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Margaret Josephs on The End of Real Housewives New Jersey · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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  Speaker 2: Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: I have a great interview today that I did that
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  Speaker 3: you are going to die at all the juice that
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  Speaker 3: was dropped. But first, let me just get into some
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  Speaker 3: hot topics that we've been doing on the show and
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  Speaker 3: some updates. First of all, the earthquake. So last time
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  Speaker 3: I was here, we had an earthquake. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I've talked about that I'm a native Angeleno and And
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  Speaker 3: I have been through many of an earthquakes. I believe
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  Speaker 3: I have an ability much like a dog that feels
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  Speaker 3: it before other people. And so when that happened, we
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  Speaker 3: got the clip, we put it out there and CNN
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  Speaker 3: picked it up. They showed a couple other people in
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  Speaker 3: LA that happened to be filming. The other ones were
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  Speaker 3: actual like TV shows. So thank you, CNN, for appreciating it.
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  Speaker 3: And they did say, as I was the third one
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  Speaker 3: that they featured out of the three, they said, One
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  Speaker 3: woman had much more of a panicked reaction, and that
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  Speaker 3: was me, comedian Heather MacDonald. And so in posting it
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  Speaker 3: under CNN and Daily News that shared the video, some
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  Speaker 3: of those great fans that love me from my other
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  Speaker 3: viral video of when I faded at the Tempe Improv,
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  Speaker 3: they were commenting, you know, is this the lady that
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  Speaker 3: got the jab?
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  Speaker 2: Is this the one that mocked God? And I realized.
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  Speaker 3: that right before the earthquake happened, I was talking about
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  Speaker 3: having better relationships with your mother-in-laws. And I said, that's
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  Speaker 3: why I think those requirements that certain churches ask you
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  Speaker 3: to do before you get married.
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  Speaker 2: And that's when the earth started shaking.
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  Speaker 3: So once again, yes, I believe Jesus loves me and
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  Speaker 3: he believes in giving me as many viral videos as possible.
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  Speaker 3: So thank you. Stay safe, America. Let's talk about all
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  Speaker 3: the flubs that I do in my show. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of people are like, is this even real?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I talked about Snoop performing with.
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  Speaker 3: Dr. Dre. But in my head, I saw DRU and
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking Drew and I was thinking Dr. Drew,
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  Speaker 3: my friend, the world famous doctor therapist. And so Michelle,
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  Speaker 3: AJC Scooper, made this photo for me of Dr. Drew,
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  Speaker 3: who is a singer. Possibly rapping with Snoop at the Olympics.
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  Speaker 3: So let's make that happen. Also, people asked about my book. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: You'll Never Blue Ball in This Town Again is about
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  Speaker 3: my dating adventures as an old virgin.
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  Speaker 2: And you can still buy it. So check it out.
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  Speaker 2: It's been around a long time.
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  Speaker 3: I'd love to see it be made as a movie
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  Speaker 3: or a TV show.
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  Speaker 2: So it's there. Let's put it on the vision board. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Update on poor Jordan Childs, which again, I mispronounced her
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  Speaker 3: last name. They said, Heather, did you not watch any
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  Speaker 3: of the Olympics?
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  Speaker 5: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest with you guys. I kind
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  Speaker 2: of didn't. I was traveling.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't home for when the gymnastics was happening live
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  Speaker 3: and I wasn't watching it live on my phone and
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  Speaker 3: I would see the updates. And so, yeah, I mispronounced
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  Speaker 3: her name, but it's Jordan Childs rhymes with Biles.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, she doesn't have her bronze back, but thank goodness
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  Speaker 3: America is fighting to get it back to her. And
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  Speaker 3: they discovered that the Romanian person on the panel that
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  Speaker 3: said they believed that they were a couple seconds off
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  Speaker 3: in saying, wait a minute, we have some complaint. And
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  Speaker 3: then they did it. And then they re-evaluated Jordan. And
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  Speaker 3: then she got the medal. They're saying, no, you were
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  Speaker 3: too late on that. And they're saying that person that
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  Speaker 3: is advocating that it was too late in which the
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  Speaker 3: medal then went to the Romanian person. This panel member
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  Speaker 3: who ruled that is saying that has a history of
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  Speaker 3: representing Romania in legal cases. So now they think this
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  Speaker 3: panel person might be Team Romania, which took the medal
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  Speaker 3: from USA Jordan Child.
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  Speaker 2: So I wish they could just make two medals. This
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  Speaker 2: is so sad. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Simone Biles, biological mother who struggled with an alcohol addiction.
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  Speaker 3: her grandparents raised she and her sister. That woman is
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  Speaker 3: a cashier. Her name is Shannon. She has reached out.
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  Speaker 3: She has talked to Simone's sister. But she said, I'm
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  Speaker 3: just waiting for Simone to respond. And I'm so proud
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  Speaker 3: of her. And I'd love to have her be part
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  Speaker 3: of my life. I'm not the woman I was then.
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  Speaker 3: And I really hope that this could happen because these grandparents,
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  Speaker 3: maybe these grandparents are on the father's side.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm thinking if it was the grandparents and Shannon
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  Speaker 3: was their daughter, that they would want.
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  Speaker 2: That to all come together.
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  Speaker 3: But, you know, when people are adults and they don't
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  Speaker 3: want to have any association with a former family member,
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  Speaker 3: that's their right, too. So kind of sad. But I
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  Speaker 3: think she's handling herself in a really classy way, being
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  Speaker 3: that her daughter is the most decorated Olympian ever. And
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  Speaker 3: she's not being obnoxious about it. So I wish her
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  Speaker 3: well and her sobriety and maybe they can get together.
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  Speaker 3: Now with more of the hit movie made $ 50 million
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  Speaker 3: last weekend. It ends with us based on the book.
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  Speaker 3: Blake Lively is a star and the producer. And Justin
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  Speaker 3: Baldoni is the co-star and also the director. We talked
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  Speaker 3: about this the other day that nobody on the cast
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  Speaker 3: is following him. He is no longer doing– they're not
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  Speaker 3: doing press together because he doesn't like the way it
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  Speaker 3: was promoted. Also, there were two different final edits, one
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  Speaker 3: that he did and one that Blake pushed for, Blake Lively.
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  Speaker 3: And she said, well, they just chose the more feminine edit.
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  Speaker 3: The word is that he feels like that wasn't really
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  Speaker 3: the point of the book that is being promoted as
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  Speaker 3: more of like a Barbie type movie, a loving story.
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  Speaker 2: I talked about when I saw the trailer.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know the story involved it involved generational and
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  Speaker 3: domestic violence. I would have never thought that from the trailer.
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  Speaker 3: And they're trying to get seats, you know, filled in
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  Speaker 3: the theaters. And so he is not, I guess, not
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  Speaker 3: happy with the cut. And he spoke about it, though. However,
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  Speaker 3: he has said Blake was wonderful to work with and
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  Speaker 3: that she should direct the sequel or the prequel or
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  Speaker 3: whatever that is. And he has since hired a PR
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  Speaker 3: team because he feels– I guess he feels, according to
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  Speaker 3: Us Weekly, that he needs a PR team because this
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  Speaker 3: has gotten so bad. I think this is great PR.
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  Speaker 3: I really want to go see the movie now. I
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  Speaker 3: want to see how they may have chosen a more
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  Speaker 3: feminine edit versus– The rawness, I mean, he's playing an abuser,
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  Speaker 3: which he was concerned about doing that. And so this
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  Speaker 3: is like very, very interesting. And I think it's only
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  Speaker 3: going to make people more curious about the movie. So
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a win-win for everybody, even though maybe
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  Speaker 3: that's not how they planned it. A little update on
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  Speaker 3: the poor widow, the influencer widow whose husband ended his
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  Speaker 3: life based on the financial ruins that he'd put his
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  Speaker 3: family in that he could not live in this lifestyle
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  Speaker 3: of the Hamptons and.
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  Speaker 2: Owed all this money.
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  Speaker 3: She has removed her social media, as I said, but
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  Speaker 3: now the word is from page six, sources are saying
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  Speaker 3: she is leaving the Hamptons in New York and going
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  Speaker 3: to take her two kids and move to Miami in
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  Speaker 3: Florida and start a new life, which I think that
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  Speaker 3: is the right thing to do. And now for our
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  Speaker 3: new segment, Juicy Scoop Golf News. Yes, there's actually a
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  Speaker 3: golf story that was sent to me. I did my investigation.
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  Speaker 3: I have two people on staff that are expert golfers
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  Speaker 3: that help me explain.
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  Speaker 2: I actually am redoing the story because I did it
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  Speaker 2: wrong the first time.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Tommy Lee's son, Brandon, he belongs to Sherwood Country Club,
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  Speaker 3: a beautiful country club out in the Westlake-Thousand Oaks area.
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  Speaker 3: Quick note, when you watch the movie Bridesmaids, when she's
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  Speaker 3: going to the baby shower where they're giving out the
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  Speaker 3: little puppies, she goes through the gates.
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  Speaker 2: That's the gates of Sherwood.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so it's a very nice gated community with a
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  Speaker 3: fabulous golf course in it. Now, even though celebrities go there,
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  Speaker 3: a country club within the LA County, they're really not
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  Speaker 3: impressed with Hollywood types. They really, sometimes they don't want you.
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  Speaker 3: So Brandon joined a while ago. He's a full member
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  Speaker 3: on his own. He's been a member since 2021. The
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  Speaker 3: average price to join this country club is $ 150, 000. According
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  Speaker 3: to TMZ, he lost his club membership. The story is
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  Speaker 3: they're very strict about staying on the golf path, the
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  Speaker 3: concrete part.
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  Speaker 2: You're not supposed to.
