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What's Eating U?! Happy Birthday To The Worm Queen | Highlighting Kim's Inspiring Journey · What's Eating U?!

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Sam: Ooh, it's talking, it's talking about wussy in you.
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Sam: Talking about wussy in you.
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Sam: Probably brought to you by Rogers Hood Apothecary.
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Sam: What's up, what's eating you, fam?
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Sam: Welcome to a super special happy birthday episode to the one and only Kim Rogers, the Worm Queen.
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Sam: Today we're celebrating her by highlighting her unique and powerful story and her brave, inspiring journey.
0:27
Sam: We love you, Kim.
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Sam: Happy birthday and many more.
0:32
Sam: Please, let's get into the worms a little bit.
0:34
Sam: Oh, yeah.
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Sam: I mean, you are deemed the worm queen.
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Sam: Like, this is what you are.
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Sam: How did you become the worm queen?
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Kim: Well, I went viral on TikTok and I didn't want to be known as the worm lady.
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Sam: I mean, it's just not sexy.
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Kim: No, I need to be crowned something.
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Sam: So Okay, I like it.
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Sam: I mean, you are you are that.
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Sam: You are a goddess.
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Kim: So thanks, and you deserve to wear the crown.
0:59
Sam: Yeah.
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Kim: I definitely am wearing the crown.
1:02
Kim: This lady.
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Kim: Like they people do call me that and I do correct it.
1:06
Kim: I'm like, I'm sorry.
1:07
Kim: It's the queen.
1:08
Sam: Gotcha.
1:09
Sam: So you you went viral talking about worms.
1:12
Sam: Yes.
1:13
Sam: What happened?
1:14
Sam: What got you on this journey of self-healing, but also leading you to this point of helping others heal and making it a mission and purpose in life to help other people heal themselves and their bodies?
1:26
Kim: Well, I've had 13 surgeries and hysterectomy, and they just continually kept cutting on me, putting me on medications, never really understanding what was wrong with me with endometriosis and all the labels.
1:38
Kim: And then I just realized that like it was everything I was doing was wrong.
1:44
Kim: So we ended up figuring out what we could do in life in order for me to reclaim my health back.
1:52
Sam: So when you say like you realized you were doing it wrong, is it because 13 surgeries you weren't getting better?
1:58
Kim: Yeah, nothing was getting better.
1:59
Sam: So it's like that path you were on was not the solution to get to the root to actually heal what was wrong.
2:07
Sam: It was a lot of like surface level band-aids or treatments, but it wasn't actually getting to the root of what was happening.
2:14
Sam: Correct.
2:14
Sam: Did it get worse?
2:15
Sam: It did.
2:16
Sam: It did so what happened?
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Kim: I couldn't have any more surgeries.
2:19
Kim: I wasn't going to the bathroom.
2:21
Kim: I mean, it just got to a point where the doctors just kind of threw their hands up and said, there isn't much left for us to do for you.
2:28
Kim: This is the way you're gonna live.
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Kim: And that's kind of the way that Western medicine treats people.
2:35
Kim: And so that's what's so important about being your own patient advocate, is that you're able to understand your body.
2:41
Kim: And I worked in Western medicine since 2004, and I still didn't fully grasp the concept of root causes.
2:49
Kim: I didn't teach people when I was a professor root causes, like what's making you sick.
2:54
Kim: You can throw surgeries on it, you can add medications into your life, you can even do all the supplements.
3:00
Kim: But until you fully realize what your root cause is, you're gonna continue to have problems with your health.
3:07
Sam: So 2004.
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Sam: Yeah.
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Sam: So at this point, how you were over a decade into Western medicine working in the field.
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Sam: Yes.
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Sam: And while you were working in it, you were simultaneously getting treated in it with these surgeries that weren't solving or getting to the root of what was happening.
3:24
Sam: So what happened after that?
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Sam: Did it, did your health even more escalate in the wrong direction?
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Kim: So we moved out here in 2019, at the end of 2019, and I had a pretty big awakening of Western medicine isn't always right.
3:42
Kim: And how do you use herbs as part of your assistance with the ailment?
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Kim: And then you have to, I had to learn all the herbs, right?
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Kim: Because it just wasn't something that was in my vocabulary.
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Kim: So I grounded myself here.
3:59
Sam: You came out here.
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Sam: Okay, you said you had an awakening.
4:02
Sam: Right.
4:02
Sam: What actually triggered the awakening?
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Kim: I just felt it.
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Kim: I just knew we had were wrapping up our life into coma and I could feel this sense of urgency to get out to our property to heal me.
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Kim: I just felt like if I don't do it right now, I'm gonna regret this the rest of my life.
4:21
Kim: So there was an urgency to get out here.
4:23
Kim: And then once we did get out here, we we realized that the environmental toxins played a really big part in what was going on with my health.
4:33
Kim: But, you know, we didn't know it right away.
4:36
Kim: So we lived out here, we worked out here.
4:38
Kim: I was slowly getting worse while I was trying to build the home because we built our own log home.
4:44
Kim: So I was getting worse, declining.
4:46
Kim: Well, now we know it was the mold trailer and the parasites in the water, which when you're this chronically ill, you you just take it all on and you end up getting worse because your body doesn't know how to process it out.
5:02
Sam: So you already had Lyme?
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Kim: Well, I didn't have Lyme diagnosis yet.
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Kim: I just got diagnosed in December with chronic Lyme.
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Sam: But it was in your body.
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Sam: Yeah.
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Sam: You just weren't aware yet.
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Sam: Right.
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Sam: You already had Lyme going on, endo atomiosis, which is a scar tissue disease.
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Kim: I had mold, which we found out later, parasites, which I found out later, and just overall like swelling constantly.
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Kim: My skin was in a terrible state, which was a huge indication of something going on in your gut, an imbalance in your body, and not going to the bathroom.
