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S**t Ring: Elden Ring, Star Trek 4 & Ivan Reitman Tribute · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  I am calling [ __ ] on the reviews for a game that come out this week I wanted
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  to ask you about this because from what I'm hearing I really need to play this
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  game uh stunning is how I've heard it uh how would you describe it one word to
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  describe Elden ring [ __ ] welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and Dan multiple
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  nerdgasm your guide to All Things
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  nerdy all right you said one word no no that's great that no that that gives us
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  a great
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  intro so [ __ ] Rings is that could be the name of this
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  episode um like if you like Dark Souls I don't know if I like Dark Souls you're
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  gonna love this game okay if you're like me who despises Dark Souls and doesn't
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  understand why people play it you're not going to like this game so you you've
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  purchased this game I purchased this game CU it's got achievements presumably
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  that you want yes well I I need them and I I cuz I saw
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  the reviews that I've gone okay so it's quite high and that led me to think it
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  was going to be a little bit different than Dark Souls that it might be or you
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  forgot people love Dark Souls or that it might be like star was
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  the fall order where I could like throw it down onto story I was going to ask
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  you that I was can't do that all right there no you cannot there is no there is
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  this is how you play the game so so I haven't really played Dark Souls much
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  only like a little bit at the start and then I I mostly I know from you telling
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  me that I won't like it that I won't like it can you describe to
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  me what it is and what the problem with it is if if you don't okay I could
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  explain by using stols the fall in order okay cuz that sto some stuff where it's
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  you go through you kill things you level up but if you die you lose all that
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  experience and then you can either go back collect the experience
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  or the whole thing about Dark Souls is it's you constantly die yeah I have seen
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  that as a meme like even even it just like it just like trolls you with like
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  instant death in sections and then and then you know not to do that next time
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  is that accurate and I've even read some things like it's oh if you go to an area
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  and you die well then just go off and explore another part of the game for a
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  few hours level up and come back sure
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  but it's not very clear about where you where I should and shouldn't be
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  going long do I have to level up yeah that's kind of interesting though but
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  yeah I see what you mean so if I'm level say if I'm level let's make this up
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  level five right and I've and I'm like 90% of the way to level six but I die y
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  I just go back to base level five with no experience yep okay you can go back
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  to where you died and collect your experience oh that's the other thing you
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  can collect the experience which is great but then you need to go and rest
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  at fires to level up so you could have like enough points to level up two times
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  but if you die you you lose it all so there's no point in trying to save up
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  and hold on to experience un runes as they call it unless you're a sadist
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  sorry s and there and there are those people out there there are people who
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  have completed every single Dark Souls game not getting hit once what yeah
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  there's a person out there who played through Dark Souls 1 2 and three and did
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  a no hit run so played through all three of them his first time trying it got to
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  like Dark Souls 3 got hit when he sort of wasn't paying attention and then went
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  back to the start of Dark Souls 1 and started all over again
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  what there are people like that they're
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  part of the speedrunning community czy a lot of people like that that is
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  ridiculous there there are very special people out there that can do that H yeah
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  those they called unemployed people although I suppose if you were
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  doing that people would watch on stream but I wouldn't I mean after the first
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  time he' be well I'm going to go back to the start well I'm not going to watch
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  watch anymore am I let no cuz I've already seen that part I'll come back
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  with three yeah tweet when you get to the bit you just died out and I'll I'll
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  start watching again yeah yeah look all I can tell
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  people is think about buying sorry just you don't drop levels okay all right you
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  always you'll never drop a level to what you are but also it's not very when you
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  go up a level it's not just I'll go up a level you got to decide which where you
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  going to use your points so in strengths Vitality intelligence M okay so if
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  you're not if you're like me who doesn't really pay much
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  attention sure I think as long as I know these things I I'd be fine I didn't know
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  that about Jedi fall in order at first and it confused me a bit so and that's
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  why I told you you and then like just wrong on the story because yeah I
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  actually forgot that that was a thing uh because you had said don't worry about
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  it just turn it off yeah because I I actually think it was a better game
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  without that okay and even even on story it was sort of difficult
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  difficult in some parts yeah yeah totally but yeah this look if you're
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  thinking about buying Elder ring go play a Dark Souls Gabe decide if you like
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  that constant dying constantly trying to work out how to beat monsters it doesn't
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  hold your hand if you like that then go bu Olden ring okay if you don't like
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  that do not give them money cuz I got to say the trailers and all the the
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  marketing materials for this make this very appealing right this game
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  and and that's I I thought that as well that's why I actually brought it because
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  I went okay yes I know it's made by the guys who make those hard games but maybe
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  this is from sof not like that is it from software y from software and I
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  maybe it's not like that maybe it's a bit more of a like just a role playing
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  game just especially like you can ride a horse and stuff so I went yeah I'll give
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  it a try and yeah I I wasted have you have you actually played through any
