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110: Welcome to Plathville (S5E14) / 90 Day Fiancé (S10E9) · Reality TV Cringe

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  love to hear from you. Yeah, it's a who called. This is
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  from Erica and I believe it's about plath Film. Okay, hi ladies,
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  new listener here. I found your podcast while looking to commiserate with somebody on
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  this season of Welcome to Plathville. So thanks for reviewing this show. I
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  was watching the latest episode with my husband and pointed something out that he didn't
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  seem to see, so wondering what your take is on it. Barry is
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  in LA with the boys, and Kim is being asked to move in with
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  her boyfriend, and then we have the little girls here with Lydia and she's
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  sang. Everyone else is on vacation, so I decided I'll just take I'm
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  on a road trip. But the road trip is to a recording studio,
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  and I'm just not so sure that this wasn't something that has been planned and
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  it was interrupted because her parents just decided they're going to do their thing and
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  we'll just parentify her even more. Just your thoughts on that. Feeling pretty
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  bad for her in this point, her parents are living their own lives and
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  leaving her to care for these little girls, despite any plan she may have.
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  What are your thoughts or am I overthinking this? Thanks? You go
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  first, because I called you today and I screamed about this. I know.
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  I think Lydia's like the forgotten child, like they really just don't care,
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  and they think that she's so well rounded and mature and can handle things
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  on her own, even though she's only eighteen nineteen at this point, and
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  so yeah, I think they totally just leave her in the dust, and
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  they're like, we're going to go party and do our own being, have
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  fun taking care of the little girl. Because you're old enough to do that,
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  it's fine. Yeah, I think she's the logan of the Plath family.
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  And in this episode, you know, the Barry is still gone,
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  and so Lydia, I guess, is back from Nashville and she's taking care
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  of the girls and she's talking about Jesus a lot. She's up in her
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  closet. But I just felt really bad for her because I think she wants
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  to have her own life. Yeah, obviously we learn that she has a
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  boyfriend, which is awesome, but like she wants to get out and live
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  her life. And Barry, I mean, I understand that you're doing better,
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  that you're stepping up, but like, you can't just be dumping your
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  kids on the one kid who's been parentified this entire time. I feel bad
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  for her. I know I feel bad for her too, and she's just
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  smiling her way through it and praying her way through it, like it's not
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  that big of a deal. But I feel like it'll come out later in
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  her adult life, especially when she starts being a mom of her own and
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  realizes like, damn, I've been doing this since I was like ten,
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  yeah, and having to take care of everybody else, But who's taking care
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  of me? Right? We do know though, that this past summer she
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  was traveling in some kind of a mission group going all across the country,
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  so presumably she was able to break away from the plaid family home and start
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  doing her own thing. But yeah, what we're watching right now, I
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  think is unfair, and I'm just like, it just makes me more mad
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  at Kim because Kim. While Barry is in Los Angeles or in California,
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  Kim is down in Crawfordsville, Florida having an adulteroust affair with Ken Palmer,
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  and Lydia is the one that's stepping up. I know. It's really gross.
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  It's really freaking gross, and Kim acting like, well, it's my
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  chance to be happy. It's like, okay, what about your kids?
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  You have three minor children, actually have four minor children, because Isaac is
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  still a minor. It's not fair, right, totally totally agree, Yes,
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  thank your husband. Yeah, I can't believe there's a husband watching it.
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  My husband won't watch it. He'll just see it and walk right through
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  the roo music. I'm not watching these people. They're so boring. I'm
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  like, they're not boring, They're fascinating, the absolutely fascinating. All right,
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  let's get into the season finale of Walk to Platfill, which is season
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  five, episode fourteen, entitled to be or not to Be? That is
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  the question, okay, And the primary things that I wanted to get into,
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  of course, was the conversation between Ethan and Mariah, the final moving
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  out, breakup of Kim and Barry, yeah, and the breakup of Ethan
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  and Olivia. And you had said to me last night when you watched it
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  because I didn't want it to today, that you have some controversial opinions.
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  Yeah, and I'm thinking, well, that's interesting. Yeah, I don't
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  know if they're going to be that controversial. We end up usually being on
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  the same page. Yeah, we'll see. I'll have you tell me your
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  opinions first and then we'll see if you agree. Okay, Well, before
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  we get into it, what are like some of or like one of your
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  major takeaways from the show. I mean, I'm liking Barry more and more
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  every episode. I like the way that he carries himself with the whole like
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  division of everything with Kim, like he's just being Hella chill, even though
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  Kim and her talking heads is like trying to throw him under the bus and
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  act like he's the one that's controlling their finances and controlling the divvying up of
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  everything that they owned, when she's just being a selfish bitch like the entire
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  time. So I'm really liking Barry. I think he's like made a huge
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  turn around from season one season two, and I think he's like really grown
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  up and is focusing on his relationships with his kids, even though he's like
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  leaving Lydia in the dust and just like letting her parent the rest of his
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  kids. But we do see him during the season taking them down to Florida
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  doing things with them, so I do think he is stepping up. And
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  when he was talking about how so many people in the world have never heard
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  their father say I love you, and he just that's all he wants his
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  children to understand is that he loves them, I was just like, I'm
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  getting tearball, I know, I'm getting back. I love that as well.
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  My major takeaway is actually a question, and it's a question that I
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  have for you. Oh no, and that question is when was the last
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  time you cooked a meal? I like to bitch. I couldn't believe that.
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  I was pissed off by Ethan saying that. Interesting. I was pissed
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  off by Ethan saying that. That triggered me. And if anything out of
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  his mouth would have turned me turned my boat in a different direction, it
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  would be some misogynistic bullshit like that, because I think they have such bigger
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  issues than who's cooking what meal. And by the way, we saw Olivia
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  cooking a meal just a couple of episodes ago. She was cooking some weird
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  mushroom breakfast omelet thing, but like it was just so insulting and to me,
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  reducing their relation down to these gender roles. And I was like,
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  oh God, because I think he has valid points. Don't get me wrong,
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  I think she does. But like him saying when was the last time
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  you cooked a meal? I was like, somebody get me my nun chucks
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  and my brass knuckles and let's go to Victoria, Minnesota. That's where I
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  was left with that, And I guess that's where it's going to be.
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  It's gonna be controversial. I love it when we disagree. Okay, so
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  let's get into the episode. You right, Okay, let's do it.
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  Okay. We start this episode in California. If you recall last week,
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  Ethan and Mariah sat down on their respective benches to have a conversation about what
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  went wrong in their relationships. So what was some of your thoughts about this
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  scene. Well, I don't really know who to believe in terms of the
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  whole like music debacle, because Mariah was talking to Ethan about it, and
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  she does apologize in this segment for overreacting for the music thing. But Ethan
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  brings up that actually, before they left for Europe, there was a moment
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  where Mariah and Olivia sat in the kitchen on her laptop, Olivia's laptop,
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  and Olivia's like, this is the password, this is how you log into
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  your shit, and Mariah allegedly says, oh, thanks, now I can
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  access it while you're gone. But Mariah's denying it in the moment and saying,
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  I don't recall that. I can promise you that never happened like I
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  would have remembered that. She says, I can promise you that never happened
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  on the couch. She doesn't say it in the moment, No, she
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  doesn't, but she says, I don't recall, and that didn't happen,
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  right, And so I just don't know who to believe. I believe Ethan.
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  I don't know. I was so specific, Yeah, And I mean,
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  like, why would he lie about it? I mean, I guess
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  his motivation to, I guess lie about it if he is lying, is
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  to protect Olivia. But I don't think he is lying. It's just it
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  rubbed me the wrong way when Ethan was like, no, Mariah, you
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  had problems with your mom before Olivia came to the picture, it wasn't all
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  Olivia. When Mariah's literally trying to communicate to him that the problems with between
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  Mariah and the family were exacerbated by Olivia, and he's not seeing that.
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  He's not seeing that Olivia influenced it. So that's where I'm kind of like,
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  oh, I don't know, and I believe he's not doing that.
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  I feel like he's seeing that Olivia influenced it. His main problem is that
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  Mariah is acting like it's solely Olivia's fault, but she's not, of course,
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  And Mariah is like, actually, I blame myself more than I blame
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  Olivia. But when I was watching that, when he was being so specific
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  about what happened before they went on their Europe trip, my gut told me
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  that he was telling the truth. And I think it probably happened, and
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  Mariah wasn't paying attention because up until that point she had her whole existence facilitated
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  for her by Olivia and Ethan, And so why do I have to pay
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  attention? Right, Like, why shouldn't I be writing it down or putting
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  it in. I don't have to do that. It's going to be fine,
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  like lazy, lazy, lazy, which is in keeping with her maybe
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  not paying her bills, not paying the rent on time. I don't know
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  these other complaints that Ethan also has. So I thoroughly believe that she was
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  given the information, she didn't remember it, and then ultimately she threatened some
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  kind of legal action because she didn't know how to get to her own music.
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  Yeah, because she overreacted, and she does acknowledge that, and so
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  at least she took ownership over that. But I think the whole like overarching
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  theme of the conversation, which was that Mariah was saying, like, look,
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  has kind of pulled you away from the family. She's kind of like
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  talked about the family the entire time that you guys have been married, and
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  she influenced my relationship with the family, and I don't think that that's right,
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  and like, I'll be civil with her if it means I can have
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  a relationship with you. Like that was all kind of shadowed under this stupid
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  music storyline. Yes, And I'm kind of annoyed that it was still like
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  dragged onto the very nast episode because I just thought it was like so lame
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  and dumb. And I'm also annoyed that they didn't get into the credit card
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  situation with details and with facts, because that's kind of one of the primary
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  problems, Yeah, is that the siblings made a social media post calling out
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  Olivia for lying about Kim and the credit card, and so if somebody had
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  just taken us through it, which Olivia ultimately did, I think on TikTok,
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  she told her side of the story, like, but nobody on that
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  side of the family is taking the time to do it, and we should
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  have been having that conversation and also we should have been talking about Kim getting
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  a DWI by the time they're filming this for real, agreed, and like
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  fucking getting into a crash almost killing herself, Like why aren't we talking about
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  that? That's the kind of stuff that makes me really angry about all of
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  this. We also see Ethan apologizing to Mariah, like, I shouldn't have
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  let you and Micah into my marital issues and problems, which I found interesting,
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  Yeah, because I wonder if Ethan had been running back to Mariah and
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  Micah and telling his version of events about Olivia and contributing to them turning against
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  Olivia just because he was bitchin about it, Yeah, which is something I
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  mean, I think you should really never do, right. You should never
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  involve like your family with the problems in your marriage if you can help it.
