: to do it, they just didn't have the wherewithal or motivation.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Iris Rawley doesn't like cameras. I don't know. So
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Speaker 1: Corey Bullman on that, I'm sure in a lot more.
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Speaker 1: Then finally, Jack wins are edited in chief of the
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Speaker 1: Ohio Press Network and host of The Windsor Report. Jacksonan
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Speaker 1: on the program quite a few times. We'll talk about
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Speaker 1: ice in Ohio, not winter ice. I know you know
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Speaker 1: that Immigration's customs enforcement. Plus he'll talk about property taxes.
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Speaker 1: There's your lineup for today five on three, seven, four,
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Speaker 1: nine fifty eight two three talk five five fifty on
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Speaker 1: AT and T phones. So let's see here. What's the
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Speaker 1: story with FLP President Ken Kober's appearing on the morning show?
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Speaker 1: Coming up in less than an hour. An outside panel
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Speaker 1: ordered the city of since Ay to fully reinstate a
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Speaker 1: veteran police captain, Danita Pettis, who was fired two years
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Speaker 1: ago along with Backpack. Now the city can either reinstate
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Speaker 1: her or appeal the decision. I think they should do
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Speaker 1: the former. Actually, fifty five year old Pettis worked for
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Speaker 1: the CPD more than twenty five years. That were agency's
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Speaker 1: highest ranked black female when police chief then I should
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Speaker 1: say police chief three Stigi fired her. Remember she's on
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Speaker 1: paid administrative leave for reasons we don't even know. It
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Speaker 1: happened in December twenty four for dishonesty, insubordination, and rule
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Speaker 1: violations including time slash overtime issues. Sounds pretty serious at
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Speaker 1: the time, since a police department said that pettis conduct
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Speaker 1: undermined the department's standards of integrity, accountability and dishonesty. Is
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Speaker 1: a severe violation in law enforcement. All right, fine, that
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Speaker 1: was that. This is now her lawyer speaking with Fox
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Speaker 1: nineteen Local. Thank you Jennifer Edwards Baker for reporting claimed
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Speaker 1: determination was retaliatory after she filed a complaint with the
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Speaker 1: Ohiuse Civil Rights Commission alleging unlawful discrimination retaliation by the city.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: Oh, can't do that to your boss. You might get fired.
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Speaker 1: Guess what she won her arbitration. She's on paid adminision.
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Speaker 1: The chief is on paid administratively. As it is mentioned Fiji,
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Speaker 1: I'm subject to her own investigation. Again. They had to
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Speaker 1: hire an outside law firm to investigate police chief Threes
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Speaker 1: Thigi after being placed on administratively because they didn't have
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Speaker 1: a reason to put her on administrative leave. What ever,
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Speaker 1: love and hell is going on in downtown Cincinnati. Just anyway,
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Speaker 1: I will interject, I might violate the FCC. Ken Kober,
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Speaker 1: speaking with the News and arbita Penel has ordered a
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Speaker 1: the full reinstatement of Cincinni Police Chief Captain Danita Pettis
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Speaker 1: with back pay, delivering a clear rejection of the city
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Speaker 1: administration's unfounded effort to terminate a respected officer. This decision
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Speaker 1: highlights a troubling pattern under Mayor aftab pro Ball's administration
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Speaker 1: of pursuing baseless allegations against experienced leaders while violent crime escalates.
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Speaker 1: Captain Pettis endured a fabricated process aimed solely at forcing
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Speaker 1: her out close quote Ken Cober, I'm sure he'll elaborate
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Speaker 1: on that coming up after the top of the hour
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Speaker 1: news he set after a week of testimony during her arbitration,
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Speaker 1: the weak charges fell apart completely, he said. Also, the
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Speaker 1: case fits a larger pattern where the administration targets employees
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Speaker 1: without costs, shifting blame from its own failures in keeping
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Speaker 1: Sincineti saved. The charges failure of good behavior and subordination,
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Speaker 1: neglective duty, and dishonesty proved to be mere pretexts. H
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Speaker 1: So there's another check that will be written. Panel's ruling
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Speaker 1: fully vindicates Captain Pettis and exposes the process as unjustified.
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Speaker 1: And now please Chief Thiji herself to the investigation by
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Speaker 1: the pur Ball administration. Yeah, and do you think Police
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Speaker 1: Chief Thresa Thigi at the time she let this woman
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Speaker 1: go on these apparently fabricated allegations, do you think she
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Speaker 1: was ordered to do that? Do you think someone whispered
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Speaker 1: in Police Chief Teresa Thigi's ear that this woman needs
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Speaker 1: to go for whatever reason. They need a penance. You
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Speaker 1: need to get rid of her. Why make something off?
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Speaker 1: Could it have been the complaint that she filed to
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Speaker 1: the Ohio Civil Rights Commission? Maybe? And it's kind of
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Speaker 1: unclear based on part of the reporting whether Police Chief
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Speaker 1: three she took the stand or otherwise testified of this arbitration.
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Speaker 1: Find out what the motivations were behind it. Clearly the
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Speaker 1: file didn't have enough to support the reason that they
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Speaker 1: claimed she got fired. H I said, keep your popcorn
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Speaker 1: out right and checks left and right out of the
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Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati. Thank you the city taxpayers, getting up
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Speaker 1: going to work today, earning a living so that that
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Speaker 1: percentage of your income can go to the city for
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Speaker 1: all these very important objectives. And then maybe by next
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Speaker 1: year you'll be paying even more five or sixteen. Right now,
10:21
Speaker 1: if you have kr CD talk stations stick around planning
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Speaker 1: to talk about I'd love to hear from you as well,
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Speaker 1: so feel free to give me.
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Speaker 2: A call.
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Speaker 1: W KRC, Cincinnati, and I'd be cold. I guess the
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Speaker 1: dog won't be taking a walk on Sunday morning, twenty
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Speaker 1: four be the hyder in the day. Right now, it's
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Speaker 1: twenty degrees if you've have car CD talk station, I'm
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Speaker 1: Donald J.
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Speaker 3: Trump.
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Speaker 1: Can I improve this message about twenty eighty on a
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Speaker 1: Friday and a happy Friday? Ye, except for my dog?
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Speaker 1: Good morning? Call that twenty degrees out there right now? Yes,
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Speaker 1: and you're not going to be going on the walk. Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean, how about you tell I have to acknowledge
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Speaker 1: that there's a Paul out in the listening audience. Showed
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Speaker 1: up a listener lunch and was talking to She goes,
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Speaker 1: every time you mentioned your wife, Paultt, I always think
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Speaker 1: you're talking to me. So good morning Paul, my other Paultte.
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Speaker 1: And as we were talking about the name Paultte, I said, oh,
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Speaker 1: you're the other one, because not a very common name.
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Speaker 1: And I said, my daughter, or my god daughter, my
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Speaker 1: wife is a twin. Her brother's name, of course, Paul.
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Speaker 1: And she goes, oh my god, I've got a brother
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Speaker 1: named Paul too. So small world. Anyway, good morning to
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Speaker 1: the two paulettes. And a shout out, and I admit
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Speaker 1: to an allergy outbreak this morning. I've been letting folks know,
11:36
Speaker 1: you know, about the whole going through the chemo treatment
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Speaker 1: and all that. I had it yesterday. Yes, it was
11:42
Speaker 1: in fact six hours, but a time went by quickly,
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Speaker 1: had my laptop, watched a movie. Then my son came
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Speaker 1: and visited me. He brought me some Chick fil A
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Speaker 1: nuggets for lunch, and I was not on my diet,
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Speaker 1: but it tasted really good and I was hungry by
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Speaker 1: that point. I got to spend some time talking with him,
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Speaker 1: and then you know what, the next thing, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's over, so not nearly as you know bad as
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Speaker 1: I built it up in my head, and of course
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Speaker 1: you know, it's what you got to do. And Joe said,
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Speaker 1: I was gonna mention you, Joe. Joe reached out and
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Speaker 1: asked how I was doing. A lot of folks, did
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Speaker 1: a lot of folks send me text messages reaching out.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people have been comment on Facebook, and
12:16
Speaker 1: that was one of the things I just want to mention,
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Speaker 1: which really truly brought out that allergy break. This morning.
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Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe just put up it was anonymous in the
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Speaker 1: sense he didn't mention my name, but he did in
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Speaker 1: fact was talking about me about my treatment and asked
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Speaker 1: people for prayers and like two hundred people chimed in
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Speaker 1: on apparently. I think one of them, he said, was
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Speaker 1: Elvis Presley's brother. But people who don't even know who
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Speaker 1: he's talking about. And people from far and wide making
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Speaker 1: comment prayers right now, giving you prayers. They're out for you,
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Speaker 1: just on and on and on, and you know, I
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Speaker 1: saw that this morning and just got a little emotional
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Speaker 1: on that. Jay rayetlife, very very very spiritual man himself is,
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Speaker 1: and this network of folks sharing his faith and belief
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Speaker 1: and all of them stuff up to the plate apparently yesterday.
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Speaker 1: So to all of those far and wide, to my
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Speaker 1: listening audience, and you know, if you just even thought
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Speaker 1: about me, God bless you, and thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: I am in great hands. I got great you know,
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Speaker 1: be back today. Get another bag. Fortunately, this one should
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Speaker 1: only take about a half hour. The chema bag is
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Speaker 1: a little small. It's a ten minute bag. It's the
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Speaker 1: retuxam mab that takes so long anyhow. But just overwhelmed
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Speaker 1: with the support from people. And yes, Joe, I truly
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Speaker 1: appreciate your reaching out. You're not the type of guy
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Speaker 1: that does stuff like that. Trust me, I know that
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Speaker 1: that was that was big from you and I mean that.
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna be talking to Daveatter about the cell
13:39
Speaker 1: phone outage with Verizon, one of the longest ones ever,
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Speaker 1: and it was a software update. He'll give us the
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Speaker 1: details on the whys. But when you think of it,
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Speaker 1: if you live through it, you know, and anybody's lived
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Speaker 1: through a cell phone aage knows. I mean, the thing
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Speaker 1: doesn't work. But as more and more people get rid
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Speaker 1: of landlines, you still have a hard line at home.
13:57
Speaker 1: I know it's still internet driven in base and well,
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Speaker 1: I don't know they still work when power's out. But
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Speaker 1: let's just assume the old way is still in effect
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Speaker 1: and your regular landline is still working. Nobody has them anymore,
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Speaker 1: very few you have your cell phone. I am one
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Speaker 1: of the people that falls into that category. And one
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Speaker 1: of the things that just sort of occurred to me.
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Speaker 1: I've left my phone at home in the past by accident.
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Speaker 1: It's a rare occasion that I do it anymore because
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Speaker 1: two factor authentication. Now you can't get on websites, you
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Speaker 1: can't make phone calls, you can't use Google Maps, you
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Speaker 1: can't play music. All these little annoyances that you have
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Speaker 1: to face when your cell phone goes out. One person
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Speaker 1: noted about, you know, the digital ticketing. I hate that.
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Speaker 1: I want my tickets to when I go to a concert.
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Speaker 1: But tickets many people now these days have digital like,
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Speaker 1: for example, train tickets. You show up at the train,
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Speaker 1: you want to get on the train, You have a
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Speaker 1: digital ticket. Whoops, doesn't work unless I suppose you've already
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Speaker 1: stored it on your cell phone in the form of
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Speaker 1: an image. But you can't log into the site where
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Speaker 1: your digital train ticket is. I guess I don't know
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Speaker 1: how these work, but that was just one of the
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Speaker 1: things that was report of the Wall Street Journal. But
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Speaker 1: you know, two factor authentication, You've got work to do.
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Speaker 1: And fortunately your job has software that requires you to
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Speaker 1: have two factor authentication, and Dave Haderal applaud that all
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Speaker 1: day long. It's great for security. But yeah, can't work
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Speaker 1: if you can't log into the system. You can't reach
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Speaker 1: mom and dad, children out there. Where's my ride? You
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Speaker 1: were supposed to pick me up after school? You get
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Speaker 1: bad news you want to share with the rest of
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Speaker 1: your friends and family. Not there. It doesn't work anymore.
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Speaker 1: How about calling nine to one one now? Verizon said
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Speaker 1: mobile devices can connect to any availuable cellular network to
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Speaker 1: make an emergency nine one one call, which is somewhat
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Speaker 1: reassuring that they have that shared access service for emergencies.
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Speaker 1: But how connected are we to our phones and can
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Speaker 1: we live without them? Apparently the answer is really too
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Speaker 1: much and not really in order of my rhetorical questions.
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Speaker 1: Looking forward to talking to Dave about that as well
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Speaker 1: as real quick here on GM FTC, Federal Trade Commission
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Speaker 1: finalized and order banning GM General Motors from disclosing your
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Speaker 1: geolocation information another driver and driving data behavior for five
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Speaker 1: years because they didn't let you know that they were
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Speaker 1: giving other people like insurance companies and data collection providers
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Speaker 1: your precise geolocation data and driving behavior information data regarding speeding,
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Speaker 1: late night driving, instances of hardbreaking, all sold to third
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Speaker 1: parties like consumer reporting agencies, according to the Commission to
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Speaker 1: Compile Credit Reports, subsequently utilized by insurance companies to set
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Speaker 1: your rates and deny insurance. FDC calling that invasion of
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Speaker 1: privacy aim en to the FTC five years worth of
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Speaker 1: that ban, And of course others have said that they
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Speaker 1: want be sharing data. But that's the kind of activity
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Speaker 1: I like to see. I hate this concept of big
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Speaker 1: brother looming in over every single damn thing we're doing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I get up at two thirty. I drive at night,
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Speaker 1: so they're capturing all that data. What am I doing
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Speaker 1: driving at night? I'm going to work. Leave me alone.
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Speaker 1: Six twenty seven fifty five KRCD talk station. Looks like
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Speaker 1: Tom's calling in. We'll get Tom's call. Your call maybe two.
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Speaker 1: If you call in, feel free to do so. I'll
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Speaker 1: be right back right now. It's twenty degrees five KRCD
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Speaker 1: talk station. Five thirty Honey Friday, unhappy one too, great
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Speaker 1: guests lined up today and phone calls. Always love hearing
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Speaker 1: phone call here from phone calls now dominated by the
17:42
Speaker 1: Tom's calling the five thirty hour. He doesn't own it,
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Speaker 1: but he calls in. You could be that person too, Tom.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show Man. Happy Friday to you, my brother.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Likewise, I really appreciate the pep talk. And I'm sure
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Speaker 4: there's a bunch of us that are getting ready for
17:57
Speaker 4: work and just trying to figure out what kind of
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Speaker 4: garbage are we helping pay for today, and between the
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Speaker 4: governments that we fund and you know, us us guys
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Speaker 4: that and gals that are in the unions and the
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Speaker 4: stuff we're funding there and various and sundry other items. Boy,
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Speaker 4: we are. We are shelling out a bunch of money
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Speaker 4: for some silly crap, aren't we.
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Speaker 1: Yes?
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Speaker 4: So we are, Yeah, yes we are. And as far
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Speaker 4: as the weather is concerned, I certainly hope that at
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Speaker 4: the very least when I leave here at four point
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Speaker 4: thirty out here in northwest Indianapolis, that my drive home
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Speaker 4: is not hindered by mother nature. I have one stop
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Speaker 4: to make at Chick fil A and get me fueled
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Speaker 4: up for my drive home. And as I is becoming tradition,
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Speaker 4: on my by day, I leave and go home. So
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Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to that. Yes, thank you very much,
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Speaker 4: Joe Joseph, best, isn't he? I haven't said that in
18:48
Speaker 4: a while. Was the absolute best? So we we we
18:52
Speaker 4: crack on each other a lot, but in all seriousness,
18:54
Speaker 4: there is the best. And you're not half bad either, Brian.
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Speaker 5: Who can argue with that?
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Speaker 4: Right there? You go? Uh, you know what, it's great
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Speaker 4: working with working and talking with guys. We crack on
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Speaker 4: each other, and it's like the more we get to
19:13
Speaker 4: know each other, the more we crack on each other. Right,
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Speaker 4: So you see, guys, given giving each other the business
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Speaker 4: at work. More than likely they're pretty good friends.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I've said that so many times. When the day
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Speaker 1: I quit giving you crap is the day you'll know
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Speaker 1: I've got a problem with you.
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Speaker 4: We got a problem right now, bumgoing radio silent, You've
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Speaker 4: got an issue.
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Speaker 1: But that's right. Yes, there are certain callers who Joe
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Speaker 1: Strecker has banned from the fifty five Casey Morning Show,
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Speaker 1: yet continue to call on a daily basis. And we'll
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Speaker 1: hang on hold for over an hour in some circumstances
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Speaker 1: until I guess they finally get the message and go up.
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Speaker 4: I don't know, right, all right, So, uh, your your
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Speaker 4: your topic. You brought up about the whole climate change thing,
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Speaker 4: and this goes, this goes for the whole COVID thing.
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Speaker 4: Here's the clue. If if government mandates it and and
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Speaker 4: big business is making bazillions of dollars off of it,
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Speaker 4: that's a clue there might be something wrong. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 4: just that, that's that's crazy. So it was pretty obvious
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Speaker 4: that this stuff is just a big money drab, as
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Speaker 4: is most things. It's just trying. It's just greed, that's
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Speaker 4: all it is all. Here's a here's an excuse we
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Speaker 4: can use to make billions and more dollars. Hey, hey,
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Speaker 4: you buddies in Congress or whatever government agency or whatever,
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Speaker 4: let's mandate this so we can jack our prices up
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Speaker 4: because they have to. They have to do this, so
20:36
Speaker 4: they have to buy that. That's just it's ridiculous. So
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Speaker 4: that's that's another reason, and among many. And you know,
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Speaker 4: it goes across political spectrum. Uh you know, you know
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Speaker 4: there's Republicans and stuff they come up with is is
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Speaker 4: all about making them or their friends money. It happens.
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Speaker 4: I sat across the table from a couple of guys
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Speaker 4: yesterday and and they're talking about how crooked these politicians are,
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Speaker 4: and it's really hard to argue. So all I could
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Speaker 4: come back with is, yeah, but do you want them
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Speaker 4: giving money away to people who don't belong in this country?
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm obviously pointing to the the you know,
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Speaker 4: the worst of the two evils. Whatever. The Democrat side
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Speaker 4: is so far off the ledge now, it's it's not
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Speaker 4: even close between the two parties. And I believe me,
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Speaker 4: I'm not extolling the virtues of the Republican Party by
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Speaker 4: any stretch of the imagination. But do you really want
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Speaker 4: democrats in charge of anything? Do you really want this
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Speaker 4: craft to continue? Because it's all that's going to do
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Speaker 4: is get worse and worse. And we see it from
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Speaker 4: from AFTAB in the city of Cincinnati to what you
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Speaker 4: just work your way up the ladder all the way
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Speaker 4: to when there's a Democrat in the White House. It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 4: We need to we need to make sure this stuff stops.
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Speaker 4: Please people don't vote Democrat. Have a great weekend, bright you.
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Speaker 1: Do the same time. Thank you very much, and safe
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Speaker 1: on a Friday, always played John the Fisherman for Joe Strecker.
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Speaker 1: Jeff must not be listening today. He didn't give me
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Speaker 1: the John the Fisherman countdown clock. Joe. Anyway, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: others are excited. Others maybe not so much. Primus fans
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Speaker 1: too tough, said Joe. Suck it up. It's only thirty
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Speaker 1: seconds for us. Uh five three two three talk? You
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Speaker 1: got the SoundBite ready, Joe. Well, I feel sorry for
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Speaker 1: this woman, but it is in the status stupid, so
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Speaker 1: there is a certain comedic element to it, but not
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Speaker 1: for this woman. This woman lives in a Sherman Oaks
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Speaker 1: apartment building, California, specifically Los Angeles area, speaking out about
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Speaker 1: a neighbor who is naked all the time and is
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Speaker 1: described as making a point of leaving his blinds open.
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Speaker 1: And here's a new phrase, while allegedly handling himself in
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Speaker 1: the buff. You ever heard to it?
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Speaker 4: Re get deliberate penalties, so we could get in the
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Speaker 4: penalty box all by.
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Speaker 1: Himself, and damned if he wouldn't handle himself, right, Michelle
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Speaker 1: McClintock and her son, they have to keep the blinds
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Speaker 1: in their apartment closed because he continually he's continually nude
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Speaker 1: and apparently always being very explicit in his nudity. Right there,
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Speaker 1: at the bedroom window, which is never covered. It is
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Speaker 1: it well, apparently recording the neighbors constantly and very He
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Speaker 1: never shuts his windows, even though they're just just feet
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Speaker 1: away from theirs in the adjacent building. Ms McClintock, calling
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Speaker 1: it traumatic, said she feels helpless in the face of
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Speaker 1: the unwanted and endless skin shows. She's recorded the naked
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Speaker 1: neighbor and even called police. She said she was placed
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Speaker 1: on hold for so long that she just gave up.