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Kim: I mean, that really is a struggle for a lot of chronically ill people.
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Kim: One, you're not moving your body, right?
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Kim: You're teaching me how moving your body is so, so important.
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Kim: And just even a little movement, which when you're so chronically ill, you can't really move, right?
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Kim: You're so tired.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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Kim: And we just kind of came to the conclusion that this was what was our life was gonna be like.
6:02
Sam: And you accepted it.
6:04
Kim: We did.
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Sam: That feels like a really hopeless place to be in.
6:09
Kim: Yeah.
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Sam: So how did you come out of that?
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Sam: How did you come back from that?
6:15
Kim: Well, I didn't want to die.
6:18
Kim: I didn't want to die.
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Kim: And that's such a moving statement.
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Kim: But when you're so sick and you I've been sick for my whole life, I was chronically as a child, but this took it to a whole nother level.
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Kim: And I could feel myself circling the drain.
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Kim: And I could see those scenarios with my husband, you know, and that was a really big thing, is I didn't want to leave him.
6:45
Kim: I was out here building my dream home and I wanted to see it finished.
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Kim: So this house really did have a huge part to play in all of this.
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Kim: I had to kind of give up on that dream and just hope that my husband would finish the log home, which he did.
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Sam: So you were sharing with me this moment you had where you promised if you survived and stayed alive, what you were gonna dedicate your life to do.
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Sam: So, what was that?
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Kim: I've dedicated my life to helping others to understand their body.
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Kim: I want people to heal.
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Kim: There's really no reason for us to be sick.
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Kim: There's no reason for us to sit in this pain and not understand.
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Kim: And in our bucket is overflowing because of environmental toxins and heavy metals and mold that we don't even all know we've been exposed to.
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Kim: So much mold.
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Kim: And water, you know, our water is contaminated in our country.
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Kim: When there's contaminations like heavy metals and parasites in your water, you're not getting that fundamental health start where you need that.
7:54
Sam: So hold on, you're saying the water in America isn't perfect and clean and parasites aren't just in third world countries.
8:03
Sam: That's what you're saying.
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Kim: We had parasites in our water.
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Kim: That's what this whole thing started because we thought we were out on our land that had the best water ever, which is what everyone told us.
8:16
Kim: This is the best water.
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Kim: And well water, this isn't the best water.
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Kim: You still have to filter your water no matter what you're doing, where you're at.
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Kim: But we were out here thinking, oh, yeah, we're not drinking the water.
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Kim: We had filters, reverse osmosis.
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Kim: We had multiple different layers on the drinking water, but we were brushing our teeth.
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Kim: We were rinsing our produce with the contaminated water.
8:42
Sam: You told me you would also put your contacts in after putting the water in.
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Sam: So you were putting them into your eye.
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Kim: Yep.
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Kim: And I had a worm in my left eye.
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Kim: It swam multiple years.
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Kim: I went to the eye doctor and he said, Oh, that's just normal.
8:57
Kim: The floaters are normal.
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Kim: Well, after cleansing, I now know that floaters are not normal.
9:03
Kim: And luckily, I come from this world.
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Kim: Western medicine is something that I hold near and dear to my heart.
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Kim: Um, I don't agree with everything, but I do believe we need it.
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Kim: And I do believe that you can do prophylactic type of treatment so that you don't continue to get sick.
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Kim: And herbs can do that for you.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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Kim: And I did not ever think that that would be the case in life because I was so in Western medicine.
9:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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Kim: You know, I believed in it.
9:34
Kim: I believed in it professionally and I believed in it personally.
9:38
Sam: I just have to say this really quick, okay?
9:40
Sam: The people that work here, good their job.
9:46
Sam: They love what they're doing.
9:47
Sam: And it really is because your love for what you do, your intention, your heart, your mind, and your love.
9:56
Sam: It's the head of the whole operation.
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Sam: And it really does transfer over and you feel it here.
10:02
Sam: You really do.
10:03
Sam: Thanks.
10:04
Sam: You've built something so powerful.
10:06
Sam: Can we just pause for a moment to highlight the fact we're in this how many square feet?
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Kim: It's uh 10,000 square feet.
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Sam: We're in a 10,000 square feet manufacturing production facility for Rogers Hood that I mean, she went from going viral, creating her own cleanse, to this in less than four years, really three and a half, and to build the level of company that you have in that short amount of time to literally what you're seeing here is beyond inspiring.
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Sam: Thanks.
10:42
Sam: And it's like really like much respect, Kim Rogers, because it's no joke.
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Sam: You are a force.
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Kim: It's no joke, that's for sure.
10:51
Kim: It's wild.
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Kim: Yeah.
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Kim: Because we started in 175 square feet.
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Sam: The tenacity for you all to just be like, we're starting, and we're starting homemade, and we're doing this thing no matter what.
11:02
Sam: So started off in 175 square feet.
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Sam: Uh if you didn't know, let me let you know.
11:08
Sam: Kim Rogers is a master manifestor, and she will manifest things within seconds.
11:13
Sam: Seconds.
11:14
Sam: Yes.
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Sam: And you are a builder, like literally, and also in the unseen in your mind.
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Sam: You're always building, you're always envisioning.
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Sam: So I'm curious, when you very first went viral, decided you were going to create your own parasite cleanse, did you see it already being as big as it is now, or did you even see it bigger than it is even is yet?
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Sam: Or what did you see in the beginning?
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Kim: Well, I for sure saw the blue bottles, the white labels, the tinctures, uh binder.
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Kim: So I went viral in July, and then around September is when I started manifesting the Parify kit.
11:53
Kim: And Jeremy actually came up with the name Parrify.
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Kim: Nice.
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Kim: It means parasite purified.
11:58
Kim: Good job, Jair.
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Kim: We love it.
11:59
Kim: Good job, Jair.
