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Zack Peter, Grammy’s, Epstein Files and Kim K’s New Love · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we have a jam-packed show. We have one of your favorites,
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  Speaker 1: Zach Peter, my friend, gives me scoop, does the research,
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  Speaker 1: works real hard, total delight, looking cute. Welcome back. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: This is my Kim Possible outfit. Oh, I like it,
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  Speaker 1: very cute. All right, let's just get into it, because
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  Speaker 1: we have too much to cover. So the Grammys came,
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  Speaker 1: and there's so many different things that we saw.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I just saw, right before we started, the latest
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  Speaker 1: article was, how was Cher? Cher was confused. So I
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  Speaker 1: watched it. Now, Cher is 78, 79. All the plastic
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  Speaker 1: surgery in the world, You know, all the coolness about you.
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  Speaker 1: It is hard. Everyone gets old. Of course, her boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: is 40 years younger than she. Amber Rose's ex. And
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  Speaker 1: she had a blonde wig on. She was looking good.
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  Speaker 1: But what happened was they brought her out. She was
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  Speaker 1: set to present. They gave her a surprise award. She
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  Speaker 1: said thank you. Then she left. Then they're like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: you still have to do your presentation. So then she
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  Speaker 1: read the nominee's. And then she was like looking at
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  Speaker 1: the screen for the answer and then they're like, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's in the envelope. And then she said, oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: Luther Vandross, but it's not. It's the song in which
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  Speaker 1: they take the sample of his song, of his hit,
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  Speaker 1: because he died many years ago. So I watched it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it was that bad. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it could have happened to me and I'm not that old.
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  Speaker 3: But also, you know how to navigate. When you're on
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  Speaker 3: live TV, you figure out a way to navigate. Like
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  Speaker 3: she kind of just like, I felt like was a
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  Speaker 3: little spacey that it was. But also like someone should
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  Speaker 3: have rehearsed with her. Someone should have been there to
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  Speaker 3: like help guide her.
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  Speaker 1: Like it just. What is a bummer? Because she's old.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's just like, oh, she's old. If this could have
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  Speaker 1: happened to anybody that's 25, it would have been confusing.
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  Speaker 1: People have screwed up teleprompters and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So that was. At least because she's old. I think
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  Speaker 1: people give her a bit more of an excuse. You're right.
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  Speaker 1: If it were someone that was a lot younger. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They would have been dragged a lot more. Okay. The
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  Speaker 1: outfit started. First, let's just start with Heidi Klum. Lately,
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  Speaker 1: we always have to see her do her weird Halloween thing. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But lately, like I just saw that she did something
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  Speaker 1: where she was like naked with just a fur coat
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  Speaker 1: on like a dirty train track. What is with the
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  Speaker 1: thirst at this point in her life? What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, she's not relevant the way that she used
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  Speaker 3: to be. I mean, all people know her for is
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  Speaker 3: America's Got Talent. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And I just feel like she's trying to stay relevant.
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  Speaker 1: But like, you're right. It was cute when it was Valentine's.
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  Speaker 1: Not Valentine's. When it was Halloween. Now I'm having a
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  Speaker 1: Cher moment.
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  Speaker 3: It was cute when it was Halloween and she would
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  Speaker 3: wear all these like crazy outfits and you would like
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  Speaker 3: look forward to it. And now it just feels like
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  Speaker 3: she's trying so hard. Like, this is very Kim Kardashian style.
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  Speaker 3: Let me do my bodysuit.
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  Speaker 1: So it was like a plastic. It looked like it
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  Speaker 1: was almost like what you'd pour on yourself if you
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  Speaker 1: were going to make yourself a statue. And then you
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  Speaker 1: just cut it around to be a strapless dress to
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  Speaker 1: your knee. So the back of it is like a
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  Speaker 1: full cutout of the ass. She could not walk. The
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  Speaker 1: video was... It wasn't flattering from the front, honestly. Not flattering.
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  Speaker 3: She.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like, oh, I see your nipples. And it
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  Speaker 1: looks like this, like it does. It looks like someone
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  Speaker 1: threw cement or paint on her and then cut around it.
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  Speaker 1: And again, it was, I get it. It's a pain
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  Speaker 1: in the ass to go to these things. And maybe
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  Speaker 1: sometimes at a certain point, someone's like- Oh, and this helps? No,
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  Speaker 1: well- This is even more uncomfortable. Well, obviously she couldn't
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  Speaker 1: sit in that. So she did something for the carpet
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  Speaker 1: and then she either- Maybe she didn't even stay. Like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people for smaller events will just do
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  Speaker 1: the carpet and bail. And so I'm like, maybe she
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  Speaker 1: just did that. So it was like, look, if I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go and be uncomfortable, why not be really
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  Speaker 1: fucking uncomfortable? Cause you shouldn't walk in this and get
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  Speaker 1: some press out of it. Because- Zach seems to think
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  Speaker 1: I'm not that relevant anymore because all I do is
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  Speaker 1: sit and I'm on America's Got Talent. So I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it is for that. I mean, she's
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  Speaker 1: not a singer, not a producer of music. So how
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  Speaker 1: else was she going to stand out?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, what else aside from America's Got Talent,
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  Speaker 3: she doesn't have a whole lot going on. Now you
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  Speaker 3: have like the Gigi Hadid's and the Kendall Jenner's that
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  Speaker 3: are the new era of young models that are getting
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  Speaker 3: all of those big campaigns.
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  Speaker 1: And there's just not much going on in her life.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of Kendall Jenner, I ran into Caitlyn at my club.
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  Speaker 1: We belonged to the same club. And she was very
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  Speaker 1: excited to show me Kendall's Super Bowl commercial. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's very cute. It is cute. It's really cute.
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  Speaker 1: And then at the end, she said, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why they call it the Kardashian curse. That's not even
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  Speaker 1: my last name. I'm a Jenner. And Caitlyn really liked that.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, good for her. But yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: It's like there's a whole other era. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: hate her for it because, again— whatever. It got us
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  Speaker 1: something to talk about. I mean, listen, at her age
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  Speaker 1: to have a body that great is impressive. Speaking of
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  Speaker 1: the body. So then we had, uh, Chapel Roan who
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  Speaker 1: wore this thing and I took this photo of it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so I, I heard, okay, so these are not real tattoos.
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  Speaker 1: The nipples were like, it was made to look like
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  Speaker 1: her boobs were completely out and she had piercings in
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  Speaker 1: which the dress was they'd clipped on the piercing and
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  Speaker 1: the dress doesn't really start till her belly button and
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  Speaker 1: then her stylist came and adjusted her in front of
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  Speaker 1: the carpet which the cameras caught and then brought her
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  Speaker 1: hair over the boobs for the photos and of course
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  Speaker 1: it was sheer with just a g-string.
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  Speaker 3: What was the now is what was the point of
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  Speaker 3: this I find her to be so insufferable. Like, I
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  Speaker 3: hate that her music is actually kind of good. I
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  Speaker 3: hate that she has an incredible voice because I like
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  Speaker 3: her music. But every time I see her on a
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  Speaker 3: red carpet, yelling at a paparazzi, complaining like she nobody
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  Speaker 3: hates their fans more than Chapel Row, which is like,
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  Speaker 3: why do you even have fans left at this point?
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  Speaker 1: Because it's not like like Mariah Carey's a diva. Right.
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  Speaker 3: So she can be a little diva to the fans
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  Speaker 3: and they love it and the gays love it. But
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  Speaker 3: like Chaperone was on, you know, a street corner in
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  Speaker 3: Santa Monica two years ago. And now she's like become
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  Speaker 3: this big international success and good for her. But I
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  Speaker 3: just I don't like celebrities who die to become famous
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  Speaker 3: and then become famous and then hate every second of it.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, this is where I'm like, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to know and maybe she'll give an interview about
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  Speaker 1: it and we'll find out. So who thought of this?
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  Speaker 1: Who thought of this? Was it her idea? Was someone
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  Speaker 1: else's idea? Was it like, how do I stand out?
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  Speaker 1: Let's because then I that I read somewhere that that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't really her nipple rings. No, she has.
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  Speaker 3: There's like pasties that are over them. Like if you
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  Speaker 3: zoom into it, it's like a pasty that's over. And
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  Speaker 3: then that's how she gets away with it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not. So you don't see the actual. No,
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  Speaker 1: you don't see the actual nipple. It's like a covering.
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  Speaker 3: I think she has like a like whatever the tattoo
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  Speaker 3: is that's over her. It's like a really thin sheer
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  Speaker 3: thing that's like draped over her. And then, because like
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  Speaker 3: if you zoom in, the whole thing is like covered
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  Speaker 3: and it's like flesh color.
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  Speaker 1: And then the attachment is on the fabric. And then
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  Speaker 1: when she presented, she had changed into something else too. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I get it. Whatever. That was
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  Speaker 1: a lot to look at.
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  Speaker 3: It's just very like Kim Kardashian meets Rose McGowan. Like
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  Speaker 3: there's nothing new or original about it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like shock value. The only thing original is that
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  Speaker 1: these are her real boobs.
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  Speaker 3: No, Rose McGowan did it. She had her nipples out
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  Speaker 3: and all. No, but I'm saying these are... These are
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  Speaker 3: not a breast job. This is real boob. This is
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  Speaker 3: real boob because you can tell. Then Joy Villa.