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  Speaker 3: Drive your cart to that part of the green, okay,
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  Speaker 3: because it screws up the beautiful grass for the other
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  Speaker 3: members that want to play. He allegedly got too close
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  Speaker 3: to the green, and a homeowner who most likely was
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  Speaker 3: all a member of the club, probably have been there
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  Speaker 3: for 20 years and has a lot of power, maybe
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  Speaker 3: he's even on the board, said, hey, you're too close
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  Speaker 3: to the green.
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  Speaker 2: He said, no, I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: And an argument ensued and the man took out his
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  Speaker 3: phone and tried to film him, which then he got
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  Speaker 3: really angry, allegedly, And they kicked him out of the club.
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  Speaker 3: And they also said there were complaints about him being
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  Speaker 3: rude to other members and to staff. His team has
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  Speaker 3: said that's not true. I've always had a great time there.
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  Speaker 3: I've always was nice to the staff and nice to
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  Speaker 3: other members.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't true. I wasn't on the green, whatever. But
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  Speaker 2: that's the news. You have to.
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  Speaker 3: Follow these rules, whether you're Tommy Lee's son or not.
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  Speaker 3: But if you remember back in the day, Tommy Lee
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  Speaker 3: used to get real angry at the paparazzi too when
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  Speaker 3: he was out and about. So maybe he's just a
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  Speaker 3: little angry and he probably didn't like being filmed. According
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  Speaker 3: to these sources, Ben Affleck is prioritizing his sobriety over
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  Speaker 3: his marriage with Jennifer Lopez.
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  Speaker 2: This is from marca.com.
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  Speaker 3: That he is very upset that she went forward with
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  Speaker 3: an alcohol brand, Delola, being that he struggled with alcohol.
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  Speaker 3: He did not like that she pursued this partnership with
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  Speaker 3: this alcohol brand.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I can kind of see why. I've said it didn't
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  Speaker 3: make sense. Also, she was never a big drinker. She
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  Speaker 3: would say, oh, I had one champagne a year. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if someone in my family had a major injury from
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  Speaker 3: riding an electric scooter, I think it would be in
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  Speaker 3: poor taste if all of a sudden I paired with
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  Speaker 3: an electric scooter company and was like riding it around
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  Speaker 3: if someone like had a massive head injury or something.
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  Speaker 2: So I agree. I didn't think it was a wise thing.
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  Speaker 3: I think she should not have gone forward with it
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  Speaker 3: being that she was, you know, even if it was
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  Speaker 3: in the works, I think she should have killed it
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  Speaker 3: and just stuck with like, I don't know, representing an
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  Speaker 3: air fryer or something instead. But they're saying that they
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  Speaker 3: are like the divorce papers are all ready to go.
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  Speaker 3: They just haven't announced it yet. But meanwhile, her stepdaughter,
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  Speaker 3: Jennifer Gardner and Ben's daughter, Violet Affleck, was wearing Jennifer's
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  Speaker 3: old Dolce & Gabbana dress, looking beautiful in it. So, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I hope that the kids don't suffer if they do,
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  Speaker 3: in fact, break up. I hope that she can have
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  Speaker 3: a nice relationship with her former stepmom if she becomes
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  Speaker 3: a former stepmom.
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  Speaker 2: But I get it.
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  Speaker 3: Little update on such a juicy story. Amy Robach and
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  Speaker 3: TJ Holmes. You remember they were both co-hosts on Good
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  Speaker 3: Morning America. Turned out they had an affair. They fired them.
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  Speaker 3: And like anybody else, they licked their wounds and started
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  Speaker 3: a podcast together about their relationship. Well, shortly after their breakup,
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  Speaker 3: her ex-husband, Andrew Hsu, former actor of Melrose Place, started
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  Speaker 3: dating TJ Holmes, soon to be ex-wife, named Melrose.
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  Speaker 2: Marley, Marley. And people couldn't believe it's true. It's true.
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  Speaker 3: He just gave a quick update on like another podcast
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  Speaker 3: about rewatching Melrose Place episodes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what else are you going to do?
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  Speaker 3: And said, no, we're doing great. I just think that
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  Speaker 3: this is amazing. I remember it happened with Shania Twain
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  Speaker 3: when her friend started dating her husband, but then she
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  Speaker 3: got together with that friend's husband and And I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if both couples are still going strong, but it
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  Speaker 3: is kind of an amazing thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's just kind of a win-win. It's very weird,
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  Speaker 2: but I sort of love it.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe because I know that I think he and
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  Speaker 3: Marilee had kids together, TJ and her, but Amy Robach
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  Speaker 3: and Andrew Hsu were both each other's second marriage. So
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  Speaker 3: they brought kids into the marriage, but they didn't have
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  Speaker 3: one together. Maybe they can all have Thanksgiving together. Bring
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  Speaker 3: all the kids, hang out. Maybe they're like, this is great.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're happy.
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  Speaker 3: Thank God you guys started fucking.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise, I wouldn't know that the love of my life
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  Speaker 2: was the scorned woman. Like, it's a win-win. Talk about
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  Speaker 2: making lemonade. It could all work out, people. Okay. The
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  Speaker 2: biggest loser.
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  Speaker 3: remember that show? It was so horrible, you guys. This
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  Speaker 3: was one of the shows you look back on and
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  Speaker 3: you're like, this and The Swan, where they gave people
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  Speaker 3: plastic surgery and then they didn't let them see themselves
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  Speaker 3: until the very end. And then they would take down
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  Speaker 3: the mirror and the person looked like Miss Piggy with
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  Speaker 3: a wig on.
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  Speaker 2: It was just so strange.
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  Speaker 3: And then those people had a hard time keeping it
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  Speaker 3: up because they'd go back to their job at the
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  Speaker 3: Dairy Queen and they couldn't keep the hair extensions in.
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  Speaker 3: And all this stuff, but at least they had like
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  Speaker 3: a chin.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Now in this case, these biggest loser people, they would say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: everyone take.
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  Speaker 2: Off your shirt.
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  Speaker 3: And the women would have little sports bras on and they're,
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  Speaker 3: you know, with their exposed midriff and everything. And They would,
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  Speaker 3: like this guy said, they would absolutely starve me. Like
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  Speaker 3: I was starving and I was so dehydrated by the
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  Speaker 3: end of it that it was like medical. And then
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  Speaker 3: there was so much shame because once he left that
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  Speaker 3: place where he was only drinking like lemon and cayenne
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  Speaker 3: pepper or something, then it was a very impossible thing
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  Speaker 3: to keep up. So then there'd be a lot of
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  Speaker 3: shame with that. So it's just no surprise. But he
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  Speaker 3: said we were exploited.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you think? You think as we made you.
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  Speaker 3: Get on a scale and make you take off your shirt,
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  Speaker 3: you don't think that was exploiting you?
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  Speaker 2: Horrible. But you know what?
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  Speaker 3: That's what America is, is looking back at the past
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  Speaker 3: and being like, oh my God, we were awful.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this newcomer, Katie, I met her. She's a very
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  Speaker 2: cute girl. She's on Real Housewives of.
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  Speaker 3: O.C., And she's being sued for $ 5 million because she
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  Speaker 3: and two other people came up with this great idea
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  Speaker 3: to sell these little shot glasses that are like a
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  Speaker 3: glass golf ball.
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  Speaker 2: At the bottom. And, God, there's a lot of golf
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  Speaker 2: in this state.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's like a little– and somebody gave it
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  Speaker 3: to us. Someone gave these glasses to us. They're very
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  Speaker 3: cute shot glasses. They're a really cute gift. This guy
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  Speaker 3: is saying that was my idea and I shared it
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  Speaker 3: with these two partners who Georgia Dolores, who then stole
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  Speaker 3: my idea and got with Katie, who already had a
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  Speaker 3: golf line because they knew it was going to explode
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  Speaker 3: because she was going to be on The Real Housewives.
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  Speaker 3: And you stole my idea and I want $ 5 million.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is going to be a really hard
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  Speaker 3: thing to prove, but welcome Katie to The Real Housewives
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  Speaker 3: of lawsuits, okay?
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  Speaker 2: Because That's what you get.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he probably would have just licked his wounds
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  Speaker 3: and said, I thought I I thought I mentioned that
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  Speaker 3: idea once to someone at a party. But what have
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  Speaker 3: I got now? And now he's like, oh, no, let
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  Speaker 3: me find a lawyer who will sue this woman who's
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  Speaker 3: on Real Housewives.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: They'll all shake out in court after hundreds of thousands
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  Speaker 3: of dollars of legal fees. Real Housewives of New York.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: The New Girls, which is not going to be called
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  Speaker 3: New Housewives of New York anymore. It's just going to
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: be Real Housewives of New York. I have never seen
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: a better cast photo, a better dressed, cohesive fashion extravaganza.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: The girls all look great. I mean, I hope that.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: The show is as juicy and interesting and pleasing to
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: the eye as this cast photo, because it makes me
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: so excited to go to New York, which I'll be
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: there October 11th at the Palladium, and interview these women
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: and see them and get chic black outfits all together
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: and slick back my hair.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: But I love it.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Selling Sunset is back with the Oppenheimer little tiny twins.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: And I'm excited for that show.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: That's going to be juicy with the real estate porn
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: and the fashion.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: But the thing I'm most excited for is this.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: TikTok-inspired show on Hulu, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: And I read the breakdown of all the girls. And, oh,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: my God, they're– almost all of them are either divorced
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: or on their second marriage. Lots of blended families. But
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: they're all, like, 24 and have three kids. And this
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: was the TikTok-ing craze where they got together and they
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: were cute and they did TikToks.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: And then the one girl.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Revealed, like, they were doing– soft swapping where they would
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: like make out and go to like second or third
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: base with someone that wasn't their spouse, but they would
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: do it next to their husband. It's like, you know
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: how like certain really religious people were like, well, we
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: only side hug until we're married. This was like a
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: version of that, but for swinging. And they're going to
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: reveal it all on the show.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: So very excited for that.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Brad Pitt is saying AA got mad at him for
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: him revealing he was an AA. And he's like, well,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: why don't you want the advertising? I'm not saying who
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: is in my group, but they're like, well, you're supposed
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: to be anonymous.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Very bizarre.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I would call that out, too. I'd be like, what
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: do you want, people? I just said it's working for me.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: He said he really had a problem his whole life
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: with it. He's been sober for a while now. He
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: has this new girlfriend and just enjoying their life. Of course,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: his issues with Angelina Jolie continue. Unfortunately, the kids, the
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: six kids that they shared, I think only one boy, Knox,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: still has Pitt in his last name. I believe all
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: three of the girls have removed Pitt from their name
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: and are just Jolie because their last name was Jolie Pitt.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: And the boys, the two older boys, Maddox and Pax,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think have anything to do with them so
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: that's kind of sad and maybe they can work that
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: out too.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: The car is beautiful Where did you end up going
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: for it?