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  Dark Souls games no okay that that they're that annoying to
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  you I just I don't see the point of punishing yourself achievements on the
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  table just because you dislike these games so much I don't I don't get the
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  idea there are games out there that the whole thing is you will die over and
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  over and over that's not fun to me I see that make that that's makes sense except
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  I've seen the games that you do play and they're not fun either sometimes so yeah
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  but they're easy yeah I suppose yeah you're not getting frustrated you might
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  get bored but you don't get frustrated yeah okay you can't watch Spies Like Us
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  while you're playing Dark Souls exactly you got to pay attention the entire time
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  all right and yeah so look cuz I was going to ask you should I so cuz I
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  looked at uh I I saw that you had said uh in in the chat our little WhatsApp
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  group don't buy elen ring cuz cuz you knew that I was thinking about it
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  obviously y cuz you could tell the marketing you saw the marketing and you
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  went Matt's gonna think he should buy that and I should warn him right yep
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  yeah so thank thank you for that and then I was going to say I I was going to
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  ask you is there a Dark Souls game I should start with to see if I like it
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  but you're not going to know the answer to that because you don't like any of
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  them I I I don't know honestly probably you should maybe start with the first
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  one probably three with okay if you got if if you got to play through
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  all of them but no to me if you just want to see if you like the mechanics of
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  the game prob to new go through the newest one I would say oh cuz it's more
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  refined yeah cuz we got to remember like the original Dark Souls was originally
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  an Xbox 360 game yeah see that that was the other thing I was going to say I
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  looked and there's a remaster of the original Dark Souls but that's 40 bucks
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  and I I own the original one it was like free with game like U yeah it would been
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  games gold or something yeah exactly so and then I'm like maybe I could play
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  that but it might make my eyes sad so I don't know yeah look I I think I own all
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  of them somehow I think I've tried to play the first one and just went n well
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  luckily luckily the fact that I am now
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  fully obsessed with cyber Punk again has made it pretty easy for me to ignore
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  other games so yes and I have a I have a
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  hankering to replay I replayed um Arkham Asylum all the way through and
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  got all the Collectibles and so I've got a hankering I think all achievements
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  actually I have to double check this but I think I did um oh wow I've got a
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  hankering for Arkham City and Arkham Knight to to get to those but like I
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  said cyber punk I don't need any other games right now ruin that for you I'm
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  doing a ninja build in cyber Punk I've decided she's going to be a ninja okay
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  yeah she going use a sword and Jitsu and
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  a gun she yeah has a backup yeah yeah for when I get shut up for when I get
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  bored because you know damn well this is going to happen yeah someone will see me
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  I'll be like you're all [ __ ] dead now always that's how it happens like
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  yeah like when you play sky you I got to be stealth and then some lonely guard
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  sees you went well I have murder you all now exactly yeah because of you your
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  friends are all going to die now we could have gotten through this
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  peacefully but you've ruined it y by looking at me yeah totally by doing your
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  job mhm cyber Punk looks fantastic now like I have installed it but I just
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  haven't played it yet yeah I I I mean I know we've talked about this to death
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  and people are probably sick of hear me talking about it but like it was already
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  great if you have a series X or I think even Series S just yeah load it up now
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  with the patch it's oh it's great just what a great game I have but I think I'm
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  going to wait for de see I need more story to get me to go
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  back that's fair that's see now you've said that that reminds me I need to go
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  back to uh out of Worlds I never played through that DLC and there's more DLC
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  isn't there for that now yes so there was the yeah it was two de three that
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  came out yeah I got to go back to that and I still need to go back and I need
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  to finish playing that on PC as well more achievements there's more
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  achievements just in case any listeners like why would have why would someone be so
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  crazy but I'm playing a little bit differently on PC I'm not playing it on
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  I've changed the difficulty in what sense so the first
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  time the first time I played it I played through on the hardest difficulty so it
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  was like you can't only save at the ship there's no fast travel and all that okay
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  for the PC version of me playing again I'm I don't care I'll fast travel I can
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  save anywhere yeah right I'm playing cyber Punk on hard this time and so far
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  I'm not regretting that but I haven't gotten that far into it so we'll see
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  some some boss fights that I might might get sad about but we'll see like at the
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  moment you're still thinking you're ninja build with some with s is a good
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  good idea so well it's interesting actually because the game is different
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  when you do things differently like when this is early game so it's not
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  going to be a spoiler but when when you do the Maelstrom bit at the start you
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  know you have to get the um the the little Droid the the Flathead the robot
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  from the melstrom gang yep there's a whole bunch of different ways that can
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  play out and yeah if you kill everybody in that room when you're negotiating
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  then you don't have to F you know he shows up in like a Mech thing later on
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  on the way out yeah that doesn't happen cuz he's dead correct everyone's dead
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  yeah so I only had to fight like I don't know I just stealthily killed 10 people
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  and then walked outside and I was like oh all right then I cuz I I remember I'm
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  like oh there was a boss sort of sort of boss fight with a a guy in a thing but no didn't
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  happen Okay uh I will get to it again actually
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  I'm at I'm playing leure Suit Larry the new one wet dreams never dry is that
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  what it's called Uh no I'm playing a