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Kim: He's a really amazing person to do all of this with because he has that mind as well.
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Kim: And I can talk things out to him and draw it up, and then he just runs with it.
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Kim: Well, he's also a generator, like just like Sam.
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Kim: And the word doers.
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Kim: I don't talk about this.
12:17
Kim: I don't because everybody goes through something, right?
12:20
Kim: Okay.
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Kim: But it was definitely a struggle living in a travel trailer, going and watching my husband build, giving instructions to Erica to start building this side of the business, and me literally just sitting in a chair in my travel trailer.
12:36
Sam: Why were you sitting in a chair?
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Kim: I was so sick, I could not go outside.
12:41
Sam: Could you even get out of the chair?
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Kim: Not on a not on an everyday basis.
12:45
Kim: Not every day.
12:46
Sam: You lived from that chair.
12:48
Kim: I did.
12:48
Kim: I would get up.
12:49
Kim: I've always left the bed.
12:52
Kim: Like I've never been a chronically ill person that lays in bed all day.
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Kim: But I go from my bed to my chair, and I would sit in my chair, and I would have my entire office surrounding me, and I would not leave that chair.
13:05
Kim: And it was really hard because I was watching everyone else live my life, and all I could do was just bark directions and tell people like you have to do it this way.
13:18
Kim: I couldn't get up and do it.
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Sam: Did you at the time think or know that you would make it out of that chair one day?
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Kim: Um, I had hoped, and I feel like once we found out there was mold in the trailer, I really was like, oh my God, like this is fixable, you know.
13:36
Kim: But before that, it was like a it was a really, really tough struggle.
13:41
Kim: I just never really knew what my health would be like from one day to the next.
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Kim: And you know, 2020 really hit Washington hard, and so I didn't feel like I could go to any doctors.
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Sam: But I love that during that time you've shared with me before you relied so heavily on your intuition and on the mushrooms and their wisdom, the plant wisdom to really give you the answers to pull you out.
14:04
Sam: Every day.
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Sam: Would you be willing to share any of the wisdom that the mushrooms told you or taught you during that time too that were keys to help you get out of that chair?
14:15
Kim: Cleanse.
14:16
Kim: You know, I would see worms, which always stuck out to me, like around the the land, because I would walk a lot when I towards the end of this journey, I was able to kind of go out and do some walking.
14:27
Kim: You would see worms like on the ground.
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Kim: Yeah, I would see worms, and then one day Jeremy set up uh his phone because he would record the build.
14:35
Kim: He would do it so I could be a part of it.
14:38
Kim: And there was a worm that crawled down his lens.
14:40
Kim: It was just funny.
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Sam: It was foreshadowing using Paraphy and all of these herbs to keep parasite cleansing, getting all of these harmful organisms and environmental toxins out of your body, getting out of the mold trailer.
14:53
Sam: Once you realize that there was mold there, you started to feel better and better and better, right?
14:59
Sam: So you made it out of the chair.
15:02
Kim: Made it out of the chair.
15:03
Sam: You did.
15:04
Sam: I'm so happy you did, and I'm so proud of you.
15:07
Sam: And now look where we're sitting.
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Sam: We're sitting in beautiful chairs inside of your 10,000 square foot manufacturing facility from I mean, life is just beautiful and full circle like that.
15:18
Sam: And I just have to acknowledge you because you are a fighter.
15:22
Sam: You are such a fighter, man.
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Sam: And it's really amazing.
15:26
Sam: You know, I've said to Kim so many times before, like, not only did you survive when at one point she didn't know whether or not she was gonna make it.
15:34
Sam: That's how sick Kim really was.
15:37
Sam: And not only did you survive, but you came back and thrived beyond Thrive.
15:44
Sam: And what do you actually call it?
15:45
Sam: What are you coining this?
15:47
Kim: Revenge health.
15:48
Sam: Revenge health.
15:49
Sam: Can we like break that down for a second?
15:50
Sam: Because I think it's such a genius like thing.
15:53
Sam: So break it down.
15:54
Sam: What is revenge health, Kim?
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Kim: So I'm pretty angry at my field after 2020 and everything that I learned about my body and just kind of how I was medically neglected and um borderline abused and gaslit, and then everything everyone else had to go through in 2020, I decided that it was time for me to do medical revenge and get revenge health.
16:21
Kim: Kind of like when you break up with someone and you get the revenge body.
16:25
Kim: Because I don't think people really realize that I come from Western medicine.
16:29
Kim: I was deep in it, I taught it, I wrote about it.
16:33
Kim: It was my life.
16:35
Kim: So to see a lot of the things that have happened and to see what happened to me and to be so ignored and lied to, I really want everyone else around me to be healthy.
16:46
Kim: I want to use my words to say how much I'm grateful for manifesting my colorful friend with the same letters as me, Sam.
17:01
Kim: And I saw you way back, way back, way back even in my childhood, but I also saw you while I was in the woods going through what I was going through.
17:11
Kim: And then when we moved to Seattle, I was really lost because there's this part of my life that I don't get to share with a lot of people because we did go so viral.
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Kim: We did have to start a business so fast, we did make money in the process of that.
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Kim: I was living in squalor while all of this was happening, still, because we were living in our log home with no heat and no shower in it.
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Kim: We were still showering in our trailer for almost over a year while building Rogers Hood.
17:41
Kim: It was very confusing to me because I'm like, how am I making this money and doing all these things and I'm being celebrated yet?
17:48
Kim: I'm living like this, and I don't really have a lot of people around me that to share it with.
17:53
Kim: Yes, and and so, and you have to be really careful at times who you do share it with because of intention and and bad behavior.
18:01
Kim: And so there was moments where I would say out loud, I want a friend who I can podcast with, who I can create with, who I can do social media with, who can travel with me and can just celebrate everything that I'm doing here because what I've done is wild and it's it's amazing.