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with They have
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch What's it called?
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: It's Dune ADL Where?
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: There's an accent on the E.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Do you mean... Yes, I got it on Done Deal Cars. Lift, please.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: You going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: No.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Done Deal Cars.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks... and yet somehow have found a
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: the Emmys and I have police complaints filed against me.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: what would you.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: Do if it was given back? Where did that need
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: come from where you thought that you had to succeed
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: in order to feel loved?
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work debt.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: I need a home debt.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: What happens next?
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: When I came in, he started crying. Everybody in life
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: encounters hardships. What defines them is not those hard moments
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: that they go through. It's about what happens next.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: I decided to risk it all.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, now for my very juicy interview with Margaret Joseph.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: She answers every question about Teresa Louie, Jackie, Dolores, the
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: future of the show. She didn't hold back on anything.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I asked her about timelines. I asked her about the
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: other women.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: In Louie's past. And it was a really interesting conversation.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: It is a Zoom.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: We filmed at our house. We both look great. My
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: background is my kitchen. And I'm going to tell you
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: right now, I have an issue with my fridge. It
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: looks like shit. NeNe Leakes would be absolutely horrified if
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: she sees this Zoom. What happened was is I have
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: a big freezer and a big fridge that are stainless
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: steel that come together. The freezer broke. We finally got
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: what we thought was going to match the side.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: It isn't.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: It's a different size. So it looks like the handles
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: are like this. You're going to think you're having an
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: optical illusion. You're going to call your friends and say,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: what the hell is wrong with Heather's fridge?
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Relax.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: We ordered another side. It's going to be paired up.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: That's because, you know, I read every comment on the YouTube.
• 22:29
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• 22:30
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• 22:31
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• 22:43
  Speaker 2: All right, here we go with this interview. Hello and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: welcome to Juicy Scoop.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I have returned guests, but you know her best as
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Margaret Josephs, the star of Walmart products, so many different things,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: married to a plumber, likes.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: To screw with a plumber, and star of the Real
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Housewives of New Jersey. How are you, Margaret?
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: Oh, fabulous, Heather. So happy to be back with you.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: You look stunning. I'm fresh off a plane. I'm so sorry.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I smell like a plumber right now.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: You look great.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, so let's talk about, because I've covered the show
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: a lot on Juicy Scoop, and you had an unconventional
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: reunion in which you were put into two different rooms,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: two different teams. We've got Teresa, Jennifer Aiden, and Jackie
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: on one side. Dolores, just like the poster, is sort
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: of in the middle, but she sits in that room.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: And then in the room, in the other room was you,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Melissa Gorga and Jen Fessler and Rachel Fuda and Danielle.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: So, you know, I've been reading all the comments and
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I guess they didn't really, people didn't really enjoy the
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: watch back very much. They would have preferred to have
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: a traditional reunion.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: How did you feel?
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: I would have preferred a traditional reunion, clearly. You know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: people say a lot of reunions about resolution. Resolution doesn't
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: always mean making up, in my opinion. Resolution is getting
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: your feelings out and resolving that there is no forward
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: movement with certain people and certain people need to get
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: their feelings out and be heard.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: So I think a reunion would have been fabulous, but,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: you know, clearly... There wasn't one. So I was disappointed
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: there wasn't a reunion.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: As far as resolution goes, this has become a thing
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: that I've heard in the last couple of years in
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: describing the franchises in general. The shows are about conflict
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: and resolution. And Why does it have to be about conflict? Well,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: it never was in the beginning. It never was when
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: we first started watching these shows. It wasn't about conflict.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: It was about people's interesting lives. And the women happened
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: to know each other and they would counsel each other
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: and we'd see different things and we'd see them laugh
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: and go, you know, get drunk in a bush together.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: But it wasn't all this like conflict conflict. I, you know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I agree with you.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: When I first got on the show, I didn't even
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: believe that women fight like that. Listen, I've had arguments,
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: petty arguments with my girlfriends and things like that.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: And then, you know, we make up two seconds later,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: you know, misunderstandings.
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: The conflict that has been on our show is so insane.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: In my opinion, I can't believe it's happening. It's like
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: it's like nonsense. It's it's absolute ridiculous. Who gets that
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: deep into this stuff? Um, and, and honestly, like, just say,
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: just for argument's sake, if you, if you don't like
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: your girlfriend's boyfriend or husband, you know, you can have
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: an emotion, a conversation about it where people don't get
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: so hysterical.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, so let's get into that because the
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: real conflict that has happened between you and Teresa is
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Teresa's belief.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: That you set out to try to.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Destroy her life and her marriage to her second husband, Louis.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: And she has this unwavering belief that that was your
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: intention from the start. Before we get into explaining it,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: one thing that I have been thinking about, take out
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: the cameras, take out You really are just women.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: That know each other.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: And your girlfriend, Teresa, who didn't really have a great
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: first husband, definitely questionable on fidelity, questionable on financial situations
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: in which she went away to prison for a year.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Now she's back and she's all excited about this guy, okay?
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: And you and maybe your other girlfriends go, I got
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: a DM, which can happen in people who are not
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: on TV. I got a DM from a former girlfriend
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: or a friend of a girlfriend who's like, hey, I
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: know your girl Teresa is dating this guy. He's my
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: ex-boyfriend or my friend's ex-fiance. And you should be aware
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: because of a couple things. Now, no cameras.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: If that happened to me, probably the first thing I would.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Do is call a mutual friend and say- Okay, I
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: know Teresa's like super excited and I have to say
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: he was super nice to me when we all went
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: to dinner.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Yes, and he can be personable.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: So in setting that stage, I think people are not
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: realizing that that is a very common thing, especially with
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Dirty John and people being on their second marriage and
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: being over 50 and being in this world where you
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: can find out everybody.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Wait, let me tell you something. When I was with Joe,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: it happened to me.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: I was first with Joe and my friend, and this
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: is not why we're not friends anymore. We're not friends anymore.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Cause she decided not to talk to me. She was mad.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: I got married and didn't tell her. Um, she was like,
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: we don't know this guy. Why would you be with him?
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: He, you know, my business was very successful at the time.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: Um, so, you know, it was before my lawsuits though, even.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: And, uh, she was like, how do.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: We know this guy doesn't want you for money? How
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: do we know, you know, this, that, and the other thing?
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: I said to my girlfriend at the time, I was like,
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: he's successful in his own right. Not, not just because
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: he's the plumber and I didn't want him just as
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: a plumber, but he don't, you know, Joe, we don't
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: really discuss.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: He owns apartments, things like that, you know, with his family.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: It was, you know, all things. And I just said,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: he doesn't.
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: And I had tons of phone calls.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Well, my decorator said he's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: I had tons of phone calls. This one calling me,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: that one calling. You know, they were concerned. They were,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: they were worried, but it didn't cause me to have
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: like a hemorrhage and say, you know, you're the worst friend.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: You don't want me to be happy. You know, that,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: that didn't come into my mind.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: So let's go over exactly.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: And Joe's friends, just so you know, one of Joe's
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: friends said to him about me, she's high maintenance. Look
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: at her.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: I heard about her. Why would you be with her?
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: And Joe's still good friends with him.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Right. In the beginning of a relationship, you're not married yet.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I understand people keep their mouths shut when there's children involved.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: They didn't have a child together. So I can see
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: why you're.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Like, and so. now behind, there's a lot that happened, obviously,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: that we don't see.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Which is happening more and more on these shows, which
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I think is frustrating for the producers and frustrating for
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Bravo and most frustrating for the fans. Because we, you know,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: whether it's conversations that happened or lawsuits that happened or,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: you know, things behind the scenes with these bloggers and,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: you know, it's only grown with people doing kind of
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: what I do or writing things or whatever. So let's
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: get into a little bit in clarifying when they first
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: started dating and your first, your first opinion. And when
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: you may have heard rumblings from exes, disgruntled exes, which
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: everybody has a disgruntled ex, otherwise they wouldn't be an ex.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: I will say when they first started dating, I was
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: thrilled for her. I was so excited. She told me,
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: how great he was. The Gorgas told me how great
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: he was. I was nothing but thrilled for her. That
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: is 2021, by the way. I wanted everything good for her.
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: The person who I had no idea didn't want everything
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: good for her. Well, I knew she didn't want anything
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: good for her was Jackie, but I didn't, I didn't care.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? I was like, they moved
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: past it. I thought nothing of it. Then, you know,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: whatever it was, the thing started to come out online.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Right before we started filming. Right when we started filming, actually.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Was that before.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: The Instagram account posted the Warrior video from a couple
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: of years prior?
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: It was, no, the Instagram account posted the Warrior video
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: in 2021.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: And that's when him and Teresa got together, really. I
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: think so. They got together in 2021.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: He, or maybe they got together the year before, or
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: I can't, or the beginning of that year.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Their timeline that they said recently on a Carlos King
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: thing is so, you know, we, we.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Heard her story. I was on a walk with a girlfriend.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I walked by a house.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: It was the summer before or whatever.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: They got, he, he saw her, his son goes, Oh,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: that woman is on Real Housewives of New Jersey. He's like,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: she's attractive, whatever. He chased her, talked to her, gave
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: her his number. Gave her his number. She was like, what?