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  sequel to that which is wet dreams dry
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  twice that's good all right it is just as terrible as any ler [ __ ] Larry game
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  right oh as in like content wise or you means it's not a good game oh I just
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  make content Wise It's yeah and it's cuz it is a direct
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  Sequel and then there are sometimes it's just like it's it's leg Larry trying to
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  be sort of PC it's it's funny sometimes it's him learning I've had sex with two
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  people so far we're still talking about the game
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  yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah right all right Alo he okay cuz the I mean the very
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  first leg suit l game which I don't recommend anybody try to play these days
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  no but the whole point was to try and just to try and have sex with
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  somebody I think Peppermint Patty at the end right you end up with in the hot tub
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  or something vaguely remember that yeah yeah I just remember the start of the
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  game when you had to try and enter and show that you're old enough to play it
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  yeah the remember those questions except the questions were all American yeah and
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  based in the'80s so yeah so in the '90s when we were trying to F
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  it yeah the president was no longer the same president so
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  no all right oh and I've been playing uh I don't know if I talked about this the
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  great Ace Attorney Chronicles oh yes I've been playing that on the switch I
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  play that on my treadmill actually that's okay yeah that's a good game to
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  play while you're you know pretending to walk somewhere yeah and that's it's
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  funny as well I have it I've played through one and a half of the three
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  games mhm except I I messed up on one of the things and now I need to start the
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  second game all over again it's quite annoying wait why how how does that
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  happen achievements oh oh oh I I
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  missed yeah I missed a certain way of doing something which means I can't get
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  the achiev so I need to play through that one all over again which is yeah
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  that put me off it hang on a minute TR sometimes put me off gangs you're
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  blowing my mind here right are you telling me that there are multiple paths
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  through these games I thought they were just basically linear you just had to
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  like figure out the right stuff to click oh well yes but there are some I think
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  there are some sort of conversations that can change okay all right
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  interesting but the the outcome in the person who is guilty yeah yeah is always
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  the same that's always the same yeah we've talked about these games before if
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  you haven't played them listeners I highly recommend you check them out um
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  they're not I wouldn't call them legal simulators as such I'm not sure you get
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  over the stuff for example in in the new game there's a a murder it's always a
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  murder there's a murder that's taken place and there's a a certain female
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  character that you believe is the culprit and there's some evidence uh on
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  uh on a a glass bottle and in court she says can I have a look at that I'd like
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  to see the evidence so the judge goes I don't see why not they hand her the
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  bottle she smashes it on the ground and then the judge is like oh my god without
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  the evidence there's no way we can find a guilty I I do need to blow your mind
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  though because it was actually episode four that I need to play again and the
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  achievement I got was get the bad ending the bad ending so I need to replay
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  through that one to get the correct ending so you can get things wrong see
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  now I'm C so which which game is that in particular you're talking about just the
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  very first Ace Attorney yeah so this is just Phoenix Right Ace Attorney Trilogy yeah
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  okay and this is I think Phenix right um
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  a atorney Justice for All see I'm going to sound like an idiot but I did not
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  realize that you could get alternate en get it wrong yeah well not wrong right
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  because if you get it wrong it just you just get found guilty or the not you or
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  well depends some sometimes it is you sometimes you sometimes it just depends
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  on whoever they feel like accusing of murder but yeah right yeah this one
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  there was a I don't think it's in all there was definitely this one has a good
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  ending and a bad ending I'm going to have to look into this now I thought it
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  was like I said I just thought it was linear and it was like you look around
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  you find all the clues and then you go into court and you just have to find the
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  right pick the try and pick the right order to talk about them and yeah [ __ ]
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  eh all right I mean that's good that that is also I think it's good that
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  that's a and it's also good that I didn't notice you know what I
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  mean cuz that's pretty good it gave me the illusion that I was not influencing
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  I think I'm sure it's probably fairly rudimentary but and for the record I've
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  played through like seven of these games now and not noticed so not notic maybe I'm the
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  problem it' be interesting to know if you've played through them like and got
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  different endings but just didn't notice yeah yeah all right I'm going to have to
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  look into it cuz depending on how long you've been playing cuz I don't think
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  the ending would be very very different it might just be you're guilty not
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  guilty and if you're remembering something from like years ago yeah see
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  now I'm super curious yeah because see the original Phoenix Right Ace Attorney
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  I played on my DS and then I replay I don't know if I played any others after
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  that on the DS but I replayed the trilogy on my
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  3DS right the ace atony Trilogy and then I
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  played two others on my 3DS I can't remember the names of them a a it
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  doesn't matter um no and then now I'm playing the one on the switch oh wait
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  and then there's also Apollo Justice attorne at law that I played on the DS
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  isn't that his son or something no no it's it's not his son I think it's just
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  his friend I don't I think it's his son
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  I don't know it does get conf they all like it's it's it's like Star Wars it
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  starts off insane yeah no it's definitely insane there no question that
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  the the very first one you have a ghost coming to help you I know and they they
