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Talks to Luke Molloy & Mark Rawlins about their choice of The Talons of Weng-Chiang (6/6) · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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  I'm still a little bump in my to do it quicker.
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  Welcome everybody to hamster the blunt and I don't know why I'm
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  saying it like that. I like to do my Palace Theater
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  talk, but it's just, it's gone off now.
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  Welcome to the talents of wing try and commentary.
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  We are in part 6 and I'm joined I'm Mark and I'm joined by Luke
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  from loss and a phrase say hello.
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  Hello. And Joe from camps with a blunt
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  penknife it is this which is this Yes.
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  And as I said, it's past 6:00. Mmm how we all feel about this
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  story as we so far video, which we are loving the men talk
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  about. All right, it's been marvelous.
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  Yeah, no, it's great. It is great.
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  I've not watched any me looking at you looking at the screen if
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  we entirely understandable a lot, so far out that the world
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  of the talents of when Chang that all these different
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  spin-offs and characters. Having these other like to be on
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  this story is this story got the most.
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  So I think that's the theme of this podcast like these these
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  episodes isn't it? That there's been a whole world
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  created from the town's Wang Shang.
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  It's the most inspirational Doctor.
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  Who story there's ever been. Yeah.
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  And it creates the world on screen.
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  He does. Yeah.
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  And because as we said it pulls in all those sauces, it's so
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  potent, isn't it? It's the at The series tangible.
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  You see he said in part one, rich.
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  That's why I think of its hell. Instead of the costumes are set
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  in the characters. So rich, isn't it so good now.
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  Well, that's is the climax as good as what's come before.
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  Usually, not sure. We see, let's see.
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  I beg to differ, but let's find out actually no in Hinchcliffe
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  time. I do find the episode forms of
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  often, fairly disappointing, man.
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  Dragged, her. I saw a glimpse to an end.
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  Oh, well, that's shit. It sort of Limbs to an end.
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  She's from it to Mars. It's little bit Roland.
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  Then I actually prefer absolute for parents of art.
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  Then the first three to come with us.
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  Just being contrary. Let's do 3 2, 1 go quarks star.
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  Five anymore. I think that follows ping-pongs
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  at to in it. Yeah, okay.
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  Yes, we caught me slipping box, right?
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  Okay, so episode 6 climactic ending of time that it's
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  slightly ever. So slightly Rush, doesn't it?
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  But I know six episodes. That's a hell of a statement.
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  I've got a rescue and they, where are we?
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  It's got nothing on fraud to on space.
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  What episode 6. Yeah.
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  Does he have intended? That was that sir?
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  Yeah, that's just a rock. But okay, so essentially what
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  happens here is, you get a lot of dialogue between the dr.
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  Magnus Grill talking about the crimes that he's done in the
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  future and the failed experiment and then his disfigurement and
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  all of that they have to rescue Jayco life because we love them.
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  So they need to be rescued and then there's an action set piece
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  with the dragon and mr. Sin isn't there?
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  Yeah, and that's about it. Oh well, we all go watch it.
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  Now, I've just told you. And here we are with the recap
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  and leaders inert. Get the mask off.
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  She won't a week. Nadia has just now I think
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  they've done a her like, she really sees that her, you know
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  what, right? I'm gonna taste Story Once Upon
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  a Time, okay? I was on Grindr the gay sex app
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  and I was sent a photograph across of somebody else at all
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  these very nice. I'll go meet him.
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  Anyway, I went to meet him right?
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  And what turned up with someone a bit like is grilled catfish.
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  You gotta fill the time somehow, I love that masto, mmm, if
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  someone showed up at my house in the dark, wearing that mask.
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  So who's sexier Magnus grill? Or Showers Jack.
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  Yeah, Karis Jack is very feminine.
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  It's got eyelashes and things like this, a Blobby and
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  everything title is in tight look, mr.
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  Puppy ago is in tight, whatever it is.
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  I don't want you to know how much we watch.
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  Mr. Freeman's house. At least, you're not spreading
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  mr. Blobby on the bed,
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  PVC. Isn't it fetish suit?
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  This little silver suit? Sorry, I've got into four years
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  until he's so nice. Oh, don't worry, yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, it was kind of romantic. We put that he was Regina.
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  Why I love. You are obsessed with sex and
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  he's got very large sleeves. Isn't it great?