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  Right. So he apologized for that, yeah, and that was good,
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  And I mean he apologized for even putting them in that situation because it
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  puts them in a rock and a hard place of like choosing between Olivia and
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  their brother, and obviously their allegiance is going to be to their brother.
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  It's like we talked about it a couple episodes ago. About how like if
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  it was okay for Ethan to be talking about his marriage with Micah at the
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  bar, but I wonder if that was what he was meaning, Like I'm
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  sorry for like bringing Micah to the bar and like talking about it, or
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  like maybe mentioning a few things to Mariah, but like not really getting into
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  all the details. I can't see. Or maybe he did, maybe,
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  but I don't know. He just doesn't know how to fucking communicate though,
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  right, I don't know. I thought that was very interesting. Mariah ultimately
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  says something like I just want you to be free, you know, I
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  don't want you to be unhappy. And this is where Ethan says something like,
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  well, you just don't understand what it's like to have like this beautiful
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  marriage that's just starting out. You guys have all of this good energy,
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  this hope, and this optimism, and then it gets taken away. And
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  I was trying to interpret here, it sounds like it gets taken away by
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  Olivia, who becomes fixated on Kim and the problem that she's having with Kim
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  and or the rest of the family. And so as soon as Olivia becomes
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  fixated because she's just substituted one family life for another family life that resembles it
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  in a great deal, then his happy future is gone. And she's basically
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  saying, right, you don't know what that feels like that fucking sucks,
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  yeah, And I mean in her talking head, she's like, it must
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  be really painful for him. But she doesn't say anything really in the moment,
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  which is kind of like a missed opportunity in my opinion, like she
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  could have offered him some real comfort and genuine compassion, because yeah, it's
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  really hard, And he says, you don't know what it's like to lose
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  something so precious to you, Like he has never once like talked bad about
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  Olivia on TV. He's never said anything bad about her like or disparage their
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  marriage in any way. Like he's sad that they are breaking up because of
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  all of the shit that they can't work out anything, and obviously because he
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  wants her to be a tad wife and she won't want she doesn't want to
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  be one. So I feel bad for him in this moment because I do
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  think he's genuinely upset at the at their marriage ending because of all the scrap,
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  because they couldn't overcome any of the family. I do as well.
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  But I'm just wondering what changed, because we saw, like in the first
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  third of this season him bugging Olivia about having kids, right, so that
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  was just a few months ago, Like what suddenly changed so drastically, Like
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  did she register as a Democrat or something? Did she attend an lgbtq A
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  rally or something like, I don't understand what took you from I want to
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  have children right now? Can we do it to I can't have kids with
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  you. People are saying online it's like about the patriotism aspect, like he
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  doesn't want Olivia teaching his kids. I don't know if this is true or
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  not. This is all legit and from people on Reddit, so take it
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  with a grain of salt. But people are saying that it's because Olivia would
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  teach their kids to hate America and be anti the government and all this stuff,
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  and so that's like his end all be all. But I'm like,
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  I don't know. I think it's like faith based and them having something in
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  common. I think they're so drastically different at this point, and he's like,
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  I just want to like have similar values when we raise kids. Is
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  that so hard to have and she wants that too. I mean, she
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  wants him to like think the same things as her too and like be open.
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  Well she's I don't know if she does. I know what she says.
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  She says that she's been thinking for years when they're sitting down on the
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  couch about how like they can have their different perspectives, their different points of
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  view, but like as long as they respect one another, they can.
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  She sees a world where they can raise a child respectfully with like maybe all
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  of the views and the child can choose. So I don't know if that's
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  true or not. I just I don't see any evidence that it could be
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  about patriotism, because Olivia has done nothing that's unpatriotic or hateful toward America.
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  Right. The only thing she's to me, it feels about like homophobia.
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  Maybe to me, it feels like it's about gay people. It's about this
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  type of an issue, and Ethan is just a hard pass. He's just
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  got a boundary around it, and he's not going to want his kids to
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  grow up in an environment where that's accepted. And I wish they would just
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  say the quiet part out loud, like is that the issue, And I
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  wonder if Olivia is going to come out over time and say whether that is.
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  You know, she's going to write a book and she's going to trash
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  this mofo and this whole entire family for all it's worth, and she's gonna
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  make a lot of money from it. I also wonder if it's a Trump
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  thing, maybe Trump versus b don't I don't really know. They don't say
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  it, but so we're left to just kind of guess. To kind of
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  wrap up the conversation between Mariah and Ethan, Ethan's like, you don't understand,
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  though, what it's like to be in a marriage, because he doesn't
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  say all this. I'm obviously editorializing, But you're a kid. Yeah,
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  you haven't been in a relationship like this at all, and you don't stay
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  with your family. You cleave to your wife or to your husband, and
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  you put them first. That's actually what the Bible says, and that is
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  what I am doing in this relationship. And you wouldn't know that though,
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  because you've never had a relationship like that. So how about check back in
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  with me when you're a full grown adult and you have some prospective Thanks.
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  I did love that that was so based honestly, because it's true, like
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  when you marry your spouse, like that should be your priority as opposed to
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  everything else. Right, And he proved that this whole entire series. He
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  went no contact with his family, He almost beat up his dad or Olivia
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  and all these things, and yet it was never enough for her. No,
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  it wasn't enough for her. But like Mariah saying something like, wow,
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  I know that when I get married, I'm going to make sure that
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  I honor my husband's family and that he honors my family, I'm like,
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  Okay, talk to me when you get there. Though, Yeah, shit
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  happens. Life happens, right, People are different, and drama ensues,
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  right, and when it does, you're supposed to take up for your spouse
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  first and foremost well. And yet the difference here with Olivia always has been
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  is like she didn't have to get along with Ethan's family at all, Like
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  she shouldn't have been expected to like have this beautiful, amazing relationship with Kim
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  or any of the kids or anything like that. But she shouldn't have just
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  like not advocated for everybody else to have a relationship with them. That's what
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  Mariah's kind of getting at but she also sucks at communicating because she's twelve years
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  old and and she's a blast, right, so nobody can actually communicate properly
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  what they're actually feeling. That's the problem is that Olivia never supported the older
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  kids Ethan having a good relationship with their family, right, because she saw
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  the Plaths as solely evil and terrible and awful to be around, and so
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  therefore nobody should have a relationship. Mariah actually says she never said one nice
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  thing about the family, right, and I believe it. I do too,
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  And and Ethan didn't argue with her because Ethan knows that's true. Yep.
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  So in the next segment, we go back to Caro, and this
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  is where we're visiting with Lydia. She's in her prayer clauset, looking at
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  all of her scribbled prayers to Jesus. THEO I honestly thought was her boyfriend,
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  but I guess I was wrong. I guess it's the actual real boy
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  I know. And she's taken care of the three younger girls. I don't
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  know where Isaac is. He's off fly in his plane. But this is
• 20:42
  where we learn that Lydia has got a man. I know she got her
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  a man. And we saw a picture of him from behind. He's a
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  very tall man. I was like, is that Max? It's not I
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  kind of looks like it, right. She seems really happy. She's pretty
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  private about it. She says that the family likes him. He's the sweetest
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  boy every man. He's a man of God. Do you mean a boy
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  of God? Do you mean zygoat of God? Do you mean feetus of
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  God? Like? Have you kissed? Have you hold hand? They're not
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  fucking? Do you think they're dry humping? Maybe I just learned or Thanksgiving
• 21:19
  what soaking was? What's soaking? I guess soaking is what the Mormons do
• 21:25
  when some like evangelical Christians. Now see I'm wondering if I get it wrong
• 21:29
  now, but apparently you just stick your peepee inside the girl and you soak.
• 21:34
  What do you mean, like you just you just basking the liquid of
• 21:38
  it all? You so you don't gyrate or anything, Well you're not supposed
• 21:42
  to. It's kind of like a different version of just the tip or like
• 21:45
  edging or whatever. Yeah, it's just like, here's my dick up in
• 21:48
  your pounana and I'm just gonna soak here and we're just gonna feel it like
• 21:52
  that, and so you're not supposed to move, and it's so dumb because
• 21:55
  you think you're not gonna get pregnant. That's not how that works. But
• 21:59
  it's amana called soaking. And please, if you're watching on YouTube in the
• 22:03
  comments if I have this wrong because I'm a boomer, which I'm not,
• 22:06
  but if I'm a boomer, tell us what soaking is. Oh, but
• 22:10
  I'm just wondering as Lydia's soaking with her boy with her. She's too much
• 22:14
  of a good Christian girl to do that well. But like we were talking
• 22:18
  to my nephew, like grew up in the Evangelical church, and he was
• 22:22
  just like, strictly butt sex because that's Jesus likes that better. And we
• 22:26
  had to educate him on that on you can get aids from that. He's
• 22:30
  like, oh, I thought only cake could get get all kinds of different
• 22:33
  things from then. The only gig guys may help meet people need an education
• 22:37
  in God. And so Lydia is so happy. And maybe if there's another
• 22:41
  season of plaithfill which we can discuss maybe towards the end, whether we think
• 22:45
  there will be maybe we can actually meet her new boyfriend. Yeah, that
• 22:49
  would be cool. I love that. After that, we head on back
• 22:53
  to California. It's the last day of their little vacation. They do a
• 22:57
  sunset hike. Ethan and Mariah are speaking again and they go scale some sort
• 23:03
  of a hill and Barry just thinks to himself that this is great. It's
• 23:10
  symbolic of how relationships can be healed. You can talk through things with people
• 23:15
  that you love and it can get better. And he's really really happy that
• 23:18
  they're all together. Yeah. I thought that was really sweet and wholesome.
• 23:21
  It seemed like a good trip, and I'm glad that Ethan came and had
• 23:25
  time with his family away from Olivia. Yeah, it was really good.
