Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Alastair Bunkall: Sky News European Correspondent on Germany's far-right party AfD winning the state election in Saxony-Anhalt
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Let's go to Germany. Victory for Germany's far right. This
- 0:03Speaker 1: is just one state. This is just an election, but
- 0:07Speaker 1: it's quite significant for a number of reasons, and I'm
- 0:09Speaker 1: about to tell you why. First of all, let's go there.
- 0:14Speaker 2: We have achieved exactly what we wanted. We have written history.
- 0:18Speaker 2: People gave a clear political signal in this state. We
- 0:21Speaker 2: need a fundamentally different political approach, putting our own interests,
- 0:26Speaker 2: our own country first.
- 0:27Speaker 1: So the far-right AFD has won 44% of the vote
- 0:31Speaker 1: in this area. Alistair Bunkle, Sky News Europe correspondent. Well, Alistair,
- 0:35Speaker 1: good morning.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Good morning, Ryan.
- 0:37Speaker 1: So they still need friends, don't they, to actually have
- 0:40Speaker 1: a majority?
- 0:42Speaker 3: Probably. I think there is the chance they could try
- 0:46Speaker 3: and govern as a minority, but even then they would
- 0:49Speaker 3: probably need an agreement with a party to make sure
- 0:53Speaker 3: that anything they wanted to pass through the state parliament
- 0:54Speaker 3: got them over the line. So yeah, you're right. I
- 0:56Speaker 3: think they probably do need to hook up with somebody.
- 0:59Speaker 3: There is a favourite candidate in that respect, and it's
- 1:03Speaker 3: a party called BSV, and they are far left, which
- 1:08Speaker 3: sounds probably like a total contradiction, the far right teaming
- 1:13Speaker 3: up with the far left. But actually... It's that kind
- 1:16Speaker 3: of anomaly of politics. The further right you go and
- 1:19Speaker 3: the further left you go, you actually start to join
- 1:21Speaker 3: up in the middle at some point. And they share
- 1:23Speaker 3: quite a lot of the same ideals and beliefs. So
- 1:27Speaker 3: it's possibly that could be the scenario.
- 1:29Speaker 1: This is quite probably more than they were hoping they
- 1:32Speaker 1: would get. This is the AFD. Is this a shot
- 1:35Speaker 1: across the bell to Mertz?
- 1:38Speaker 3: I'm sure they were hoping they would get a total majority,
- 1:41Speaker 3: but they were polling at around 42%. They ended up
- 1:44Speaker 3: getting 44%. Yeah, look, I mean, this is a very
- 1:47Speaker 3: good night for the AFD. And if you're an AFD supporter,
- 1:50Speaker 3: and clearly in this particular state where I'm now in Berlin,
- 1:54Speaker 3: but I was there over the last couple of days,
- 1:56Speaker 3: and I spent time over the last few weeks, clearly
- 1:58Speaker 3: they've got a lot of support there. You know, as
- 2:01Speaker 3: a state in East Germany... You know, I mean, if
- 2:04Speaker 3: you're going to pick one state that might vote right
- 2:07Speaker 3: wing and the AFD, then it probably would be this
- 2:09Speaker 3: one state. But if you look at the national picture,
- 2:13Speaker 3: they're not doing too badly either on the national picture. So, yeah,
- 2:16Speaker 3: it is. I mean, yeah, it's a wake up for
- 2:20Speaker 3: the Chancellor Friedrich Merz. And, you know, he said today
- 2:22Speaker 3: in a press conference that he was shocked by the result.
- 2:24Speaker 3: You know, I think a lot of Germans would say
- 2:27Speaker 3: that really he should have woken up to it like
- 2:29Speaker 3: years ago. And he shouldn't be so shocked by it.
- 2:33Speaker 3: I mean, the polls have been showing for a long
- 2:34Speaker 3: time that the AFD were going to do well. And
- 2:36Speaker 3: you just test the mood on the streets. And it
- 2:38Speaker 3: was pretty clear that people are fed up with mainstream politics.
- 2:42Speaker 1: What exactly are they fed up with? Excuse me. You know,
- 2:45Speaker 1: people have been saying this is the furthest right we've
- 2:48Speaker 1: been since the Nazis. But it's not the Nazi party, right?
- 2:52Speaker 1: What exactly do they want?
- 2:56Speaker 3: Well, I mean, different people have different grievances, and a
- 2:58Speaker 3: lot of the grievances they have are similar to what
- 3:00Speaker 3: you hear around other parts of the world. It's the
- 3:03Speaker 3: state of the economy, it's the state of the unemployment figures,
- 3:07Speaker 3: it is cost of living, for example. A lot of
- 3:10Speaker 3: these factors are driven by external events, like tariffs levied
- 3:14Speaker 3: by Donald Trump, like the war in Iran at the moment,
- 3:18Speaker 3: and the war in Ukraine, which has helped drive up
- 3:21Speaker 3: energy prices. So You could argue some of these are
- 3:24Speaker 3: slightly beyond the control of any one government. But there
- 3:27Speaker 3: is a problem with migration in Germany, at least as
- 3:30Speaker 3: perceived by Germans. I suppose the main figure that they
- 3:34Speaker 3: would point you at is when Angela Merkel, the previous chancellor,
- 3:38Speaker 3: allowed about a million Syrians during the crisis there to
- 3:42Speaker 3: come into Germany. And a lot of people, rightly or wrongly,
- 3:47Speaker 3: feel that if life is not that good in Germany
- 3:50Speaker 3: for native Germans, then why should money be spent on outsiders,
- 3:56Speaker 3: on foreigners coming in? Like it or not, that is
- 3:59Speaker 3: a pretty strongly held feeling here. And the fact is
- 4:05Speaker 3: that the traditional parties have failed to grasp it and
- 4:08Speaker 3: deal with it. And so a lot of people are
- 4:10Speaker 3: turning to AFD because like a lot of fringe parties
- 4:13Speaker 3: and right-wing parties, they promise a lot. It's another question
- 4:17Speaker 3: as to whether or not they can deliver.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Alistair, great analysis. Thank you very much for being with us.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Alistair Bunkle, a Sky News Europe correspondent.