18:22
Kim: And I just wanted someone that had the right intentions with me.
18:27
Kim: Not that I hadn't had that, but like I was yearning, I was yearning for a friend.
18:33
Kim: I was reaching out to anybody that wanted to be my friend, and not everyone that was wanting to be my friend was there for the right intentions.
18:42
Kim: And I remember we moved into this beautiful apartment downtown Seattle, which was always a dream of mine, and um, it was just a gorgeous right on the water, I mean, right down at Pike, like you couldn't have gotten any cooler in in Seattle than where we had rented this apartment, and it might not be that same to someone thinking, oh, it's an apartment, but it was just about the state of my being at that time.
19:05
Kim: I had gotten myself out of the moldy woods for sure.
19:08
Kim: We financially were comfortable after being poverty stricken, literally bankrupt.
19:14
Kim: And here I'm living in this beautiful apartment downtown Seattle, and it was just amazing.
19:20
Kim: My niece helped me find it, she was there, and I just wanted someone to share that with that wouldn't want to be around me for bad intentions.
19:30
Kim: And I remember meeting Sam, and I remember we met in November, and I said out loud in February, I want to say it was February 23rd.
19:39
Kim: I mean, that's how much I really genuinely remember me standing in my master bath saying, I want a friend who's fun, can podcast, can do social media with me, can be my partner in crime, who can we can have fun.
19:56
Kim: And it could be male or female, and I had a friend at that time that I thought, oh, this is it.
20:01
Kim: And then, like that afternoon, me and you started to decide we were gonna meet up on your birthday.
20:12
Sam: You showed up in my life exactly when I needed you.
20:18
Sam: How could I not be grateful?
20:20
Sam: You know, how could you not be grateful?
20:22
Sam: Like life is it's beyond what we really even know.
20:27
Sam: But I I'm telling you at that time, like you were just a the perfect fit for what I didn't even know I needed or what I didn't even know I'd been looking for for a long time, and it just like clicked and aligned.
20:40
Kim: This isn't a woe is me.
20:41
Kim: This is really about how I was one way, and then my life totally did a 180 into another way, and all of these things came at me so fast, and I handled them very well as they were coming at me, but there was this part that I needed.
20:59
Kim: Yeah, there was a part that I needed to to reach out and go through that fear because I never really had a lot of friends growing up.
21:07
Sam: You never had a close girlfriend like me before me.
21:10
Kim: No, yeah, no, which is I never did even in the hardest parts of my life the last few years.
21:17
Kim: We get we've been there supporting and understanding, and just you know, it's a lot of moving parts.
21:24
Kim: It's something that wasn't I wasn't prepared for, I wasn't expected, and in I'm so grateful for it.
21:31
Sam: I really there's that gratitude, yeah, and I'm really, really grateful for you, and I'm so glad we manifested each other.
21:37
Sam: Oh, yeah.
21:38
Sam: And I'm glad we manifested this podcast and just all the things that we do on the podcast.
21:43
Kim: It's helping me through my mental health things because it really is a journey and it's an invisible one.
21:51
Kim: So people don't always understand that and aren't supportive and they're not gonna stick around.
21:57
Sam: Yeah.
21:57
Sam: You know?
21:58
Sam: Yeah.
21:58
Kim: So you guys really like.
22:00
Sam: Waded through it with me and the people who your tribe who will help you, you know, that's so important.
22:07
Sam: It's so important.
22:08
Kim: It's every so important.
22:09
Kim: We talk about how whenever we're apart and I'm going through it, we're like, soul family.
22:14
Sam: Oh man, when we're together, it's literally soul medicine.
22:17
Sam: We look at our aura ring charts and we're in like we're literally like chill when we're with each other.
22:22
Sam: It's good, we're good for each other's nervous systems.
22:25
Kim: This all started with me because of endometriosis.
22:28
Kim: Yeah.
22:29
Kim: And so it really has a huge part of why I'm so vocal about all of this.
22:34
Kim: You know, I'm pretty young still considering everything I'd been through, but you know, they just didn't have an idea of exactly what to do with me as I was progressively getting worse with the endometriosis.
22:48
Sam: Well, let's dive into that then.
22:49
Sam: How uh to your story and journey a little bit about endo.
22:53
Sam: It's not normal to have, but it's very common.
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Kim: Well, 200 million women worldwide have endometriosis diagnosed.
23:01
Kim: And I'm, you know, statistically, I like to always throw out numbers, but always check your own facts.
23:07
Kim: And so six to eight times more than like diabetes and Alzheimer's, and there's very minimal studies that are done, and you know, they always say there's no cure.
23:18
Kim: And so you kind of go through the the medicine, Western medicine world when it comes to endometriosis.
23:25
Kim: You do everything they say because you're in so much pain.
23:28
Kim: And I always say what a crazy disease it is because it can cause infertility, which is what happened with me.
23:35
Kim: And you know, you look pregnant, and so it's kind of a wild, like psychological thing that happens to people that have endo.
23:43
Kim: And so for me, I had stage four endometriosis.
23:48
Kim: I had a hysterectomy when I was 29.
23:50
Kim: I'm 47 years old now.
23:52
Kim: I don't have children.
23:54
Kim: And I had five surgeries prior to the hysterectomy and then five surgeries after the hysterectomy.
24:01
Kim: I was on lupron twice, which is a form of chemo.
24:05
Kim: I had been on depot for 10 years.
24:08
Kim: I was then put on pills.
24:11
Kim: And so if you add all of that up, it was my whole life, basically.
24:16
Kim: It's really what took me to being chronically ill to the to the ground, basically, is you know, that disease, even when you have a hysterectomy, they come back and say, Oh, well, that should cure it.
24:27
Kim: No, it doesn't, because it's all over your body.