• 23:27
  I thought so too. Yeah. Then we get to the Division of Assets,
• 23:33
  Honey. In the nexter scene, we have Barry back home. He's
• 23:37
  going through some pictures because Kim's about to come over and she's going to take
• 23:42
  some things, and he's trying to select some pictures for himself and pack some
• 23:47
  things up for her. So what did you think about this? I thought
• 23:51
  it was kind of wholesome, like he's just going through family photos and like
• 23:55
  just cherishing all of the memories. And I thought that was really sweet because
• 23:57
  I think about, like my parents did this and they didn't want to look
• 24:02
  at any photos at all, Like they didn't want to look at their wedding
• 24:03
  photos, they didn't want to look at photos of each other in them,
• 24:07
  and like when they divided photos and everything up, like my dad was like,
• 24:11
  I don't want any photos of your mom and my mom the same way
• 24:14
  with my dad. I'm like, that's so weird. It is weird.
• 24:15
  Like I'm glad that Barry can at least look at it all and be like,
• 24:18
  this was a beautiful marriage, like and Kim says it in her talking
• 24:22
  head too, like out of twenty five years of marriage, like the best
• 24:26
  things that came out of it were all of their children that they had.
• 24:29
  And I'm glad that they both can acknowledge that and they're acting civil. I
• 24:33
  wonder if there is gonna be another season of Platfell, if we're gonna get
• 24:37
  into more drama between Kim and Barry. Yeah, it's a little bit telegraphed
• 24:41
  when Barry talks about knowing that he's gonna have to be in the same room
• 24:45
  with Ken Palmer at some point in the future and he's just gonna have to
• 24:48
  learn how to act and he's doing it for the kids. But I'm like,
• 24:51
  ooh, I hope so yeah that goes yeah, because I honestly don't
• 24:55
  think Kim Palmer wants to step tennis. Yeah, I do not think.
• 24:59
  So. I also learned that the visitation has kind of switched up. Whereas
• 25:03
  Kim was getting the girls from Wednesday to Sunday and then Barry from Sunday to
• 25:07
  Wednesday, now the girls are going one week with Kim, one week with
• 25:11
  Barry. And I think it was Mercy the little one, who was saying,
• 25:15
  I like that better because that means I get to be home more and
• 25:18
  see my dad more. Yeah. I'm like, oh shit, they're favoring
• 25:22
  their dad over Kim. Oh yeah, which is good. I love that.
• 25:26
  And we already know she's made up her mind to move in with Ken,
• 25:29
  and we already know she's probably living with him right now at the time
• 25:32
  of this filming. And so imagine the girls having to go down to Crawfordsville,
• 25:37
  Florida and spend their fifty to fifty time with Ken Palmer and Kim making
• 25:41
  out in the kitchen as they make steak in a s bargas and drink their
• 25:47
  boots in her mini skirts. Did you notice when she came yes in that
• 25:52
  mini skirt and no bra? No bra? Girl? Was she sending a
• 25:55
  message to Barry? What kind of message would that be? Like you remiss
• 25:57
  this cause no, I don't. I think having some support is actually way
• 26:03
  more sexy than just flopping on out there. Jesus, Mary and Joseph,
• 26:07
  don't body shame. I'm not trying to body shame. I'm just like support.
• 26:11
  Your girls got big girls. I got big girls too. They need
• 26:12
  to be in some kind of a bra. They need infrastructure. I don't
• 26:17
  know is she being sexy girl? Because I wasn't getting sexy? No,
• 26:21
  I was getting I need you to put a jacket, That's what I need
• 26:23
  you to do. Then we also have the information from Kim that Barry does
• 26:33
  not want Kim to live in that house and Barry wants to sell that house,
• 26:38
  and Kim's like, because with Barry it's all about the almighty dollar girl,
• 26:44
  So he doesn't want me to live here. Okay, but you're gonna
• 26:48
  split the proceeds though, right, and you probably have like at least one
• 26:52
  of those rental properties, and you have the whole ass ballet studio that you
• 26:55
  made him buy you right with the apartment, so grimey a river. Yeah,
• 27:00
  and then she's like, well, but you know, when I think
• 27:02
  about it, there's a lot of negative things that have happened here, and
• 27:06
  so it's okay to leave it. Yeah, okay, like you cheating on
• 27:08
  your house yet. But she wanted it, Yeah, she wants she wants
• 27:11
  everything. Of course, I'm really curious to see what their divorce settlement looks
• 27:15
  like. Apparently by the time she shows up here, they've already pretty much
• 27:19
  agreed on everything, so she's here to pick stuff up. But I'm like,
• 27:22
  is she getting alimony? Does she get child support? Because it's fifty
• 27:26
  to fifty so why should she get it and not him? Right? Is
• 27:30
  it just a division of their property and their things, or like, is
• 27:33
  she going to get some maintenance going forward because she was she was his wife
• 27:37
  for twenty five years. She didn't work, yeah, and he gave her
• 27:41
  a lifestyle to which she became accustomed he did. Is he going to agree
• 27:45
  to pay her alimony for ten years? Oh my gosh? And child support
• 27:48
  on top of that because you know she's going to want him to pay child
• 27:52
  support for the three littles. Yeah, but if it's fifty to fifty,
• 27:55
  like she's not supposed to get any right, I don't know how it works.
• 27:56
  I think you can still get it really, yeah, Okay, well,
• 28:00
  I don't know. It depends on the state laws. I really want
• 28:03
  to know. And as far as I know, I know they're saying like
• 28:04
  the divorce hasn't been finalized yet, but like I haven't seen anything anywhere about
• 28:11
  it, So I'm like, I don't know what's really going on. Okay,
• 28:15
  And then we get to this Linel train set, right, So Kim
• 28:18
  talks about how she wants that train set and Barry's like thinking of a different
• 28:22
  train set, and he's like, no, that was the trainset that my
• 28:26
  parents gave us, and I thought it was funny. How Isaac's like,
• 28:30
  yeah, mom, you're wrong. Quickly, I'm like, quickly came to
• 28:33
  Barry's defense and he was wrong. Oh, he was wrong, and he
• 28:37
  admitted to it eventually after he realized, oh, yeah, we have two
• 28:40
  train sets. So here's the boofy one that Bill gave you, and then
• 28:44
  I'll take the one that my parents got. But you did see Kim back
• 28:47
  down. Kim even says to the camera, like, I know the moment,
• 28:51
  Barry is shutting down and he's getting stubborn, and I know that it's
• 28:55
  not going to do me any good to argue with him, and so he'll
• 28:57
  go and look on his own and figure it out for himself. Sounds like
• 29:02
  Ethan Plath probably, yeah, just shutting down, Yeah, and he's getting
• 29:04
  upset. She also says later in this particular scene that she's seen a new
• 29:10
  side of Barry since the divorce, and maybe if he'd been more emotionally tuned
• 29:15
  when they were married, they wouldn't be on this path. And I'm like
• 29:18
  to myself saying, self, if my spouse was an adulteress, Oh,
• 29:25
  you'd be seeing a different side of me too, one that has nunchucks,
• 29:29
  brass knuckles and a gun. Yeah, that's a side you'd be seeing of
• 29:33
  me for real. So I mean, what do you expect? Do you
• 29:37
  expect him to just be super accommodating to your bullshit and your adult rate.
• 29:41
  I think she wanted him to be mad. I think she wanted him to
• 29:45
  like fight for her, Like maybe she had some weird complex, like maybe
• 29:48
  if he fights for me and gets mad and that means that he truly loved
• 29:52
  me or something. I don't know, like, And granted, I understand
• 29:56
  maybe her bitterness towards seeing him chain into the man that she wanted him to
• 30:02
  be during their marriage, because she did allegedly tell him for twenty five years
• 30:07
  that she wanted him to be different and he didn't. And he admits to
• 30:10
  this. He admitted to it, like a couple episodes ago, about how
• 30:12
  he could have been better and he could have been more attentive to her needs
• 30:15
  but it's too late now and so whatever. But I'm like, Kim,
• 30:19
  why are you saying this shit? And then the producers, Yeah, ask
• 30:23
  Barry this question, which I was not expecting. They ask him. So
• 30:27
  if Kim, you know, comes around on like a year or whatever and
• 30:32
  is like, hey, I made a mistake. Is the door still open?
• 30:34
  And Barry says, I can't answer that right now? What does that
• 30:38
  mean? He doesn't want to answer it, don't I don't know, Like
• 30:45
  I think sometimes the producers catch him off guard, like when they asked,
• 30:48
  have you met Ken and he's like, no comment, Yeah, but I
• 30:52
  mean I think we can speculate. I don't think he would take her back,
• 30:56
  No way. I don't think it's going to be that long before he
• 31:00
  he gets a date. He goes out and meets a woman, and he
• 31:03
  starts seeing how good it can get out there in those raccoon streets. Yes,
• 31:06
  I would love that, without being anchored down by an adulterous hope who's
• 31:11
  super self absorbed and delegates all of her duties to lydia plath. Yes,
• 31:15
  and eats a lot of sugar, and eats a lot of sugar, and
• 31:18
  also flips her car because she's driving drunk. I've got no grace or compassion
• 31:23
  for people who drive drunk. I just don't. There's no excuse for it.
• 31:26
  And so came, you're a piece of shit on its face. Yep,
• 31:30
  that's what I believe. Agreed, Okay, And so then they start
• 31:33
  loading up the trailer. Little Isaac, Oh my god, he's just walking
• 31:37
  around like cowboys. He's got his wranglers on and he's got his ariot cowboy
• 31:42
  boots. I'm imagining he's got his hat on. I'm just like, look
• 31:45
  at this young man, I know, so handsome. He's so handsome,
• 31:49
  and he's like I'm gonna go to college. I'm gonna get my four year
• 31:52
  degree and then I'm gonna become a pilot. I'm like, yes, King,
• 31:56
  Yes, And I see him doing it. Actually, I see him
• 31:59
  being very a comp But when he said I will be the first in our
• 32:01
  family to go to college, I'm like, didn't Barry get a degree?
• 32:06
  Did he? I know he went to university, that's where he met Kim.
• 32:09
  Right, I don't know if it, did he finish it or whatever,
• 32:12
  or maybe he didn't get a four year degree. Maybe he didn't get
• 32:14
  a four year degree, or maybe he didn't graduate, which is a surprise
• 32:16
  to me, Like, how are you owning all of this property? What
• 32:20
  is the secret to your Wow? I know how much money is he making
• 32:23
  as a transportation analyst or whatever his stupid job is? I have no I
• 32:30
  So they pack up Kim and she leaves. Yeah, and that's it.