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  That like quite because you've got grilled just shouting his
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  head off for the doctor. It's just makes it so much more
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  Charming that the doctors just smiling back the whole time.
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  I just love the detail on those costumes, I sound like you nuts
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  in it, but this amazing just that we've in the patterns on
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  Magneton is if you look at the, he's like cape and everything.
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  It's really rich. Rich, rich, rich.
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  It's a quick don't even have to go into cyberspace.
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  Do you? It's Autumn by cyberspace.
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  Did you ever hear or read that behind the sophist on season 18?
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  Hey Jane Hudson. She's like, I love the special
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  effects are nowadays. It's all done in cyberspace as
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  well with the glasses. It looks like a probe and yet,
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  he's saying, yo, it's very fragile and I'm going to break
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  it when he eventually does smashing.
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  It smashes into a million years later.
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  Sure. Odd, isn't it?
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  Oh, it missed the city's creepy. It's me the writer has to do
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  much. Just got walk out of room and
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  he's scary. I actually really like that it
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  has hair like that. Yeah, I do.
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  I such a lovely look register but the knife.
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  Look, we were talking about Lila possibly this could you know if
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  this was her last story just doing a bit more online reading
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  apparently. Philip Hinchcliffe had said to
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  her, she'd only be into the end of this season.
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  And then when growing Williams came along, he offered her to
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  stay on and then because it was a lot, Tom Baker, wasn't
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  expecting her to stay on, so that's where it was a bit.
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  A that's where he is. A great buggering.
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  Yeah, he was told that she would be written out of the end of
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  season 14, like the violence of the character.
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  I mean with Brian Williams Company has changed it.
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  So I think a lot with grown woman's coming in Changed the
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  course of a lot of things. There was every chance he could
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  have wanted to bring in his own companion as well.
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  Yeah. It's stunning.
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  Yeah. I think she made enough of an
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  impact though though. Because he wanted her to 16.
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  Didn't me the yeah, that's why. Yeah, I was so rushed at the end
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  but then apparently, when Williams said she can change
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  her, she doesn't have to wear the contact lenses.
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  She saw him to for season 15. That was part of her one of her
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  requests. Yeah, that's fair.
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  We got really touching scene between Jagger and life.
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  This is where We stopped the Movado for a second and just
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  humanizes them a little bit more.
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  I love that though. He has been all Bluster and now
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  the defenses are down because he's found somebody, you can
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  confide in This is so so good. You know, and homes is really
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  good at doing that stuff in Rebus with like Ben rode, a
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  heretic and find those moments of humanity in between all the
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  air. You know, the plot and all the
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  action. It's something that I think only
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  Russell has in the modern era, it's something only really.
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  He can manage to do is to find the moments of humanity.
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  Hmm, we found not not saying This Love on certainly when we
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  talked about that, there was just so many potent moment.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  And it's such a funny silly dark episode.
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  There's so so much in it, but he'll find them.
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  I think he calls it turn and in his, you know, in the writers
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  tail. He says it's turning a character
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  and just fired in a new like shade to Fair on them.
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  Like Jackie Tyler core. He's finds the photo and says
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  you perv. The no, let me tell you how hard
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  it is being left behind because that's what it makes you hard.
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  Yeah, we got them. I've got my lover monsters quota
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  at the. Yeah, let's get mr.
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  Stone that jug. I love the jacket.
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  So this is basically everything like say now.
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  Multiply is taking note of draw is be honest, I am not gonna
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  screw up the chest piece over. I'll come on, he's giving this a
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  bit of Willie this performance. The infamous Minister of Justice
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  that must be Anna. Now audio, I'm sure is.
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  I'm sure all of this is who plays Magnus growing that?
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  Would you describe a research base while we're talking.
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  Now, I've just noticed. Look you've got a nice scabby,
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  Magnus grill, right in front of you there an eagle.
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  More Swan and the Tom Baker hands the season 14 console.
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  Yeah I mean do you have a is your house full of toys?
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  Yeah, you want to see ya. I say it won't stop talking
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  about Doctor. Who toys can't see that?
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  Did you ever get the this is the eagle must want but they release
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  the character options. Magnus Guerrilla mr.
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  Sing together but he's some of that.
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  Got a home young got them. Yeah, they never got them.