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  Speaker 1: Who is she? She's an artist too. She's a singer. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: she used to be in Scientology and she left and
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  Speaker 1: hates them. So she wore this crazy jumpsuit and hat
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  Speaker 1: that says Scientology Kills. And then inside the jacket were
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  Speaker 1: all these post-its of all the people that she believed,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, have passed or something or been involved with
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  Speaker 1: Scientology somehow. And that was her goal to get that
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  Speaker 1: story out. Well, she does this every Grammys. She does
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  Speaker 1: like a big shocking. Oh, she does? I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: know that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's done like MAGA dresses in the past. Like
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  Speaker 3: she does a lot of crazy outfits.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. To make statements. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: People cannot stop talking about Kelly Osbourne's appearance. They look
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  Speaker 1: like troll dolls, Heather. And now Sharon Osbourne has been
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  Speaker 1: this thin for a very long time. I mean, truly,
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  Speaker 1: the only thing, the only fat on them are their,
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  Speaker 1: their lips. Like that's the only thing. And it's lip filler.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's like, yeah. And Sharon Osbourne
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  Speaker 1: said she took Ozempic or a version of it and,
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  Speaker 1: and like, can't get back to the weight. Like she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want to be this thin. She said that somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Kelly is just like, leave me alone. Leave me alone. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Who's going to clean your toilets? Leave me alone. And
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  Speaker 1: her arms look pretty worked out. She looks thin. I
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  Speaker 1: just wonder if it was somebody else, I'm covering up
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  Speaker 1: her face, like on my little screen, on my hand,
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  Speaker 1: but if it was somebody else and we didn't know
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  Speaker 1: her as a one-time curvy, full-faced young girl, would we
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  Speaker 1: be this Freaked out about it.
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  Speaker 3: I think the part that's jarring for me... Well, I mean, like,
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  Speaker 3: look at Bethany Franco. She's always been super skinny, so
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't really look as jarring.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I'm sure she and Bethany Franco could
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  Speaker 1: wear the same size dress.
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  Speaker 3: But when I see her, like, Instagram stories or videos, like,
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  Speaker 3: her face looks so gone and sunken in that it
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  Speaker 3: looks scary.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And she says, like, she's not eating because she's grieving and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, she's still mourning the loss of her dad
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  Speaker 3: and she can't eat or keep food down. But it just,
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  Speaker 3: it looks concerning.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think when you... Go up and
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  Speaker 1: down in your weight a lot, which she has over
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  Speaker 1: the years. And then you find something that works. I
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  Speaker 1: do think for certain people that have struggled with weight,
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  Speaker 1: it can be another form. of addiction, which she's had
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  Speaker 1: trouble with addiction as well, where you just love the
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  Speaker 1: feeling of being that small and you are okay. Like you,
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  Speaker 1: people can be this small and be fine. And, and
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  Speaker 1: then you just, but to everybody else as a public figure,
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  Speaker 1: you just look so different that it's just, that's what
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  Speaker 1: I think. I just think it's, and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: see it more and more because people are able to
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  Speaker 1: be much smaller versions of themselves. And if they're known
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  Speaker 1: as a certain type, I mean, Heather game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But her head is withering away. Her head got bigger though. Um, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Then this was kind of funny. This is, uh, um,
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  Speaker 1: let me see who a TI and tiny, and they
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  Speaker 1: just looked like they were going to like a pickleball tournament.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand what this outfit, it was like country
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  Speaker 1: club chic. They chose to wear it. I think, I
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  Speaker 1: just realized, I think they were smart. They wanted to
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  Speaker 1: wear something yellow so that the backdrop of the yellow
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  Speaker 1: CBS would pop.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And this is all they had in their closet. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I think happened. Well, I also think they're like
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  Speaker 1: not like a T.I. is not of 2020 fame. Right.
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  Speaker 3: He's like early 2000s. So he's just like, oh, you
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  Speaker 3: just wear a nice outfit to the award show. You
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  Speaker 3: don't wear nipple piercings like all these over the top
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  Speaker 3: outlandish outfits that are meant to get attention. Like he's
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  Speaker 3: just like, you know, he just thinks you just put
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  Speaker 3: on a nice outfit and then went.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. OK, so Justin Bieber comes out to perform. He
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  Speaker 1: comes out with a purple guitar and just a pair
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  Speaker 1: of like boxer shorts. completely shirtless. And I love his music.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I love his songs and this song I'm
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  Speaker 1: in love with too. So it didn't bother me. I
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  Speaker 1: did not have a problem with just him in his underwear.
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  Speaker 1: How about you?
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I mean, listen, is he a little,
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  Speaker 3: you know, crazy now? Yeah, he's a little not with us,
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  Speaker 3: but like he still gives a good performance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I just think other people, they're not getting it. It's
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  Speaker 3: not clocking to them that he's standing on business.
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  Speaker 1: In his boxers. And I think it was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, look, he's still with Haley. Everybody talks
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  Speaker 1: about how... She's not letting him go. And everyone talks
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  Speaker 1: about how he never, like, holds the door for her
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  Speaker 1: and how she'd be chasing him down the street on
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  Speaker 1: a skateboard while he ran away. And, like, all these
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  Speaker 1: funny videos and everything. But they do have a child together.
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  Speaker 1: They have been married a long time. The... Who was
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  Speaker 1: he with before Selena Gomez? That whole thing has come
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  Speaker 1: and gone. Like, they're still strong. I mean, I do
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  Speaker 1: believe he is, you know, very... Still very into his
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  Speaker 1: religion and God and faith and Jesus. And so... I
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  Speaker 1: think that really is what drives him to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: stay in this relationship. He knows it's the most important
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  Speaker 1: role is to be a father, I believe, and a husband.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think it's, I thought it was great.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what he felt like wearing. And that, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's it. And he's talented. He doesn't need to wear,
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  Speaker 1: you know. He doesn't need to wear anything. No, which
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  Speaker 1: he didn't. And the body's looking good. Yeah, he looks good. He's, like,
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  Speaker 1: getting older and, like, getting a cuter, older look. Mature, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So good for him. Yeah. Sabrina got in trouble because
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  Speaker 1: she brought out a live bird into her performance and
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  Speaker 1: PETA said you know you know you don't know that
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  Speaker 1: that bird wanted to.
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  Speaker 3: Work that day oh my god is PETA still around
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  Speaker 3: how are they not extinct by now what is this
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  Speaker 3: 2002 like how are they still in business.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know like I think the bird had
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  Speaker 1: a pretty fucking good time I'm sure the bird is
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  Speaker 1: fine the bird got it's probably been trained its whole
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  Speaker 1: life the bird got to be in a In a production,
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  Speaker 1: why does everyone think that, you know, it's the same
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  Speaker 1: thing when sometimes people say, okay, you shouldn't have, someone
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh my God, so-and-so had a little person
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  Speaker 1: at their Christmas party doing like a performance with like elves. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's so terrible. That's, they should have never had it. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So if that person doesn't hire the little person who
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  Speaker 1: is a performer. Yeah. Then now you're taking a job
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  Speaker 1: away from somebody that is like, this is their time.
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  Speaker 1: Just like the old man that looks like Santa makes
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  Speaker 1: all his money during Christmas time.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's like, well, there's like a controversy of like,
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  Speaker 3: don't have people play people of other, you know, racial backgrounds.
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  Speaker 3: But like they want to erase. Like I'm somebody that's
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  Speaker 3: very passionate about the little people rights. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that we need like the Snow White when they erased
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  Speaker 3: all the little people.
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  Speaker 1: I did CGI. No, I remember. I remember when we
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  Speaker 1: first heard of working at Chelsea Lately, heard that there
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  Speaker 1: was going to be the one with Johnny Depp. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The Willy Wonka. And I said, well, this is wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: So many of Chewie's friends will have work. And then
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  Speaker 1: we saw, no, they got one person who wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: a little person, made him little CGI. And then the
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  Speaker 1: next round, they did the same thing again and didn't
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  Speaker 1: use the little people.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why they don't want to use. Little
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: people are available and up for business. Peter Dinklage is
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: not going to turn away a job. No. Otherwise, what
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: are they going to do?
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Porn? That's what they were doing.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: That's what Chewie was doing. Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: a big deal, though I did have to see it
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: one day against my eyeballs wishes. Uh-oh, Blake Lively harassment. Right.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Don't show a video. True. But listen, PETA does good work.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I understand. I just don't think... having a little bird
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: in your thing. I don't think she thought she was,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sure all her dogs are rescues.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Or if they're not, she says they are. I bet
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: everybody on there, nobody thought, hey, wait a minute. Maybe
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: we shouldn't have a bird in this act. Like, I
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: just don't think anyone thought. I don't see the harm
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: in the bird. I don't either, but I'm just saying.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I'm sure the bird was very well taken care of.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Do you think she's mad at her staff right now
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: with this? No.
• 17:03
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• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: what would you do if it was given back?