• 32:35
  That's all. She wrote that his family is destroyed. You feel good,
• 32:37
  Kim, Just what you want is sad. Yeah. When they were dividing
• 32:43
  up everything and it got down to Kim and the baby pictures, and she
• 32:47
  was like can I take all these? And Berry's like yeah, but can
• 32:51
  I get copies. She's like, oh, well, you can cut out
• 32:52
  my face of them, and he's like, no, it's a package deal.
• 32:55
  This is my life in history. I find cut you out me too.
• 32:59
  Her. I think he really did loved the fact that she had all
• 33:02
  of these babies for him and they created such a beautiful family of all these
• 33:07
  real well rounded kids, even though they had no education, right because they
• 33:10
  were taught by a drunk mom. Right. But it's just like, I
• 33:14
  don't know, I really loved how Barry was like so mature and just like
• 33:17
  besides the trainset thing, which was just like a genuine misunderstanding, I thought
• 33:22
  it was really great. Kim was expecting like drama. I think I think
• 33:25
  so too, And I actually think Kim did love him, yeah, in
• 33:32
  the way that she could, in the way that a narcissist can. But
• 33:36
  when you keep in mind that it was Kim that was shopping this show to
• 33:39
  different networks. It was Kim who and Olivia was helping her. It was
• 33:45
  Kim who wanted the fame. Like as soon as she got a little bit
• 33:50
  of it, she bounced. Yep, she left. She pieced out for
• 33:52
  kN fucking Palmer. Of all the people I'm like, really, I would
• 33:55
  have gone on like a fitness journey. I mean per and I got a
• 34:00
  fitness journey. I would have gotten super fly, super hot, and then
• 34:04
  I would have put myself out first of all, I would have gotten a
• 34:06
  divorce first. Yeah, okay, and then I would have started dating around.
• 34:08
  Yes. I would also be going to therapy, probably therapizing for a
• 34:12
  couple of years before I even thought about dating anybody. But that's just me.
• 34:15
  I'm not just going to start running out there and banging Ken Palmer.
• 34:19
  Yeah, because you're not an adulterous home my god, honey, Okay this
• 34:24
  we are now at the final scene, yeah, with Ethan and Olivia.
• 34:30
  So he returns from California. This is the first time that they have sat
• 34:35
  down since they talked the last time, and she said, yeah, I
• 34:37
  know you're still talking, but maybe get a therapist because I don't want to
• 34:39
  listen to your ass. So they're sitting down on the couch and they're talking
• 34:45
  about their relationships. So what are some of your thoughts about this. I've
• 34:47
  got a lot of notes, a lot of I think poignant things that were
• 34:51
  signed like first and say it no no know what is tell me, okay.
• 34:53
  Well, the producer asks, like where they stand, and Olivia starts
• 35:00
  us off by saying, well, you know, in my vision for marriage,
• 35:05
  it always is going to lead to having a family. But as I've
• 35:08
  been thinking about having a family with Ethan, that made me face things that
• 35:15
  maybe I didn't want to look at before and just be honest about them.
• 35:17
  Yeah. Ethan says something like, well, honest about what, and Olivia
• 35:22
  says, the way that you've treated me mm hmm, the deception, the
• 35:25
  lack of communication. This is actually led to us separating before, Yeah,
• 35:30
  and it's still happening in our relationship, and so I have to face that,
• 35:35
  yeah, which I thought was interesting because on like a couple episodes ago,
• 35:37
  you were just talking about how you wanted to have kids with him,
• 35:40
  and now you're saying it's because of how he was treating you. And I
• 35:45
  don't know, like maybe he was treating her differently behind the camera. We
• 35:47
  don't know. I don't know these people in their personal lives. I don't
• 35:51
  know how Ethan is off camera and how he really talks to a stone cold
• 35:54
  and noncommunicative and non emotional. Well, but it's no because in season one
• 35:59
  and season he was like doing a lot of things for her and he has
• 36:02
  a five I think that's where he's at right now. Yeah, because they've
• 36:06
  already separated once and because Olivia kind of belittles him every time he tries to
• 36:10
  do anything for her that she asks him to do, and then it's never
• 36:13
  good enough. I mean, I guess, I mean you have to we
• 36:17
  have to acknowledge that Ethan is a broken person, yes, who doesn't know
• 36:21
  how to communicate, and when he gets mad, he just shuts down and
• 36:24
  there's no access to him. So she's probably I can see a world where
• 36:29
  she wants to fix it. She just wants to talk it through, and
• 36:30
  he's like, I'm sick of talking, which is why doesn't even want to
• 36:32
  talk to Mariah. He doesn't want to talk anymore in his life because Olivia
• 36:37
  has talked so much to him. But at the same time, that's what
• 36:39
  marriage is. You show up anyway. If the other person needs some space
• 36:43
  from you, you've got to give it to them, and he hasn't done
• 36:45
  it for her, escalating therefore the problem that they have now, I'm the
• 36:52
  last person to root for Olivia, but I just when he then said something
• 36:58
  along the lines of you know what you could do to fix this is you
• 37:01
  could reconnect with your family. Yeah, and make things right with your family,
• 37:07
  which, by the way, Olivia considers her family to be it sounds
• 37:09
  like abusive, at least religiously abusive. So you could reconnect with your family,
• 37:15
  get back to your core values, and be a trad wife like you
• 37:19
  said you were going to be when I married you four or five years ago.
• 37:22
  And this is where we get Olivia saying, listen, you want me
• 37:25
  to go back to a culture that is geared toward serving men. It's a
• 37:30
  patriarchal culture. And so you have a lot of privilege and a lot of
• 37:35
  audacity to tell me to go back to something that's gonna serve you. But
• 37:38
  is it gonna serve me? No, it's not gonna serve me because my
• 37:40
  biggest dream is to be some man's wife. Well what if I have bigger
• 37:45
  dreams than that? Right, And she has every right to feel that way,
• 37:49
  And I'm not like ever gonna say, oh, yeah, you should
• 37:51
  go back to a patriarchal, bullshit religious structure that was abusive and terrible to
• 37:54
  you and super toxic. So I totally agree with Olivia on that, because
• 37:59
  again, she has every right to be an independent woman and like live the
• 38:02
  way that she wants to live, and if Ethan can't adjust to that,
• 38:06
  then you know, so be it. That is what it is. But
• 38:09
  I do think that there was a little bit of truth with Ethan saying to
• 38:13
  her, like, I think the root of a lot of your problems is
• 38:15
  the issues and the relationships with your family. I do think that there was
• 38:19
  truth to that. She kind of spun it into the whole religious doctrine stuff
• 38:22
  because that's the filter that she's seeing everything from. And again that's fine,
• 38:27
  Like it's she's on her own journey. I can't tell her what to think
• 38:30
  or believe, but I do think that she has a hole in her heart
• 38:32
  that can't be fixed or can't be filled by anybody unless she learns how to
• 38:37
  deal with the lack that she feels with not having a relationship with her family,
• 38:43
  and like the loss that she feels but of not being able to talk
• 38:46
  with her parents and like have a good relationship like with you and me,
• 38:50
  Like she's not going to be able to ever have that with her parents,
• 38:52
  and then she couldn't even have that with Barry and Kim. So she's like
• 38:57
  reacting from this place of like extreme pain because yeah, nobody in her family
• 39:01
  wants to deal with her. Nobody in her family wants to talk to her.
• 39:05
  She has lydia grace, but only because it's convenient for her to have
• 39:07
  a friend after Mariah dumped her ass. So it's like, I feel for
• 39:13
  Olivia, but I think Ethan was right in reading her, like, You're
• 39:15
  never gonna find what you want unless you learn to deal with the relationships with
• 39:21
  your family and maybe go back to some of the core values in terms of
• 39:24
  like valuing your family or like loving your family. Yeah, but he's where
• 39:29
  I say that. No, he didn't. He doesn't say that because he
• 39:31
  doesn't know how to communicate it. Instead, he said, I think you
• 39:34
  should go back to some of your core values and reconnect with your family.
• 39:37
  This is where she brings up the patriarchal sort of culture. And then this
• 39:42
  is where he follows that up with, well, like, you know,
• 39:45
  men have inherent qualities that are manly, women have inherent qualities. Gender norms
• 39:51
  are normal, and when was the last time you cooked a meal? Like
• 39:55
  the way to a man's heart is three meals a day and it's what he's
• 40:00
  saying is you don't do the types of things wives should do to please their
• 40:04
  husbands. So kind of, then she goes from talking about this patriarchal culture
• 40:09
  and how toxic it is and how bad it was for her to him then
• 40:13
  parrotting back to her some patriarchal, toxic bullshit, misogynistic bullshit like where's my
• 40:16
  fucking foat? Yeah, where's my sandwich, bitch? And the thing is
• 40:21
  is I don't There are so many other things he could have said, right,
• 40:23
  There are so many other ways he could have said things. He has
• 40:27
  so many valid points. I'm actually rooting for Ethan in this conversation, but
• 40:30
  the way he said that was just oh, chrome magnum man og make fia,
• 40:37
  Oh for sure. Like the major issues that they have in their marriage
• 40:39
  is that neither one of them can communicate like what they really need from each
• 40:44
  other. Because Olivia's coming from this place of like, I really just want
• 40:46
  you to communicate better to me. Ethan doesn't necessarily get that because he thinks
• 40:51
  he's communicating okay to her, and like he thinks he's doing all of the
• 40:54
  things that she wants, but it's never good enough because again Olivia. It's
• 41:00
  never going to satisfy Olivia because she's got her own bullshit. And I think
• 41:04
  when they separated the first time, they should have just stayed separated. She
• 41:07
  wanted to be divorced from him, and then this whole conversation on the show.