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  yeah sometimes ghosts testify cuz you get one of the if you if you can channel
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  so it's going to listen is going to be like the [ __ ] if they've not played this
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  one of your uh assistants I guess can channel the dead and so you can
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  literally channel the spirits of dead people into the current witness on the
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  witness stand and then now it's the ghost testifying [ __ ] it's [ __ ]
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  excellent actually I think I might have to go back and play this today because I
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  never finished it they're so fun that's and like I said I've been playing them
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  on the treadmill and it's good because it's one of those thing cuz treadmill is
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  boring so boring and sometimes you know there's nothing on YouTube that catches
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  my attention so being able to just Chuck that game on because it's not you can't
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  I find you can't play a game where I'm moving around on the treadmill CU I end
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  up falling off whereas this one you're just kind of
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  clicking through text and choosing apparently half reading it yeah
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  oh yeah I definitely skip sometimes I got the gist of it yeah yeah
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  that's why you know exactly which ending you're getting oh yeah how are you going
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  with them I guess you not currently because you don't you don't remember how
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  to read right we've talked about this or you just can't be bothered reading you
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  know how you just yeah I can't you just don't want to yeah
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  it's yeah so what I do is which is going to sound weird I do have a a guide up
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  which I read through that which tells me what to do so you refuse to read video
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  games you just read supplementary content so that you don't have to read a
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  video game but the guides for games like this especially with leg sweet Larry
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  when I'm playing is very very like look here pick up this you don't have to read
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  all the other like Words around it so you're not even conscious of what's
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  happening contextually in the game right you're just okay once these people
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  finish talking about whatever they're talking about I'm gonna pick that up is
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  that yes huh and they get an achievement is that how you play a game like cyber
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  punk as well no so no games do you have
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  subtitles on or no I still have subtitles on cuz sometimes I find I read
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  faster than they talk and I get B and I skip especially in Skyrim and what not
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  yeah cyberp punk I don't do that a game like that I will I'll just play I'll
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  have an idea of what the achievements are but then I'll just play and get it
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  but a game which is like Le Suit Larry or Ace Attorney or stuff like that I
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  will just have a guide up so I can just go through and get the achievements
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  interesting this doesn't sound fun to me
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  but what why you're not ranked the top 300 just Le of the
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  commitment yeah um actually I think I to 300 again I dropped out for a bit and
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  now I'm 294 oh oh Dan's not here by the
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  way oh yeah we haven't mentioned that he's
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  busy so he's living life yeah he's doing important important things uh I guess he
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  can he can tell everyone what he was up to next week if he feels like it but I
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  mean don't feel obliged to any of you listening none of the look this is
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  business what you're up to mate uh but he's not here obviously um we remembered
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  you talk about well you remembered you want to talk about Russia invading
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  Ukraine or should we just not talk about that I don't know enough so I say we
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  should stay out of it it just seems bad yeah I I actually assumed that was what
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  you were going to say I was just doing it as a joke like I don't think we have
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  particularly anything interesting to say about that like it's bad yeah we uh we
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  don't agree with with them having done that let's let's that's all I really
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  have to say about it I did see a funny news article that said David Lynch has
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  um has condemned Vladimir Putin with this invasion of Ukraine and I was like
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  oh I'm sure he's really upset about that David Lynch is mad at him there a whole
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  a whole news article written about the fact that David Lynch is mad at Putin
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  about it like all right you don't know he might be a bit of a fan yeah maybe
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  he's a big Twin Peaks fan yeah maybe that yeah maybe that cut through to him
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  and that's going to be the end of the war yeah that you know what that's fair
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  I didn't read the article maybe they were friends previously although I I'd
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  be very surprised if that was the case but I mean maybe it was funny this week
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  I read an article about how it's too late for Star Trek 4 okay well like it's
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  been left too long oh it's not going to happen and now there's an article in
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  here that says it's going ahead yeah they announced it and basically it seems
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  they surprised everybody including the cast including yeah well and the
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  representatives for the cast who were like oh I don't know if everyone's
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  available we hav we didn't think this was happening cuz it has been a very long
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  time since the last one yeah because they were talking about Quenton
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  Tarantino doing one and um then I think that all sort of went quiet in the
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  movies and then those was just sort of focused on the television series cuz
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  they've got like yeah Discovery out and they've got the new one was it Brave New
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  worlds MH new worlds whatever that one is yeah coming soon and they've got all
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  the cartoons and kids stuff that's out they don't even have they have a
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  script it's not green lit there's no budget or anything it's just they made
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  this weird announcement I think I think they've got an idea of the script but
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  they don't want to confirm the script because they don't know who's coming
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  back oh I I thought you were going to say I think I thought you were going to
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  say you have an idea what the script's going to be and I
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  like have you seen the other three no I just yes I like them what do you think
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  the fourth one should be I don't think they should do a fourth one all right
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  yeah well that's not a very good script because they've already sort of done the
• 25:01
  whole we've been out in space for a long time we're old we're s they've already
• 25:04
  sort of I think ex done the stories sure
• 25:08
  yeah unless I do the one about Wales no was that the fourth one yeah it was but