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: And then her friend convinced her to call him. And then,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: according to them, they talked and dated for four months
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: before they became intimate.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Now, the other part I heard is.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: I don't believe that for two seconds, but whatever.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: The other part I heard is that he was living with.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was... So he has... So
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: he has a next wife.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: He has a next wife.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: He has two Vanessa's.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Were they back to back significant relationships?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: And then, but there was a different, a different person
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: not named Vanessa that he allegedly was living with when
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: he saw Teresa walk by the house.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: That was Vanessa. Another Vanessa.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: So one Vanessa was an engagement.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: One Vanessa, the engagement.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: And then there was another Vanessa with dark hair who
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: then went out with Dolores's ex.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Vanessa number two dated Dolores's ex-boyfriend, the doctor?
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. See, there's so much good stuff that
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: we missed.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Why couldn't this all be on the show?
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: It was mentioned. It was mentioned.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: It was mentioned, but it's a lot to follow. It's
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: a lot to.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Follow, but I want to just clarify a few things.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: Yes. So that, see, the reason I even found out
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: about this, Jackie told me that.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: She goes, there's two Vanessa's. Now, I had no idea
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: about that. I was like, how does she know there's
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: two Vanessa's? Yes, there's two Vanessa's. There's two Vanessa's.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: The reason she knew that, which I didn't find out
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: till not that long ago, was that she had both
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: Vanessa's at her home.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: That was what it was. Both Vanessa's had gone to
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: her home.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Together at the same time?
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: So they're buddies. Both of Vanessa's are friends.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Vanessa and Vanessa 2.0 were both at her home.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: So they are friendly as two exes that come together.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: And one of those Vanessa's is the one who became
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: a therapist specialist, specializing in dating narcissists.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, she was a therapist before.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: And that's the same one that did, I'm doing a
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: charity event where I run in my wedding dress.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes.
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: And I think that was before, you know, Louis became
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: a public figure.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: So, so somehow he goes to this Christian, how to
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: be a better man event and, I don't know.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: If it's so, you know, I don't know what's so
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Christian about it, truthfully, but whatever.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's not. I don't know. But I understand.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I would call it toxic masculinity. I mean, you know.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I understand the man who lives in Newport who runs
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: it because I was interested.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: So I started following him.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Well, that's a that's a whole other story.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: So he has this kind of empowerment. weekend.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Hey, to be fair, there's a ton of empowerment female
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: weekends that anyone can go to right now that involves
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: yoga and whatever.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: So this thing was, okay, so now part of.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: The program, just like a religious retreat, is writing a
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: letter and saying it to a camera to, I guess,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: the woman that you want to get back with.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: And by the way, I just want to tell you this,
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: that that video was not to either of the Vanessa's.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: So it was to a previous fiance.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Before the two Vanessa's. Yes.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: So from what we know, he he had the wife
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: that he had the two sons with.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Yes. And then there was Paula.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Then there was a woman named Paula, but that's not
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the one he was declaring his love to or it was?
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: No, that was. That was the video. Okay.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Then he had Vanessa who is engaged to, and then
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: he had Vanessa that was just a girlfriend.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Yes. But the Paula was also engaged to.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: He was engaged to the second Vanessa.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: No, he was engaged to Paula.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: And then he was engaged to Vanessa. And then he
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: was the second Vanessa was the girlfriend.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Got it. So Paula was the one who received this video. Yes.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: And Paula, who's, I don't want to, you know, she's
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: not a public figure, but I mean, Hey, if you're
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: on Instagram, whatever, but I don't know her last.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Name or anything.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: I don't, I don't know her last name.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: So let's not try to find it either. Leave her alone.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: But anyway, so she, for whatever reason, somebody probably found her.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Some blogger probably found her. She probably was enjoying sharing content.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: some scoop about her ex, who's now becoming a public figure.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: And Cher somehow gets that video to somebody who then
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: gets it to somebody who then posts it.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: And I personally thought it was just kind of funny.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I didn't think it made him look like, I even
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: said this, I'm like, it was funny.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I actually did a parody. I was on a vacation
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: with my girlfriends.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: I know, I liked it. I remember.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: We did a parody because I was like, I'm going
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: to be a better wife and I'm going to, you know,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: make more than just a sad chicken dinner. And like,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: I made all these funny things about it. I really
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: didn't think that it made him look at all.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, if you want to look on the
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: other side of it, it was someone who.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Was trying to improve themselves. It didn't work out with
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: this woman. He was trying to improve himself.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Now, up and.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Adam had shared an alleged letter that he wrote that
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: got out there and I don't know where it came
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: from in which he had to, uh, list a lot
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: of negative things about himself in order to be accepted
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: into this weekend program.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: So that, I haven't read that letter.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I haven't, that thing is a little more, um, I
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: think bad than just him having a sunburn pouring his
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: heart out to a girl.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: When I saw that video, I was like, wow, it's
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: a little weird.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Um, you know what I said, just explain it. You
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: know what I mean?
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Don't, but.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: It was very, you know, Teresa was like, don't bring
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: light to it. Don't bring light to it. It was
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: all over the internet. You know, we've been on the
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: show long enough. You just come out with your dirty laundry.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: You get ahead of it. We're all human. Things happen.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Not a big deal. She immediately was like, you did this.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: You're trying to hurt Louie. I'm not trying.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: I wasn't trying to hurt Louie under any circumstance. I
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: do want to say one thing though. The one thing
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: I did know prior to that video was the pizza
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: gate with the Gorgas.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: And I kept my mouth shut.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: And can you just refresh people on the pizza gate?
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: And I knew all about it. And Melissa and Joe
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: said to me, please keep it quiet. And I didn't
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: want to hurt Teresa and Louie's relationship. And I was
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: there for the whole thing. And I was like, I'm
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: not going to say one word because it's a new
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: relationship and I want their relationship to work out. So
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: I was actually being a good friend to Teresa. I
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: didn't want the world to know what happened. And Melissa
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: and Joe really wanted to work out for them.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: And they're like, forget it. We're going to bury it.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I knew about the pizza gate too.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Somebody in the Gorga world had told me and was like,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: swore me to secrecy. And because you see that right after,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: you know, Teresa got home from being away in prison,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: the Gorgas.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: And her were getting along. They were going out to dinner.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: They were having fun. She was like, set me up.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: I saw her then too. I wanted all good things
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: for her. She was a different person then. Do you
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying?
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: And so then all of a sudden we're hearing like,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: you know, oh, there's a big rift between the Gorgas
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: and Teresa and Louie.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: And I was like, how did that happen?
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: And so this person told me, swore no secrecy and explained,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: this is how it was explained to me. Joe Gorga
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: had an idea that, To do a subscription where you
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: would get this pizza, homemade pizza oven. And then like
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: every month, like food would automatically come, which there's a
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: million companies like that. And you could order the same
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: pizza toppings every time, or you could do different and
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: experiment like a wine club.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: And I thought that's a really brilliant idea. And for
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: these two Italians to get together. Yes.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for colleges and things like that.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it could be really fun and great.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: And so what was told to me was they were
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: all excited to do this together. And then Joe Gorga
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: was blindsided when he found out that there was a
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: whole photo shoot going on with just Teresa's daughters and
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: them doing this.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: And he was like, what the hell happened?
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: And then it just went away.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: And I did go, well, why did it go away?
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Like, could we give a little credit to Louis for
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: killing the deal for himself as well?
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Like, he didn't go forward with it. Did he not
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: go forward with.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: It because he wanted to save the relationship, try to
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: save the relationship? Or did he not go forward with
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: it because without Joe Gorga, he couldn't?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Like, that's what I, because she has said- he lost $ 250.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: 000, uh, Louie by just going like this and hoping
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: that they could be friends again.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Cause this is all before the wedding. What is your
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: understanding of that?
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: Um, I was there when the phone call happened, uh,
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: cause Melissa called me very upset that Joe was having
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: a freak out.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Um, my Joe and I drove over there, uh, I
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: heard the screaming.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: Louie was like, this is for your sister. We'll give
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: you 5% of the company. Joe's like, I thought of
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: the company. It's my nephew who's importing the pizza.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Ovens for you.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: The nephew is on Melissa's side.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah. You did all of this behind our back. You've
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: ghosted my phone calls and now you're going to give
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: me 5% of the company that, you know, was my idea.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: And I started, no, we're not doing this. you know,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: and they had changed the name.
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: It was going to be like no-nos and it came
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: out skinny Italian or whatever it was. They had boxes
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: made the jewels. And then Louie's like, all right, we'll
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: give you 10%. You know, and Joe's like, we're not
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: doing it. And I just, I, you know, I was like,
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: let them do it.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: It's so stupid.
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, they wrote gluten-free on the oven, the sample,
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: which I thought was even funnier. Who writes gluten-free on
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: an oven? It was kind of, it was kind of
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: funny when Joe showed me the prototype and I was like,
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: I go, just do your own.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: I go, forget it.
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: Just, just let it, just let it fly. And, and
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: he was like, it's such a slap in the face.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: He was just like, so hurt, you know?
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Because he was excited to have a clean slate with
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: her and move forward with his husband.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: And the other Joe had had troubles over the years.
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: And then Teresa and then they were like, just forget it.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: I'm going to eat it. I'm going to this. I
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: think the pizza. And that was it.
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: And they just like and then Louie's like, I'll eat
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: the pizza ovens. I don't think it was $ 250, 000. I
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: think that was a gross exaggeration. It might have been 150,
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: might have been 100, maybe 100, whatever it was. It
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: just went away. And, you know, I, they gave them out.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: And that was it. And they were like, neither of
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: us are going to do it. And it's done. So
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: they agreed not to talk about it. And I was like, fine,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: no one's going to talk about it. I never mentioned
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: it to the, anybody I went on, I, you know
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: what I mean?