• 41:13
  It was still on the show, and this whole conversation she kind of
• 41:15
  turns it around while like saying, Ethan, you're the one that wants to
• 41:19
  divorce, Like why don't you say it. It's like, no, bitch,
• 41:20
  you want a divorce too. Yes, but it does sound like he
• 41:23
  has been saying things like if you don't say yes to these three conditions for
• 41:29
  marriage, then we cannot be together. Yeah, And I loved when she
• 41:34
  kind of responded to his bullshit misogynistic where's my sandwich, bitch with It would
• 41:39
  be different if I loved to cook, and if like I had a passion
• 41:43
  and I felt really good and excited about cooking, and then when I cooked
• 41:45
  for you, you said, wow, that was so good, You're so
• 41:49
  good at it, and made it into something that was a higher expression of
• 41:52
  my love for you and your love for me. But instead it's like,
• 41:54
  if you don't cook, then I don't love you as much, So it's
• 41:59
  conditional. She's talking about conditions that she needs to meet in order to be
• 42:02
  in a relationship with Ethan. And at the end of the day, here's
• 42:05
  the thing. When they're saying our values don't line up, I don't want
• 42:08
  to bring kids into this mix. I think that's enlightened af. I think,
• 42:14
  thank you for thinking about that before you bring people into the world and
• 42:16
  confuse the shit out of them and give them all your problem. Of course,
• 42:20
  thank you, thank you. But at the same time, Ethan,
• 42:24
  he needs to learn how to say what he actually means. And I read
• 42:28
  a comment on Reddit that I thought was kind of interesting about this, if
• 42:30
  you don't mind. It's from user girl goal goals ninety five. She says,
• 42:36
  I'm from the South and religious and can confidently say Ethan didn't mean that
• 42:39
  comment literally about the three meals a day. He meant the type of woman
• 42:43
  that would cook three meals a day, a woman that wants to be a
• 42:45
  wife and a mother and shares his values of family and faith. He likes
• 42:50
  traditional gender roles. Many people do, they just aren't on TV. Olivia
• 42:53
  isn't wrong at all for what she believes and wants and not wanting that.
• 42:58
  Ethan isn't wrong for wanting that either. They just want different things. Olivia
• 43:01
  wanted those things when they got married, now she doesn't. It's okay.
• 43:06
  I don't understand why Ethan wanting to a stay at home wife and mother makes
• 43:09
  him a misogynist or indoctrinated. It's a very common thing in the South.
• 43:14
  There are women that want that for themselves and they are one hundred percent not
• 43:16
  oppressed, speaking from experience. Do you want that for yourself? Yeah,
• 43:21
  you want to be a stay at home I do. And you want to
• 43:22
  be the crunchy mom who cooks the meals and grows the food and does all
• 43:25
  the things well. And I do cook all the meals for my wife,
• 43:29
  and she's not a misogynist. Like and she, you know, has always
• 43:32
  told me like once she starts making more money and like we can, I
• 43:37
  can quit my job and be a stay at home wife. Like she expects
• 43:39
  me to be doing a lot of the housework. And I'm like, yeah,
• 43:42
  that's fucking fine, because if I don't have to work, then props.
• 43:45
  That's corl with me. So like, I don't think. I don't
• 43:49
  know if he was necessarily coming from an inherently misogynistic place. I think he
• 43:54
  said it pretty poorly because he's fucking dumb and doesn't know how to communicate his
• 44:00
  wants and needs. And I also want to speak to like the whole aspect
• 44:05
  of how much Olivia has changed, because I saw a few other comments on
• 44:07
  Reddit that I thought were interesting, like change is normal in a relationship and
• 44:12
  in a marriage. Everybody grows, everybody evolves as people, but like our
• 44:15
  core values and our core personalities don't necessarily change. And I think Olivia changed
• 44:23
  so much and changed like her whole aspect of herself, partly because I think
• 44:29
  she doesn't really know who she is. She's trying to figure out herself because
• 44:31
  she came from such a oppressive, patriarchal religious, strict structure and family life,
• 44:38
  and so she's really trying to figure out who she is. She's clinging
• 44:42
  to the complete and utter opposite of what she grew up to, what she
• 44:45
  grew up to believe and act like, because she thinks that that's how she'll
• 44:50
  find herself. And that's fine, Like, do whatever you need to do,
• 44:52
  figure out what you want to believe, be who you want to be
• 44:54
  that's fine. It's just she doesn't know who she is, so she's completely
• 44:59
  changed from this person she promised Ethan she would be. And Ethan's like,
• 45:02
  what the heck? I thought you were like the same person. Now we're
• 45:06
  like completely different people, like completely different. We can't even find one little
• 45:10
  tiny speck of common ground, so like, how can we raise a family?
• 45:15
  And she's triggered by that and whatever, and that's why they're breaking up.
• 45:19
  And I'm glad for that. So I don't agree with you that people
• 45:22
  don't fundamentally change their core values because I've lived on this planet for i'm mind
• 45:28
  my sixth decade or fifth decade. I don't really know how it works,
• 45:30
  but I'm fifty five years old. Yeah, and I have changed my core
• 45:34
  values a few times over, whether that's spirituality, whether that's perceptions of myself,
• 45:38
  whether that's fucking perceptions of society politically, I have changed over and over
• 45:44
  and over throughout the years. And I think that it's pretty normal for us
• 45:46
  to do that, and I think life is about that. And so I
• 45:50
  think, and we cannot discount that Olivia was twenty Yeah, I agree one
• 45:55
  hundred percent that what she's living now is a reaction to how how she lived
• 46:00
  before, and so it's like a pendulum swing here. She was living with
• 46:02
  her family with ten other kids in this very strict patriarchal, hyper religious situation,
• 46:08
  and the pendulum kind of swang to where it swang, swung to where
• 46:13
  she got married to Ethan. But she still found herself in much the same
• 46:16
  kind of a construct and she's moving with the final swing all the way up
• 46:21
  here. So she's in reaction. I think she's in reaction. I think
• 46:23
  ultimately she's going to end up like right in the middle, like the pendulum
• 46:27
  always does, and I think Ethan is going to too. Yeah, And
• 46:30
  what that means for me is I think when she's thirty thirty five, she's
• 46:32
  going to look back in this and she's going to see Ethan in a different
• 46:36
  way and see herself in a different way. I hope so. And I
• 46:38
  think Ethan is going to be a forty year old man and he's going to
• 46:42
  look at his twenty four year old self and how he threw away a relationship
• 46:45
  with someone who had a lot of good raw materials to work with. I
• 46:50
  am not an Olivia apologist, but she's an intelligent beautiful, thoughtful person who
• 46:55
  gets it wrong a lot of the times. But try and check with me.
• 46:58
  When I was twenty to twenty four, I was crazy person. Yeah.
• 47:00
  Same. I just feel like he's going to look back and he's going
• 47:02
  to regret the judgments that he's making on this woman that he is supposed to
• 47:07
  love unconditionally. So when he says you changed, and I changed in reaction
• 47:15
  to your change, and Olivia's like, people fucking change. Yeah. And
• 47:21
  furthermore, a marriage should be a place where it's safe to do so.
• 47:24
  It should be safe for me to explore myself within the confines or the connection
• 47:30
  of this marriage, and you should support that. I mean, the horseshit
• 47:32
  I've put my husband through, all of my husbands, by the way,
• 47:36
  the horseshit of my journey that I put all of my husbands through, and
• 47:39
  each and every one of them gave me space to do it. So I
• 47:45
  feel like I feel sad. I cried about it. And in the end,
• 47:50
  when the producer's like, this sounds really final, and Olivia says,
• 47:55
  but I still I wish the very best for you, and the way and
• 48:00
  looks at her, I know, like looking her up and down, and
• 48:02
  saying I love you very much. I know I felt that I felt that
• 48:07
  they neither one of them really well. I think Olivia didn't want to be
• 48:10
  married to him, but I think Ethan especially was like I didn't. I
• 48:14
  didn't want any of this to happen. I didn't want us to change so
• 48:16
  drastically that we couldn't even like make a marriage work. And I was thinking
• 48:21
  about it in the context of my own marriage and getting married young. Everybody
• 48:23
  fucking told me not to get married young. Everybody's like, don't do it.
• 48:27
  It's the worst mistake of your life. You're never gonna make it work.
• 48:30
  It's gonna end up in divorce. Like nobody besides you, guys,
• 48:34
  really nobody was like in support of us getting married really young. And I
• 48:38
  guess part of that comes from, like how difficult it is to be married
• 48:42
  at such a young age, because you have two things you have to do
• 48:45
  in a marriage, Like you have to grow together as a couple. But
• 48:47
  then when you're young and you get married, you have to grow up and
• 48:52
  you have to grow up individually. And that's really fucking hard when you're trying
• 48:54
  to grow up as a person and try to work on a marriage. Marriage
• 48:59
  is hard, and so like they're really young, they were really trying to
• 49:01
  make it work. Their brains fully formed, they're not fully formed at all
• 49:06
  yet scientifically scientists, they're not fully formed adultists, and so of course they're
• 49:09
  like making mistakes left and right. And like this was the episode where I
• 49:13
  actually did start to feel for Olivia a little bit more, because for as
• 49:16
  much as she has toxic behavior and manipulative tendencies, I think a lot of
• 49:22
  that comes from her shitty fucking family and her toxic upbringing, and she doesn't
• 49:27
  really know anything different, and she really needs to spend time on her own
• 49:30
  and like working on herself and going to therapy with the therapist that'll actually help
• 49:36
  her deal with all of this shit and the religious trauma of it all,
• 49:38
  and so she can be better and like have a good, healthy relationship with
• 49:43
  somebody who loves her the way that she needs to be loved. And I
• 49:45
  wish the same thing for Ethan. One thing Olivia said that I thought was
• 49:49
  so poignant was that she was born to two people who held their principles higher
• 49:57
  than their love for her. Yeah, and then she says, and I
• 50:00
  don't want to perpetuate that by having kids and doing the same. But what
• 50:01
  she should have said, And I don't want to be in a marriage with
• 50:05
  somebody who holds to their principles more than their love for me, Like,
• 50:09
  I don't want to continue this pattern in my life. Yeah, And that's
• 50:14
  why you're probably right with Ethan. The whole like divide in their beliefs is
• 50:19
  probably gay based, because he's talking about like, well, mutual respect for
• 50:23
  each other's different opinions doesn't negate right or wrong. And these aren't my rules.
• 50:30
  Their implying that their rules from God or whatever. So I'm just like,
• 50:34
  okay, Ethan, you got a lot of growing up to do.