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: home dad. What happens next? When I came in, he
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: started crying.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: happens next.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara, I'm
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: not going to pull punches. You can use your voice
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: even if it's shaped.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Lady Gaga stuck with her look of, you know, looking scary.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: But she won, so good for her. And she had
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: a great performance. I will never, ever agree with making
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: your eyebrows blonde slash invisible. I will never be down
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: for this look. I don't care if someone wants to
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: say it's high fashion. Especially when you still, even after
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: a nose job, have a prominent nose. We need eyebrows
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: to balance it out.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: So I think she's super talented. I think she... is pretty,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I just hate that look. I do too. This girl,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: oh my God, the best. Oh yeah, Olivia Deen. Olivia Deen.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I've been hearing this song. I did not know that
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: she was this young. I didn't either. It's the first
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: time I've really seen her. She's 26, so she's not so,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: but it's that mature voice that when you first hear,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you imagine a certain look of a singer and she
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: looks like she could be, you know, trying to join
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: a sorority tomorrow. And she is so cute. And so
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: that was nice. Our girl from Summer House, Sierra Miller,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: she brought the side titty out. She looks incredible. She thought,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: look at this side titty. And then who walks behind
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: her was full frontal titty chaperone. So it's hard. It's
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: going to be risque. The angels up in the sky.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: So we had to hear that song again. And he
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: actually went up in the sky and it made me nervous.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Just like when I had to watch that guy climb
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: the tallest mountain. Oh, he's tied in though. What do
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you mean? He doesn't have like a little stool holding him.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I think I'm sure there's I'm sure there's lots of things,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: but it still gave me anxiety watching that because it
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: reminded me of the guy that climbed the Netflix Taiwanese.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Highest thing. I know. Now people are connecting him to
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the fake moon landing. What? Tell me that.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Well, because he was trying to call, but his AirPods
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: didn't have service. So people are like, how is it
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: that we don't have AirPods to get this dude on
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: this building, but.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Yet we're calling the moon? Oh, well, of course. That's
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: always been the thing of like, why don't... I believe
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: we did not go to the moon. We did not
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: go to the moon. I fully believe we did not
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: go to the moon. And I think, I don't know
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: if I ever tell you, but the first time I
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: ever even heard that theory was I was writing for
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Keenan Everwaynes on this late night talk show. It was
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: approximately 1997. And he brought it up. And the minute
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: he said why, which was about the flag waving. Yeah.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: And that it was in a studio. And he brought
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: up things right away. Like, who took the photo? Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Who filmed us as we're leaving? Who did we leave
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: on the moon?
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: And calling the president.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, my God. And then I never...
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I would say it to people and they'd go, you're
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: fucking crazy. And then of course, you know, TikTok comes
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: along and everybody puts it all together. And, um, but
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I thought you were, when you first said, I thought
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you're saying that somehow he really didn't climb the thing.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no. He definitely did.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Every time I come, I'm going to bring you a
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: new conspiracy theory. Cause last time was Helen Keller.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Helen Keller. And I'm still into the Helen Keller one.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: It's great. And I'm seeing more and more about it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: We're exposing her. She was a fraud.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: It was really Ann Sullivan that I think was the
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: lady that was teaching her. I said, like, if Ann
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Sullivan were around today, she would be running a Somali daycare.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Just to catch you guys up, because we do need
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to just talk about this for one minute. So I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: came across Zach talking about it. And now a lot
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of people have talked about it. And it is kind
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: of funny because it's so ridiculous because we all heard
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: about Helen Keller. We all had to study it in
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: fourth grade about how she was amazing. deaf and it's
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: wrong to say deaf and blind meaning that she dumb
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: meaning that she couldn't speak and she was blind and
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: she was deaf and she couldn't speak because she couldn't
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: see people's mouths move and because she was deaf and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: so then this woman comes in and she's wild and
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: everything and they she teaches her so are they was
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: essentially ann sullivan the one who created sign language or
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: did sign language exist before helene keller how is she.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Gonna do sign language she can't see So the way
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: that they taught her how to communicate is she would
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: touch your mouth and your throat. And then from there,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: she would hear your vocal cords and then see your
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: mouth move. But I don't know how she knew what
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: words were because like she can't hear words and she
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: can't see words. So I don't know how feeling it
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: then determined because that was the whole thing is she
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: taught her how to touch you. And then that's how
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: she was able to.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Read your words. I guess my question would be to
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the people that want to do it. Has there been
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: other people born since... That were both born deaf and
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: blind and were able to use the tools of Ann
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Sullivan to— To fly a plane. I think the plane
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: part isn't totally— was that really in our books? Yes. It's
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: in history.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: If you Google it, did Helen Keller fly a plane,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: it will tell you she flew a plane for 20 minutes.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Anyway, we clearly she flew it better than Amelia Earhart.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Can this please be the next doc? Because I don't
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: need to see a doc about how people made cassette
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: mixtapes for their loved ones. In 1989. Like there's two
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't need to be seven parts. I just
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: watched this other thing that this guy goes, the amount
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: of drone shots in documentaries today to milk it out
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: into three episodes, which could just be one is unbelievable.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: And also just, you know, too many stories I already know.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Like I need a new story. And this one I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: would like.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: This one I would like to really go through it
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: and have someone– I hope someone is truly investigating this
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: whole thing and making a documentary about Helen Keller. We
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: need– I'm here. I will be seated. Okay. So let's
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: talk about a little bit. They're saying on page six,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's popularity rating dropped even before the release of
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: her controversial text messages. Fill us in. Fill us in
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: on all of this. Your opinions. Where are we now
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: with that? You are the expert. Yeah.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: So we we finally have gotten all the evidence. It's
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: been released on the docket. Blake Lively has been filing
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: to keep everything under seal because she's a victim and
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: she doesn't want private details out there. Now it's all
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: out there. And like she doesn't, in my opinion, she
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: still doesn't have a strong case. Like her argument is
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: that he he nuzzled her neck when they were dancing
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: in a scene together one time, but she didn't give
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: him consent to nuzzle her neck. Or he had his hand.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: On her upper on her back.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: And then he lowered it a little bit and she
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: didn't give him consent to do that either. And even
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: the judge was kind of annoyed. Well, he's like, well,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: is every improvised scene now going to need a jury
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: to determine, you know, is it appropriate or is it
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: considered harassment? So all the evidence has come out, including
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: all the text messages with Taylor Swift, all the Sony
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: executives who are all talking about what a nightmare she was.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: They call her a terrorist. They say that she's hijacking
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: the film. They say that she's the one that caused
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: all of the backlash that she's claiming was the smear campaign.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: They say that she was epic level stupid, literally their words,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: when she's promoting her haircare line and her alcohol line.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: She even named one of the cocktails. During this filming,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: during the promotion. Promotion.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: So you have all the Sony executives that are talking
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: about that. You also have the Sony executives that are
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: putting pressure on Baldoni and his team to make the
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: movie sexier because it's an R-rated movie. So they need
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: more hot sexiness. And Blake Lively, their text messages to
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: her own team talking about how, yeah, the marketing needs
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: to be sexy. So when you have her using these
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: words and the Sony executive using these words and it's like, well,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: then how is Justin Baldoni saying her outfit being sexy
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: is harassment? So now it's in the judge's hand. He
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: has to determine what what parts of her case will
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: now move forward to trial in May, if any. So
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Baldoni's defamation case got thrown out because the judge determined that.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: her allegations weren't qualified as defamation because they're in a
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: legal filing. And if it's in a legal filing, you
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: have litigation protection. You can't be sued for defamation. So
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: whether she's telling the truth or lying, she still can't
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: be sued for defamation because it's protected.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: It's a form of protected speech. So if she had just,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: just for the people and for everybody clarification. So if
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: she had just done an interview and told the story,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Of like, hey, it was really fucking weird. These five
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: things happen, and I felt like, you know, da-da-da. Then
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: he could have come after her for defamation because he
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: could say, this isn't true. I didn't do this. That's
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: how I'm a herd lost. But because she filed the
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: legal lawsuit against... His production company first. Then the article
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: was written about it. And so therefore the New York
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Times was safe because they were just writing an article
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: about something that's already in a lawsuit. Correct. Because otherwise,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: if this wasn't, if this was allowed, then anybody that
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: brings any kind of claims of. sexual assault or fills
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: out a rape report or whatever, could then be sued
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: for defamation by their accuser. So that is why it's
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: like that. Correct. And it wasn't a lawsuit.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: It was just a complaint that she filed in California,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: which gives you additional Me Too protections. California has a
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: special protection to make sure that you can't be sued
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: specifically for making allegations of sexual harassment. So she had
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: the litigation privilege and she had the Me Too protections.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: So let me ask you, since you've really said it,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: What do you think in like the timeline happened where,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and then she got, she consulted someone to go, look,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you got to get at least one complaint out there.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Then we're going to call the New York Times to
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: write about it. Then how do you think it happened from,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: from when the show finished filming to To we, we,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: it premiered, people went to go see it. It even,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: it even came out on streamer before all this stuff
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: came out. What do you think the order of events
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: was and why? So I think she clearly didn't like Baldoni.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Now, did he harass her or not is really unclear
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: because there's nothing really in any of her text messages
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: or email, like nobody's talking about harassment. until she starts
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: filing stuff, which is late after the film had already premiered.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: And it does seem like Taylor Swift had a big involvement. Well,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: I guess you can determine whether or not you think
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Taylor Swift had a really big involvement. So it seems
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: like Justin Baldoni's former publicist, who he fired, her name
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: is Stephanie Jones, she's representing him. He thinks she's getting
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: a little crazy and erratic. He fires her and leaves.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: She seems to get upset. and then somehow goes on
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: this crusade to give all of these text messages to
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Blake Lively to say, hey, they were plotting a smear
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: campaign against you. So she seems to be the catalyst
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: that convinced Blake that this was actually going on, which
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: I understand Blake's perspective of being like, hey, this publicist
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: who was representing him at the time is saying that
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: there was a smear campaign against me, why would she
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: not believe that information?