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  They never really semester sin, Eagle Moss one.
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  You know, I'd love to have is that Dragon I'd lost after
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  jogging you little time with wit with a little mr.
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  Sin at the control of it mind you, but you could pick.
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  Go through older dogs. Who inside, love.
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  That's what Eagle Moss would do it.
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  Like it was all be. Yeah.
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  Okay, I'm really good at that. It's gone.
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  Did you see that? The red.
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  It's all out for you. We've got the place surrounded.
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  Looks like. No, no, we haven't got the place
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  surrounded, shut up. All right.
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  It is so. So funny old the doctors?
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  That's right. No like this is he's up by
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  dragging life. Assist, you know, there's two
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  wretches down in the cellars. We need to get them out there to
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  retches that's a bit mean. So you basically saying that you
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  don't think Magnus girls the greatest villain of the
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  Hinchcliffe era? No, it's not.
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  No not at all so it is not going out with his best sentence.
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  I mean, technically davros is probably the best, isn't he?
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  She would take all morbius oxy SEC.
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  All right, no. Mobius.
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  Yeah I think Mobius is got and of grandiose leftovers.
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  Hmm, bother the master. Do is good.
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  The decayed. Master is good.
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  It's gusting the bride Iggy eyes.
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  Hmm. So that's all I'm saying.
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  So he's getting the the time cabinet saw it out.
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  We've got bit of Technology here.
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  I know. But you know what, I could have
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  done a bit of a Dye looks a bit cheap done it.
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  That cabinet couple of little bit Wotan, look better than
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  that. And look, it's Alex into a big
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  fish. I would say.
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  Whoa. Ton is sort of comes back.
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  I think the thing we're learning about refinishes.
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  They just do they touch everything.
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  They touch everything. Yeah.
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  Lucas Briggs get your hands off things or I'll stop touching
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  everything. I'll see that doctors
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  unconscious. Even the plot going.
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  This lovely pair. Honestly, would you imagine?
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  I thought they would you imagine their Ventures will be like, but
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  we've got here is a fantasy.
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  Or would it be more like 70? You means more like Sherlock
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  Holmes. Yeah.
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  Sherlock Holmes, an idea. That's this in it.
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  I think it probably would have lost the aliens.
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  Do I think it? I think they might have just
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  played it. You could have done all sort of,
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  like, they do in those early years, like, vampires and things
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  like that, that kind of, Who Do Ya?
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  What do you mean speed? I would it be the kids watching
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  Doctor, but the family audience, the same sort of times or pane
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  which are the 70s, the sales, a tritone apocalyptic drama, like
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  survivors or those people. That love the idea.
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  Fear of a pandemic wiping out off the Earth.
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  Yeah most people. What's going on now?
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  All this is his line, isn't it? Talons of Wang qiang?
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  Oh no. He hasn't got the girls down
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  yet. I think that also confused me as
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  a kid was that I didn't know when Chang was and the story was
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  called talents of when changzhou you have Chang, you have Magnus
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  Grill and I think I think I was waiting for Wen Chang to turn up
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  at some point. Okay, look at Layla coming up
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  behind him now because that's what the story's called.
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  But it's a great title it does say.
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  At some point he was the great God Wing try.
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  Yeah, it does Lionel to do it but it's not it's not a big part
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  of the story that And I also think, as well as a child and
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  I'm not all that you ever in general ha.
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  Ha ha. So all the details, do you just
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  know swept along with you and she's Lila doing her best?
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  She's really this bit now where she's just like, I shall not
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  believe you just kind of - Nick how you cannot imagine.
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  Like, I don't know, Amy Pond like jumping on Prisoner Zero
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  with a knife and trying to establish, he went straight at
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  her breasts. Without Anna life?
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  No no I'm not being stupid. That would never be on
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  television now. Not for children I do but none
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  of the nice stuff was it's just become such a big issue.
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  You know any knife play at all in the new know the most of the
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  time they didn't even have that many real guns, really.
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  It's usually laser guns and stuff like that.
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  They even took out that scene. I noticed the politician or
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  someone died in that way in robot of Sherwood where someone
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  was decapitated with a sword. Yeah.
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  Which was like, yeah, it was, it was a broad, was I think it was
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  in today. There's some somehow is less
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  frightening, isn't it than a knife in your hand?