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Speaker 1: This is Los Angeles. This is not really an emergency
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Speaker 1: as you may perceive it is anyway, but there are
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Speaker 1: people getting gunned down in the street, so they tend
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Speaker 1: to prioritize those of the police when seconds matter. Anyway. Oh, yes,
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Speaker 1: he's definitely touched himself, she said. I've seen him touch
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Speaker 1: himself several times as he lays in the bed and
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Speaker 1: you can kind of see what he's doing. Her son, Michael,
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Speaker 1: has also been exposed to the same thing. She said.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll be coming back from school and I'm or rather,
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Speaker 1: he said, sometimes I'll be coming back from school and
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Speaker 1: I'm seeing him naked, or I'm cooking or I'm eating
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Speaker 1: in the living room w TV and I look and
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Speaker 1: I just see him naked. It's just really disgusting and
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Speaker 1: I hate it, said her son, Michael Perio.
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Speaker 6: Is the biggest douche of the universe, in all the galaxies.
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Speaker 6: There's no bigger douche than you. You've reached the top,
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Speaker 6: the pinnacle of douche. Dum good going douze. Your dreams
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Speaker 6: have come true?
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Speaker 1: Question is this criminal? She's contacting the departments managers and
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Speaker 1: his apartments managers so far haven't done anything. She's even
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Speaker 1: stuck a large note in her window urging him to
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Speaker 1: close his blinds when he's naked. She said he doesn't
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Speaker 1: seem to care. The response I got back was him
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Speaker 1: telling me to close my blinds. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: to do. Legal antimists analyst it's the local news there
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Speaker 1: said the naked neighbor could face charges in certain circumstances.
25:58
Speaker 1: According to this legal animal, Alison Tressel, if he is
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Speaker 1: willfully exposing his genitalia to other people and they are
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Speaker 1: annoyed or offended by it, and if he is intended
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Speaker 1: to direct their attention to his genitalia specifically for sexual
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Speaker 1: arousal or to be sexually offensive, he'll be looking at
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Speaker 1: an indecent exposure charge. Hmm, that's a tough row to hoe.
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Speaker 1: You actually have to prove his men's real estate. Why
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Speaker 1: was he doing it? Was it for his own sexual gratification,
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Speaker 1: or maybe he's got some sort of mental problem, or
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Speaker 1: maybe he's just well, choose your own appropriate FCC non
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Speaker 1: compliant way of describing this guy. Let's see here. Washington Police,
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Speaker 1: Washington State Police, our state patrol rather stop the naked
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Speaker 1: woman in the Snowhomage County last month, ended up arresting
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Speaker 1: her for DUI. Washington State trooper pulled over the driver
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Speaker 1: a quarter after three in the morning December sixth, told
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Speaker 1: a woman he stopped her because she was sleeping or speeding,
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Speaker 1: rather weaving and following too closely, and then he discovered
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Speaker 1: the one behind the wheel was naked. He asked, where
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Speaker 1: are your clothes? Woman said, pointing to a pile of
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Speaker 1: clothes next to her. There a's this tradition logically. The
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Speaker 1: next question, why aren't you wearing them? Her reply, I
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Speaker 1: don't actually know.
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Speaker 7: I had no idea.
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Speaker 1: Okay. He asked her to get dressed and form a
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Speaker 1: field sobriety test body came her footage, so the woman
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Speaker 1: told the trooper that she'd been in Seattle dancing. She
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Speaker 1: admitted that she had alcohol and marijuana. Following that admission,
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Speaker 1: he arrested on suspicion or the UI took her to
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Speaker 1: this Sonoma's County jail. I don't know. Reminds me of
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Speaker 1: fast times at Ridgemont High. Right, mister hand Jeffster flashback
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Speaker 1: is stupid. We'll get back to the stack of stupid
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Speaker 1: after we take Hank's call. Hey, Hank, thanks for calling
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Speaker 1: Happy Friday. The youth, sir, more than.
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Speaker 8: Brian and good health to you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you man.
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Speaker 8: If it makes if it makes anybody out there feel
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Speaker 8: any better about our government situation, this situation with government
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Speaker 8: being a pain in the butt. Remember one of our
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Speaker 8: founding fathers said that government is at best and necessary
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Speaker 8: evil and at worst an intolerable one. Yes, so this
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Speaker 8: is not a new situation. It's something we've had to
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Speaker 8: deal with for a long time. But in that vein
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Speaker 8: of Tom talking about Democrats and Republicans, and Democrats being
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Speaker 8: worse than the choice of the two. Here's suggestion for
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Speaker 8: the Republican Party for a campaign, of course, and the
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Speaker 8: Republican the less room of two evils.
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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Yeah, that's the best you can come
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Speaker 1: up with, Hank. And that's the truth. I would agree
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Speaker 1: with you all day long. A friend's to me meme
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Speaker 1: the other day. It's a picture of a guy cracking up,
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Speaker 1: really out me making fun of Democrats, and then right
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Speaker 1: blow out the same photograph me making fun of Republicans. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you will find me embracing that philosophy all day long.
29:28
Speaker 1: Stupid is as stupid does. Stupid is revealed by what
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Speaker 1: they do and what they say, and what they foist
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Speaker 1: down upon us, and their failure to properly account for
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Speaker 1: the taxpayer dollars they steal from us every day. Remember,
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Speaker 1: you're make an argument about slavery. You are working, and
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Speaker 1: you are a by law subject to pay the taxes
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Speaker 1: or they'll haul you off to jail and garnish your
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Speaker 1: wages or otherwise wall you'll have serious, significant repercussions. You
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Speaker 1: got no choice. You must toil for all of these
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Speaker 1: programs when they don't care at all what happens at
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Speaker 1: the end, in the end, with their money, until someone
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Speaker 1: lifts the veil over the secret. See what's going on
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Speaker 1: out there in the world. Has anybody heard about Minneapolis,
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Speaker 1: Minnesota lately? Back to the stack of stupid, a Texas
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Speaker 1: middle school teacher accused of having sex with This is
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Speaker 1: insanity a fourteen year old in a Walmart park parking lot,
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Speaker 1: what as two other students sat in the back seat?
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Speaker 1: Do what the hell? Her name Jaden Renee Charles. She's
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Speaker 1: twenty six and a mother of four, now facing two
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Speaker 1: counts evacuated sexual assault of a child. Authority say she
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Speaker 1: had a relationship with one, or with more than one
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Speaker 1: of her students at Agua Delce Secondary School. Charged against
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Speaker 1: her stand from an incident back in February of last year,
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Speaker 1: when she allegedly urged twenty four rather where she allegedly
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Speaker 1: drove the three students, including the fourteen year old boy,
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Speaker 1: a sixteen year old boy, and a fifteen year old girl,
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Speaker 1: to the Walmart ten minutes after two in the morning.
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Speaker 1: Where are your children, mom and dad? She then allegedly
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Speaker 1: tied a blanket around the front steat's had resk of
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Speaker 1: her suv and had sex with a fourteen year old
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Speaker 1: in the front seat while the other two teenagers sat
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Speaker 1: in the back. At the time, Charles claimed she was
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Speaker 1: pregnant with the fourteen year old's baby. Best getters in.
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Speaker 1: Investigation into the behavior first began when a student was
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Speaker 1: caught with a vape on campus. The independent school District
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Speaker 1: spoke with several students and teachers about that incident and
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Speaker 1: learned Charles had provided the student with the vape. Then,
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Speaker 1: the investigation of the incident determined that Charles may have
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Speaker 1: had provided vapes containing THC to several students, allegedly started
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Speaker 1: purchasing the vapes for the boys a couple of years
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Speaker 1: prior to her arrest, before she started teaching. Martinez also
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Speaker 1: said officers interviewed five different male students, four of whom
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Speaker 1: confirmed they had inappropriate relations with this woman and said
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Speaker 1: she was providing them with THC vapes and alcohol. Then
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Speaker 1: claimed Charles allegedly had sexual relations with two students prior
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Speaker 1: to being employed with the Agua ADULTA Independent School District
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Speaker 1: police chief from the police department further staid that there
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Speaker 1: was proof of her being with the students Accurdney Garcia.
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Speaker 1: We do have parents that were concerned and made some
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Speaker 1: calls about their children being with a teacher. We do
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Speaker 1: a video of the teacher with a student in one
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Speaker 1: of the hotels. But in the court hearing, Charles's attorney
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Speaker 1: told the judge he had not yet received any evidence
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Speaker 1: in the case. Apparently, you know, the prosecutor didn't hand
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Speaker 1: it over yet. I don't know. Do back in court
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Speaker 1: the first week of April twenty six, mother four having
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Speaker 1: sex with the fourteen year old, with two other teenagers
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Speaker 1: in the backseat.
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Speaker 3: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.
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Speaker 1: It goes way way beyond that. Unbelievable. Go to Memphis, Tennessee.
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Speaker 1: We get this oney in. We've been accused of letting
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Speaker 1: her five year old daughter whax dozens of nude adult
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Speaker 1: clients at her home axing business. Why are you doing that?
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Speaker 1: Her attorney. Hopefully I can push them to drop this.
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Speaker 1: It's an unusual case. It's a little complicated because of
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Speaker 1: the DCS investigation, and there's some licensing issues with Moss
33:14
Speaker 1: with this cosmetology board, so we need time to investigate that.
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Speaker 1: Allegations against her showed up in twenty twenty three, after
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Speaker 1: a viral Instagram post, which accorded to court document, showed
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Speaker 1: the girl applying hot wax on nude clients. What court
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Speaker 1: document said the post, Moss wrote that she and her
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Speaker 1: daughter waxed twenty four people. Court of defense attorney after
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Speaker 1: spending time investigating, and they believe the state should drop
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Speaker 1: the case. Of course, that's what lawyers argue. Judge sent
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Speaker 1: Ray pears, your attorney in the state will see how
33:47
Speaker 1: this can be resolved, and they may need some time
33:49
Speaker 1: to see how this will ultimately play out again. We're
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Speaker 1: just hopeful the prosecutor knows what they have is someone
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Speaker 1: who made a mistake, who has remedied that mistake and
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Speaker 1: is back on track, and the criminal justice system does
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Speaker 1: not need to be involved. She'll be back in court
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Speaker 1: in July. That's screwed up? Can I put it there delicately?
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Speaker 1: Five fifty six right now? Fifty five KRCY the talk
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Speaker 1: station FLP President Ken Cober, a regular fixture lately on
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Speaker 1: insant Police Captain Danita Pettis early she didn't do anything wrong.
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Speaker 1: Why did police chief three Soythigi then fire her after
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Speaker 1: twenty five years of faithful service to the insane police department.
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Speaker 1: Ken cober on that and XT, followed by Tech Friday
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Speaker 1: with Dave had at six thirty, is sure hoping to
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Speaker 1: stick around today's tough headlines coming up? It's six or
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Speaker 1: happy Friday to everyone. Tech Friday with Dave Hatter coming up.
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Speaker 1: What caused that Verizon adage? He says, Also in his
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Speaker 1: opinion piece, the benefits of a Kentucky Consumer Data Protection Act,
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Speaker 1: and finally the worst products at the Consumer Electronics Show
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Speaker 1: That should be fun Dave had Or bottom of this
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Speaker 1: hour right now. A regular feature here lately on the
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Speaker 1: fifty five cares of the morning show, all the what
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Speaker 1: I will call Shenanigan's coming out of the orders and
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Speaker 1: actions related to the mayor, the city manager back in
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Speaker 1: the background, Iris Rollie, and of course administratively Police Chief
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Speaker 1: Teresa Thigi, who's implicated in this one. Welcome back FOP
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Speaker 1: President Ken Kobert. It's great to have you on. Ken.
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Speaker 9: Good morning, Brian, thanks for having me again.
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Speaker 1: I understand Joe suggested perhaps you should become a weekly
35:31
Speaker 1: feature or even a daily feature on the morning show
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Speaker 1: with all of your press releases, and that's the genesis
35:36
Speaker 1: of Joe inviting you on the program and my you know,
35:39
Speaker 1: happiness about having you on the program. You release some
35:42
Speaker 1: to the press about what's going on, like what in
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Speaker 1: the hell how did this happen? Of course that's the
35:48
Speaker 1: case with the firing of Danita Pettis. She was a
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Speaker 1: police captain. That is a it's almost as high as
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Speaker 1: rank as you can get. Right, it's happened. Then what
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Speaker 1: assistant chief?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, assistant chief and then the chief, and the captain's
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Speaker 9: really the highest rank, Yeah, that you can attain through
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Speaker 9: taking promotional exams. Once you get to assistant chief, their appointments.
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Speaker 1: Then that becomes political, but we'll ignore that for the moment.
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Speaker 1: So we're talking about someone a very high status in
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Speaker 1: the police department. She is the or was, and soon
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Speaker 1: will be again the highest ranking black female fifty five
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Speaker 1: years old, worked for the Cincinni Police Department for more
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Speaker 1: than twenty five years, but then Police Chief three Soyhigia,
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Speaker 1: according to the reporting on this in December of twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four, fired her for alleged dishonesty and subordination. Rule
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Speaker 1: violations like time and overtime issues. She appealed that went
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Speaker 1: to arbitration, and the arbitration panel said, uh uh, they've
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Speaker 1: ordered full reinstatement of her as Sincinni police captain with
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Speaker 1: back pay, rejecting the administrations what they call unfounded efforts
36:57
Speaker 1: or what you kind of called unfounded efforts to terminate her.
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Speaker 1: What happened? Why was she targeted? And I guess I
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Speaker 1: have to ask you out loud. Do you think this
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Speaker 1: was police Chief three, so that Thiji's decision to fire her,
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Speaker 1: or maybe she got influenced by someone else in the hierarchy?
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Speaker 9: Ken Kobert, Well, there's a lot of things they don't know.
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Speaker 9: The why is the biggest thing. We don't know why
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Speaker 9: this was done. You know, they ultimately after this interview
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Speaker 9: and they came up with these charges, they decided that
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Speaker 9: the fire chief would be the department level hearing officer.
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Speaker 9: Why again, they say, well, it's because we wanted to
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Speaker 9: be independent, and the fire officer, yeah, the fire chief
37:39
Speaker 9: did the department level hearing, which the department level hearing
37:42
Speaker 9: is basically like a predisciplinary hearing. They hear from both
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Speaker 9: sides as to what they believe the fact pattern is, and.
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Speaker 2: Then they make a decision.
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Speaker 9: Well, the fire chief, after all of this, and like
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Speaker 9: I said, a lot of these questions go unanswered, is
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Speaker 9: he issues an eighty eight hour suspension. It then went
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Speaker 9: to Chief Thiji, who determined, now I don't like this,
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Speaker 9: I want her terminated. So then it goes to Cheryl Long,
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Speaker 9: who's the city manager who is responsible for the hiring
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Speaker 9: and firing of every city employee, upholds Chief Thiji's decision,
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Speaker 9: and they terminate her. Of course, now thirteen months later,
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Speaker 9: you know, after going to arbitration over the summer, this
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Speaker 9: three arbiter panel came back with a decision of she
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Speaker 9: didn't do any of this. All of the charges that
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Speaker 9: they had, They said, absolutely not, all of this was unfounded.
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Speaker 9: In fact, you're going to reinstate her with full back pay,
38:39
Speaker 9: full benefits immediately.
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Speaker 1: Wow. And I suppose giving a collective bargaining agreement, and
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Speaker 1: I don't know what's in it. Is that her sole remedy.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a good one that she got her
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Speaker 1: job back on all the back pay she's been out
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Speaker 1: for that long, But is there any opportunity like so
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Speaker 1: many others, for example, the fired police chief Washington or
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Speaker 1: the fire chief. Washington's gonna end up getting a big
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Speaker 1: FA settlement check because they wrongfully terminated him. It's been determined.
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Speaker 1: Is she because she's now still an employee or reemployed
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Speaker 1: by the SINS Police Department, can she poll pursue like
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Speaker 1: civil actions for this damage your reputation and that kind
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Speaker 1: of thing, or is that is that covered by the arbitration.
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Speaker 9: I don't know, that's that's something I know she she
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Speaker 9: has private counsel. Yeah, I don't know if that's something
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Speaker 9: they're exploiting or not. But I can tell you from
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Speaker 9: from the labor perspective. You know, we filed, we filed
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Speaker 9: for arbitration. We filed aggrievance based off of just cause,
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Speaker 9: which means there was no just cause to fire her,
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Speaker 9: which this arbitration panel said absolutely there was no just cause.
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Speaker 9: But there's another interesting part of this, and we had
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Speaker 9: filed that her right to do process was violated, and
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Speaker 9: part of that was, you know, in our collective bargaining agreement,
39:47
Speaker 9: it says that everyone that is, you know, subject to
39:52
Speaker 9: any kind of disciplinary action will be treated fairly and
39:57
Speaker 9: I'm trying to remember exact words, but you'll be treated
40:02
Speaker 9: all with dignity and respect, and based off of their findings,
40:07
Speaker 9: the arbitrator panel said she was not treated with dignity
40:11
Speaker 9: to respect. Hmmm, so they sustained that charge as well.
40:15
Speaker 9: So we had two charges. They sustained both of them,
40:17
Speaker 9: which is what led to ultimately for reinstatement.
40:21
Speaker 1: Well, I can only rely on Jennifer Edwards Baker from
40:23
Speaker 1: Fox nineteen to reporting on this. But apparently her termination,
40:26
Speaker 1: least according to her lawyer, was a retaliation because she
40:30
Speaker 1: had filed a complaint with the Ohio Civil Rights Commission
40:32
Speaker 1: alleging unlawful discrimination retaliation heard against her by the city.
40:37
Speaker 1: So she does that before she gets fired. That that
40:40
Speaker 1: sounds like at least a logical predicate for them wanting
40:43
Speaker 1: to fire her. Do you know what she said to
40:45
Speaker 1: the Ohio Civil Rights Commission Ken Cover, I don't.
40:48
Speaker 9: Because those are all things when when we look at
40:50
Speaker 9: what the FFP does is we don't get involved in
40:53
Speaker 9: cops filing complaints against other cops because ultimately we may
40:57
Speaker 9: end up defending them.
40:58
Speaker 1: Good point, So you know.
41:01
Speaker 9: Our responsibility is what happened here she was terminated.
41:04
Speaker 2: She came to the FOP said I don't think this
41:07
Speaker 2: is right.
41:07
Speaker 9: She laid out why our grievance committee said, yeah, we
41:11
Speaker 9: should fight this, so we filed for arbitration and this
41:14
Speaker 9: is where ultimately we landed. But as far as the
41:17
Speaker 9: cops file complaints against each other mid administration, we don't
41:20
Speaker 9: get involved with that.
41:21
Speaker 1: Okay. I can understand your need to remain neutral on
41:24
Speaker 1: matters involving police against police, because you do represent all
41:27
Speaker 1: of the police, and of course you know, this case
41:30
Speaker 1: is a great illustration of the benefits of membership in
41:33
Speaker 1: the Fraternal Order of Police. I mean, you're providing all
41:35
Speaker 1: this valuable service when when the police officers i will
41:38
Speaker 1: say loosely rights have been violated. Yeah, without a doubt.
41:42
Speaker 9: I mean Kim Rotowski, who you know is a partner
41:45
Speaker 9: with Lazarus's law firm that we have, I mean, she
41:48
Speaker 9: spent hundreds of hours preparing for this, you know, going
41:52
Speaker 9: to this arbitration, writing briefs. I mean, it just does.
41:55
Speaker 1: She does a phenomenal job.
41:57
Speaker 9: She really needs to be recognized you for the work
42:00
Speaker 9: that she did to defend these cops. And she's done
42:03
Speaker 9: it with this law firm for over twenty years, and
42:05
Speaker 9: she's certainly an invaluable piece to the FOP.
42:09
Speaker 1: That's wonderful, and you just gave a shout out to her.
42:11
Speaker 1: Now double down on that for her great work on this. Now,
42:13
Speaker 1: I guess I'm kind of curious since Police Chief Fiji
42:18
Speaker 1: determined that Denita Pettis should be fired rather than put
42:23
Speaker 1: on a min lee for eighty eight hours or whatever
42:25
Speaker 1: it was recommended initially, did she testify at the hearing
42:29
Speaker 1: at the arbitration.
42:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, she did.
42:34
Speaker 1: Did she I mean shed any light on this specifically? No, No,
42:36
Speaker 1: this is exactly what happened, why I terminated or rejected
42:40
Speaker 1: the suspension part of it. I mean, any flesh on
42:43
Speaker 1: the bones of that boiled down Stavid.
42:46
Speaker 8: Not really.
42:47
Speaker 9: I mean she testified, she gave what she believed was
42:49
Speaker 9: her fact matter. I mean there were probably I don't
42:53
Speaker 9: know twenty people or so that testified. I mean this
42:57
Speaker 9: was hours upon hours, I mean was nearly roughly thirty
43:03
Speaker 9: hours of testimony roughly throughout everybody, and it just came
43:08
Speaker 9: down to the arbitrators didn't believe that any of this
43:14
Speaker 9: warranted discipline. Not only did they not only did they
43:16
Speaker 9: believe that it didn't warrant it any discipline, they also
43:19
Speaker 9: obviously didn't believe that it warranted her termination.
43:22
Speaker 1: Right, Well, if there's no underlying disciplinary problem, they didn't
43:27
Speaker 1: believe there were any even clearly there was nothing to
43:29
Speaker 1: justify the termination. That's just crazy. Did okay? Since the
43:33
Speaker 1: chain of command goes all the way up apparently to
43:35
Speaker 1: the final decision maker, Cheryl Long, the city manager. That
43:39
Speaker 1: should Sheryl Long testify at this hearing?
43:42
Speaker 2: No, she did not.
43:43
Speaker 1: Well, she's like three times removed from any of the
43:45
Speaker 1: information relating to Denita Pettis on the job work anyway.
43:49
Speaker 1: I mean, she doesn't know what's going on with this
43:50
Speaker 1: woman on a day to day basis.
43:53
Speaker 2: No.
43:53
Speaker 9: And that's the thing is, you're the city managers said
43:55
Speaker 9: they're ultimately responsible for for who's fired this city. But
44:01
Speaker 9: certainly it calls into question, and I get a way,
44:03
Speaker 9: we have six thousand employees. I don't know whether or
44:07
Speaker 9: not how well this is reviewed. I mean, that would
44:10
Speaker 9: be certainly questions for her, but it certainly is is
44:16
Speaker 9: very concerning when you have a fire chief that's been fired,
44:19
Speaker 9: you know, to have you know, Captain Pettes fired, we
44:23
Speaker 9: have an assistant fire chief fire we have a situation
44:25
Speaker 9: that Chief Thigi's in right now. That is certainly concerning
44:29
Speaker 9: that there's a pattern being created that certainly questions as
44:32
Speaker 9: to whether or not any of these people should be
44:35
Speaker 9: in the predicament that they're in.
44:36
Speaker 1: Well that and then you add on a sort of
44:39
Speaker 1: side issue all the checks that the city's writing for
44:43
Speaker 1: to various employees. We know about Chief Washington, we anticipate
44:47
Speaker 1: Chief Thig getting one, but we also have, you know,
44:50
Speaker 1: the money paid to the protesters, and we've got money
44:53
Speaker 1: being paid to well, perhaps being paid for wrongful death
44:57
Speaker 1: actions involving justified police shootings. I mean, this is that,
45:01
Speaker 1: this is just I want to say a Charlie foxtrot,
45:05
Speaker 1: if I can be so bold, I just I can't
45:07
Speaker 1: see anything good going on with this administration relative to
45:09
Speaker 1: police operations and how they handle matters involving litigation.
45:14
Speaker 9: Yeah, this is something that this is snowballing out of
45:18
Speaker 9: control quickly, as we've seen over here just in the
45:21
Speaker 9: first couple of weeks of the year, the problems that
45:23
Speaker 9: we were were seeing all.
45:25
Speaker 1: Right, Well, one of the other ongoing problems moving away
45:27
Speaker 1: from police Chief DJ's involvement in this wrongful termination to
45:32
Speaker 1: her also being subject to that kind of approach. She
45:36
Speaker 1: was let go and fired without any in place on
45:39
Speaker 1: administrator to leave without any articulated reason. We still don't
45:42
Speaker 1: to this day, and they've extended the investigation to Police
45:45
Speaker 1: Chief Thiji. The investigation can and confirm for me if
45:48
Speaker 1: I'm wrong or right. The investigation is to decide whether
45:52
Speaker 1: there is any grounds to either place or an administrative
45:56
Speaker 1: leave or fire herb because they didn't say there were.
45:58
Speaker 1: This is like looking backward or to support something that
46:01
Speaker 1: they've done already.
46:03
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, this is certainly one of the questions
46:05
Speaker 9: that comes is, you know, wasn't arrest made and then
46:08
Speaker 9: the charges have been?
46:09
Speaker 1: Are they trying to determine the charges? Yes, that's exactly
46:11
Speaker 1: what it sounds like.
46:13
Speaker 9: It just I mean, the this has been the common
46:16
Speaker 9: theme is the lack of transparency, not knowing why why
46:20
Speaker 9: why do we have Chief DG on administrative leaf? No
46:23
Speaker 9: one seemed to be able to answer that, And I
46:25
Speaker 9: guess we're gonna have to wait till the end of
46:27
Speaker 9: February now, yeah, to see what's going to happen next.
46:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're paying a law firm substantial amount of money
46:34
Speaker 1: to look into what Police Chief three Fiji either did
46:37
Speaker 1: or didn't do. We'll get a report on that and
46:38
Speaker 1: then they'll be able to retroactively determine whether they were
46:41
Speaker 1: appropriate in letting her go. This is crazy. That's where
46:44
Speaker 1: we have u FLP. President can cover. Keep issuing the announcements,
46:47
Speaker 1: keep making public statements. You know, I just learned this
46:49
Speaker 1: morning that the fire Department actually has someone in your capacity.
46:52
Speaker 1: There is a union fire representative, you know, President, and
46:57
Speaker 1: j Rickers said, just missing an action. I didn't even
46:59
Speaker 1: mean we had one. Apparently, anybody who reaches out to
47:02
Speaker 1: that guy to ask for a comment or anything that's
47:03
Speaker 1: like got crickets in response. So we're lucky to have you,
47:06
Speaker 1: Ken Kober, actually speaking out loud on behalf of the folks.
47:08
Speaker 1: You represent the Cincinnati Police Department.
47:13
Speaker 9: You know, it's a job that I certainly take seriously.
47:16
Speaker 9: I think it's a very very important one of these
47:18
Speaker 9: men and women that came out every day to protect
47:20
Speaker 9: the citizens of the city deserve to have somebody that's
47:23
Speaker 9: going to be vocal, that's going to fight from and
47:26
Speaker 9: it's something like I said, that I certainly take seriously,
47:28
Speaker 9: and I certainly enjoy being in this role.
47:31
Speaker 1: I know you do, and I'm certain that the police
47:33
Speaker 1: Department and the members of the Cincinni Police Department appreciate
47:36
Speaker 1: what you're doing and your activism on their behalf, and
47:39
Speaker 1: you're always welcome here on the morning show. Ken, I
47:41
Speaker 1: don't know if you're a regular. Future. Part of me
47:43
Speaker 1: wants to say no, because things will settle down and
47:45
Speaker 1: things will approve and you'll have nothing to report to
47:47
Speaker 1: the public about. But until that time, Ken, thanks again,
47:52
Speaker 1: have a fantastic weekend and go on behalf of all
47:54
Speaker 1: of my listeners and me and my family. God bless
47:56
Speaker 1: the men and women in law enforcement.
48:00
Speaker 9: Thanks Brian, I appreciate it. Take care of a good weekend,
48:02
Speaker 9: and I'm sure I'll talk to you soon.
48:03
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48:29
Speaker 1: Welcome man. The Verizon outage impacted quite a few people,
48:33
Speaker 1: and it lasted a hell of a lot longer than
48:34
Speaker 1: people realize. And it was at that point they all
48:36
Speaker 1: realized how much we depend upon and our lives revolve
48:39
Speaker 1: around our cell phone. Welcome back, my friend. It's always
48:42
Speaker 1: great having you on.
48:43
Speaker 2: Brian, always good to be here. Yeah. How many times
48:46
Speaker 2: have you and I in the last ten plus here
48:47
Speaker 2: has talked about are ever increasingly digital society? We depend
48:53
Speaker 2: on this technology more and more all the time, and
48:56
Speaker 2: how fragile it is, the point I try to make
48:58
Speaker 2: all the time. And here's yet another example. You know, now,
49:03
Speaker 2: this is not unique to Verizon, it's not the only
49:05
Speaker 2: time it's happened to Verizon. But the bottom line is,
49:11
Speaker 2: in general, I don't think the average person really realizes
49:14
Speaker 2: how much network traffic goes through these cellular carriers networks
49:18
Speaker 2: at this point. So it's not just your cell phone
49:22
Speaker 2: doesn't work, it's other things may not work as well,
49:24
Speaker 2: and especially if you could knock out one of these
49:26
Speaker 2: carriers entire network. Because it looks like this Verizon thing
49:30
Speaker 2: did not affect all users, does not appear to be
49:33
Speaker 2: a cyber attack from everything I've read, it looks like
49:35
Speaker 2: they had a problem with a server. Now again, you know,
49:37
Speaker 2: this is still early and sometimes when these incidents happen,
49:41
Speaker 2: as time wears on, you get more detail when you
49:43
Speaker 2: find out whatever was originally reported wasn't right. I'm not
49:46
Speaker 2: saying that's necessarily because they're lying about it. I'm saying that,
49:49
Speaker 2: you know, you have to do some forensics to get
49:51
Speaker 2: to the bottom of things to really understand what went on.
49:53
Speaker 2: But apparently, for roughly ten hours, a bunch of Verizon
49:56
Speaker 2: customers had issues with their phones. I'm a Verizon customer.
50:01
Speaker 2: It did not impact me, for example. But you know,
50:04
Speaker 2: kind of going back to the second part of my point,
50:06
Speaker 2: which is not it's not just cell phone traffic necessarily
50:10
Speaker 2: going through this stuff, but when you see the sheer
50:13
Speaker 2: number of people that are potentially suddenly unable to do
50:17
Speaker 2: the things they need to do in their daily lives
50:19
Speaker 2: because they rely on these phones, right, whether it's making
50:23
Speaker 2: a doctor's appointment, whether it's trying to get an uber
50:26
Speaker 2: or as an uber driver, whether it's you know, trying to.
50:33
Speaker 1: Two factor authentication. You know the days when I when
50:36
Speaker 1: I when when I forgot my phone at home, I
50:38
Speaker 1: can't I come in I can't get into my email
50:40
Speaker 1: the of the ihearts system because, of course, the the
50:43
Speaker 1: good reason is I use two factor authentication. That's an
50:46
Speaker 1: important safety tools. You've talked time and time again. Sorry
50:49
Speaker 1: sucks to be you. You're not going to get your six
50:52
Speaker 1: digit message saying that allow you access into your stuff.
50:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's another interesting angle because even if you
51:00
Speaker 2: your computer is working because it's connected to a different network, right,
51:03
Speaker 2: it's not using Verizons sell your network or AT and
51:06
Speaker 2: T or whomever. Again we're specifically talking about Verizon in
51:09
Speaker 2: this case. Yeah, you might not be able to get
51:13
Speaker 2: your MFA code. Now, you know, in some cases, Brian,
51:16
Speaker 2: if you have a cell phone, I would just remind folks,
51:19
Speaker 2: you know, if you have a cell phone, all new
51:20
Speaker 2: ones that I'm aware of support Wi Fi. If your
51:23
Speaker 2: cellular carrier is down, you could still theoretically use some
51:27
Speaker 2: of the phone's functionality. You might not be able to
51:29
Speaker 2: make phone calls for example, text may or may not work,
51:33
Speaker 2: but you might be able to at least still do
51:36
Speaker 2: certain things because you're connected to the Wi Fi. But
51:39
Speaker 2: the bigger point in my mind, now Verizon, you know,
51:41
Speaker 2: has apologized for this and they said they're going to
51:43
Speaker 2: issue credits and that sort of thing, which I think
51:46
Speaker 2: is good and I think even more important is from
51:50
Speaker 2: all initial reporting, this does not appear to be a
51:53
Speaker 2: cyber attack of any kind. You know, I've sent you
51:56
Speaker 2: all kinds of articles. We've talked about it on here,
51:59
Speaker 2: I've shared many in my social media stories where you know,
52:02
Speaker 2: the FBI, DHS, etc. Is warning about Chinese Communist Party
52:07
Speaker 2: infiltration and the telecom network, you know, back doors and
52:10
Speaker 2: this stuff. The possibility that this stuff could be knocked
52:13
Speaker 2: out on purpose again doesn't seem to be anything like that,
52:16
Speaker 2: I'm happy to say. But the bigger point in my mind,
52:20
Speaker 2: and I just keep telling people this all the time.
52:23
Speaker 2: We must, we must, we must. It's serious about protecting
52:27
Speaker 2: this infrastructure as we get. You know, it's thirty years ago.
52:31
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's been twenty five years. Whenever
52:33
Speaker 2: I first got a cell phone, it was a convenience
52:36
Speaker 2: for me. It was a novelty for me. It was
52:38
Speaker 2: not nearly as important to me then as it is now.
52:41
Speaker 1: And a half pounds go ahead, right, Plus it weighed
52:43
Speaker 1: three and a half pounds.
52:44
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, big old brick, right. But I mean,
52:47
Speaker 2: if it stopped working for a couple of hours. Wasn't
52:50
Speaker 2: that big of a deal. Landlines were everywhere, pay phones
52:53
Speaker 2: were everywhere. Most people didn't have a cell phone. They
52:56
Speaker 2: weren't trying to call my cell phone. It was mostly,
52:58
Speaker 2: you know, a business rated thing and a convenience and
53:00
Speaker 2: cool thing. Well now I don't even have a landline anymore.
53:04
Speaker 1: Brian, do you I mentioned that earlier?
53:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, many people don't. So you know again if now,
53:11
Speaker 2: if my cell phone doesn't work, it's much more problematic
53:13
Speaker 2: for me. And I don't exist out of my phone
53:16
Speaker 2: like my kids do or like other people I know.
53:18
Speaker 2: Do you know I would still get on the computer.
53:20
Speaker 2: Now you mentioned MFA that may or may not work
53:23
Speaker 2: through another connection. But the bigger point is we have
53:27
Speaker 2: got to at every level of our society realize how
53:30
Speaker 2: all this digital technology is impacting us, how fragile it is,
53:34
Speaker 2: and how you know, we've got to get this stuff
53:37
Speaker 2: fixed before some catastrophe happens. And my last point, because
53:40
Speaker 2: I know will be out of time, is, as you
53:42
Speaker 2: and I have discussed many times, one of the many
53:45
Speaker 2: reasons why I'm completely and totally against any sort of
53:49
Speaker 2: cashless society is imagine all three carriers go down, I
53:54
Speaker 2: imagine the telecom system is down entirely. How do you bank?
53:57
Speaker 2: How do you get money? How do you pay your bills?
54:01
Speaker 1: At least to keep a healthy stash of cash on
54:04
Speaker 1: hand in the end of those contingencies, have something like
54:06
Speaker 1: a fire plan in the event cell phone connectivity goes
54:10
Speaker 1: away for any period of time. Pause. We'll bring Dave
54:13
Speaker 1: Header back to talk about his op ed p's the
54:14
Speaker 1: benefits of the Kentucky Consumer Data protect Station tech part
54:17
Speaker 1: of the Dave Hatter and opinion writer op ed opinion
54:21
Speaker 1: writer still keeping his interest it dot com hat on.
54:24
Speaker 1: He's talking about the benefits of Kentucky Consumer Data Protection Acts.
54:27
Speaker 1: We can all read the article in the Northern Kentucky
54:29
Speaker 1: Tribune day, but tell us about this. What is the
54:31
Speaker 1: Kentucky Consumer Data Protection Act?
54:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian, for the first time and probably my entire life,
54:38
Speaker 2: Kentucky has actually beat Ohio to something useful in the
54:41
Speaker 2: tech space. I'm happy to say. You know, Ohio honestly
54:46
Speaker 2: is generally way ahead of Kentucky and anything related to tech.
54:49
Speaker 2: I think we've talked on their show about Ohio House
54:52
Speaker 2: Built ninety six, which requires local governments in Ohio to
54:57
Speaker 2: take steps towards protecting your assets, the cybersecurity space and
55:01
Speaker 2: some other stuff. So Ohio generally, in all honesty, really
55:04
Speaker 2: has their act together, and I'm constantly trying to convince
55:07
Speaker 2: my friends here in Kentucky to follow suit. But back
55:10
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, Kentucky passed the Kentucky Consumer Data
55:14
Speaker 2: Protection Act, and it's not perfect, but it's a great
55:18
Speaker 2: first step towards protecting you as a consumer. And one
55:22
Speaker 2: of the reasons why I'm glad you wanted to talk
55:23
Speaker 2: about this, despite the fact that obviously you have a
55:26
Speaker 2: large audience in Kentucky. I live in Kentucky. Is I'm
55:28
Speaker 2: hoping Ohio will follow suits. So the International Association of
55:32
Speaker 2: Privacy Professionals has a website I've linked to it from
55:35
Speaker 2: this article that shows you which states have a consumer
55:38
Speaker 2: data protection law. Currently there are nineteen. Kentucky is one
55:42
Speaker 2: of the most recent. Indiana has one. Many states surrounding
55:47
Speaker 2: Ohio either have one in place or are working on one.
55:50
Speaker 2: From what I can tell, it looks like Ohio's attempt
55:53
Speaker 2: at this sort of stalled out, and I can't find
55:55
Speaker 2: any evidence that it's been reunited. So all my Ohio. Friends,
55:58
Speaker 2: you might want to reach out to your legs. You
56:00
Speaker 2: can send them this article or there's plenty of research
56:02
Speaker 2: on this went into law January first of this year,
56:06
Speaker 2: and it's designed it you know, it has two prongs.
56:08
Speaker 2: And I'm going to write another two articles on this,
56:11
Speaker 2: one for Kentucky businesses what they need to know, because
56:13
Speaker 2: I touch on it briefly in here, but I'm really
56:15
Speaker 2: trying to focus on why you should care about this
56:18
Speaker 2: as a consumer, and then another article about as a
56:20
Speaker 2: consumer in Kentucky how to use this thing. But basically
56:23
Speaker 2: what it does is it says if you're a Kentucky
56:26
Speaker 2: business and you collect consumer data, once you hit certain thresholds,
56:30
Speaker 2: then there are penalties built into the bill if you
56:34
Speaker 2: don't protect people's data. So there's a cybersecurity angle to this, right.
56:39
Speaker 2: It puts teeth in the law so that businesses now
56:41
Speaker 2: are incentivized to want to protect your data to stop
56:45
Speaker 2: all these data breaches that we see. You know, I
56:47
Speaker 2: bet you, Brian, everyone in your audience has gotten at
56:50
Speaker 2: least one, probably many notices from some company somewhere, probably
56:53
Speaker 2: some they haven't done business with that their data has
56:56
Speaker 2: been breached. Right, So if you're doing business in Kentucky
56:59
Speaker 2: and you have Kentucky consumer's data. There are exceptions. Again,
57:03
Speaker 2: there are thresholds, but now as a consumer you potentially
57:08
Speaker 2: can get You're forcing businesses to take this seriously. Essentially.
57:12
Speaker 2: The big knock on this because it's not nearly as
57:14
Speaker 2: stringent as consumer or California's law the California Consumer California
57:20
Speaker 2: Consumer Privacy Act is by far the most stringent law
57:24
Speaker 2: in the United States. It's kind of loosely based on
57:26
Speaker 2: the GDP. You are out of the EU, it's much
57:30
Speaker 2: more rigorous, much bigger penalties. But again, in my mind,
57:34
Speaker 2: this is a great first step. It's something that got done,
57:38
Speaker 2: and the main things that does feuse well. The main
57:40
Speaker 2: knock on it is you have no private right to
57:42
Speaker 2: action if you believe you are a victim of if
57:46
Speaker 2: one of these things have you know, been don't know.
57:49
Speaker 2: I can't talk this morning, Brian. If a company runs
57:52
Speaker 2: a valil one of these things and you believe you're
57:54
Speaker 2: a victim, you can't sue them outright. You have to
57:56
Speaker 2: go through the Kentucky Attorney General's office. A lot of experts,
58:00
Speaker 2: you know, have knocked it for that. But what it
58:02
Speaker 2: does do is a whole lot of things. For example,
58:05
Speaker 2: you now have a right to go to a company
58:08
Speaker 2: that has your data, data brokers, for example. Now this
58:11
Speaker 2: is not easy. That's why I'm going to do another
58:13
Speaker 2: article to explain how to work through this and say,
58:16
Speaker 2: I want to see what data you have about me.