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: And I will say, during that time, there were a
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: lot of videos and things coming out of people saying
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: that she was a bitch or she's difficult. or there
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: was one, one particular one that was like a hair
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and makeup guy that, um, was doing like a podcast
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And he said, how wonderful, um, Catherine is.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Cate Blanchett was to him as his, he was her
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: regular person and told this whole story about how Cate
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Blanchett did this wonderful stuff for him. And they were
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: best friends on set. And then when he worked for
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Blake Lively, you know, she didn't look him in the
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: eye or she didn't ask him about his daughter or whatever.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: And I remember I like was seeing lots of these things.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: So when the initial thing came out, I did go, Yeah,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I think this is suspect. I think it's weird that
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: all this stuff came out when I wasn't thinking she
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: was a bitch when the movie first came out.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, I've heard she's a bitch for a long time.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I knew people that worked for years prior to this.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Right, so I could see why she was like, okay,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: now this all makes sense. My nemesis, this person that
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't go along with, Is actually behind it.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I understand why she believed that at first.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: But then when you really look at the chain of events,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: a lot of the speculation from the premiere was because
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: they weren't doing any press together.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: They weren't on the carpet together. And she was posing
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: with all of the cast and he was by himself.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: which I think made people start to dig into was there.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Any tension on set. Right, right. I remember that, yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: And then there was that speculation. And then it was
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: the little bump video where the reporter was sitting down
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: with Blake and she's like, congrats on your little bump.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: And she's like, congrats on your little bump. That then
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: went viral. Which was also- And then everybody.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Started jumping in. Which was also from many years back.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: So one could maybe argue, was there a team that
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: was putting this out there and maybe giving it to
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: people to then put out on the internet, which is
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: why then she subpoenaed lots of creators and whatnot because
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: she was like, did you just come up with this
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: stuff on your own or was someone DMing and giving
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: it to you? Like what Lisa Barlow gets accused of
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: from the women in Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Is she feeding it? Did Katie of the O.C., make
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: friends with all these influencers and not influencers, content creators
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: in the Bravo world to get other stories about the
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: cast member and herself out there inadvertently. Just be like,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: let me drop this. People say Lisa Vanderpump used to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: do that where she would say, bring the magazine brandy
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: of Mauricio. The craziest story of him with a transvestite.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying throw it in your bag.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Pull it out when you're by the pool at Palm Springs.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: You know, like that type of stuff. Right.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: OK, so continue. So the timeline gets a little murky.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: So we have the premiere in August and it appears
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: that's around the same time that she then gets access
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: to these text messages. Then it seems come October, there's
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: a dinner with Ronan Farrow. Obviously, he's the one that
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: did the big Harvey Weinstein expose with Rose McGowan. And
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: I always said the second The New York Times article dropped,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I was like, this feels like them trying to replicate
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Rose McGowan with Harvey Weinstein. But it doesn't make sense
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: because nobody knows who Justin Baldoni is. Weinstein had power
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: in Hollywood and was able to take advantage of a
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: young Rose McGowan.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: And so many others. Right.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: And so I was like, it kind of feels like
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: they're trying to replicate that. But the power dynamics are
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: off here. And so there was a dinner that happened
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: in October. Taylor Swift is seems to be the one
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: that kind of led Blake or like connected people with the, uh,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: the New York times to set this all up, because
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: then we see from the metadata that's been revealed, the
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: media that was uploaded that was used in the article
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: was uploaded to the New York times server in October.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: So it seems like the New York times and Blake
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: were in communication in October, putting this all together. She
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: doesn't make her legal filing until December. And then, then
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: it gets published in the New York times. So, and
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Taylor Swift in their text messages. She even says, I
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: think this bitch knows something is coming. He's starting to
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: pull out his tiny violin, which was when he came
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: out and got his award and was opening up about
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: being assaulted by a former partner in the past. And
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: so that's when they were like, oh, well, he's... Wait,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Justin said he... Was assaulted, yes.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: By a man.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: By a woman, his ex-girlfriend. He says that there was
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: some incident where she took advantage. I guess he was younger.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: This was like a long time ago. But he says
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: an ex-partner, an ex-girlfriend... took advantage of him and he
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: opened up about.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: That assault story. Wait, hold on. Yeah, and that's where
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift says the little violin. Okay. Is he saying
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: that he was asleep and the girlfriend came home horny
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: after a girl's night and hopped on top of him
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and he just wanted to sleep? I don't know the specifics.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Or it's that he grabbed her phone and her fingernail
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: scratched his face, which is what a lot of guys
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: then say. Oh, I was assaulted by my. Well, no,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: he said sexually assaulted. So sexually assaulted and by a woman.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty annoying. I mean, I will say that. Like,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: come on.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Listen, I don't know the details of it. I don't know,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: you know, it was my understanding it's when he got
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: that award.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: You know the only time I really think someone was
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: like such a... Did you ever see the movie Single
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: White Female? I know of it. Okay, in Single White Female,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Jason Leigh gets obsessed with Bridget Fonda and their roommates.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: And Bridget Fonda has this boyfriend named... And then she
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: gets back together with them and Jennifer Jason Leigh doesn't
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: like that because then they're going to move in together
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and she's going to be out of this like fabulous apartment.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: So she gets real weird and she goes, she changes
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: her hair to look like Jennifer, so they, Bridget, so
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: they both have this red hair. And she wears her
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: clothes and she uses this key and he shows up
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: because he's like, I just flew in. I'm back at
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: my apartment. And she comes in and takes off her jacket.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: She's naked with a pair of heels and she starts
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: blowing him. Yeah. And he wakes up and he sees
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the iconic red short hair that he thinks is Bridget Fonda.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: And then she looks up and it's not. And he's like,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: And then, but it was too late. Yeah. And so
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: he ejaculated. And then she's like, I can't wait to
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: tell your girlfriend. Yeah. That you in my mouth. Yeah.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: And so that I would say is an assault.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: So maybe it was something like that. I don't know.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know what wig she was wearing. I don't
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: know the details of it, but I know he had
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: opened up about it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I think the only way you can assault a guy
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: as a woman, in my opinion, if, and you are
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Both of adult age, okay? Yeah. And there's no power thing.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Is if they are asleep.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: And you... Or you drug them. I guess. Yeah. You
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: slip something in his drink. You do a Bill Cosby.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I just heard this other story about this guy who
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: was very, he recovered, but he had like, they thought
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: he was going to die. And he was like in
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: a coma, but he could hear people talking. And his
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: wife at the time was like, I need to jerk
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: him off because I want to have a sperm so
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: that I can have his baby after he dies. And
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the nurses were like, I don't think we can, I
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: don't think we can allow you to do that. Like
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you can't sign off his thing. And she just convinced him.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: She's like, I'm the wife. Get out. And then also
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: there were people that were like, well, that could have
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: like killed him too. Like, I don't think you should
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: be like, and he's like comatose, but he can hear everything.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: And he knows she's like, and other people are like around. Okay.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: So those things could happen. They are very rare. Okay,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: so continue. Okay, so yeah, he opens up about that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: And he made it in like a TED speech? I
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: think it was like he was getting, he was honored
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: and he was getting like an award. And then. Yeah, okay.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: So he gets his award. I think he opens up
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: about that story. And then that's where we see the
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: text messages of Taylor calling him a bitch and saying
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: he's playing his little violin.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Now you're like really putting it all together like a
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: play because I, it is confusing and I think it's confusing.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: So this is good.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: And when you put the pieces in the timeline and
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: add context to them, like it does make you know,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: more sense other than someone like a Nick Viall who
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: reads a headline and thinks, you know, Blake's running, she's
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: ruling the world. So that happens, and then, and that's
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: in early December, so right before the New York Times
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: article is coming out. And so it seems like they've
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: been working on this piece for a couple of months
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: before she files any legal complaint, before, like, it's just,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: it's all super shady.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: And did this article come out December of 24? The
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: end of December of 24, yeah. Okay, so this is
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: really only going on a year. Seems like something's going
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: on for 10. Okay, go on. Yeah, a little over
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, okay, cool.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Feels like 10, I know, it's never ending. And so
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: then the New York Times article drops. And then at
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: that point, she still not filed a lawsuit against him.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: She only filed a complaint in California. And then that's
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: when he decided to sue the New York Times for defamation.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: And that's when she responded by suing him formally with
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: her lawsuit.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: So right now we're just waiting for the judge to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: tell us if this is going to happen in March
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: of 26. May. Oh, May of 26. It's been pushed
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: to May of 26.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: So I believe they have settlement hearings this month in
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: February to discuss potential settlements. And then the judge will
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: make a determination probably in March whether or not she
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: has enough to move forward or whether it should be
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: in the hands of the jury. And so if it
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: moves forward, it's happening in May. I think her best
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: case scenario is the judge dismisses it because I think
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: if she goes before a jury, she's going to get obliterated.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: So now, do you think she's even slightly praying for that?