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  But like that one. That was like, the whole point
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  of the story wasn't, it was that he was a robot and so we never
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  found that out in the finished. Cool, very odd.
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  Things like Cara being stabbed in Revelation of the Daleks or
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  yeah, Paradise, Towers. Where she's Got the, the knife
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  to mail that? Yeah, that's even.
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  I think that, I think that's a bit much when I'm watching
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  Power, like so it's because it's such a bloody false, otherwise,
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  yeah, really unnerving to I think they're trying to work out
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  how to get out of this. There is willing to be sort of
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  like a gas. He's setting up a gas thing or a
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  that's right something like that they could basically block the
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  door. It's very clever eyewitnesses to
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  the girls that just just run. All right?
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  Just like staring. Like what is that?
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  I think they were over. They say, don't they?
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  In the making of This film? In this last episode, they were
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  really up. It's a good time because of all
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  the effects and the are really struggling where they were able
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  spending and tools and all of that.
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  And they went over time quite a lot and you can imagine is taken
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  ages to. Yeah, a canted, his left goes
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  right. Pam, the overtime, I'm off.
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  Yeah, the girls are friends are out there.
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  Okay, so it's time for our big action set piece.
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  Now, Lila is in danger tied up about to be sucked dry by the
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  machine. Donkey Kong.
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  Change your flash. He managed to make flesh have
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  about 18 syllable. It's restive.
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  I do not that rid effect. I hate it too.
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  I think it's it's just a it's weird.
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  Innit strange and alien and also dr.
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  With a tomahawk. If there's one thing dogs who
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  should always be is a little bit weird.
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  Yeah, because that's other conventional science fiction can
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  do all the normal stuff? Yeah which is why we've got mr.
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  Sit. Thorin lasers out of the it's a
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  heist but it's coming out of a dragon.
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  See. Yes.
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  And then you've got Jay go try to draw their attention by go
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  and I say yeah, say yeah, I see you know.
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  I'm a bit in a minute, but you know, when it is the doll and
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  eat and the doctors like snaps him over his leg, I still think
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  that is weird and that makes mr. Sin even weirder that when he
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  picks him up he's lighters fucking anything the way like
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  slams him down. Yes.
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  And he slams Grill into that thing into the, oh yeah.
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  Watch that. He had proper snapped, his neck,
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  the CD kroy's never walked the same against I see and he gets
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  that thing. Smash right near his face when
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  he's lying on the floor. All those bits of lattice, was
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  it called again? Try ionic tronic.
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  Like, this is homes. Could summon those words out of
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  nowhere? Can they it did?
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  But the sort of gobbledygook that is accepted, you you accept
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  that some of the gobbledygook inductee just that are this.
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  Today's you got homes doing it here then you got Douglas Adams
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  doing it after that and they all managed to make it very saleable
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  quotable. Then you got errors War coming
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  in and it's just tedious as hell.
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  Yeah it's fine. Tune it with them in words that
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  are just meaningless. Revita can normalizer conceptual
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  geometer. Very nice.
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  Thank you. Oh my God, he merges all the
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  henchman now. Yeah, I love this.
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  He's sadistic Nick office. But now I like the bit where
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  gril tries to go? Oh, you come out now, I'll let
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  you go. Let me go see that it goes.
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  We're staying put and you know it's not as funny as Android
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  zatara though, when Pierre Jeffrey goes, if you come out
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  now you'll be spared and the doctor goes liar.
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  Let's go. It's always got a banging
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  Cliffhanger, where do you run seeing it first?
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  The spear and knows her one that.
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  Yeah. What.
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  Comes out. Oh, that's too.
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  That's too at the correlations. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So shocked when I first saw. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Oh, this is great.
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  And then sin is it's in the kills Grill pink.
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  So that's his Achilles heel was his psychotic little puppy
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  killed everybody. Yeah, the doctor gets him in a
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  minute pushes him, doesn't he? I like that.
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  You don't know everything about mr.
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  Sittin like his motivations anything.
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  He's just a fucking. He's just a sick.
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  Fuck. Well just flips.
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  And what's interesting, you see a tiny bit of the dynamic as
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  Grill, go, swim, why don't you come down?
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  Why are you sulking up there? Because I wouldn't let you kill
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  the doctor. Yeah.