• 25:13
  they don't have to remake they I want Wales F I mean that that in a weird way
• 25:20
  that would be interesting if they just were like [ __ ] it we're just going to
• 25:23
  remake Star Trek 4 oh please that would be amazing Vo home yeah the one where they go back
• 25:30
  come back in time and they still go back to the 80s yes it was like all right all
• 25:36
  right all right yeah I don't want to to come back to present day I want him to
• 25:40
  go back to the 80s and it's literally just a shot for shot remake but with those
• 25:45
  actors yep all right and those and those and and new whales obviously I don't
• 25:51
  know if those whales are still around do we still are we still worried about the
• 25:54
  humpback whale or are they okay now did Star Trek save oh they're fine now track
• 25:58
  saved them yeah okay good we've moved on from that but they will have to maybe
• 26:03
  one person they can't bring back I'm trying to think is who the
• 26:07
  Russian yeah right yeah yeah yeah so I may have to recast cut his seed I was
• 26:13
  like who died oh that's right Anton yelin that's his name right yeah yeah
• 26:19
  well he was Australian actually the uh the actor was he yeah yeah anthon yelin
• 26:25
  is that actually his real name or I'm making that up Anton Anton yelin uh was an American
• 26:32
  actor so I'm I'm I'm we're both wrong and he was born in Russia so I
• 26:37
  guess you're more correct than me not Australia yeah I thought he yeah I
• 26:41
  thought he was born in Russia cuz that was his accent I know I don't know he
• 26:44
  put it on probably a little bit more yeah I don't know what I was for the
• 26:48
  show anything in here about Australia no not a not a single mention
• 26:53
  of Australia on his Wikipedia so I don't know what I'm smoking
• 26:58
  yeah but so yeah parabot came out went yep we're making it confused the actors
• 27:03
  their reps saying there's no script they think in here say it's not actually even
• 27:07
  been green lit yeah so what are they doing exactly they
• 27:12
  just yeah we doing it oh they said they're going to start filming it at some point yeah
• 27:19
  they're going to start filming in December which hopes to make a no this
• 27:24
  also say enter into early negotiations for a movie which hopes to make December 22nd
• 27:30
  2023 release end of next year so that means they got to film it they say soon
• 27:35
  film it they've got to negotiate write the
• 27:39
  script get everyone on board film it do all post production and then release it
• 27:45
  I reckon they're just doing this to see if anyone gives a
• 27:48
  [ __ ] like I'll watch it okay especially if they make our movie so now we just
• 27:53
  need to figure out if you saying you'll watch it is enough for them to actually
• 27:56
  keep going or is this I think maybe they're just putting it they're floating
• 27:59
  this out there like uh let's just say we're going to make it and see what the
• 28:03
  reaction is cuz it's been a while right oh if it's based off me it's not going
• 28:08
  to happen because remember how Battle of 5 was going to make be doing a reboot
• 28:14
  yeah evidently they did the pilot and then it wasn't picked up Oh I thought
• 28:20
  that was like happening a done deal yeah
• 28:24
  you told that's what you told me anyway that's what I assumed it was that
• 28:29
  everything I was reading pointed to that they got canned or no just not picked up
• 28:34
  not picked up there's an article now that it may still be possible but I haven't read any
• 28:41
  of that I just read the fact it wasn't picked up oh which was last week or
• 28:47
  something there you go well that's s it SS like B 5 is always one of these weird
• 28:53
  things like everyone talks about how what a great show it was how it's like
• 28:56
  one of the science fiction shows the 90s and everything you can't see it anyway
• 29:01
  I've never seen it I know that it's supposed to be one of the best shows but
• 29:04
  and but that's only cuz people tell me that I don't know I don't know if those
• 29:08
  people have seen it I know you have I have I love it I might start of watch through of
• 29:15
  that again I know it's got that guy with the the weird hair like the he's got
• 29:19
  like balding with the hair sticking up Ambassador Londo that's yeah that's I
• 29:24
  don't know his name but yeah I believe you based on that description
• 29:29
  yeah big eyebrows he he he did that big hair as a joke did he the the character
• 29:36
  or the actor the the actor okay so when they were filming sort of the first
• 29:41
  movie pilot movie before the show he was it was a joke he was meant to have his
• 29:47
  hair sort of up like that but it wasn't meant to be as high it was just meant to
• 29:51
  be sort of low but he ah Let's do let's do this for a bit of a joke went out and
• 29:56
  saw the director and he went I like it let's keep it and then it turned into a
• 29:59
  bit of a became part of their race like the higher the hair the more power
• 30:05
  responsibility yeah yeah right and listeners if you don't know what I'm
• 30:09
  talking about or what we're talking about Google what's his name Londo lond
• 30:15
  I can't remember no Ambassador Ambassador Londo yeah don't listen to me
• 30:21
  listen to Ambassador Londo and you'll see what I mean I know what he looks
• 30:24
  like don't know don't know anything else about him yeah I really hope it does get
• 30:29
  a chance to come back I've met a few of them have you yeah they come and visit
• 30:33
  you in hospital years no not in a hospital I had to go to conventions and
• 30:37
  bookstores oh like a normal person yeah um I'm going to have to stop for a
• 30:42
  second I will be back in a moment though all right then I have to go get drugs do
• 30:47
  you want to just keep recording and then yeah talk about yourselves all
• 30:52
  right all right Luke's gone I guess I can talk about whatever I want
• 30:59
  oh I'm not sure if he can hear me he's making mouth movements that indicate
• 31:04
  maybe he can hear [Music]
• 31:07
  me and I'm back I had my headphones off and I was leaving but all I heard as it
• 31:13
  was leaving would you say
• 31:18
  racist I had to go get an extra painkiller so I had my slow release ones
• 31:22
  I need something a bit more faster acting all right I'll show you oh I'll
• 31:28
  send you a picture of I've got all my bandages off I'll send you a picture of
• 31:31
  my scars later if you're into that oh wow I am curious so you're uh your your
• 31:37
  your your I guess mechanical components are all internal is that true yes okay
• 31:43
  right so the thing literally connects through your flashh via magnets to do
• 31:48
  the stretching yeah so I've got super high powered magnet that I sort of put
• 31:52
  on a specific point of my leg I turn this machine on and then it makes a lot
• 31:56
  of noise for about 3 minutes and that's at slowly twisting this thing
• 32:01
  that's in my leg to stretch the bone 33 mm and I do that three times a day so
• 32:08
  it's like a like a what do you call like a screw kind of you call that like a
• 32:13
  like I forget it is actually just like a screw it just basically just like screws
• 32:18
  around and expands the unit and then they do a millimeter a day
• 32:24
  because you if you go too much the bone can't sort of start to heel and in MIM
• 32:29
  of day sort of just enough that you're sort of stretching across but the bone
• 32:33
  starting to reconnect so it's yeah amazing what they can do this is my
• 32:37
  second time doing it except this time's a bit more high tech yeah right the last
• 32:42
  time I did it I had spanners yeah I do recall you had the
• 32:46
  MEO set when yeah when I met you yeah and yeah and that was where I had to
• 32:51
  four times a day just get the Spinners out and just lengthen my leg quite weird
• 32:57
  yeah yeah yeah this is certainly more cyber punk in uh yes in in function and
• 33:03
  this time and when I finish it stays in this time so last time when I finished
• 33:09
  they yeah they had to go take the meano set out this time that just stays in
• 33:13
  there is there not any danger that you're going to walk near a magnet at
• 33:16
  some point and like shorten yourself accidentally or
• 33:19
  something see I I has to be a very very
• 33:24
  powerful magnet I can get magnets like don't you worry about that that but also
• 33:29
  I think it's the way the magnet does it
• 33:33
  a spe I'm sure cuz I I'm I'm I'm trying when you said that it uses it to kind of
• 33:38
  turn the thing to to you know kind of expand the unit I was like how the [ __ ]
• 33:41
  does that work you know what I don't really need to know that but then also
• 33:45
  like if you look at like it takes like to do 33 of a millimeter which is
• 33:49
  nothing it takes 3 minutes that's amazing that's literally amazing cuz I
• 33:55
  was going to ask is it painful and so I I it is the bone isn't the bone don't
• 34:02
  feel bone has no feeling so right like I've had bone before screwed out of my
• 34:08
  leg with no painkillers no nothing cuz I had uh plaster on my leg for 9 months
• 34:14
  and over that N9 months I had to screw work its way out of my skin oh in my
• 34:18
  ankle and then they just got a Philip screwdriver and just took it hurt when
• 34:24
  it broke the skin but then it just felt weird as they took it out of my
• 34:28
  ankle Jesus this time it's it's not the
• 34:33
  bone it's my muscles getting used to it and adjusting the muscles have to adapt
• 34:38
  very quickly and that's where the pain is is it going to get like more
• 34:42
  difficult over time or just the same kind of difficult just the same and it
• 34:46
  doesn't take long cuz I think I've got about get about 5 cm which means I've
• 34:51
  got to just do it for 50 days which okay it goes very quickly yeah I've already
• 34:56
  done over venator that's cool man he's hoping it doesn't that's why
• 35:02
  Star Trek should make a movie about whales for me that's right just to cheer
• 35:05
  Luke up cuz he's lengthening his leg he's got to sit sitting around not doing
• 35:09