24:30
Kim: And when I would go to the doctor and I would say, Listen, I got a spot on my lung, you know, they would do MRIs and CTs.
24:37
Kim: There was a spot on my liver, spot on my kidneys.
24:39
Kim: They're like, There's no way endometriosis is all over your body.
24:43
Kim: Well, it was, and they say it all the time now, but it was a thing back then where it was so new that they wouldn't come out and be like, it can spread all over your body.
24:53
Kim: They just didn't want to admit it because they don't really know how to help you.
24:57
Sam: In your opinion, what causes endometriosis?
25:02
Kim: Well, I mean, there's a lot of factors, but for me personally, what my issues were were one was schistamycin, which is a parasite that goes inside of your reproductive systems and your bladder, and it's from freshwater or snails.
25:18
Kim: And so I read a lot of different studies, specifically after I went viral over worms, that there are a lot of unnecessary hysterectomies.
25:27
Kim: And this is on the NIH, the National Institute for Health, and that's a governmental site that says that shishomycin mirrors different diseases that can cause you to need an unnecessary hysterectomy.
25:41
Kim: And I feel like in that moment, it was about a month into after I went viral in July of 2021, around August is when I started digging in a little bit more.
25:50
Kim: And I really just had to grieve, honestly, in those moments, right?
25:55
Kim: And I thought, oh my gosh, I can't even believe that I'm reading this and I come from this world, and how did I not know this?
26:04
Kim: And why didn't I look at this before I went and did this life-altering surgery?
26:10
Sam: And after all of your 13 surgeries, is when you discovered somehow that you had shishtomycin?
26:16
Kim: Yeah.
26:16
Kim: So I figured out in July of 2021 when I went viral over the parasite cleansing that I had pinworms, round worm, crypto, chronic Lyme, mold exposure to a mold illness status since I was born into mold.
26:36
Kim: You guys, if you've watched anything I've ever said, I literally have gone down this rabbit hole of my genes, my mom's genes.
26:43
Kim: I was born into mold.
26:44
Kim: Like we figured out that where my dad was, where my parents were living when I was born had mold.
26:50
Kim: So like I've really gone down this huge wormhole of everything.
26:53
Kim: But I look back now and I realize that all of these things contributed.
26:58
Kim: Because all the things that are being said now about don't eat the plastic, dunno, don't eat things out of plastic.
27:03
Kim: I never really did that.
27:05
Kim: When I found out that I had endometriosis and how sick I genuinely was, I didn't eat chicken unless it was hormone-free.
27:14
Kim: So Tyson at the time was hormone-free chicken.
27:17
Kim: And then I always used filters.
27:20
Kim: And I do contribute the fact that water filters are necessary for people that have these autoimmune diseases, which now Endo might be in the autoimmune world.
27:29
Kim: I don't know for sure, but it definitely wasn't back then, which it's, I mean, it's all just labels, right?
27:34
Kim: However, I followed all of these, no plastics, no hormones, because they shoot all of that up inside of our meat.
27:44
Kim: So I was very conscientious since around my 20s, the beginning of my 20s.
27:49
Kim: To the best you could with what the info you had at the time because I didn't want the hormones of the meat.
27:56
Kim: And it when I would eat it, it would really spike my estrogen.
28:00
Kim: And then I would go weeks, months not feeling well.
28:04
Kim: And you know, I think the hardest part is how personally it affects your sex life.
28:10
Kim: It affects even sometimes when I would wipe, I would bleed.
28:14
Kim: So I mean, there were so many aspects of what this particular disease did to me.
28:20
Kim: And then unfortunately, because I had so many surgeries, I then pivoted into another disease called atomiosis, which is a scar tissue disease.
28:28
Kim: And I actually took that scar tissue disease and I realized about turkey's tail, right?
28:35
Kim: So that is how that disease and me knowing about turkey tail mushroom, which is in one of our kits, the lymph kit, but I take it at five grams a day because it breaks the scar tissue down, which the endometriosis was attaching itself to.
28:51
Kim: And so at one point, my body, because all my organs were shifted up to the side, because it was just encased in scar tissue.
29:01
Kim: So it was like this this uh this you know, pocket that all my organs would set up onto the side of it.
29:08
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
29:08
Kim: I mean, it was real rough, man.
29:10
Kim: And some of my surgeries were brutal.
29:13
Kim: The 2019 surgery was so brutal, that's when my doctor said, You can't do this anymore, Kim.
29:18
Kim: Like, this is it, no more.
29:19
Kim: You can't have any more surgeries.
29:21
Sam: 13 would 13 surgeries, yeah.
29:22
Sam: That's enough anyway.
29:23
Sam: Yeah.
29:24
Sam: Goodness gracious.
29:25
Kim: So one is enough.
29:26
Kim: It was, I mean, and in and they do it like every two years.
29:30
Kim: So Jeremy and I, that's my husband, would prepare every two years.
29:35
Kim: It my jobs dictated when I could do it.
29:38
Kim: I needed always to have insurance.
29:40
Kim: So for me, the idea that it was like this reproductive issue, it was so much more to me because it really ruled my life.
29:49
Sam: I'm sorry.
29:50
Sam: It just doesn't make sense.
29:51
Sam: Why the way these bodies are designed, these self-healing bodies, just how incredible the systems, every system, every organ, right?
29:59
Kim: It just doesn't make sense to me that they're it didn't make sense to me either, Sam.
30:03
Kim: It didn't make sense to me either.
30:05
Kim: And I would question them.
30:07
Kim: I would question them.
30:08
Kim: So I knew, you know, we've talked in a joking way that like I believe we're time travelers, and it's because I have too many things that I never would have known unless it was like me in this moment, right?
30:22
Kim: Going and telling me then, hey, yo, you really need to look closely at your surgery videos.
30:28
Kim: Okay.