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: We went to filming. We're like, we're not bringing this up.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: There's going to be no conversation.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: You know what? I want her to be happy. Everything
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: else done. And immediately I you.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: Know, she starts accusing me because I am somebody who,
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: you know what?
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Something happened. The video came out. I was like, just
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: address it. Who cares?
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Immediately.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: She got hyper defensive. She was like, I'm not doing this.
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: That was also, you know, along with the Jennifer, I,
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: you know, I was, you know, I was fighting with
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: Jennifer Aiden. Cause you know, I mentioned about the cheating
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: scandal at that time. So she was like, you're trying
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: to hurt me. I was like, no, one's trying to
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: hurt you. No, one's trying to hurt you. Just, just
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: make your life easier.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Explain it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: And Louie got very aggressive with me. You know, I'm
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: not intimidating. You know, you can't intimidate me on your
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: best day. I was like, I see what's going on here.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: You know, no man acts like that.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: A couple of things. First, I want to say, I
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: think you're totally right about getting ahead of things. I've
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: done that in my own life.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Now, being a public figure, I've been like, I'm going
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: to share this so that if this ever comes back to,
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: you know, if this person ever wants to try to
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: say a different narrative, I said it first, which is very,
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: it's a lot easier to get your story out first
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: than defenders to then to defend a falsehood.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: So that's just very true. But also jumping over to Real.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Housewives of OC, there's this stupid storyline, which is kind
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: of funny. Did Heather Dubrow call the paparazzis when she
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: and Terry went to Disneyland?
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Because prior to that, there were some cheating rumors. I
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: And the photos are kind of funny and they talked
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: about it. And then this new girl comes and goes,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: I have proof that she did call. Well, on the
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: other episode, she brings it up to Terry and he goes,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: if there's a number, I want to call it. I
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: love being in the papers. Can we call it?
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: And I thought that was a brilliant way to be.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: At first she was defensive, but- To be like, look,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go on record and say I didn't
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: do it. But even if I did, who gives a fuck?
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: We're on a reality show. Do you think people that
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: would put their whole lives on a reality show don't
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: want to be photographed by the paparazzi?
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: We do.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Like, that's what you should say. Like, we all want
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: to be... photographed by the paparazzi and put it in
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: a magazine. We wouldn't be on TV being a reality
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: star if we didn't want that. And I just thought
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: that was a smart way to be. I would have
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: given Louie the similar advice to you. I would be like,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: embrace it and do it with funniness. Be like, I
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: tried to improve myself.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I tried to do it with this woman. It didn't
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: work out. I did love the program. I am a
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: better man because of it. If she chose to share
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: it years later, fine. I wish I'd worn sunscreen.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Exactly. Heather, I'm the same way you are. I came on,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: you know, right on the show. I had an affair.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: I did this. I did that. You know, I've suffered
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: for this, you know, whatever it is.
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: You have to come on with all your blemishes. That's
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: what I was trying to say to them. I was
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: trying to explain that to Teresa. He got very aggressive,
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: diminished the women. I have crazy exes.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I have this.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: I have that.
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: You know, he could have came out like a superstar,
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: you know, and said exactly what you just said. And
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: that would have been it. That would have put it
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: to bed. But the hiding, the lying, the storming off,
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: the this, the that, accusing people, hiring bloggers, everything else,
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: it backfired. And then just doing aggressive things. And it just,
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: it went on a downward spiral.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: I think, which is why I always say, if I
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: had a friend, if they were doing a Real Housewives of,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: you know, whatever, Westlake Village, and I had friends that
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: were going to be chosen, I would give the advice
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: of get ahead of it all, be really honest, but
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: also just know that every single thing is going to
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: come out. I think he underestimated.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I think he thought of only one.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: What a non-experienced viewer sees, which is how fun it is.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Teresa is very successful. There's these fun opportunities that come.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: We can show what a great blended family we are,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: which I do believe they all seem to get along, whatever.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: That's what we see. That's what it appears to be.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: That's a hard thing to accomplish. And I just don't
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: think he thought about how.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: in this day and.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Age, how every thing comes up. Like there are just
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: women that watch this show. And I think it's predominantly women.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: That are strange, that are jealous, that don't have anything
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: to do, but they are fucking good on the computer,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: maybe as good as Bo Dietl.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: And they get into it and.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: They are so incredibly obsessed that to have one of
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: these people that they've watched on TV for 14 years
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: is now directly communicating with them, they'll they're like a
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: disciple in a mafia movie.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: They'll like do whatever is told by the Dom. And
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: that is what I.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Think happened with some of these these women, Melissa's old
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: nose and all this stuff that I've covered that were
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: clearly communicating with Teresa, Jennifer Aiden, and this attorney that
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: somehow felt it was in Teresa's best interest for him
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: somehow to get involved with storylines of the show, which
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I find very confusing.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: They wanted to change the narrative of the show. I
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: think they got involved with these um, bloggers. Uh, and
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: you know, it was, it's actually very sad because it's, they,
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: they ruined the atmosphere of everything that was fun about it.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: And it was the online attacks. I'm grateful to this.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: I think it's funny.
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: We're calling her Melissa's old nose, which is, I mean,
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: just that we've been calling it.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: That is kind of hysterical.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: When I don't know that there's, there's anybody on the
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: cast that has an original nose.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: So I know me, I never got my nose done. Me,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: I never got my nose done though. You know, the
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: teeth and a facelift, everybody's.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Had something done and most women that have a few
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: dollars do.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: Um, but yeah, every, you know, everything else has been
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: lifted and tucked, not a tummy, but you know, the
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: boobs have been.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Lifted and reduced. Um, but anyway, she, uh, I'm glad
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: she had to come to Jesus.
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: Moment because the blogger, the woman, yeah, the blogger, because
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: everything I've been saying for the last two years, I
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: knew to be true because I was like, no one's
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: doing this. Um, just cause they're a fan and she
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: was working for them. And I think that's, that's the
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: sad part. Listen, everybody answers their.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: Fans, the blog, you know, a blogger, you know, but.
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: To actually leak information, say you're helping my family do this.
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: I have screenshots of them saying, go after Margaret's Walmart business.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: It's all been out there. Um, that's sick.
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: I never want to hurt someone's livelihood. Um, I never
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: want to see someone suffer financially. I mean, there's people
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: that I obviously cannot, um, be around and stomach on
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: the show. I never want to see their family hurt,
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: nothing like that. And I think that they could take
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: it to that level, you know, says something about their character.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, something has gone wrong. This is what's.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Confusing and you can hopefully clear it up as someone
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: who watched the show. You come on the show and
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: you and Teresa are good.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: She loses her mom.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: You're like, I thought of doing this beautiful thing. Then
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: you start having, and you were friends with Danielle Staub.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: And then Danielle Staub somehow, you know, somehow thinks that
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: you're What was that about? She thought you were like
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: trying to ruin her new marriage or something?
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: No, because I thought, again, good friend that I am.
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: I see her not being good with Marty and his kids.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: And that's true.
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: And I said to her, I said, you need this marriage. This,
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: you know, is not good the way you're acting. I
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: said to her off camera and I go, cut the shit.
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: You know, I go, I don't like what's going on here.
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: I said, you're making a big mistake. If you need
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: a sugar daddy, you give sugar. And that's what she,
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: and I said, and he's not a bad guy.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: He's a good person. You've got to stop. And she
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: didn't like that. And I meant it.
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: And I just, and I was like, this is not
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: the way you run your life. I said, you, you
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: need this marriage to work out and be better to him.
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: He had an elderly mother. He was a good person.
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: His kids were lovely. She was always saying his kids
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: weren't nice. I think she probably regrets it. And I
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: was being a good friend. I would say that to
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: any of my friends. It's nothing I haven't said to my,
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: any friends. If I think they're being a douche to
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: their husband, if I'm being a douche to my husband,
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: you know, sometimes Lexi's like, you know, don't be so
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: rough on Joe, you know, that's what you do. And
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: I did care for Danielle. She moved to Englewood to
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: be by me, literally a few blocks from me.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: And you have a conflict sort of, At the wedding
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: where your bridesmaid, correct?
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: I said this to her.
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: Off camera and then she got real bitchy with me
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: and I was like, you're making a mistake, but whatever
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: that happens, you know.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: She does, she does get married.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: And then they do break up and that's when she
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: pulled your, your ponytail.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: They were having issues. Yeah.
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: And that's, I think, yeah, they're already having, yes. Then
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: she felt they're already having issues. She blames me for
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: the breakup. No one, I can never blame anybody for
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: a break of a marriage. I can't break up someone's marriage.
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: I wasn't sleeping with your husband. I did not tell
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: him to leave you. You, you did that all yourself.
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: And she, um, You know, and she's telling, you know,
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: Teresa all these things at the time.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: And I, whatever it was.
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: And Teresa, you know, goes along with, yeah, you know,
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: Teresa says, yeah, pull her hair.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Now, in defense of Teresa, which I can't believe I'm
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: saying this. She was extreme. She didn't think she was
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: going to be found out. That's the first thing. She
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: was extremely remorseful. But like, if she could tell Danielle
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: to jump off a bridge, she doesn't have to do it.
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: Danielle is the one who pulled my ponytail.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Just because you tell someone to do something doesn't mean.
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: They have to do it. But Teresa, you know, Danielle
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: would do anything to please Teresa. It got in her head,
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: whatever it was. And, you know, Teresa orchestrated it. I
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: forgave her after that. I was in shock she did it.
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: Teresa and I were good. I was defending her. You
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: saw my face when I found it out.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: I was in shock.
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: And we made up after that. I don't hold a grudge.
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: I'm not a grudge holder. You know what I'm saying?
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: That's just, that's not my nature. If I forgive someone,
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I forgive somebody. I don't need to, like, carry on
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: about it. After that, we're fine. Everything's great.