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I think she's, I think her team and her, I
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: think they, because if she... Because then they could go, well,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: we tried. We tried. The court system is against women.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Once again, a woman's voice is silenced.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: But we're going to keep fighting for women's safety in
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: the workplace. And then just take a little break and
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: then come out with something good in like two years.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: That's her best case scenario. I think if it goes
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: to trial, she's ruined. She's back on the stand. She's
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: not likable. Her evidence is very, very weak. Especially now
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: that we... have all of her correspondence where she's using
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: the word sexy and she's saying the movie needs to
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: be sexy and she's improvising scenes. She's saying how much
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: control she has over that.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: The kissing scene. Yeah, the kiss at the— Her kissing
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: him unprompted. At the hospital scene. Yeah, at the hospital.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: So it's like all of that, like it doesn't look
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: good for her. Yeah. Yeah. And Taylor heard she's going
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: to go into hiding. Well, I think Taylor, the best,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: the most exciting thing that happened to her is the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Epstein files. Because now everybody that was reading every one
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: of her texts and emails is like, push this aside.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I've got three million other things I need to do
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: right now. And that is just so overwhelming. Well, we
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: are going to get into the Epstein stuff in a minute.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: But.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Of course, we do have to talk about the good
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: news about Real Housewives. There is nothing that people have
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: missed more than the OGs of New York, which was
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: only highlighted when they said they're going away. Deal with it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Here's your new cast of Jenna Lyons and Brynn Whitman
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and annoying people. Yeah, all of that. And it was just,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: they weren't bad people. I don't want to say annoying people.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: They weren't bad. It just wasn't. Good. It would have
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: been okay if they didn't call it the Real Housewives
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: of New York, if they called it 2.0 NYC. Or
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Housewives of Manhattan, Girlfriends of Manhattan. Just something, yeah. They
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: didn't remember Girlfriends of Paris. It just felt so... And
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: then when people would complain about it, you know, at BravoCon,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Andy was like, you know what? You got them for
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: 13 years. Shut the fuck up. Like, I'm done with you.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: And so what happened was, um, they were approached to
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: do a show and they, so many of them live
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: in Florida. And I have said over and over again,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: since so many of them live there, which is, um,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Sonia has a place there. Ramona, Jill, Luann goes back
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: and forth. Kelly Bessamone lives down there. And yes, so
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: it's those for sure. I think Dorinda is going to
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: be coming back and forth though. She wasn't in like
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the press release per se. It's those five and it's
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: going to be them living their life in that Boca Raton,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach area or whatever adventures they go on. They
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: can go on other trips too. Yeah. But they have
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: this long history and they're doing it and they are
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: not doing it on Bravo. They are doing it on E. Now,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: here's where it gets confusing. Everyone's like, well, E is
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: part of NBC Universal Peacock. No, it's not. It recently
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: got bought by another company and it's its own thing now.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: And they are very smart to make this one of
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: their first shows. Yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: And.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: You know, it'll be interesting to see because I think
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: it's brilliant because there's one thing that everyone in Bravo
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: audience agrees with. We fight about a lot of things.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: It's not diverse enough. I don't like this city. Fire
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: this person. There is one thing that everyone agrees with.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: The OG cast of New York City is TV gold. Gold.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: They're so I mean, we fell in love with them.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: And I mean, the fact that Bravo has not even
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: owned up to the fact that that was an epic
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: level fail of them to scrap those ladies. And they
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: keep trying to shove these new women down our throats.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, look at how excited people were at BravoCon
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: when there were rumors that there was potentially going to
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: be a hybrid cast with some of the OGs and
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: some of the newbies. Like people are like, oh, well,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: at least that'll make it watchable again because they love
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: the OGs. And then Andy went on stage. He's like, no,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: there's no truth to that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Well, there was no truth to it because this was
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: already in the works and this was already going to happen. And,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: you know, I do, I'm good friends with Jill and
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I was thrilled to hear this, that this is actually
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: going to happen. I don't feel like she's ever gotten
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: like the respect she deserves from that network as her friend. And, um,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And she went and she reached out, you know, and
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: got it to go and made it. And I think
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: it'll be really cool. And when I say the audience,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: wherever people are going to be able to watch E,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: whether it's YouTube TV or on other streamers or whatever
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: that aren't Peacock, those fans will subscribe to them because
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: they're not going to miss out on this. And that
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: is where it's brilliant. And I'm kind of excited to
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: see what will happen with, e-network in the future like
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: it's always been like on its last leg and when
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: when Chelsea left it it was this really negative thing
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and I was like why are we singing goodbye to
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: e like I might want to work on this show
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: again on this network again never I they never call
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: me for anything else after that associated me with that
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: how rude it was of such a rude goodbye and
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: you know who knows if anyone's even left there from
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: whenever but this is great like he is about entertainment
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: these women are entertaining I mean, listen, this is going
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: to bring E! back to life.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I think after Chelsea and then the Kardashians, like, they've
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: been trying to find a way back.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Like, what is their new thing? And it should be
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the best Hollywood nostalgia entertainment fun.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: It should be fun and juicy. They should stay away
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: from dark shit. It should be, yeah. They should be
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: doing more, like, let's bring favorite shows back with the
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: original cast.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Don't recast it like Vanderpump. Oh, my God. Another total flop.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: That hasn't worked at all. I literally have turned it
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: on when I've wanted to go to sleep.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Like the fact that they keep trying to convince us
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: that it was like the breakout show on Bravo of
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: the whole year.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I was just like, nobody's watching.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: And now every time I see this cast doing an interview,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: they look so stupid. Like one of them, the one
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: with the long hair. I don't even know their names.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Where he's just like, oh, you know, Sheena, when she
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: used to come into Sur, she was so rude. And,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: you know, that's when they were famous and now we're
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: famous and we're on the show. And I'm just like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: to the five people that watch your show, like, who
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: are you famous to? Like, the ego of this new cast.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: that just walked in thinking that like they're the shit
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: now is wild.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: And then I think these little sound bites of like, oh,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: who's Katie Maloney? And just being like rude and like
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: things like, I don't know if they're doing it because
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: they are like, okay, we got to get some sound bites.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: We got to get some clout, whatever. You know, it's
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: always so interesting. Like I just saw, I just saw
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: an interview with Will Arnett on someone's podcast and he
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: was saying, oh, we had this female comedian on That
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: was up and coming and she didn't want us to
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: air the episode because she was up and coming and
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: didn't want it on there. And we're like, okay. And
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: that clip goes viral because everyone's like, who is it?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: And they're all guessing who's the bitchy up and coming comedian.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I almost feel like, are people just doing
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: that now to get clips? Like, should I just say, oh, Zach.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Can I tell you about the rudest person that I
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: ever had come on Juicy Scoop? You know what? I'll
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: tell you after we're done recording. And then I put
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: that clip on there and then everybody like wonders about it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: And it's just like lazy.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: I see a lot of that. And you're right, it
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: is lazy, but it also doesn't have longevity. You're viral
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: in the second for like a minute and everyone's like invested.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: And then the second there's another one of those, people
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: move on to the next story of finding things. But
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: I don't like this new cast. I don't like the way,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: like if you're trying to win over the OG Vanderpump fans,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: then the last thing you want to do is, take
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: offense to the OG, like attack the OG cast. Like, listen,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: I was not the biggest fan of Katie Maloney on
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: the show, but even I know like Katie Maloney is
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: a founding father of Vanderpump Rules. Like you respect her,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: especially when she was the person that, you know, gave
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: you this platform to essentially with that entire cast deserves
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: that credit. They gave you guys this platform to be
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: on this flop of a reboot.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's do some predictions. I think, I think that
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Lisa Vanderpump was probably like, I don't want to give up, sir.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: But like, come on. It's like so hard in California
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: without these rules and the taxes and the rent. And
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I think she was like, all right, if you want it, Alex,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: if you want to do one more go at it
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: to revive the restaurant. OK, fine. You know, and then
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: if this doesn't work, I think then which it won't.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: She probably will. This is my prediction. Give up that restaurant.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Continue with her, all her, her successful stuff in Vegas.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: And I think there is a Wolf in Scottsdale. No,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: it's in Nevada, but it's in Lake Tahoe.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Well, so, and then if she still wants to do
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: a reality show around it to bring eyes on it,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: make it be that cast. Have them be aspire, have
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: each person be that. be doing this job as the
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: cocktail waitress at whatever the spot is in Paris or whatever.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: And then they have one be aspiring singer, one being
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: aspiring Cirque du Soleil person, one being like burlesque dancer,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: one being aspiring like hospitality person that like wants to
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: run the city, but is a waiter right now. And
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: they're all friends. And we see a whole nother, because
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: what was cool about Vanderpump in the very beginning is
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: they were real aspiring actors.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: And that doesn't really exist like the way it did
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: 20 years ago. So it's like, but something else like
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: that could exist in Vegas.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Yes, because everybody in LA, nobody wants to be like
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: an actor or a singer anymore. They want to be
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Instagram famous. They want to build a personal brand. They
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: want to be on Vanderpump Rules. Like they want an
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: opportunity like that, that it's not believable that they're all
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: struggling actors, you know, and they're all too curated. I