  a lot you know no normally you'd be out there kicking a ball around and you know
• 35:15
  running with the balls you love [ __ ] yeah I do that all the time mhm but not
• 35:21
  anymore the only the only thing that's different is I'm not going to work it's
• 35:25
  the only thing that's changed in my life yeah I don't get to work and I play more
• 35:30
  games mhm which I'm missing work but I can't focus enough to go be at work yet
• 35:35
  that's the problem yeah sure yeah cuz it's distracting
• 35:39
  the uncom discomfort I yes and I can't drive which is drivve me
• 35:46
  insane as well oh sure well I can't run my SC and I can't drive our car because
• 35:51
  we've got a manual I can drive an auto but I don't have one yeah right because
• 35:55
  I'm not American are you GNA get you know when you when when you do
• 35:59
  eventually drive again your leg's going to be longer is that going to screw you
• 36:02
  up a little bit um we'll take probably some adjustment and also I need to learn
• 36:05
  to walk again and everything okay yeah okay do that first I guess well no
• 36:11
  that's what I think cuz I've walked with like a 5 cm difference for what 20 odd
• 36:17
  years going back to walking with none it's going to be different it's going to
• 36:22
  take some time can you you don't walk on it currently you're using the crutches
• 36:26
  all the time uh yeah I'm no weight bearing at the moment yeah right cuz
• 36:30
  technically my leg is like completely
• 36:33
  broken okay right oh of course because
• 36:38
  it's yeah yeah okay intally A little G yeah yeah yeah of course all right well
• 36:44
  now that we freaked the listeners out with uh just weird stuff that happens to
• 36:49
  Luke with what's going on inside Luke's [Laughter]
• 36:53
  body uh we got we we we missed this last week we skipped over it we've got a geek
• 36:59
  of the week from last week that I guess we're going to have to roll forward into
• 37:02
  this week and then there's another sadly another another geek of the week
• 37:06
  Contender this week yeah I was reading I woke up this morning and I was seeing
• 37:10
  this everywhere and this is going to be a tough week for me okay that surprises
• 37:15
  me but all right really so I mean the more recent one is Sally Kellerman who
• 37:21
  people may know if they're our age or older I'm not sure exactly what age
• 37:26
  people stop watching MASH but she played uh hot lips no she played it in the
• 37:32
  movie not the television show now I don't even know this
• 37:39
  person yeah no you're thinking of someone else am I yes all right well I
• 37:45
  well then I definitely don't know how this is going to be difficult for you
• 37:48
  right you tell me who this person is then okay so Sally Kellman um she's most
• 37:54
  known as being the original hot Holan but not from the mesh television show
• 37:59
  from the mesh movie which came out first right okay the one that had uh oh which
• 38:05
  brother didn't had it in it it had one of the before Baldwins what was the
• 38:09
  other big brother we had big brother family um look let me just go to a be
• 38:15
  and find this out all right um was it Southerland oh the Donald the the Donald
• 38:22
  and family yeah so this one had uh where's let me go to the movie cuz I
• 38:28
  actually quite like the movie I've watched it many many times and yes
• 38:32
  Donald southernland was in this Donald Sutherland you've watched the mash movie
• 38:36
  many yeah it's a good movie I recommend it I didn't know there was a mash movie
• 38:41
  I'll be honest I thought it was just a TV show um was the movie was based the
• 38:45
  television show was based off the movie which was based off a book right all
• 38:50
  right but yeah the person you're thinking of you thought it was uh
• 38:56
  Lorissa sweet who was died but she's still she's still kicking she's alive
• 39:02
  all right yeah all right we'll be back for you Loretta I think let me just click
• 39:06
  through that that she's still alive okay good I mean not good I mean yeah yeah
• 39:12
  that that is good yeah no no no I just mean like I'm not I'm not a huge fan of
• 39:18
  either of them in a sense I just know who they are you know this is not coming
• 39:21
  out correct the way that I intended right not just I don't hate her you know
• 39:27
  wish sure dead it's not like that the way it doesn't sound as bad as when why
• 39:33
  when I when I say things that come across his threats it's not sounding
• 39:36
  that bad all right good good good all right so Sally Kellerman has died she
• 39:39
  was also in um Star Trek and she was in the original series of Star Trek and she
• 39:45
  was in a bunch of movies and stuff like that uh Meatballs 3 meatballs oh I know
• 39:50
  who she was in that so yeah in meatballs
• 39:54
  so meatballs one was to Camp with Meatballs 2 had the alien Meatballs 3
• 40:00
  was about a virgin and trying to get laid and this famous mov movie actress
• 40:06
  died and to get into heaven she had to come back to earth to help
• 40:12
  him that's the part of meatballs three and then you find out that he actually
• 40:17
  falls in love with the best friend blah blah blah but I I like the Meatballs
• 40:20
  movies don't judge me not going to judge you I just didn't know that she was in
• 40:25
  Columbo uh which so you should know from there well I've definitely I I I looked
• 40:31
  it up and it is a it's a later Columbo that I've not gotten to on my latest
• 40:34
  rewatch and there are a lot of columbos so yes I'm going to have to see you in
• 40:39
  context to even remember so yeah but no look most people probably won't quite
• 40:45
  remember her she she was big in the day but you're going to have a you're going
• 40:51
  to have a hard time picking between her
• 40:55
  and Ivan wman I I I I like mash you I even thought about reading the book I
• 41:01
  own the book she didn't write the book right just just putting that out there
• 41:06
  do you like um Ghostbusters do you like
• 41:11
  meatballs we discuss it you do like
• 41:15
  meatballs do you likees Kindergarten Cop twins
• 41:21
  like he directed all of those movies he directed he directed meatballs the movie
• 41:26
  that you just said you really love and and that other
• 41:30
  person was in the third one of them so
• 41:34
  all right so so basically he he had part of most of the movies we grew up
• 41:40
  watching yeah he was clearly even if not a officially like he probably did have
• 41:45
  some influence on a lot of those movies from absolutely we yeah cuz he was a
• 41:50
  producer on on movies like I mean this list here is all sorts of stuff from
• 41:55
  from when we were kids like bait Hoven which I don't I know it's the dog movie
• 42:00
  don't remember but I know what it is Euro trip Space Jam private parts which
• 42:04
  is the Howard Stern movie I believe uh stop on my mom will shoot
• 42:09
  which didn't that have Betty White in it no no that had the other the older lady
• 42:14
  the younger lady from Golden Girl oh you're absolutely right the older
• 42:18
  younger one I'm not having a good week but uh yeah all right um he also helped
• 42:23
  out on bayat that movie that came out a few years ago that's a great movie as
• 42:26
  well oh the new one with the yeah I enjoy it it's like stupid that movie was
• 42:32
  funny yeah um and the new Ghostbusters movies
• 42:39
  ones in fact yeah he was involved with so I don't know how much he's involved
• 42:44
  with with the not the last one the the one before that the 2016 one I don't
• 42:51
  call it the girl one but gobusters but that one because the one with the girls
• 42:57
  I don't know that that doesn't seem like or if he was a part of it he had no
• 43:02
  influence whatsoever because it's it's very different in tone from the I have
• 43:06
  not seen the one actually I still got to watch them really watch it it is really
• 43:11
  good and you both said it good and it's a it's a little it's a nice send off
• 43:17
  yeah right for Ivan wman who has died
• 43:22
  but and now has to compete with Sally Kellerman a woman who was in the sequel
• 43:26
  to a movie that shot in that all right I Ran's going to get it actually no scw
• 43:31
  I'm going to give out to both of them they're both geek of the week that you
• 43:35
  know what that's fair because technically Ivan rman should have got
• 43:38
  this last week but for some reason we just didn't didn't get to it because we
• 43:42
  were too busy talking Kellman was today right yeah very Rec so y they both
• 43:48
  get it all [Music]
• 43:55
  right and now that was the jingle Geeks
• 44:00
  of the weeks CU it's two weeks and and I have given out multiples in the past you
• 44:06
  have I think the fact that it was that you know we kind of passed over one of
• 44:10
  them last because we didn't have a geek of the week last week so it's
• 44:13
  retroactive in a sense yeah yeah I mean Dan might have something to say about it
• 44:18
  but he's not here if he wanted to and I'm the judge that's right I'm the one
• 44:22
  that has the final say for some reason I don't know when that started or why I
• 44:25
  decided that was the case but if he wants to put you in your place next week
• 44:29
  that's fine but he's not here this week so L get luk gets to do what he wants
• 44:33
  exactly we' got a little bit of followup
• 44:36
  on the um the whole Helen Hutchins you
• 44:40
  know Alec Baldwin rust shooting thing it's not a huge update but and this one
• 44:47
  just seems a bit weird I think it's it's this fits in with one I think we talked
• 44:52
  about this in the Afterparty last week there was an article about um about how
• 44:57
  the family of the of Helena hitch Hutchin I've written Hitchens in here
• 45:01
  which is not her name so I'm going to correct that cuz if I keep looking at it
• 45:03
  I'm going to keep saying it wrong and yeah um Helen Hutch's family is suing
• 45:08
  Alec Baldwin she's not suing Alec Baldwin as such she's suing all of the
• 45:13
  producers of the she's Shing the production and he's one of The Producers
• 45:16
  so yeah she they're not they they're suing for an unsafe working they're they