58:18
Speaker 2: I want to is this data accurate. I want you
58:21
Speaker 2: to correct this data in some cases potentially delete the data.
58:25
Speaker 2: I want you to give me my data so I
58:27
Speaker 2: can take it somewhere else. So without a law like
58:30
Speaker 2: this right often you have no idea who has your data.
58:34
Speaker 2: You have no way to know if that data is correct.
58:36
Speaker 2: You and I've talked about this many times. It's one
58:38
Speaker 2: of the reasons why I don't like the Internet of
58:40
Speaker 2: Things and apps. All this data is being collected, is
58:44
Speaker 2: it even right?
58:45
Speaker 1: You don't know, you have no access to it. This
58:48
Speaker 1: is basically creating a legal freedom of information Act for
58:51
Speaker 1: people to allow them to ask and demand the information
58:55
Speaker 1: that is being collected about them. I love that. Now,
58:57
Speaker 1: once you're round with that information, you can determine the
58:59
Speaker 1: accuracy of it, and then maybe if Kentucky's you know,
59:02
Speaker 1: is the norm, or or California's law becomes the norm
59:05
Speaker 1: for America, then you'll have some right to legal recourse.
59:09
Speaker 1: I think it's a step in the right direction. I
59:10
Speaker 1: hate the idea that they're selling our information to third
59:13
Speaker 1: parties all the time, and I guess the FTC recognized
59:15
Speaker 1: that too. They have banned GM from disclosing all the
59:18
Speaker 1: information it's been collecting about our driving habits for the
59:21
Speaker 1: next five years, and I presume that that's going to
59:23
Speaker 1: be an extension of in a broader application.
59:26
Speaker 2: So, because keep in mind, right there is no national
59:29
Speaker 2: privacy law, you've got nineteen states that have this patchwork built.
59:32
Speaker 2: Now again, is this law perfect, because I've already gotten
59:35
Speaker 2: feedback that wow, this is no good. It's way better
59:38
Speaker 2: than what we had, which was nothing. If you are
59:41
Speaker 2: business doing you don't have to be a Kentucky business.
59:43
Speaker 2: If you're a business doing business in Kentucky right now,
59:47
Speaker 2: you're a subject to this.
59:48
Speaker 1: Law that makes it stretch all around the nation like
59:52
Speaker 1: California cafe standards. Forcing everybody to fall in line with California.
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59:57
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Brian's that's a tall charge there.
1:00:25
Speaker 1: I knew it would be.
1:00:27
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny this, So this is an ap
1:00:29
Speaker 2: article Worst in Show. CES products include AI refrigerators, AI companions,
1:00:34
Speaker 2: and AI doorbells. I'll post this and all the other
1:00:37
Speaker 2: links to all the other stuff we talked about this morning,
1:00:39
Speaker 2: so people can go see these things for themselves. But
1:00:40
Speaker 2: I love it the very first picture they start out
1:00:43
Speaker 2: in the article. Yes, Internet of Things coffee makers that
1:00:48
Speaker 2: conveniently not only have a screen on them, but the
1:00:50
Speaker 2: Wi Fi symbol telling you that you can plug this
1:00:53
Speaker 2: thing in and you know, wreck your whole life, your business,
1:00:55
Speaker 2: et cetera. Because probably in two years or less, there'll
1:00:58
Speaker 2: be no software updates coming for this thing. That's how
1:01:01
Speaker 2: it works. And as you and I have discussed so
1:01:04
Speaker 2: many times before. You know, Internet of Things aka smart devices,
1:01:07
Speaker 2: most of which are really stupid, dumb dumpster fires for
1:01:11
Speaker 2: your privacy and security. You know, the show was full
1:01:13
Speaker 2: of this stuff. Robots, ai AI refrigerators. You know you've talked.
1:01:19
Speaker 2: We've talked about the Samsung refrigerator before with a screen
1:01:22
Speaker 2: that now serves up ads. Let me just add, let
1:01:25
Speaker 2: me just.
1:01:27
Speaker 1: Sure to get advertising pumped in your own via your refrigerator.
1:01:32
Speaker 2: You paid for a refrigerator that is going to send ads.
1:01:35
Speaker 2: I mean, think of the drivel that's coming out of
1:01:37
Speaker 2: your average gas pump now, and now you can bring
1:01:39
Speaker 2: that into your kitchen. Is that not? Are we not entertained? Brian?
1:01:44
Speaker 1: This is awesome?
1:01:45
Speaker 2: So so they say here now again, these are a
1:01:48
Speaker 2: group of privacy experts from folks like the Internet or
1:01:52
Speaker 2: Electronic Frontier Foundation and other groups. They go to this
1:01:55
Speaker 2: thing and then you know they collectively vote on these things. Right,
1:01:58
Speaker 2: So it's it's ten four a half people like me,
1:02:01
Speaker 2: but shouting at a bespoke AI fridge that also hawks
1:02:05
Speaker 2: grocery products. This is from the article Samsung's Bespoke AI
1:02:09
Speaker 2: Family Hub refrigerator received the overall worst end show from
1:02:12
Speaker 2: the group of Consumer and Privacy Advocates, and they basically
1:02:17
Speaker 2: go on to say, for example, you know, they talk
1:02:20
Speaker 2: about trying to talk to the thing that was too loud,
1:02:22
Speaker 2: But that's that's not the thing that gets me. It's
1:02:26
Speaker 2: the idea. Now again I'm reading from the article, right, Yeah,
1:02:29
Speaker 2: that was just part of the complications and reliability concerned
1:02:33
Speaker 2: Samsung added to an appliance that's supposed to have an
1:02:35
Speaker 2: important job keeping food cold. Right, they talk about how
1:02:38
Speaker 2: it could try to order food for you. Well, if
1:02:41
Speaker 2: it could order food for you, it means it knows
1:02:44
Speaker 2: what you're eating, it knows how much you're eating. It's
1:02:47
Speaker 2: probably selling that to God knows who, like your insurance company.
1:02:51
Speaker 2: You know, I've brought this up many times talking to you, Brian,
1:02:53
Speaker 2: and I know in the past people like, well that's crazy,
1:02:56
Speaker 2: But think about this. If this can order your food,
1:02:59
Speaker 2: then it could know that you eat. You know, let's
1:03:01
Speaker 2: say eight pounds.
1:03:01
Speaker 1: A bake in a week, how many twelve packs you
1:03:04
Speaker 1: got in the fridge, and on and on. It is scary.
1:03:08
Speaker 2: And while it might be convenient that it could order
1:03:10
Speaker 2: that for you, unless, of course, the Verizon network is down.
1:03:14
Speaker 2: But it could order that for you, right, and then
1:03:16
Speaker 2: sell that to your insurance company, who might decide that
1:03:18
Speaker 2: your premium should go up, or maybe they should cancel
1:03:21
Speaker 2: you because you're eating in a way that is not
1:03:24
Speaker 2: conducive to their insurance premiums and their payouts to.
1:03:27
Speaker 1: Your tys for collecting your driving data, which they sell
1:03:30
Speaker 1: to insurance companies who will cancel you or otherwise jack
1:03:33
Speaker 1: your premium up. This is all a vicious circle leading
1:03:35
Speaker 1: to a bad place for the consumer.
1:03:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, the main I am not against the Internet
1:03:42
Speaker 2: of things in principle. I'm against the Internet of things because,
1:03:45
Speaker 2: as I've said so many times anyone that will listen,
1:03:48
Speaker 2: the incentives are wrong for you as a consumer. One
1:03:50
Speaker 2: of the reasons why the Kentucky Consumer Data Protection Act
1:03:53
Speaker 2: is helpful to you as a consumer. These things are
1:03:55
Speaker 2: cheap garbage, usually coming from China, possibly full of back doors.
1:04:00
Speaker 2: They're designed for speed to market, ease of use, and
1:04:03
Speaker 2: market share. They don't get software updates after a certain
1:04:06
Speaker 2: period of time, people do not know how to configure
1:04:08
Speaker 2: them correctly, and they're sucking up all of your data
1:04:12
Speaker 2: and selling it to god knows who, leaking it, breaching it, etc. Right,
1:04:16
Speaker 2: so I know it will be out of time. Amazon's
1:04:18
Speaker 2: doorbells once again ring privacy alarms. Right, So again reading
1:04:22
Speaker 2: from the thing that includes facial recognition code, set of
1:04:25
Speaker 2: ring features, and includes mobile surveillance towers that can be
1:04:27
Speaker 2: deployed at parking lots in other places, and includes an
1:04:30
Speaker 2: app store that's going to let people develop even sketch
1:04:32
Speaker 2: your apps for the doorbell than the ones even Amazon provides.
1:04:35
Speaker 2: Again not my commentary. This coming from Cindy Cone, executive
1:04:40
Speaker 2: director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, someone that knows about
1:04:43
Speaker 2: this stuff. So this article covers a bunch of other things.
1:04:46
Speaker 2: I'll post it. Folks, stop buying this stuff. Stop buying
1:04:51
Speaker 2: this stuff at least until there are laws that force
1:04:54
Speaker 2: these companies to get serious about protecting your privacy and security.
1:04:57
Speaker 2: Otherwise you are setting yourself up for problems.
1:05:02
Speaker 1: Underscore, amen bold and underline on that. Get to LinkedIn
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1:05:12
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1:05:17
Speaker 1: article and it just I just shake my head and
1:05:20
Speaker 1: wonder why anybody thinks they need any of this stuff day.
1:05:23
Speaker 1: But then again, I've been thoroughly man since by you,
1:05:25
Speaker 1: and I know my life has been fine, swimmingly decent.
1:05:28
Speaker 1: Uh without this stuff my entire life. I'm not going
1:05:31
Speaker 1: to add it to my list of things that I want,
1:05:35
Speaker 1: or then I will not buy it either. That's why
1:05:36
Speaker 1: we've got you, Dave, get more people on the same ledger.
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Speaker 1: We'll do this again next Friday. Thanks again to your
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Speaker 2: Always my pleasure, Brian, Thanks to you and Joe, and
1:05:51
Speaker 2: I look forward to chatting with you next week.
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1:06:19
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Speaker 1: Strecker does that one, doesn't he He sure does. A
1:06:29
Speaker 1: great guy, isn't he.
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Speaker 2: He is.
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Speaker 7: He's a slave driver as a producer, though, let's be honest, he's.
1:06:33
Speaker 1: A good producer. He's a great producer. That requires, you know,
1:06:37
Speaker 1: you heed his warnings and his calls. You're going to
1:06:39
Speaker 1: have to do a retake. So Joe Strecker, producer of podcasts,
1:06:42
Speaker 1: including Charged Conversations. Yeah, Brigham McCown's got just an unbelievable
1:06:46
Speaker 1: background and energy policy, which is why he was in
1:06:48
Speaker 1: d C. And why the Japanese government assigned you in
1:06:51
Speaker 1: like an intern or.
1:06:52
Speaker 7: Something they did from the Japanese Development Bank.
1:06:55
Speaker 1: That's sort of.
1:06:57
Speaker 7: You know, their government, economic ministry and policy and one.
1:07:03
Speaker 7: And they want to know about energy security. So they
1:07:06
Speaker 7: sent some folks over for seven weeks to hang out
1:07:10
Speaker 7: with us at Hudson and figure it out.
1:07:13
Speaker 1: Energy security by way of what the United States is
1:07:15
Speaker 1: going to be doing, by way of pursuing energy production,
1:07:18
Speaker 1: oil gas, nukes, whatever it happens to be compared to
1:07:22
Speaker 1: the last administration. Of course, then the Obama administration, you know,
1:07:25
Speaker 1: your gauge of energy security had to be pretty grim
1:07:28
Speaker 1: considering we were not going to invest in anything that
1:07:32
Speaker 1: provides reliable electricity. Was all going to be wind bills. Yeah,
1:07:35
Speaker 1: and maybe hydro to the extent hasn't been used yet.
1:07:38
Speaker 1: Solar panels of course, and then unicorns.
1:07:40
Speaker 7: Absolutely, thanks for mentioning unicorns, because that is the magic
1:07:44
Speaker 7: mix of things. But you know, in all seriousness, it's
1:07:46
Speaker 7: a real topic. And you know Asian countries, but Japan
1:07:51
Speaker 7: imports about ninety five percent of the energy that it
1:07:54
Speaker 7: needs minus nuclear that it produces. We're so blessed, Brian
1:07:58
Speaker 7: to have all these natural resources and to be able
1:08:01
Speaker 7: to provide energy fairly, expensively and reliably. That underpins our economy,
1:08:08
Speaker 7: our economic security, our national security.
1:08:10
Speaker 1: And so.
1:08:12
Speaker 7: It's something that I've spent many years on and while
1:08:16
Speaker 7: I don't agree with everything any administration does, we are
1:08:20
Speaker 7: on a much better path than we were.
1:08:22
Speaker 1: We are, and I suppose we should probably just sort
1:08:26
Speaker 1: of dive into this whole US power grid concern we've got.
1:08:29
Speaker 1: I saw this article yesterday. As a matter of fact,
1:08:32
Speaker 1: I had at my stack from American Greatness about Pennsylvania.
1:08:35
Speaker 1: They're connecting and get their energy from PJAM interconnection, which
1:08:39
Speaker 1: provides power to basically all of thirteen states, including Pennsylvania District, Columbia,
1:08:44
Speaker 1: et cetera. But they released an executive summary and said
1:08:48
Speaker 1: that they need a hell of a lot more power
1:08:53
Speaker 1: than is even available. And the big problem with this,
1:08:56
Speaker 1: and I mentioned it the other day when you talk
1:08:58
Speaker 1: about the Democrats scream about affordability, and I mentioned to
1:09:02
Speaker 1: you off air my outrageous Duke Bill, all things being equal,
1:09:06
Speaker 1: it was a hell of a lot higher. There's an
1:09:08
Speaker 1: affordability problem, but it's brought about by our own stupid
1:09:11
Speaker 1: rules and regulations. It takes like almost ten years to
1:09:15
Speaker 1: get an energy producing project like a natural gas plant.
1:09:19
Speaker 1: There's no rocket science involved in that. We've been doing
1:09:21
Speaker 1: those for years, but it takes forever to get it
1:09:23
Speaker 1: permit you need it. Demonstrably, all these commissions and all
1:09:28
Speaker 1: these industry leaders, the people who have electricity demands, including
1:09:32
Speaker 1: AI facilities, are screaming out loud about the limited power delivery. Yeah,
1:09:35
Speaker 1: but you sorry, We'll wait around because we have regulations
1:09:39
Speaker 1: on stacked on regulations. Yeah, we do.
1:09:41
Speaker 7: And that's one of the things that this current administration,
1:09:44
Speaker 7: through what they're calling the Energy Dominance Council, which really
1:09:48
Speaker 7: just means let's get all of the federal agencies together
1:09:51
Speaker 7: and figure out how to cut the red tape, figure
1:09:53
Speaker 7: out how we can move more quickly. You know, it
1:09:57
Speaker 7: used to be that when we wanted to build something, permitting,
1:10:00
Speaker 7: the thinking about it would take about two years and
1:10:02
Speaker 7: we'd get it on. That has moved to seven to
1:10:06
Speaker 7: ten years under successive administrations, and the current president wants
1:10:10
Speaker 7: to bring it back to eighteen months. But a couple
1:10:14
Speaker 7: things standing in the way. Number one is the permitting
1:10:17
Speaker 7: laws themselves need to be changed because people have figured
1:10:22
Speaker 7: out how to manipulate the system, and it's been manipulated
1:10:26
Speaker 7: not to make it too quick, but to make it
1:10:28
Speaker 7: too slow, because everyone has an opinion about what they
1:10:33
Speaker 7: should or should not do.
1:10:34
Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of money to be made by
1:10:36
Speaker 1: fighting off the building of literally anything there is. There
1:10:40
Speaker 1: is all this green money, all this foreign money and influence.
1:10:43
Speaker 1: You imagine what the Chinese Communist Party is thinking when
1:10:45
Speaker 1: they see us enact legislation that makes it more onerous
1:10:48
Speaker 1: and more expensive to produce power. They are laughing their
1:10:52
Speaker 1: collective asses off, and in fact they are pumping out
1:10:55
Speaker 1: information that pushes us toward this co Two is bad
1:10:59
Speaker 1: religion that we've all bought hook line and sinker, carbon
1:11:01
Speaker 1: dioxide plant food. You can talk about that, but the
1:11:04
Speaker 1: idea that these parts per million are a problem. It
1:11:08
Speaker 1: just makes it impossible to build efficient energy plants to
1:11:10
Speaker 1: produce constant electricity. Period. They love that, Yeah, it really does.
1:11:14
Speaker 1: And if you look back, well, well, parenthetically, while they
1:11:16
Speaker 1: continue to build multiple coal plants, natural gas plants and
1:11:20
Speaker 1: enjoy the benefits of nukew in some degree.
1:11:22
Speaker 7: Yes, and let me talk about the paragrid in just
1:11:25
Speaker 7: a second here, but I tell people, well, happy twenty
1:11:29
Speaker 7: twenty six. Did you know that in twenty twenty five
1:11:31
Speaker 7: the world used more coal than it has in any
1:11:35
Speaker 7: year of human history.
1:11:37
Speaker 1: Because we have more people, and more people and more
1:11:40
Speaker 1: technology is more electricity. Plus, there's a lot of people
1:11:44
Speaker 1: on the green side of the equation to think we
1:11:45
Speaker 1: need to hook our cars up to the grid, brig them.
1:11:48
Speaker 7: I know, right, that's a great idea. Well, and so
1:11:52
Speaker 7: you know that grid. And by the way, China, I
1:11:53
Speaker 7: would give them an a plus and energy security because
1:11:57
Speaker 7: they want it all. And people say, well, look they're
1:11:59
Speaker 7: producing yeah, but we buy them, we buy them, and yes,
1:12:04
Speaker 7: they're deploying more of everything because they want as much
1:12:08
Speaker 7: energy as they can get because they get it. And
1:12:11
Speaker 7: so you know, transmission lines are really the bottleneck of
1:12:17
Speaker 7: a two point problem. The first point is we were
1:12:20
Speaker 7: forced to retire our own coal fired power plants under
1:12:23
Speaker 7: the previous administration.
1:12:24
Speaker 1: Through a throat cutting exercise. The legislation wouldn't have shut
1:12:28
Speaker 1: them down, but for the obligation under the law.
1:12:31
Speaker 7: Yes, well, you know, if we need more power, it'll
1:12:33
Speaker 7: just magically materialize. Except it hasn't so come in, right,
1:12:37
Speaker 7: So we have a dip in available power as AI
1:12:41
Speaker 7: data centers are requiring more and more power cars and
1:12:44
Speaker 7: if you want to plug your car into the EV,
1:12:46
Speaker 7: that's more power too. And that was just supposed to
1:12:50
Speaker 7: magically sort itself out. But those same permitting regulations that
1:12:53
Speaker 7: we need change. You can't build a power plant either,
1:12:56
Speaker 7: and then overlay that with a transmission system that is
1:13:00
Speaker 7: forty five years old on average, not designed to handle
1:13:05
Speaker 7: what we need it to, not designed to go where
1:13:08
Speaker 7: people are moving to, not designed to connect to a
1:13:12
Speaker 7: power plant that has yet to be built in a
1:13:15
Speaker 7: place where there is no grid.
1:13:16
Speaker 1: And we have a problem, major problem. And you know,
1:13:20
Speaker 1: when you get to states like California, where these decrepit
1:13:23
Speaker 1: power transmission lines are hanging in dense forests that haven't
1:13:27
Speaker 1: been cleared of underbrush, give a massive potential for wildfires
1:13:30
Speaker 1: through the well, these power lines dropping.
1:13:33
Speaker 7: And that has happened, has it?
1:13:35
Speaker 1: It has? Indeed, I haven't read anything about that Brigham here.
1:13:38
Speaker 7: Yeah, it has. And by the way, if you're a
1:13:40
Speaker 7: power company in California, you are strictly liable for anything
1:13:43
Speaker 7: that you might cause. Even though the government won't let
1:13:45
Speaker 7: you upgrade your power lines and won't let you cut
1:13:47
Speaker 7: the vegetation.