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: feel like it's so hard to even make good reality
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: TV now because you have that's what's wrong with the
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: the new Roni cast is that like all of these
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: women are so hyper aware and mindful of their personal
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: brand and how they want to be perceived and seen.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: And that's what made the OG Vanderpump and the OG
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: New York casts so good is they didn't care.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: No glam squad. No glam squad. Ramona's shitting on the floor.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Luann's falling into the bushes.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: You know, she's not fighting for them to not release
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: the footage from her arrest.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Like she's owning it. And even if they come back
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: and they do have the glam squads, they're still going
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: to be who they are. They're still going to be
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: real women. They're too old to change in the best
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: possible way.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: And really excited. Okay. So now the Epstein files, this
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: is so crazy. There are so many elements of it.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: There's so many things that are popping up. You don't
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: know what necessarily is totally real. The way I understand
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: it is this is like, this is made available to
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: everybody and There's emails, and then there's also just, we
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: got a call about this weird thing, and then the
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: FBI will just put it in the file.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Which then those things, we don't know if they were
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: ever seen as valid, if they ever found the person
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: that made the call. Their determination.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: With each tip, there is a conclusion, and most of
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: those conclusions, they don't find anything, or they find the
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: source to be uncredible, or there was no follow-up from
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: that source. And a lot of that information is also like,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Any random person can hit up the FBI tip line
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: and send in a tip and they can look into
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: it and or, you know, find something or not. But,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't think the tip line hits are
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: all that incriminating.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds to me that kind of what
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: we thought that some of the most powerful billionaires from
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Bill Gates to Prince Andrew to Elon Musk. To Deepak Chopra.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: This is the latest one I saw. Have emails to
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: and from Jeffrey. Yeah. Complimenting him, wanting to be invited
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: to the next party. You know, this latest one from
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the New York Post shows that he may have had
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: a secret child. Because there's an email from Sarah Ferguson,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: who was married to Prince Andrew, saying, I'm really hurt
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: that like we're not hanging out anymore now that Prince
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Andrew and I are like divorced. But I did hear
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: you had a baby and congrats. And so a baby boy. Oh, wow.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: And we know that he was, like, obsessed with, like,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: at one point he wanted to have, like, 20 babies
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: at the same time. Like, that guy actually has done. Yeah.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: There's people doing that, like, in China and Russia and
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: stuff with surrogacy. And when he had that New Mexico place, like, there's,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, then, you know, there's disturbing stuff about presidents. And,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's. I don't know. I don't know what's
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: going to happen with all of this. It's over. But
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: the only person that's happy is Taylor Swift, you know,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: is Taylor Swift because her text messages about little tiny
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: violin has nobody cares. No one cares about that anymore.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: She's just like, oh, whoo. And I did hear that
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: her sister-in-law to be was was doing an interview and.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: when's the wedding? And, you know, she was dancing around it.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: So I do think a wedding's coming soon.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the next time we see, we'll get
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: photos from a wedding. And the next time we like
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: really see her, she's either going to be pregnant or
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: have a baby in her hands. And that's the only
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: way the public's going to forgive her.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Or be married. Yeah. A surprise wedding.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: But I mean, the Epstein, I feel like so many
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: people wanted to get so many of these files and
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: they wanted to look at it. I mean, and yeah,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of like, like Harvey Levin's named it
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: and Jay-Z's named it.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: And like how in... incriminating it is for any of them.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Are any charges going to be brought
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: forth against any of them? I doubt it.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: I feel like at this point all the investigations have
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: happened and nothing has materialized with any of these people.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: And then sometimes the headline is Whitney from Southern Charm
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: is in the Epstein files and all it was was
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: in email where someone is saying, oh, I met this
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: guy who is a producer of a reality TV show
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: and I told him about the Russian models that should
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: maybe be in a show. Yeah. And then he's probably like, well,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: how the fuck? Like, I'm not writing anybody. I'm not
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: on the island.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I'm nearly. But it's a name.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: That then someone can make a headline out of. And then.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Well, because these guys are not living on a secret island. Like, yes,
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: there's the island, but like they're in these socialite circles.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: They're interacting with people famous and partially famous and on
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: reality TV and in politics like. They're interacting with these
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: people all the time. The same way if like anyone
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: went through any of our phones or emails, you'll find
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: all sorts of names. But does that make them complicit
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: in anything.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Or even aware of anything?
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Like so many people, you know, are shocked. Like Harvey Levin,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: I'm sure, was like, I did not know my name
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: was going to be brought up in this.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: And, you know, it's just... I mean, the Bill and
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Melinda Gates thing. That one with the STI and the antibiotics.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: So for that, that one is, you know, they got
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: divorced and she has said... In interviews, there's one that's
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: going around from a couple of years ago with Gayle King,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: where she said, yes, his relationship, his friendship with Jeffrey
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Epstein is wasn't the only thing that was wrong with
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: their marriage, but it was like the final straw. And
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: I did meet Epstein once and he disgusted me. Just
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: walking into the room, I just had like, she just, whatever,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: the sense, the vibe of evilness. And so now there's
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: an email.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Want to explain what you saw?
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, where it basically references that Bill Gates needed some
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: antibiotics to give to his wife because of an STI
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: that he had contracted potentially from one of the Russian
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: girls that- he had access to via Epstein.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I had a model on my show from Juicy Crimes
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: a couple months ago. And, you know, it was pretty
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: explosive of what she said. And what she referenced was
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: models that were Eastern European- that would come and be
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: told they're going to have this modeling life. And then
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: they're put in a situation, either living at the Epstein
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: townhome or being at these parties, they get like addicted
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: to this lifestyle and maybe even some drugs or whatever.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: In what she was saying, you know, many of them
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: were not under 18, but obviously trafficked and forced. And
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: now they're not citizens. Yeah. And they don't have their passport.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: So it's like they are now stuck in this situation
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: where they do have to— comply yeah with something that
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: you know and um and then there's a promise of
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: a modeling gig or this or that or everybody else
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: is doing it and you're like and then oh maybe
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: you're embarrassed to go back home if you could go
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: back home yeah it's it's a lot it's it's a
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: variety of but these billionaires we know they you know
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: probably have always frequented um situations where they could have
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: um paid sex or whatever. And then it's where it
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: comes if the kids are involved.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: I think people are so hungry to find names that
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: we know and we don't realize it's the money and
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: names that we're not familiar with that are really the
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: ones that are doing some crazy shit. And that's why
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: you see people that have real big wealth, they're not
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: going on reality shows. A lot of those people want
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: to stay in the shadows and want to remain unknown.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: And so while there may be more incriminating details about
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: those people, we don't know who those people.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Are or care enough.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: And that's why you know, the headlines are coming out
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: about all these other celebrities. But like, I mean, celebrities
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: rubbing elbows with people in New York is not all
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: that incriminating.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, taking a photo with Harvey Weinstein at the
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Golden Globes does not mean that you co-signed on him
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: being a complete predator.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Or also that you were even aware, like think of
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: how many people are young and up and coming in
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Hollywood and they're just told this is a powerful person
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: in Hollywood. And You know, you just happened to be
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: there when Getty Images is taking photos and like, you
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: don't know all the details.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Right. But this is the details of who had years
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: and years of correspondence with him. It's one thing to
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: have one like, and then, you know, but then it called,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I want to go to the party. Could take me
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: to the wildest party at Epstein's Island. Let me, you know,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: or to your Island. I want to be invited. Um,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: that was the Elon one. I heard that Elon was like,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go to the science one. Cause
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: remember he was also thought of himself as a scientist,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: even though he never even graduated from college Epstein, but
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: was teaching math at an all girl, um, or a
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: private school in which then one of those parents was like,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: that dad was like, you're such a brilliant math teacher
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: to my daughter. Why don't I make you the head
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: of this hedge fund or whatever? And now we see that,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: of course, it was what we always thought was that
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of this was blackmailing to be like, you
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: better give me $ 2 million or what went down last
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: weekend is going to be known.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: And that's how he's getting all this money. And then
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: with the Wexler, was his name Wexler? Yeah. The fashion guy,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: which I think brings in the models. And I mean,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I think there was a variety of women and I'm
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: sure boys too that were abused and trafficked and everything.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: And some were obviously children and some were not. And,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: you know, it's, but it seems like as far as
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: solid stuff, the only thing we really have is the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: woman saying what happened to her and now she's passed.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: With Prince Andrew.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Like who else is like really.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: That's the worst one that I feel like I've seen.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, aside from like the Gates STI email, which
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: he's come out and, and declined that that's, he says
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: that that's not real. Um, that that never happened. Um,
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: but aside from the, the Prince Andrew stuff, like that's
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: probably the biggest, most prominent name that we have like
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: solid pieces of the puzzle against.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he's yeah.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, didn't he get dethroned or they stripped
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: him of his title or whatever?