30:29
Kim: So I looked at surgery videos because they would give you everything.
30:31
Sam: Hold on, wait, wait.
30:33
Sam: They filmed your surgeries and you could watch them?
30:35
Kim: So many.
30:36
Sam: I don't even know that's a thing.
30:37
Kim: Oh, all of the surgery videos.
30:40
Kim: I have pictures of my surgeries, and you know, I have a little autism.
30:44
Kim: And so we have some tisms.
30:47
Kim: And so I literally would scroll in, I would spread my screen, and I would look at these weird things that I would say, this kind of looks like a worm.
31:00
Kim: This is a little oblique that doesn't look like scar tissue.
31:04
Kim: And you guys know I come from Western medicine, so you don't question, right?
31:09
Kim: I questioned all the time.
31:11
Kim: I questioned all the time.
31:13
Kim: I asked them so many times.
31:15
Kim: I had to change surgeons because I questioned so much.
31:18
Sam: Did you ever say to a doctor or a surgeon or any medical professional that looks like a worm?
31:24
Kim: Yes, what did they say?
31:26
Kim: Multiple times.
31:27
Kim: I can I am not gonna name the names, but I have goosebumps multiple times.
31:32
Kim: There's no way you have worms, Kim.
31:33
Sam: So they like laughed at you and thought you were crazy.
31:36
Kim: They totally gaslit me.
31:36
Sam: They gaslit you.
31:37
Kim: They totally gaslit me.
31:39
Kim: And I'm like, okay, no problem, you know, because worms are a frequency, they can control your mind a little, a lot, they can tell you what to eat, but they can also tell you that you're wrong.
31:50
Kim: That there's no way you have worms.
31:53
Kim: And I know for a fact they can do that because I had some come out my face, and that's what made me go so viral.
32:01
Kim: Is I used to have like this weird red thing, and when I squeezed it once, things came out.
32:05
Sam: So hold on really quick.
32:06
Sam: Moving.
32:07
Sam: Are you saying that worms gaslight you too?
32:09
Sam: A hundred percent worms gaslight you to make you think you don't have worms so that you keep feeding them and they can survive.
32:17
Sam: News flash.
32:18
Sam: This is big news, everyone.
32:20
Sam: Worms are gaslighters.
32:23
Sam: So this proves they live in our reproductive organs.
32:28
Sam: Right.
32:28
Sam: Do you think a lot of women who have endo have worms and parasites in their reproductive organs?
32:37
Kim: I did.
32:38
Kim: Do you just do you believe that a lot of women that have endocrine?
32:42
Sam: I believe it.
32:42
Sam: Okay.
32:43
Kim: I believe that women have worms in their reproductive system, and when you think it's a clot that comes out, it's very much not.
32:54
Kim: Ooh, that's crazy.
32:57
Kim: They literally move in and out of the muscle, the tissue, and the blood.
33:02
Kim: And a lot of people that go get things like live blood analysis, which is where they pull the blood out of your arm and then they look at it under a microscope while it's alive and moving, and they see things immediately.
33:15
Kim: I think we've just in such a world that we just don't think that this is possible for us as humans.
33:21
Kim: And it very much is a problem, but there's a solution.
33:25
Kim: And I just wonder like how much louder you can go with this solution.
33:31
Kim: Because there's so many people that have done the paraphy kit, done the lymphatic kit, done antiparasitics in general that have just made them feel better.
33:41
Kim: What I had to go through when I was 29 to where I'm at now, it's wild.
33:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
33:46
Kim: It's wild how many health issues I have because my body doesn't have that, you know, progesterone and estrogen.
33:54
Kim: Like it really just doesn't perform like a normally a normal woman of my age should.
33:59
Kim: I don't think at this point in women's lives and where we're at is that we have as many choices as we would like to have, specifically more natural choices, right?
34:11
Kim: And I felt very much in my time when I was going through all of this that I had no choices, that I had zero choices.
34:20
Kim: And I feel like that's one reason why I'm so loud about this, because hey, you have options.
34:26
Sam: You have other things you haven't heard of.
34:28
Sam: There's other things you haven't treated.
34:30
Kim: Before you make a life-altering surgery or decision, I know looking back now that if I could have had some sort of a parasite test, mold test, or Lyme test, that I know my options wouldn't have been you need a hysterectomy.
34:44
Kim: Oh, and by the way, you're going to have repeated surgeries.
34:48
Kim: I mean, it's not a little surgery.
34:50
Kim: They have to, it, it's just so much that it's hard to even explain what 13 surgeries over my 20 years of my life that I've had that.
35:03
Kim: I just feel like there's so many other options for women nowadays.
35:07
Kim: And you're not just stuck in a corner of like, oh my God, I'm alone.
35:12
Kim: Because chronically ill, you're alone.
35:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
35:14
Kim: And to be honest with you, it's not even just about when you get out of it.
35:18
Kim: I still struggle to this day.
35:21
Sam: Do you think if you would have known about parasite cleansing back then in your 20s, if you would have parasite cleansed and gotten the worms and the parasites and the toxic load and the environmental toxins out, do you think it could have prevented you from having the hysterectomy or any of those surgeries?
35:44
Sam: Yes.
35:45
Sam: Wow.
35:45
Sam: Without a shadow of doubt.
35:46
Kim: If paraphy is 100% positive.
35:50
Sam: 100%.
35:51
Kim: I'm 100%.
35:52
Kim: I will never waver from that.
35:54
Kim: I believe without a hundred percent doubt, that if I had the opportunity to have parasite cleansed with paraphy or any antiparasitics, that I would not have needed a hysterectomy nor 13 surgeries.
36:08
Kim: Co-infections for Lyme is mold.
36:11
Kim: Wow.
36:12
Kim: And parasites.
36:13
Kim: We're like magnets.
36:14
Kim: We Lyme loves gathering its friends and parting.