• 50:37
  And if you want to raise your kids to be homophobic and religious or whatever,
• 50:40
  and like fine, but fine, I mean I can't. We're in
• 50:45
  America. Like, you have the right to raise your kids the way you
• 50:49
  want to raise them. It doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
• 50:51
  I don't give a shit. Just wait until you have a gay kid,
• 50:53
  though, right, you know. And that's how it always happens with these
• 50:57
  religious people, Like I know people from my church growing up that have seven
• 51:00
  thousand kids, and they preach constantly about how homosexuality is wrong and all of
• 51:05
  this shit. And I'm just like, wait until one of your kids comes
• 51:07
  out, though, and then what are you gonna do? Send them to
• 51:10
  conversion camp and traumatize them for life? A lot of them do, yeah,
• 51:14
  a lot of them do do that. Yeah. I just you know,
• 51:16
  I just feel like Ethan is moralistic, idealistic, or he's got an
• 51:24
  ideology around his morals that's just problematic, and it just doesn't allow for the
• 51:31
  different types of people in the world, the different shades, the different everything,
• 51:35
  Like it's just stupid. Yeah, it's also so myopic. It's like
• 51:38
  just you've got blinders on in your little life, your Jesus life, which,
• 51:43
  by the way, there's a lot of different things that you do that
• 51:45
  actually aren't in accordance with the tenants of your faith. But that's okay though,
• 51:49
  right, right, it's just Olivia having compassion and acceptance and tolerance for
• 51:53
  people who aren't like her, Like we're taking liberties here because we don't know
• 51:57
  that that's the fundamental issue. But it sure smells like, yeah, Disher,
• 52:00
  smells like it's around gayness and LGBTQ and probably politics, right because they
• 52:07
  mentioned politics and society and things. But I'm just like, oh, grow
• 52:10
  the fuck up. I know. Even then, I'm not entirely sure what
• 52:14
  Olivia's full stances are on that kind of stuff, because she's still friends with
• 52:19
  her brother what's his name, Nate, Nate or whatever Streambein, who is
• 52:22
  very anti LGBTQ, which he removed from his bio recently on his Instagram.
• 52:28
  Yeah, so I don't know if he's been getting yiah from it or definitely
• 52:30
  getting and after you. He allowed Olivia to put makeup on you and dress
• 52:36
  you up with makeup and I don't know if it was a wig or an
• 52:37
  address or whatever. And I'm just like, what, you'all need some therapy.
• 52:42
  Y'all need to get yourself together. It's like, yeah, look at
• 52:45
  the log in your own eye before you start picking out the speck in somebody
• 52:49
  else's eye. You judge mental fucking assholes, right anyway. So, but
• 52:53
  they're kids, you know. When I was that age, I was a
• 52:55
  missionary, honey, which is the most offensive thing here. Talk about values
• 52:59
  changing. I was a missionary three times. Yeah, going to other people's
• 53:01
  indigenous lands and trying to convert them to my religion. How audacious? And
• 53:07
  offensive and I would never presume to do anything like that, but these are
• 53:13
  kids. Yeah, And when you're a kid and you're converted, there's something
• 53:15
  different about it. It's like this fire in your belly that you have.
• 53:19
  For Jesus, you see it with Lydia right now in her closet. Yep,
• 53:22
  I know how bless in your closet, But like, talk to me
• 53:25
  when you're thirty and your husband's cheating on you and you've got a bottle of
• 53:29
  wine every night at five pm, Lydia, right then we can have a
• 53:30
  conversation about what it means to be alive on the planet. Seriously, these
• 53:36
  kids acting like they know anything. Y'all know shit yet? I mean,
• 53:38
  and look at your mama for real, you already know it doesn't stick for
• 53:42
  real? Watch your mama? Well wow, I just thought it was so
• 53:46
  good girl. When you compare and contrast Welcome to Platfow with what we saw
• 53:51
  on Sister Wives this season, including the tell all that we are currently slogging
• 53:55
  through, I just feel like there were so many more point and important moments.
• 54:01
  Yes, I enjoyed it, and why family feels more real. It
• 54:06
  feels like they're not fucking lying to us from the get go from season one,
• 54:09
  like yeah, they kind of put on an air in season one of
• 54:12
  like we're this happy family and everything and they have these problems, but like
• 54:16
  they still haven't really been hiding anything. They're just honest, like saying what
• 54:20
  it is. Oh, they're hiding stuff. I mean Kim is currently living
• 54:22
  with Ken Palmer. Yeah, and Kim got a DUI and there are things
• 54:25
  that are being hid in faux show. Well, maybe we'll see that next
• 54:29
  season because maybe it'll be like a Sister Wives type of thing where we're going
• 54:31
  to be delayed on the information. Who knows, I don't know. It'd
• 54:35
  be nice if we could see the d d I would love. I would
• 54:37
  love. Yeah, that's DWI stuff should have been handled in this season.
• 54:40
  So the fact that they didn't means that they're hiding it from us and it
• 54:45
  is what it is. But if they come back, I would love to
• 54:46
  see Ethan courting another woman. I would love to see mike A courting.
• 54:50
  I would love to see Lydia's boyfriend. I would love to see Barry going
• 54:52
  out on the tinder or something wiping this way and that way. Farmer's only
• 54:57
  Yes, Farmers only dot Com. Get you a far arm girl. I
• 55:00
  need to take care of Allah. We love that for you, Berry.
• 55:04
  Yes, this was really good, but now it is time to lighten the
• 55:07
  mood. Yes, with a conversation about ninety day fiance bitch. Sure,
• 55:12
  and so without further ado, let's take a little break, keeping the lights
• 55:15
  on, running some ads. We'll be back on the other side to get
• 55:17
  into it. Okay, let's get into Nandy day fiance girl. This episode
• 55:25
  was long. We were always long, I know, but I was watching
• 55:30
  this and I'm like, damn, is this episode longer than all the rest?
• 55:34
  It just felt like so long. But it was good. It's a
• 55:37
  slow increment of time. Yeah, that's why you have to do other things
• 55:40
  around the house. Is you watch it? Yeah? I totally. I
• 55:44
  watched it twice and I feel like I was doing shit both times. You
• 55:46
  run the risk of missing something though, I know. But we start this
• 55:51
  week's episode with Nicki and just An Eger and they are at a romantic getaway
• 55:58
  together because Eagle wants to fuck her and make her happy, okay, and
• 56:04
  so he says if she behaves, maybe I can give her the d The
• 56:07
  second time, does he want to fuck her or is he making herself,
• 56:12
  making himself suck her in the middle of the night, when he's halfway dreaming
• 56:16
  and halfway in the real world and pretending it's not happening. You know,
• 56:20
  That's what I'm like thinking it is, And that's why she's picking up on
• 56:22
  it, because you know, he does end up sucking her on this trip,
• 56:27
  but it's in three am, and it's not on her timetable, it's
• 56:30
  on his timetable, and so therefore she's mad. The lights her off.
• 56:32
  Yeah, it's under the blankets. Is that a bad thing? It's not,
• 56:37
  but if you're But I can see her point, like, I want
• 56:39
  to have freaky, deeky sex. I want to have a full union with
• 56:43
  mommy, and I want you to be waking me up in the middle of
• 56:45
  the night in the dark and putting it in. I want to have an
• 56:47
  experience with you. It just feels like to me, he's avoiding that closeness
• 56:52
  because yeah, he can't get there, No, and I don't think he
• 56:55
  can. But I just think her nagging about sex every fucking minute, every
• 57:00
  single conversation. It always ends up backed at sex. It's always back at
• 57:07
  It's really unattractive girl, like you have to have some more self worths that's
• 57:12
  not defined by sex. Like if you define your relationship and your love by
• 57:17
  sex, that's like so unhealthy. I mean, furthermore, is there anything
• 57:21
  else that you know how to talk about? Like do you have a job
• 57:23
  or a career? Do you have a passion? Is there a book that
• 57:25
  you're treating that you want to what are your dreams and aspirations? Are you
• 57:30
  as a human being? It's not just your genitalia for real, That's that's
• 57:34
  all she has. And I'm sorry, but I'm not interested. And I
• 57:37
  don't think Igor is interested either. No, I don't think so at all.
• 57:40
  And then they go to some bakery or whatever and they make something called
• 57:44
  placenta. I don't know. I didn't catch that. I must have been
• 57:47
  doing the foundry. I saw it. I paid attention. Is that the
• 57:51
  bread thing they were pulling apart looked really delivered? No, but it's called
• 57:52
  placenta. I know, all right, Well you're supposed to each placenta after
• 57:57
  you give birth. I do know that, Yes, And she again brings
• 58:00
  up like the whole sex thing, and he's just like, well, I'm
• 58:04
  trying, like, aren't you happy about it, and she's like, no,
• 58:07
  she's never happy. She's never happy. And then they go to wine
• 58:09
  tasting and they get Hella fucking wasted in front of this guy who takes his
• 58:15
  job way too seriously at the space. Oh my god, they were plastered.
• 58:21
  I know it looked fun. I mean, yeah, looked great.
• 58:22
  She was still talking about sex the entire time, the entire time, and
• 58:24
  her pussy lips and everything. I'm like, girl, the pussy lips are
• 58:29
  coming into the conversation. You've gone too far and you've lost everybody. Yes,
• 58:34
  because I understand a lot of us have them. Yeah, but I
• 58:36
  don't want to hear about that. No, I don't want to hear about
• 58:37
  the color of them. I don't want to hear about anything. And she's
• 58:42
  like, Megan out with him in front of this poor guys. I'm like,
• 58:45
  that is so crazy. It's abusive to me. Your public display of
• 58:49
  affection is abusive to me. I know, it's hella fucking cringe. And
• 58:53
  then they go and have sex that night or whatever, and it's fine,
• 58:58
  I guess, but Nicky still complaining about it because it's never good enough,
• 59:01
  it's never on her timetable, it's never in the frequency that she wants it.
• 59:05
  He doesn't go down on her. It's like all of these issues.
• 59:07
  So she's like, do you want to just be friends then, because I
• 59:09
  don't fuck my friends. And then Iger's like, well we kind of are
• 59:13
  though, like friends with benefits kind of well, and he's like, in
• 59:15
  Moldova, that's the thing we have it. We have a situation where you
• 59:20
  can fuck your friends and it's really great. I love that for us scandal
• 59:24
  Atova. And he's like, so are you telling me that this is something
• 59:29
  you've done and he's like, yeah, of course totally. And she's like,
• 59:31
  well, but when have you done it when we're together? And he's
• 59:35
  like, no, no, no, not since we're engaged. Yeah.