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he does not have the duties or anything. Him
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: and Meghan Markle. Right. And then, you know, back then
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you know, maybe this is why
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Meghan and Harry wanted to get the fuck out of there.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: But I don't think that's the case. No. But still,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: not good.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, there's just so much. There's, again, I'm
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: just kind of like, Okay, so who else... Does anybody
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: get arrested or we just get to read it all?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: I think we just get it because the investigations are
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: done at this point. Right, there is nothing. Ghislaine's been
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: put away. Epstein's dead. I feel like now we're just
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: getting access to all the information that the government had
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: access to.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: And I guess even if Ghislaine tried to say or said, look,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I'll give you some scenarios that happened with these prominent
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: people maybe that still isn't enough. Like as far as
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: like evidence and stuff, or if somebody said, my friend was,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: you know, essayed by this prominent person 20 years ago. Okay. Well,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: where is your friend? Is, is that person willing to talk?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Do they have evidence where, but they were 13 and
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: they were on drugs when it happened and now they're
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: still on drugs. Like, so then they were like, well,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: you're not a credible person and we're not going to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: pursue this whole thing. And go after this really powerful
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: person that's also going to have millions and millions of
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: dollars worth of lawyers to fight it.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: And so I guess they just, we can just do
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: with it how we want. Yeah. I just feel like
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: this is, I feel like in two weeks, we're going
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: to be talking about something completely.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: If that, I feel like by the end of this week,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: we're going to be over this story.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like all the headlines have come out.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: Like there's not anything new that we're really going to
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: get aside from this name was mentioned in a random email.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I don't think any charges are going to
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: be brought as a result of it. Well, Kim Kardashian
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: is all over the news. She's actually filming right down
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the street from us. And so Drake wants to see
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: if Lewis Hamilton might be on set. He's a fan
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: of his. He's an F1 driver. And so the first thing...
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: So Drake sees this and he's like, oh my God,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: what's going on? This is my son Drake, not the singer.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: And he goes... you know, when you're a race car driver,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: you can't be that tall. Doesn't she like really tall guys?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: And so we started looking up everybody's height that she's dated.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: And I go, well, first of all, she's not tall. No,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: she's tiny. She's probably honestly barefoot. 5'4. Max.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Well, because Courtney's 4'9? No, Courtney's like 5'1, or something,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: but who even knows? And you know what? You do
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: start to shrink when you're over 40, even slightly. So
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: who knows? But Kanye's only five. He's five nine. The
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: F1 driver, Lewis Hamilton. He's absolutely gorgeous. He's very gorgeous.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: He is also English. So you have an English accent
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: and sparkly eyes with some curled lashes. Chocolate mocha, like
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: like a caramel, like a mocha latte deliciousness. And successful
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: in his own right in a field that she knows
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: nothing about, which is also nice. How tall is Kanye?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Kanye was 5'7. Really? Or 5'8.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: 5'7, 5'8.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: That's my height. No, no. He was 5'8. He was 5'8.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: And Ray J was 5'7. Oh, so she doesn't like really...
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: And then now Chris Humphries was 6'9. That's crazy. And
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Pete Davidson was 6'3. Okay. So the girl doesn't have
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: a type. No. She only likes them tall when they're white.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: She really doesn't... She really doesn't have a type, but
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: they look good together. They do look really good. I mean,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: here's the thing.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: If he's even a little tall, like four inches taller,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: like that's enough to not be like, you know, she
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: can wear heels like it's the perfect size for them.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: But he's wearing a turtleneck. And Drake also told me
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: that race car drivers actually have to have thicker necks.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: They have to like work out their neck because it's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: so like. With all the moving. But his neck looks perfect. Yeah.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I like it. I like it a lot. They're a
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: hot couple. So Kanye West's apology was, according to this magazine,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: it was a staff meeting and it led to a
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: staff meeting, a seven-figure record deal, the whole apology. Wow.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Of saying the anti-Semitic remarks, the. Slavery was a choice.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: All of that. He was in Mexico this weekend performing
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: to a huge like stadium arena kind of situation. And
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: he brought North out, who again is only 12. She
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: had a long blue wig to her like calf. And
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: she was going to sing her, I'm your bestie, Miss Westy.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: It's your bestie, Miss, Miss Westy.
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  Speaker 2: I love that part.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: And she came out and he goes, hold on, hold on.
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  Speaker 1: She's got the wrong version. And she was lip syncing,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: but it was the wrong version that she was lip
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: syncing to. She's 12. You know, what do you want?
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: You know, but like. What is the wrong version? There's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: only five words. I don't know. But like, you know,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: and then someone's like, oh my God, you know, Blue
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Ivy would never, Blue Ivy dances around and, you know,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Beyonce's not. You know, it's like Kim also said she
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: is homeschooled.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I can see probably she was like, this
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: is bullshit. Why am I in school? I don't need
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: to learn this stuff. So she, you know, Kim has
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: all these teachers come in and she learns how to
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: build her own brand. She's doing music. She does this.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: She does that. I don't know. It's kind of interesting.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: You know, she has a different life. There's no way
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: she can really. I think it's kind of sad that
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: she's not in school anymore. I mean, but maybe she
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to, but like, I, I think if my
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: child was, I know going to be famous the rest
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: of their life and do this thing, I would want
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: them to be personally, but you know, everyone's life's different
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: in a regular school environment to just to have that experience.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: I thought that that was kind of a priority for
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: them too, was making sure the kids had as normal
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: of an upbringing as possible.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever you talk to like, adults that were child actors
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: yeah they always are sad that they couldn't go back
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: to their regular school yeah essentially they're working all the
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: time too they're on this hulu show they're doing these
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: other things like it's kind of a bummer that but
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: you know that's she's an old soul i don't know.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah i mean well i'm sure i'm sure she's gonna
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: pursue music as she gets older Yeah. But she seems
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: driven and ambitious to want to be in it. Whereas
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: a lot of the other kids, like a Jeanette McCurdy
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: was like, my mom made me do this.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Like, it's a little different. Yeah, it does seem like
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: it's like her own thing. And maybe that's why Kim
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: is just like, yeah, she's, you know, really her own person. And,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: you know, so it's all good. So Karen Huger, who
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: had got out of prison for her fourth DUI, second crash,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: she got a new nose, right?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know how all these ladies keep getting plastic
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: surgery in prison, but.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I think she got it right after she came out
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: of prison. Has it been that long? She didn't get
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: it in prison.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Like, Teresa Giudice came out with, like, a facelift. Right
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: when she came back? No.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: When she walked into the house to see her kids
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: for the first time, she was like a whole new person.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: But you know what? She had a fresh blowout. But
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like maybe sometimes if you've been away for
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: a year and.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: You're just like working out.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: You're just like, yeah, you're working out and you're just
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: like not drinking for a year. That can give your
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: face like a lift. That's true. I mean, so she probably,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously wasn't drinking for a year, but it
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: was like, she always had a very distinct kind of long,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: a very attractive longer nose. And so I'm not, I'm
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: not shocked. She finally went for it. And it's like,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: why do people want to get plastic surgery out of prison?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Cause I think you want something to look forward to. Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I remember Heidi Fleiss from the famed Madam. She got
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: a full facelift and, you know, lips done and everything
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: the moment she came out. And I'm like, yeah. Like,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: you just want something. You want a fresh start. It's
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: a fresh start, yeah. You want your face when you
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: were drinking, getting DUIs and going to prison. And then
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: you want your post-prison face.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: Pretty face yeah it's it's smart i mean she got
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: her it looks like fresh filler like she looks good
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: she looks good why not you know i did watch
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: a bit of her interview and she was really good
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: about how like andy's like some people say that you
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: shouldn't come back to the show like some fans don't
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: think you deserve it and she's like so she did
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: a one-on-one with andy yeah okay um and he was
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: like what are on what's what happens separate okay.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: He went to the home to her home and filmed
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: it there. Okay.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: And I thought that she did a really good job
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: of saying, I don't deserve a second chance. Like, a
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: second chance is earned. I have to prove to you
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: guys that I'm deserving of any chances.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: She's like.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: I'm just grateful for everything that Bravo gave me before.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: And she obviously, you know, acknowledges that she didn't appreciate
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: it enough. She says that she's an alcoholic. She's going
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: to work on that. But like she's like, I have
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: no expectations of coming back to the show. Like I don't,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: you know. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, I mean, more of
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: like I guess she meant it more in the sense
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: of like she's not expecting them to just give her
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: a rollback on the show. She's like, I have to
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: work on myself and I, you know, I don't expect
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: to be given a second chance, but I hope that
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: I can earn, you know, everyone's forgiveness and respect again.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: She's like, but I have to do the work in
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: order to prove that, which I thought was good. Like
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: she really took accountability.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: You know, and they follow her and everything. Now, what
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about, before we get into this latest thing
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: that you did about Catholic School Kids. So you went
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: on tour last summer and you made your own documentary
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: of the experience. And that's coming out soon. And I
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: kind of want to ask you, you went on tour
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: with your show. So it was like a live Zach
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: No Filter podcast show. And what made you think to...