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: You know, to me, I thought everything was great. She's like,
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: I'm going to make it up to you, honey. I'm
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: going to show you how much I love you. I'm
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: so sorry. She would call and check on me. Not enough, but,
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: you know, enough, you know, in her opinion.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: You know, to me, everything was fine. I thought nothing
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: The whole Jackie thing comes out, you know, the year later,
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: the cheating scandal. you know, we still went away to
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: Lake George. Jackie was mad at me, whatever it was.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: And let me just say, the whole Jackie scandal is
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Teresa says on camera, I heard a rumor that he
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: gets together with people at a gym. The reason I
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: thought that was extra juicy is because I thought it
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: alluded to a male Jim.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: So I thought she was alluding like a double scoop. Okay. And,
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: but again, it was just a.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: Rumor I heard, which I was like, okay, now we're into,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: there were plenty, they did the same thing.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: On Real Housewives of OC.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: I heard a rumor that, Kelly Dodd did a train,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: the most ridiculous thing. And that became a storyline. And
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: I believe sometimes these veteran housewives throw out something because
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: they're like, I got.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Nothing going on. None of my kids are getting married.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting divorced. I'm not pregnant. What can I do?
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: And I get it. I get there's a formula to
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: this now.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: And And unfortunately, you know, they I don't know if
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: it's the producers are telling you it's boring.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: It's boring. We're going to get just started.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, that was our first wall cast. So that
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: was the beginning of the scene right after COVID.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: She has said now said.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: I heard it from your husband, Joe, came home from
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: a dinner with the men and told me. Louie, who
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: then told her, who then said it. So therefore they
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: say it actually came from you.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: What, how do you answer that? This is, I think
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: it's the funniest thing I've ever heard. First of all,
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: I don't go to the gym. That's a fact. Everybody
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: in my town knows I've never even been to the gym.
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: So the funny thing is they said, her story is,
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: you know, then she changed it because she had, you know,
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: can't take responsibility for everything. She said she heard it
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: from her brother, Joe Gorga, who must have heard it
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: from Melissa, who must have heard it from me because
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: I live in the Tenafly area.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: You know, they tried everything to dig that up.
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: They said, you know, they called my friend Serena from Tenafly.
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: You know, that was the big word going around to
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: see if Serena ever heard it. You know, they were
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: trying to make this rumor be true. I had never
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: heard that rumor. I mean, I was in shock when
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: she said it at that party. I was like, oh,
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: what's going on here now?
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: And to this day, to this day, there's been no
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: proof of it at all.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: No proof whatsoever. There's never, you know, been proof of
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: something like that. of Evan doing anything like that. So
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: with that being said, I never said that. If I
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: heard that Jackie is such a fragile character. You think
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have said it to her? Jackie, holy fuck,
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: I heard this. You know, we better get it. You know,
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: we better squashes. I would have said it off camera.
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: I would never do something like that. If I heard
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: something like that, you know, I would know Jackie's reaction.
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: I would have like said immediately like, holy crap, I
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: heard this. There's no way would I be gossiping, like
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: saying this to this and this and not tell Jackie Goldschneider.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: That's a fact.
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: Jackie would have never had that reaction if she knew
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: ahead of time and I would have told her ahead
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: of time.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: So that's the first thing. Didn't come out of my mouth.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: This is some.
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: Fictitious nonsense that, you know, Teresa had to fabricate because
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: she can't take responsibility for her behavior. Two, the way
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: Jackie handled it is no way I would handle it.
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: And she even wrote it in her book. I told her,
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: drop it, make it go away. Be like, you're sick
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: in the head. You wish you were getting the dick
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: I'm getting, you know, forget it. And you know, like
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: if someone said like, like she always, you know, my husband,
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: you know, is cheating.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: I would laugh it off.
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: It's so ridiculous, but it affected her so much. It
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: became the entire season.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: So then, so then you, so then now we know
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: because she was pissed at Teresa, she then invited the
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: two Vanessa's over a couple of years ago.
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: No, right after.
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: Right after, before we even went to the cheating reunion.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Wearing all white, okay?
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: Before we even addressed the cheating reunion wearing all white,
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: those two women.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: Were at her house.
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: And.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: And she says now, I was upset with Teresa.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: So, yes, I met with these women to collect any
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: kind of dirt that I could put away for a
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: rainy day. If she ever tries to come at me again,
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: I can throw this out while the cameras are rolling.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Now, we don't know what dirt she got. Yes, we do.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: What is the dirt?
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: Well, I managed every dirt that she got. She seemed
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: to know about, I mean, anything she seemed to know
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: about ahead of time.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: I never knew there was two Vanessa's.
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: She's the first one who told me she would, she
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: would send, uh, you know, Oh, look at Louie when
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: he was heavy, you know, he was much heavier at
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: one point.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: I go, that's very.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Interesting that Jackie uses that as a negative thing. I
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: know she said that she struggled with eating disorders and
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: being that she's very anti-ozympic um, that then she's going
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: to mock someone who's now very physically fit.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: That's rude.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: And then she, she.
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: Sent that to me and I was just like, where'd
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: you get these photos? Oh, I, I, you know, someone
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: sent them to me.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: You know, things like that, but I put nothing on
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: it because I was like, Oh.
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: You know, where'd you get these photos? I, you know,
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: I was naive. Shockingly, I was naive to the fact
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: I was like, it never even crossed my mind because
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: I don't think like that.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: I don't, you know, everyone's like Margaret has an arsenal. No,
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: Margaret is.
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: Smart, pays attention, could connect the dots and puts two
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: and two together.
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: Do I know a lot of people? I live around
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: here for a long time. Can I figure out how
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: to get things done?
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely. That's, that's not an arsenal.
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: You know, did I hold my cards when I found
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: out a week ahead of time that Jackie Goldschneider.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: Had them at her house?
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: I didn't know the whole time.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: I found out a week ahead of time of that meeting.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: That's true. She duped me too. Listen, she was smart enough.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: She always told me she's going to get Teresa back
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: if it's the last thing she does. And she did.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: She stuck it right up her butt.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: I don't blame her. She wanted, you know, to get
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: Teresa back and her to feel the pain that Jackie felt.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: And she did. So that I think not because she
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: had her at her house.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: It makes me believe that she told these exit, whatever
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: it is, the proper places to leak this information.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, I do.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Because I do remember seeing the the photo of.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Louie's former appearance.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: I do remember seeing that on one of these things
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: that I follow and I don't remember what it was.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: So you think she did gather that dirt and did,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: because we did hear different stories. We did hear about
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: the slash tires of some ex. We did hear about
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: this and that.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: And I'm not, listen, I'm not blaming Jackie. I'm blaming
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: her for what she did to me. I don't care
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: what she did to them. She hated them.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: And what do you feel Jackie, what do you feel
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: Jackie did to you?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: What she did to me is she watched the entire
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: time of Teresa's saying, you did this, you leaked this,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: you did that.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: She knew for a fact, I didn't like it. Her
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: and I spoke all the time. I was like, I'm
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: an open book. I'd be like, what is going on here?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: I go, oh my God.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: Like, would we talk about when something got out there?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: I'd be like, oh my God, did you see that?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: You know, things like that. I mean, I discouraged her
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: from doing things, not about that.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: About other things.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: I was like, that's not my life. I don't want
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: to see something bad happen to someone.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: Because you know why?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: Bad things happen to bad people eventually. They burn themselves
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: on their own. I don't need to be involved in it.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: I don't want to be involved in it. I don't
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: want to see the demise of people because eventually they
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: do it to themselves. And You know, that's and that's
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: the whole thing. So we would talk about talk about it.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: And she would say, oh, my God, did you see this?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: Did you see this? And that's that's the way it was.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: So I would never have the I don't have time
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: to deal with leaking things.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: And I do feel now knowing that she kept that
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: her card so close to herself that she met with them.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: They were at her house. And I would always wonder,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: how did she know these things? But it didn't click
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: to me. It just didn't.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: And so then do you think when she got demoted
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: as just a friend, then she was fortunately for her
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: in Teresa's good graces and then just was like, well,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: this is the way I can stay on the show
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: is to stay really good friends with her.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: I think when she got demoted, she goes, I don't
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: want her to ever hurt me. I don't know what
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: they're capable of. I don't want them to ever do
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: anything to me. Um, I don't need these headaches. And
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: I was like, what are they going to do?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: Who cares? I go, what, what are they, you know,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: there's going to be a horse's heading in bed. What's
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: the story? You know, I go, stop being such a puss. Um, yeah, I,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: but it's like, keep your friends closer, enemies closer. And
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: I guess, you know, Jackie played, played that game.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: And so then, but you started to feel the weirdness
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: because you were like, you're kind of ghosting me. You
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: didn't give me, um, a pre, um, a pre-published version
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: of your book.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: And I bought it.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: I also bought it on Amazon and I, and then
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: I got the influencer kit with everybody else, but not
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: the same time the other girls did.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: And so you started to feel that there was a,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: something weird happening. Yes.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: Yes. I think she was, um, you know, doing her plotting.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: I started.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: That was after you revealed on the next, um, So
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: you do attend the wedding.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: They have the big wedding two years ago. And you
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: go to that wedding.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: And then it's after that, and correct me if I'm wrong,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: it's after that that you start to realize that there's
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: this stuff going behind the scenes. We see him say
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: on camera, I got Bo Dietl. Biggest investigators got to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: file on.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: All of them.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: And explain the situation with the Walmart deal.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 6: Um, yeah, I go to the wedding, you know, and
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: we had filmed that F the thing of Polly. I
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: heard him say Bo Dietl. It didn't click to.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: Me what it meant. You know what I mean?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: He just said the name Bo Dietl, but it was
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: such a fast thing, you know, and then we see
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: the episodes of just like Bo D you know, Bo
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: Dietl is everything on you, you know, cause that was
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: filmed like the day after it was very crazy.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: Um, I find out all that stuff.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: Uh, And then I, you know, I was informed by someone,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: you know, with the Walmart deal who signed an affidavit
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: for me. There is police, you know, I did file. That's,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 6: that's a fact police reports about that, about harassment. Cause
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: I was like, this is crazy. He hired a smear campaign,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: you know, it was brought up at reunion to try
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: and smear my name. said he wants people to go
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 6: after my Walmart deal, contact Walmart executives and say negative
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: things about me. And even Bravo had to shut something
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 6: down that Melissa's old nose did admit to. She was