• 59:37
  So she's like so since August. It's well, we didn't. We applied
• 59:40
  for the visa in June, though, So are you telling me you've been
• 59:44
  out in these raccoon streets just banging the backs out of all these Moldovan women
• 59:47
  And he's like, yeah, it's better than masturbating. I couldn't believe he
• 59:52
  said that. Oh wow, bitch vibes is coming, dude. His one
• 59:55
  liners are so great, better than masturbation. I'm like, I mean,
• 1:00:00
  that's true, but it's not loyal. No, it's not faithful. And
• 1:00:05
  if you don't have that agreement in your relationship, then it's cheating. And
• 1:00:07
  if you're Nikki who's fixated entirely on sex and you hear that this man that
• 1:00:13
  you're in love with is banging the backside of other bitches, yet, you're
• 1:00:16
  gonna feel terrible about yourself. And immediately she spins out into reaction about it.
• 1:00:21
  Oh one percent. She immediately starts questioning their entire relationship and even if
• 1:00:24
  it's worth keeping. At this point, I'm like, oh my god,
• 1:00:29
  why is he in this? Why is he in this relationship? I don't
• 1:00:31
  think he actually loves her. I know he's introducing her to his family,
• 1:00:36
  which like would indicate that he loves her and his friend. But he doesn't
• 1:00:38
  want to touch her, He doesn't want to have sex with her. He
• 1:00:42
  doesn't like her energy like it didn't he also say masculine or man vibe.
• 1:00:45
  He literally said that she gives off man vibes and that's why he gets turned
• 1:00:49
  off. Oh mutching. What's in it for him? Is it money?
• 1:00:57
  Does she give him a lot of money? Like, what's the finance situation
• 1:01:00
  Like well, I mean, he says that she's the one that he wants
• 1:01:02
  to be with, and he told his friends that she's a sex machine and
• 1:01:06
  that he loves her. It's I think he can't get past the mental part
• 1:01:09
  of it because they had a whole ass two year long relationship together before she
• 1:01:15
  even came out as trans. And then she told him after they had already
• 1:01:19
  been intimate to this Eastern European guy with who believes in traditional gender roles and
• 1:01:24
  like arguably probably conservative, and she just completely like turned his whole world upside
• 1:01:30
  down. So I really think he's like struggling with that. It's just like,
• 1:01:34
  why are you even trying to still be with her? Then it's the
• 1:01:37
  money. I want to know more about the coins. I think it's the
• 1:01:38
  coins. She's a clout goblin. There's a bunch of things that are coming
• 1:01:43
  around online, Like she has been on TV for many many years, different
• 1:01:46
  shows, Oh yeah, like that a lot of them. Like she was
• 1:01:51
  on like My Trans Life, and I think she's like on Mary and then
• 1:01:53
  she was on a bunch of other like reality shows. I think she was
• 1:01:55
  on Botched. So like she's been on TV a lot, so Okay,
• 1:02:00
  this whole storyline could also just be totally scripted. Okay, yeah, but
• 1:02:06
  they're cringe. Then we get to Robin Sophie the bisexual storyline. Oh my
• 1:02:13
  god, cringe. I saw on Reddit some people asking like, why does
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  she feel the need to even tell him that she's bisexual because it doesn't really
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  matter they're in a monogamous relationship. But to that, I say, that
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  is her identity and she should be able to fully share her identity with the
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  person that she is with. And again, he needs to be making some
• 1:02:31
  space for who it is that she is. But of course we're talking about
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  rob who's chromagnean man og make fire. He's not going to hear it that
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  way. No, he doesn't understand the nuances of sexuality, Beatriz. Dude,
• 1:02:44
  He's one percent going to react like the typical straight guy that's like,
• 1:02:49
  well, are you gonna leave me for a woman? Or like what can
• 1:02:51
  a woman do that I can't do with my dick and my balls? Like
• 1:02:55
  he's gonna be like triggered by it. I feel like, well, I
• 1:02:58
  asked my husband what he would do if I told him that I was bisexual,
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  and he's like, you're figuring this out at fifty five years old.
• 1:03:07
  I'm like, first of all, fuck you rude, But then he's like,
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  I don't care, and I'm like, well, if you told me
• 1:03:15
  you were bisexual, I'm just being honest here, Okay and I have an
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  actual conversation about if you told me you were bisexual. My first thought would
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  be, okay, is that something you're going to want to explore? Is
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  that something that's going to impact the relationship that we have? So I think
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  it is entirely fair that Rob would wonder, well, what does that mean
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  for this relationship? I think he's much more likely, though, to default
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  to, well can I get it? Can I get some of that?
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  Because my husband actually said, if you had told me that in the first
• 1:03:43
  month or two of our relationship, I'd have been like, well can I
• 1:03:45
  join? Really you would have been they would have considered that, Oh my
• 1:03:50
  god, scandal some time right now? Then we went to bed early.
• 1:03:55
  Stop girls, it's scandalizing. You don't think I bang my husband. I
• 1:04:08
  just don't want to think about it. What do you think this leg's going
• 1:04:12
  due to that? Baby? I know how to live my leg, Like
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  this is how they do. They talk to us all day every day like
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  this is a tame compared to off camera. I'm just saying, I mean,
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  have you seen him. He's a handsome hand, he has money,
• 1:04:30
  he's younger than me by a damn side, and so I got some time
• 1:04:34
  with that man. I take it. Our podcast listeners don't see that.
• 1:04:43
  My leg is up in the air. Not high because I'm old, but
• 1:04:45
  it is getting up there. I still do what I want to do.
• 1:04:47
  Anyway, back to Robin, Anyway, back to them, well before the
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  whole bisexual conversation that leaves off on a fucking cliffhanger because nobody cares. Literally
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  every woman is bisexual a little bit. I don't to be rude. Is
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  that rude? I know, I don't think so. If y'all are rude,
• 1:05:03
  like triggered by that, then go away. It's not the dumpster for
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  you. Even Olivia Plath watches porn, dude, watch her have a bisexual
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  phase after this, Oh gosh, I wish I had had a full bisexual
• 1:05:16
  phase. Yeah, you missed out. I was sold out in radical for
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  Jesus though I couldn't have done it, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't want
• 1:05:23
  to do it. I would just want to get it done. Yeah,
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  you're a pillow princess. Yeah yeah I would. God, it wasn't as
• 1:05:30
  acceptable back there beaddressed. I know, I couldn't have just lifted the leg
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  for that. I would have thought about it though. Sorry, go on,
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  Oh my god. Well, before all of this, they went bowling
• 1:05:44
  with Rob's brows. Well, the only thing that was interesting was that to
• 1:05:48
  Rye immediately jumps into like getting mad at Sophie. He's like, why are
• 1:05:53
  you looking through my bro's phone? Why don't you trust you? You're not
• 1:05:57
  in this relationship. I don't even know you, and you're yellow jacket and
• 1:06:00
  sure real, And Sophie's like, did he even tell you the full story?
• 1:06:03
  Though? He was snapchatting some hoes and he was asking for Nudi picks
• 1:06:09
  and he was sending them back, sending those nudie pics. And then the
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  bros I loved that. They just like immediately turned on Rob after this.
• 1:06:15
  They're like, dude, you didn't tell us this shit. What are you
• 1:06:18
  talking about? And Rob's like, well, what did I have to tell
• 1:06:20
  you all the details? Because you're sharing that part where she's bad and going
• 1:06:25
  into your phone and invading your privacy but you're not sharing the impetus for the
• 1:06:29
  reason why, because you did this to her before. Yeah, and because
• 1:06:31
  you ain't shit. Yes, Rob's a piece of shit. Something about his
• 1:06:36
  face that just rubs me the wrong way. The way he looks tick.
• 1:06:40
  Not not the way he looks, but the way he looks with his eyes,
• 1:06:42
  Yes, the way he looks at the world. It's like condescenditary.
• 1:06:45
  Is there's something about him? Yeah? Yeah? And leuh tie in to
• 1:06:47
  Rye say it's big Leo energy, which I was very offended by as a
• 1:06:51
  Leo because you object, but it's true something Leo's can be very big douchebag
• 1:06:57
  energy is ego maniac douche bad vibes is coming. Yep. So we'll see
• 1:07:01
  next episode the end of the whole bisexual conversation here, I'm anticipating that is
• 1:07:08
  going to be mad about it. Then we get to a new couple,
• 1:07:11
  Sam and Citra. Listen, I have named him Johnny MESSI c Johnny.
• 1:07:20
  Do you know who Johnny Appleseed is? Yes, I mean it's just this
• 1:07:23
  archetype of like you know, this all American boy. Yeah. He he
• 1:07:30
  wasn't on nes though he was, well was he? Yeah? Did he
• 1:07:32
  say that yes, he was addicted. Well, I mean, isn't ADHD
• 1:07:36
  pills and adderall? Isn't that a type of meth? Yeah, but he
• 1:07:40
  said specifically opiates. I don't know. I just I'm I'm cringing for this
• 1:07:45
  poor girl from Indonesia with her policia father who's never how go on, Well,
• 1:07:50
  I'm like, he's thirty years old and he sleeps in his car because
• 1:07:55
  he has two jobs, which is fine, Like, you're hard working man,
• 1:07:58
  that's great, you work for Amazon and you're doing your thing, But
• 1:08:00
  why are you sleeping in your car? And why are you bringing some girl
• 1:08:04
  over from Indonesia? Like does he have a house? Well, it sounds
• 1:08:08
  like he has a home and he's only sleeping in his car because it would
• 1:08:11
  be too long of a commute to go all the way back to his home
• 1:08:14
  and then go out again to do his second job. So he sleeps in
• 1:08:15
  his car, which is code for me that he's homeless. Yeah, that's
• 1:08:18
  why I was thinking too, I'm homeless. He's literally showering at the gas
• 1:08:23
  station. So I'm just like, so is he going to bring this beautiful
• 1:08:26
  woman from Indonesia to I don't know where? They are in America and Hai
• 1:08:30
  surry and have her live in his car with him. That's her Dad's gonna
• 1:08:35
  love that dude. And she's a devout Muslim and she expects Sam to convert
• 1:08:43
  for her so that they can get married, because otherwise there will be no
• 1:08:45
  marriage and there will be no pussy without him converting to Islam. But he's
• 1:08:49
  an atheist and his father is into aliens, which I love, I know.