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  Right. That puts in dust.
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  Hold on him. Doesn't he just turned a eyes on
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  him now? I'm sorry.
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  There's that's why we ask the question.
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  Is this the secret experiment? A success.
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  I told you because it was a brilliant total success as
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  somebody, who knows all the quotes.
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  I didn't know that when I was reading it out, but I do want to
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  point out the time show off their egos, this /.
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  Yeah. Sorry for not be the real fun.
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  Yeah. It's all right.
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  All right, I'll put goes Rises. That is a Porsche live.
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  It he's sort of been held out as she touches her when he just
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  crumpled and that's it. Which know what I mentioned in a
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  minute is bent face. That, is that a line?
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  You can only get in Doctor, Who probably?
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  Yes. Oh, that is a great effect.
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  That is what do they say, cellular?
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  What do your claps happiest boys?
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  Do You Know, The Muffin, Man, The Muffin, Man, The Muffin,
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  right? Yeah, I do.
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  Yeah, the cameras Wang interview, break his back.
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  I think they're running out of time here and there just like
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  laminate floor, odm. So it He just ripped his fucking
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  spine up. I mean that is the equivalent,
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  isn't it? Yeah, what he's doing.
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  It's this fuse. Here we go, the try onic.
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  Lattice the sigma experiment is coming to an end.
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  Even they only had one and I just, yeah, imagine a sugar
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  glass or something? Yeah, I think so.
• 24:17
  It's not real glass that close D.
• 24:20
  Troy That's not buy you some muffins.
• 24:26
  Come on, I'll buy some basic Wicked.
• 24:29
  You know, is that I feel very queer.
• 24:31
  I would have liked to code are in life.
• 24:33
  That's house where they all sit around having a bit of T.
• 24:35
  Could you all like, like Fury from the deep?
• 24:38
  Like the end of that, that would have been nice?
• 24:40
  Are you could have got rid of that bit with the gas and trying
• 24:43
  to get out of that block prison? They didn't need to be locked
• 24:46
  up. Really there now.
• 24:47
  Let's trick. No, no, I got the girls out and
• 24:50
  I don't think it's the climax that is is Rushed.
• 24:53
  It's because we suddenly fly off again.
• 24:56
  We've had six parts like really in boot and dosing in this world
• 25:00
  and then suddenly you just off. Yeah.
• 25:03
  Soon as it's finished, yeah, it's that sort of thing.
• 25:04
  Could be that indulgent for six episodes and then and then just,
• 25:08
  yeah. Maybe even if the final scene
• 25:10
  wasn't them if we didn't see them fly off.
• 25:13
  If there's a final scene, which just in Victorian London in mind
• 25:15
  update, but then you do get this.
• 25:18
  But don't normally gone off of Android was a bit weird.
• 25:21
  I mean, it would be any less weird if she.
• 25:22
  I do a fancy Jake I'm staying here.
• 25:25
  No, it really wasn't that you could see that her staying and
• 25:27
  then she lives with Lightfoot to, he will teach her and be,
• 25:31
  yeah, you'd be like his Ward, or whatever, in our could say,
• 25:34
  easily do that. Coming to BBC in the Autumn
• 25:37
  Jayco. Light-footed Lila.
• 25:38
  Thanks to your new adventure, solving the Ripper cases.
• 25:47
  Also classic absolutely amazing. Well, chaps, we've got 10
• 25:52
  minutes to do this. We've got our okay, three
• 25:55
  reasons apiece to recommend Tans Wang Chong.
• 25:58
  Yang will start with Luke then Mark, then me Luke the world,
• 26:03
  the whole Victoria and the world.
• 26:05
  As you mentioned cherry, picking the best bits of that.
• 26:09
  You Jack the Ripper's you Sherlock, Holmes, You Phantom of
• 26:11
  the Opera. It's got such an atmosphere and
• 26:15
  a mood about it, whilst also being entertaining and funny.
• 26:21
  So it's not just Like a dark data thing.
• 26:26
  Look yeah the production values in this the filming locations,
• 26:30
  the fog the sets, the costumes or the look of this.