1:13:48
Speaker 1: Still your fault, right, Or keep the reservoirs filled with water,
1:13:52
Speaker 1: life saving water to put fires out, yeah yeah, Or
1:13:55
Speaker 1: micromanage the actions of the fire department during major conflictations.
1:13:59
Speaker 1: It's a real well. Anyhow to Brigham Account, we're going
1:14:02
Speaker 1: to continue on this discussion. We've got lots of topics
1:14:05
Speaker 1: to go over. Nuclear of course, we will talk about
1:14:07
Speaker 1: that energy policy by litigation, on and on and on.
1:14:11
Speaker 1: You can find them at Hudson dot org and also
1:14:13
Speaker 1: again charged the conversations with Brigham Account. Find the podcast
1:14:18
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Speaker 1: Spending an hour here in studio Brigham account from Hudson.
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Speaker 1: It's too he's responsible for charge to conversations, and Aim
1:14:39
Speaker 1: suggests what he talks about, which is energy policy. An
1:14:41
Speaker 1: expert in energy policy, he is, even so much so
1:14:44
Speaker 1: that they called him up to DC to spend some
1:14:46
Speaker 1: time talking with the experts there about where our economic future,
1:14:49
Speaker 1: our energy policy future is going, and hope to god
1:14:52
Speaker 1: it's repealing rules, regulations and impediments, to fixing our grid,
1:14:56
Speaker 1: to building new reliable power sources, to meeting the demands
1:14:59
Speaker 1: of the general American public, not just for some AI facility,
1:15:03
Speaker 1: but for all of us. I mean, Lord Almighty, you
1:15:05
Speaker 1: know what it's like to deal without your Verizon phone
1:15:07
Speaker 1: for ten hours? What about if the lights go out
1:15:09
Speaker 1: for ten, fifteen, twenty hours because they can't meet the demands,
1:15:13
Speaker 1: And that has happened before, and they talk about it
1:15:15
Speaker 1: more and more brigging.
1:15:16
Speaker 7: They have, and there would be total chaos. Could you
1:15:18
Speaker 7: imagine if we went two or three days without electricity.
1:15:21
Speaker 7: Well we've been through that and like, oh they're storms,
1:15:23
Speaker 7: storms that came through.
1:15:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big deal.
1:15:26
Speaker 4: It is.
1:15:26
Speaker 7: And you know, energy underpins our entire life. We can't
1:15:29
Speaker 7: do anything without it. We can't go out to shop,
1:15:33
Speaker 7: we can't read, we can't connect bank, buy food, keep
1:15:37
Speaker 7: it cold.
1:15:39
Speaker 1: Well, someone had said that. The other day was an
1:15:41
Speaker 1: article about the power going off and how they were
1:15:44
Speaker 1: freezing in their own homes because there hadn't been powered
1:15:46
Speaker 1: a few days. And they had just gone to the
1:15:48
Speaker 1: grocery store and had their entire fridge filled with fresh
1:15:51
Speaker 1: And I said to myself, just put them outside. You're
1:15:56
Speaker 1: not going to have your grocery spoiled anyway. But it
1:15:59
Speaker 1: is a legitimate problem. Will die, It is?
1:16:01
Speaker 7: It is, And you know, it's interesting you raise that
1:16:04
Speaker 7: point because climate activists will talk about how climate change
1:16:07
Speaker 7: is killing people. Yet more people die in Europe lack
1:16:11
Speaker 7: of air conditioning than anything else. Bro, people die if
1:16:14
Speaker 7: they freeze to death. I think you know the metrics
1:16:17
Speaker 7: we've been a little bit off on, and it is
1:16:20
Speaker 7: extremely important that we have affordable and reliable power. And
1:16:27
Speaker 7: you know, I'll tell you brown a lot of the
1:16:28
Speaker 7: upgrades that have to happen, We're gonna have to rear
1:16:29
Speaker 7: where that money's going to come from, because you know
1:16:33
Speaker 7: those aren't free either.
1:16:34
Speaker 1: No, you should pay for them.
1:16:35
Speaker 2: No.
1:16:36
Speaker 1: And in furtherance of your point, I have to recommend
1:16:39
Speaker 1: my listeners. And I mentioned this in my earlier comments
1:16:41
Speaker 1: in the five o'clock hour Worth finding. I think you'll
1:16:45
Speaker 1: find it on OutKick. I believe that is a website.
1:16:47
Speaker 1: I found the article from Ian Miller on zero head.
1:16:52
Speaker 1: He was reposted there headlined twenty years later An Inconvenient Truth,
1:16:57
Speaker 1: which is al Gore's two thousand and six documentary and
1:17:00
Speaker 1: Convenient Truth has been thoroughly debunked, and they walk through
1:17:02
Speaker 1: all of his gloom and doom claims and point out
1:17:05
Speaker 1: that every single one of them has not come true
1:17:08
Speaker 1: at all. In fact, some are. The situation now is
1:17:10
Speaker 1: even better than it was when al Gore was predicting
1:17:12
Speaker 1: we were all gonna die. This is a load of crap, Brigham,
1:17:17
Speaker 1: you know it is.
1:17:17
Speaker 7: And I think there are well intentioned people, and look,
1:17:19
Speaker 7: we all wanted to dupe.
1:17:20
Speaker 1: They're useful idiots, Brigham. Let's call them what they are. Well,
1:17:25
Speaker 1: they listens, got Okay, they got misguided. I don't know
1:17:30
Speaker 1: if he was making it up as he goes along,
1:17:32
Speaker 1: like they did with all these COVID nineteen ten foot rules.
1:17:35
Speaker 1: But you know, what he said didn't come true. We
1:17:37
Speaker 1: get twenty years to look at. And the other point
1:17:40
Speaker 1: the article makes it, it's an extremely valuable one. He
1:17:42
Speaker 1: starts with carbon dioxide readings in the nineteen fifties. The
1:17:46
Speaker 1: planet's four and a half billion years old, and the
1:17:48
Speaker 1: furthest back there, the farthest back they can go with,
1:17:50
Speaker 1: like bor sampling with Arctic ice, it's six hundred and
1:17:54
Speaker 1: fifty thousand years, which still represents only a fraction of
1:17:57
Speaker 1: the time the globe has been around. You know, we've
1:17:59
Speaker 1: made it this far with ebbs and flows the carbon dioxide.
1:18:01
Speaker 1: The plants love it, so I think we're going to
1:18:03
Speaker 1: be just fine. Plus it's so slow, this incremental increase
1:18:08
Speaker 1: of CO two. Even if you think it's going to
1:18:09
Speaker 1: have an impact, we will be able to deal with
1:18:12
Speaker 1: it by moving and adjusting as time rolls on.
1:18:15
Speaker 7: We have to do it now, absolutely, you know. And
1:18:18
Speaker 7: one of the things I talk about is something called
1:18:21
Speaker 7: the energy mix, and that is where do we get
1:18:23
Speaker 7: all of our energy from right. And just like a
1:18:26
Speaker 7: carpenter doesn't use a hammer on everything.
1:18:28
Speaker 1: I've tried.
1:18:29
Speaker 7: It doesn't work. Yeah, you know, the energy mix will
1:18:32
Speaker 7: naturally change over time as technology changes, as we have advances.
1:18:36
Speaker 7: But you can't be at a university and draw something
1:18:40
Speaker 7: on the whiteboard and demand that it happens. So I
1:18:43
Speaker 7: say that molecules eats policy for lunch pretty much every
1:18:47
Speaker 7: day of the week. You can't just will stuff. And unfortunately,
1:18:51
Speaker 7: this climate religion, which is what it is, it has,
1:18:56
Speaker 7: you know, has been the ruin of many people.
1:18:59
Speaker 1: And you know, Germany, I don't know if you saw this.
1:19:01
Speaker 1: I am painfully aware. I followed Germany's economy and they've
1:19:04
Speaker 1: done it to themselves. They're a cautionary tale for the
1:19:06
Speaker 1: whole planet. They really are.
1:19:08
Speaker 7: And uh, Chancellor Mertz came out I think yesterday or
1:19:12
Speaker 7: when or Tuesday, if forget what today it is myself
1:19:15
Speaker 7: and said, hey, we need nuclear power in Germany. That
1:19:18
Speaker 7: was a huge mistake, thankfully, and they don't usually do
1:19:22
Speaker 7: that to themselves, and.
1:19:23
Speaker 1: They admits mistakes. No, that's not very German. Yeah, it's
1:19:26
Speaker 1: not here. You are stereotyping. We're painting with a broad brush.
1:19:29
Speaker 1: Break I mean, you know, that's not a lot on
1:19:30
Speaker 1: the fifty five care. They want to show you all
1:19:31
Speaker 1: those Germans out there who are not who are not
1:19:35
Speaker 1: afraid of admitting when they're wrong. Congrats to you, you
1:19:38
Speaker 1: buck the trend.
1:19:38
Speaker 7: Well, you know, if you think about the Germans are
1:19:40
Speaker 7: very efficient, they're engineers. They used to have gotten it right.
1:19:44
Speaker 1: But h Nick Seville, Nick Suvill, not so much. Well,
1:19:48
Speaker 1: isn't that true? Yeah, it's just it's crazy and you
1:19:51
Speaker 1: know the weird thing. And we'll get to that nuclear
1:19:53
Speaker 1: policy coming up. That's one of my favorite topics because
1:19:56
Speaker 1: you know, if okay, so I can't convince you that
1:19:58
Speaker 1: you've been duped by the I'M religion, that you are
1:20:01
Speaker 1: a useful idiot. You don't believe that you think the
1:20:03
Speaker 1: climate alarmism is a good thing and that carbon dox
1:20:05
Speaker 1: that is a bad thing. The answer to everyone's prayers
1:20:08
Speaker 1: then is nuclear power is nuclear. We'll talk about that
1:20:11
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1:20:51
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1:20:56
Speaker 1: So if there's moving over to nuclear power since we talked,
1:21:01
Speaker 1: you know, generally speaking about the needs, the demand increasing,
1:21:04
Speaker 1: the regulatory hurdles that are impediments to let's say the
1:21:07
Speaker 1: seven to ten years it takes to get a natural
1:21:10
Speaker 1: gas plant online. If that's bad, the regulatory impediments are
1:21:14
Speaker 1: using nuclear power, totally carbon free, small footprint. They put
1:21:20
Speaker 1: them in submarines, which have never had a problem. We've
1:21:23
Speaker 1: been doing submarine nuke power since nineteen fifties, bring them.
1:21:26
Speaker 1: How come we can't have it ourselves? But it is
1:21:29
Speaker 1: a push now. Yeah, the the green alarmists, while they
1:21:32
Speaker 1: never embraced nuke, in fact, they rejected it completely out
1:21:35
Speaker 1: of hand. It's the ultimate miracle to solve their alleged
1:21:39
Speaker 1: problem and they hated it. But now because AI companies
1:21:42
Speaker 1: are online, all these billionaires like Gates and others are saying,
1:21:45
Speaker 1: we need to be able to produce our our unpound power.
1:21:49
Speaker 1: They're really defaulting with small modular reactors. They are.
1:21:52
Speaker 7: And to your point, and as an avy vet, I
1:21:54
Speaker 7: will say, yeah, we created the first SMMR is a
1:21:58
Speaker 7: long time ago. They fit inside a marine, they'd fit inside.
1:22:01
Speaker 1: A fifteen fifty.
1:22:03
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:22:03
Speaker 7: Yeah, We've had nuclear powered guided missile cruisers in the
1:22:07
Speaker 7: past as well. And today's nuclear technology very different from
1:22:11
Speaker 7: the nineteen fifties, nineteen sixties.
1:22:13
Speaker 1: Years light years.
1:22:15
Speaker 2: You know.
1:22:15
Speaker 7: I like my dad's sixty six Mustang, But truthfully, wasn't
1:22:18
Speaker 7: that good of a car.
1:22:19
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't. I made the mistake of driving my
1:22:22
Speaker 1: my ultimate dream car at one point was as thinking
1:22:24
Speaker 1: about as a daily driver sixty seven fastback Mustang. Oh yeah,
1:22:28
Speaker 1: and I got the chance to drive one that had
1:22:30
Speaker 1: been rotissary restored noffles. Now it's like driving the team
1:22:33
Speaker 1: can bridges powers, no power, sting, no power anything, and
1:22:37
Speaker 1: it feels like a death trap. Yep, it's just on frame.
1:22:39
Speaker 1: I wish I'd never driven. Its my bubble.
1:22:42
Speaker 7: Ah, but it looks so good. But today's nuclear powers
1:22:45
Speaker 7: nothing like the past. When people say, well what about
1:22:48
Speaker 7: three mile Island, Uh, well, which may come back by
1:22:51
Speaker 7: the way, different start or Chernobyl, totally different stuff. And yeah,
1:22:56
Speaker 7: so one of the things we've.
1:22:58
Speaker 1: Done because.
1:23:01
Speaker 7: You know, nuclear is a little bit different than your
1:23:03
Speaker 7: average fired reactor. It's all about creating heat to make
1:23:07
Speaker 7: steam to turn turbines.
1:23:09
Speaker 1: Whether it is.
1:23:11
Speaker 7: Whether using coal or nuclear power, it's the same basic philosophy.
1:23:15
Speaker 7: And yeah, we need to cut the red tape and
1:23:18
Speaker 7: figure out how to do this. We've spent the last
1:23:21
Speaker 7: twenty thirty years trying not to build anything right, and
1:23:25
Speaker 7: we can't do that. You know, as we've talked about
1:23:27
Speaker 7: seven to ten years, when people say, well, in five
1:23:29
Speaker 7: years will be all driving evs, well that's pretty interesting
1:23:33
Speaker 7: because five to ten years from now, the power grid
1:23:36
Speaker 7: that's outside it's going to be the same.
1:23:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't fix that first.
1:23:39
Speaker 7: Yeah, good look, but yeah, so you know one new
1:23:44
Speaker 7: reactor they run, really they run about ninety eight percent
1:23:47
Speaker 7: of the time twenty four to seven. An average size
1:23:50
Speaker 7: reactor can power half a million to three quarter of
1:23:53
Speaker 7: a million homes. A larger reactor well over a million.
1:23:57
Speaker 7: So what is that equal? That equals let's see million homes.
1:24:00
Speaker 7: For a large reactor, you would need ten or eleven
1:24:03
Speaker 7: million solar panels to do that, assuming we're in the
1:24:09
Speaker 7: daylight solar panels.
1:24:10
Speaker 1: And I understand nuke plants do require maintenance, of course,
1:24:14
Speaker 1: like anything with moving parts. But you got to go
1:24:16
Speaker 1: and polish and clean up those damn solar panels and
1:24:18
Speaker 1: they fall apart, you got to replace them. That is
1:24:20
Speaker 1: a regular, ongoing, twenty four to seven kind of maintenance
1:24:23
Speaker 1: upgate project.
1:24:24
Speaker 7: It is. And you know, if you want to have
1:24:27
Speaker 7: some rooftop solar or you've got a cabin in the
1:24:29
Speaker 7: woods or you know, fill in the blank, have at it,
1:24:32
Speaker 7: but it can't replace base load power. And base load
1:24:36
Speaker 7: power means that amount of power that we need twenty
1:24:38
Speaker 7: four to seven, even when you're sleeping, you know, we
1:24:41
Speaker 7: don't go below a minimum amount of power that we
1:24:44
Speaker 7: need that has to be reliable power, and one of
1:24:47
Speaker 7: the ways to do that, honestly is with nuclear and
1:24:52
Speaker 7: we are moving forward. No two reactors in the United
1:24:57
Speaker 7: States are exactly designed to like which like the re
1:25:00
Speaker 7: vent the wheel.
1:25:00
Speaker 1: Every time they build one. That's the problem.
1:25:02
Speaker 7: Every car is different from the last one. That's just
1:25:05
Speaker 7: crazy on the same assembly line. Well, there is no
1:25:06
Speaker 7: assembly line. That's what we're trying to get to with
1:25:09
Speaker 7: these SMRs is we license a product and we replicate it,
1:25:14
Speaker 7: and like plugging in multiple batteries in parallel, you can
1:25:18
Speaker 7: you can put these things together. You need more, great,
1:25:21
Speaker 7: you need add one, Yeah, we'll add one.
1:25:23
Speaker 1: It's lego technology. Five years from now, you needlrab a
1:25:27
Speaker 1: nuke reactor and put it down next to the one
1:25:30
Speaker 1: you previously bought. You can build them to get the
1:25:32
Speaker 1: exact same way and shape and form and keep them
1:25:35
Speaker 1: like any other product on the shelf. I know I'm
1:25:37
Speaker 1: boiling it down to its basic terms. I am not
1:25:39
Speaker 1: a nuclear physicist, but that's the concept.
1:25:42
Speaker 7: That's right, and the ideal is it's scalable, less expensive,
1:25:48
Speaker 7: and you know, you plug and play as you go.
1:25:52
Speaker 7: The other point is you mentioned solar panels, which have
1:25:55
Speaker 7: a fifteen to Well, let's give them the max twenty
1:25:58
Speaker 7: five lifespan. Lifespan a nuclear power plant used to be
1:26:02
Speaker 7: licensed for fifty years. The new ones that we're putting
1:26:05
Speaker 7: in can have an eighty year life cycle.
1:26:08
Speaker 1: Oh well, that sounds like a sound investment. Let's pause.
1:26:12
Speaker 1: We'll bring Brigham back to answer the following question. Yeah, Brigham,
1:26:16
Speaker 1: but the reason environmentalists hate him is because the nuclear
1:26:18
Speaker 1: waste map seven here fifty five KC. The talk station
1:26:22
Speaker 1: by the time was Brigham account Hudson Institute. He's the
1:26:25
Speaker 1: host of Charged Conversation podcasts. He is an energy policy expert.
1:26:29
Speaker 1: Been talking about energy generation in this country. So we
1:26:31
Speaker 1: start with the fact that we do not generate enough electricity.
1:26:34
Speaker 1: The green people stood in the way of creating abundant,
1:26:37
Speaker 1: reliable power generation plants, whether it be coal or natural
1:26:41
Speaker 1: gas or nuclear, something that runs all the time and
1:26:44
Speaker 1: then can fill the gaps in left by the windmill
1:26:46
Speaker 1: and the sun and the solar panels which don't work
1:26:49
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. And we were talking about small modular
1:26:53
Speaker 1: reactors in the last segment. I think that is the
1:26:55
Speaker 1: ultimate answer to all of our prayers. Again, they're individual
1:26:58
Speaker 1: they're small in size, produce abundance of power with a
1:27:01
Speaker 1: very small footprint by comparison to the three mile island
1:27:04
Speaker 1: version of nuclear plants that we're around in the nineteen seventies. Yes,
1:27:08
Speaker 1: technology has advanced and they don't produce carbon dioxide for
1:27:12
Speaker 1: people to think it's a problem with global warming or something.
1:27:15
Speaker 1: But then riggan, what about the nuclear waste? Oh my god,
1:27:21
Speaker 1: we got to put this nuclear waste someplace? Yeah? Have
1:27:24
Speaker 1: you noticed?
1:27:26
Speaker 7: Yeah, you may remember this from law school. When the
1:27:28
Speaker 7: facts on your side argue the facts when they're not
1:27:31
Speaker 7: argue emotion. Yeah remember that. Yeah, sure, yeah, so we're
1:27:34
Speaker 7: all going to die.
1:27:35
Speaker 1: That is the it's the tier. You start with your
1:27:38
Speaker 1: strongest legal argument and that by the time you're at
1:27:41
Speaker 1: your last legal argument, it's an argument about a change
1:27:44
Speaker 1: in law because of public policy. Right, you need to
1:27:48
Speaker 1: change the law. You're in desperation mode.
1:27:50
Speaker 2: On that.
1:27:51
Speaker 7: You are in desperation and I think you know, again,
1:27:53
Speaker 7: this is not the nineteen seventies.
1:27:54
Speaker 1: We've come a long way.
1:27:55
Speaker 7: But even if you took all of the radioactive material
1:28:00
Speaker 7: from all of the civilian nuclear power plants to date
1:28:03
Speaker 7: and we went up here to I don't know Mohler Princeton.
1:28:07
Speaker 7: Take your pick and throw it all on the football field.
1:28:10
Speaker 7: It would be less than six feet high.
1:28:13
Speaker 1: All of it, all of it less than six feet high.
1:28:15
Speaker 1: And we built that massive hole in the was a
1:28:18
Speaker 1: Yucca mountain. We did.