• 45:21
  suing the employer essentially yes they're not suing him for shooting her
• 45:24
  like because they think he murdered her or something weird like that it's not
• 45:27
  it's not like that and then this article too they're talking about the article is
• 45:31
  saying that her husband is mad at Alec Baldwin and
• 45:36
  again I mean he is directly mad at Alec baldman but not because she thinks you
• 45:40
  know he he murdered or murdered her did it on purpose it's just he allow unsafe
• 45:46
  well no not even that he does he specifically said which I think we've
• 45:50
  said too is that that interview that he gave was a really shitty thing to do
• 45:55
  yeah because he didn't he did didn't handle it very well it was clearly way
• 45:58
  too soon and he it was there was a lot of covering his own ass that went on
• 46:04
  yeah and which is what even we said at the time was like it wasn't yes the
• 46:08
  thing to do at the time and he was he was emotional and and and it was it was
• 46:13
  just a I don't I don't understand why he did that he should have kept his mouth
• 46:16
  shut it would have it wouldn't have been his idea it would have been publicist going
• 46:22
  we need to get ahead of this and all that he need a new publicist then cuz
• 46:26
  that just H me he clearly wasn't in any state to talk about it anyway and he and
• 46:31
  he ended up just saying a bunch of stuff that sounded silly like he never pulled
• 46:34
  the trigger and and all just odd he just said odd things that made things
• 46:38
  confusing and basically just made it all worse and gave yeah you know the
• 46:43
  Press stupid things talk about all I think he should have said at times like
• 46:47
  look a terrible thing has occurred we're going to let the investigation come out
• 46:52
  happen and I'll assist with any inquiries they have that's all he needed
• 46:55
  to say there not go into details and right try and explain and then have
• 47:01
  other people jump on and try and explain what happened cuz remember when they
• 47:04
  came out with the gun then there's all these YouTube articles and stuff going
• 47:07
  up he couldn't have yeah that's not how all this stuff and all that it's he
• 47:13
  should have just not said any of that stuff that's yeah it was just a bad idea
• 47:16
  CU like I said he clearly was not in the right frame of mind to do it anyway
• 47:18
  because he was he he was emotional it seemed like he was genuinely emotional
• 47:22
  he just shouldn't have been talking about it on TV doesn't make any sense
• 47:25
  cuz even though he didn't do this on purpose he he honestly if you if you was if this
• 47:30
  was to happen to one of us that we were one of the ones that accidentally you'd
• 47:33
  still feel incredibly guilty yeah oh and I believe that he did that's I just
• 47:38
  think because what what a he that the husband is mad about is just the fact
• 47:42
  that he he did spend a a fair bit of air time talking about how it wasn't his
• 47:48
  fault and it's like well and and not accepting any responsibility which I
• 47:53
  mean legally you had to do that but which was why I'm saying he should have
• 47:56
  just not done the interview all he did was make it worse
• 48:01
  like yeah he can't go in and go look this is my fault I accept full
• 48:04
  responsibility you can't do that no that's that's yeah legally that would be
• 48:08
  that would be a bad idea yeah so here he shouldn't have done an
• 48:13
  interview he could have made a statement just a a few lines left it as is said yeah
• 48:20
  sorry and then she yeah he also said just seeing him talking about what had
• 48:24
  happened so openly on television was annoying because the investigation was going on
• 48:29
  and there was some details that I guess they didn't know and he talked quite a
• 48:32
  lot about how the shooting happened and that upset the husband too which is fair
• 48:37
  enough he shouldn't have been talking about it but that's the world we live in
• 48:40
  now people want to know everything right away went and they're not really
• 48:45
  concerned about facts no well that's and that's what he said when he he said Alec
• 48:50
  baldman said the reason he did it was because he saw people saying a bunch of
• 48:52
  stuff that wasn't true and he wanted to correct them but yeah yeah I just I just
• 48:56
  don't think that was the right thing to do personally but I didn't just I wasn't
• 49:01
  just involved in accidentally shooting a person so yeah I'm I don't know what I
• 49:06
  would think was a good idea if that happened well that's what I think like
• 49:10
  honestly it would have been his his good idea at the time was to I'll listen to
• 49:14
  my publicist who I paid him a lot of money to handle this stuff we'll clear
• 49:19
  this all up and then while I'm not thinking straight I'll listen to them
• 49:22
  because that's their job yeah not should have just stayed up
• 49:26
  in v kept your mouth shut yeah well called in Via your house yeah yeah we could have had a
• 49:33
  drink about it and then you wouldn't have to worry about it because it wasn't
• 49:36
  wouldn't have been televised it would have just been secretly recorded and
• 49:38
  then played back on this podcast yep um we've got some uh Michael Bay news that
• 49:45
  I thought was just a little bit interesting what's he blowing up lately
• 49:48
  well I I I want to get your take on this because I don't know have you seen have
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  you seen Spectre the Bond movie that's the most recent one no the
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  one it's the the one before is it spected it's like childhood home or
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  something no that's skyall that's the one before Spectre so there's it goes
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  Skyfall I think Skyfall is the last one I've seen and the only one I've seen of
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  this current James Bond all right well for context then Spectre has a bit in it
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  where a blows up yeah there a very very big explosion in it and it's it's like
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  known as the biggest explosion in film history except Michael B says that's
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  [ __ ] he's had he's made a bigger explosion in uh in Pearl Harbor back in
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  the day his explosions or one explosion
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  in particular was bigger and he's okay and he's pissed off that specters in the
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  Guinness Book of World Records when Pearl Harbour should have been and I was
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  curious if you'd seen have you seen Pearl Harbor even no no okay well we're
• 50:51
  not going to get we're not going to get very far adjudicating this matter then I
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  guess well well no see probably what happened is we spect that they actually
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  probably submitted it to gu book because gu book of Works don't just go and go
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  where going like this is it they're not watching everything that happens in the
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  world I'm laughing cuz I was like I didn't actually expect that we would
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  figure it out but I think you probably just have figured out what the problem
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  here is yeah and now if Michael Bay actually goes and goes and officially
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  submits it they'll probably review it and they might overturn it yeah yeah cuz
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  that's what they do yeah yeah that's fair well see this made me want to watch
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  so I I like Michael Bay uh for what it is for what his films
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  are yeah you know and he doesn't try to do anything you know what you're getting
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  yeah yep you get explosions and fights
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  and sexy ladies usually mhm
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  and I'm not sure Pearl Harbor has the sexy ladies bit it probably does I'm not
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  sure because it's a historic there was a love interest in it wasn't there I don't
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  know I don't know it just seems like it's serious topic particularly in the
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  US it's taken quite Ser I don't know I I wouldn't call it a historical film well
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  see that's that's it's inspired by TR vents that's I to watch because I can't
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  yeah but I can't imagine over here you'd get much leeway making light of of it you know
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  what I mean I don't think he was making light of it but this is back when cuz
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  this is Ben Affleck and this is when yes before he got serious I think okay so
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  yeah I don't know I just I'm not I wouldn't have imagined he'd get far yeah so
• 52:35
  there she was the love interest wait who Kate Beck Andale Kate beckon sail's in
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  that yep I and I haven't seen it nope Al
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  oh and Alec Baldwin and Alec Baldwin's in it who did he shoot in this one I do
• 52:51
  little oh no that's who he played sorry I and then obviously I just