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 6: reaching out to sources saying things about me that weren't true.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: Well, that's a huge deal, having products in Walmart and
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: a huge, huge company. But we know now in my
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: level and even less, when people are mad at you,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: whether they're fans or whatever, they will get little armies
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: of peoples or bots or whatever, and they will write
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: to whatever, a podcast advertiser. I can't believe you're associated
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: with this person.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Blah, blah, blah. And if they get enough of them,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: they are like, You know, it's not that big of
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: a deal. We've cut ties with her.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: And people do lose deals because of an online campaign.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: Yours was a much larger, more calculated thing because it
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: is a larger deal. You weren't just, you know, making
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: two grand to wear some mascara.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: It's your whole thing.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: This is how I feed my family.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: This is a tremendous, tremendous deal that I have had.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: I've been in there since 2011. Huge.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: So now what, explain what happened with your son that
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: was featured on the show.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: I want to just, yeah, I just want to explain that,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: you know, it's very sensitive to my family and we
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: should try not to talk about it too much, but
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: I'm going to give you a quick, a week before
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: the reunion, the last reunion we filmed, a phone call
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: was made to him. Everyone's like, oh, Margaret showed the
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: police reports. No, I'm not going to, I'm not going to.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: do anything like that. The network has seen it. The
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: network has, uh, you know, production, um, executive in production
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: spoke to the police. I just want to make that clear. Um,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: my children, all my children have nothing to do with
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: the show.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: Don't even know the names of the people on the show.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: Don't watch the show. Don't have social media.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: I want to make, so no one would know his name,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: especially not Louie would not know where he works. Nothing
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: remotely like that. a call was made to his office,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: asked for him by name was he was called by
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: name and a threat was made to him. There was
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: a conversation. It wasn't just a phone call. Um, he
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 6: Googled the person's name cause he didn't know who it
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: was when he saw it come up on the thing. Um,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: cause when he confronted him and said, I see your
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: phone number, he said, Oh, wrong number. After the threat
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: was made. I'm not like, I'm going to kill you.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: Nothing remotely like that. Just like I'm the guy you
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: have to worry about. Uh, Googled the name, found out
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: who it was and called up.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: And said, you know, it was not too happy, came home.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: We called NBC. We had conversations and everything else. And
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: it was not pretty.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: The police were at the house. Everyone's trying to look
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: up the police reports. They were filed in a very
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: specific way. They're not going to be made public.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: And that was it.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: I like to keep my family private. And it wasn't good.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: You can easily see I was nowhere near him. I
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: did not film near him. I did not use him
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: as a storyline as Mr. Ruelas is trying to say.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: I didn't want it, but I did want it to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: be clear. It was true. It was known.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: Everybody knows that we said at reunion, I didn't want
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: it discussed again. I wanted it to go away.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: And that was it.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: I wasn't making a big deal. I wasn't going to
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: file charges against him. I just wanted it dropped. Teresa
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: dragged it into this season to constantly try and clear
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: her husband's name. Well, you didn't do a really good
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: job when he comes on screen to say he wants
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: my family to suffer and my son to suffer.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: How did you feel about the uh, Instagram story written
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: out on the orange background?
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Apology.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: That's not an apology. Apology is apology.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: Blaming me saying he was lied on, uh, you know,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: all these nonsensical things.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: It's not an apology.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: Um, it was, I, he was trying to save himself
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: and that's not an apology.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: And I think it just speaks to his character of
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: who he is to say something like that. And I don't,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: I don't say those things and I've never wished ill
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: upon them. I'm one of the few, you know, Melissa,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 6: I love the way they contrast and Melissa saying she
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: wishes nothing bad for them. She only wishes good things.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: And I've said that all along, go on your merry
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: way and have nothing to do with me. Not meaning like,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: you know what?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: I don't, I don't want to talk, you know, I'm
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: talking about them now because we're talking about the show.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: I haven't wished ill on you. Go be successful. You
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: started this Vinavia.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: Good luck. I mean, hello. You know, and everything else.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: Go have your life. Don't be so obsessed with my life.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: Don't talk about my children. Don't talk about anything. I
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: don't talk about yours.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: Don't mention my family and things like this. They have
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: a little obsession with me. And I think their character
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: has been shown. I think that's what it is. I
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: think Andy Cohen said it best. That was the darkest
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: moment on Housewives.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: And I thought the moment when we see that in
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: the watch back, the last episode, the reaction of everybody.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: So nobody knew that until they saw that, right? Because
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: they held you back. You guys weren't able to watch
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: it on your own. So the reaction, everybody had the
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: same reaction, like what the fuck? And Dolores is sitting
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: there and she's like, Teresa, like that is bad. And
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Teresa's first thing is like, what Margaret's hurt my daughters.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: And she's like, it doesn't matter. Like you got to
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: admit that wasn't good that he said that you've got
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: to admit. And she's like, I, and she's like, you know,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: you're supposed to be my, for whatever it is. And
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: you see that moment where Dolores is.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Like, I have had your back a billion times.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: I have, I think, not shared the story, which I
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: think was smart about whatever happened with why her son
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: initially loved working for Louie.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: And then no longer worked for Louie. And I understand
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: why I.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: Was, By the way, I understand she wants to protect
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: her family.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: I would keep it quiet.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: I would keep, because you don't, there's two sides to
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: every story and it doesn't want to be like, he
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: was not good or Louie wasn't good. It was the
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: time to work out. And my son has asked me
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: not to talk about it. So please don't talk about it. And,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: but at that point she's like, but Teresa, like I'm
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: being a friend, like you've got to say, yeah, I don't,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: you know where that came from. That's just wrong or whatever. And, um,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: And so now let's talk about going forward. Fans are
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: saying what they want, what they don't want. Keep this one,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: lose this one, get three new people, start from scratch.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: What are your feelings about your future and the future
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: of New Jersey Housewives?
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: Listen, my future is I'm very blessed financially.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: I do have a Walmart business. You know, I have
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: a new business with Soiree. You know, I have a
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: very big life outside the show.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: I love the show. I'm not going to say, you know,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: Up until like really this year was very, very hard.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: You know, the last two years have been a little rough.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: I don't want it to be that. It can't continue
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: the way it is. But I think. If it could
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: be with a real friend group, which you could see
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: that our room was very much a friend group and Dolores,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 6: that's magnificent. But if it can't, you know, it's up
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: to the Bravo gods. Like I say, it's up to
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: the Bravo gods. What they feel is entertaining and good TV.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: But if they want to reboot, they reboot. I, you know, I,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: whatever it is, I've had a great run.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: And yeah, you know, I I'll continue doing my thing.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: That's what it is. I have a very, very full,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: happy life and it doesn't define me.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: You know, I feel like with all this, people were like, oh,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: it was so sad. I feel like it's an, I
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: actually was happy at the end of the episode because
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: I did feel there was resolution. Resolution was you guys
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: actually have a real friendship. And that happened when she surprised,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Rachel surprised you guys with the pregnancy.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, we do. And the genuine joy- Was really lovely.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: Was really lovely. That, our girls and Dolores, I say,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: we all talk on the phone.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: We eat dinner together. We were just at Rachel's and
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: it's very funny because Danielle kept saying to her, I
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: feel like you're pregnant. I feel like you're pregnant. I
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: had a dream you were pregnant. So that's what we
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: were saying. Like when she did that, I was like,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: oh my God, Danielle's like psychic. Cause Danielle always like says,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: I dreamt that da da da.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: And then it comes true.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: So we were like, I was freaking out because of that.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: we really cheer each other on. That's not saying we
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: don't argue or anything like that, but we really are
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: happy for each other's successes and everything else. And I
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: know Rachel, so excited to be pregnant and she's a
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: young woman and she's a great mother.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: And if you're around them, you know, we're really happy.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: And I really was teary-eyed when her and Jen Fessler
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: made up because I know they really love each other.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 6: So it just, you know, we, I was so happy when,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: you know, that came out.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: Well, are Jen Fessler and Jackie no longer doing their
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: podcast together?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Or was this just, she's doing a solo one-off Jackie?
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: Um, there's still, I think they're still doing theirs. I
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: don't know how much longer that's going to go. You know,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure. I don't know what their contract is.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: Jackie's doing her solo, um, you know, to be seen,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: to be seen. I think it's, I think it's, uh,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: I think it's very interesting.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: Listen, Jackie, um, you know, Jackie Judas Goldschneider, that's all
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: I have to say.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: And what do you think about how so many interviews
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: she has just bashed, um, Ozempic and similar medications for that?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: I really, I think there's a, go tell me what
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: you think.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: Go ahead. I think Jackie's not a doctor. She should
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: stick to, um, snooping and being deceitful.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: No, because this is the truth. Ozempic has helped so
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: many people.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: It's also helped people with infertility, polycystic ovaries. She's saying
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: it's like liquid anorexia.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: Anorexia is a mental disorder, but an Ozempic has helped
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: so many people. Listen, I'm on semaglutide. I've been on
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: semaglutide for two years. My blood work's never been better.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: My A1C was a little high.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: It shuts off the food.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: Noise in your head. Everyone's like, do it the right way. No,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: after menopause, I'm sorry. I like could not just shed
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: a pound. I don't have those, you know, sorry, Heather McDonald,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: those gorgeous legs you have because you do, you look amazing.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: And you know, women do suffer, men suffer, you know,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: your certain things in your body changes. And I really
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: was a little insulin resistant. My A1C, I was always
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: a little borderline, you know what I'm saying? My grandmother's over.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: So her making these blatant statements, she's not the authority
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: because someone had an eating disorder doesn't make them the
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: authority on Ozempic.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: And I, and I think there's some.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: Underlying, um, I don't want to say what I really,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to say what I really think
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: that because, I've joked about it on stage, so.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: I'll say it. There is a group of women.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: There's two groups.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: There's a group of women that have always been naturally
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: skinny and they never had to suffer with any kind
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: of diet.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: It was just a gift.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: And I've actually had a friend like that say to me, well,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: I don't like it that everyone can take a shot
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: and now just be the one thing that came easy
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: She was kind of joking. She was like, I can't
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: just take a shot and sing like Adele. And I
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: just thought that was so funny.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I do think there's a group of
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: women that are naturally skinny, that don't really like it,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: that their counterpart friends are now their size. And maybe
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: those women have prettier faces. So now they're really, you know,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: the bomb. And they were always the Lucy and they
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: always had the Ethel and now they're the same.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: And- It's the truth.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: There's people that are like, it's cheating. What the fuck
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: do you care of what somebody does?