1:28:21
Speaker 7: We did, which we haven't been able to use because
1:28:25
Speaker 7: remember Harry Reid, that guy from Nevada, did not want it. Yeah,
1:28:29
Speaker 7: not in my backyard. Actually worked on that. I worked
1:28:32
Speaker 7: on the railroad design that was going to bring that
1:28:34
Speaker 7: into the mountain. But you know, there is some low
1:28:39
Speaker 7: level way so I'm not including on my football field analogy,
1:28:42
Speaker 7: but that stuff breaks down very quickly because old reactors
1:28:46
Speaker 7: were not a closed loop, so you would have some
1:28:48
Speaker 7: water contamination, very low level. You know, if you go
1:28:52
Speaker 7: on a nuclear powered submarine, which I've had the honor
1:28:55
Speaker 7: of doing before, and you have to wear a docimitter
1:28:58
Speaker 7: just in case. My readings indicated that I got less
1:29:03
Speaker 7: exposure for not being in the sun. So yeah, this
1:29:10
Speaker 7: is the thing. And the new generation reactors, the way
1:29:14
Speaker 7: they're designed is what we call closed loop systems. You
1:29:18
Speaker 7: don't get the volume or the amount that you got
1:29:22
Speaker 7: in the past, and a lot of it is now
1:29:24
Speaker 7: recycled entirely, so you're generating very little.
1:29:29
Speaker 1: Waste, Okay, very little waste compared to the complete totality
1:29:35
Speaker 1: of all the waste ever only being six foot high
1:29:38
Speaker 1: on a regular standard football field.
1:29:40
Speaker 7: Not the higher enriched stuff. And yeah, it does have
1:29:42
Speaker 7: a very long half life. And if we can get
1:29:44
Speaker 7: to fusion, that's the ultimate dream. There is no waste
1:29:49
Speaker 7: long term, it breaks down so quickly.
1:29:52
Speaker 1: Well, and then there's the question of enrichment. Now we
1:29:55
Speaker 1: all learn from the Iranians what it takes to enriched
1:29:57
Speaker 1: to nuclear bomb level. That's like in the eighty five
1:30:00
Speaker 1: percent plus range. Yeah, how much enrichment of uranium needs
1:30:05
Speaker 1: to be done to get a regular nuclear plant level fuel.
1:30:08
Speaker 7: Now, for most of these advanced designs, it's about three
1:30:11
Speaker 7: to five percent, three to five which is why when
1:30:13
Speaker 7: the Iranians are like, well, this is peaceful, we're at
1:30:15
Speaker 7: sixty five percent.
1:30:17
Speaker 1: You know, nobody should believe that, now, A little bird
1:30:19
Speaker 1: told me at one point. Now, the nuclear reactors on
1:30:22
Speaker 1: military vessels are a much higher enrichment level because of
1:30:26
Speaker 1: the small space.
1:30:28
Speaker 7: Correct and the desire and inaccessibility of or ease of
1:30:34
Speaker 7: refueling them.
1:30:35
Speaker 1: Exactly you had told me off air than in the
1:30:37
Speaker 1: old days used to have to cut a hole in
1:30:38
Speaker 1: the side of the submarine every twenty years to replace
1:30:41
Speaker 1: the nuclear fuel modern nuclear actors. On modern let's say
1:30:46
Speaker 1: aircraft carriers. Wait for this fun fact, folks, they have
1:30:50
Speaker 1: a fifty year lifespan with the reactors, no changing of
1:30:53
Speaker 1: fuel at.
1:30:54
Speaker 7: All with the ones we're building now.
1:30:57
Speaker 1: Yes, fifty years. And how fast does that a modern
1:31:02
Speaker 1: aircraft carrier travel in terms of knots?
1:31:06
Speaker 2: You know?
1:31:06
Speaker 7: So I think unclassified it will say in excess of
1:31:10
Speaker 7: I don't know, twenty five or thirty knots. But let's
1:31:12
Speaker 7: just say it's a lot faster.
1:31:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot faster, folks. It isn't really necessarily confidential information.
1:31:19
Speaker 1: But my friends in the Navy know damn well how
1:31:21
Speaker 1: fast those things go. And it is almost impossible to
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Speaker 1: believe faster than like your speedboat there on the Ohio
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Speaker 1: seven forty five. Right now, if you bove carse the
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Speaker 1: talk station, we'll hear from U. We'll get our crime
1:31:34
Speaker 1: stop or bad guy the week right out of the gate.
1:31:36
Speaker 1: Then we'll finish up with Brigha McGowan on energy policy.
1:31:38
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Speaker 1: We've been talking generally speaking about our ridiculous energy policies
1:31:50
Speaker 1: and how they stand in the way of the demand
1:31:52
Speaker 1: that is obvious and evident and denied by no one.
1:31:56
Speaker 1: No one can deny the realities of our need for
1:31:59
Speaker 1: electricity and increasing need and it keeps going up a lot,
1:32:02
Speaker 1: most notably because of artificial intelligence. But more people on
1:32:04
Speaker 1: the planet alone creates demand for more electricity. That's how
1:32:08
Speaker 1: we live, thrive, and svive. So with that in the background,
1:32:10
Speaker 1: knowing full well that the green alarmists have polluted our
1:32:14
Speaker 1: elected officials with this religion, what we what's the fixed
1:32:18
Speaker 1: Brigham cleaning them out and starting with new slate. I
1:32:21
Speaker 1: don't know how you're going to convince people not to
1:32:24
Speaker 1: turn their back and become heretics to the climate religion.
1:32:27
Speaker 1: But I mean, we need congressional action. So there you go.
1:32:32
Speaker 1: There we are.
1:32:33
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right, And like a lot of things these days, congress,
1:32:37
Speaker 7: DC policy politics, it's all polarized. But you know what
1:32:42
Speaker 7: you've said is one hundred percent accurate. Brian energy policy
1:32:44
Speaker 7: in America is no later. No longer made in Congress,
1:32:47
Speaker 7: It's made in court. And so we have energy policy
1:32:52
Speaker 7: stopped being made because Congress stopped making hard decisions a
1:32:57
Speaker 7: long time ago. When Congress punts either a president fills
1:33:03
Speaker 7: the vacuum. More likely the agencies of that administration fill
1:33:07
Speaker 7: the vacuum with regulations. The more detailed regulations are, the
1:33:12
Speaker 7: more most of these lawsuits are about procedure, not about outcome,
1:33:16
Speaker 7: and they delay things forever, and then courts become the
1:33:19
Speaker 7: decision makers. And look, I respect very much judges in
1:33:24
Speaker 7: this country as a lawyer myself, but they're not equipped
1:33:29
Speaker 7: to make these kind of policies.
1:33:31
Speaker 1: Are our elected officials brig them? Let's cut to the chase.
1:33:34
Speaker 1: Can Guam capsize my favorite illustration of the revelation of
1:33:39
Speaker 1: the stupidity of our elected officials. I bet you not
1:33:42
Speaker 1: a one of them knows anything about the realities of
1:33:44
Speaker 1: nuclear reactor production or anything related to the dangers associated
1:33:49
Speaker 1: with it, unless it's some opinion piece that some lobbyists
1:33:52
Speaker 1: handed to them.
1:33:53
Speaker 7: Well, there are people in Congress that are knowledgeable. I'm
1:33:56
Speaker 7: surprised everyone. Every once in a while, I'm surprised. I
1:33:59
Speaker 7: see there are but no, no, no, you're absolutely right because all.
1:34:02
Speaker 1: Of them are not, and the vast majority of them
1:34:04
Speaker 1: are not. But yet they're writing laws that hobble us.
1:34:08
Speaker 1: They cripple us, well.
1:34:09
Speaker 7: They are, and or like on appropriations bills or the budget,
1:34:15
Speaker 7: they keep punting. And you know, when you sit back,
1:34:18
Speaker 7: you talk to Democrats, you're like, well, yeah, we need
1:34:21
Speaker 7: permitting reform because I want to build wind mills and
1:34:24
Speaker 7: solar panels. You go to the Republicans and they're like,
1:34:26
Speaker 7: we need permitting reform because we want to build our stuff,
1:34:30
Speaker 7: and you get them both in the room. You're like, guys,
1:34:32
Speaker 7: until we have permitting reform, you guys over here can't
1:34:35
Speaker 7: build your stuff, and you guys over here can't build
1:34:37
Speaker 7: your stuff. Yeah, but we don't want their stuff. We
1:34:39
Speaker 7: just want our stuff. I go, well, that's not how
1:34:41
Speaker 7: it works. And meanwhile, not only can we not build energy,
1:34:45
Speaker 7: we can't build any infrastructure.
1:34:47
Speaker 1: Get rid. Okay, here's the answer to the question. Got
1:34:50
Speaker 1: your green side, you got your practical side. Both of
1:34:53
Speaker 1: them want their permitting reform, don't want the other guys
1:34:55
Speaker 1: permitting reforms. Your point is, get rid of a reform,
1:34:58
Speaker 1: all of it. Everybody, this project can be approved as
1:35:02
Speaker 1: easily as the next guys. Now, competition is in full
1:35:06
Speaker 1: play with no government manipulation. Are you gonna build a
1:35:09
Speaker 1: solar panel array or you're gonna build a small modular reactor?
1:35:12
Speaker 1: And what's gonna give you the better bang for the buck?
1:35:14
Speaker 1: What's gonna get approved the small modular reactor?
1:35:18
Speaker 7: Yes, and you know what, you let the uh we
1:35:22
Speaker 7: say this all the time. Let the consumers decide what
1:35:24
Speaker 7: they want. If you're in California and you want five
1:35:27
Speaker 7: dollar gas, then fine, you gonna have five dollar gas policies.
1:35:30
Speaker 1: Move there.
1:35:31
Speaker 7: If you want solar panels in California, great solar panels
1:35:34
Speaker 7: are great where the sun shines. You know, we we
1:35:37
Speaker 7: tried to uh, there were some people in Alaska said,
1:35:39
Speaker 7: we need solar panels up here, like really six months
1:35:42
Speaker 7: out of the year on the side of the building,
1:35:45
Speaker 7: literally on the side of the building because the angle
1:35:47
Speaker 7: the single too right.
1:35:48
Speaker 1: Now, again, it doesn't it get like completely dark there?
1:35:50
Speaker 1: It does half the year.
1:35:51
Speaker 2: It does.
1:35:51
Speaker 7: Yeah, at least it's very light for half of the
1:35:53
Speaker 7: year depending on where you are, but it's very dark.
1:35:55
Speaker 1: For that solar panel. Better be at the right angle though,
1:35:57
Speaker 1: as you point out, so.
1:35:58
Speaker 7: Let's let's let's, you know, use common sense and deploy
1:36:02
Speaker 7: the best stuff where it works the best. The other
1:36:05
Speaker 7: problem with renewables, as you know, Brian, whether it's wind
1:36:09
Speaker 7: or solar is, you need a backup system. So you're
1:36:13
Speaker 7: creating two systems. It's belt in suspenders. It can supplement,
1:36:18
Speaker 7: it can assist why we can't take.
1:36:20
Speaker 1: The one that needs to be supplemented if the one
1:36:22
Speaker 1: who doesn't can be built without that added expense, just
1:36:25
Speaker 1: build the thing that works twenty four to seven and
1:36:28
Speaker 1: will all be happy people and the price of electricity
1:36:31
Speaker 1: will ultimately go down. Bring him account. It's always a pleasure, man,
1:36:34
Speaker 1: keep up the great work. You're always welcome here on
1:36:36
Speaker 1: the fifty five Kresey Morning Show. Find him where you
1:36:38
Speaker 1: find your podcast Charged Conversations produced by Joe Strecker of
1:36:42
Speaker 1: course he does, and of course online at Hudson dot
1:36:45
Speaker 1: org for the Hudson Institute's work. Break him. It's always
1:36:47
Speaker 1: a pleasure to having you man. Have a great weekend,
1:36:49
Speaker 1: and I'll look forward to having you back in here soon. Thanks, Brian,
1:36:51
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. My pleasure. Indeed, seven fifty six
1:36:54
Speaker 1: right now, I'll also be a pleasure talking to Corey Bowman.
1:36:56
Speaker 1: Apparently he's gonna be Corey Kenney Stiers on break post election. Yes,
1:37:11
Speaker 1: Corey Bowman ran from mayor of the City of CINCINNTAIA.
1:37:14
Speaker 1: You notice the color charted electoral map we keep permanently
1:37:17
Speaker 1: posted here on the morning show. Strekker put that up
1:37:19
Speaker 1: after the inquire produced it. So we see the red
1:37:24
Speaker 1: areas where people were smart enough to vote for you,
1:37:27
Speaker 1: Corey Bowman. And then we have the color coded chart
1:37:29
Speaker 1: showing the percentage of voters that went perval and the
1:37:33
Speaker 1: current makeup of Cincinni City Council, which is only one
1:37:35
Speaker 1: member different than it was prior to the election. And
1:37:37
Speaker 1: it's all you know, pervall fifty to seventy, per ball
1:37:40
Speaker 1: seventy one to eighty four, and per ball eighty five
1:37:42
Speaker 1: to one hundred. This, of course, based upon the reality
1:37:44
Speaker 1: of the last fall election where only one out of
1:37:47
Speaker 1: twenty five registered voters or people actually showed up to vote.
1:37:51
Speaker 1: It's insane, Corey. I don't get it. I don't understand
1:37:53
Speaker 1: people's lack of interest or they're faire to pay attention
1:37:55
Speaker 1: to the problems that we all knew about going into
1:37:58
Speaker 1: the election. And here we are with the exact same
1:38:00
Speaker 1: cast of characters, and what unfolds in the aftermath is
1:38:03
Speaker 1: more information about how poorly run the city's been up
1:38:07
Speaker 1: up to the election. If we had all this information,
1:38:09
Speaker 1: like the firing of police Chief Thiji, the camera installation
1:38:13
Speaker 1: that was promised for years and denied, on and on
1:38:16
Speaker 1: and on like these are reflections of mismanagement, I mean,
1:38:18
Speaker 1: plain and simple. The whole iris rolling thing floating around
1:38:21
Speaker 1: the background that has just got everybody like, what in
1:38:23
Speaker 1: the hell is this all about? It could have been different,
1:38:26
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. So you're citizen Corey Bowman, but you're
1:38:30
Speaker 1: still a West End resident, correct, Yes, sir?
1:38:33
Speaker 3: Well, first off, thank you so much for having me.
1:38:35
Speaker 3: Good morning everybody all for listening everything. It's going to
1:38:38
Speaker 3: be a great day today. But yeah, Brian, first off,
1:38:42
Speaker 3: you know, thank you so much for the entire year
1:38:44
Speaker 3: that we were running that campaign that you consistently had
1:38:47
Speaker 3: us on talking about the issues and you know, like
1:38:50
Speaker 3: what you said, you know, when it comes to the
1:38:51
Speaker 3: management of the city, that's what we ran the race on.
1:38:54
Speaker 3: And I think that even after the election, even though
1:38:57
Speaker 3: it's not the results that we wanted to see, you know,
1:38:59
Speaker 3: the words of one of my friends, Christopher Smithman, Elections
1:39:02
Speaker 3: have consequences. Elections have consequences, and I think that one
1:39:06
Speaker 3: of the most important things we can continue to do
1:39:09
Speaker 3: is to keep these issues at the.
1:39:10
Speaker 1: Forefront of the conversation.
1:39:12
Speaker 3: You know, I made a post a while back go
1:39:14
Speaker 3: something that hit me pretty close to home, was that
1:39:17
Speaker 3: one of our church members, her granddaughter was Queen Irie,
1:39:21
Speaker 3: the eleven year old girl that got shot down.
1:39:25
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:39:25
Speaker 3: So what happened was is that her grandmother is a
1:39:27
Speaker 3: member of our church. The shooting happened at Laurel Park,
1:39:30
Speaker 3: which is about six blocks away from our church, right
1:39:33
Speaker 3: across the street from where they live. And the little
1:39:36
Speaker 3: girl two years prior, we had actually gotten a chance
1:39:39
Speaker 3: to pray with her at an outreach that we had
1:39:41
Speaker 3: at that park, at the very place where she tragically
1:39:45
Speaker 3: got her life taken away.
1:39:46
Speaker 1: You had to have a vigil there because of the
1:39:48
Speaker 1: other eleven year old that got killed there. Yeah.
1:39:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, so two years before it was Dominic Davis, and
1:39:53
Speaker 3: these are issues that we've seen throughout the city, and
1:39:56
Speaker 3: so I made a post just kind of pleading to
1:39:59
Speaker 3: the leader City Hall, just saying, this is an election here.
1:40:02
Speaker 3: I'm not making this post for another run or another race.
1:40:06
Speaker 3: I'm making this post as a citizen, as a pastor,
1:40:09
Speaker 3: as a business owner, as somebody of their community. And
1:40:11
Speaker 3: the thing is that we've got to do better. We've
1:40:13
Speaker 3: got to do better when it comes to public safety.
1:40:16
Speaker 3: And I'll just throw this in there that the answer
1:40:19
Speaker 3: to that is not just throwing more money at it.
1:40:21
Speaker 1: Well, no question about it. Although money is necessary to
1:40:24
Speaker 1: buy things like cameras, I think we all can probably
1:40:27
Speaker 1: come to a reasonable conclusion that, let's say, since the
1:40:31
Speaker 1: first eleven year old was shot in the park and
1:40:33
Speaker 1: the promise was made the cameras would be installed and
1:40:37
Speaker 1: it can't, we can acknowledge that cameras don't prevent crime,
1:40:40
Speaker 1: they deter it. I use the analogy again. Burglars know
1:40:45
Speaker 1: a house with a dog versus a house with no dog.
1:40:47
Speaker 1: They go to the house with no dog because who
1:40:49
Speaker 1: wants to take that chance? Cameras are up. It's like
1:40:52
Speaker 1: having a cop there. Do you want to take a
1:40:53
Speaker 1: chance where they can identify you even if you have
1:40:55
Speaker 1: a mask on. They can identify people based up on
1:40:57
Speaker 1: their height and their gait and their weight. With with cameras,
1:41:00
Speaker 1: there are wonderful evidentiary tools to be used in finding
1:41:03
Speaker 1: a guy that committed crime. But in front of that
1:41:06
Speaker 1: is the guy that's going to commit the crime can
1:41:09
Speaker 1: look up or know there's cameras in this area. I'm
1:41:11
Speaker 1: gonna move to an area where there's no cameras. Yeah.
1:41:14
Speaker 3: Well also too, I mean the issues that we talked
1:41:16
Speaker 3: about the entire year, right when it comes to public safety,
1:41:19
Speaker 3: this isn't rocket science. You know, the crime has been
1:41:22
Speaker 3: a problem since canaan Able, right, and there has been
1:41:25
Speaker 3: solutions to that, you know, in our city. I think
1:41:28
Speaker 3: one of the biggest things that we were pushing that
1:41:30
Speaker 3: we still push right now is I mean, number one,
1:41:32
Speaker 3: you're twenty percent understaffed as a police department. Any organization,
1:41:36
Speaker 3: any company, any type of entity that is twenty percent
1:41:39
Speaker 3: understaffed is not going to operate to the fullest of
1:41:41
Speaker 3: its ability. We've got to increase lateral hiring. We've got
1:41:45
Speaker 3: to make sure that those complement levels are up. And
1:41:47
Speaker 3: then also we've got to put pressure on the judges
1:41:51
Speaker 3: to hold criminals accountable because I talk with the people
1:41:54
Speaker 3: in the community. These criminals do not paint a right
1:41:57
Speaker 3: picture of the entire community. They don't It's a very
1:42:00
Speaker 3: small amount of people that aren't held accountable, and we've
1:42:03
Speaker 3: got to change that from the judicial system. And then finally,
1:42:06
Speaker 3: you got to bridge that gap between the police officers
1:42:10
Speaker 3: and the community they serves. One way to do that
1:42:13
Speaker 3: is to enforce low level crimes de escalation tactics and
1:42:16
Speaker 3: encourage your officers to be more involved in situations rather
1:42:19
Speaker 3: than just only swoop in at the worst case scenario.
1:42:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, along those lines, I think of the whole you know,
1:42:25
Speaker 1: the romantic notion of the beat cop. Everybody knows them,
1:42:29
Speaker 1: you know, I think of the I can't remember what
1:42:32
Speaker 1: it was the name of the program was, but swinging
1:42:35
Speaker 1: the baton, you know, the night stick walking down the
1:42:37
Speaker 1: street and saying hello to yeah, the Pleasantville andy griff
1:42:42
Speaker 1: indoors at night to make sure they're locked. I mean,
1:42:44
Speaker 1: it's all a romantic notion, but it does suggest that
1:42:47
Speaker 1: it's a friendly relationship, a familiar relationship with the people
1:42:52
Speaker 1: who the officers are patrolling in that neighborhood, and that
1:42:55
Speaker 1: connection sort of gives people the positive image of the police.