• 26:35
  Leave some for anything. I'm going to recommend the
• 26:43
  incredibly witty scripts. We're practically every fucking
• 26:47
  line is quotable and I've just proved that but I don't think
• 26:50
  those look. I'll say mister sin probably one
• 26:55
  of the only the one of the only monsters from classic look to
• 27:01
  that. We really sent the shearers at
• 27:03
  me and he's you know for someone that doesn't speak it.
• 27:06
  As we mentioned he's quite he feels like a proper character,
• 27:11
  like a psycho at the hands of the dragon and then also with
• 27:16
  the blood coming down his army just creepy after creep.
• 27:19
  And they they just really censorship is fear. and yeah,
• 27:23
  but the pig lovely touch Jago and Lightfoot being Robert
• 27:30
  Holmes has best double act and proving it by having all of
• 27:34
  their ongoing Adventures I'm going to say all of the
• 27:38
  Cliffhangers which I think as we pointed out on Stella in the
• 27:43
  hinge Guevara but I agree with Loop the best Cliffhanger is ha
• 27:47
  ha ha ha. All the stuff at the theater in
• 27:56
  part for the the showdown between Chang in the doctor, the
• 28:00
  magic tricks the. And then like the dogs are sort
• 28:04
  of enjoying it all the way up to the point.
• 28:06
  When Casey their Falls like the cabinet dead.
• 28:08
  And that's the point of the story flips.
• 28:10
  And we start going into madness Creole and stuff later on.
• 28:13
  So yeah. Part four is probably my
• 28:15
  favorite of of it all, but that sequence is fabulous.
• 28:21
  David Maloney. One of the best classic
• 28:23
  directors, this is his last story and he's going out on an
• 28:27
  absolute high. He understands Doctor Who so
• 28:31
  well by this point and he can just eat can just he just gets
• 28:34
  it and it's a really well directed.
• 28:38
  The only place we could possibly end this.
• 28:41
  Then is on the rats itself, the giant rat and Joe wife, two
• 28:46
  reasons, one is because no matter how good a doctor whose
• 28:50
  story is will always be reminded.
• 28:52
  This is still a doctor who story with a shitty monster turning up
• 28:56
  bar somehow the magic occurs and actually find out where leaders
• 29:01
  being sued by the rat her due to the direction and her
• 29:04
  performance, the low lighting make it work.
• 29:08
  Yeah. God knows how they make it work,
• 29:11
  even though it looks absolutely ridiculous.
• 29:15
  And so I think you need that in it.
• 29:17
  So it is up to, that's Finn needs to look not perfect.
• 29:23
  Oh yeah, I genuinely think you doing Isis Star Wars or
• 29:26
  something like that. Yeah, no, yeah, sometimes you
• 29:29
  just need that reality bomb. That needs to be better than
• 29:33
  underworld. Oh yeah.
• 29:35
  You're so bad. That's all you need to be.
• 29:39
  There's got to be something that reminds you no matter how good
• 29:42
  it has got that stupid dinosaur. I love clams.
• 29:50
  That would have been cool, giant clams.
• 29:54
  Threesome SAS tarnishing the things he comes out.
• 29:57
  We open it. Well, that gentleman that just
• 30:01
  leaves me to say, thank you very much for spending the last four
• 30:03
  hours. Let's talk about talents of Wing
• 30:05
  Chun hyang whereabouts, okay. You and I are going to be
• 30:10
  talking doing a re-release of the Android invasion.
• 30:12
  Next Luke, what are we doing next?
• 30:15
  Hey, let's do something. I don't like what such as
• 30:21
  pyramids of Mars. No.
• 30:24
  No, I really like this. This like that.
• 30:34
  Maybe what Capaldi's haven't been done?
• 30:38
  I would Lowe's you could basically choose any I think
• 30:45
  we'll definitely come back with something.
• 30:47
  How about just poor people by? Okay,
• 31:00
  you're not wrong. My favorite recording
• 31:04
  experiences was are rings of akhaten had so much fun with
• 31:07
  that. It's about that.
• 31:10
  We're almost coming up to a year since the junk and lover
• 31:12
  monsters recording. And I feel like the drunken
• 31:17
  version should be released. What could I do?
• 31:25
  The funny thing about that is you go back to the party saying
• 31:27
  I killed. It is absolutely amazing.
• 31:29
  And I know, I really did guys. Thank you very much.
• 31:34
  It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much.
• 31:37
  Yeah, it's me Billy.