36:19
Kim: Bartonella, Bapisia, worms, worms, parasites, bad bacteria viruses.
36:26
Kim: Yes, we are we happen to have a higher amount in our bodies because we already have a weakened immune system.
36:33
Kim: Yeah.
36:33
Kim: And what's crazy about Lyme is it literally comes in like a mirror in front of your immune system and it's all sneaky and and whatever, you know, it's all sneaky in front of your immune system holding a mirror.
36:48
Kim: And as it's doing that, the immune system is thinking, oh, I'm I'm healthy, I'm good.
36:53
Kim: So it lets its guard down.
36:55
Kim: And all the while that these shitheads in the back are just like, you know, stomping behind the mirror, which is crazy.
37:02
Kim: And usually they can hold on to spores because it's a sparakeet, it's burrowing down into your muscle and your tissue, and a sparakeet looks like a very skinny piece of thread that spirals down.
37:15
Kim: Okay.
37:16
Kim: So it corkscrews down into your blood, your tissue, and your muscle and in your joints, and then it has to spiral itself out.
37:25
Kim: The thing about it is it has a very hard shell.
37:29
Kim: The biofilm for Lyme is no joke.
37:32
unknown: Really?
37:33
Kim: So it burrows itself down and then it coats over their hole that they burrowed down.
37:39
Kim: Guess what?
37:40
Kim: Your body has no idea what hit it because of that hard biofilm.
37:45
Kim: Wow.
37:45
Kim: That's the thing, is that they don't really have a full answer of what has caused people to get Lyme, other than, you know, for me, 30 years ago I got bit by tick.
37:55
Kim: I can I can target exactly when my behavior and my health changed when I was a child after I left the camp that my sister was going to, and I got bit by 10 ticks.
38:07
Kim: And it was crazy because the nurses there were like, we've never seen anything like this.
38:11
Kim: I'm this toehead blonde.
38:13
Kim: And after that, we realized that I had to get my head checked whenever I went outside.
38:18
Kim: I would have to come in and flip my hair and have my mom go through all of my hair because ticks were magnets to me, and we didn't really understand why.
38:27
Kim: And now we kind of have a better understanding because I carried the bacteria in my body.
38:32
Sam: Interesting.
38:33
Sam: Did you start having symptoms or notice a change in you or anything after that that you can recall back when you were 10?
38:40
Sam: Because as far as I understand your story, you didn't even find out you actually had Lyme until way later in life.
38:46
Sam: Three years ago.
38:46
Sam: Three years ago from now.
38:48
Sam: I'm 47.
38:48
Sam: So from 10 years old to that, yeah.
38:50
Sam: That's uh what three decades?
38:53
Sam: Yeah.
38:53
Sam: Okay.
38:54
Sam: So did you looking back in hindsight, was there any kind of shift that took place in you from that day on?
39:00
Sam: Like what?
39:01
Sam: What did you notice the difference?
39:03
Kim: So I would, you know, my age really is not as relevant.
39:07
Kim: I remember when I was around 12, my behavior changed.
39:11
Kim: I had a massive amount of strep.
39:13
Kim: Like I, my sister had ear infections and I had strep, which now going backwards, it all makes sense because I have pandas, which is like a pediatric uh neurological disorder where my brain swells, and I had it since I got bit.
39:27
Kim: So looking at that, I mean, I had strep.
39:31
Kim: My mom was ill um growing up.
39:33
Kim: I had a chronically ill mom.
39:35
Kim: She is just the best, though.
39:36
Kim: Just love her so much.
39:38
Kim: We love Debbie.
39:38
Kim: Yeah, she she's why I went into medicine, is because of my mom.
39:42
Kim: Um, I really wanted to know what was wrong with her, and we figured it out over the last few years.
39:46
Kim: So that's pretty cool.
39:48
Kim: But I would say, yeah, I had a huge behavioral shift.
39:51
Kim: I blacked out a lot in rage.
39:53
Kim: So looking back now, like my family and I are really aware of what my health was like now.
39:58
Kim: Back then they didn't understand it and they feel bad because none of us knew, you know, none of us knew.
40:03
Kim: And then I'm a typical American.
40:05
Kim: My dad was in the military, so I was Western medicine.
40:09
Kim: I got all of the, you know, like 50 of them or something, MMR and HEPS, and like all of the things you're supposed to get.
40:16
Kim: And so I got those heavy metals, right?
40:19
Kim: So whatever was going on, it was just compounded.
40:22
Kim: And then looking back now, I know that house had mold.
40:25
Kim: Oh gosh.
40:27
Kim: I know I had mold in my body from my mom from when I was born in Santa Barbara.
40:33
Sam: You had a lot of odds already stepped in.
40:36
Sam: Already, so it was like you were just like a prime opportunity for these ticks.
40:40
Sam: Prime and ready.
40:42
Sam: For me, you're in a better place than I've ever experienced you since meeting you.
40:46
Sam: And it's just a testament that when you do stay very committed to your health, it's like you can have all these things.
40:53
Sam: I mean, to be honest, you guys, I've never heard anyone list off as many things as this woman has in her body and that you've experienced health-wise.
41:01
Sam: Yeah.
41:01
Sam: And so the fact you are alive and kicking and thriving, like good on you, friend.
41:08
Kim: Cause that's no joke.
41:09
Kim: What was I gonna do?
41:10
Kim: I already started to kind of give up when I went into the woods.
41:13
Kim: I mean, I I made peace with everything that was going on with me, and that I didn't have any real help in it, and I already made some peace with it.
41:22
Kim: But then one day I just woke up and I was pissed.
41:25
Kim: Yeah.
41:26
Kim: And that was it.
41:26
Kim: Yeah, like that day forward.
41:28
Kim: I'm like, I'm not living my life like this anymore.
41:31
Kim: Whatever comes my way, they're just labels.