1:42:58
Speaker 3: You know, what's funny is that I was working at
1:43:00
Speaker 3: my coffee shop. I had to cover for one of
1:43:02
Speaker 3: my bearissas and as I'm in there, you know, that's
1:43:05
Speaker 3: kind of my opportunity to tell people, Hey, this is
1:43:07
Speaker 3: a good chance to meet me if you want to,
1:43:08
Speaker 3: you know, schedule meeting or whatever. I'm just going to
1:43:10
Speaker 3: be serving customers. So as I'm in there, gentlemen, comes
1:43:13
Speaker 3: in a very prominent businessman in the city, and over
1:43:17
Speaker 3: the course of thirty minutes of him in there, every
1:43:19
Speaker 3: customer came in. I probably gave a like ten second
1:43:23
Speaker 3: hug to every single one of them, saying, Hi, how's
1:43:25
Speaker 3: your family, how's this? And he just looked at me
1:43:27
Speaker 3: and said, well, you're like Andy Griffith right now, what
1:43:29
Speaker 3: the heck is going on in the West End right now?
1:43:32
Speaker 3: But then if it's okay, I want to tell a
1:43:34
Speaker 3: story about what happened that night with the eleven year
1:43:38
Speaker 3: old getting shot, because we were with the family that night,
1:43:41
Speaker 3: and this was a kind of a revelation that I
1:43:44
Speaker 3: had because you know, the first radio interview I did,
1:43:47
Speaker 3: somebody said, well, this is really personal for you now,
1:43:50
Speaker 3: and I said, well, this was always personal to me,
1:43:52
Speaker 3: even throughout the race, because it wasn't just about being
1:43:55
Speaker 3: mayor of Cincinnati. That night, I got the call from
1:43:58
Speaker 3: the grandmother me and my wife if we're about to
1:44:00
Speaker 3: go to Graters with our kids, and we go right
1:44:03
Speaker 3: to Cincinnati Children's and we were with the family during
1:44:06
Speaker 3: some of the most horrific scenes that you would ever
1:44:09
Speaker 3: see when it comes to mourning and the loss of
1:44:11
Speaker 3: a loved one, from the mother, from the father, and
1:44:14
Speaker 3: from all the cousins, young cousins. Seeing the whole yeah,
1:44:17
Speaker 3: and seeing the whole process, from the detectives, from the corner,
1:44:21
Speaker 3: from all these different processes, from how they're treated by
1:44:24
Speaker 3: social workers, all sorts of things going on, and then
1:44:27
Speaker 3: when they finally get escorted out at the end of
1:44:30
Speaker 3: the night, right, and it wasn't done rightly at all.
1:44:33
Speaker 3: When the whole family gets escorted out, we go to
1:44:36
Speaker 3: the place where Little Queen Irie was shot and it's
1:44:39
Speaker 3: at Laurel Park. It's right across the street from the
1:44:41
Speaker 3: grandmother's house. So we're there that night. I was there
1:44:45
Speaker 3: until past midnight. We got, you know, some pizzas delivered
1:44:48
Speaker 3: to the family. When something like that happens, the whole
1:44:51
Speaker 3: community comes out.
1:44:52
Speaker 1: Well.
1:44:52
Speaker 3: This is something that struck me, right, is that I'm
1:44:54
Speaker 3: out there just you know, kind of praying with people,
1:44:57
Speaker 3: talking with people about the little girl, and we're in
1:45:00
Speaker 3: in the middle of the park. Well, there's some cars
1:45:03
Speaker 3: that are pulling by that are fairly driving, fairly slow, right,
1:45:06
Speaker 3: and they've got ten windows. I mean, everybody's got ten
1:45:09
Speaker 3: windows now. But what happened was I called some contacts
1:45:12
Speaker 3: with the police department. I said, get some cruisers down
1:45:15
Speaker 3: here if you can, to Laurel Park to protect the
1:45:18
Speaker 3: family because they're out in the park their mourning. I mean,
1:45:21
Speaker 3: we're in the dirt where you can find blood where
1:45:23
Speaker 3: the girl was, right. So then the cop cars pull
1:45:26
Speaker 3: up and the whole community at first freaks out.
1:45:29
Speaker 1: And they think they're responding.
1:45:31
Speaker 3: They think they're responding right, and they think that they're
1:45:33
Speaker 3: there to try to clear them out. I raise up
1:45:36
Speaker 3: my hands and I say, no, no, no, no, no,
1:45:38
Speaker 3: that's me. Those officers are here for you, for your protection,
1:45:43
Speaker 3: to protect you. And then something just happened to where
1:45:46
Speaker 3: they realize that they could actually be on their side, right,
1:45:50
Speaker 3: And I'm sitting there thinking, isn't this what elected officials
1:45:53
Speaker 3: should be doing. Isn't this what leaders in this city
1:45:55
Speaker 3: should be doing, bridging that gap between the community and
1:45:59
Speaker 3: the police office that want to protect and serve them
1:46:02
Speaker 3: and that's.
1:46:02
Speaker 1: The last thing on the pro vol administration agenda. Corey Bowman,
1:46:06
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it was Aftab at that meet. I
1:46:09
Speaker 1: know the answer is no. It's a rhetorical question from
1:46:11
Speaker 1: jo just tracker, But no, Aftab Provoll wasn't at the
1:46:13
Speaker 1: park for your vigil. He hasn't never showed up there, has.
1:46:16
Speaker 3: He to my knowledge, And you know, I like to
1:46:19
Speaker 3: give credit.
1:46:19
Speaker 1: Where's credit, dude?
1:46:20
Speaker 3: To my knowledge, he did through a detective try to
1:46:23
Speaker 3: reach out to the family as well, and so I
1:46:26
Speaker 3: mean that's, you know, something that I think is needed
1:46:28
Speaker 3: as well, just leadership reaching out. I know there was
1:46:30
Speaker 3: a couple city council members that were there at the
1:46:33
Speaker 3: balloon release. So but this is something that we always
1:46:36
Speaker 3: have to put the forefront. Accountability, accountability to accountability. If
1:46:40
Speaker 3: we're if you've got that large amount of people proportion
1:46:44
Speaker 3: wise that are voting for these people in city Hall,
1:46:47
Speaker 3: well then it is your job to keep them accountable
1:46:49
Speaker 3: and make sure that they're doing the job of keeping
1:46:51
Speaker 3: the city safe, clean and protected.
1:46:53
Speaker 1: Corey Bowman will return. We got another segment with him
1:46:56
Speaker 1: before we get to the bottom of the ar with
1:46:57
Speaker 1: Jack Winsor, Editor in Chief, The isile Press Network a
1:47:00
Speaker 1: Neil Windsor report which you can find on zoom on
1:47:03
Speaker 1: ice in Ohio as well as property Pachas. That's the
1:47:05
Speaker 1: bottom of the hour. One more with Corey after these
1:47:07
Speaker 1: brief words. Eight eighteen Here fifty five Kercity Talk station
1:47:21
Speaker 1: post election coverage here with Corey Bowman from since formerly
1:47:25
Speaker 1: running for mayor of the City of Cincinnati. He's still
1:47:27
Speaker 1: a resident of the West End. Of course, his church
1:47:29
Speaker 1: is there, his business with King's Arms Coffee, right, yeah,
1:47:33
Speaker 1: sort of shout out, that's free plug for you. Show
1:47:35
Speaker 1: up there. A lot of people do I can you
1:47:37
Speaker 1: stay in touch with the neighborhood, get yourself a good
1:47:39
Speaker 1: cup of coffee, and support Corey Bubba, which I encourage
1:47:42
Speaker 1: you doing. Now. You mentioned earlier lateral hires, and I
1:47:45
Speaker 1: know that. See I was gonna say your campaign in
1:47:49
Speaker 1: running for mayor had a couple of really positive results
1:47:54
Speaker 1: the mayor. After that part, vol was denying that there
1:47:56
Speaker 1: was any crime to even notice in the City of Cincinnati.
1:47:59
Speaker 1: I know, I'm boiling down to its minimalist terms, but
1:48:01
Speaker 1: every time someone got hurt or shot or killed, there's
1:48:05
Speaker 1: nothing to see. It's just an you know, the violent
1:48:07
Speaker 1: crimes down. We kept hearing down, down, down, down down.
1:48:09
Speaker 1: Don't believe your eyes, don't believe the news, just believe
1:48:12
Speaker 1: me and what I'm telling you. Kind of a marketing plan.
1:48:15
Speaker 1: None of them ever supported the police. They were all
1:48:17
Speaker 1: part of many of them part of the defund the
1:48:19
Speaker 1: police movement. That was all the rage Black Lives Matter
1:48:22
Speaker 1: was going down, and we saw what happened to so
1:48:23
Speaker 1: many cities on that. So your campaign, though, elevated crime
1:48:29
Speaker 1: to the attention of the voting public. Coupled with Sarah Herringer,
1:48:35
Speaker 1: whose husband murdered in her over the wrong department, I
1:48:37
Speaker 1: don't think, I don't think Mayor I have to have
1:48:39
Speaker 1: Pearl will ever bother to pick up a phone to
1:48:41
Speaker 1: call her. But whatever, you had the violent beat down,
1:48:44
Speaker 1: most notably the issue involving Holly, who was able to
1:48:48
Speaker 1: stop the fight by stopping a cold punch with her face,
1:48:52
Speaker 1: knocking her out and causing serious bodily damage, and the
1:48:56
Speaker 1: attention that that got things are out of control in downtown.
1:48:59
Speaker 1: That was force the administration because of you and your
1:49:02
Speaker 1: pro police campaign, to rise to the challenge. We're gonna
1:49:06
Speaker 1: do this, We're addressing crime. We're gonna throw five point
1:49:08
Speaker 1: four million dollars. We're gonna put some cameras over on
1:49:10
Speaker 1: the West End, which had been promised for a couple
1:49:12
Speaker 1: of years. We're gonna hire laterally, we're gonna add additional
1:49:16
Speaker 1: police officers to fill the contingent of police officers on
1:49:19
Speaker 1: the force, which is about two hundred down. There's an idea,
1:49:24
Speaker 1: but then when they implement it, they open thirty spots up.
1:49:28
Speaker 1: And Ken Cobra, FLP president told me seven applied seven.
1:49:34
Speaker 1: Do you think that has anything to do with the
1:49:36
Speaker 1: administration's attitude toward and lack of support for the police
1:49:39
Speaker 1: department generally, Corey Bowman.
1:49:41
Speaker 3: I think absolutely, and also to just the culture of
1:49:45
Speaker 3: how it's perceived of does city Hall actually back the
1:49:48
Speaker 3: police and if the police are told to do their job,
1:49:52
Speaker 3: you know, are they gonna be protected by you know,
1:49:55
Speaker 3: the administration that hires them essentially. So, yeah, you mentioned
1:49:59
Speaker 3: that and I kind of showed you the T shirts.
1:50:02
Speaker 1: That's a great story, folks, get a load of this.
1:50:04
Speaker 3: So you know, we we tragically lost to the New
1:50:08
Speaker 3: York Jets this year. The Cincinnati Bengals did well that game.
1:50:13
Speaker 3: I actually was a part of a tailgate and just
1:50:16
Speaker 3: kind of meeting people and stuff, and one of a
1:50:18
Speaker 3: group that I was meeting was a former, well not
1:50:22
Speaker 3: former current NYPD officers. Now a lot of them had
1:50:26
Speaker 3: come into town for the game because they're all Jets fans.
1:50:30
Speaker 3: And then as I'm talking with them, you know, we
1:50:32
Speaker 3: started talking with even the union presence and all sorts
1:50:35
Speaker 3: of things that that just developed this relationship to be
1:50:39
Speaker 3: able to communicate with I mean, in my mind, the
1:50:42
Speaker 3: best of the best and the nation, you know, second
1:50:44
Speaker 3: to c CPD what should be absolutely so, as we
1:50:50
Speaker 3: were talking, I was sitting there telling these guys, hey,
1:50:53
Speaker 3: just so you know, you know, we know what's coming
1:50:56
Speaker 3: down the line with the future mayor, Mom, Dannie. We
1:50:59
Speaker 3: know that there's a lot of distrust with that current administration.
1:51:03
Speaker 3: This is what I was trying to do. Because I
1:51:05
Speaker 3: knew lateral hiring was going to be an issue. I
1:51:07
Speaker 3: had talked with many of them about the possibility of
1:51:10
Speaker 3: them moving to their families to Cincinnati, an amazing city
1:51:14
Speaker 3: that has a lower cost of living and if you
1:51:18
Speaker 3: have an administration that backs you up. All of them
1:51:21
Speaker 3: jumped at the opportunity of possibly moving to Cincinnati and
1:51:25
Speaker 3: helping with the CPD and joining the force of Cincinnati
1:51:28
Speaker 3: Police Department.
1:51:29
Speaker 1: Oh, the cost of living here is so much lower,
1:51:31
Speaker 1: it's insane.
1:51:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, So these are things that we were as a campaign.
1:51:35
Speaker 3: It wasn't just putting out videos and just saying hey,
1:51:37
Speaker 3: we want to be mayor. We were trying to find
1:51:39
Speaker 3: solutions because in my mind, this is such a key
1:51:43
Speaker 3: issue that actually down the line a lot of people
1:51:46
Speaker 3: are ignoring right now. But you've got you know, maybe
1:51:49
Speaker 3: sixty to eighty officers maybe even more than that that
1:51:52
Speaker 3: are entering that have the possibility of entering the drop
1:51:56
Speaker 3: is what they say, right, they have the ability to retire.
1:51:59
Speaker 3: Most officers under a good program don't take that retirement
1:52:04
Speaker 3: right away. They continue on, they get their pension, they
1:52:06
Speaker 3: get they build up their future for retirement. And also
1:52:10
Speaker 3: they're working a job that they love and they want
1:52:13
Speaker 3: to protect and serve the community. Right now, if things
1:52:16
Speaker 3: don't change, you know, for the door, I'm telling you
1:52:18
Speaker 3: right now, the even starting this year, there will be
1:52:21
Speaker 3: a rush for the door to where that twenty percent
1:52:23
Speaker 3: understaffed will quickly turn into thirty percent understaffed. And then
1:52:26
Speaker 3: when you try to do the lateral hiring, when you
1:52:28
Speaker 3: try to do any type of recruitment, You're going to
1:52:31
Speaker 3: see low numbers there because the confidence, the morale, the
1:52:34
Speaker 3: things that produce proper recruitment are not going to be employed.
1:52:38
Speaker 1: Well, couple with that, knowing full well that as a
1:52:39
Speaker 1: lateral hire, under the current circumstances, you are guaranteeing you
1:52:42
Speaker 1: will be working a lot of additional overtime hours, whether
1:52:45
Speaker 1: you can or want to or not.
1:52:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's something that you know, that's the culture
1:52:50
Speaker 3: of the police department right now, to where I have
1:52:52
Speaker 3: officers coming in my shop and you know, they just
1:52:55
Speaker 3: don't know what to do because they got into the
1:52:57
Speaker 3: job to protect and serve. They love the city, they
1:52:59
Speaker 3: love the communities they serve. But the culture and the
1:53:03
Speaker 3: morale has decreased so much over the years to where
1:53:08
Speaker 3: we have to do things to make it better for
1:53:10
Speaker 3: our police officers to be able to do their jobs properly.
1:53:13
Speaker 3: And that's not happening right now.
1:53:15
Speaker 1: Right And a simple non legislative, non monetary solution to that,
1:53:19
Speaker 1: something to get the process started, is to get mayor
1:53:22
Speaker 1: Aft have Provoll City Manager Cheryl Long, all of the
1:53:25
Speaker 1: members of council. First, I'd say, maybe get rid of
1:53:28
Speaker 1: Virus Rowle, who's a problem in the background, but beyond that,
1:53:31
Speaker 1: to get out loud and start encouraging this cooperation starts
1:53:35
Speaker 1: supporting the police department in the work they are doing
1:53:38
Speaker 1: protecting the residents of the City of Cincinnati, and heeding
1:53:42
Speaker 1: the advice that may come from withinside the police department
1:53:44
Speaker 1: ways to solve the problems and provide better solutions so
1:53:47
Speaker 1: that we can be better served by the police department.
1:53:49
Speaker 3: I would also end it with this is that when
1:53:52
Speaker 3: the problem of public safety always becomes an issue, the
1:53:56
Speaker 3: solution for the other side always is let's throw more
1:53:58
Speaker 3: money at it. Right Airport of All suggested that we
1:54:01
Speaker 3: raise the income taxes and the earning taxes of the
1:54:04
Speaker 3: city in order to put more into public safety. But
1:54:07
Speaker 3: I would venture to say, hey, we need to complete
1:54:09
Speaker 3: overhaul of how the money is being spent, because right
1:54:12
Speaker 3: now sixty four percent of our budget goes toward public safety.
1:54:16
Speaker 3: But what's categorized as public safety? Are these lawsuits and
1:54:20
Speaker 3: these settlements categorized in that Are all these administrative costs,
1:54:24
Speaker 3: or are these community initiatives and all these things to
1:54:27
Speaker 3: maybe paint a building or pick up trash or maybe
1:54:30
Speaker 3: all these events that don't have anything to do with
1:54:33
Speaker 3: helping your police department, with helping public safety. You know
1:54:36
Speaker 3: a lot of nonprofits and goos contractors, a lot that
1:54:40
Speaker 3: money is going toward a lot of things categorized under
1:54:43
Speaker 3: public safety that is not going toward benefiting public safety.
1:54:47
Speaker 1: Well, Irish Rolli's Son's got a job involved in public
1:54:50
Speaker 1: safety at Government Square. That resulted in some actually some
1:54:55
Speaker 1: printing work for t shirts and hoodies by Iris Rolly's
1:54:58
Speaker 1: husband apparently has a printing company, So that's all worked out. Well,
1:55:01
Speaker 1: there's no crime in Government Square anymore, is there, Corey Bowman.
1:55:03
Speaker 3: I mean, I believe that there was just a recent
1:55:05
Speaker 3: shooting that you got the guy.
1:55:07
Speaker 1: I saw that as well. We'll call that a rhetorical question.
1:55:10
Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, Happy new to you, Best of health to
1:55:13
Speaker 1: you and your family. Understand everybody's doing really well. I
1:55:15
Speaker 1: asked you that off air. But your family's doing well. Yeah.
1:55:18
Speaker 3: We just celebrated my son's sixth birthday yesterday, so he's
1:55:21
Speaker 3: very excited for that, and both my boys started school
1:55:26
Speaker 3: this year as well. So yeah, there's a lot of
1:55:28
Speaker 3: great things. We love this city. We're just going to
1:55:30
Speaker 3: keep on going and you know, just so thankful for
1:55:34
Speaker 3: people like you that and for other people that have
1:55:37
Speaker 3: had that voice in the community to be able to
1:55:39
Speaker 3: bring these issues to light. I would say that these
1:55:42
Speaker 3: people and anybody else that if you were lowed during
1:55:45
Speaker 3: an election year, be even more loud during the off
1:55:49
Speaker 3: election years. Hold people accountable because we have to see
1:55:51
Speaker 3: our city, see safe streets, prosper streets, and.
1:55:55
Speaker 1: Clean street and you like me, no one wants the
1:55:58
Speaker 1: city to survive and prosper more than us, and we
1:56:02
Speaker 1: just feel that we have better ideas for that. The
1:56:04
Speaker 1: current situation has proven to be a failure. There's a
1:56:07
Speaker 1: different path. Why not at least try it? Counsel Corey Buma,
1:56:11
Speaker 1: we will talk again soon. Keep up the great work
1:56:13
Speaker 1: and get a cup of coffee at King's Arms Coffee
1:56:15
Speaker 1: Shop in West Send. Support Corey Bowm and there's again
1:56:17
Speaker 1: a free plug for you, Corey. I'm happy to do that, he.
1:56:33
Speaker 9: Is.
1:56:33
Speaker 1: And then, of course, the return of Jack Windsor, editor
1:56:35
Speaker 1: in chief of the Hoigh Press Network. You can find
1:56:37
Speaker 1: them online at the Ohio Pressnetwork dot com. That makes sense.
1:56:41
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jack Winsor. It's great to have you on
1:56:43
Speaker 1: the fifty five CARC Morning Show.