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: do this? And how did you do it? How did
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: you get like a crew to follow you around and
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: kind of watch this moment? And what made you decide,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: you know what, I want to document this?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Well, there's always so many fun behind, I mean, as
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: you know, when you do shows, like when you're hanging
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: out with everybody backstage, like there's so, I always like
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: to have other creators on stage with me in each
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: of the different cities. I just, I'd like to share
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: the stage with other people. And I just think it's
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: more fun for the audience members to see multiple favorite
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: creators that, you know, maybe they see collaborate on each
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: other's shows, but like, don't always get to see together
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: in person. And so I was like, there are so
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: many crazy wild things I've done two other tours prior.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: And I was like, it'll just be fun. If we
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: film these experiences, I was like, listen, I told, I
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: had my, my production guy, Marco, who's been working with
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: me for the last. Almost 10 years, maybe like eight
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: years now. And I was like, are you willing to
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: come on the road with us and just film everything?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: I go, we'll see if we use any of it
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: or not at the end, at the end, like we
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: could scrap it. It could be totally boring. Um, but like,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: let's just invest in filming everything. Maybe we'll make some
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: fun social media clips. Like we'll see.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: And he came and we filmed at every single city.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: And luckily as we were there, the second we landed
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: at the first show in Dallas is when Blake Lively
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: served the subpoenas on all the creators. And so there
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: were multiple creators that were in different cities that we
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: were going to that were all getting subpoenaed along the way.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: So we got to film all of the behind the
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: scenes of that subpoena drama as everybody's getting served, as
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: we're trying to figure out, are these real? Is this
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: her trying to shut down the conversation? And then people
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: going and fighting that in court and trying to file
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: motions to quash.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: And so that whole.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: drama with Lake Lively was unfolding all throughout that summer
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: as we were on tour and filming everything. So it
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: just was serendipitous that we happened to have cameras rolling.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: And so, yeah, you get to see a lot of
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: like the fun interactions. You see the legal drama. You
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: see the creator drama that unfolds along the way as well.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: So we filmed everything and it's it's fun.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: It's exciting. I'm excited to release it now. That is great.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: And then also I, you know, I loved this because
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: I came across you just kind of like going off
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: on your videos and stuff about only Catholic kids will understand.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: And people who went to Catholic school, the first one
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: that caught my eye was the CCD kids. Yes. Now,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: what made you just think to talk about this? So,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: it was because I had some, oh, the Rosetta Stone.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the Rosetta. All I know about Rosetta
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Stone is it's an app to help you learn the language.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: That was my understanding, too. And then somebody, one of
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: my neighbors I went to lunch with, and they were
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: talking about wanting to learn another language.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, Rosetta Stone. And they're like, no,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: now it's Duolingo. And I was like, oh, okay. I
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: was like, and.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: someone else at the table was like, like the stone.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: And I was like, what do you mean the stone?
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: And they're like, yeah, in school I learned about the
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Rosetta Stone. I was like, I just know it as
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: the app, the language app. And then I looked it
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: up and I was like, oh, there's like a whole
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: stone that has like different hieroglyphic languages to like translate things.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: And that's where the Rosetta Stone app or program came from.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: And I didn't know that. So I talked to, I
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: went on Instagram. I was like, did I didn't, I
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: feel stupid. I didn't know about the Rosetta Stone. And
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: then I was so many people were like, what an idiot.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: You're so dumb. And I was like, I didn't know
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: what this was. I was like, I went to Catholic school.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Like we learned more about I know about the tomb
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: that Jesus came out of. I know about so many
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: things about Jesus. And I started referencing things. And I
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: was like, listen, in school, like we didn't we weren't
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: taught those things. And then that's when other people in
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: the comments started talking about like, Oh, yeah, I remember
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: Stations of the Cross, Ash Wednesday. And then and I
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: forgot how CCD kids came. I think it was like
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: it was this comment. It was oh, it was like
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: one of the comments where somebody was talking about it.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: And they were like, yeah, and the CCD kids would
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: always steal our pencils. And I was like, that's right.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I go, we don't know. Or I said, that's what
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: we know.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: Is that CCD kids, they were just like the bad kids.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: So when you're in the Catholic school, you get the
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: religion stuff. as part it was a whole separate grade
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: yeah so you learn about everything while you're in school
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: but if you're not going to private catholic school and
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: you're going to the elementary school nearby the church would
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: say we will do a program where your kids can
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: come and learn like once a week yeah about it
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: at the school where did you grow up again i
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: grew up in east la okay so you were like
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: saying that they said, what were the teachers saying and
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: stuff about tonight the CCD kids were coming to the class.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: It was so normal at the time, but they were like, okay,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: so we're going to make sure you turn your desks
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: around so they can't open them. They had lockers that
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: our teachers would lock up all of our stuff because
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: the reality was we would go to school and then
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: the CCD.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Kids would come at night. And I described them as
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: like the children of the corn.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: We didn't see them. We didn't know anything about that.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: We just knew that when we came to school the
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: next morning, they terrorized the classroom. Their names would be
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: tagged on our desk. They would break our pencils. They
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: would rearrange our markers. They would steal stuff from our desks.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: And so we never knew who these kids were, but
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: our teachers just taught us that they were bad kids
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: that came at night and like came to also learn about,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: you know, Jesus. And we're like, it just, it didn't
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: make sense to us. And I was like, They were.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Really just like, again, the children of the corn.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: And so I feel like we were raised and you
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: probably remember it like it was like the Catholic school
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: kids versus the CCD kids, the catechism kids. And like
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: they were beefing, but we never really knew what the
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: beef was.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Also, it was like this whole thing, like like almost
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: like you should first of all, you should pray for
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: the public school kids that don't do CCD. And then
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: you should feel kind of sad for the CCD kids
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: because they can't afford to go to school, Catholic school.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: So it was like, you know, like be nice about it.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I do remember all that. And it's just
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: like such funny. I've talked a lot about my Catholic
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: school education, like wrote it in my books and stuff. And,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: you know, my favorite thing was the Mary, the May procession.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: So in May, they do this thing where we do all,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: and it's always a beautiful day because it's Southern California.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: And we would do a rosary all the way around
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: the school. It ends up in the church and, And
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: as an eighth grader, someone got to be Mary and, like,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: wear the blue dress.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: And they'd be like, okay, everybody vote for who you
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: think it should be. And normally it would be the
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: girl that was popular but also leaned on the holy side. Yeah. Right? Well,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: that year I was like, listen, you guys, vote for
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: yourself because— You know, it's going to go to this person.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Like we have no chance. At least if we vote
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: for ourselves, we'll get to be like the bridesmaids. Like
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: there were a couple of girls that got to be
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: like up there and be like extra. So anyway, that
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: year the teacher was like, I've never seen it so
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: spread out. And like literally Mary got two votes. Like
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: one girl just goes, I couldn't do it. I go,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: I told you to vote for yourself. And she's like,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: I did. I'm the only one that I voted for
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Marla too. So like Marla gets it, who really was
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: very religious and into the religion. She should be, she
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: should have done it. And, but I was always like,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: God damn it. You know, and always, I know they
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: always automatically picked a brunette because we saw Mary as brunette.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: And I was like, this is, so then when my
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: son was there, they're like, yeah, well now we, we
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: do a Jesus. And I go, what? And they're like,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: they did a Jesus. And like, Jesus had to like
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: basically be shirtless. And I go, this is crazy. So
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: a 13 year old boy is also being voted on.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Like who has the best abs to like walk through
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: and act like Jesus before he's going to get nailed
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: to the cross.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: We had our, Jesus had to wash our feet. Cause
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: you know, Jesus washes the feet of the disciples. Like
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: we had to do, I was like, what in the
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: Nickelodeon is going on here? But like we had to,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: I remember we had to carry Jesus.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: We were like 11 years old.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: And I remember our teacher came up with the idea
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: to have Jesus walk on our arms.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: So some guy got to be, was he like the
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: captain of the football team?
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: He got to be Jesus. And then Sabrina was always Mary.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: But so we, I remember she had us, we were
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  Speaker 3: locked arm in arm like this. And we had to
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  Speaker 3: hold our arms out so that Jesus could walk on
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  Speaker 3: our arms like he's walking up the stairs to heaven
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  Speaker 3: or something. And I remember I was like a fat kid.
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  Speaker 3: I was chubby. I had no muscle tone. And I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I can't do this. Like, what is why
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  Speaker 3: are we carrying another kid on our arms?
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  Speaker 1: It was crazy. But I always say the Catholic school
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  Speaker 1: taught me that like the more.
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  Speaker 3: Shame and the more guilt like the more Jesus loved
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  Speaker 3: you so the more oppression that you felt in your
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  Speaker 3: heart like the more suffering the closer you were to.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus right oh my god it's so funny. And I
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  Speaker 1: love that you did all those videos. But now that
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  Speaker 1: you did it, I saw a whole bunch more pop in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, now a lot of people are talking about Catholic
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  Speaker 3: and CCD kids. But it's funny. I didn't know that
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  Speaker 3: that was a thing. Like, I didn't know people do
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  Speaker 3: Stations of the Christ. Like, I just thought that was
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  Speaker 3: my school. I just thought CCD was something. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know until so many people in the comments were like,
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  Speaker 3: I remember that. I remember Blessing of the Animals.
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  Speaker 1: I just thought some of those. Remember when someone would faint?
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  Speaker 1: at Friday mass because of the benediction. And then they
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  Speaker 1: would just be back in school. Like nobody, no one
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  Speaker 1: thought that was because there's always a couple of kids
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  Speaker 1: that when they did the benediction, which was not all
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: the time, but it was this weird smoky thing that happened.
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  Speaker 1: And some kids would legit faint. And then they were
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  Speaker 1: just like, she's fine. She'll be back in class. Like,
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  Speaker 1: it's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She's been dramatic. Yeah, it's, you know, up there with
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: the challenge you're blowing up, which is before your time.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: But I just, I'll, yeah, that's so crazy that, and
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: then people go, that's why we are the way we are. Anyway, Zach,
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  Speaker 1: you're always so great. Thanks for coming on. Your Instagram
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: is just plain Zach. Your TikTok is? Zach Peter. And
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  Speaker 1: your show is No Filter. And when they, which is
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: go to your, your documentary will be on your YouTube. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: February 15th, yeah. And that's just under your name, too? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Zach Peter. Okay. And so exciting, and thank you for
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: always bringing the scoop, and you're so fun. Thank you.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching. You deserve
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: a treat.
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