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  Googled Pearl Harbor and none of this is about the film which rightly so cuz You'
• 53:01
  have now got homework apparently I have got homework music by
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  Hans how have I not you missed this how have I not seen this [ __ ]
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  movie I think cuz at the time he won a worst picture and a worst director
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  golden raspberry award so and wor I think the reason why you may not
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  have seen the was while America was
• 53:31
  quite close to home and big thing in Australia yeah we know of it but we
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  don't really know too much and also this was 20 years ago as well so how closest
• 53:42
  we got to bombing in Australia was Darwin right when they bombed up there
• 53:47
  so yeah I guess but watch it let me know what you think all right I'm going to add it to
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  my homework list for the week watch and then I'll watch uh I've seen Spectre
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  before uh it was fine I'm I probably won't watch the whole thing again but
• 54:03
  I'll watch that explosion again yeah watch the explosion in both and then you
• 54:07
  come back and let us know which one's bigger all right but yeah my thing is is
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  yeah the people made expect that they probably submitted it and that's why
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  they're there yeah well because I think at the time they made a fuss about it so
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  I think you're absolutely right I think it's just the fact that they said it was
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  the biggest and everyone was like all right we believe you
• 54:27
  at the time he didn't say anything he just blew stuff up that's what Hees home
• 54:31
  and went oh that's not true mine's mine's bigger hopefully someone asks me
• 54:34
  about it in 2022 and I can have a winge we should get into the Guinness Book of
• 54:39
  World Records for something do we have the biggest something is there something about this
• 54:45
  podcast that's the biggest of something or we could have the the longest running
• 54:50
  podcast with the fewest listeners type of thing we don't know that that's true
• 54:55
  though well the but I think we might be up there I'm not saying that our
• 54:59
  listeners are great and I love them but most podcasts that have been running for
• 55:02
  as long as we have are sort of that top te like Adam
• 55:05
  Cara yeah people give up yeah well see because the thing is too I mean and and
• 55:10
  statistically we do all right for listeners and and and actually you know
• 55:14
  our listeners are great they write in and they submit and they and they're
• 55:17
  they're great like I I I know that you're probably right the ones that go
• 55:22
  for the longest are the ones that have the massive audience like Joe Rogan for
• 55:25
  example's been going for he's raking in the cash we do this cuz we like it
• 55:30
  so and yeah you're never going to get rid of us cuz yeah I still enjoy this
• 55:36
  that's interesting we so we've been doing this for almost I was going to say almost 10
• 55:40
  years it's more than 10 years we're I think this is our 12th year [ __ ] hell
• 55:45
  I think in October it'll I think it be 12 years yeah right yeah you might be on
• 55:51
  something there longest running podcast no but not like the fewest listeners cuz
• 55:55
  I feel like there got to be podcast with less listeners than us yeah but maybe
• 56:00
  not ones that have been running for as long as we have yeah yeah yeah yeah no
• 56:03
  no yeah I get what you're coming from I want that sort of ratio type of thing
• 56:07
  yeah all right let's look into that and listeners if you do like this show and
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• 56:20
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  a month and that's where we like we keep talking for uh mhm 20 minutes every week
• 56:30
  and uh 20ish 20 yeah yeah yeah roughly roughly yeah never I'm not never
• 56:35
  committing to a time in the Afterparty no we have gone longer and we have been
• 56:39
  shorter that's true yeah we get bored or
• 56:43
  we get engaged sometimes M you know
• 56:46
  sometimes it happens MH longest running podcast with yeah and you know what
• 56:53
  we've never had sponsors either we've had like um we've done cross promotion we've done
• 56:59
  cross promotion we've done we and we've tried like we tried to do odd things
• 57:03
  with like merch and stuff like that with like kind of affiliate merch stuff like
• 57:07
  that but we just never really did it properly because I just like talking to you guys
• 57:13
  yeah we're not doing this even the pat we forget to talk about it cuz it's like
• 57:19
  we're just talking to each other and recording it we we're not like as I was
• 57:23
  complaining about last week with YouTube where every single episode they tell you
• 57:26
  to like And subscribe yeah do you know I was watching um cuz I I do watch a lot
• 57:31
  of YouTube and I watched some video about how basically if you want to make
• 57:35
  it on YouTube and and this is why we would never make it on YouTube is that
• 57:39
  you basically there's like um you design your videos you have to
• 57:44
  sit down and script them and then frontload them with a bunch of like
• 57:47
  leading [ __ ] to get people to watch CU it's all about like watch time and and
• 57:52
  and all this kind of stuff and people put in all and I was just like oh God I
• 57:55
  can't imagine I was doing that we just try and make a a fun
• 58:01
  entertaining thing that we're proud of I don't care about how marketable it is I
• 58:06
  actually think the other part of the problem is
• 58:09
  is we take too much pride in the work if that makes any sense like a lot of the
• 58:16
  YouTube stuff it's not about being good quality it's about they being a lot of
• 58:20
  quantity yeah making money like even when we were making videos and putting
• 58:25
  them on YouTube they'd be very few and far in between the quality was there but
• 58:32
  we just you need you need to commit to be having that least at least one or two
• 58:36
  every we you we should get into we should get into making videos or or
• 58:40
  episodes of this show where we just talk about you know our everyday carry and we
• 58:44
  have affiliate links to all the stuff and then we just roll around in the
• 58:48
  affiliate money at the end of the day yeah yours yours would just be your Xbox
• 58:54
  I guess yeah I I would just I just like not to spend
• 58:59
  as much money as I do on games well I don't know how you get around that you
• 59:03
  just keep buying the games Luke oh you got free ones I guess maybe yeah but I
• 59:07
  feel I still feel guilty about getting review codes I was going to say we do
• 59:12
  get free ones and I usually don't or they e meil said do you want a code and
• 59:15
  I'm like no I'll buy a game if I want to play it because then I feel pressure to
• 59:19
  to say nice things about the game i' rather just yeah yeah we're bad at this
• 59:25
  that's the that's literally problem is that we're bad at this at being a
• 59:28
  business well the other thing is a lot of the codes that I can get um they're
• 59:33
  normally L from like AAA Studios there a lot of like Indie and sort of able a
• 59:38
  games and stuff and I I want to support you so I want to buy the game but like
• 59:44
  there's a game that's coming out this week that I've been looking forward to
• 59:47
  for years called Conan Chop Chop I saw that cuz I know that you've been talking
• 59:50
  about it that's finally coming out and I've already purchased a game cuz I want
• 59:55
  to support those Studios that are making these good quality work that well that's
• 1:00:01
  this is why you're just going to keep having to pay for games Luke mhm the
• 1:00:05
  other thing is I need to start playing them all my backlog is getting away from
• 1:00:09
  me you need like a jira for uh for your
• 1:00:13
  game backlog I do the pro the other problem I have is and is that whole
• 1:00:19
  Netflix dilemma sometimes I'll spend more time deciding what play than I will
• 1:00:24
  playing it sure yeah yeah actually yeah that that's um when I'm on the on the
• 1:00:30
  treadmill and I'm like see if there's a YouTube video I'm like by the time I
• 1:00:34
  finally find one I'm like oh it's been 20 minutes yep I'm done yeah well no no
• 1:00:39
  I've got I do at least half an hour half an hour of exercise every day that's
• 1:00:44
  what they say they in quotes that's what they say who they I don't know medical
• 1:00:50
  experts I don't know 30 minutes that's what my doctor
• 1:00:53
  asked me if I do do you do 30 minutes of exercising every day I didn't yes I
• 1:00:58
  didn't no next I'm doing it so that next year I can go in and go yeah actually I
• 1:01:04
  do so is it next year you can like say that or next year you just don't have to
• 1:01:09
  lie it's both it's cuz you would have said yes when the doctor asked you do
• 1:01:14
  that 30 minutes you say yes she knew as soon as I stood on the scale she knew
• 1:01:19
  she was they always know she was just testing me it's like when my doctors ask
• 1:01:23
  me like how often how much do you have to drink okay how often is that okay
• 1:01:29
  well we're going to send you off to get a test on your liver yeah and
• 1:01:32
  miraculously you're fine yeah makes no sense pisses me
• 1:01:38
  off I'm just getting fat I'm almost certainly going to end up with lisis or
• 1:01:43
  something and you're going to be like sipping on your gin and tonic yeah
• 1:01:49
  I I think I'd make up for medical issues in other ways yeah all right all right all
• 1:01:54
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• 1:01:58
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