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: And I also think in her.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: Case, someone that did suffer for all these years with
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: an eating disorder, which is very sad. And we see, oh,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: she never had ice cream and she had to eat
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: these all weird things. That I also think she thinks, again,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: wait a minute. It's not fair that I had to
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: suffer to be this size. And now people can take
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: a shot. and not have the mental noise and eat
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: smaller portions and be healthier. It's just not fair. And
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's my opinion.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: I have a right to my opinion. He's given her
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: opinion numerous times. That's what I think.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: And I think it's rude. Like, are there a couple
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: of negatives to it?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: Now plastic surgeons are making money on tightening skin because
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: if you don't eat right when you do the Ozempic
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: and you don't gain your muscle, you will get saggier skin.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: Any weight loss you get seen.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: So if you're going on it and you're not going
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: to eat a lot, don't eat a thing of pasta,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: eat a thing of salmon, eat a thing of chicken,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: eat little portions of protein and work out, but you're
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: going to lose weight and.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: Therefore you're going to have extra skin.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: And so they're saying now that at plastic surgeon's office,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: less people are asking for liposuction. but more people are
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: asking for skin tightening kind of, you know, invasive or
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  Speaker 3: non-invasive stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. So what?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Having, and that's, and that's how I feel. I
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 6: don't understand. I, she is not the authority on, on
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: weight loss. I think it's actually I think it's interesting
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  Speaker 6: that she would be taking this on as her challenge.
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  Speaker 4: It has nothing to do with it.
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  Speaker 6: And I think it's sad, but it is.
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  Speaker 4: What it is.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the other thing people aren't talking about is,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: and I don't know because I'm not a doctor, but
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  Speaker 3: if this can work for people under 18... God love it.
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  Speaker 2: And I follow this one girl who shared her story.
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  Speaker 3: I gave it to my daughter who suffered for years
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: and she had definitely some type of medical thing that
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: was keeping her at an unhealthy weight.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's working for her.
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  Speaker 3: And I think more and more people, I mean, there's nothing.
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  Speaker 2: harder.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of things hard, but one of
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: a very hard thing of childhood is, you know, you
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: hear people, I had to go to a fat camp.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't, I didn't feel like I was the size
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  Speaker 2: of my friends and it starts there.
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  Speaker 3: So if there's something genetically or whatever that can help
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  Speaker 3: maintain your growing child to be more confident and live
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  Speaker 3: a healthier lifestyle and have less weight on their body,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: so they can go and be in a sport or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Why is that a negative thing? You know? And so.
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  Speaker 4: You're a thousand percent.
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  Speaker 6: Also, the other thing is that they're also giving it
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: to people for alcoholism and drinking issues.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: You have a very, it's very hard to drink on
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: this drug.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't drink, but other people have told
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 6: me and they're starting to look at it for that.
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  Speaker 4: So there's a lot of positives to that and her
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: taking anything to make it a negative and make it
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: about her. It's not about you, Jackie. Everything's not about you. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I loved talking to you.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: I think you, and I think it made it, you know,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: it is really interesting. And I think that Bravo was
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: kind of like, this has just gone to, there's too
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: many entities that were happening, not on the show. And
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: I think they want to go back to just having
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: a show where we see the things as it happens.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: I think that might be a challenge in the world
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: that we live in of social media and and access
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: to everything. And all these people that are fans that
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: want to somehow be part of the storyline we thought.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: Happened on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. So I
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: think that's it.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: But I think the start, the way this can go
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: forward is keeping true friends, finding a couple other people
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: that are part connected to you guys somehow, or that
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: would fit in well.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: And I think give.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: Teresa and Louie and their kids and maybe a couple
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: other people, let them do some type of other show
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: because it might be fun to watch if they are
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: not fighting and plotting and planning with the other people.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: Like I would kind of like to see, what is their,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: I feel like because so much time has been set
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: to share, to share this story. I don't really, I
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: don't really, we don't really see them as a couple.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: And maybe that would be interesting.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I never want to see anyone lose
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: a job.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: Look at Instagram. You can see that.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But I'm just saying like, I never want to
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: be the person. A lot of people that do what
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: I do will say, fire this one and do that.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: And I never, ever want to say that because I
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: love watching the show.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see anybody lose their income.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: So I think that's how I would solve it if
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: I worked at Bravo. And I would split the baby
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: and have two great, interesting shows that maybe people could
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: be successful. But clearly- no, it can't go on this way.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: And I think everyone agrees to that now.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: And, but it was a, you know, it's called a
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: reality show. We watch the reality happen.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: And part of the reality is jealousy to be top
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: dog and all this stuff on a show.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: It's a show, it's a business, it's, you know, and some.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: People want to be the president of the company.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 6: Some friendships just can't go on. Some families can't go on. Friendships,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: you know, nothing lasts forever.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: And I mean, not in real life when people say,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: you know, friendships have ups and downs and ebbs and flows.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: As someone who's not been on a reality show, no.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: When it goes like that, it's kind of over.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: It's true.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: You only come back over and over again because you're
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: being paid by Bravo. In real life, if you had
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: somebody do this, you'd be like, I'll be pleasant at.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: A party, but we're not talking on the phone anymore.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: No, absolutely.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: But because you're on a show, yeah, go ahead.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. That's why.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 6: Listen, I was, you know, I came back, but like,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 6: I was not going to be in a room with
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: somebody who I felt threatened by, who I felt unsafe around.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: You're right.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: And I think Melissa said it perfectly. And I've been
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: in that position too. She's like, when you have like,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: this is, I'm paraphrasing. When you have like hard proof
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: that someone, does not want good for you.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: They literally would dance on your grave. They literally might
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: be happy if they found out that you were terminal.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: And you really know that. You can't fake it. You
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: cannot fake it anymore. For all the money in the world,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: you can't.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: That's exactly what I do.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 6: When they wish suffering upon me and everything else that
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 6: has gone through, and I saw them trying to hurt
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 6: my livelihood, I'm not going to be like, oh yeah,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: I forgive you.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: Well tell us a little bit about where they can
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: find Sfora because a lot of people are sober curious.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: And they use it as a mixer too.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: You've given it to me and I really like it.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: But what I really like about having that experience is
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: So much of enjoying drinking is the glassware, the look
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: of the pink Cosmo, the shaking it up and having
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: it be perfectly cold. And a lot of people are
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: really going that route and either really curtailing their drinking
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: or going a whole way. And I think your company
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: really fills that void.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: You could get it on drinks, soiree.com.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: Um, in California, it's not in any stores yet. We're
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: branching out to the West coast. We're in a lot
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: of places in New Jersey. We're in some shop rights
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: in New Jersey where Gary's where, um, Oh my.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: God, why am I drawing a blank Lexi? Jesus Christ. Um,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: I'm so crazy.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: Buy, right. Oh my God.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: I'm losing my marbles. Heather buy rights in New Jersey,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: the liquor stores. So, um, And we're in a lot
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: of hotels on premise. We're in Texas. We're at the
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: Chicago White Sox stadium. You know, we're just branching out everywhere.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: But with that being said, the reason I started is,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: you know, I don't drink, but I'm a non-judgy non-drinker
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: because you could use as a mixer.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: It's only 45 calories. It's all natural.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: Great flavors, cucumber, mint, lychee, elderflower, passion fruit, you know,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: rose and guava. So I want everybody to experience it,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: have an elevated experience, have a good time, have a party.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: Mix it if you want, put it with tequila, put
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: it with vodka. But that's really why I came out
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: with it.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: Cause I am a professional party girl and I want
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: to party with everybody.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: So if you're sober, curious, pregnant, um, just not in
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: the mood to drink, or if you want.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: To drink, yes, on Ozempic can't, can't down, you know, two, uh,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: two drinks. Cause Ozempic makes you nauseous when you do drink.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: It's a great drink for you.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: Seriously. It's actually good for diabetics. It's very low in sugar.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: Um margaret love you and you have so many products
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: at walmart you have all the makeup brushes.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: And all that makeup brushes you know the beauty blenders
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: every every single you know the beauty sponges a bunch
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  Speaker 6: of different things i'm very i'm very blessed.
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  Speaker 3: Well i will see you uh you know i'm coming
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: to new york i'm coming to new jersey i'm coming
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: to red bank new jersey when are you coming Um, October, gosh,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: I don't have my day right here. In October, I
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: will be doing Red Bank, New Jersey. And I'm also
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: doing on October 11th, Friday night, I'm going to be
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: at the Palladium in Times Square. Oh, fun.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: So you'll have to come to one of those.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: I'm totally going to be there.
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  Speaker 3: And, um, I really appreciate you coming on and clearing
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  Speaker 3: so much stuff up and being so honest and raw.
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