1:56:44
Speaker 5: Sir Graham, Buck Guy as you know, was a deliverate,
1:56:49
Speaker 5: high intensity effort by DHDS and Home Security Investigators HSI deploying.
1:56:56
Speaker 5: My understanding is up to three hundred additional ICE agents
1:57:00
Speaker 5: in Ohio, concentrated in Columbus, but of course spanning the
1:57:03
Speaker 5: entire state, and it prioritized Brian the arrest of non
1:57:08
Speaker 5: citizens without legal status, emphasizing those with what we would
1:57:12
Speaker 5: call egregious criminal records, labeled the worst of the worst,
1:57:16
Speaker 5: and the operation underscores a resolute stance on immigration enforcement,
1:57:21
Speaker 5: of course from the Trump administration, and the last tally
1:57:24
Speaker 5: that we had was two hundred and eighty arrests. Now,
1:57:28
Speaker 5: I don't try to hang out on Reddit a whole
1:57:31
Speaker 5: lot because generally we find the mouth breathing neck beards
1:57:35
Speaker 5: there more than the sane minded people, but the trotal peers.
1:57:39
Speaker 5: There are watchers and trackers still telling us that ICE
1:57:43
Speaker 5: is hovering around Ohio State University Sawmill Road, So ICE
1:57:48
Speaker 5: still is in town. I've reached out to Tricia McLaughlin,
1:57:51
Speaker 5: my strong contact at the Department of Homeland Security, to
1:57:54
Speaker 5: figure out where that operation has turned. But there have
1:57:57
Speaker 5: been a lot of arrests.
1:57:58
Speaker 1: Okay, when you mentioned the eighty rust figure whether it's accurate,
1:58:01
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that we're dealing with sort of fog
1:58:04
Speaker 1: of war type reality here, but that's just in the
1:58:08
Speaker 1: the greater Columbus area.
1:58:11
Speaker 5: Well, my understanding is that is all over the Buckeye.
1:58:15
Speaker 1: Stick, oh, the whole state of Ohio. That seems like
1:58:17
Speaker 1: an extraordinarily low figure, unless, of course, Ohio has not
1:58:20
Speaker 1: been an illegal immigration magnet.
1:58:24
Speaker 5: Well, I can tell you that we've sent one hundred
1:58:26
Speaker 5: and thirty five million dollars of cash in suitcases to
1:58:31
Speaker 5: places like Minnesota and then Dubai, allegedly through the Somali
1:58:36
Speaker 5: population in Columbus. And Brian, I think that's probably the
1:58:40
Speaker 5: main reason Columbus was the focal point. And this is
1:58:45
Speaker 5: where it gets really dicey, and the mainstream press doesn't
1:58:47
Speaker 5: talk about this much. And so I'm gonna get a
1:58:49
Speaker 5: little granular here without being confusing on a morning show,
1:58:52
Speaker 5: because I know we all need our caffeine sometimes, but
1:58:55
Speaker 5: there's kind of this Misnow.
1:58:57
Speaker 1: Tell you what, Jack, hold on, Since you're gonna get
1:59:00
Speaker 1: granular and I'm at eight thirty five, let's bring you
1:59:03
Speaker 1: back and then you can get granular. Well, now, I'll
1:59:05
Speaker 1: be it's very interesting stuff here. Jack's being gonna be
1:59:07
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1:59:43
Speaker 1: we're sticking with ice. You're getting ready to get what
1:59:45
Speaker 1: you called granular. And remember I've got a weed dwelling audience, Jackson.
1:59:49
Speaker 1: Don't feel too afraid to get into some weeds that
1:59:52
Speaker 1: most of the people you talk to might not be
1:59:55
Speaker 1: hipped to. But give us the straight to the straight
1:59:57
Speaker 1: skinny there, Jack.
1:59:59
Speaker 5: Yes, so I'll keep it simple. So DHS, they really
2:00:04
Speaker 5: surged resources here to Ohio for that operation Buck Guy.
2:00:08
Speaker 5: As we just talked about before the break two hundred
2:00:10
Speaker 5: and eighty arrests were announced. And you know, one of
2:00:14
Speaker 5: the things that the press likes to talk about, Brian
2:00:17
Speaker 5: is that citizens could be investigated or arrested and that
2:00:22
Speaker 5: should be illegal. That's not the case. Homeland security investigators
2:00:28
Speaker 5: can certainly investigate citizens or for nationals who are here.
2:00:34
Speaker 5: And part of why Columbus was targeted we now know
2:00:39
Speaker 5: in retrospect. Right when Operation Buckeye was announced late December,
2:00:44
Speaker 5: we didn't know this.
2:00:45
Speaker 1: Now we do.
2:00:46
Speaker 5: One hundred and thirty five million dollars left John Glenn
2:00:49
Speaker 5: Columbus International Airport and it was essentially a Somali cash
2:00:55
Speaker 5: smuggling operation.
2:00:57
Speaker 1: And so in Columbus to Ohio. We know about this
2:01:00
Speaker 1: because the TSA agents observed the hundreds of thousands of
2:01:06
Speaker 1: dollars in suitcases that we're going through the bag scanners
2:01:10
Speaker 1: at the airport. Right well, that.
2:01:13
Speaker 5: Would seem to be the case. We're still trying to
2:01:15
Speaker 5: get the story straight on that, and don't I don't
2:01:19
Speaker 5: want to get accusatory. All we know at this juncture
2:01:22
Speaker 5: is there's one hundred and thirty five million dollars. I'll
2:01:24
Speaker 5: keep it at that. We are looking into that. By
2:01:28
Speaker 5: the way, John Solomon at Just the News has done
2:01:30
Speaker 5: a fantastic job breaking and covering this story, but that's
2:01:35
Speaker 5: part of it, right, So I really just want to
2:01:39
Speaker 5: debunk that mainstream media myth that because ICE or DHS
2:01:43
Speaker 5: is involved, that they can't look into people who might
2:01:47
Speaker 5: be alleged citizens or foreign nationals. That's absolutely not the case.
2:01:50
Speaker 5: If there is a foreign component and it's a threat
2:01:53
Speaker 5: to national security, then all bets are off and they're
2:01:56
Speaker 5: here to investigate the commission of.
2:01:58
Speaker 1: Any Christic citizens get arrested for crime all the time.
2:02:02
Speaker 1: If there's reasonable suspicions there's a crime going on, doesn't
2:02:04
Speaker 1: matter whether you're a US citizen or a foreign national,
2:02:07
Speaker 1: you're going to get investigated.
2:02:09
Speaker 5: That's exactly right. And by the way, ICE is still here,
2:02:13
Speaker 5: and what we're hearing is that the arrests are about
2:02:16
Speaker 5: two to three per day, So there has been a
2:02:18
Speaker 5: tapering off, but my guess is we might see a
2:02:22
Speaker 5: surge again. And you know, the bottom line is there
2:02:26
Speaker 5: are two things going on. We want to make sure
2:02:28
Speaker 5: that people who are here illegally and who are the
2:02:30
Speaker 5: worst of the worst. And if you go down that
2:02:32
Speaker 5: punch list of people who are arrested many of them
2:02:35
Speaker 5: have convictions or have been cited and skipped court dates,
2:02:40
Speaker 5: and so they have been apprehended. But then there's also
2:02:43
Speaker 5: that component of is their fraud, waste and abuse, say
2:02:46
Speaker 5: in the daycare system, in the home health system, in
2:02:49
Speaker 5: the transportation system, and does it have a foreign component?
2:02:53
Speaker 5: The answer is yes, and we're still gathering how big
2:02:56
Speaker 5: that is. But Brian, we're probably talking about billions of
2:02:59
Speaker 5: dollars when it's all said and down.
2:03:01
Speaker 1: So in other words, we're analogous to the situation that
2:03:04
Speaker 1: we've all been made aware of in Minnesota.
2:03:07
Speaker 5: I would say yes, And in fact, I don't know
2:03:10
Speaker 5: if you know this.
2:03:11
Speaker 1: You may.
2:03:11
Speaker 5: I was boots on the ground with a very very
2:03:15
Speaker 5: interesting character.
2:03:16
Speaker 2: I like him.
2:03:16
Speaker 5: His name is John Rocker for former Major League Baseball star.
2:03:20
Speaker 5: He came to Columbus, Ohio to check it out and
2:03:22
Speaker 5: one of the things that we just stumbled on was
2:03:24
Speaker 5: the Somali Education Resource Center. Now we couldn't find it
2:03:27
Speaker 5: because their online listings showed them closed and they were
2:03:31
Speaker 5: not where they were supposed to be. We got there,
2:03:33
Speaker 5: it is an office building. They did have a working
2:03:37
Speaker 5: doorbell and video monitoring system. Well, as it turns out,
2:03:41
Speaker 5: they've received forty three million dollars fourteen million dollars last year,
2:03:44
Speaker 5: but their credentials were revoked midyear. And so when we
2:03:48
Speaker 5: started having conversations after being out on the street, what
2:03:51
Speaker 5: we learned was six and a half million dollars may
2:03:54
Speaker 5: have been paid to the SMALI Education Resource Center improperly.
2:03:57
Speaker 5: So lawmakers now are working to call that back. But
2:04:00
Speaker 5: the key to that is that ties directly back to Minnesota.
2:04:05
Speaker 1: Wow, But trying to call back six million dollars from
2:04:08
Speaker 1: someone I'm sure has zero assets at all, and all
2:04:11
Speaker 1: that money has already been sent back to al Shabab
2:04:14
Speaker 1: through Minneapolis or even directly via wire transfer, You're never
2:04:17
Speaker 1: gonna get that money back to Where's the failure, Jack Windsor?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I that's this is statement, where's the failure?
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Speaker 1: Jack Windsor? Are do you place any blame at the
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Speaker 1: hands of you know, Thedwine administration or maybe auditor Key Faber.
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Speaker 1: I know he's trying to crack down on some of this,
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Speaker 1: at least he's paid lip service to that. I mean,
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Speaker 1: is this a just across the across the board, just collective,
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Speaker 1: typical government program where no one bothers to follow where
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Speaker 1: the money's going.
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Speaker 5: Yes, it is. And look if Dwine is gonna stand
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Speaker 5: on his little soapbox, which he needs literally because he's
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Speaker 5: about my height. If he's going to stand on his
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Speaker 5: soapbox and say, you know the buck stopped with me
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Speaker 5: during COVID, well, then Governor, the buck stops with you
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Speaker 5: on unemployment, on Medicaid, medical from this and so we've
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Speaker 5: heard this from everything is fine to Wine before, right Brian,
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Speaker 5: where he's come out and said, oh, you know, the
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Speaker 5: improper payments through the unemployment system are not significant.
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Speaker 2: Wrong.
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Speaker 5: We broke that story billions of dollars. The director left
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Speaker 5: and then he came out and said, hey, you know
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Speaker 5: the improper payments or lack of oversighted Medicaid, isn't that significant?
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Speaker 2: Wrong?
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Speaker 5: We found that that might be six billion or more
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Speaker 5: per year. The director is now gone, and so he
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Speaker 5: has the goal to get out in front of people,
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Speaker 5: in front of cameras and say, well, this is just
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Speaker 5: the cost of doing businesses and there's not significant fraud here.
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Speaker 5: I think he's going to be wrong again, and I
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Speaker 5: think that the buck does stop with him. Now, what
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Speaker 5: I will tell you when we investigated the alleged Medicaid
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Speaker 5: fraud here in Ohio that was initiated by state Representative
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Speaker 5: Mike Devilla, a Republican out of Borea. What we found
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Speaker 5: was that the Auditor's office had for a long time
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Speaker 5: attempted to do some auditing, but the Dwine administration said, no,
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Speaker 5: we can't do that because it's a hip of violation
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Speaker 5: to share too much of this information. So there was
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Speaker 5: a there were there was language put in the biennial
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Speaker 5: budget that passed last year that gave five million dollars
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Speaker 5: to auditor Keith Favor to audit the medicaid system. So
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Speaker 5: favorite it has now ratcheting powers, and I expect that
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Speaker 5: he's going to be more able to do the job
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Speaker 5: he was elected to do. And I don't necessarily put
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Speaker 5: it at the feet of Keith Faber. I put it
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Speaker 5: at the feet of Governor Mike Dwine Wow.
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Speaker 1: And to the hip of sharing it, that's It seems
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Speaker 1: to be a nonsensical argument, because medical providers often share
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Speaker 1: a hip hop hip for qualified information with third parties.
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Speaker 1: They just enter into a confidentiality agreement where the third
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Speaker 1: parties have to follow the hipp A law within government.
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Speaker 1: That seems to me like he said something that will
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Speaker 1: be presumed.
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Speaker 5: Jack, Well, and and that's one and two. I want
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Speaker 5: you to think about how asinine it is. Right you
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Speaker 5: have a state auditor whose job it is to audit
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Speaker 5: uh state agencies, and you have a governor saying, well,
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Speaker 5: you can't audit this agency. I mean, it is the
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Speaker 5: definition of insanity.
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Speaker 1: But it's on my job description, says Keith Favor. I'm
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Speaker 1: supposed to let me be doing this. Jack Windsor will continue.
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Speaker 1: We'll get one more. We're gonna dive onto the area
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Speaker 1: of property tax is hot issue and one that I
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Speaker 1: think some of the elected officials are sweating about, given
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Speaker 1: that there may be a ball an issue to a
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Speaker 1: completely eradicate properly taxes and Ohio. Jack Windsor from the
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Speaker 1: Isio Press Network one more coming up.
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Speaker 7: Next fifty five KRC KRC the talk.
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Speaker 1: Station, AY fifty thank you Joe Strecker for the dead
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Speaker 1: Kennedy's awesome. Jack Windsor from the high Press netwhere we
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Speaker 1: call this appropriately themed bumper music. So Jack, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: move on over with Jack. Remember he is from the
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Speaker 1: focusing on Ohio and hopefully we'll go a different direction
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Speaker 1: with Vive Gramaswami as governor of the State of Ohio,
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Speaker 1: who will I am certain, use all the resources within
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Speaker 1: his power to crack down on fraud, waste, and abuse
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Speaker 1: there is a lot of in Ohio. But we also
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Speaker 1: are dealing with property taxes something else is a bit
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Speaker 1: of a sticky wicket. I know that the budget that
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Speaker 1: was passed well resulted in some line item vetos by
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Speaker 1: our favorite friend, Governor Mike Dwine, who thought he might
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Speaker 1: have had a better plan going on steam in the background.
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Speaker 1: So some efforts by our elected officials to give us
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Speaker 1: some relief and shot down, and then some were advanced
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Speaker 1: but really not quite adequate. Are we What are we
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Speaker 1: going to do? Because I guess the looming elephant in
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Speaker 1: the room is that idea that a ballot initiative might
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Speaker 1: eradicate property taxes, and they are ill equipped to deal
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Speaker 1: with the aftermath of that.
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Speaker 5: Jack Yeah, so let me can I sprint through what
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Speaker 5: was done real quick in the address? Okay? Awesome? So
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Speaker 5: I do want to point out that Governor DeWine did veto,
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Speaker 5: as you mentioned, for provisions in the biennial budget. But
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Speaker 5: what lawmakers figured out was if they took each of
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Speaker 5: those provisions, put him in separate bills, and got Democrats
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Speaker 5: to support him, then Diwine would actually sign them. And
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Speaker 5: that's exactly what happened. It was political theater that delayed
2:09:04
Speaker 5: taxpayer relief yet again, congratulations to Wine, but some bills
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Speaker 5: were signed at the end of twenty twenty five. House
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Speaker 5: Bill one twenty four is a foundational reform on how
2:09:14
Speaker 5: property values are assessed, and it modifies the sales assessment ratio.
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Speaker 5: One twenty six fundamentally shifts the burden invaluation challenges, so
2:09:25
Speaker 5: it basically says prove it instead of requiring the homeowner
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Speaker 5: to come and really the value of their home. So
2:09:32
Speaker 5: it flips the script there.
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Speaker 1: On that note Jack, real quick here, they have to
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Speaker 1: provide the comps that they use in determining your homes valuation.
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Speaker 1: That's right, that's wonderful. Okay, I like that.
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Speaker 5: It's great. Yeah it is, it's fantastic. Sorry to sprint
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Speaker 5: through that and I do.
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Speaker 1: No, it's okay.
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Speaker 5: There, I get Roland and I don't hear well, so
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Speaker 5: I apologize. House Bill one twenty nine addresses long standing
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Speaker 5: school funding by expanding the twenty mil floor to encompass
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Speaker 5: fixed some levees, emergency substance growth, and overall the adjustment
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Speaker 5: should lower the effective tax rate for homeowners. One eighty
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Speaker 5: six it might be the most impactful, which introduces the
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Speaker 5: inflation cap credit for school districts at the twenty mil floor,
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Speaker 5: limiting annual tax increases to the rate of inflation based
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Speaker 5: on the GDP deflator. And then there's House Bill three
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Speaker 5: oh nine that institutes a vital oversight by requiring county
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Speaker 5: auditors to annually review school district levies for over collections
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Speaker 5: in any revenue that exceeds voter approved amounts due to
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Speaker 5: value increases, and those excesses can be returned, which is huge.
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Speaker 5: And then House Built three thirty five caps revenue growth
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Speaker 5: from unvoted inside millaged and that's like, you know, German
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Speaker 5: to me, but it is a form of relief. But
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Speaker 5: here's the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room. I
2:10:49
Speaker 5: think that repealing property taxes or tearing down property taxes
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Speaker 5: in Ohio has a ton of momentum, and I think
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Speaker 5: that that's what we're going to have to talk about
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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six because the government. Actually, it's not
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Speaker 5: even going to be the state government. It's gonna be
2:11:04
Speaker 5: there are over sixty five hundred taxing authorities in the
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Speaker 5: Buckeye State. That should shock everybody. Yeah, but police stations,
2:11:11
Speaker 5: fire stations, schools are going to be like the mice
2:11:14
Speaker 5: and the cheese might get moved, Brian, and I think
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Speaker 5: that's the big conversation that we're going to talk about
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Speaker 5: in the year ahead.
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Speaker 1: How about that? Well, recognizing how federal government works, which
2:11:23
Speaker 1: is hurry up. Going back to one of your points
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Speaker 1: about returning over collection of school district taxes. I like
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Speaker 1: the idea, but the federal government, when their agencies see
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Speaker 1: that they've got a ton of pile of money they're
2:11:34
Speaker 1: sitting on toward the end of the year, they start
2:11:35
Speaker 1: throwing it out into the wind because if they don't
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Speaker 1: use it all, they're not going to get anymore. Who
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Speaker 1: in the hell what school district got there? Is ever
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Speaker 1: going to write a check to return unspent funds. Don't
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Speaker 1: you think this is going to result in them just
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Speaker 1: being rather liberal with their expenditures.
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Speaker 5: Potentially, But I think what we're going to see so
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Speaker 5: follow me on this. It's kind of complex. It hurts
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Speaker 5: my brain. Yes, however, that makes it income and upon
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Speaker 5: the citizens in that district to hold the district accountable
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Speaker 5: and to clamor. But secondly, State Representative Mike Devilla is
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Speaker 5: at it again. He's introducing a bill called the zero
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Speaker 5: based Budget, which would require because the states will likely
2:12:15
Speaker 5: take on more responsibility in funding schools, yes they will.
2:12:18
Speaker 5: So now if that happens, then they have to come
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Speaker 5: every ten years. And it's like peeling all the paint
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Speaker 5: off steel before you paint it again. You've got to
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Speaker 5: prove that you need this money. That's so I like that.
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Speaker 1: I love it too, because they sell us a bill
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Speaker 1: of goods. Locally, oh we need this. The whole place
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Speaker 1: is falling apart. But when you got people in Columbus
2:12:38
Speaker 1: who have no connection to your specific school district, they
2:12:41
Speaker 1: might look at it with a clearer set of eyes.
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Speaker 1: Jack wins or. So that's, you know what, positive news,
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Speaker 1: And I'm glad we're going in the right direction. And
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Speaker 1: I'm just waiting to see what else has done, because,
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Speaker 1: like you said, man, you know, if they glue, if
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Speaker 1: they take property taxes away, the whole place is like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, what are we going to do? Jack
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Speaker 1: went to find them online, go to the Ohio Press
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Speaker 1: network dot com. Excellent reporting there. Get a subscription, Jack.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to have you back on the fifty
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Speaker 1: five Cares Sing Morning Jope. You have a wonderful weekend.
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Speaker 5: It's an honor. Thank you, Brian, and thank you Joe.
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Speaker 5: God bless you have a great weekend.
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Speaker 1: And you sir. Eight fifty six earlier on the program,