41:33
Kim: I have a question for you, Sam.
41:35
Kim: Oh, what is it like to have a chronically ill friend?
41:38
Kim: And how does that make you feel on a daily?
41:42
Kim: And how do you navigate that?
41:44
Kim: Totally.
41:45
Sam: So it took me a while to even fully comprehend how chronically ill you actually were.
41:51
Sam: It's hard to digest being someone who isn't chronically ill, you can go through flares or peaks and valleys and shifts and changes faster than your average person.
42:05
Sam: So once you overstand that, then if you just approach it with just like support and love and understanding, then you can also be there just as a support.
42:16
Sam: So someone is and is uh a steady reflection.
42:19
Sam: Cause I do notice for you specifically with your chronic illnesses, they do affect you mentally and emotionally.
42:24
Sam: So I love to be a solid, stable, and steady mirror in your life to like always reflect back to you the truth.
42:30
Sam: So if your brain is lying to you because it's misfiring, because you're in a flare of either PTSD or Lyme or pandas or what was the other thing we thought you had?
42:39
Sam: What like is there's all these things like the what was the other thing, what was the other thing, you know, or the infection, immune and cephalidin, and uh, you know, and the and the infection and from your tooth into your brain, whatever, like all these things, right?
42:54
Sam: Um, even just stress and pressure of life.
42:56
Sam: So that I'll say to you, you know, when you have a chronically ill family member or friend, pressure and stress in their life, whatever it comes from, it can also like add up and accumulate and it can cause them to like be in a flare.
43:10
Sam: So really, I would say like it's not like it's like a big thing to me because um it's easy to navigate when you just love somebody.
43:18
Sam: It's just like easy to just be a support.
43:20
Sam: And honestly, you're like doing really well.
43:22
Sam: Thanks.
43:23
Sam: So it's not like you're, you know, I didn't, we weren't friends in your worst part where like you actually were immobile and like stuck in a chair and couldn't move.
43:32
Sam: And I think that that's a different level.
43:33
Sam: You're so easy to love and accept and navigate life with, you know.
43:40
Sam: Um, the one thing I love about you is you're such a fighter and you're solution based, which we always like Bishop and I are always encouraging you and like reminding you to stay there mentally, but you're like that anyway.
43:52
Sam: It's like you won't stay in it, you know.
43:54
Sam: Um, we have this uh three minute rule of the camera like you get three minutes to cry and Throw your tater.
44:00
Sam: Like, you know, last time you were kind of in a flare, I was like, all right, should we set a timer?
44:04
Sam: How many minutes do you need?
44:05
Sam: I was like, how many minutes do you need to let this all out?
44:07
Sam: You know?
44:07
Sam: Oh, yeah.
44:08
Sam: Like, I think like, you're like, I think like 10.
44:10
Sam: I'm like, okay, cool.
44:11
Sam: So I sat there with her in it, supportive, understanding, listening to her, and then about five in, I'm like, you got about five minutes left, girl.
44:18
Sam: You know, we're getting out of this thing.
44:19
Sam: We're not staying there, you know, we're not wallowing in it, you know?
44:22
Sam: Yeah.
44:22
Sam: But no, I mean, yeah, it's it's different.
44:25
Sam: It's different.
44:25
Sam: Um, it it makes you, to be honest, I think it it probably expanded my empathy even more and compassion even more, which I already have a lot of, but it expanded that more just for humans, period.
44:36
Sam: And their health, and like you never know what someone's going through.
44:38
Sam: You really don't.
44:39
Sam: You really don't.
44:40
Sam: Like, like in their personal life behind closed doors, you really don't know the struggles that anyone's going through.
44:46
Sam: And like, so just having compassion and patience and empathy is like really that's like those are keys.
44:52
Sam: So if you do have a chronically ill friend or family member, I would say use those.
44:56
Sam: Yeah, use those tools.
44:58
Sam: What you like that answer?
44:59
Kim: It was so good.
45:00
Kim: I'm so lucky.
45:02
Kim: I'm so lucky.
45:03
Kim: I think about it every day.
45:05
Kim: Because not a lot of people hang for long periods of time with chronically ill people.
45:09
Kim: Sure.
45:10
Kim: It becomes somewhat of a burden, and that's how we feel as a chronically ill person, is there's a burden there, and I try and lighten that burden with people around me by giving things that you know, like this.
45:23
Kim: I mean, oh, I'm so lucky.
45:25
Kim: I feel so blessed to have you in my life and to be able to do this with someone who really does shine that mirror on me on a daily basis so that I don't stay in it.
45:36
Sam: Oh, I love you.
45:38
Sam: Oh my god, it's my pleasure, man.
45:40
Sam: Yeah, I love doing this with you, Kim Roger.
45:42
Sam: This is very good.
45:42
Kim: This is the best of thought, man.
45:44
Kim: Yeah, man.
45:45
Kim: And we talked about this last night.
45:46
Kim: Like, I never really thought.
45:48
Kim: Well, I always I saw Sam in a manifestation once with a colorful friend.
45:54
Kim: We have the same initial, like, you know, S-A-M, K-I-M.
45:58
Kim: So, like, I saw her, but I really didn't understand what genuine friends truly were until I met you.
46:07
Sam: I'm honored.
46:09
Sam: I'm honored.
46:10
Sam: That's great.
46:10
Sam: I mean, it's my pleasure.
46:12
Sam: I've worked to become this woman.
46:13
Sam: So the fact that just me being me enriches your life.
46:17
Kim: Yeah.
46:18
Sam: Is like such an honor for me.
46:19
Sam: We enrich all of our lives.
46:20
Kim: Oh, I love that.
46:21
Kim: The what's eating you community is so lucky to have you.
46:24
Sam: To have you too, man.
46:25
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46:26
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46:28
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46:29
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46:36
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