• 1:08:57
  I'm like, oh my God, tell me more of mo. Would
• 1:08:59
  you believe? I believe aliens name too? Of course they exist, you
• 1:09:03
  think. So do you think they're visiting our planet right now? And they've
• 1:09:06
  been visiting girls since Roswell? Oh my gosh. Okay, So I want
• 1:09:10
  to hear more about the dad. I know that's the most interesting thing to
• 1:09:14
  the storyline. Yeah, Like, I really don't care about the rest of
• 1:09:15
  their relationship. They haven't had sex yet because she's a good Muslim girl.
• 1:09:19
  But then she gets on the phone and is like, yeah, so when
• 1:09:21
  I get there, we have to get married in two weeks according to my
• 1:09:26
  dad's rules. And I'm like, oh God, he does not want us
• 1:09:29
  sin and honey, what a mess. Then we get to Devin and Nick.
• 1:09:33
  Girl, bitch this peace Beatrice. Shit Beatrice. I lost my fucking
• 1:09:42
  shit, I know watching that scene. Oh my god, Catfish, I'm
• 1:09:47
  sorry, go on, No, like that's all it was. I mean
• 1:09:49
  they toured Circe, Arkansas, the lovely, bustling city of Circe. You're
• 1:09:57
  commemorating somebody who was advocating for slave oh right, okay, And Devon's like
• 1:10:01
  yeah, but it's okay, like whatever. And then they get to a
• 1:10:04
  store that says like White County or whatever, and Nick is like, is
• 1:10:10
  that about race? And she's like, no, it's just the county that
• 1:10:12
  we're in. Oh my, well, it's like in Texas, in North
• 1:10:15
  Texas, it's like White Settlement. Yeah. When I got here a few
• 1:10:18
  years ago, I'm like, are we for real right now? This town
• 1:10:21
  is called White Settlement. We're on the south maybe right? Oh my god.
• 1:10:27
  So obviously Nick feels completely out of place. I don't know what the
• 1:10:30
  fuck you were expecting when you came to Arkansas. He's driving through as they
• 1:10:33
  come home from the airport, and he's like, this is not the America
• 1:10:36
  I imagined. Okay, Like, I'm sorry, but America is a huge
• 1:10:40
  country. And most of America is like this, which is what Devin tells
• 1:10:44
  him. Yes, But then they get to the catfish fry at Devon's parents'
• 1:10:47
  house with their family, and they all seem very nice, very nice,
• 1:10:50
  and they're like just asking him questions. And then I think it was Devon's
• 1:10:55
  aunt that asks him, like, what do you think about Americans? And
• 1:10:58
  he's like, you know, fat people and greasy food. And then they
• 1:11:01
  start talking about fast food, and Devon's like, well, unhealthy food and
• 1:11:05
  fast food is usually cheaper, so that's why most people go for it.
• 1:11:10
  Devon's dad is like, yeah, and some people are just lazy because they
• 1:11:12
  don't want to have to cook or whatever, like Olivia Blath, who doesn't
• 1:11:15
  I want to cook a meal? You know, they just want to get
• 1:11:17
  some fast food. And then Nick says, oh, so that's why you're
• 1:11:21
  a piggy then, and because you're lazy and you get fast food and grabs
• 1:11:26
  Devin's belly. Do you know that my husband did that to me this morning
• 1:11:30
  when I was getting coffee. He called you a pick he said, piggy,
• 1:11:31
  and he grabbed my belly. I'm like, oh, listen, First
• 1:11:33
  of all, no, absolutely not. Second of all, lower grab my
• 1:11:41
  fat cat instead. This is a little South to the fat cat, honey.
• 1:11:45
  But he was appalled, He has appalled that anybody would do that.
• 1:11:47
  And personally, this is not cultural. This is purely about disrespect. Yeah,
• 1:11:54
  and maybe this is a power play. Maybe it's a kind of Korean
• 1:11:57
  nagging where he's perpetually making her feel insecure about her body based on his idea
• 1:12:02
  of what the standard is and he's just gonna continue to do it. And
• 1:12:04
  he doesn't give a shit that it offends her because she's told him outright,
• 1:12:09
  please don't, and he's still doing it. And now you're doing it in
• 1:12:11
  front of her daddy. I can't believe that he did that in front of
• 1:12:15
  her family. And the dad's like, I'm gonna have to have a fucking
• 1:12:17
  talk. Yes you are, mister Devin. In the fucking preview, he's
• 1:12:23
  like, so why are you calling my daughter piggy? And Nick laughs in
• 1:12:28
  front of his dad. Could you imagine if I said some shit like that
• 1:12:32
  about your daughter and then I said that in front of your husband, he'd
• 1:12:35
  be like, get the fuck out of me. If you said that in
• 1:12:38
  front of me, we would be having a very heartfelt conversation. I'd be
• 1:12:42
  telling you to fucking get it for yourself, bitch, That's what I'd be
• 1:12:45
  saying. I'd be very upset about it. Yes, and then if you
• 1:12:48
  laughed at me, I would kick you out of my house or I would
• 1:12:50
  consel my daughter. She'd get rid of you because you fucking suff That is
• 1:12:55
  what I would do. But he laughs, Wow, unbelievable, dude.
• 1:13:00
  I don't know how she's like dealing with him. I'm like, Devin,
• 1:13:01
  you're a pretty girl, like you're a nice girl. She doesn't see her
• 1:13:04
  she does. There's no way that she has appropriate self worth if she's allowing
• 1:13:10
  some douchebag to talk to her like that. I know. It's so fucking
• 1:13:14
  sad. So we'll see what happens next episode. And then last but not
• 1:13:17
  least, we have Menuel and Ashley who are just kind of annoying. I'm
• 1:13:20
  tired of them. They're like fighting about everything. It's the wedding now.
• 1:13:25
  He doesn't want her to pay that money to go down to Florida to have
• 1:13:29
  the wedding of her dreams. They've kind of loved someone like this who okay,
• 1:13:33
  and I'm willing to get myself into debt so that I can marry this
• 1:13:36
  guy who doesn't actually love me. No, and he's the only voice of
• 1:13:40
  reason here. He's like, do we really need to do all that?
• 1:13:43
  We really need to spend all that money, And she's like, well,
• 1:13:45
  yeah, I don't want to have to compromise on that because I'm a princess
• 1:13:47
  and I've been dreaming about it all of my life and making it up.
• 1:13:49
  She didn't say that, but pretty much the same kind of crap women tend
• 1:13:53
  to say. Yeah. But then eventually they go to Lake, Ontario and
• 1:13:56
  they have a talk where she actually listens to him, and he like,
• 1:14:00
  look, I just have been the only soul provider for my family since I
• 1:14:03
  was thirteen. You don't know what it's fucking like because you're in America and
• 1:14:09
  I just want to provide for my family, Like I feel obligated to provide
• 1:14:12
  for my family, and I can't work right now to do that. And
• 1:14:15
  so then they come to a compromise. She's going to send one hundred dollars
• 1:14:17
  to his family, and then after the wedding then she'll start sending more money.
• 1:14:21
  Right and the end, when does he get to get a job.
• 1:14:25
  I don't know. I think it's after the visa, like once it gets
• 1:14:28
  approved, because then they have to apply he has to apply for like his
• 1:14:30
  green card or whatever it has to get his green card. I did think
• 1:14:33
  him rolling around in the water and feeling super connected and like he was back
• 1:14:38
  home, Yeah, in the tropics. I thought that was really sweet.
• 1:14:41
  You know, he's homesick and it was something that connected him to his homeland.
• 1:14:45
  But yeah, I'm bored of them, I know, deeply bored of
• 1:14:47
  them. Super boring. Yeah, and then we get to the preview Geno
• 1:14:50
  and Jasmine or like in Florida side things. I know, like where are
• 1:14:56
  you? They're in Florida because she's got to get some sun energy. And
• 1:14:59
  then and then she takes off her clothes at the airport. Yeah, strips,
• 1:15:03
  strips down because she's feeling the sun. She's got a whibsorb all the
• 1:15:08
  sunshine she gets. I mean that's fair. If I was living in Michigan
• 1:15:11
  with overcast skies twenty four to seven, I'd be like, please, you
• 1:15:14
  need the sun. Please. That's about where we're going to be moving,
• 1:15:16
  so you better get used to it. Hone. Yeah, well maybe it'll
• 1:15:18
  be sunny or it'll be fine, all right, I'll be okay. And
• 1:15:23
  then Clayton and Auntily are feeding goats. I don't care, so bored.
• 1:15:27
  Citra flies to Missouri to be with Sam. Devin's dad confronts Nick on the
• 1:15:31
  fat shaming, and then Nikki is questioning her relationship with Igor. Okay,
• 1:15:35
  that's it. I look forward to it. I know I am relatively entertained
• 1:15:40
  by ninety day fiance. Me too. I heard the other way as a
• 1:15:42
  train wreck. And there's like no likable characters. That's the one with the
• 1:15:45
  psychic and the Indian family, right, yes, and Danielle and Johan,
• 1:15:47
  that's right. And I think Jenny and Sameat made an appearance at the tel
• 1:15:53
  all really, and Kimberly called Jenny a cunt. Yeah you didn't see that,
• 1:15:58
  a little reddit no idea. She called Jenny akun and Jenny said,
• 1:16:01
  don't you come back. Don't you come back to India. You stay in
• 1:16:03
  America. We don't want you here. I don't know, it's crazy,
• 1:16:08
  crazy, Oh my god. We should have covered the other way. I
• 1:16:12
  know. Chicaina and Surper are just like straight up cloud goblins, like nobody
• 1:16:15
  cares about them, but they're interesting over there. Somewhat. Well, this
• 1:16:19
  was very, very fun. Yeah, some good conversations around Welcome to Platsville
• 1:16:24
  and also ninety Day Fiance. We will be back next week to discuss sister
• 1:16:29
  wives because we still have more tail alls, Toney, I think we have
• 1:16:30
  two more tail alls and we have four more specials and Christine getting married.
• 1:16:33
  Oh my god, store raccoons are busy. Yeah, but until then,
• 1:16:39
  is there anything else that we need to say to these beautiful records. Well,
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• 1:16:45
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• 1:16:49
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• 1:16:51
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